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RESPECT MY POPULAR DEMAND

>> No.64936589

How are the others holding up

>> No.64937697

>>64936483
Based game
>Will you watc-
No

>> No.64937883

kill all number niggers

>> No.64938129

>>64937883
>1/946
You're rarer than a pokemon

>> No.64940315

>>64936589
pretty much all the same

>> No.64940463

This guy was a low 2view before Stars. I assure you that he's more than happy floating in the high 3-low 4 range.

>> No.64940538

better numbers than half of nijisanji and any small corpos

>> No.64940546

>>64940315
Sisters please stop shitposting and watch your homos, this is grim

>> No.64940614

>>64936483
BASED

>> No.64940741

>>64936483
you are literally obsessed

>> No.64940755

>>64936483
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qgx-WOn8CDA

>> No.64940980

>>64940538
Phase was having a 3k stream while him and the clown were struggling to get 2k combined. Kek.
>Nijisanji
I mean yeah they fell for the male Vtubers meme

>> No.64941148
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>>64936483
For all the fujos that are gonna defend him, reminder that he thinks its rape if you jerk off to fictional characters because they can’t consent. You know, like Vtubers. Like him.

>> No.64941172

>>64940980
>male Vtubers meme
kuzuha has the most viewed streams of december, go ask /#/ for details

>> No.64941197

>>64936483
My Brotuber

>> No.64941412

>>64941172
Yeah and he's the only one in a company with 200 members constantly sucking his dick and doing tournaments to prop him up. And he's also Japanese where Vtubers are pretty much mainstream and on par with flesh streamers.
Meanwhile in the west male Vtubers are a complete meme and outside of a few months of Luxiem they never fucking worked.

>> No.64941431

>>64941148
>I don't like sexualization on characters that don't have a say in it.
You have to be the greatest of brainlets to hear this and interpret it like that.

>> No.64941440

>>64941172
Kuzuha is the exception that proves the rule, even Kanae(number 2 in niji)is quite far from him, Kuzuha can compete with holo 1st army while Kanae is barely on the top of holo 2nd army

>> No.64941789

>>64940980
>I mean yeah they fell for the male Vtubers meme
their newest girls are sub 1k, especially that kunai girl. got even lower daily CCV than red homoen. their girls never set off into a "succesful" chuuba after ethyria.

>> No.64942327
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>>64941431
Sister you really can't gaslight people into agreeing with literal none-sense.
If a "character" is an entity even capable of having a "say" then it follows that they have consent and non-consent. And if you fictionally portray them having sex when they don't consent it follows that you'd call it rape.

THAT is braindead.

>> No.64942690

>>64942327
>I don't like
He never said the word "rape" once. He never even said you're a bad person if you like sexualized characters. Just that he doesn't enjoy it.

The entire discussion was about overuse of fanservice in modern media. You catalogfags are the ones who just don't know what you're talking about.

>> No.64942809

>>64936483
Isn't 1k concurrent viewers kinda good for a game like Dragons' Dogma?

>> No.64942945

>>64942690
>He never even said you're a bad person if you like sexualized characters
Yeah, instead he just said that you’re a pedophile if you watch Gawr Gura

>> No.64943113

>>64942945
Once again, he literally didn't say that once. Just that he doesn't enjoy it himself. Conflating those two statements is highly disingenuous.

>> No.64943131

>>64942809
dont try and reason with number trannies anon

>> No.64943144

>>64942690
>characters that don't have a say in it.
Like I said. None-sense. Male feminist type losers like him have a long history, much older than /vt/ of attacking anime and weeb stuff because characters are people that need to be protected. It's rightfully called out by everyone that thinks about it for more than a second. And taken issue with by people who remember this line of argumentation happening many times before. He's just a soft faggot so he can't push his narritive yet.

Also politisperging, but he's a kike that attacked Rittenhouse so it's very obvious what his agenda is right now.

>> No.64943373

>>64943144
>Also politisperging, but he's a kike that attacked Rittenhouse so it's very obvious what his agenda is right now.
PL?

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>>64943131
>number trannies
the entire board*

>> No.64943604

>>64943144
He actually did clown on you retards in his membership stream yesterday. Especially like in >>64941148 who are attacking him while misunderstanding his statement to mean that a fictional character can content to a real person sexualizing them.

His only position is that storytelling should be consistent. If a character is going to be sexualized, make a reason why that is the case. Make it an important aspect of the character's narrative.

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>>64943604
Yeah. I'm sure he was really cool in his membership of about 20 devoted sisters sucking his dick while he prattled on the same old feminist pearl clutching psuedo intellectual writing points.

Well unfortunately I don't have a membership to this bright individual so I have to take your word for it.

>> No.64943854

>>64943604
>His only position is that storytelling should be consistent. If a character is going to be sexualized, make a reason why that is the case. Make it an important aspect of the character's narrative.
Because they’re hot? Since when the fuck should people care about “narrative” when they masturbate to something? You doxrealize the whole “skipping the story in porn” thing isn’t just a meme, right?

>> No.64943956

>>64943854
But he's not talking about porn. The topic in question was about Beyonetta and on another instance about isekai anime.

>> No.64944008

>>64943604
>Make it an important aspect of the character's narrative.
Yeah because that's the important thing in peoples mind when they are watching an ecchi anime.

>> No.64944100

>>64943956
Bayonetta is sexualized because she’s hot

Anime girls are sexualized because they’re hot

What other reason is there?

>> No.64944126

>>64944008
All he said was that he doesn't like it. So yes, he's not interested in ecchi anime. You can still like it. There's no problem. I don't get why that's so crazy to you.

>> No.64944195

>>64944008
He said he was never into anime and manga and usually only watch/read what his friends recommended to him. I dropped him after hearing that.

>> No.64944218

>>64943956
I don't think he called people pedo, but I think its a stupid take and people just need to say it was stupid and move on. 2B wears a mini skirt and high heels because Yoko Taro likes it and that's fine.

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>>64944195
Then why did he choose to become a 3view anime boy instead of a face streamer?

>> No.64944306
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64944306

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGNbm3KGt7w&t=1042s
They really are homosexual...

>> No.64944360

>>64944100
One has a sexualized personality that says something about the character's upbringing, frame of mind, relationship with other people, what they value in life.

The other is boring and just happens for no reason. I promise you Ruze jerks off. If he wants porn he'll watch mindless porn. But that's not his idea of good storytelling.

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64944443

>I PROMISE YOU Ruze jerks off!
Sister...

>> No.64944461

>>64944218
It is fine. He never said it wasn't fine. Just that he doesn't enjoy it as much as a piece of writing that does put more thought behind it. It's simply a preference. You guys are taking that to mean he hates all perverts.

>> No.64944477

>>64944283
I dunno, a lot of people choose to become vtubers even when they’re not into anime and manga for different reasons.

>> No.64944546

>>64944283
vtubing is full of fake weebs

>> No.64944549

>>64937883
Laugh at all homos

>> No.64944721
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>>64944360
The problem is that he’s tackling this from a moral position. He thinks that he is morally superior for not finding fanservice attractive, which means he thinks that people who DO find it attractive are morally inferior to him, and thus are bad people who have committed some form of crime. Morality, by definition, is a binary; you cannot have good without evil. He cannot act like he’s not calling others bad people for liking fanservice, when he explicitly sees himself as a morally better person BECAUSE he doesn’t enjoy fanservice.

>> No.64944731

>>64944443
It's really pathetic how hard femcels will cape for incel dick as soon as they hide behind an anime boy avatar

>> No.64944984

>>64944721
Except that on multiple occasions, he's stated clearly that he is not better than anyone else and that he's just a dumbass on the internet.

This is not the same as Ame's "Improve yourself" or Kronii's "Don't you have female friends?" He's just explaining what he likes and doesn't like himself.

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>>64944984
You are attempting to have a reasonable discussion with someone whose sole purpose is to come here to be purposefully malicious. I commend your efforts, but know you are talking to someone on the level of pond scum.

>> No.64945474

>>64936483
Did he really shit on wakfu or was that another rrat? If he did, I swear I will fucking anti this fag for life, Vive la France!

>> No.64945778

>>64944283
A lot of mediocre streamers use vtubing as an easy way to get popular, that's why so many western indies post IRL pics, they don't care about the spirit of vtubing.

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>>64944984
Again, he is making a moral argument, thus he is invariably judging others by judging himself
>Does Ruze find Gura attractive?
No
>Why?
Because he sees Gura as an underage child
>Why?
Because Ruze thinks lolis and real children are the same thing
>And why is that bad?
Because people who find real-life children attractive tend to be child molesters, and Ruze isn’t a child molester
>So by using deduction, that means Ruze believes that people who do like Gura ARE child molesters?
Yes

It’s simple A->B->C logical deduction. Read a book, or play Ace Attorney.

>> No.64945889

>>64945474
He shit on the people who sexualizes the girl characters

>> No.64946005

>>64945164
>reasonable
it's just brainless guarding
>>64945793
You can clearly hear the derision in his voice
>>64944306

>> No.64946031

>>64945889
Isn't that the show with the girl are drawn with big hips?

>> No.64946764

>>64945164
All of you thin skin faggots need to go the fuck back, /vt/ is not your safe space

>> No.64947237

>>64945164
you're such a faggot holy shit

>> No.64947511

>pedocons still going at this guy
from what the sisters say, he's alright and you faggots are just mad
>he wants a lore reason for why a character is sexualized like bayonetta
anyone who disagrees with this is the same type of faggot who watch harem anime just because it's a harem, KEK

>> No.64947571

900 viewers is a ton. The male fleshtubers I watch get 100-200 viewers and can live comfortably off ad revenue and viewer donations. This post just shows that OP is very, very stupid.

>> No.64948117

>>64947571
when your viewership shrinks by 80% you're actually owning the unicorns

>> No.64948292

>>64936483
is this the pronoun and anti-loli one?
cuz it's weird to see him take that stance but make jokes about hurting elderly people

>> No.64948748

>>64946764
>>64947237
>Point proven

>> No.64948919

>>64942945
Based and true. Any baby fucker that watches Gura belongs in jail getting forehead stamped and ass fucked until they hang themselves in their cell.

>> No.64949005

>>64940463
I don't think Jurard can say the same though.

>> No.64949010 [DELETED] 

>>64943765
>writes a string of intelligent sounding words he read on Twitter
>posts a picture of a tranime girl
You have a 105 IQ at most.

>> No.64949921

>>64942809
To some people on this board, below 5k or even 10k is pretty much shit.

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>>64949010
Which newfag board did you blow in from?

>> No.64950830

>>64943604
>he doesn't look down on people who like fan service and fictional characters being sexualized!
>he also made fun of people of you for it.

>> No.64950876

>>64950830
>made fun of people of you
SEAnigger gtfo

>> No.64951235
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64951235

>Characters should only be sexualized if they themselves choose to present that way!
>People who sexualize Wakfu characters are weird
>I don't want to sexualize fictional children, wtf!?
>btw im not morally grandstanding
>"omg guys he's not actually judging people who like it, he just finds it morally wrong and weird"
>"he also made fun of you in a member stream"
You people are dogs.

>> No.64951844

>>64951235
>I think fictional beings should behave in a way that makes sense for their character.
>He thinks lewd fanart is rape.
>Wow these guys are media-illiterate
>RUZE IS BEING MEAN TO ME!!! MOOOOOOM

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>>64951844
>I think fictional beings should behave in a way that makes sense for their character.
And that's still a dumbass statement people here don't agree with. You and your oshi are just being obtuse about it and attacking strawmans. There is objectively nothing wrong with NSFW fanart or media, even if it contains nonconsensual acts, just like GTA isn't an evil game because you can ride on the sidewalk and hit 50 people for nothing but your amusement.
Ruze is probably the worst star so far, with an annoying as fuck voice. I'd rather listen to a 50-year-old Vietnamese rice farmer who had smoked and drunk all his life.

>> No.64952985

>>64936483
>high 3view money for playing Dragon’s Dogma
I know you think you’re owning this guy but you’re just making me want his job.

>> No.64952999

>>64952185
While he hasn't clarified his position on the exact topic of rape in media (probably would get bonked by management), I bet you he doesn't have anything against nonconsentual acts against women IF it has narrative value.

What he is against is boilerplate fanservice tropes that have been overused to death because writers don't know any other way to portray women. "Oh no, the MC opened the bathroom door without knocking. Who could have seen that coming."

It's boring. It's not even a moral position. Writing like this just makes the story and character boring.

And GTA is an awful example since that's emergent gameplay. The player creates the story, so they can navigate that however they want. That's not writing anymore. If it's the content of a story mission, that would be applicable.

Also, Ruze isn't my oshi at all. I got gifted the membership and wanted to watch LoTR. I just get mad at how irrational catalog is being over such a small comment about his own personal preferences.

>> No.64953183

>>64952999
Him alluding to loli/shotacons being weirdos is spitting in half of the other talents face.

>> No.64953258

>>64953183
You're making the assumption that he's judging anybody that likes cunny. All he ever said was that he's not interested.

>> No.64953394

>>64953258
This sound's pretty judgmental. >>64944306

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>>64953394
If I say I'm not into watersports and someone tells me it's all fictional, I'm going to have that same reaction. It doesn't matter to me if it's fictional, it's still not what I'm into.

This does not mean I hate everyone that enjoys getting pissed on.

>> No.64953758

>>64936483
Dragon's Dogma filters out the undesirables

>> No.64954136

>>64953758
So being a homo filter the desirable, and dragon dogma filter the undesirable, so basicaly what's left of his audience are people who can't read the mood? seems on point.

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>>64944306
wtf is with the homos and playing fucking wow? play ff14 like a real weeb

>> No.64954321

>>64949005
Really? He was higher before this?

>> No.64956575

>>64944283
He likes playing a character and this is a way he can get paid to do it

>> No.64957095

>>64945474
He watched it and really liked the final fight and villain of the first season.
He didn't like the amount of fan service, especially since the two main girls are underaged. Overall, he recommended it.

>> No.64957617

>>64954266
uhhh that child race is a bit problematic okay???

>> No.64958029
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>>64946031
I guess. It's anime levels of stupid though, because

>This girl is 13

>> No.64958249

>>64957617
i didnt realise being cute is problematic but sure ok do you need to be added to the list? https://archive.md/U23XK asmongold or that star who doesnt like loli reference?

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>>64958029
This makes the female empowerment homostar cry and shit himself in anger

>> No.64959369

>>64959248
He probably had many sleepless nights thinking about why the show would include such a scene.

>> No.64959461

>>64959248
ugly art style

>> No.64959934
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64959934

>>64959248
Mr.Ruze get down!

>> No.64960128

>>64945889
Then he shit on the creators
>>64957095
He sounds like a normalfag with superiority complex but I might be wrong

>> No.64960577

>>64945164
Amazing that people are actually mad that something this obvious is being pointed out and don't realize that they're such obvious marks doing so.

>> No.64960651

>>64960128
Yeah, he admits as such. So he recognizes it as a character flaw. He says he has to actively try not to look down on people who say katanas are their favorite weapon, because he associates that with people who are uneducated on the subject.
He is very obviously an average to above average nerd you can find in most FLGS.

>> No.64960677

>>64951235
is he really that retarded? I bet he only dislikes it when men do it, women sexualize underage characters all the time but he's probably ok with it

>> No.64961273

>They let an ironic weeb into the agency
At this point, I would have preferred am unashamed perverted cum guzzling sex pest.

>> No.64961291

>>64960677
>>64953258

>> No.64962230
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>homo
Who cares?

>> No.64963446

>>64943604
nah, it was a dumb statement by him that he's been forced into the corner to defend
he's a tourist who dislikes japanese culture while working in a japanese comapny with coworkers who are a part of the culture he vocally dislikes

>> No.64963550

>>64944283
the money

>> No.64963606

>>64947511
anon you're defending a faggot who doesn't even know anything about the industry and doesn't watch anything, he's just a leech who watched too much asmongold

>> No.64963662

>>64962230
he was shit talking the other girls in the company with his statements

>> No.64964023

>>64963446
Implying Japanese culture and media can only be head empty fanservice. You know that sexual themes can add to a story right?

Literally just be smart about it. We're the bodysuits in EVA for fanservice? Probably. Did Anno still find a way to explain it that fleshes out the mechanics of the technology and improves the world building? Also yes. Expectations for writing are way too low these days.

>> No.64964157

>>64964023
Not everything needs an explanation. Just let people enjoy what they like and not shit on them for it.

>> No.64964516

>>64964157
The only one shitting on anyone is catalog over a man responding to a question about his preferences. You guys are the ones pushing your tastes onto him. He only ever stated what he values in media, you guys took it as a personal attack.

>> No.64964584

>>64964516
If he had shut his mouth about fictional characters needing consent to be sexualized, no one would be shitting on him.

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