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63765477 No.63765477 [Reply] [Original]

How come they are worse than Council?

>> No.63765572

>>63765477
FWMC are gaining on the runt of council. They aren't as amazing as myth but they're looking to do better than council.

>> No.63765742
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>Holo vs Holo
Holo vs Holo
>Holo vs Holo
Holo vs Holo
>Holo vs Holo
Holo vs Holo
>Holo vs Holo
Holo vs Holo
>Holo vs Holo
Holo vs Holo
>Holo vs Holo
Holo vs Holo
>Holo vs Holo
Holo vs Holo

>> No.63765760

>>63765477
Lack of personality overall except maybe for Shiori

>> No.63765770

>worse
They're the best in EN by far.

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>> No.63765913

>>63765477
Why don't enjoy both?

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>> No.63766084

>>63765760
>Shiori
>personality

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>> No.63766194

>>63765854
>>63765913
>>63766138
Once again exposing OP as a faggot. Thanks for your hard (It's not hard at all to expose faggots like OP but it's always funny) work.

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>> No.63766315

>>63765477
They're worse as a group, but as individuals they're better.

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>>63765941
Pomu is about to get bau bau'd in a few hours

>> No.63766542

>>63765477
They are way better, what are you smoking?

>> No.63766558
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>>63766315

>> No.63766669

>>63765477
>Holo vs Holo
How come they are better than Nijisanji?

>> No.63766670

>>63765941
BAU BAU I'M POMU!

>> No.63767157

Council had to go against prime Myth back in the day. They really had to grew the hard way.
Advent didn't. They still need to prove themselves once the novelty buff will fade away.

>> No.63767219

Who the fuck is Council?

>> No.63767469 [DELETED] 

>>63765477
They're boring, they stream too much, and they're overhyped by their zealous fanbase. The only one who has made anything interesting so far has been Nerissa, but she had to bring in her family in to do it. Everything else feels like they're just clocking in to meet their daily stream quotas. They should take some pointers from Myth, maybe even take a brake from streaming for a bit just to plan something out. They haven't really planned any event collabs like Myth and Council had done. All they've been doing is just play video-games, which gets very stale very fast. Obviously they're overworking themselves with the mindset that they have to stream everyday, and it's making their content really boring. Advent fans will hate to hear this, but Advent really needs to take a step back and figure out something that would be actually interesting to watch or else they're going to stagnate and kill their growth. You don't want to stagnate on YouTube. Stagnation is death.

>> No.63767567

>>63765572
>myth
>amazing

>> No.63767904

>>63767567
Why are brats like this?

>> No.63767997

>>63765742
>they are both old men
>they both like THE HAGS
Bros...?

>> No.63768051

>>63765477
Artificial soul

>> No.63768102

>>63767469
A bit wordy, but generally summarizes how I feel as well.

>> No.63768369

>>63767469
>stream too much
we've reached a point where streamers streaming is a bad thing.
>all they've been doing is just play video-games
they literally had a month long movie watchalong collab.

>> No.63768442

>>63765477
They're better than Council, but worse than Promise

>> No.63768452 [DELETED] 

>>63768369
>streamers streaming is a bad thing
Always has been. Nobody likes Twitch except brain-damaged gamers and porn-addicts.

>> No.63768451

>>63766558
This comparison is more fair

>> No.63768666

>>63768452
tell this to the near daily streamers in holo JP making ridiculous amounts of money with huge sponsorships and huge merch deals lmao

>> No.63769696

>>63765477
what the fuck are you talking about? multiple members of council were taking breaks not 2 months into streaming.

by comparison Advent are more successful by a country mile.

>> No.63769791 [DELETED] 

>>63768666
JP fans also complain when there are too many repetitive streams. That's why they do special event streams too.

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>>63769791
>JP fans also complain
source:

>> No.63770194 [DELETED] 

>>63770110
t. EOP

>> No.63770585

>>63767469
The cope from chumbuds has reached critical levels. They're now writing novels of literal drivel to try to cope with their oshi not wanting to stream for them at all.

>> No.63770708 [DELETED] 

>>63770585
You're acting like you actually want Twitch culture to come into Hololive.

>> No.63770891

>>63770708
If you think Advent actually streaming is “bringing Twitch culture” into Hololive, you are so retarded you should be force-fed fluoride until you become a Tempus fan.

>> No.63771097

>>63767469
Myth and Council literally dying due to lack of streams.
Anon here: The new generation should stream less.

>> No.63771414

>>63767469
Innovative streams and events are the secret to success.
It totally worked for Amelia right?
Failing to stream regularly will only benefit tourists like you rather than the dedicated audience that needs to be built over time.

>> No.63771522 [DELETED] 

>>63770891
Streaming boring shit is peak Twitch culture.

>>63771097
When they do stream, their numbers do just fine. Clearly not streaming works.

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>>63767997
Ojisans unironically prefer cute hags because hags are more relatable and believable as wives.
I don't want to listen to a zoomer girl ramble about zoomershit I don't care about.

>> No.63771614 [DELETED] 

>>63771414
>the dedicated audience
More like the autistic audience

>> No.63771714

>>63766558
>bandage
lmao

>> No.63771764

>>63767469
>They're boring
Nope.
>they stream too much
Only FuwaMoco, and they've already cut back. So NOPE.
>and they're overhyped by their zealous fanbase.
Overhyped is a buzzword you're unable to explain.

>> No.63771945 [DELETED] 

>>63771764
Here we have an example of the zealous fanbase.

>> No.63772023

>>63767469
NIJICOEP

>> No.63772247

>>63767469
>STOP STREAMING!! YOU'RE MAKING THE REST OF EN LOOK LIKE LYING BITCHES.
What is this crab bucket mentally cope?

>> No.63772349

>only argument the retard can come up with is stream less
Yeah I think advent is doing just fine

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>>63771945
Better to be zealous than apathetic imo.

>> No.63772423

>>63771531
god yes I want to marry fuwawa and make our kids watch 80s & 90s anime

>> No.63772443 [DELETED] 

>>63772349
Advent is gonna kill itself at this rate.

>> No.63772616

>>63772443
2 more weeks

>> No.63772650 [DELETED] 

>>63772397
None of these vtubers have anything in common except for having a lot of paypigs. Some stream a lot, some hardly stream, some love their fans, some hate their fans. I don't see what your point is.

>> No.63772917

>>63772650
The point is zealous fans are a good thing as they are the lifeblood of vtubers. FuwaMoco themselves have arguably the most "zealous" fanbase in EN, and they regularly top the supa charts.
An apathetic fanbase will not support their oshi as much as a loving zealous fanbase.

>> No.63773168

>>63771531
The only purpose for zoomer girls is to be sex slaves for their hag Mistresses.

>> No.63773319 [DELETED] 

>>63772917
Membership revenue is chump change. The real money is in merch sales, and what you need for merch sales is to become memorable. Streaming the same thing everyday won't make you memorable.

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>>63770708
You don't even watch streams.. Calling the most cgdct friendly and kayfabe gen yet "twitch culture" is maybe the dumbest thing I've read on this forum so far. I must have missed the part where they spam collabs with male twitch e-celebs and lazily watch youtube videos all day saying 2 sentences per minute. You are really grasping at straws here.

Even your stupid claim that all they do is play games is blatantly wrong. FWMC do karaoke every other week. Nerissa does a fair amount too and even invites her sisters to sing along with her which is pretty much a first in hololive. They just finished a month of weekly movie watch along collabs. Shiori does all sorts of weird shit including a bunch of handcams and weird roleplaying/storytelling stuff. Biboo does more collabs than anyone in EN. They've done a bunch of covers. They've all done zatsus. They're the only ones in EN who put any effort into Halloween besides Mumei. Fuwamoco did a fan scary story reading stream. Biboo drew literally dozens of hololive themed candy remixes and taste tested/ranked the candies. Shiori and Nerissa did handcam halloween stuff. Nerissa did a learning japanese stream with Lui. All of advent did a learning japanese collab together. Fuwamoco participated in stuff like a TTRPG. Shiori did a travel vlog. Biboo and Nerissa have done and participated in drawing streams. Fuwamoco do a tri weekly morning news show... And the list goes on.

Yep all they do is play games hurrrdurrr, Gura is much better doing a shill stream once every 3 months and that's literally it. You gottem. And yup it's also "gotten stale fast", they're clearly "stagnate" and totally not making money hand over fist, just ignore the superchat rankings on the left or the tons of memberships they have. https://holochatstats.info/members Peace.

>> No.63773449

>>63767469
Never fucking post on this board ever you again you absloute fucking stupid piece of shit dumbuck delusional piece of shit what the fuck is wrong with you to even post somewthing this fucking stupid?!??!?!?!??!?!?!?!?

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>>63773404

Where Biboo?

>> No.63773720

>>63773319
>Membership revenue is chump change.
This, coupled with superchats, is a chuubas primary source of income anon. They probably get a bigger cut from merch, but the volume isn't NEARLY as big as superchat revenue.

>> No.63773753

>>63773404
Thank you for posting this anon, you have more patience and tolerance for uninformed shitposters than I do.
Eveything you said is 100% true and dumb fucks like OP are completely btfo and invalidated now.
Really good post.

>> No.63773817 [DELETED] 

>>63773404
>They just finished a month of weekly movie watch along collabs
Who the fuck actually wants this? You're so desperate to sell these girls, but you got nothing. Their ideas are trash, and they're only getting superchats now because they're still new.

>> No.63773881

>>63767469
this is actually 100% true but advent fans don't want to hear it

>> No.63773883 [DELETED] 

>>63773720
Now you're just blatantly lying.

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>>63773611
Burnt out

>> No.63773986

>>63773817
>Who the fuck actually wants this?
Me. SotL watch-a-long was kino af.

>> No.63774023

>>63773404
Absolutely based. Maybe if these catalog-shitters actually watched streams, they'd know this.

>> No.63774071 [DELETED] 

>>63773986
You have autism.

>> No.63774154 [DELETED] 

>>63773969
OH NO, SHE WATCHED GURA'S STREAM, THE BURN OUT MEME IS SPREADING

>> No.63774181

People act like council was fun and roses too at debut are full of shit too lmao
Council was widely considered a flop because all they did was guerilla minecraft streams and non-stop collabs that people got sick of
It took them nearly a full year to gain solid ground

>> No.63774195

>>63773883
Nope. It's proven, the only ones who say otherwise are retards who purposefully misread Covers financial reports in order to shitpost. I'm objectively correct.
The ONLY exceptions are girls with a shitload of sponsors and outside sources of income(Mori, Peko, and a few others) or someone like Gura, who's a unique case. But even in these rare cases, it takes YEARS upon years.

>> No.63774226

>>63774071
>You have autism
Yes, most, if not all, of the chuubas in holo do too. Your point?

>> No.63774276

>>63773969
I hope she gets well soon. Seeing any Hologirl not feeling well hurts my heart.

>> No.63774286

>>63773817
>singling out one single sentence and ignoring the rest
Good to know that you're a bad faith shitposter.

>> No.63774312

>>63768369
Streaming too much has always been a bad thing
It's bad for your own algorithm and channel growth.
Why do you think Koyori is still a middle tier holo despite all the work she puts in?

>> No.63774373 [DELETED] 

>>63774195
That's a lot of made up shit you wrote.

>> No.63774431 [DELETED] 

>>63774226
Only the boring ones.

>> No.63774442

>>63773969
>she fell for the burnout meme
oh no no no

>> No.63774479

>>63765477
They are? How so?

>> No.63774492

>>63774373
I accept your concession, anon. Have a horrible day.

>> No.63774575

>>63766210
>popular game buff
>two members of luxiam
>killed by runt zatsu
The absolute state of niji

>> No.63774583

>Nijifags shitting on Advent because they stream along and make infinitely more money than their "livers"
Love to see it

>> No.63774623

>>63774583
>console war tier faggotry
I wish this was bannable

>> No.63774723

>>63774623
If it were this entire thread, and all of your posts would be deleted and banned. Same with /#/.
Honestly, now that I think about it, that would be great.

>> No.63774725 [DELETED] 

>>63774286
I don't need to pick apart every piece of your argument because your idea of "good" content is terrible. That one in particular was just the worst. The only one who's actually made any interesting content so far in Advent is Nerissa when she brought her sister and mom in. You can tell how good it was by how many memes that fans spawned out from it and how popular those memes became on social media.

>> No.63774796 [DELETED] 

>>63774492
Go ask a doctor about that autism of yours.

>> No.63774829

>>63773969
>burn out
migraine, headache, hangover from drinking. could be many things but I assure you it is not burnout

>> No.63775007

Advent has been one of the most successful generations by Hololive. It helped pull fans of small corpos and indies very effectively and it was clear they carefully picked each member.
Biboo: younger audiences, FWMC: older men, nerissa:women and gays, shiori: unicorns

>> No.63775090 [DELETED] 

>>63775007
>shiori: unicorns
lol
lmao

>> No.63775211

>>63774725
Why do retards still assume them not liking something means it sucks? Are you that desperate to not be seen as a freak just because you don’t like Advent? Nobody cares, anon.

>> No.63775268

>>63774725
Kek, you almost got me, Anon. I thought you were being serious for a moment

>> No.63775515 [DELETED] 

>>63775211
>>63775268
My opinion > Your opinion.
End of story.

>> No.63775602

>>63765477
Who the fuck is council?

>> No.63775652

>>63773404
Based Adventrix CHAD, the STRONGEST fanbase in all of vtubing.

>> No.63775690

>>63774312
no one cares numbermonkey go back to your containment thread

>> No.63775695

>>63773404
Best post ever

>> No.63775867

>>63775690
if nobody cares then why are we here?

>> No.63775884

>>63771614
I'll take an autist who will buy merch, watch streams regurlary and send supas over a 100 tourists.

>> No.63775903

>>63775867
To watch and talk about vtubers.

>> No.63775937

>Council
Who?

>> No.63775949 [DELETED] 

>>63775690
>You just don't get it. I WANT my oshi to be less popular and make less money.

>> No.63775985

>>63767469
Get aload of this nigger.

>> No.63776018

>>63765477
great thread love this one.

>> No.63776022 [DELETED] 

>>63775884
And then they doxx you and murder your family when you don't meet their autistic demands.

>> No.63776058

>>63775949
none of these words were on the post you're quoting.

>> No.63776112

>>63776022
And when did that happened?

>> No.63776279

>>63773404
Best post ITT OP BTFO once agaian

>> No.63776302 [DELETED] 

>>63776058
I was quoting what your mom told me last night about you.

>> No.63776312

>>63776058
i see abstract thinking is difficult for you

>> No.63776364 [DELETED] 

>>63776112
Gura

>> No.63776582

>>63776312
It takes a lot of effort to reduce my mental capability just to match whatever delusions goes inside the head of a numbermonkey, so I'd rather just not.

>> No.63776628

>>63776364
Gura is fine though?

>> No.63776728 [DELETED] 

>>63776628
>he doesn't know

>> No.63776826

>>63776582
the world runs on numbers not fairytales

>> No.63776969

>>63765477
FWMC > Promise

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>>63776728
Well yeah i dont know i've been busy watching ADVENT and doing IRL stuff instead of dramabaiting in the Madagascar shadow puppetry discussion BBS.

>> No.63776978

>>63765477
Because OP is a retard unable to do math

>> No.63777050

>>63776826
The sole existence of holostars EN proves that is not the truth.

>> No.63777062 [DELETED] 

>>63776976
>doing IRL stuff
gtfo normie

>> No.63777079

>>63777050
Yagoo keeps them on life support.

>> No.63777114

>>63767469
Why chumbuds are like this?

>> No.63777213

>>63768452
Twitch vtubers are gaining more popularity unironically. Even some JPs streaming on this platform

>> No.63777389

>>63775007
>most successful
based on what metric? your opinion? They'll be mogged by myth even in two years

>> No.63777412

>>63777079
contradictory that in a world where numbers matter he would not only keep, but add more vtubers that don't make noombers.

>> No.63777421

>nearly 30 posts instantly deleted
holy schizo thread

>> No.63777568

>>63777421
One single nijischizo, seething like a pot of boiling pasta over the fact that HoloEN has been revitalized by a generation of cute girls who love to stream. How fucking sad. Why be an angry nijinigger when you could just watch Holo and be happy? Join the winning team, retards.

>> No.63777611

>>63777421
or pebbles are the new deadbeats the way in which they mass report threads they don't like

>> No.63777753

>>63777611
Based. Reporting and sage-ing is a duty.

>> No.63777811

>>63767469
>They haven't planned event collabs.
Did you miss their Halloween stream?
Fact is you aren't actually offering any criticism you just say they're boring.and stream too much.

Fact is nothing Advent makes will meet your approval because you just don't like them.

And now that they're not failing, you keep looking for a cope that will kill them because if they fail then you won't have to admit that you were wrong.


They're not going to "Take a step back" and stop streaming for weeks on end in order to torture their fanbase,

We get it you're a loser who likes it when your Oshi tortures you by denying you streams, you like being a little blueballed bitch. Or maybe it makes you feel more worthy when the streams are withheld from you because you're now addicted to the denial.

Advent is not for you, it's for streamers who like to stream and fans who like to watch girls stream.

You can have your Stream Orgasm Denial play with Myth.

>> No.63778056

>>63773319
They didn't talk about membership revenue they said Supers

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>>63777421
>it was literally a single nijifag spamming over and over how "boring" Advent is while trying to sow holo v holo garbage
Fucking kek every single time.

>> No.63778125

>>63773168
>The only purpose for zoomer girls is to be sex slaves for their hag Mistresses.
Based. Fuwawa would also approve.

>> No.63778137

>>63777421
Thats what proves it was literally just one single schizo shitposter.

>> No.63778154

>>63778125
Mococo is Fuwawa's zoomer sex slave

>> No.63778211

>>63765477
If you don't like them, that's okay, me neither, but that doesn't mean that they are worse. Just not your speed.

>> No.63778577

>>63777811
>Did you miss their Halloween stream?
Yes, because it sucked.

If you wanna actually see how successful they really are, compare them to Myth, Hope, and Council relative to each of their debuts. Advent isn't even beating Council in 2021 and is predicted to stagnate harder than any gen in EN before them. The honeymoon is over.

>> No.63778861

>>63778577
>ban evading
Kek I look forward to your next 30 seething posits being deleted, Niji.

>> No.63779433

>>63778861
Not a new IP, it isn't a ban evade. Probably just had a janny delete and then timed out his 15 minute auto mute. The ban will come in when an actual mod takes a look at it.

>> No.63779755

>>63778861
>>63779433
What the fuck are you even on about?

>> No.63779757

I think council has more synergy than advent but they’re both pretty good.

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>>63773611
>>63773969
Biboo will never escape

>> No.63779952

>>63766084
here's a (you)

>> No.63780032

>>63779755
You missed 30 simultaneous deletes on a seething nijinigger

>> No.63780109

>>63780032
here's another (You)

>> No.63784649

>>63774829
iirc it should be around her period rn

>> No.63785687

>>63784649
impossible, she hasn't hit puberty yet

>> No.63786233

>>63784649
Yeah the first of the month is her time

>> No.63786362

>>63765770
it's either kroniis or chumbuds trying to stagger their colossal growth by gaslighting this narrative

>> No.63788649

>>63786362
It's nijiniggers, and so are you. Your Holo vs Holo narrative is weaker than your oshi's numbers.

>> No.63793287

>>63774312
>Why do you think Koyori is still a middle tier holo despite all the work she puts in?
Because she is ugly and smells bad.

>> No.63794907

>>63767567
when myth first came out, they are pretty good

>> No.63795158

>>63779900
I don't know who I'm more jealous of: Biboo or Kaela. Probably Kaela more because she lives with Zeta & her godly thighs.

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