/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>Gura sing
https://youtu.be/ng_Vrp7vFAw
>IRyS sing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASZHzQ5w0OM

IRyS BTFO

[Anonymous No.]

Wow, thanks for proving that Irys mogged Gura, again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6377530
>chumbud cope

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>>6377530
You literally just proved that IRyS is better than Gura... How can chumbuds be so retarded....

[Anonymous No.]

>>6377530
Her vocal range is quite impressive, Irys I mean, hope she mogs the others in games too

[Anonymous No.]

>>6377530
The demon clearly has superior technique and experience. I don't know why you waste time comparing them when they are leagues apart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6377530
Reminder that Gura gives even less fucks than Kiara about tribalism or numberfagging.

[Anonymous No.]

>irys
professionally trained singer has 10+ years of experience

gets mogged by:

>gura
lazy weeb neet that joined hololive on a whim

[Anonymous No.]

Chumfucks getting more insecure by the minute after a singer way more superior than their shark debuted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6378014
I look forward to Irys singing in a few months when she is used to this and is more relaxed

[Anonymous No.]

>>6378121
>tribadism

[Anonymous No.]

>Anon tells me she covered Only my Railgun
>Checks it out
>Realize I was listening to a Cover, thinking it was the original
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q_sQUK418mM&t=47s
Gura stands no chance

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>Copium the thread

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>>6378347
>cover is boring and soulless
>original is boring and soulless
what is with weebs and their taste in music?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6377530
uhhh you probably shouldnt expose gura like that, chumbud

[Anonymous No.]

>>6378347
>her Renai Circulation is the first thing that shows up when you search for it in youtube.
Why is she in cover?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6377682
>>6377814
>>6377932
>>6378012
>>6378014
>>6378156
>>6379214
Numberfag cope thread
It's ok your oshi doesn't have as many subs there is no reason to be this mad
Also before people cry about the chumbud boogyman .t haaton

[Anonymous No.]

>>6377530
Gura is not as exp[ericned on the technical level
But Gura has soul while Irys is souless as fuck

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>>6379756
oh no no no the buzzwords are coming out

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>>6378347
I don’t like this singing style weeb girls do where they make their voice nasally and unnaturally high pitched
She sounds nice singing live though

[Anonymous No.]

>>6377530
It's not a fair comparison. Gura was not stressed by having to debut with 300k subs after getting massively hyped for.

that said, Gura is still the best.

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>>6377530
Gura sings in a garbage chimpunks voice, stop deluding yourself cumbuds having lot of subs doesn't mean its for her singing, even if Suisei or Kanata had throat cancer they would sing better than her

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>>6380030
she absolutely destroyed gura, what are you talking about? it's obvious when you compare their versions of cruel angel thesis

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>>6380136
>Gura singing a song she doesn't know the lyrics too off a karaoke while sitting down into a streamer mic
>Irys singing a song she practiced for months into a singer mic.
Cope

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>>6377530
Here is the same song comparison:

namirin, fly me to the moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsyg880MFzk

Gura, fly me to the moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82T8yOG5MTk

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>>6377530
i don't care for her voice but i'm far more offended by that godawful excuse for a live2D.

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>>6380253
Ah yes a karaoke where Gura is learning to play the uke vs a heavily edited cover very nice comparison.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6380253
was gura's singing always this lifeless or is it just me? is this the effect of listening to an actual pro?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6378121
>less fucks than Kiara
there are few who don't give less fucks. why use such a high bar?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6380253
Gura wins 1000% holy fuck
Namarin sounds like an alien who doesn't grasp the concept of emotion

[Anonymous No.]

>>6380425
Amazing how she sounds worse with all that editing than Gura literally just fucking around in a karaoke.

[Anonymous No.]

this has to be a falseflag, no way chumkeks are this retarded, gura would hate you fucks comparing her to others

[Anonymous No.]

>>6377530
I actually like gura, but Irys sounded better, even if her song was covered to death.

Don't fanboy so hard it breaks your ears.

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>>6378347
oh shit, i've listened to this one before because it's the top result on youtube. as good as that sounds i still prefer gura.

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>>6377530
Gura is better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6380253
Nice! gura sounds amazing

[Anonymous No.]

>>6380519
chumbuds arent satisfied unless everyone sees gura as the best. there's already a few singers in hololive that are better, but they refuse to accept it. they are the most tribalist fanbase by far.

[Anonymous No.]

I like both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6380357
>Ah yes a karaoke where Gura is learning to play the uke vs a heavily edited cover very nice comparison
Well I posted it because it’s the same song. Oddly, Gura still did better anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6380652
embarrassing really

[Anonymous No.]

>>6380604
I'm not saying Gura is the best, she got pretty mogged in the Sorairo Days collab

[Anonymous No.]

>>6380604
>there's already a few singers in hololive that are better
fake and gay, cope faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

The only real question is can they harmonize. I will be fucking pissed if the chicken or the wigger gets to have a cover collab with her. Which will 100% happen. FFS GURA. YOU CAN SING WITH BETTER PEOPLE NOW THAT UNDERSTANDS YOUR ONLY LANGUAGE.

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>>6377530
The girls don’t care about who sings better between themselves, they all appreciate each other. just enjoy.

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>>6380136
is it really not obvious enough for you how she panicked and messed it up at the start and then several other parts? Does 1:48 sound to you like what a professional singer should be doing?

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>>6378733
I'll never forgive the cumbuckets for doing this, what the fuck is wrong with them

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>>6380253
welp, I had my hopes up

Isn't this roommate posting tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>6380752
chumbuds, classy as ever

[Anonymous No.]

>>6380813
Die mad faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>6380763
>The girls don’t care about who sings better between themselves
you have not worked hard to get good at something ever in your life

[Anonymous No.]

>>6379510
yeah,keep acting aloof about how much you got fucked in the ass with that nonsensical comparison

[Anonymous No.]

Has the vsinger debut, perhaps, led to some controversy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6380830
It’s VTuber vs VTuber

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>>6377530
Gura shines better in English songs while Irys has much better Japanese.
Gura's voice is almost as unique as KAF (she should polish it more) while Irys is just your average good anisong singer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6380898
>controversy
No one is retarded enough to doubt Gura's godlike singing, don't worry. This thread is bait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6380931
this

[Anonymous No.]

chumkeks retardation is off the charts again

[Anonymous No.]

>>6380931
Gura = a chipmunk with no vocal range and you're deluded cumshart

[Anonymous No.]

>>6380931
Gura has atrocious range. She's not a good singer. Compared to Suisei, Kanata and Nene shes mid tier in terms of technical skill.

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>>6378144
>implying IRyS is professionally trained
She started off as some rando singing on NND just like every other utaite.

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly, why compare IRyS to Gura instead of other Holo like Suisei or AZKi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6381011
>>6381021
>chipmunk
>no range
>not a good singer
did someone eat too many crayons again? hmmm?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6381011
>Gura has no vocal range
She does though. Example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4muRkNPuQco

[Anonymous No.]

>>6381073
Because it is Hololive EN you retard.

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>>6381073
The people comparing her to Gura only have Gura as their frame of reference most likely. They're ironic weeaboos who don't watch any of the JP holos except for clips and maybe when there's some big event.

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>>6381110
You really wanna repeat that thread again?

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>>6381073
Gura fanss only watch Gura so they don't realize she's only mid tier in terms of singing in Hololive

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>>6380519
Course it is literally no chumbuds talk like that they're all false flaggers all over this board.
Chumbud boogyman posting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6381011
COPE
>>6381021
its not all about tech skill, you aspie. soul is unironically a huge part of singing.
>>6381175
>quora

[Anonymous No.]

>>6381175
>I have no argument
Then why reply

[Anonymous No.]

>>6381212
>soul is unironically a huge part of singing.
Then Noel is the best singer in Hololive. And frankly I wouldn't characterize anything Gura does as soul. Being soulless is literally her brand at this point. A nihilistic gremlin who feels success is a burden and lives in her own filth. That's the antithesis of soul.

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>>6381175
kek chumbuds please

[Anonymous No.]

>>6381149
>>6381201
It's not like I have the the music industry of the entire planet to compare her to or anything...
oh wait, I do, Irys is still mediocre

[Anonymous No.]

>>6381149
Actually it's because those jp girls that got mentioned are on different calliber and that would be unfair

[Anonymous No.]

>not even using the same song for both
wal-mart bait/10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaN0n4F19Rk

[Anonymous No.]

>>6381149
>>6381201
It didn't look like chumkeks were the ones immediately jumping to comparisons in the IRyS threads, Anons.
Seems more to me like the turbo-weebs who can't stand EN in general are just trying to start shit as usual.

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>>6381275
It’s obvious subjective to say X is best singer, which is why you cannot get agreement. I personally don’t think any of them fall under the “good” label. Having said that, I don’t view IRyS as VSinger worthy. Neither is Gura. By comparison to the same song, Gura appears better to me. But it’s opinion.

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>>6381423
didn't you know, anon? everything stated here is complete indisputable fact

[Anonymous No.]

>>6380999
>>6381011
>>6381021
>>6381149
>>6381175
>>6381201
>>6381275
>>6381294
>>6381351
Cope

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jQPwxP83Oo

[Anonymous No.]

>>6381423
I personally don’t think any of them fall under the “good” label.
This is a statement that is factually true and yet also completely meaningless. "Good" singing no longer exists outside of disciplines like opera and musical theater where performance ability still matters; everything else is unfortunately just varying degrees of smoke and mirrors audio engineering.

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>>6380931
Don't involve Kamitsubaki in this holo tribalism. If you think the thread is bad now, wait until they show up.

[Anonymous No.]

IRyS is obviously more technically skilled with a much larger range.
That being said, Gura's voice has an alluring quality. It has a charming/unique factor to it that makes it very pleasant to listen to.

Like people have said in the thread above, IRyS is more of a skilled typical anisong singer. Gura sounds more like a sweet indie singer or something.

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>>6380253
What’s this “technical skill” irysfags are bringing up? Because this cover sounds flat as hell, like she’s just following the lyrics and the notes, and doesn’t understand the emotions the song is supposed to convey at all. Meanwhile, Gura totally gets it; the way she draws out and ends notes + that little “aishiteru”, it genuinely sounds like she’s in love with me when she sings. Not even a cumbud, but Gura’s singing just sounds a lot more natural to me.

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>>6381691
>irys
>range
pick one

[Anonymous No.]

gura has a nice voice but she sings like she's dead inside

https://files.catbox.moe/hxbfko.mp4

[Anonymous No.]

Sorry anon, my oshi mogs your oshi at singing any day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6380931
this
/thread

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>>6381885
what a cute menhera shark!

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>>6381885
>Gura has clinical psychopahy
I beleeb.

[Anonymous No.]

am gonna shitpost that irys is better singer than gura and you cannot stop me cumbuds

[Anonymous No.]

>>6381653
But my statement wasn’t factually true, because what is good is still subjective. I agree with you though, that many don’t appear good to us.

I do think Gura has a nice sounding voice though, even if her ability isn’t at a technical level. But how is that graded? It’s obviously opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

irys did a song for some anime ED already, i wonder if anyone else has done the same

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>>6377530
Gura is cuter, has a better voice, and sings better. It's one of the reasons she's at 3 mil subs. No need to be a contrarian about it.

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>>6377530
If Gura isnt such a lazyass and actually doing her vocal reps she could be as popular and good as KAF or RIM or even ad uniqie as Ado! But welp untill then she'll just be that one friend with exceptional voice.

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>>6382038
not a very strong argument when there are so many very popular things that are objectively trash

[Anonymous No.]

>5 of 6 EN girls sang Cruel Angel's Thesis
Who's going to make the edit?

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>>6382103
good thing Gura isn't objectively trash then, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6382157
neither is she objectively good. even within hololive she's not even close to being the best singer or the best streamer. but chumbuds insist in using numbers as absolute proof that she is the best.

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>>6381854
>What’s this “technical skill” irysfags are bringing up?
Don’t know. Both Gura and IRyS aren’t great singers. But if someone suggest that IRyS is better than Gura, just show a same song comparison,
Ike the fly me to the moon song. It’s pretty obvious that Gura sounds better to most people, even if not everyone will agree. I think most will.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6381175
ah yes quora, the most credible site for vocal technique

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>>6381854
>What’s this “technical skill” irysfags are bringing up?
It's cope
Just like chumbuds being insecure and having to make up shit to defend her while they can just post 2 links like that anon did and they'll do all the work for them

[Anonymous No.]

Gura has soul and thus Gura wins

[Anonymous No.]

>>6381175
Wasn't this image already debunked since Adele and Gura have similar ranges?
dogfuckerchama...

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>>6382489
so gura is on the same level as ame now? that bad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6382646
Soul > Everything else
Even technique

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>>6382692
what did gura ever do to deserve this fanbase?

[Anonymous No.]

Gura has the voice of someone who sang casually for most of her life.

IRyS has the voice of someone who never gave a shit about singing, but picked it up when she didn't know what else to do with her life.

Simple as.

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>>6382747
She is cute and funny

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>>6382646
Soul doesn't mean "It's bad but I like it", it means it's not shallow and it evokes emotions. Ame and Noel are not tryhards in singing, they just try their best, hence why their streams are enjoyable for their fanbases.
>>6382747
Exist.

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>>6382786
IRyS has the voice of someone who was forced to take singing lessons as a child and was beaten when she messed up

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>>6381854
>she’s just following the lyrics and the notes, and doesn’t understand the emotions the song is supposed to convey at all.
That's what mostly said anon. Technically IRyS can hit the notes given to her in the text perfectly/ez but she lack soul and uniqness to, lets say, give that text a taste of her own. That's why Gura > generic IRyS.
t.Vsingerfag

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>>6382814
what an insult to literally everyone else who does karaoke. they all evoke plenty of emotion, they just don't suck. get the fuck out with this shit, teacucks.

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>>6382844
Actually, I think IRyS has shown plenty of soul, as well as superb singing skills, even if all we had to judge was just one song. I'm not afraid to admit she's much better than Gura, and I say that as a Chumbud.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6382894
> they all evoke plenty of emotion, they just don't suck
Except Irys' performance was absolutely soulless, it's just yeah a singer that sings good... And? Is music supposed to be a challenge? No, it's supposed to make you feel things. She has talent but she has no soul.
>>6382786
This anon is actually right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6382894
You can have SOUL and be good
You can have SOUL and be bad
Having SOUL doesn't mean you are bad at singing but having SOUL means your singing is enjoyable. That is why despite your friend sounding like a dying goat when you go to the karaoke, you still are having fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6383038
this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6383038
your buzzword is literally meaningless, brainwashed teakek. literally every other girl brings more emotion into their karaoke, they just also happen to not sound like a dying dog, unlike ame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6378144
>chumcel cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>6383116
I honestly never listened to Amelia's karaoke. I only tune in when Suisei, Gura, Rushia and Watame are singing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6382974
Here you go: >>6380253

[Anonymous No.]

>>6381175
2 octaves used in this song (E3-E5)

but gura can hit higher notes, for example C6+ https://youtu.be/BQTSqFLeIPM (or go lower than E3) it's not that hard anon...

>literally 3 octave+ vocal range

[Anonymous No.]

>>6377530
IRyS has better technique and control, but she also sounds quite generic and there are millions of singers like her. Gura has something unique that makes me want to listen to her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6383178
I hear more of a C#

[Anonymous No.]

I'm definitely go taking 4chan's opinion on this matter seriously.
Who could have been insight here than a bunch of beta males who've spent more time fapping than singing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6382974
Anon.. you can hear it in most her karaoke stream. I dont say she doesnt have soul but she lack it since IRS/namirin most of the time focus more on singing the song correctly instead of the singing the songs "right".

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>>6383178
we're really reaching high levels of concentrated copium now. a scream is not fucking singing. show her doing it a song and actually doing it properly before making bullshit claims

[Anonymous No.]

>>6382028
https://streamable.com/r9we82

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/XH_JzT_sAgM
Anya is in fact, the best singer in HoloEN.
No, you may not argue, my reality substitutes your own.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6383482
she sounds good but why does it sound like its 144p

[Anonymous No.]

>>6383621
screen recorded and then sent through the grinder trying to bring down the file size to fit to shitty streamable's limit

[Anonymous No.]

you schizos are just plain retarded, please stop posting

[Anonymous No.]

>>6383588
>Not posting her best cover
anon...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRgde186ni8

[Anonymous No.]

>>6383178
>Two Octaves PTSD

[Anonymous No.]

autism the thread

[Anonymous No.]

I hope they both get a vocal coach.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6383456
>faqqqqqqqq
>it's scream !!
lol antis are coping hard now. btw we are talking about vocal range not the singing ability retard.

if you want, here is a B5 notes https://youtu.be/m8AG0OV1QCI?t=239

[Anonymous No.]

>>6383195
Lol they're both "generic", not to say they aren't great singers but they're not unique at all, from the singing holos suisei towa and risu can be classified as unique

[Anonymous No.]

Why are idiots comparing different songs? Or even worse, live vs recorded + edited? At least provide the correct links

Gura https://youtu.be/UaN0n4F19Rk
Irys https://youtu.be/WTU3TIZRUCM?t=3039

[Anonymous No.]

OP doesn't know what vibrato is, Gura uses it well but when it comes to technique and range Irys blows her out the water, and look it's ok if you like guras voice, i like it too but realistically speaking irys is a much better singer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6381854
>What’s this “technical skill” irysfags are bringing up?
IRyS is better at belting than Gura is, but Gura sounds better in pretty much every other respect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6380357
>Ah yes a karaoke where Gura is learning to play the uke
Gura is not playing the guitar here, you idiot. That's a backing track.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6384005
No one remembers the name of X and Y singers that have near perfect technique but only use it mechanically for professional recordings.
That's the problem people have with her, in any case it was probably just nerves and not wanting to fuck up. I'll hold my judgement until karaoke. Or even better, members karaoke if it ever happens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6380253
irys voice is best fit for japanese pop/rock music

[Anonymous No.]

>>6384005
>comes to technique…
Point to it. You’re saying vibrato isn’t technique?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6381885
The end always gets me every time, like she's staring into my soul.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6383877
thanks. irys definitely wins this one song, at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6384169
>reading comprehension
NTA, but I think he's referring to the fact that she can apply her technical skills correctly, on call, over a wider range of her voice.

The biggest probpem most of the girls have is the fact that they try to sing songs outside of their range.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6384997
Link an example of the difference between them. Here is a side by side comparison of the same song (how is Gura failing?): >>6380253

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>>6385153
I dunno what it is about the way she sings but Irys just sounds so much sharper and not in a good way. Almost grating. I get that it might be more technical but it sounds fucking awful to me. Gura's wasn't the best rendition but at the very least it doesn't hurt my fucking ears when she tries to belt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6378733
context?

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>>6385508
She’s has strange sibilant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6385508
IRyS sounds more high pitched, but doesn’t show much range from there. If you ask people to show you a clip of this great range between low and high, they wont be able to. At least I haven’t seen it so far. Listening to IRyS is very robotic, same pitch (even if higher), with no great depth or adjustments to it, and no “soul” as people say. Nothing to grab you. Nothing stands out.

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>>6380136
Irys mogs gura in Japanese songs because Gura doesn't speak Japanese, she doesn't have a full command of the songs because of that. Lets see them both sing in English and then decide who is better. Probably Fly Me to the Moon is the best comparison we can get.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6381885
Gura is dead inside.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6385153
>Link an example of the difference between them.
>points to a recording vs a karaoke
No, let's not. Assuming we use >>6383877, then Gura has both a technical and language disadvantage, so we may have to wait until IRyS sings a song Gura already sang (or vice-versa) or until they have a duo singing act.

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>>6377530
Same song comparison (Plastic Love).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k1ba4mfSH0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMo8XUQq5rI

[Anonymous No.]

>>6386389
gura can't stop winning

[Anonymous No.]

>>6386389
They both sung it well but I feel like Namirin's take on it does a better job of capturing the song's original mood.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6386389
>mariya's voice in the back carrying gura during the last section
wait, you can do that? isn't that cheating?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6378144
>mogs both without even trying

[Anonymous No.]

>>6385691
what? again? when will you stop coming here fucking tourists???

[Anonymous No.]

>>6386389
Namirin sang better and was more comfortable. Holy shit her 2D rig was better here. Fucking hell

[Anonymous No.]

>>6381110
She struggles a lot on the lower octave so I don't know what you're trying to prove.

They're singing styles are different but Irys is probably better

Gura = Headvoice
Irys = Headvoice and Diaphram

[Anonymous No.]

>>6386389
I prefer gura's version but it doesn't mean IRyS version bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>6386389
Both have it down pretty good but Gura got that cute gremlin voice while Namirin sounds normal

[Anonymous No.]

>>6386389
I hate her voice (namirin) it sounds like an 8 year old trying to be cute. Listen to Moona for example, she's much better cause her voice is stronger and doesn't sound like a toddler yelling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6386687
But you're on 4chan and you can't like more than one thing. So you better pick a side or people are going to mock you.v

[Anonymous No.]

this is like watching two retards fight.

Risu is better than both. And she doesn't even try, or sing regularly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6383060
>>6386518
is this a joke? why do people keep posting a song that's literally 3 years old

if that's your idea of a comparison, then you should have no problem posting this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7QNX9GbEmY

[Anonymous No.]

>>6386647
I've been here before the fucking board was made, I just don't remember this one shit you fart-sniffing cuntmoggler.

[Anonymous No.]

Vtubers will always be trash at anything

[Anonymous No.]

Why do you people keep falling for shitty cow threads?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6386924
Because you're being baited by shitposters

[Anonymous No.]

>>6386957

Because 4chan

[Anonymous No.]

I don’t really have a stake in this since I don’t really care about either, but every time I’ve heard gura she reminds me of those basic white bitches that /mu/ makes fun of who think they’re hot shit because they can play the ukelele when they’re just lukewarm shit. Fitting considering gura actually does play the ukelele. Imagine shrimping for the absolute lowest common denominator of internet vocalist lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>6386863
Shut up, Risu. You don't even do karaoke streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>6386389
mogged by an amateur singer damn

[Anonymous No.]

>>6387135
/mu/ is a bunch of loser who think liking obscure music make them cool.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6386674
>sings perfectly in pitch
>struggle

anon pls

[Anonymous No.]

>>6386932
tldr.
Chumcucks went to Fubuki's chat to mock her because Gura beated her in numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>6386924
It's bait, no shit it's not a fair comparison.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6387269
my worst fears... don't want to see my oshi hurt cuz of some socially autistic pajeets

[Anonymous No.]

>>6387269
it upsets me

[Anonymous No.]

>>6378347
That's not her you faggot

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/cfnLTmFeFJI
Gura wins, she sang Rasputin song.
Get fucked everyone.

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>>6387135
>Using /mu/ as some standard
Get back in there you hipster shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>6388271
Sorry, but /mu/ knows soul when they see it
https://youtu.be/h0B7Z3JERdk

[Anonymous No.]

>>6387269
Holy shit, why are chumbuds so retarded ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6382828
did she get wet when she was spanked?

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>>6386389
How did her model go from this to the abomination Cover gave her? Even if you somehow think it looks fine, it doesn't suit her voice at all.

[Anonymous No.]

So we agree then?

Gura > IRyS > Kiara > Mori > Ame > Ina

[Anonymous No.]

>>6387846
yeah it is dude you are gonna find out the hard way eventually

[Anonymous No.]

>>6386389
Literally the point of a cover is to put a spin on the song, singing it like original is stealing...
Fucking hell, I know Japanese music industry, but come on.

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>>6388513
>Hard way
She already scheduled Apex stream
Dead on arrival.

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>>6386389
Anyone who says Namirins version is better is insane. She doesn't have nearly as much passion while singing and can't hit nearly as high of notes. She puts absolutely no power into anything while singing. It just comes off generic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6380422
KFP delude themselves with the idea that Kiara doesn't care about numbers as a way to cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6388472
idk they all cute. that all that matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6387846
Aww... Retardchama

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I don't even think its fair to make a comparison right now.
Irys did such a boring song, and I don't know if it was because the song is so overdone and overblown that I felt nothing from it or not, but I'll wait till I see more before making a decision.
Versus when EN first debut I expected them all to be failures and Gura pulled out something that was shocking and at least got some emotional response.

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>>6388535
t. Demetori
No one likes your shit metal remixes, get over it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6388666
Cope

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>>6388427
>How did her model go from this to the abomination Cover gave her?
Presumably, Cover's plans for Project Hope (and all the chuuni nonsense associated with it) took precedence over everything else.

It's entirely possible that they already knew what the character's setting and artist would be, and Nami simply didn't have much choice or input in the matter.

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>>6385851
>>6388619
Her singing sounds sterile, don't get me wrong she's a great singer but compare her to Suisei and you'll notice the difference.

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>>6380497
Exactly Gura's singing is like 75% fucking around and she still is a solid singer. I don't understand why there's comparison. One is a professional singer fluent in japanese and the other is picking random songs for shits and giggles because chat requests them. if we are going to compare anything it should be cuteness and Gura wins that shit hands down

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>>6381201
Wrong I actually watch a lot of the other girls. I just dont enjoy the overproduced singing. Just give me my oshi and her uke over anyone else it's more comfy anyways.

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>>6388819
>compare her to Suisei
And if we compare her to a pre-recorded vacuum cleaner at max rev, she sounds amazing. Any other pointless, irrelevant, and literal-who tier references you wanna add for a comparison?

[Anonymous No.]

Unfair comparison. Moona vs IRyS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydBFvAX1rqQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANecbmc8kys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErDkJExE3io

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>>6389329
Compare her to Risu then you assblasted faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>6377530
SERIOUSLY WHAT THE FUCK?
SHE LOOKS LIKE THE 56% MUTT MEME

[Anonymous No.]

>>6377530
kneel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_qMK1dNIh8

[Anonymous No.]

>>6377530
People are still arguing about this?
Listen to this, it kills the chumkeks
https://files.catbox.moe/4jhkgi.mp3

[Anonymous No.]

>>6391647
pure sex

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>>6391647
damn...

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compare any vtuber to Ado, there's no comparison

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>>6378347
wait, what?
>Realize I was listening to a Cover, thinking it was the original
hahaha, same

[Anonymous No.]

>>6379229
Company's network and sponsor's money.

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I like how no one is even comparing IRyS to Mori. kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>6379229
Views alone don't bring money but they can be used as a negotiation tool.

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https://youtu.be/da-hgjuZFkU

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>>6388646
>Irys did such a boring song, and I don't know if it was because the song is so overdone and overblown that I felt nothing from it
No soul to it.

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>>6386389
Sounds like Gura is having fun while singing, namirin just feels emotionless to me.

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>>6391997
Mori herself said that she thinks her singing isn't that good and that she prefers rapping.

Didn't stop her doing the Hololive Alt song, obviously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6389521
Moona > IRyS > Gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>6391647
My heart is melting...

[Anonymous No.]

>>6391647
Shivers down my back

[Anonymous No.]

>>6391647
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.]

>>6388332
/mu/ knows jack shit about shit, fuck off back to your board hipster

[Anonymous No.]

>>6388332
>Sorry, but /mu/ knows soul when they see it
LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

Scout mogs both of them

[Anonymous No.]

>>6391647
why not 320? Low quality audio btfo of music thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>6386687
No, but as a dedicated vsinger she should be head and shoulders above regular holos.

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>>6379510
>Girl who just came out has less subs than the most popular hololive en
Shocking isn't it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6380830

is past-roommate posting something forbidden here? that's news to me. I thought the bannable offenses are on IRL / faces / names / addresses, not other online vtuber accounts from the past.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6395075
It's not unless you're bring up the v-tuber's past as anti in which case you might get a ban/warning for trolling outside of /b/.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are chums so insecure?

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>>6396553
Maybe they are overly defensive since gura was their first and they want people to treat her as the best everything.
If ame ever directly competed against Gura with anything you'd see how some will turn on teammates in a flash.
I think this is all bullshit anyway Gura would never want this bullshit and if she came to /vt/ she would be heartbroken at how this community acts towards eachother.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6377530
Gura has natural talent unlike the other one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6400613
>the other one
Mori?

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>>6400613
are you gonna say gura has more SOUL next?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6400730
Doa

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>>6377530
I get it Gura sure can sing and has a unique voice, but you have to be pretty musically iliterate to think that she is a better singer, Irys has better range, technique, pitch sustenance, enunciation and breath control.
Gura is good but you chumbuds coping and trying to compare the two unironically is making her look bad.

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>>6377530
Irys original song: SOUL
Gura original song: Souless.

This is fact.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6401555
>buzzwords
>I'm smoort
Listen to this and beware the heart melting giggles
https://youtu.be/kpeDiy2A6sU

[Anonymous No.]

>>6392807
retard

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>>6401555
Her english singing is god awful though? How can you possible think her Amalee tier anime girl dub singing can even compete with Gura? Atleast when she sings japanese she's a solid A-tier but even the japanese are saying they should have dropped the money on Gura and Mori over a generic utaite

[Anonymous No.]

>>6402025
I'm checking on Twitter right now and the nips are buying her EP. Mind you that they cqn stream it right now on Spotify but they are choosing to buy the EP because they love it so much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6402116
Or are just being absolute Otakus and buy the merchandise just to have it... to have something like a collection

[Anonymous No.]

>>6402116
It's the EOP that are going to straight to Spotify. Nips are showing support. Just look at her tag #IRyS

[Anonymous No.]

>>6379510.t faggot

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>>6402116
You can do the same for any of the girls when the release an EP twitter is a hug box outside of trolls and anti check 5ch and 2ch for actual opinions

[Anonymous No.]

>>6402189
A lot of them don't even have an oshi mark on their Twitter or does but aren't Holo oshi.

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>>6401555
I wanna be optimistic about IRyS and I really wanna root for her, but I have to admit, even if she is quite skilled, I'm not sure if I'll really dig her music. She's not awful and, honestly, her voice is nice but it's really just painfully generic and her english singing and phrasing reminds me of how the english vocaloid singers have that weird quality to their voice that makes them sound kinda identical.

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>>6402259
And? I don't have twitter and buy merchandise from shit I like even if I don't really need it
Hololive is like pokemon game, you want all the shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>6402253
Twitter shows actual merch proof. It shows the people that do pay attention to the release and Twitter is not a hug box. No internet space is safe to trolls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6402317
>Twitter is not a hug box
Go back there...

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>>6402315
My point is people that don't really have a tribalist view aren't really buying her shit because it's "collectible" It's a digital thing. You can stream it on Spotify. Collections only makes sense as a logic for merch retard.

[Anonymous No.]

imagine not understanding Ina has the most soul

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Chumkeks at it again, in their imaginary world Gura is better than everyone, including Irys, AZki, Moona, Suisei, Risu. They'll even say she's better than Matsuri even if Matsuri completely overshadowed her in their cover together. They're all schizo fucks or falseflaggers just trying to make fanbases fight each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6402360
All of the drama that happened in Holo came from Twitter or was worsened by it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6402392
>thinks collections need to be non digital
>Steam exists

[Anonymous No.]

>>6402433
Drama came from Chinks jumping the wall

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>>6401939
>buzzwords
Anon music is so easy to learn that autists and people with learning disabilities master it all the time so i'm sura a pea brain like you can manage to at least learn the basics
>>6402025
Its almost like i already said that Gura has the unique voice conceding that she indeed has a more generic voice,that was not my point i was talking about singing skills in general
>>6402297
Absolutely fair criticism,mind you that i dont even follow vsingers myself so i'll probably not watch her also but to pretend that she cant sing or that Gura is better because she has a unique voice is silly to me.

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>>6380253
And the original is better than namirin, doesn’t change the fact that Gura is her doing it, not just a soulless imitation of the original.
https://youtu.be/Ixi0sUpLVRc

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>>6402450
You must be on a another level of retardation. This is a streamable song. Limited edition games are locked behind the paywall that you have to buy. You don't have to for this. People still buy it. People are showing proof of it. People are saying they love it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6402531
If she got the skills why she sounds generic? Isn't it the point of mastery of craft to be unique? Hmmmmmm....
Cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>6402601
>bro i drawn with the pencil shoved up my ass ,i can barely do stick figures but i must be a genius because my style is unique.
I accept your concession.

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>>6402710
>Meanwhile artists worse than stick figures are being featured in art galleries.
Yea, I don't see how anyone can't agree.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6377530
Why's iris's eyes so high.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6402297
You just have shit taste bro. Maybe nigger music and justin beiber is more of your style

[Anonymous No.]

>>6402601
People seem to forget how many times others have been eviscerated for simply recreating something instead of elevating it.

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>>6402751
>criticizes art galleries being filled with crappy ''unique'' art over more traditional skillful art
>while defending the singer that has nothing but her unique voice over Irys.
You really didnt think your point thru did ya?

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>>6377530
Gura sounds cuter
IryS has wider range.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6402925
Who says I'm criticizing? That's fucking greentext you newfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>6386863
Yeah, bend over.

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>>6402927
>IryS has wider range.
Point to where you see that. IRyS has an already high pitch without a lower voice, so I don’t see the high range between low and high. It’s something repeated, but never shown or pointed to. Seriously, neither of them demonstrate a wide range. So can people stop pretending?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6403192
Some dumb people are confusing the word pitch with range. If you swap out that word it makes more sense.

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>>6403192
>muh IRyS is better her voice is higher
It’s pretty funny to watch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6397327
>Maybe they are overly defensive since gura was their first and they want people to treat her as the best everything
Or maybe it’s okay to judge the singing of a VSinger?

[Anonymous No.]

IRyS is ugly and her singing is above average. All around waste of resources.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6397327
Bitch please Ame is deaf and even Teammates know it. They just shitpost.

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>>6401555
Most people are going to enjoy both unless they are tribalist retards or fishing for (You)s. My only gripe with Irys is the language, why the fuck is the EN vsinger singing and releasing all her songs in Japanese? Hoping she sings a few English songs in her karaoke at least and that we can expect some English releases down the line.

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>>6403751
She will. Listen to her EP. The remix is bomb. The original is idolish. Diorama is meh. Here comes hopes is awesome. She has range and she obviously sing her heart out. I kind of wished she had a full mv because she sounds great in the full song for caesura of despair

[Anonymous No.]

>>6377530
I like them both.
FUCK TRIBALISM
SHIT MODEL UNITY

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>>6403929
Yea Here Comes Hope is the one I’m looking forward to the most. My fear though is that it’s only going to be three lines of English and the rest Japanese like the Caesura MV. I have not heard the full song yet though so maybe she sings more English in it.

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>>6403751
>why the fuck is the EN vsinger singing and releasing all her songs in Japanese?
That’s very tribalistic of you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6404121
It is shit, that's easy to agree with. That model would looks like it should be in an ad for a shitty empire building moblie game with her saying "I'm waiting to serve you my lord.". At least her tits would be bigger in that type of ad.

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>>6403266
>Some dumb people are confusing the word pitch with range.
The problem is that it’s getting repeated, as other people then copy and repeat the same comment. Only when you ask for them to show you the wide range between low and high for IRyS, do they suddenly begin to understand there isn’t one. That doesn’t make IRyS a bad singer, it just means she is being overhyped in a false way. You could argue the same for Gura, but they seem to focus less on hyping technique and rely more on voice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6404350
It's really not tribalist to expect the English vsinger to sing in English for her first few songs. I still listen to and enjoy Japanese songs by Japanese singers nor did I imply otherwise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6402491
Do newfags really think coco is the only yab that has ever happened

[Anonymous No.]

>>6403192
Shitposters don’t know anything about singing. The range bullshit is pretty easy to follow since they claim Gura has no range so of course Irys has a wider range.
The seamonkey who originally posted that quora screenshot didn’t know what he was arguing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6386649

She went corporate from indie and got a worse model for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>6390505
she really does I thought that mouth was edited in. who the fuck designed her?