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65435059 No.65435059 [Reply] [Original]

Would Phase Connect hire her back?
seriously how did she fuck up so badly?

>> No.65435174

The CEO literally unpersoned her. She's never coming back.

>> No.65435174,1 [INTERNAL] 

Seeing as most Vtubers don't hate her and even Phase Friends are friendly to her... I have to wonder what she actually did that pissed Sakana off so much.

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>>65435059
No. Whomever was giving her advice back then was writing the wrong answers on the wall for her.

>> No.65435237

>>65435059
You know how Riro Ron menheramaxxed, and got terminated and thrown under the bus by Idol for that?
The difference is, Phase Connect didn't throw Yuri under the bus.

>> No.65435345

>>65435059
How many times do we have to tell you?
She fucked them over. Assumed immediately that Phase was going to be as bad as her old company and started screwing with them. They came to a nice agreement to let her go without any nasty exchange of words. If you truly liked this woman, you'd just watch her content and stop dredging this PL up. It's a major embarrassment to her really. Is this a weird sort of anti, OP?

>> No.65435475

>>65435059
Her new model sucked ass.

>> No.65435536

>>65435059
I find it VERY bothersome that she was best friends with Uruka, Lia and Airi. Went on vacation with them and stayed at some of their homes. Made them friendship bracelets. Even said "they are the irl friends I never had. Phase is my family."
Then she unpersoned them all.... BUT still follows and dick rides Pippa.

is it because the 3 of them fucked her over? Is it because of clout and she thinks Pippa can save her career as an indie?

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>>65435536
>is it because the 3 of them fucked her over?
lia, uruka and airi are 3 of the most beloved easy going people in phase connect. if the 3 of them are your enemy, then you're the asshole.
also she made an immediate enemy of tenma.
it's almost entirely because of chasing pippa clout. whatever she has to do what she has to do. she has to wake up everyday coping that she got kicked off the plane right before it started taking off to paradise.

>> No.65435823

>>65435059
Maybe

>> No.65435993

I don't care if she rejoins Phase but I just want her old Cyberlive Live2D (and scuffed 3D) models back.

>> No.65436056

new hot rats itt

>> No.65436177

>>65435536
On multiple occasions Lia has alluded that Yuri betrayed her on a personal level

>> No.65436303

>>65435059
>Would Phase Connect hire her back?
not if fish has anything to say
hes majority holder, so no way anybody else makes a pull

>seriously how did she fuck up so badly?
no idea, no clue what she did
despite rumors, pc shills meltdowns, and her own retarded vague posting there seems to be not one reason for her termination anybody knows of

>> No.65436802

>>65435059
maybe if she pays back with interest

>> No.65436942

Traitor whore

>> No.65437029

Yuri is Fredo. She betrayed the family and stole from it.

>> No.65437087

>>65435782
>lia, uruka and airi are 3 of the most beloved easy going people in phase connect. if the 3 of them are your enemy, then you're the asshole.
you dont know them, they arent your friends, and they can be wrong
and tenma is not a nice person, she has serious anger management problems, she goes off even on people she likes

>>65435536
those 4 cunts couldnt give a fuck about anybody they dont have to deal with anymore, they are women, and we all know how women treat "best friends"
i know 0 details about situation, but the unpersonaing disgusts me, showed than phase is another shitty corpo where friends end where money starts
better not mention yuri, so said the boss, fucking pathethic

i may be projecting but i worked with a lot of women over the years in a creative field, and i have never seen such vindictive, petty and backstabbing men

>> No.65437197

>>65437087
>you dont know them, they arent your friends, and they can be wrong
lol

>> No.65437268

>>65437087
Hi Nano.
I know it must be tough to watch Phase take off and you got left behind because you are a greedy thief, but that’s life.

>> No.65437298

>>65437087
Learn english nijinigger

>> No.65437309

>>65435059
what did she even do?

>> No.65437388

>>65437298
sorry, burger speak isnt my priority
>>65437268
>greedy thief
this is what im talking about, some random insane accusations with 0 backing
humor me you fag, what did she steal?

>> No.65437446

>>65435059
qrd?

>> No.65437490

>>65437309
she got terminated
and since im corporation worshipping leftsist, then the person fired must be at fault
my favorite corporation (vshojo, niji, phase, holo, idol) would never be wrong
and my favorite corporation is better than you favorite corporation

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>>65435059
You know for board known to take the side of the chuuba over the company, a large majority of anons sure like to assume Yuri is 100% at fault, despite the real reason not being released...
Does having an IP that you were rightfully given the rights to taken away by your new employer under contract not ring any alarms?

>> No.65437611

>>65437309
She came into Phase Connect with full ownership of her name, character, and Live2D and 3D models.
Phase Connect fired her and took all of those from her. So I guess her crime was getting bamboozled by a corpo and trusting in someone that she shouldn't have.

>> No.65437659

>>65437490
i'm asking what she did to get terminated retard

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>>65437659
The reason has never been actually said. The closest to an explanation is that she violated her contract in a way that apparently had to result in her losing everything.

>> No.65437861

>>65437659
reason to believe she was taking donors from under that table without giving phase its cut. fruitfarms had damning evidence that her supas went to her personal PayPal while all the others in the company went to their corporate email. they all likely do it, she was just lazy and got caught.

>> No.65437920

>>65437587
>Does having an IP that you were rightfully given the rights to taken away by your new employer under contract not ring any alarms?
it does to me, but what you expect from parasocial retarded kids?
sorry, but if im splitting with a "friend" im letting them have their shit even if contract wise i cant steal it, i mean why the fuck would i fuck them over?
there is this deep rooted vindictiveness and pure corporate evil behind the decision to steal her IP that i cant imagine would be justified no matter what she did

i see a red flag, and bunch of stupid young women for who this is often their first job at that corporation shitting under themselves not to support the terminated talent

we seen this a milion times at niji, idol or who ever the fuck, those girls are always "family" until the hammer falls, then people get memory holled in a way that would make Stalin proud

>> No.65438069

>>65437659
Rrat is she refuse the cut for the big jew from her personal donations that werent on her channel
If true i would say she was in the right, even if she makes her fan a sugar daddy her retarded boss has no right to say shit

>> No.65438084

>>65437587
/vt/ always sides with the corpo unless it‘s anycolor

>> No.65438233

>>65435059
Nano is the biggest KWAB of the year in vtubing.
Threw all her career progression away and for what? A few discord paypigs?
At least when she is older she will get to tell people she worked with Pippa, Tenma, Lumi, Lia, Shiina etc

>> No.65438267

>>65437388
>what did she steal?
My virginity

>> No.65438280

>>65437388
Mate, phase defense force is in full effect on this board, hell maybe even other boards. Shady accusations with no proof are how they haze and hide the really stupid real reason for Yuri's unpersoning.

>> No.65438376

Yuri was unpersoned because she didn't matter in the history of Phase Connect. Her claim to fame was being in collabs as a passenger while Pippa and Lumi carried her.

>> No.65438492

>>65437659
The first few posts of the thread already explained everything, Yuri basically did a Riro. Broke contract, stole money illegally from the company. The only difference is that her menhera-ness was slightly justified because she thought phase was going to be as shady as her previous company. But it didn't mean she could just do what she wanted and break contract obligations. Phase just chose the best option to cut off both ends so that neither side wins and no lawsuits were enforced.

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65438534

>smol corpo is incredibly shady behind the scenes
>Still the only example to date of someone joining them with their own IP and losing that after being fired
No surprise here, even the corpo my oshi is from has done some incredibly shady shit recently. Starting to think purely watching indies might be the way to go from now on...

>> No.65438645

>>65438534
>only example
anon your vrev reps

>> No.65438710

>>65438534
Why do people have trouble understanding that she signed over the Yuri character when she joined?

>> No.65438806

>>65438710
And that, in return, Phase bought her a new $7k dream model that she helped over design

>> No.65438890

https://jp.phase-connect.com/
She's still on their jp site btw

>> No.65438891

>>65438492
>Broke contract,
How? examples you fag
>stole money illegally from the company
how would she do that? did she have the access to fish bank account?
if the shitty rumors are true, then its contract grey area, does phase have any right to anything she makes off channel? i have no idea why would they
even if she had some groomer discord where she sold her pussy pics for 5$ or what ever the retarded slander take is this day, i have no fucking clue how phase would be owned a cut from this

still, i dont care, what i do care about is how taking her ip seemed like a legitimate step over an argument over a revenue split, fucking wage negotiation is shit that happens in every company on regural basis, how could this lead to a complete meltdown by fish that he took her ip?
how can anybody defend this clown shit, its peak shitty corpo behavior, no diffrent front any other shitty vtuber gig you can get

>> No.65438985

>>65438534
All corpos are profit driven anon. In any job in the world, employees are just a cog in a machine. Furthermore, the corpo your oshi is in is run by jews, who are the mastermind behind everything related to consumerism in the world.

>> No.65438992

>>65438891
Very much on the right track here, phase sponsored hazing has done a number on Yuri's reputation, and yet there isn't any proof for any of their accusations.

>> No.65439023

>>65438891
You're acting like Phase accessed her PC and hit ctrl+X on her model, put it on a thumbdrive then left, and not that she signed a contract agreeing to let them have it and then broke said contract.

>> No.65439094

>i dont care BUT im gonna write paragraphs
nano come get your discord warrrior. we know its tough watching phase climb mount everest without you, but from time to time we are gonna have a laugh at you for making one of the dumbest decisions in vtubing

>> No.65439120

>phaseantis are retarded children who don‘t understand contracts
Color me surprised

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>>65438890
still has lumi's old model, too

>> No.65439266

>>65439120
>It's ok to raid other generals and threads to shit on other corps but when MINE fucks up its prepubescent antis ;(
Having the ability to sign over your IP in a contract in the first place is black corpo levels of fucked. Doesn't matter if she did it, it's still a shady practice to have as a company. Especially since Yuri was just barely 18 at the time and a kid.

>> No.65439291

>>65439094
If she really is going to be jealous of phase's incline, she should at least try streaming consistently.

>> No.65439327

You should really blackmail fish to get some kind of more interesting job than working phase defense force Xalamon. Or go blackmail the talents or whatever the hell else you do.

>> No.65439338

>>65439291
She is waiting for Kirsche to return her dms

>> No.65439376

>>65439327
can't. being lumi's cuck is a full time gig for him

>> No.65439388

>>65438534
money speaks
once there is 2 people in charge, thats 1 too many
but when its over 20 employees you can bet one talent stops being a person and becomes a company asset to be cut and fucked over at a whim
>>65439023
blame the victim, about what i expected
you have a dumb young girl who bought into the "family" speak and singned over her ip, dosnt mean your "family" has to destroy you the moment you step out of line
it was 100% Kevins decisions, he could have swallowed his pride, let her "leave" invaders without any drama, terminations and turned it in his favor by announcing invaders can leave with their ip if they want
but he didnt, he wanted to teach everybody a lesson what happens when you cross him

either way, i will for ever wait for a single phase shill to name real reason she had to be terminated, for ever i will be feed with random schizo fantasies

>> No.65439402

>>65439266
I guarantee the same thing exists in Suisei's contract. A company has to be completely retarded to hand out contracts where the contractors have ownership over the IP.

>> No.65439451

>>65439388
The real reason looks really fucking dumb and bad for Phase.

>> No.65439469

>>65437587
idiots think she didnt understand the risks when signing the contract. Multiple members and the fish himself has said that is a requirement to join invaders. No one was upset when she left and many implied she was very in the wrong. Rules, contracts, laws, exist, fuck around and find out.

>> No.65439574

>>65439469
If this is true than why has Lumi claimed on stream several times now that she still retains her IP rights?

>> No.65439582

Nano literally does nothing to try to harm Phase. Her vague tweets upon debut all included shit like "please keep supporting [phase]". Nano seems super happy now and continuing to make a lot of friends. I have reason to believe she was pleased to be terminated honestly.

>> No.65439598

>>65439574
Lumi lies.

>> No.65439632

>>65439574
It's entirely possible they got different contracts.

>> No.65439637

>>65439574
>believing Lumi
lmao

>> No.65439648

>>65439388
>blame the victim
The victim is the one who made an agreement with someone else and had the other person break that agreement.

>> No.65439652

>>65439469
>fuck around and find out.
nothing like a leftist npc phrase to really drive in how much of a fucking bootlicker you are
laws exist to protect the people, the moment they oppress you its time to start hanging politicians, but nanny state mentality now applies to corporations fucking you up the ass it seems

>> No.65439683

>>65439574
Lumi lies as easily as she breathes. We will hopefully find out one day when she leaves Phase.

>> No.65439707

>>65439574
lumi is a pathological liar
also no reason for them to have the same contracts

>> No.65439728

>>65439574
Hear me out: Lumi probably negotiated her contract and had plenty of leverage to do so. Phase wanted her for awhile, Yuri was just the package deal and signed away her IP to get in.

>> No.65439759

>>65439574
>lumi said
lmao
you never watched her, did you?

>> No.65439823

>>65439598
>>65439637
>>65439683
>>65439707
If this is the case then I'm pretty sure that puts her in a very legally gray area. No reason to lie about something that serious.

>> No.65439943

>>65435174
CEO decided not to make ad revenue off of a talent no longer with the company. CEO also refuses to talk about the termination and tarnish the girl's reputation further.

Somehow people can't understand basic ethics and think this is le bad.

Also, this is niji cope thread for the Selen suicide attempt following her suspension.

>> No.65439979

>>65439388
i bet you’re the kind of dumb overly emotional fag who feels bad for arts
majors that cant pay student loans back too. Lmfao

>> No.65439989

>>65439469
No one talks about how her termination happened after she mentioned she needed to renew her contract and wasn't currently under contract during her anniversary

>> No.65440026

>>65439943
CEO also could have just released the model back to her and moved on, like several other peer corpos have done.

>> No.65440082

Yuri was a terrible vtuber. That 2view Miia who she was grooming is now bigger than Yuri ever was

>> No.65440095

>>65439291
Lmao she never did that even at phase

Does she still tweet about being broke all the time?

>> No.65440133

>>65437587
Yuri sold her rights away for that fucking atrocious leper model. I don't really have any sympathy on that front.

>> No.65440143

>>65440026
That is what dying corpos do. Phase isn’t that. They are the most successful small EN agency to ever exist. By far.

>> No.65440164

>>65440082
>Yuri was a terrible VTuber
>Yuri gave up her spot in phase for paypigs
pick one. antis.

>> No.65440185

>>65439943
>Somehow people can't understand basic ethics and think this is le bad.

>slander a talent
>1 sided narrative
>no explanation

>good ethics

ayy lmao

goyslop consumers really out in force

>> No.65440200

Death to corpo traitors

>> No.65440217

>>65440164
Both things are true

>> No.65440233

>>65440217
One is not possible if the other is true

>> No.65440282

>>65439823
Before you quote Lumi at lest watch her once
She lies, thats her thing, is it pathological, or kayfabe, up to you to decide
But taking anything she says on face value is moronic

>> No.65440292

>>65440143
>What is Vshojo
And b4 you say "their not a small company" Vshojo has no presence in japan and is only a single digit percent of the worldwide viewerbase

>> No.65440327

>>65440233
I would say giving up your position in a rising vtuber agency for a discord paypig inheritor makes you a shitty vtuber who doesn’t have a clue.
They fact she traded her up for an expensive new model that she was immediately unhappy with also tells me she is a bad vtuber

>> No.65440352

>>65440026
Why? She signed it over, got famous as Yuri under Phase connect, then parted ways. PC isn't trashing her or anything. If you like her, subscribe to her and stop using her dead name. https://www.twitch.tv/nanobites/videos

>> No.65440353

>>65440327
The fact that you're saying a bunch of things that we literally cannot know if its true or not. stop dickriding fish

>> No.65440388

>>65440292
Who did vshojo ever create? Phase Connect has grown 4 2view nothings into 4view playbutton streamers. That has never been done.

>> No.65440393

>>65439979
>arts
for who?
i do feel bad for some student debt people, not the rich fags who wanna get a free ride, just people who were lied to by boomers and jews controlling the academia

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>>65440282
You realize what you said both makes Fishman look incompetent as a CEO and Lumi as unethical, right?
What CEO in their right mind would let their own talent admit or lie about a contract like that
And why would Lumi use the farthest possible thing from kayefabe, her fucking vtuber contract, for a skit if she's lying?

>> No.65440558

just watch nanobites and be happy for her you copium addicted fags

>> No.65440559

>>65435237
In fairness, Yuri probably didn't have a romantic relationship with her manager and presumably didn't act like a cheap ho to her fans like Riro.

>> No.65440561

>>65440388
As you misquoted, Vshojo created:
>They are the most successful small EN agency to ever exist. By far.

>> No.65440576

>>65435059
This bitch is so funny to me, everyone in Phase has been inclining recently and she's left behind to collab with that fat chick. Everyone only remembers her as the girl that left Phase

>> No.65440630

>>65440561
Phase is more successful. Vshojo relies on Holo and Niji scraps and sloppy seconds

>> No.65440701

>>65440630
I agree that yuri deserved her fate but this is pure fucking copium. Vshojo is a fucking titan right now and Phase Connect is at the very most a third their size.

>> No.65440719

>>65437587
You think Nijifags worship Riku? You should see how far up Fishman phasefags are up his ass. The talents mention him all the time too like a celebrity

>> No.65440731

>>65440561
Phase creates their own stars.
vshojo uses stars created by Nijisanji.
simple as.

>> No.65440780

>>65440630
retarded take, vshojo pulls in 10x the money with half the talents
sure, its not anycolor, but by far it makes most money and has most views of any western vtuber company

>> No.65440816

>>65440731
*created by other companies to be more accurate. do agree nobody is impressed by their practices.
phase connect creates stars. vshojo waits for other places to make the stars for them.

>> No.65440829

>>65440576
>and she's left behind to collab with that fat chick
totally not a psychotic thing to write unironically

>> No.65440865

Is anyone in phase except for pippa even that successful?

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65440895

>Digimon! Digital Monsters! Digimon are the Champions!
>Digimon! Digital Monsters! Digimon are the Champions!
>Change into Digital Champions to save the Digital World!
>Digimon! Digital Monsters! Digimon are the Champions!

>> No.65440897

>>65440780
Vshojo's aces have had their streaming personas for 5 years or more. Even vei and nyanners, who built the brand, had years of streaming experience before joining. Phase talents have only existed as themselves for under 3 years across the board. Comparing ironmouse's 6 years to a small corpo that built their talents from 0 is retarded.

>> No.65440927

>>65439388
>blame the victim, about what i expected
Anon, vtubing is part of the entertainment business. And the entertainment business is exactly that, a business. Friendships can be made, but don't ever assume that things will come with no strings attached. And dont ever assume friendships will stay that way forever the moment money comes into the picture. Whatever she did to fuck with Fishman's money, he wasn't happy, but he didn't throw her under the bus the same way NijiEN's managers do.

>> No.65440941

>>65440865
tenma?
otherwise not

>> No.65440943

>>65440865
Considering the humble beginnings that they started with, Pippa, Tenma, Lia, Lumi, Shiina

>> No.65440964

>>65440731
The most successful members of Vshojo were with the Company from the very beginning.
Also isn't this ironic to say? considering the majority of your corpo are the "sloppy seconds" of tsunderia and cyberlive?

You fags also push saving sad girls from black corpos, that is exactly what Vshojo has been doing lately retard, use common sense next time.

>> No.65440979

The only person unironically not seething about Yuri not being in Phase is Yuri herself.
The once menhera who had a breakdown on twitter all the time has been awfully happy since reincarnating.
Why don't you fags move on like everyone involved did?

>> No.65440996

>>65439388
Signing a contract and then not following it doesn't make you a victim.

>> No.65441032

>>65437587
You people who never watched her are more upset about it than she is

>> No.65441036

>>65439338
Kir already mentioned an upcoming collab with Nano and Moonshine.

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>>65440816
>>65440731
Dawg I'm all for team phase but pretending what Vshojo does is any different from phase currently is blind delusion. It's the same exact practices.

>> No.65441103

>>65440964
don't fall for it, there's no beef between vshojo and phase. This is all a response to the Selen situation.

>> No.65441138

>>65441072
Yeah all of Muyu's fans came from her pl it's so obvious

>> No.65441173

>>65440865
Compared to who? Define successful.
Compared to Holos? Nobody.
Compared to every other EN small corpo? Tenma, Lia, and Shiina

>>65441072
You’re a retard

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>>65437587
>Yuri isn't mad and has moved on
>Holofags are mad on her behalf
interesting

>> No.65441191

>>65441138
nvm I read the chain go off king

>> No.65441248

>>65441173
He's really not wrong though.
2023 Phase Connect is to Tsunderia what 2023 VShojo is to Nijisanji.

>> No.65441291

>>65441248
Except Tsunderia is dead

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>>65441173
>Corpo who rescues girls who were trapped in shitty corpo or indie situations and gives them a new audience,model, and well run corpo to be with.
This applies to both Vshojo and Phase Connect.
Just because you don't like the former doesn't change the fact that they are doing the exact same thing. Need me to break it down anymore retard?

>> No.65441317

>>65440865
i would say tenma and lia, who have silver awards and have worked with henya and pomu, have done alright for themselves. better than most.

>> No.65441353

>>65441291
and? Nijisanji's about to be dead too

>> No.65441369

>>65440352
Another thread ending post.

Too bad about all the drama-fags

>> No.65441431

>>65441298
Again: Phase Connect created 4 playbutton having 4views who were all 2 view indies or lower (Lia was a 0 view). Who has vshojo ever made? Nobody. They rely on other groups to make their stars for them.
All of Phase top talents were made and discovered by Phase. Phase originals. No such thing as a vshojo original.

>> No.65441460

>>65441431
pippa made originals :D

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>>65435782
I love this hag so much.

>> No.65441628

>>65441431
>4 playbutton having 4views
Pippa's the only consistent 4view in Phase Connect, but that's beside the point.
Phase Connect's new members are all graduated 3views that join Phase and become 3views again.
VShojo's new members are all graduated 4views that join Vshojo and become 4views again.
Your disdain for the members of Vshojo doesn't change the fact that the companies operate very similarly.

>> No.65441633

>>65441431
Lia is my oshi but pump the breaks on calling her a 4view. She can do it sometimes but not every time just watch streams and have fun this isnt that serious

>> No.65441635

>>65441431
What kind of tunnel vission insanity is this? Vshojo:
>made the careers of both the original starters like ironmouse, nyanners, veibae
>Also made Vshojo friends like the racoon and alot of other indies very successful
>Almost everyone in Vshojo, including ALL of the original lineup, have playbuttons
While they were around as 3views prior to Vshojo, to say they're careers pretty much didn't start when they joined is ignorant.

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>>65437787
At least post the correct version.

>> No.65441831

>>6544162
Cope.
The flagship players of Phase are Pipp, Tenma, Lia, Shiina were all 2view or 0view indies before Phase and they made them into players.
Again: they are Phase originals. There is no such thing a a vshojo original. I mean they really did a hell of a job finding that kson from nowhere. Super impressive scouting.

>> No.65441834

>>65441628
Except phase does use relative nobodies. I hope they do more of that. Tsuns and other corpos competent members basically are all gone. The scene needs more fresh blood

>> No.65441936

>>65441831
Why do you keep bringing up gen 1 and 2 like it has anything to do with what people are talking about?
We're talking about Phase Connect's hiring process in 2023, not their hiring process in 2021 as a brand new company with no track record.

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>>65441831
>phase originals
Lia is the onactual home grown on your entire list
Also everyone else you listed had PLs that ranged from low to even mid and sometimes high 3view. They certaintly weren't 1 or 2views.

Doesn't sound very "home grown" to me anon

>> No.65441972

>>65441831
Dont forget vshojo finding that 650k sub upstart Henya. An unknown in the game

>> No.65441993

>>65441831
>flagship players of Phase are Pipp, Tenma, Lia, Shiina
holy fuck when you see it written out like that how is this not neo-vshojo lmfao

>> No.65442003

>>65441628
>Phase Connect's new members are all graduated 3views that join Phase and become 3views again.
>VShojo's new members are all graduated 4views that join Vshojo and become 4views again.
funny and true
proves jumping corpo dosnt help

>> No.65442049

>>65441941
Tenma was a like 30ccv. You dont even know her name.

>> No.65442088

>>65441936
>we’re
No that is what youre talking about for some reason. I started this entire chain and i have never mentioned gen3 one time

>> No.65442148

>>65442088
>No you don't get it, Phase is completely different from Vshojo because of things they did 2 years ago! Just ignore the fact that the way they operate currently is the same, I don't want to talk about that!

>> No.65442164

>>65442049
She regularly had 150-200 ccv
Even more when she did collabs with OfflineTV during their special streams

>> No.65442176

>>65441936
Phase Gen 3 has 3 literal whos.

>> No.65442205

>>65442176
You personally not knowing who they used to be doesn't make them literal whos.

>> No.65442222

Why are Vshoujofags arguing in a Phasefag bait thread?

>> No.65442226

>vshojo’s flagship talents were all 4views, ex nijis, ex holos, half a million subs when they found them
>phase’s flagship talents were all 2views when they found them
almost the same. practically.

>> No.65442235

>>65442205
People found Runie's PL but there's barely anything there. Nobody has found Hina's PL. And it's widely assumed that Eimi wasn't even a streamer before her debut.

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>>65441831
I'm all for appreciating a good anya post but what does that have to do with this thread...

>> No.65442278

>>65442226
Neither of these statements are true.

>> No.65442319

>>65435345
>major embarrassment to her
And who's fault is that? Her own.

>> No.65442326

Phase has grown so much that Lumi isn't even considered a big talent for them anymore

>> No.65442351

>>65441831
>Phase fanatics are so far up their ass that the mere idea of being similar to vshojo causes them to go full defense mode
This has to be tourist bait, when I lurk /pcg/ they are usually pretty cool with my oshi's corpo.

>> No.65442360

>>65442326
No, Lumi just killed her channel by taking long breaks and streaming way too much Genshin.

>> No.65442370

Phase has grown so much that I don't even seem to hate Lumi anymore

>> No.65442386

>>65441831
vshojo fans trying to act like they were some 2view upstart is hysterical.

>> No.65442407

>>65442386
No one has suggested that. Sorry about your lack of reading comprehension skills.

>> No.65442458

>>65442326
>started the year as Phases undisputed #2
>now is maybe not even top 10?
Myabe Yuri was right for leaving.

>> No.65442464

>>65437611
>>65437309
She was skimming money off the top bypassing Sakana/the company likely via merch sales. She's always come off as all business to me and the whole vtubing thing is a grift.

>> No.65442476

>>65442464
Source: dude just trust me

>> No.65442510

>>65442464
>Yuri is all business
>immediately signed away her Twitch/Tiwtter accounts as apart of her ip
She needs to sue whomever taught her business

>> No.65442609

>>65442360
Lumi didnt kill her channel. She is still a 4view. She just could have been 2k+. This time last year her and Shondo were similar size. Oops.
Also her being a twitch 4view isnt impressive anymore when Phase has 5+ who are hitting Youtube 4view

>> No.65442655

>phase and vshojo have basically the same hiring practices these days
>vshojo‘s contract is vastly superior
Those are just facts

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>>65442609
Except she's actually not a 4view anymore because all of the Genshin streams have killed her viewership.

>> No.65442749

>>65442510
yuri was no older than 18-19 when she joined so that should tell you everything you need to hear

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>>65442609
Sorry, >>65442677 is just her average from the last week (aka the single stream she did coming back from her most recent break.)
Her average over the last 3 months is even farther from being a 4view.

>> No.65442790

Why do phasefags seem to both hate all other corpos but also half their own talents?

>> No.65442811

This thread reminded me why phase fans are the most hated on the board

>> No.65442860

>>65435059
>Would Phase Connect hire her back?
No.
>seriously how did she fuck up so badly?
She's a woman.

>> No.65442863

What Phase has built is a potemkin audience that seems to count for viewership but doesn't do anything else.
Like, for instance, why the fuck are the new Phase girls so far behind in subscriber count compared to Idol's 2nd gen, or fuck, even some of the Phase Invaders? The new Phase girls all get extremely high viewership compared to the ones that they lag behind in subscriber count to.

>> No.65442908

>>65442863
Dead subs don’t watch live streams

>> No.65442918

>>65442863
>why the fuck are the new Phase girls so far behind in subscriber count compared to Idol's 2nd gen
Because Idol gen 2 debuted 6 months ago and Phase gen 3 debuted 1 week ago. Hope this helps.

>> No.65442935

>>65442811
Only nijiniggers shit on phasefans and even they only do it to deflect from themselves.

>> No.65442954

>>65442790
Only Lumi. We hate her.

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>>65439402
>A company has to be completely retarded to hand out contracts where the contractors have ownership over the IP

>> No.65443116

>>65442863
>why don't these girls have a bunch of dead subs?
How exactly is a bad thing again?

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>>65442918
Anon, this is the shitter of Idol Gen 2 in sub count, and 6 days after debut she was ahead of every new Phase girl apart from Muu.

>> No.65443133

>>65442863
Why do you think subs matter? If anything having a better viewer/sub ratio should make them look better.

>> No.65443196

>>65443133
No, it makes their audience look fabricated if it doesn't adhere to the same norms and trends found in other VTuber agencies. Hence, Potemkin audience.

>> No.65443202

>>65443133
After you get 100k subs are meaningless (Unless you’re the super .01% who can get 1million.)

>> No.65443245

>>65443062
Reminder that 3 of the biggest VShojo members left earlier this year because there was absolutely no reason for them not to.

>> No.65443305

>>65443121
Have you forgotten the absolute fuckton of ads Idol bought and the number of streamers they paid to do watchalongs for the debuts?

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>>65443245
Oh no 3 talents willingly left on their own accord and the corpo didn't get hurt by it at all.
I wonder what other corpo also went through something like this...
You can treat vshojo as a boogeyman all you want, but they aren't any different from PC

>> No.65443393

>>65443305
Are you saying that the new Phase girls didn't have paid watchalongs and a big ad campaign as well? Because I think you know that it had both those things.
However, what Idol gen 2 did not have was girls having 2000 and 3000 viewer streams a week after their debut. So why do all those extra thousands of viewers in each additional stream not subscribe to the new girls to the point where the shitter of Idol's 2nd gen is ahead of nearly all of them in a less amount of time?

>> No.65443462

>>65443393
easy, sakana is shaken up by the competition, who may or may not have been botting viewers before so sakana said "OK might as well bot my talents' streams to make them look better"
buying bots for subs is a waste of money because youtube culls them most often

>> No.65443470

>>65443393
No point in arguing with a delusional schizo liku you

>> No.65443517

>>65443196
I have no idea what a guilty gear character has to do with this, but if I was a vtuber then I would feel way better about having fewer subs that actually watch me compared to having a bunch of subs that don't. Dead subs just mean dead viewers that you didn't retain.

>> No.65443520

>>65443393
>However, what Idol gen 2 did not have was girls having 2000 and 3000 viewer streams a week after their debut.
With the exception of that one stream where Eimi caught like 6 raids, including one from Pippa, the new phase girls don’t have that either.

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>>65443339
don't use my ponwife to shitpost you absolute scum of a human being

>> No.65443555

>>65441831
Froot and Hime were Vshojo originals. Although Hime almost never streams, she's still a 4view when she actually does.

>> No.65443571

>>65443393
Phase definitely didn't have nearly as big of an ad campaign and only had a small number of smaller streamers do watchalongs.
Idol sponsored an entire convention and paid some of the biggest vtubers on the platform to do watchalongs i.e. Filian. Either you weren't there for the ad push when Idol gen 2 debuted or you're being disingenuous.

>> No.65443669

>>65443517
>I have no idea what a guilty gear character has to do with this
Holy shit. Google Potemkin village
>>65443520
Hina had like 4k people watching her collab with Pippa.

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>>65435059
this bnuy is so much happier than yuri was

>> No.65443703

>>65443669
>her collab with Pippa
Yeah, and she gained almost 1.5k subs from it.

>> No.65443724

>it must be bots
phaseantis really are just holobronies

>> No.65443735

>>65443571
>Fillian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcWi03XxO80

>> No.65443747

>>65443678
Cute bunny. When does she stream?

>> No.65443776

>>65443571
Didn't Phase pay for a ton of ads in filian's 30k+ CCV vtuber awards show?

>> No.65443851

>>65443735
Cool now find the punkalopi, Tobs, Miori, etc. Phase watchalongs

>> No.65443871

>>65441174
It's a herd of tribalist redditors who are realized the day of the downvote is soon and they'll have to fuck off back to their own website.

>> No.65443885

>>65443678
Suuure

>> No.65443934

>>65443735
Doesn‘t count

>> No.65443957

>>65435059
literally nobody wants this stupid cunt back. she was kicked out for a reason.

>> No.65444040

>>65443871
/vt/ is 90% redditfags
Why would they ever leave?

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>>65443851
I'll close the idol discusison for now. We'll stick to within Phase, instead since it's a better comparison anyway. So, how many watchalongs and did Jelly's debut have? How big was her debut ad campaign? Because Jelly after 11 days was ahead of ALL of the new Phase girls in sub count. And her viewership was nowhere near as high. So why did people sub to Jelly but not to the new girls?

>> No.65444185

>>65442458
See >>65442360
Even just 6 months ago when she did her anniversary she was still a key member, but the company has grown so fast that girls like shiina and dizzy rocketed up to her level and are surpassing her while new girls also debutted.

>> No.65444225

>>65444040
Because redditors are only in it for the 'community' or whatever. When it's no longer the popular thing with a big community they lose confidence in their choices and find a new group to be a part of, because they have no hobbies.

>> No.65444265

>>65441174
jailbirds got cucked just a few hours ago, please understand

>> No.65444285

>>65440388
Froot. Everyone else was an established talent. But most saw huge growth under VShojo.

>> No.65444286

>>65444092
CUNNY you fucking retard, all the Cunny in phase 3 have higher sub counts too. Damn you're stupid.

>> No.65444351

>>65443724
They're from # EN where they talk about Fauna's pathetic 7k streams while # JP talks about kuzuha or pekora getting 30k on a given day. They're sweating because it was easy to ignore phase when pippa was just getting 1k but now she's getting 4-5k regularly and smaller girls like tenma will be hitting 2-3k next year.

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>>65444286
Here is Ember 6 days after her debut. Her streams averaged 400-500 peak viewers in the month of June, much less than the new Phase gen. Yet her subscriber count is higher.

>> No.65444462

how ironic she farms sympathy but her coworkers have none for her she was blinded by her own emotions

>> No.65444487

>>65444285
That’s a bit of a stretch. She already had a pretty sizable following, it just wasn't for streaming.

>> No.65444575

>>65443245
And VShojo keeps growing anyway. Silver and Vei had very little contact with the other members so it made sense for them to leave, while Nyan is more interested in fleshtubing these days.

>> No.65444760

>>65444487
Most artists don't get such big debuts or followings on Twitch. OMOCAT is far more famous and her debut was nowhere near as big as Froot's.

>> No.65444782

Yuri literally cheered on Phase at the awards and supported the gen 3 debuts and you fags still want to drag her on speculations? The only thing keeping anyone from moving on is rumor spreading retards when clearly no one at phase nor Yuri can or even want to talk about it.
>But but but but Yuri vague post!!!
yuris vague posts have always only been in defense of herself against rumors and she still would imply that she wanted phase to be supported.
Rie was getting shit on by someone in her discord once and she told them to shut the fuck up.
I don't know why none of you can just let Yuri move on. Including the fuckers who antagonize Phase about her IP.
We know nothing, but what we do know is that everyone involved clearly just wants to move on.
Why do we need to keep relentlessly bullying and baiting harassment to Yuri for something we don't have any insight on, and just continue to make shitty rumors and conspiracies about a young girl who's trying to self improve?
I fucking hate dramafags. This is why we can't enjoy anything.

>> No.65445170

>>65440576
Very female post. Which phase girl wrote this?

>> No.65445230

>Idol imploding
>Niji being Niji as usual
There's going to be a lot of fags bitching about Phase in the next couple of months

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>>65444448
Ebber is a retarded whore.

>> No.65445307

>>65444092
>So why did people sub to Jelly but not to the new girls?
Shorts, the new invaders did shorts during their first week, while gen3 has only produced one short.

>> No.65445321

>>65440780
>>65440897
Vshitshow is literally run by a guy who also helps run twitch, it's easy to be number 1 in your own court. It's like asking why things go well for the king when he's in London, let's see Prince oh sorry I mean King Charles III go to Tokyo and how much people suck his dick in another Emperor's country.

Phase is a nothing company from nowhere that magically memed itself into existence, capturing the last shards of meme magic in a bottle and keeping it like a good luck charm. That didn't even have the same ad spam as Idol.

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>ITT Phasebabies can't handle the dirty laundry being discussed again because Fishfag couldn't just come out and say what happened and let the chips fall where they may.
The day the final yab comes to Phase Cucknect will be the most hilarious shit that ever gets discussed by you faggots.

>> No.65445372

>>65444782
No. OP just wants to fap to the lelper model again. That's all.

>> No.65445440

>>65445372
Well OP's going to get it considering Nano's new model is the same artist.

>> No.65445543

>>65444782
So even though she was visciously betrayed she still cheers on her former friends?
She really is an angel

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>>65445440
She already has a new model?

>> No.65445643

>>65445612
Not yet, but her artist is working on it. Probably won't see it for a few months.

>> No.65445651

>>65445543
There was a story once about a woman who fucked her husband's best friend right before her wedding, so he kicked her out and refused to speak to her for 20 years during which time she fell in love with him for kicking her ass to the curb and sent him letters every day pleading forgiveness.

Yuri fucking everyone over and only realizing afterwards she made a mistake is merely par for the course with women.

>> No.65445702

>>65445346
You mean like when Sana graduated and said it wasn't how she wanted to go but her hand was forced? Or how all the nijis who graduated did so under extremely salty circumstances.

>> No.65445856

Please stop spreading rumors and feeding ideas of what you think might've happened. Please just let Yuri be. This is cruel and painful.

>> No.65445974

>>65435475
Just like Lumi

>> No.65446044

>>65437029
It's a corporation, not a family. Fish would start pimping as soon as it was legal.

>> No.65446090

>>65445974
Lumi rimjobs…

>> No.65446311

>>65440185
The fuck you on retard? Slander? Would you rather they drag her through the mud by providing a bulleted list of offenses down to stealing paperclips? Then what? Her and the CEO will go on Dr. Phil for a menhera-off? I guess that's what your kind considers as proper conflict resolution.

They let her off with as little fanfare as possible while maintaining that she crossed a contractual red line. Yuri could've counter-sued if she was really not at fault.

>> No.65446401

>>65442790
>>65442954
Everyone hates her.... that's the bit. But for most it isn't a bit.

>> No.65446417

>>65446311
>Yuri could've counter-sued
Unlikely, odds are phase chuubas aren‘t proper employees so firing them is hardly an issue. Plus she‘s a retarded kid and can‘t afford a lawsuit nor is she probably even willing.

>> No.65446423

>>65446311
>Yuri could've counter-sued
Loving every laugh

>> No.65446462

>>65443555
... are you serious? That's some good bait.

>> No.65446534

>>65446311
Phasefags are truly the nijiniggers of small corpos.

>> No.65446571

>>65446417
Yuri is self stated to not have been born yet for 9/11, had her high school graduation cancelled by covid, lives with her parents, has a multitude of health problems, and VTubing is probably her first real contracted job. She probably doesn't even know how to sue somebody and/or is way too intimidated to do so.

>> No.65446623

>>65446311
You're actually mentally damaged to even think a corpo of this size would consider the legal option let alone a 3view Indy streamer.

>> No.65446643

>>65435229
>Whomever
ESL retard

>> No.65446867

>>65446311
>Yuri could've counter-sued if she was really not at fault.
With what money?

>> No.65446891

>>65435059
It sucks, but fish will never re-hire her because to do so would be to admit he made a mistake and cause a shit-storm that would damage the company's rep. Doesn't matter if it was justified or who said or did what, it will never happen. Just sub nanobites on twitch and stop making these threads unless new info comes to light (which it hasn't.) We're not here to spoon-feed you.

>> No.65446983

>>65446891
Thank you!!!! It's been 8 months with no information being released. Everyone's moved on and wants peace.

>> No.65447188

>>65442655
post eimi's, hina's and runie's pl
go ahead

>> No.65447292

>>65440185
>slander
The word you're looking for is libel, though I doubt writing "multiple breaches of contract" is going to get you very far.

>> No.65447514

>>65442811
>deflection thread
>this is why phase fans are the most hated on the board
Kill yourself.

>> No.65447703

>NijiEN imploding
>idol imploding
>other small corpos imploding
>Phase is inclining
>gets shit on constantly in the catalog
Phase antis are getting this fucking pathetic huh.

>> No.65447988

>>65446983
Late response but yeah, she needs to move on instead of being shackled to her PL because that's how content creators die. Best thing for nanobites is to get on YouTube and exploit the shorts algorithm, and best thing for her fans (if they even are her fans) is to make clips and shill her as she is today, instead of dead-naming her and dredging up her past. She probably wants to move on, and knows she fucked up, and these threads will only make her feel bad and shackle her to her PL, which isn't something a fan should do.

>> No.65448581

I love fishman‘s cock so much bros

>> No.65448852

>>65437587
I think it's interesting that since this shit with Yuri happened every invader has used a new design and a slightly if not entirely different name

>> No.65448939

>>65446571
>sakana hires mentally ill teenage girls
Based.

>> No.65449627

If you gave a single shit about Nano you'd be watching her streams, clipping her, making memes, had a thread etc. Yet you do none of that. This is simply an anti-Phase thread where you're using her as a sock puppet. Success breeds jealousy and all that. At this magnificent point Phase is poised to become one of the most significant vtubing agencies in the West, and with the current issues in Idol (turns out it was a pump 'n' dump scheme) the path is open and defenseless.

Sakana is unironically saving vtubing. Deal with it, or seethe.

>> No.65450043

>>65449627
this thread is made by a phasefag to anti yuri

>> No.65450262

>>65443121
>comparing the efforts of chinese carp to Jewish startup using US taxpayer money to fund their version of kike hololive
Anon you must have a severe case of redditroon

>> No.65450320

>>65449627
Phaseniggers constantly shit up the board but cry as soon as someone criticizes their beloved CEO. How strange.

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This thread smells funny

>> No.65450903

>>65437587
Yeah, I thought she quite because Sakana and Lumi are monstrous freaks behind the scenes...

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