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64291561 No.64291561 [Reply] [Original]

She was right, you know

>> No.64294096

About?

>> No.64294197

>>64294096
About me being her ideal partner.

>> No.64294920

Her numbers wont greatly change but it's certain that she lost many of her potential future fans. It's too early for her to join some streamer fest. Homo stuff aside, the problem with a big streamer party is that unless you are a huge nerd of the streamer industry you don't even know over 80 percent of the participants. I only know Holo and Niji and a few indies so can't enjoy any other interactions.

>> No.64294962

>>64291561
she's having fun talking with the guys and laughing to their jokes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmwwUsuHshs

>> No.64295314

>>64294096
About me becoming her husband.

>> No.64295451

I love the way she treat her fan like literal cucks

>> No.64295654

That guy who was posting about his gyaru wife constantly was really testing fate.
And fate is as fickle as a slutty chuuba.

>> No.64298382

>>64294962
Thanks for providing context.

>> No.64299360

>>64295654
yeah, I'm wondering if we'll see any more of those posts.

>> No.64299590

>>64291561
Kinda, but it won't work now that she said it outloud. If she actually tries doing ASMR the surviving unicorns will just be insulted rather than soothed.

>> No.64299941

>>64299590
she doesn't even do ASMR she was probably making a reference to akirose

>> No.64299948

>>64291561
It was retarded to say because even the gachis that don't like male collabs but were willing to put up with them now see her ASMR as a manipulative tactic instead of a loving thing because she herself framed it as such.
She filtered more than just her unicorns with that drunk stream.

>> No.64300597

>>64299941
>Akirose
>unicorns
???????

>> No.64301180

>still pretending to care about males
nobody here is a unicorn.
nobody here watches ririka.
you are just drama queens.

>> No.64301898

>>64301180
and also actual queens (not the royal kind)

>> No.64302165

>>64299948
>She filtered more than just her unicorns with that drunk stream.
She really didn't

>> No.64302235

>>64291561
I don't even give a shit about her talking to guys, but if we get an asmr out of it, sweet.

>> No.64302468

>>64301180
Just because I don't watch her doesn't mean I can't be mad at her

>> No.64302517

>>64302468
you aren't though. you are just pretending to be.

>> No.64302717

>>64302468
That's exactly what it means. If you don't watch her, then why do you even care? Just be truthful and admit you're here for the drama.

>> No.64302882
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64302882

>>64294962
I was hoping this VCR shit actually was GTA RP but it's just a fucking streamer chatroom.

>> No.64302956

>>64301180
I'm a unicorn who only subbed to ririka in regloss because she had a fun personality, not anymore ofc. No big deal since it was pretty much expected from the group from the get go.

>> No.64302959
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64302959

Ririka is my girlfriend

>> No.64303160

>>64294096
About her ASMR will heal her unicorns and bring them back to her

>> No.64303215

>>64303160
does anyone have the actual timestamp for this?

>> No.64303313

>>64303215
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRbuMZDr4zo&t=10898s
> Nooo~ I don't want the unicorns to just silently leave~ I want them to stay~
> It's fine for you guys to stay!
> Ririka wants to fix your horn~
> It's fine to take it off when washing, but I want it to stay! Isn't it fine?!
> "Are unicorns even here?" - chat.
> Of course they are!
> I don't want them to disappear! They won't disappear, I'll just put the horn back in.
> It's fine, I'll revive them with my ASMR.
> Isn't this better though? Isn't this more like a "boyfriend" experience?
> Rather than saying "I love you" to girls who don't know males and never interact with males, surely it's a lot better when she knows a bunch of guys, but only loves YOU right?
> Yeah, so. I don't know what I'm saying but *intermittent laughter*.
> I might have messed up my words a bit here and there, but I just wanted to tell you guys that you don't have to worry.
> Rather than be silent and ignoring the elephant in the room, I wanted to convey my feelings.
> These are my feelings! Yoroshiku na!

>> No.64303342

>>64294197
>>64295314
She'll get to both of you after she tries out 100 other dudes first. It's important for a girl to have some experience.

>> No.64303374

She won't lose so many fans but instead her fanbase won't grow. She will probably go down the same route as Laplus or Towa if not Matsuri. If she started playing Apex or Valo, she probably will though, it'd be the point of no return.

>> No.64303432

>>64303313
>It's fine, I'll revive them with my ASMR.
this should be
>they will come back if i do asmr

>> No.64303534

>>64303313
I love my girlfriend Riri

>> No.64303590

>>64291561
the chainsmoker is best girl anyway

>> No.64303809

>>64303374
Botan lost a good chunk of her viewership but she's been with the company long enough where she's fine because of her large viewership and already had 3 years of loyal viewers to build up.
Ririka is a newbie in a branch people are still skeptical about who did GFE, the temporary boost in viewership is not worth the long term damage to her own career seeing how baiting SC was the main thing she was good at.

>> No.64303897

>>64303809
>long term damage
you people act like unicorns are more than 5% of viewers.
>oh but the super chat numbers
that's seriously all you faggot antis think about. drama queen bitches.

>> No.64303920

>>64302882
The server is mainly composed of vtubers, streamers, mangakas & artists, and voice actors. Prolific va such as Nakamura Yuichi (Gojo Satoru - JJK) is also there. So I kinda get why they want to jump on the bandwagon to build social networks in the industry for projects, new songs, arts etc.

>> No.64303996

>>64303313
Won’t work now

>> No.64304022

>>64303313
This is evil

>> No.64304045

>>64304022
>>64303996
wait a little longer than 8 seconds between posts samefag

>> No.64304053

>>64303897
Beggars can't think about money. It terrifies them to talk about things they do not have. Don't you have some clips to watch?

>> No.64304106

>>64304053
literally incomprehensible. what are you even saying? who are you referring to? ririka is a beggar? your whole retard argument is that she wants their money.

>> No.64304111

>antis try to go after shiri and spam threads
>fail
>antis switch and try to go after fuwamoco and spam threads
>fail
>antis switch and try to go after nerissa and spam threads
>fail
>antis switch try to go after ririka and spam threads
I sure wonder what will happen next. You would think they were a little less obvious when they coordinate their discord raids.

>> No.64304114

>>64303313
finally a proper translation, thank you

>> No.64304131

>>64301180
>nobody here is a unicorn
Explain the absolute state of the catalog, then

>> No.64304149

>>64304111
I wish they picked Hajime next, she could use the exposure and numbers these retards are handing for free <3

>> No.64304159

>>64304114
>>64303432
keep in mind what she actually said never implies any action on her part

>>64304131
forced fake drama because that's all /vt/ is.

>> No.64304173

>>64304106
beggar and retarded

>> No.64304184

>>64304173
learn english

>> No.64304190

Why did she break my heart?

>> No.64304210

>>64304131
>implying that the catalog actually watches streams
they dont have a horse in any race, they just wanna be mad.

>> No.64304238
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64304238

>>64304173
Anon you do know that she is the #2 most superchatted in hololive of last month right?
The only begging that is done here is you begging for her to fail LMAO

>> No.64304346

Keep seething unicorn.
unicorn are cancernin this world

>> No.64304367

>>64291561
Way too soon to call it IMO, you have to wait a couple months to see if there's an observed effect but once it sets in and bites it bites fucking hard as ame/mori/kronii/ollie etc can attest to.

You see, the initial anger of the fans towards a chuuba IS the genuine SHTF moment right there, and after hours/days go by the people who show up to the immediate next stream is itself the -response- to the SHTF moment in the past, not the moment of truth itself. People who weren't her fan before are only there performatively because they don't like how her real actual fans acted, they don't care about the girl herself. Once they think they've taught whatever nebulous lesson they think they did they'll fuck off pretty soon and then you'll see the gradual ebbing away of the fanbase over time afterwards. You'd have to wait a few months and then compare Riri to how the other regloss fare by then to really see if it made a difference or not.

>> No.64304387

>>64304238
nta but last month this whole scenario was nowhere in the picture and now, it is.

>> No.64304395

>>64303313
>Isn't this better though? Isn't this more like a "boyfriend" experience?
I don't care if it is fake as long as she is functionally doing GFE

>> No.64304411

>>64304367
this is the most insane cope ive read all day

>> No.64304412

So what happened to Nijisanji to cause this melty?

>> No.64304435

she said something else, sounded apologetic but I'm not nihongo jouzu enough to fully understand
https://youtu.be/NbAQZloICls?t=230

>> No.64304448

>>64304411
you're either ignorant, going "nu uh" disengenuously even though you know the truth, or are delusional if you think there was no correlation to the utter crashes all those listed girls experienced within 6 months-year of their having a falling out with some portion of their fans.

>> No.64304454

>>64304238
>>64304367

>> No.64304471

>>64304454
>>64304387
fucking moron

>> No.64304558

>>64304435
>last night's stream was pretty crazy huh?
>people who saw it live or watched the archive were probably quite surprised, im really sorry.
>i wanted to keep things light by mixing in some jokes while discussing things and i think there was a part where i went a little too far. i feel really bad. im sorry.
>i know this is an important time for people to get to know me. ive thought a lot about participating (in vcr gta) and talked to my manager a lot about it. it got a bit heated sometimes too, not in a bad way.
>i decided to join after all of that. ive thought about it. thank you.
>ive set the chat to requiring being subbed for 10 mins before you can chat just for today so if you havent subbed yet please do

>> No.64304585

>>64304558
thank you

>> No.64304592

>>64304435
Nothing special. It's like I was going a bit too far yesterday, so forgive me but plz understand it was a difficult decision to join it. I want to make many new friends there and I'll do my best

>> No.64304594

>>64304448
no, you are a numberfag who is conjuring up a perfect scenario that requires all of her fans being fake, not just the unicorns. it makes absolutely no sense, and less the more i read.

>> No.64304632

Ririka was supposed to be MY girlfriend...

>> No.64304681

>>64304594
you fucking lack the brainpower to understand my words then. what I listed out is fucking precisely what we have observed happen multiple times in EN -

>girl does/says something stupid that divides the fans
>gets a bunch of "support" suddenly out of nowhere trying to drown out her actual fans getting mad
>immediately point to the first stream after the yab and go "hahaha you guys did nothing suck it unicorns :)"
>months go by, chuuba sinks down to new lows far far below normal
>people make threads openly asking what went wrong, what would she need to do to get your interest etc and the threads are full of "you know why" or "nope, never going back"

That is LITERALLY what has happened for all those listed chuubas. it's not something you can have an opinion on or wish way. it's fucking fact. deal with it and go fuck yourself.

>> No.64304683

>>64291561
Second delusional thread in /vt/. First being IM threadposter.

>> No.64304699

>>64291561
She was right in letting everyone know how much of a fucking dipshit she is relatively early on, yes.

>> No.64304721

>>64304681
yeah and im saying that doesnt happen. it didnt happen to any of the girls you listed. it only happened within the delusional headcanon of you fucking lunatics. you dont even watch their streams either way to know even if they did lose fans. controversy doesnt sink vtubers like you claim. it just doesnt.

>> No.64304741

>>64301180
I actually did watch her occasionally, since she's the only good design in Regloss. Now there's truly nothing for me in this entire branch. I wasn't terribly invested though, so whatever.

>> No.64304766

>>64304721
>controversy doesn't sink Vtubers
you really are retarded

>> No.64304789

>>64304766
says the numberfag

>> No.64304807

>>64304721
cope

>> No.64304823

>>64304721
nta but who is your oshi and how long have you been membered to her?

>> No.64304851

>>64304823
dont have one, havent spent a dime on vtubers. does that make my true statement false?

>> No.64304860
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64304860

>>64304766
to be fair vtubers does not shed as much viewers as fleshstreamers do when they fuck up. Even when fleshstreamers dont really fuck up they can go from 40k average CCV to under 100 CCV like the case with Myth, no yab, no real fuck up, everyone just left

>> No.64304861

>>64304721
What happened to la+ bro

>> No.64304870

>>64303342
yeah, all me

>> No.64304871

>>64304681
This guys almost totally right. Anyway any famale vtuber who homocollabs never gets in the top league.

>> No.64304882

>>64304861
if you watched her streams you would know that nothing happened. people who decided they hate her because they live for drama got together and brainstormed how her world was ending while the sane people just continued to watch her.

>> No.64304898

>>64304882
Lol. Lmao

>> No.64304901

>>64304741
If you don't care about pre-debut stuff, I recommend watching Kanade's karaoke streams. She's one of the best singers in the company.

>> No.64304902

>>64304871
>another numberfag
explain again how this whole thing isnt just numberfags farming drama?

>> No.64304907

>>64304131
Never trust /vt/

>> No.64304917

>>64302468
thx for proving that she's right

>> No.64304916

Don't care, would still hatefuck ririka and get her pregnant.

.t coomer

>> No.64304923

>>64304111
can they go for kanade next, she needs the exposure

>> No.64304980

>>64304882
>watch her shorts
Fixed

>> No.64304982

>>64304898
>numberfag realises the world he and his friends created was a farce

>> No.64304986

>>64304882
you’re actually fucking retarded if you really believe laplus numbers did not go down because she collabed with guys

>> No.64305003

So what's the qrd on what actually happened?

>> No.64305007

>>64304131
The catalog, and this board is filled with gossiping "men" who act like /cgl/ catgirls that live off drama.

>> No.64305041

>>64304980
>he doesn't know

>>64304986
>the line went down!
all you have is numberfag drama queen arguments. so she burned off some dead weight. if you actually watched her (which you dont and wont and never did in the first place) you would know that absolutely nothing changed

>> No.64305094

>>64304902
I'm talking about popularity. Name one vtuber whos more popular and gets more work in many other genres than the Holo jp top army. Ofc all vtubers don't need to be big but then If you are fine and satisfied with niche vtubers then what's your complaint? Just enjoy the niches and ignore Hololive. Many holo jp fans want them to be big and it's not anything to be blamed.

>> No.64305097

Are the people cheering on her self destruction retarded or antis?

>> No.64305113

>>64291561
No

>> No.64305117

>>64305094
no you arent. you are talking about numbers.

>> No.64305139

>>64304986
It did go down, but not entirely because of that.

>> No.64305156

>>64303374
This

>> No.64305182

>>64305041
>dead weight
She literally fucked off to twitch because her growth died

>> No.64305190

>>64304131
Kek

>> No.64305196

>>64305182
>more numbers
you just dont get it do you

>> No.64305200

>>64305097
Every homobeggar is a anti with 0 exceptions

>> No.64305222

>>64305097
yes

>> No.64305243

>>64305097
Yes.
The anon arguing with the numberfag even admitted that they never spent money on vtubers.

>> No.64305251

>>64305196
Do you? La+ herself clearly cares about numbers

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64305286

>>64303313
I've just come off a long-ass weekend shift so I'm just catching up on shit now, but good to know, thanks.

I was only a passive supporter to begin with so it's no big deal, but I guess that's the whole point about streamers with longer established fanbases being able to weather this more easily as their fans actually have enough buy in to weigh this against.

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64305290

>>64303313
>Rather than saying "I love you" to girls who don't know males and never interact with males, surely it's a lot better when she knows a bunch of guys, but only loves YOU right?

>> No.64305293

>>64305117
I watch 2view indie vtubers. I however like Hololive members as well because I want to enjoy and experience their glowth and success by supporting them. Hololive can bring the experience to you. You however don't need it, don't you? Then just ignore Hololive.

>> No.64305322

>>64305251
i care about content. i couldnt give two shits about how many viewers there are or were or how many dollarydoos someone made.

>> No.64305351

>>64305293
i like hololive for the same reasons. i dont judge growth and success by watching lines go up and down.

>> No.64305355

she lost a sub thanks to this thread

>> No.64305360

I always forget how mentally ill vtuber fans are until I come back to this board every month or two.

>> No.64305369

>>64305355
I'm sure she is devastated and is crying herself to sleep with the dollar bills being the #2 earner in hololive

>> No.64305379

>>64294096
NTA, but she drew a pretty clear line, she'll go on things like this or garibenger for the sake of growing her audience, but she's not going to go beyond friendly but impersonal conversation and jokes with any guys. This is actually pretty obvious already even in just two streams, whenever she's talked with any of guys it's always focused around a particular goal, and once she achieves that goal she leaves them behind and goes back off to do her own thing. The only connection with a sign of lasting engagement so far is starting a pizzeria with another girl vtuber.

The problem, of course, is that there's different levels to unicorns, including a level to which making a joke at a guy or laughing at a guy's jokes is tantamount to having sex while chat is forced to watch. This strict definition of unicorn is what people here mostly seem to have in mind, and if that's the definition you want to use, then yeah, she probably isn't for you. But her line in the sand is that no matter what, even if she does talk with a guy, she's not for that guy, she's for her audience, and no one else.

Even this much maligned line
> Rather than saying "I love you" to girls who don't know males and never interact with males, surely it's a lot better when she knows a variety of guys, but only loves YOU right?
is, if you actually read the sentence instead of jumping to conclusions, not just harmless but affectionate. She's not using the biblical sense of know, she's just saying she's aware of their existence. (Also, I disagree with translating 色々 as "a bunch", it's more about the variety of types of guys, not the quantity of them). She's saying that it's not that she loves her audience because she has no other options, it's that she is aware of other options but will never be interested in them and will always pick her chat instead. And if that's still over your personal line, that's perfectly reasonable, everyone's line is different places.

The dumb thing though is the people that immediately jump to some sort of NTR scenario where "knows a variety of guys but loves you" is read as "has an orgy with dozens of guys while you're tied to the cuck chair being fed scraps of affection". And if that were just comedic hyperbole, that would be one thing, but an awful lot of people seem to be just making up new sentences to get genuinely mad at.

>> No.64305392

>>64305369
You don't get it!!! ~30 dollars from /vt/ is extremely important to their careers!

>> No.64305399

>>64291561
Why did she do it?

>> No.64305400

>>64305392
? Subs are free, she lost literally nothing

>> No.64305421

>>64304986
Already trying to memoryhole her ccv on her anniversary compared to the rest of gen6 since it doesn't fit in your narrative, huh?

>> No.64305425

>>64305400
Misread the post. Now it only makes the people acting like they're on a high horse even more pathetic. I don't even watch Ririka, but this shit is hilarious to me.

>> No.64305429

I love Ririka

>> No.64305434

>>64305379
Her biggest fuck up was making that comment about how all she has to do is do an ASMR stream to win back the unicorns.
If she didn't say that then the majority of the heat wouldn't have happened on the JP side.

>> No.64305440

>>64305322
Uh-huh. So you had zero issues with following her to twitch for said content. Clearly, nothing changed at all

>> No.64305451

>>64305434
that isnt what she said. she said they will come back if she does asmr. implying they are coomers. EOPs shouldnt parrot shit.

>> No.64305458

>>64305360
Go back and kys

>> No.64305472

>>64305458
Go back where, exactly?

>> No.64305482

>>64305440
that's right. i watched her in vsaikyo last month and im watching her in VCR.

>> No.64305496

>>64305425
> I don't even watch Ririka
and despite that you defend her to the death, it's pathetic.

>> No.64305514

>>64305451
that is still degrading even if its true, you should not publicly talk down to a portion of your viewers.

>> No.64305517

>>64305496
Where did you get that impression? I'm just laughing at dramafags having a melty over somebody they also don't care about before they move on to the next fake drama in a week.

>> No.64305520

>pandering to unicorn
>Male collab
What her endgame?

>> No.64305521

>>64305472
X

>> No.64305533

>>64305520
Who is she collabing with?

>> No.64305536

>>64305521
I don't have an account on that website though? Why would you assume I do?

>> No.64305553

>>64305520
She thinks joining the server will get her more fans or at least that was the rationale she told her fans.

>> No.64305554

>>64305514
she was joking. once again, you are an EOP who didnt watch the stream, not even a clip, and now you are moving the goalposts to fit the narrative you built in your dramaqueen head.

>> No.64305562

>>64305520
whore

>> No.64305567

>>64305533
My dick

>> No.64305574

Who are we going to get mad at next?

>> No.64305582

>>64305562
>>64301180

>> No.64305598
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64305598

>>64305517
>I'm just laughing

>> No.64305617

>>64305598
You're the one seething over a vtuber you don't watch, so I don't know if that Redditjak is meant for me.

>> No.64305628

>>64305379
/thread

>> No.64305636

>>64305553
That might work if she didn't pander to unicorn so hard and belittle them with she just need to do ASMR

>> No.64305649

>>64305379
>people that immediately jump to NTR
100% of unicorns and dramafags are unironic cucks who constantly think about girls they don't know fucking other men. This will never change.

>> No.64305663

>>64305636
>>64305451

>> No.64305700

>>64305554
Can't wait until oboretai twist her word then.

>> No.64305724

Riri threw all her fan's trust away

>> No.64305735

>>64305724
great post

>> No.64305816

>>64305554
Honestly, it's kind of amazing, I'd have thought even an EOP would have realized the dynamic between Ririka and her chat, which is that outside of her game streams (and sometimes even in those) both sides are almost constantly bantering and teasing each other. Do people actually think Ririka puts together her genkai meshi sincerely believing that this time for sure she'll convince chat it's good food? Do people not realize that the chat that's acting so disgusted at her genkai meshi seem to keep coming back every time?

>> No.64305837

>>64304882
>sane people just continued to watch her.
>sane
lmao

>> No.64305848

>>64305837
>no argument

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>>64305649

>> No.64305875

>>64305617
You don't even know what that meme means, tourist.

>> No.64305882

>>64305816
you have to watch vtubers to know what they are like. /vt/ just talks about vtubers.

>> No.64305933

RIRIKA BETRAYED EVERYONE

>> No.64306005

>>64305649
This is what being a NijiEN and twitch viewer does to a human being. Never be like these creatures

>> No.64306175

>>64305379
Oh wow, a resonable comment on a thread like this...

>> No.64306412

>>64303313
>Rather than saying "I love you" to girls who don't know males and never interact with males, surely it's a lot better when she knows a bunch of guys, but only loves YOU right?
That's a pretty good point. She seems easy enough to understand, I'll member and watch.

>> No.64306480

>>64305554
It's literally what she said you cuck, maybe you should go and rewatch stream again retard.

>> No.64306488

>>64305379
it's not like she does ASMR for the guys she streams with.

>> No.64306591

>>64305182
she said it was because of the algorithm, by the way.
(she might try the new shorts streams, then.)

>> No.64306620

>>64305850
then why do you have a problem with males?

>> No.64306700

>>64304986
oh, really, I thought it was because she tried to promote her roommate and was generally not very serious. retard.

>> No.64307805

>>64305360
just read the comments on any clip, it's more obvious if you check the ones that include homos

>> No.64308326
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64308326

Should learn from sakamata how to handle this e celeb / homo collab

>> No.64308515

>>64304210
>the catalog is one person

>> No.64308554

>>64306488
unless...

>> No.64308567

>>64308515
Not wrong

>> No.64308574

>>64303313
>Rather than saying "I love you" to girls who don't know males and never interact with males, surely it's a lot better when she knows a bunch of guys, but only loves YOU right?
she actually gets it

>> No.64308620

>>64308574
okay sister #cut4hex

>> No.64308665

>>64308326
I mean, Chloe is basically Ame's way
>you guys are acting stupid, let's just get over it lmao
people just don't whine over it endlessly here since she wasn't the board darling for 2 years

>> No.64308712

>>64301180
>he thinks it's all a big larp
You're a naive fool anon.

>> No.64308752

>>64303313
Honestly she's too kind when she's comforting these retards.

>> No.64308756

homobeggars would literally tell the girls to jump out the window just to own le chuds and this is who some girls choose to listen to

>> No.64308839

>>64308756
unicorns would literally tell the girls to jump out the window if they dare to talk to a male and this is who some girls choose to listen to

>> No.64308866

>>64291561
Some people are too obsessed with getting cucked. A lot of a time it is a self-fulfilling prophecy for them. This entire drama is just shit. Does she straight up flirt with people she comes across while playing? Does she lust for cock live on the telly? It is so easy to be a cuck in the eyes of a true cuck, Jesus Christ.

>> No.64308872

>>64308756
and unicorn retards still don't understand that the most basic aspect of human psychology is that whoever tells you "don't do X" quickly becomes an enemy
you don't even need to want to do X very badly, the annoying nagging will plant the desire in your brain and the less of an NPC sheep you are, the more you'll want to do it

it's like during Covid
>don't leave your house
>don't interact with people
>don't talk to anyone without wearing 2 masks

the constant insistent restriction of your freedom doesn't even need to be some nonsense demand, but patronizing adult people will ALWAYS breed resentment and resistance, unless they have literally no spine

>> No.64308920

>>64303313
>>Rather than saying "I love you" to girls who don't know males and never interact with males, surely it's a lot better when she knows a bunch of guys, but only loves YOU right?
wait ririka is based.

>> No.64308993

>>64303313
I have to respect her directness, even if some things might be better left unsaid. Also, cool that she recognizes the reality of the situation. (With regards to who's watching and how they usually react.)

>> No.64309132

>>64303313
i'll be waiting on the ASMR then

>> No.64309206

>>64303897
>you people act like unicorns are more than 5% of viewers.
It's not black and white like that. There are many people who dislike male collabs without being true unicorns. (And those are certainly make up more than 5% of hololive's audience.)
Take me for example, I don't judge anyone for collabing with males. I'm just not interested in that type of content. The only reason I'm strictly against it is because it would set a precedent and I'd get less of my preferred content ever after.

>> No.64309261

>>64309206
I used to be like you until the homobeggars attacked.

>> No.64309279

>>64309206
>The only reason I'm strictly against it is because it would set a precedent and I'd get less of my preferred content ever after.
we have examples of that not being true
despite Bae/Mori being some of the most homo friendly, they also ramped the girls-only content they output over years, it's not a zero sum game

>> No.64309338

>>64306620
I don't have problems with men, I don't like it when they collaborate with Holo.

>> No.64309344

>>64303313
>Rather than saying "I love you" to girls who don't know males and never interact with males, surely it's a lot better when she knows a bunch of guys, but only loves YOU right?

Huh yeah, it shows she's loyal and knows to keep her distant for the sake of the person she loves, which is (you). I'll still avoid garbage like that tho because I hate male streamer voices unless they're a married ojisan

>> No.64309370

>>64308839
>no u

>> No.64309403

>>64309206
You are correct but even long time members don't watch every streams. Like actually talk to the active fans in discord or twitter and you realize a lot don't actually watch all of the content their oshi churn out. Fans would likely just skip out on the male collabs if they don't like it.

>> No.64309405

can't trust gals after that one really good gal manga went full NTR because the publisher was axing the series

>> No.64309407

>>64308872
Shut up American, stop crying about this

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>>64301180
anon
people DO watch ririka
a lot...

>> No.64309446

>>64309405
Which series? I never heard of this.

>> No.64309469

>>64309446
was one of the recent ones, don't think it was gal gohan all I remember is one of the modern gal manga series just went NTR because the mangaka was mad the series got axed early

>> No.64309484

>>64303313
>> Rather than be silent and ignoring the elephant in the room, I wanted to convey my feelings.
People will praise her for this then in the same breath they'll shit on unicorns for expressing their own feelings.
>> Rather than saying "I love you" to girls who don't know males and never interact with males, surely it's a lot better when she knows a bunch of guys, but only loves YOU right?
Many people are, evidently, not into this. She isn't even the first streamer to try this, there was no reason to experiment with her fambase like this. This isn't even exclusive to men either. Both genders, especially when watching streamers, and even more especially vtubers, get very possessive over them. This isn't news, it's a well-known fact the top streamers know about. Her approach does have an audience, but her handling of it was a giant rookie mistake.
>> It's fine, I'll revive them with my ASMR.
This is the cherry on top. Even if it is true, this is not something you say out loud. Now it won't even work the way she expected, because unicorns will know it's a sham and won't tune in, much less return to her.
I don't hate her but I am disappointed, and I can only wish her luck, away from the Hololive main branches.

>> No.64309532

>>64308872
You're a child. When your balls finally drop and you're forced to face the real world you might finally learn.

>> No.64309638

>>64309532
no, you are a child, throwing a tantrum over your lack of understanding of basic facets of human psychology, most likely due to the fact of how deeply the modern culture tried to dehumanize you and strip away belief in choice and directing your own life
I pity you

>> No.64309712

>>64308872
>quickly becomes an enemy
she will do an ASMR stream and you'll know who it's for

>> No.64309716

>>64309638
>no u
nice one, I'm sure he's crying rn

>> No.64309814

>>64309716
I don't think him (or you) are even capable of feeling sad for the sorry state you were left in, trapped in permanent immaturity, taught that life is just a set of rules and restrictions you have to strictly obey so the man at the top generously throws some leftovers your direction
but trying to push everyone into living that way is even more dire

>> No.64309967

Only those who give updates on their period like IRyS are unicorn friendly

>> No.64310035

>>64309638
you know, your style of writing is similar to that one anon who got assblasted by one (1) mori post on catalog

>> No.64310107

>>64309261
I'm firmly in the "unicorn" camp, despite not being an actual unicorn myself. That's what makes this situation so confusing for some people. We may all have different reasons for disliking male collabs, but in practice our preferences are nearly identical.

>>64309279
I don't watch Mori or Bae outside of collabs so it's hard to comment on that directly, but the problem is that it's usually going to be referred to in future streams and influence the atmosphere of the streams regardless. It also opens the door to more fans who enjoy that type of content, which may direct the course of the channel going forward.
I'd rather just watch someone who doesn't do any of that. It's easier and more enjoyable.

>>64309403
I don't watch every single stream already. I'd rather not add the occasional homo collab to the list when it could have been something that I enjoyed instead. And like I said to the other poster, these things are unfortunately not possible to contain in a vacuum. The interactions will influence the atmosphere, even if only subtly at first. That's why I have an almost zero-tolerance policy towards this.
Truth be told, if it was my only choice I'd probably accept it. (Or just find another hobby.) But there are so many other holos who cater to my preference. That makes the choice easy.

>> No.64310429

>>64309638
Alright, let's talk about it then. Children usually have the response you described, to automatically swerve directly against authority and do the exact opposite thing they're being told to do in demonstration. By the time they've become adults though, they've usually learned that following instructions is often a good idea and sometimes essential. (Like abiding by the law for example.)
What is your argument exactly? That viewers shouldn't make their preferences known because it will somehow force the streamer to do the exact opposite thing because they're incapable of controlling their own actions? Does that not sound ridiculous to you?
The reason I called you a child is because you seem like you were traumatized by having to follow some basic safety precautions during the pandemic.

>> No.64310491

>>64310107
You've rationalized it well but you and I both know that you wouldn't give a shit if you hadn't spent hundreds of hours on /vt/ adopting positions from autistic schizoposters through osmosis. It's not about the collabs, it's about the ingroupn /vt/ identity

>> No.64310801

>>64303313
Based gyaru

>> No.64310839

>>64310107
Most fans are like you.

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>>64305379
>focused around a particular goal
That's basically what I was seeing myself watching the stream. All of the encounters with the e-celebs or male vtubers were just very shorthanded and brief interactions to get something done (e.g. the time she got fucking scammed and incidentally gave a right hook to the guy's face before running away with her friend). So far she's only been sticking with her gang of girls and only set up a pizzeria with one of them.

All of this comes down to one conclusion: /vt/ is an infested pool of dramafags and faggots looking for the slightest trickle of rrat building and will cling to it for dear life while trying to get a drop of attention out of it. That, and I'm tired, I should be sleeping.

>> No.64311559

>>64304871
Suisei

>> No.64312017

>>64303313
>Rather than saying "I love you" to girls who don't know males and never interact with males, surely it's a lot better when she knows a bunch of guys, but only loves YOU right?
My wife fucks a lot of men but in the end she comes back to me. This makes me the real chad btw.

>> No.64312414

>>64310491
Is it really so hard to believe that some people enjoy gender-segregated entertainment?

>> No.64312804

>>64303809
>Botan lost a good chunk of her viewership
Her fighting game coaching and competition streams are all doing better only beaten by 3D lives. Why do you lie?

>> No.64313445

>>64308515
>>64308567
the catalog is two people.

>> No.64314094

>>64305379
>immediately jump to some NTR scenario
Mostly because it's being forced by unicorn anti's with the explicit purpose of making it known that they are not welcome in the community. Despite you know, being the primary source of revenue for the industry as a whole. Who else is willing to shell out 150+ USD on a figurine? And then another 100~ for a pillow case? And then, and then, and then you get it. But the retard outsiders don't understand that. They don't finance this hobby, the unicorns do.
Another part of it might be actual cucks who are fucking pissed over their "fetish" turning into a joke. And they look for any and all situations to intentionally overuse/misuse the insult cuck so that people will get sick of it the same way that nazi is being over used into indifference.
go ahead and call me a cuck even though i never said i was a unicorn. Or is the fag replying to this going to gaslight with "hurr meds, schizo" Keep thinking no one is noticing what you're doing. Idiots.

>> No.64314625

>Board barely talks about Ririka at all
>Suddenly board in flames over Ririka betraying them

It's almost as if unicorns are just reverse SJWs or something.

>> No.64315330

>>64301180
inb4 unicorns never existed at all

>> No.64316045

>>64314094
> not welcome
Please gtfo. This culture is built on the blood and cum of unicorns. Faggots like you should unironically go back.

>> No.64316213

>>64316045
And other things unicuckolds tell themselves to justify their actions

>> No.64316242

>>64316045
Unibro you love has blinded your reading comprehension. I'm not saying you're not welcome here, I'm saying that's what other idiots are trying to make you think!

>> No.64316445

>>64303313
> Rather than saying "I love you" to girls who don't know males and never interact with males, surely it's a lot better when she knows a bunch of guys, but only loves YOU right?
fucking BASED

>> No.64316610

>>64312017
>see your woman with other dudes
>think she's immediately cucking you
in your head you know you are inadequate and hence insecure. a lot of domestic violence cases have your mindset.

>> No.64316623

>>64299948
Really, I mean according to you faggots kronii should be suffering economically for playing videos games and since homobeggars don't buy shit according to all of you hut dwellers then who's sending her super chats and buying her memberships and merch. Couldn't be the gachi or unicorns since they're so fed up with her lmao, same thing will happen to this girl everyone outside of this shit hole fish market site will move on and you fags will continue to seethe until you die.

>> No.64316838

>>64315330
I'll bite; most "unicorn" shit here is larping. As with any patently ridiculous belief, most people who purport to believe it are just shitposting.

>> No.64317070

There it is hahaha

>> No.64317824

>>64316623
Kronii's merch sales fell off a cliff after the homo drama and her viewership suffered as well, I am sure you will have some cope lined up like
>It was the shipping
or
>she does well when she plays fotm and not indie games
But she went from unquestioningly the top council to lagging well behind Fauna and Mumei. Doing better now though.
>I mean according to you faggots kronii should be suffering economically
She is still a holo and has a god tier voice, no holo is truly going to "suffer" so at the end of the day they can do what they want despite it making an impact on their earnings.

I am not sure why you replied to my post about Ririka bringing up Kronii anyyway, Ririka admitted her "jokes" about using ASMR to lure people back were in bad taste and apologised herself which was all I was saying there.
Her about face is also only days old, give it a few weeks after she is done with the three times weekly VCR streams and compare her SC numbers and viewership to before and grudgepost me if you want to prove a point I don't give a fuck.

>> No.64318826

>>64316045
True. I schizod out. Upon actually reading I realized. Fuck anti unicorn assholes. Apologies.

>> No.64319481

>>64305379
>she's not going to go beyond friendly but impersonal conversation and jokes with any guys
You can't control how far the ecelebs decide to go though so you end up with "jokes" like these.
https://youtu.be/JBCTLjsOwaw?feature=shared&t=43

>> No.64319751

>>64291561
>She was right
That remains to be seen on her ASMR stream

>> No.64321076

>>64316610
I bet your wife loves very much.

>> No.64322108

>>64317824
Her CCV was literally the exact sam in the months following the collabs and she still had the most members in Council before her multiple extended breaks late 2022/first half of 2023. Summer 2022 Mumei and Fauna were already beating her indie games, where the CCV was always about the same, bar the first few months of Kronii’s career.
The merch sold poorly because it looked like cheap crap, the shipping costs were outrageous, and Kronii literally shilled it a single time before returning to her break.

>> No.64323116

>>64312017
ok destiny

>> No.64323562

>>64305379
At the end of the day, it's more about how you feel about collab no? Some guys can collab with girls you watch and you'll think it's whatever, some will push the line but girl obviously will push them away and thats fine too, sometimes there is obvious thing in the air where they enjoy each other a lot, so naturally unicorns will get jealous, and people will dunk on them with cuckshit, or those same unicorns start thinking about cuck scenarios

>> No.64323937

>>64312414
It's kind of funny, that you get ridiculed for not wanting chuuba interact/play/collab with dudes, I'm thinking about it, I wouldn't want my dota streamer guy who is all bros with chat, constant bro jokes, collab with some girl where he has to filter himself, or even worse he would come onto her, it's just not the type of content I would enjoy, if you wanna watch that type of content, watch nijisanji idk
Also women are retarded and bad at videogames, when you have a man playing with them, it's like watching a retard competing with a normal person.

>> No.64325106

>>64323116
Don't ever call me by that cuck's name ever again.

>> No.64325357

>>64303590
Receding gums are hot.

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