Is he throwing a jab at Nijisanji?

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>>63273301
his name kuro (black) is a straight jab at nijisanji.

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>>63273301
I'm not a Nijifan but I remember Vshoujo making jabs at Hololive at the time when they were weakest, not even the fans of theirs but the livers themselves, this is just that but with their new members this time and with a different company, Can't wait for them to go to Mythic and reveal they hate each other

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>>63273301
He's not, but the fact that it could be considered one is telling

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>>63273555
>livers
nijifag try harder....

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>>63273301
>staff doing their job
you dont need to congratulate staff for doing their job.

>they provide pages worth of hand typed guidance and ideas/advice
is hand typed something special these days?

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>>63273864
he's thanking them because that act is quite rare in nijisanji kek

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This is the equivalent of leaving a shit 3rd world country and getting free water and bread at a restaurant in Burgerland or the EU.

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>>63273864
ex-niji pris andstand

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>>63273301
Jesus what the fuck are they doing over at Nijisanji? This is like basic manager tasks.

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>>63273301
What a faggot

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>>63273943
Please understand, must accelerate. One ESL manager per 30 talents.

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>>63273301
At least post the full tweet.

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Being happy is an insult to every other vtuber company

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>>63274020
He seems so happy, I dunno why the other company feels like they're personally attacked or something, you want him to hunker down, never forget about his past never to be able to move on? He lives rent free in your heads jesas

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>>63274020
lmao, the way he and Mata literally have these little rants where they effusively gush about the support they now have and how they wouldn't have been able to even try something before because of a lack of support is hilarious.
When they have PTSD trigger events coz they think they broke a rule that doesn't exist anymore it's less funny and more sad, but still, extremely telling about their previous environment.
And yeah you can say that they're just hyping up their new workplace or whatever, but Matara literally had mini breakdowns regularly where she literally got derailed for 40+ mins trying to handle the trigger events throughout her first month or so.

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If Vshojo management is so great why does Nazuna hate it there?

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>>63273555
Everyone takes jabs at hololive because hololive is trash.

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>>63274429
>why does this actual bipolar person hate it there

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>>63274088
He's comparing with NijiEN. How can you not be happy for him?

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>>63274429
Vshojo JP is managed by different people

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isn't this the exact kind of thing kson did to hololive when she graduated? contantly making twice removed digs at the company, its like their brand or something

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>>63274558
that's because kson didn't want a manager but a secretary.

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>>63273301
But vshoujo does not have real auditions and do not accept other male auditions.

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>>63273555
>Youtube takedowns on videos
>nuxtaku saga
>The tranny hogwarts saga

Vshoujo still reeling from a ton of yabs that made a lot of people think they weren't a real agency. It's why they are now pushing so hard with the "I love this company they listen to me" stuff.

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Remember when Luca had a melty about people shitting on nijisanji? KWAB

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>>63273864
Nijis probably got chatgpt shit when asking for anything lmao

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>>63273301
>shitting on his ex friends
holy dude

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>>63274826
maybe talent freedom was a mistake

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>>63275189
Maybe they weren't friends to begin with

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I don't understand why anyone should be mad about this. All parties involved benefited from it which shows again how stupid and pointless this whole "graduation" process is unless the person behind the character is actually ending their career.

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>>63275189
to me, it doesn't read that he's shitting on them, just on the company and the management.

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>>63275389
Because you have some modicum of reading comprehension. He didn't say shit about Niji talents (not calling them livers, that's what they're destroying right now with alcohol, I assume)

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>>63273555
>reveal they hate each other
already happened when silvervale left and immediately started shittalking ironmouse kek

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>>63275338
Hololive created this trash culture. the sooner hololive ceases to exist the better.

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>>63274558
it's been over 2 years now and you numberchimps still cannot link one single clip or timestamp where she's talking shit about hololive but you still post every day about her supposedly doing so

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>>63275338
The point of graduations is to be another corporate control tool. "Leave us and we'll make it seem like you're leaving the business forever, and you'll have to start anew with no fanbase". Of course in practice that doesn't work like that, but the seed of doubt alone might be enough to keep the talent in company.

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>>63276414
idol culture with this graduation shit is basically a toxic relationship that companies use because they don't want to provide a competitive work environment.

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>>63276606
what if a girl wants to start fresh?

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>>63273864
>is hand typed something special these days?
I think the better question is whether or not this advice was any good.

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>>63276721
If she has a distinct voice, that's tough, since it would be easy for her old community to find her again. Best bet is to have heavy moderation that removes the people that were bothering you in the first place. Much like how Kuro has a bunch of rules to get rid of the toxic parts of the Mysta community.

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>constantly mentions PL for views and to kick them while they're down since it's popular to do so
nice consideration for all the people you used to work with you menhera fag. it was really worth it for your dwindling views but maybe you'll get a boost when your trashy gf joins

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>>63276919
Damn, how dare he talk positively about the company he is in and not cater to schizos like you

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>>63273555
>thread about nijis
>not a Nijifan
>forcefully drag hololive into conversation
ok anon we belieb you

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>>63277075
I'm a new IP you drooling retard

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>>63273301
needed that much brain storming for acrylic merch?
GRIM

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>>63276919
Its getting pretty silly at this point, I just kinda roll my eyes when I see another one of these jabs. We get it, Niji bad, it’d be nice if he didn’t throw people who were presumably his friends under the bus and just moved on already.

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>>63276919
>>63277261
NIJISEETHE

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>>63277261
He has never said anything negative about his friends, and has even admitted to talking to them in private after leaving.

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>>63273301
I hate him and his company, but honestly, good for him if he feels better in it. A couple months ago he seemed like a schizophrenic man constantly having a mental breakdown, it went from funny to sad to see, but at least now he got his shit back together.

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>>63274450
rent free seething aye

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>>63274450
nijiseetheeee

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>>63276060
>idol culture exists
>somehow is hololive fault
lol. lmao even

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>>63277636
Granted, they're the largest company, and they support that shit, and have since the early days, I believe, so it's at least PARTLY their fault, too.

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>>63277692
>have since the early days
nta. Retard they didn't become an idol company until gen 2 and not even started as a vtuber company. NIJISEETHEEEE.

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>>63277636
There would be no "graduation" culture around vtubers if it wasn't for hololive. They started that shit.

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>>63277798
Bitch, I despise Niji as much as the next guy. and "gen 2" isn't exactly that far in, either.

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>>63277836
>>63277841
Graduation existed long before hololive, you faggots stretching to blame is pathetic. Cover have no power to tell others what to do with their employees.

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>>63277884
there's this thing called "leading by example", and as the largest company they can influence how others do things. SO them having graduations encourages other companies to ALSO have graduations.

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>>63277935
encourage my ass, cover went idol route, niji went streamer route, wow so easy! why didn't niji followed the "example." retards.

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>>63277935
also they weren't the largest company with influence, Nijisanji was you moron.

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>>63278044
So it's their fault as well, then, fair enough.

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>>63273555
>livers
>not nijifan
KEK

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>>63274826
the fuck are you talking about? This things happened so long ago and a lot of amazing things happened this year. Only baiters and tourist still talk about it

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>>63273301
Wow, go fucking figure that when your company isn't staffed entirely by ESL retards that communication is easier?
And also there's only 5 talents that do anything, so staff's probably happy to work on something.

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>>63274826
The nux one was pretty fucked up but was almost entirely created by banners who is no longer in vshojo.

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>>63273864
>>they provide pages worth of hand typed guidance and ideas/advice
>is hand typed something special these days?
Beats copypasted generic non answers from a handbook the manager doesnt understand but is vaugly related to the question.

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>If I ever need help with projects
LMAO what projects? This faggot just does react content for 7 hours or fujobaits with Shoto. He's creativly bankrupt

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>>63274020
>Support the talent, not the company
>3 months later
>OMG GUNRUN IS A FUCKING GOD THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR MY EXISTANCE I LOVE VSHOJO IT'S THE BEST COMPANY IN THE WORLD
Holy hypocrisy batman

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>>63279076
When in shit company, support good talents, when in good company, support good company AND good talent. It's not that complicated.

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>>63274212
All those so-called "trigger events" were caused by antis, not the company. She's oversensitive retard and is still afraid that a bunch of underaged chink sister will call her a bitch

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>>63279107
Nice goalpost move. Also
>vshojo
>good company
lmao. I love how vshojofags memoryholed fake auditions and Silvervale's whole shitshow. Kudos to Ironlung and Gunrun, they made a really great damage control campaign with all the poaching, jabs at Niji, forced "familli unity", deflaming the talents that left and forced shilling from the new talents. It's probably one of the greatest bleaching schemes of a black company that I've ever seen.

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>>63277400
Mysta hated everyone in Niji besides Nina and Mika. Him going on a menhera breakdown, forbidding shipping with Vox because "it's wrong" and now jumping on Shoto's cock non-stop really solidifies what kind of piece of shit he is.

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>>63279393
>forbidding shipping with Vox because "it's wrong"
This never happened and I question where you even got this quotation you made up in your head from. Throughout his entire Nijisanji career he never forbid shipping him with the males.

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>>63274558
>when she graduated
She never talked shit about Hololive after graduation. In fact, she openly said on Twitter that she was willing to spend her own money and time to sue people who attack Cover because they are place and people she loves (and this happened unprompted by Hololive as well).
The only "attack" you might get from Kson was the "talent freedom" shctick, but everyone knows Hololive has their restrictions when it comes to edgier contents, after all

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>>63276919
>>63277261
>Compliment company he's working for on it's anniversary
>Take this as an insult against Nijisanji because ???
This is why nobody likes Nijiniggers. The fucking victim complex you people have, Jesus Christ.

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>>63279529
>>63276919
>>63277261
Discord samefag

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>>63279566
You wish.

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Inspect element is too easy to use these days. Screenshots are immediately discarded.

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>>63279614
That's a phone filename, sister.

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>she thinks others don't know how to do it on mobile too
Sorry sister you're not getting away with this.

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>>63279462
>This never happened
Sisiter, he literally cried on stream over fujos forcing him to "fuck his friends", stop deflecting. He was a piece of shit who only cared about Mika, Nina and numbers.

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NDF scrambling hard today huh

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>>63279662
>No u
Great argument. Is there a reason you're afraid to reply directly?

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>>63273555
>livers

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You're the one who keeps giving free (You)s. Doesn't change the fact that you samefagged.

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>>63279466
>Kson NEVER attacked Hololive
>Immidiatly provides example where she threw jabs at Holo management over "muh talent freedom"
Holy retarded ksonkek

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>>63273555
the only ones going to mythic are the drama bait bitches, since they left pretty much any drama involving vshoujo stopped and company rep grew up lmao the only drama bitch left is froot

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>>63279706
>he literally cried on stream over fujos forcing him to "fuck his friends"
Again with the fake quotation. Where are you getting these from?

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>>63279807
Okay, Ant. Maybe watch a Froot stream for once.

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>>63279776
Because I'm not an effeminate passive aggressive little faggot afraid to confront someone directly. Even in a world where I did samefag it wouldn't change the fact that your peers continue to shit on him in this very thread, making your point moot.

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>>63279706
i mean she wanted to do a lot of shit that is not allowed for anyone like actual flesh vtubing and doing lives with actual people aka vblogs, she took like what 2 months off streaming lately too? before you mention gura keep in mind that despite not streaming she put tons of works that require her to be in japan like marine mv and a lot of other shit

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>>63279294

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Who said I was a fan of shitji? I just like messing with you dramafags on this shitty board obsessed with anime pngs lmao.

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>>63279294
>fake auditions
Haruka
>Silvervale's whole shitshow
silvervales own decisions. if anything her being able to play hogwarts despite vshojo internally warning against it and her being able to take a stance on her own accord is more proof for talent freedom.

It's not memory holed at all, it's just not the yab you think it is.

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>>63279813
>I don't like to see it anymore guys!
>Proceeds to fujobait with Shoto and encourage everyone who ships them
He's a hypocrite. He unironically disliked shipping with Vox specifically and made a bunch of roundabout excuses why it's "uncomfortable"

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>>63280017
Kuro makes sexual jokes in this streams. That includes when he collabs with his friends. He isn't shipbaiting with Shoto and if your impression is based solely on clickbait based on said sexual jokes (which I am certain it is) you are incorrect. A quick review of how he interacted with Vox in his early days as Mysta will show you what him shipbaiting actually is and it is incomparable to his interactions with Shoto. Your argument also fails to take into account why he intentionally neglected to give himself a solo NSFW tag in this life.

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>>63279955
>He still believes that Haruka wasn't poached
Holy cope
>silvervales own decisions
Ah yes, her being harassed by a bunch of trannies and Vshojo throwing her under the bus was on her own volition
>her being able to take a stance on her own accord is more proof for talent freedom
So you can do whatever you want on the condition that the company will just throw you out to the wolfs and won't protect you? Nice "freedom" you have there buddy.

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I can't believe it's already 2026.

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>>63280523
I know he's illiterate, but even that doesn't excuse your bad reading comprehension.

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>>63280267
>haruka
>poached
retard.

>Ah yes, her being harassed by a bunch of trannies
she ignored the warning that the game is controversial and might cause backlash.
Nothing vshojo could have done afterwards.

>So you can do whatever you want on the condition that the company will just throw you out to the wolfs and won't protect you? Nice "freedom" you have there buddy.
She used her freedom to poke the wolfs and Vshojo itself isn't going to make a political statement.
Only a retard would think this is a yab for vshojo when other EN companies didn't even play the game.

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>>63279784
That wasn't really an attack, just a difference between VShojo and other group, Hololive included. Having fewer restrictions (or more freedom) isn't always a good thing

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>>63280558
>is this nigga srs

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>>63274429
Unfortunately vshojo doesn't hold her by a tight enough leash like she enjoyed with hololive.

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How do you respond without sounding mad?

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>>63274429
hates it so much she refuses to leave and is free to stream as mikeneko and still take a nice cut from nazuna merch sales kek

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>>63279466
>>63279784
>talent freedom
Provide a timestamp where she said that.
Can't you?
That's the Mandela effect of the retarded thread reader.

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>>63279115
It could also be both anon. It took until now for NijiEN’s staff to finally feel like they’re cleaning house, the loss of two big talents.

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Vshojou is Niji resistance now
Each EX NijiEN goes to vshojou, after that they will post something about Black Sanji

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>>63284060
Nobody tell him about U-san being indie. Also it's VShojo ffs.

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>>63284414
and U-san always collabs with Vshojo kek

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>>63277935
So you're saying that Cover somehow influenced other companies to have graduations, before anyone ever graduated from Hololive?

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>>63280581
>G-guys, she wasn't poached, the audition was real! Yeah, only 1 person got hired through it and it so happens to be the one who collabed and interact with Vshojo a lot in the past, but it's just a pure coincidence, trust me
Suuure
>Nothing vshojo could have done afterwards
They should've just say that the talents don't share the opinion and values of JK Rowling but they won't tolerate the harrasment of their talents, that's it. But instead of doing so, they bend the knee to an angry mob of retards and allowed one of their talents to be harassed into oblivioin, and then said "well, it's her fault". The fact that Pikamee was harassed for the same thing before she graduated and now everyone memoryholed everything about that is just absurd. What if Henya wanted to play the wizard game? Would Gunrun and Ironmouse throw her under the bus too?
> Vshojo itself isn't going to make a political statement
Froot made charity streams supporting Ukraine and trans kids, those ARE political statements you braindead retard. Also, the thrans kid charity was also extremly questionable too.
>Only a retard would think this is a yab for vshojo
Ah yes, one of the talents getting throwed under the bus is not a yab at all, this is the talent's fault for being harassed in the first place, right? This is unironic black company behaviour

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>>63285012
No, I'm saying that whole bullshit is imported from the idol industry, and Hololive doing it is part of the problem. So is Niji, if you somehow think I'm defending them

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vhsojofags may be more retarded than sisters

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>>63273864
A manager taking 5 minutes to send some resources and ask the talent to come back with more concrete requests sounds like common sense. The fact that he thinks that's novel or special really shows how hands-off niji management was/is.

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>>63284414
>>63284521
U-san has never said a thing about Niji, furthermore he straight up disacoiated himself from it and pretends like he's never been in Niji, which is a right thing to do. Throwing jabs and dropping hints is just cringe, it's pure dramabaiting and done solely for attention and views. I respect U-san for that, shame that Mata and Kuro are petty retards that can't let go their glory days and keep being obsessed with the other company

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>>63278746
kek even mouse crapped on him anon, don't think anyone forgot
and only Zen apologized for it iirc
silver banned and blocked people who brought it up and the other whores just swept it under the rug
Be glad Nux turned out to be a pussy, if he had half the balls of his pumped up online persona, VShojo wouldn't exist today.

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>>63276919
kek so many clips of "accidents" by both him and Matara
they're still surprised that not all their fans jumped platforms to follow them

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>>63285146
you don't know what poaching means.

most of it wasn't real threats to Silvervale and easily fall under free speech. It's also questionable how much Silvervale tried to ask for help from others considering her comment of not having talked to anybody for months now. Nevertheless Ironmouse did stand by her and publically said that nobody deserves to get harassed and sent death threats.

Froot made those, not Vshojo, just like Silver was free to play Hogwarts too.

No, it's the fault of twitter freaks. But you're retarded if you think that Vshojo or any of the talents should take the brunt of harassment after they warned her not to play the game since it was controversial, she made that decision on her own instead of communicating.

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>>63278746
nux is now canceled he's a bad guy now a lit baby killer supporter

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>>63275338
>>63275389
You guys are misunderstanding the whole "graduation" thing.
As the other anons said, it started way before Cover / Hololive / VTubers existed. It might have started with idols, but it could've begun even earlier than that as well. The point of "graduation" was NOT to be a permanent farewell or a career ending event. It was simply meant to signify that the graduating person finished a step of their life / career, and is now moving onto the next. Just like how a student graduates from high school and either join the workforce, start his own business, go on to university, etc., a graduating idol can either leave the entertainment scene forever, or move on to next step and chase after a singer / actress / MC career. You say farewell and / or wish them luck.
There might be fewer choices for a VTuber / streamer, but the meaning doesn't change. I don't see anything wrong or trashy about that.

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>>63285714
Conveniently ignoring the part where they have NDAs so that they can't say what they'll be doing after graduating, and can't talk about what name they went by before graduating.

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>>63279784
nah, too much freedom isn't a good thing, it stifles creativity. Of course being too oppressive also stifles creativity, its a balance. Hololive strikes that balance better than vshojo. How creative has kson been since she joined vshojo? Absolutely nothing with widespread appeal on the level of Kiryu Coco.
Also an environment where everyone has total freedom means there is less appreciation for events that push the boundaries (because boundaries are either already very far or non-existent) hence less desire to push the boundaries, like K-son. See the difference in reaction to showing skin in vshojo vs showing skin in hololive. This also affects word of mouth and audience reach.

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>>63274826
>this is the fabled talent freedom and creative freedom
Grim. But yeah, they're trying really, really hard.

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>>63286032
she became really creative when they banned her from doing anything that's not meme review or minecraft
thanks yagoo

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>>63285815
As if that ever stopped people from knowing who they were

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>>63285501
>easily fall under free speech
Harassment and death threats don't fall under free speech you retard.
> It's also questionable how much Silvervale tried to ask for help from others considering her comment of not having talked to anybody for months now
And couldn't other girls approach her first? Why the fuck her not wanting to talk to others (which is understandable, she felt like shit) is used as some kind of "got you" moment?
>Froot made those, not Vshojo
Froot is affiliated with the company, streamed as Froot while promoting those, put those charities as Froot and was approved by Vshojo to do those charities. The excuse "it isn't affiliated" only works if her roommate or IRL persona would promote those charities, not her as a company streamer.
>But you're retarded if you think that Vshojo or any of the talents should take the brunt
So basically, you are free to do anything in Vshojo, but if you do something that company doesn't approve, you will be thrown under the bus, correct? This is no "freedom", this is passive coercion. It's like saying that every slave has freedom because they have choice to kill themselves in any moment if they don't like something. This is a well known black company tactic: presenting the worker with a "free choice" where one of the choices is definitely "the wrong one" and will lead to bad consequences if the worker follow through it.

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>>63279726
>Great argument. Is there a reason you're afraid to reply directly?
People like him get anxiety attacks when they're arguing online. They don't reply directly in hopes that you miss their post and they can close the thread and finally stop hyperventilating.
I'm not even exaggerating. They're afraid of being confronted.

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>>63279955
No anon don't you get it Fr00t bad because she squashed an ant.

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>>63286239
Ant take your fucking meds. You will NEVER be famous.

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>>63286111
So you acknowledge she's done nothing creative since entering vshojo. Glad you see sense.

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>>63279529
The difference in how the two fanbases treat rrats and shitposts is hilarious to see.

If some fag posts a vague holo tweet and says "OH NO NO X-CHAN HATES Y-CHAN", everyone involved either joins in on the shitposting (knowing it's for fun) or if the post is made in a non ironic tone, just dismisses the entire thing because the fanbase has high morale and trust the girls they watch.

Meanwhile some shitposter posts a vague tweet of a former niji talent praising his current company (>implying) and even the FANS of his former company make posts shitting on him WHILE ASSUMING that OP's narrative is true.. because their morale is so low and their oshis AREN'T above taking public potshots like this (even if this might not be one).

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>>63286348
considering your definition of "creative" is "reddit meme review" you're right
she's done plenty of fun streams, offline events, music and videos though

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>>63286239
>Harassment and death threats don't fall under free speech you retard
learn to read, retard.
>And couldn't other girls approach her first? Why the fuck her not wanting to talk to others (which is understandable, she felt like shit) is used as some kind of "got you" moment?
It's pointless to speculate over something private that we have no insight into.
>Froot is affiliated with the company, streamed as Froot while promoting those, put those charities as Froot and was approved by Vshojo to do those charities. The excuse "it isn't affiliated" only works if her roommate or IRL persona would promote those charities, not her as a company streamer.
Nope. That falls under talent freedom, Froot acted on her own just like Silver did when she decided to play Hogwarts. Go ahead and find me a mention of Vshojo in her tweets if you want to prove me wrong.
>So basically, you are free to do anything in Vshojo, but if you do something that company doesn't approve, you will be thrown under the bus, correct?
This is no "freedom", this is passive coercion. It's like saying that every slave has freedom because they have choice to kill themselves in any moment if they don't like something. This is a well known black company tactic: presenting the worker with a "free choice" where one of the choices is definitely "the wrong one" and will lead to bad consequences if the worker follow through it.
Nope. Vshojo as a company doesn't do anything political and that's good. Cope and seethe, retard.

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>>63286420
>everything we do is just fun
>everything they do is seething
You retards go out of your way to LARP as sisters all day then you takeyour own shitposts as something that was said in honesty.

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>Ant still having a melty
Reminder she got caught not once but twice self posting and seething at Froot.

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>>63285714
I get your point, that's a reasonable and a good take. Still, the simple fact that a graduated person becomes a persona non-grata to their previous colleagues really sucks. It's not like most of them will completely change their occupation and the whole Vtubing business is not that big to justify this "non-competing clause" pettiness. I know some of the graduated people were not particularly close with their former colleagues, but we still miss countless great moments that will never happen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63280267
>poached
You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63279466
KSon never attacked Hololive and was generally friendly with Cover behind the scenes during her first year alone - and the Holo fanbase treated her in kind.
After joining VShojo she did two things
> zero cons in joining VShojo
and sucked Gunrun's cock waaay too hard about the simplest tech shit he did. This ruined a lot of her credibility in the eyes of holofans. BUT more importantly -
> she blamed Cover for Kanata moving out
Kanata made it abundantly clear that this decision was hers alone, but KSon shit on Cover by vagueposting about corpos ruining friendships or some shit around the time she moved out.
This made it 50-50 among holofans who still liked her and didn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63285282
I'll be quite honest, not to defend niji but there's been like 0 things done by either kuro or mata. No covers, no sponsorships afaik, no convention invites yet and even the latest merch drop ignored both of them.
It's great that they get to keep a larger chunk of their change but with Kuros views already dropping below 2.5k less than 2 months after debut and his fans donating way less and being less likely to buy merch, I don't predict it to be a year before he's complaining about not having stuff.

I won't lie I don't think it'll be that long before mata starts complaining too. If you watch her vods as Nina you'll hear her praise Niji and talk about how much she wanted to be a part of it, and then her numbers fell off after mysta's under aged fans doxed her and her tune changed.

From what silver said when she left, vshojo is largely the mouse show and I don't predict that'll change since neither kuro or mata can carry a tune in a bucket.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63286757
They've both had convention appearances and Tara literally just released a song yesterday

[Anonymous No.]

>>63274826
and people said she wouldn't interact with Tempus if she was still in holo kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>63286757
Tara literally released a cover on debut, and an original song yesterday. Also a scripted murder mystery stream event thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63274826
except play hogwarts legacy

[Anonymous No.]

>>63273555
>not a nijifan
>livers
uh huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>63273555
>livers
sneakiest falseflagging nijifag

[Anonymous No.]

>>63286620
It's not so different from graduated idols fading away from their old friend circles. When what you shared with someone is gone, you often just naturally move apart. Happened every time I switched jobs, I only keep in touch with like 1-2 people from my old workplace.

And its 100% not a uniform thing across everywhere, just see Ina and Henya collab, Haachama's message to KSon or Bae and Miori for counterexamples.

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>>63286725
>KSon shit on Cover by vagueposting about
I love how faggots know specifically what someone is talking about every time someone vagueposts. You people should work for law firms, as business negotiators, or CIA analysts. You're just so good at "knowing"!

[Anonymous No.]

>>63287025
whos going to post that acrostic

[Anonymous No.]

>>63286854
>>63286942
NTA but why are VShojo just following Hololive when it comes to content?
I don't think Matara not Kuro wants to be an idol, so what's with the cover songs? why not game videos or animations or something different from the norm?

[Anonymous No.]

>>63278274
Ehhh in general they still have problems getting seen as a legitimate company. Melody has talked about it before but they don't have nearly the same opportunities as holo or Niji and she blames herself since she's got her whole side business

[Anonymous No.]

>>63287119
Because they want to?

[Anonymous No.]

>>63286942
No wonder I saw so few people talking about it. It's awful.....

[Anonymous No.]

>hololive invented music covers
This is the level of delusion holotrannies are at now KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>63287119
You don't need to be an idol to sing or like singing, and there isn't anything wrong with sticking with the norm. It's not like Hololive is extremely creative either (and again, it's not a bad thing to stick with the norm)

[Anonymous No.]

>>63286474
>That falls under talent freedom
Talent freedom doesn't exclude affiliation with the company you retard. Anything that Vshojo talents do still represents Vshojo as a whole, this is why Nazuna does retarded shit on her side account instead of the main one since Vshojo doesn't want to be associated with all the mikeneko drama.
>Vshojo as a company doesn't do anything political
First, this is cope, second, protecting your talents from harrasment is not a political statement you braindead mouthbreather.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63274826
>>Youtube takedowns on videos
>>nuxtaku saga
Fuck Youtube dramafags and fuck Nux and his community of literal 8 year olds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63287020
Henya and Tomoshika would be a bit better example, but her case is special. Seems like she still to this very day wants to protect her friends from the unwanted echo of the shitshorm that followed her graduation. Yet she still managed to mention Tomoshika and Gyari indirectly and directly several times.

But yeah, I remember this awkward post-split Mouse and Nyanners collab with the sole purpose of calming down their communities. That's why I still cringe a bit when Kuro and Matara scream about how friendly this company is and how Zen and Mouse often repeat that this company is built and functions like a big family.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63287451
I mean, Nyan and Mouse still off-handedly speak of each other fondly, so it's not like they actively hate and avoid each other, as far as the viewers can tell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63273864
>you dont need to congratulate staff for doing their job.
According to Kuro and Matara's experiences, it's actually quite the feat in Nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>63286757
>If you watch her vods as Nina you'll hear her praise Niji and talk about how much she wanted to be a part of it, and then her numbers fell off after mysta's under aged fans doxed her and her tune changed
Baiscally this. If Nina and Mysta were like Gundou and treated Nijisanji as just a job without fanfare, I would understand and probably would've been sympathetic towards them. On the contrary, they kept reapeting this "familly" garbage all the time and kept repeating how much they love Niji. Now they just throw jabs at the previous company and repeat the same "familly" bullshit in the new company now. It's just hypocritical and feels forced and fake

[Anonymous No.]

>>63286942
>>63286854
Fair enough guess I'm out of the loop I don't see anyone talking about it either /here/ or on Twitter. I don't really see conventions advertising them as headliners or anything similar either.
I didn't really see anyone talking about the song either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63287119
>following Hololive
Hololive invented song covers now?
There are only so many creative mediums and ideas out there. Hololive has so many talents and is such a big operation that they've already covered most of them.
So I guess they're "following Hololive" in the sense that they're doing completely normal creative things that just happen to also be done in Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63287425
No, that's her own choice.
And they can voice their own opinions and do so all the time.

>First, this is cope, second, protecting your talents from harrasment is not a political statement you braindead mouthbreather.
They can't shut down free speech or twitter, dumbass. Only legit threats of violence can be prosecuted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63286757
>From what silver said when she left, vshojo is largely the mouse show
Silver is, or at least was, terminally numberpoisoned. It's something she vented about more than once, and we eventually learned that her father is the one who put the poison in her, by always putting her down for not being good enough regardless of how well she did or how hard she tried.

When VShojo launched, Silver was one of the stars and Mouse was only just coming up. So imagine someone with that mindset seeing herself stall and plateau as nearly all her friends catch up, eclipse, and far exceed her success.

Don't take her parting sentiments as an objective estimation of her environment.

>>63287836
Have you considered that you don't hear about these things or see people talking about them because you don't walk in those circles?

[Anonymous No.]

>>63287025
> Posted on membership a couple of days after Kanata announced she was moving out
> "A world that uses vtubers and their fans like hostages is not a good world!"
> "We may not be allowed to show it to everyone, but we are still friends."
> "You can't control what's in the heart, no one can!"
She didn't make it very vague with that timing or that topic.

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>>63288051
It has nothing to do with choice you retard, don't you know the definition of company affiliation? Vtubers are basically mascot character, everything that they do is associated with their company by default. If a guy in a pepsiman suit will start jerking off in a public park, this will be bad optics for Pepsi, even though he has done it on his own volition. The same goes for every corporate vtuber ever.
>They can't shut down free speech
And they didn't need to, making a statement would be enough, and they didn't bother to do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63274020
>4+ paragraphs
No thanks just give me the rrat

[Anonymous No.]

Rather impressive that a thread about Kuro and Niji still somehow becomes about Kson and Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63287823
Niji family = trauma-bonded talents helping each other survive their shitty company

VShojo family = talents and staff lifting each other up to achieve their goals and dreams

>>63288324
>making a statement
Putting a spotlight on a creator being harassed for no reason other than to wag your finger and say "that's not very nice, don't do that" will not solve anything and in fact may just make it worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63288148
>Silver is, or at least was, terminally numberpoisoned.
So are Kuro and Mata. Both are literally like Silver and have mommy issues.This is why they left Niji and this is why they're ticking bombs waiting to explode anytime Mouse and Gunrun will stop playing their tune

[Anonymous No.]

>>63274212
>Write a post about being happy
>You write this schizo babble

[Anonymous No.]

>>63288324
It doesn't represent the company as a whole, just that talent, retard.
They can mostly act like indies in vshojo, including putting out their opinions, talent freedom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63288429
Calling any company "familly" is cringe, period. Is just the laziest forced corpo PR imaginable
>Putting a spotlight on a creator being harassed for no reason other than to wag your finger and say "that's not very nice, don't do that" will not solve anything
It would at least make Silvervale feel better and make her feel secure. Not reacting in any way must've make her feel like shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>63288457
Any day now, just like Henya leaving, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>63288497
Talents are employees of the company. They always represent their company, retard
>They can mostly act like indies
Yeah, as long as you don't say a wrong opinion

[Anonymous No.]

>>63288656
Henya has no reasons to leave. My point is that Kuro and Mata are menheras. Just give them a year and they'll pull Silver's "I dont feel like I belong anymore" shit just like they did in Niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>63285313
nijifuckingseethe

[Anonymous No.]

>>63288737
That's the fun thing with JP agencies. Talents are practically emplees (legally not)

In a western agency a talent is a customer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63288457
You say that but Nijifags also tried to warn us about how disastrously menhera they both were
And uh, they seem pretty normal to me
So I'm not really feeling like you guys are reliable on this matter

>>63288633
>It would at least make Silvervale feel better and make her feel secure
... Until it backfires by bringing in even more abuse, because that's how the Internet is.
Not that this is even something she's ever talked about or said she wanted to happen. It's just what thin wisps you guys can reach for to paint VShojo as the bad guy in that situation.
Even though they did the right thing.

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>>63288737
>Talents are employees of the company. They always represent their company, retard
So you're part of the cancel culture, huh?
>Yeah, as long as you don't say a wrong opinion
Like what? They can say almost anything as long as it's allowed on the platform they use.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63288823
holy fuck you nijifags can't stop seething that people are truly happy now

[Anonymous No.]

>>63288867
>In a western agency a talent is a customer
WTF does it even mean? They literally sign contracts and provide content for Vshojo, they're employees. I swear, this is one of the most retarted copes I've seen about Vshojo, on par with Kson's "Vshojo is actually not a company" bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63273301
is feeesh that toxic that even vshitshow is better?
holy moly

[Anonymous No.]

jabbing nijisanji is plus on block, confirms into itself, and leads to full combo
everyone wins by spamming it

[Anonymous No.]

>>63288979
Yeah, just like Silvervale was happy too, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>63288979
It's no wonder Matara and Kuro were happy to leave Niji when it has many insane viewers like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63288951
It's a factual statement you braindead retard. Emloyees represent the company, this is why you can get fired if you act inappropriately in public
>Like what?
Like Silver playing the wizard game and the company throwing her under the bus for that

[Anonymous No.]

>>63289039
Then they can just leave with their IP so it's not a big deal. It just shows that those who remain do like working for vshojo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63288988
they do not "provide content for vshojo", they themselves own the content they produce
kson did not say vshojo is not a company

[Anonymous No.]

>>63273555
>I'm not a Nijifan
>livers
KEK
nice trips tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>63289185
It's not true and it's not true for indies under mythic either, the talents own their own social media and IP.


>Like Silver playing the wizard game
But she was free to do it? God you're such a fucking retard. Just stop posting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63288988
>They literally sign contracts and provide content for Vshojo
No, VShojo provides support for the talent's content.

They might call Gunrun "boss," but in truth he works for them. The company has no control over them, they exist only to be of service.

This isn't cope. This is literally just how talent agencies usually operate.

[Anonymous No.]

Everyone learned from Hogwarts, well, except silver.

Mouse learned that relationships can't always be on stream and she needs to reach out to people who are struggling, in private, not in some broad context on social media. She got therapy and not only became a better friend, she brought on new members to the family.

Meanwhile Silver hasn't learned a thing, hasn't grown, and her only friend is her mom.

[Anonymous No.]

you can do anything you want expect play hogwash
TALENT FREEDOM

[Anonymous No.]

>>63289259
Providing content doesn't mean that they have to own it you fucking retard with zero reading comprehension.
>kson did not say vshojo is not a company
She did on her JP stream after announcing joinment to Vshojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>63289391
Except they could and did, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63273864
He probably means that most of the management communication at Niji was stock corporate responses full of formalities and light on genuine engagement with his requests/concerns/etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63289413
she did not

[Anonymous No.]

>>63274429
She also hated Holo and presumably would have hated Niji, it's a menhera thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63289442
poggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>63289361
Representation and affiliation doesn't mean that the company have to own everything. In Vshojo case, their social media accounts are basically their personal accounts that they use as company's employees. Like, if you leave your e-mail contact at your work place, it doesn't mean that they own it now, but it's associated with the company.
>But she was free to do it
Yes, and she was thrown under the bus as a result. You vshojofags really love to spin and twist every word to fit into your "freedom" narrative, don't you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>63289577
>she was thrown under the bus
No, she wasn't
You don't even know what that means

[Anonymous No.]

>>63289370
>VShojo provides support for the talent's content
And they provide exposure, goodwill and content in return. Vshojo isn't a charity, they don't fucking doing it for free.
>They might call Gunrun "boss," but in truth he works for them.
This is genuinely delusional. Holy corpo bootlicking

[Anonymous No.]

>>63289381
>Mouse learned that relationships can't always be on stream and she needs to reach out to people who are struggling, in private, not in some broad context on social media.
expecting others to know what you're thinking and lashing out when they don't cater to you is such a woman thing to do. No wonder silver ended up alone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63273301
It doesn't seem necessarily like an intentional jab at niji, but it highlights the difference between vshojo and niji chuubas.
Vshojo chuubas wants their company to succeed because they genuinely believe in it.
Niji livers want their company to succeed because they don't want to be out of a job.

It's a difference in motivation founded on the company's support to the streamer. Saying one likes on company does not mean liking the other. It just is the case here that I did not see any Niji posts like this in recent times (apart from "if we hate it why are we still here" Luca, pfft).

[Anonymous No.]

>>63289458
Archive reps

[Anonymous No.]

>>63289723
i watched the stream live you dumb nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>63289675
>Vshojo isn't a charity, they don't fucking doing it for free.
I didn't say they were or did.

Anon, talent agencies are not a new thing. And in the Western world, they ALL operate like VShojo does. Agencies work for the talent, not the other way around.
Get it the fuck together.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63289577
at this point you just repeat the same retarded arguments that I already debunked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63273301
This faggot is garbage
Vshitjo is garbage
Nijisanji is garbage

[Anonymous No.]

>>63273301
>be a male
>be in Vshojo (a pun on the word "bishoujo" meaning "beautiful girl")
I will never understand this marketing strategy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63289849
Burger King sells nuggets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63289849
>be in nijisanji
>use a 3d model

>be in hololive
>don't be a hologram and never go live

>be in phase connect
>don't connect with anyone

>be in project kawaii
>don't be cute

>be in prism project
>don't be a prism which refracts light, projecting a spectrum of light's different colors

>be in mythic
>no myths are written about you

>be in wactor
>don't whack thor

[Anonymous No.]

>>63289849
>be VShojo
>have no waves, gens, or branches
>all talents are considered part of the same group
>hire a man
>he becomes part of the same group as everyone else
I dunno seems kinda simple to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>63289039
anon the only person that could make silver happy was her father

[Anonymous No.]

>>63290029
Or Asmongold, possibly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63289753
Vshojo doesn't operate like a talent agency, they operate like a vtuber company. They have their own brand and merch, every talent is a part of the brand, is featured at brand's promotions and merchendise. This is not how talent agencies in other media operate, this is how JP corpos operate. The only difference is that the talents keep the rights to their characters. I actually like this approach since it makes vtubers into actual living characters without being puppets of a company that will disappear after graduation. Unfortunately, nobody in Vshojo treat themselves as anime characters, they treat themselves as streamers with anime avatars, which is just a fucking waste

[Anonymous No.]

>>63289577
Anon you are full of shit. Stop talking about things you don't know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63290029
With his dick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63289771
You didn't debunk shit, just deflected and repeated the same "talent freedom" nonsense like a fucking mantra

[Anonymous No.]

>>63290082
nah that bitch is far too gone. The melt she had during mouse birthday was epic

[Anonymous No.]

>be in Nijisanji
> be a massive lolcow and numberfag from day 1 and attract some of the most insane women in the fanbase while refusing to tardwrangle anyone
> instantly treated as an innocent good boy dindu nuffin the moment he leaves Nijisanji

Can't wait for the board's opinion of shitheads like Kyo, Enna, and Luca to immediately reverse the moment they inevitably leave too

[Anonymous No.]

>>63290128
at least would be better than calling her retard and telling her to fuck off. KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>63290187
qrd? Must have missed that

[Anonymous No.]

>>63273555
shut it nijidog

[Anonymous No.]

>>63290221
He didn't do anything mean spirited, he was just menhera
even in the all out war picture he's wallowing in sadness rather than talking shit about anyone else

[Anonymous No.]

>>63290241
ahhh... She made a rant on twitter going full numberfag and baiting pity. She deleted everything after the fact but some anons still have the pics of it. Later she blamed her father, again

[Anonymous No.]

>>63288979
Nta but he's correct. Ninas catchphrase used to be "for the numbers honey" and mysta used to number bait hardcore, literally look at his stream titles for something like the among us collab they had back in the day.
I'll also be the first to point out that mysta at his peak shit on shoto several times and distanced himself pretty hardcore only to immediately start collabing with him again as kuro after his numbers started dropping.

If they stay that's great but honestly speaking silver and the other two really aren't that different and when mouse starts getting opportunities the other two don't because mouse IS the company, I fully predict that they'll be in the same situation silver was. You don't have to be a Nijifag to realize that number brainrot is terminal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63290466
>nijiseethe
Why do you think they were so worried about numbers? Here is a tip, niji is the lethal company of vtuber world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63290623
Silver wasn't in Niji and still was a huge numberfag. It has nothing to do with the company, it's just personal menhera brainrot

[Anonymous No.]

>>63290097
The unified branding is the only thing that VShojo has in common with companies like Hololive or Nijisanji.

>it makes vtubers into actual living characters without being puppets of a company that will disappear after graduation
>Unfortunately, nobody in Vshojo treat themselves as anime characters, they treat themselves as streamers with anime avatars, which is just a fucking waste
Good luck finding even a single vtuber (who does it as their full-time online persona) that is willing or able to commit to playing a character like that.

That ideal is really only fulfilled by actual character vtubers like Bubi, Nouvelle or Vulo who only exist when and as they are needed as characters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63290663
silver is just jealous. It must hurt to had been one of the biggest western vtubers for a time just to be taken over by mouse and nyanners.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63287119
No idea what Kuro's stance is, but Tara simply enjoys singing and wants to improve on it. Nothing to do with being or not being an idol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63291137
Thing is, she was never even that large, Nyanners had the biggest fanbase from before VTubing, and Mouse had rapid growth. Silver was just there, and not the best at anything.
The other members either found their niches or settled on not being number 1, she didn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63290727
>Good luck finding even a single vtuber (who does it as their full-time online persona) that is willing or able to commit to playing a character like that
Porcelain Maid, for example

[Anonymous No.]

>>63291537
He's not playing a character, though
In fact he is so not a character that most people call him by his real name

[Anonymous No.]

>>63288148
nta, you're too reasonable in a bait thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>63287156
logically this makes sense because most companies don't want to associate their brand with a porn star. I think Melody should've just made a 2nd brand account instead of relying on just one to avoid losing these opportunities

[Anonymous No.]

>>63288251
If, hypothetically, Cover did force her longtime friend to move, kson has a right to be pissed. Even if you agree with Cover and Kanata's decision, you can still understand how kson would feel about it, it's a serious decision and not kson just taking petty shots.
But since the decision-making process behind the move happened entirely behind closed doors and we only have a few public statements from Kanata, and because kson's own statement is so vague, we really don't have the context to properly interpret what precisely she's referring to, important details are left out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63290623
Mysta was literally more popular than some of the holos and was still number baiting
He made over 1 million USD in less than 2 years of being of being in Niji. He had paypigs who dropped thousands a week on his ass and he was still concerned about his numbers.
Some people just can't be fixed. Nina I at least understand since she was a low 3 view but in part a lot of that was because she spent literal months in Australia and Europe offcollabing with luxiem. You literally couldn't watch anything on her channel that wasn't an offcollab. When that content died out after mysta's fanbase harassed her, people really didn't have much expectations for her content.
Doesn't help that this board hated her because she was in Niji as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63294301
tbf Mysta was apparently in serious financial shit, so that would explain some of the number enthusiasm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63293453
Yeah melody has actually been on record talking about how shes contemplated quitting more than once because her reputation makes boomers and places like Japan less than eager to do collabs with her. But it's not exactly fair to expect her to quit especially when it's not like she's on twitch sucking dildos or anything. It's an alt account that she was and it's honestly shit that anyone would hold it against her when it was literally what brought her into the spotlight in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63294398
I mean it wasn't even half a year before he was buying property for his mom and shit. Even at the very end of his time in Niji he was literally telling his fans he'd nuke his channel unless they got his song to 1 million. The guy is just mentally unstable and can't help but to obsess over numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>63294301
>Some people just can't be fixed.
He doesn't appear to be unhappy with his numbers in VShojo at all though

[Anonymous No.]

>>63294670
He already resorted back to doing shipbait and gay baiting with the same person he distanced himself from in Niji because he didn't want to be seen as just someone who does gay baiting.
It's likely with a year he'll be streaming to sub 2k at the rate his numbers have fallen as well which is when you'll start to see an uptick in his numberfagging.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63294301
>she was a low 3 view
What are you talking about? Nina consistently had 1k views, at worst she had like 500 views when she played some debuff game, but she never dropped into low 3view territory

[Anonymous No.]

Holofags will argue for hours over stupid crap but won't pick up weights for even a single set or send out job applications.
>250~ posts
>90~ IPs

[Anonymous No.]

Kuro has been completely avoiding drama in his current career and yet the seethe against him for simply existing is stronger than ever. This thread with him simply praising his current company will hit bump limit. Absolutely disingenuous framing of him making sex jokes with a friend as shipbaiting for numbers when the last collab they did together didn't even have a POV on his channel is rampant.
Wish I knew why he makes people so mad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63295108
iirc people are fine with Kuro now that he's been exposing very terrible, horrible secrets of his previous company!

[Anonymous No.]

>>63295108
>Wish I knew why he makes people so mad.
Holoniggers use him and anyone else like Nina/Mata and Yugo as an attack vector on nijisanji.
When Kuro debuted on vshojo you had a flood of shitposters in their threads calling everyone a cuck for debuting a male in vshojo, and in nijisanji threads you had a fuckton of discord raiders making shit up about Mysta and calling him a backstabber.
Meanwhile the fans migrated to their respective new communities and are content with watching their oshi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63294863
I guess I misremembered I had to double check on vrabi but you're right a lot of the times she was close to 1k if not more. It was only on games like mass effect 1, hypnospace, outer wilds, darkest dungeon ii, cruelty squad and zatsus that she was less than that.
Still though her audience really didn't shower her in money like the other girls. Millie has paypigs who drop thousands in streamlabs, Enna has paypigs who drop 100+ members every stream, Reimu even has paypigs who drop upwards of 2k a month through streamlabs and buy her merch so much that she made enough from birthday merch alone to where it was actually on par with what her father made in a year.
Nina unfortunately never did.

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>>63295257
You'll have no problem finding a single clip of him doing aa such then, surely.
You hate him over things invented in your head.

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>>63295108
I'll be quite Frank with you. His first two months in Niji were pretty harmless too. It was only a few months in that he was starting to show his menhera side. I see him as a ticking time bomb, honestly.

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>>63295341
The donations got much better during her last 6 months in the company, to the point of people dropping like 500 gifted and dozen akauspas during some of her zatsudans, but before that yeah, she was practiaclly broke. Still, it was mostly her fault since she practically abandoned her audince for like 2 months to do offcolalb and then proceeded to spam handcams, minecraft and zatsudans for 2 more month. I used to be a big fan back in the time and it actually made me drop her for like 5 months untill she came back into the grove and started streaming decent games again.

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>>63295390
Yeah that makes sense
He joined a new company so his personality reset... for some reason

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>vtuber happy
>anons get mad
You guys are a weird bunch

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>>63287890
It's not just that, VShojo makes a lot of hype around the fact that their talents are "free to do anything" but they just stick with the most cookie cutter gaming, talk streams and now cover songs.
Hell Hololive themselves are trying to innovate by hiring people like Raden who's so far detached from a normal holo member, or Hajime who's more into shorts, dances and Tiktok zoomer style content.
Is it just that when you're "free to do anything" you get choice paralysis and just default to following the leader in terms of content?
Is that really what VShojo wants to become?

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>>63293928
well that's the thing right? Hololive fans trust their own oshi's word over everyone else, so naturally we all trust Kanata when she says that the decision was hers alone.
But KSon then decided to post this in mengen which was basically just lying and shitting on cover for no reason.
I'm pretty sure she deleted later it as well, because she knew how people would view it after Kanata clarified her side of things.

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>>63295390
I seem to remember one of the early weirdness was him jumping onto other people's streams being really depressed, and talking about how he only wanted to perform and act happy on his own streams. Maybe he had some success in therapy?

>>63295985
Part of the problem was that her original audience had a lot of Russians in it, and there was that whole war thing that made it so people were really going to have to be careful how to spend their money. And the break got extended by about a month when she got covid in Australia and was forced to self-isolate. She's also never going to get the money other people get while doing actual mother roleplay over the GFE mommy stuff that attracts the paypigs. Decent games isn't ever going to attract enough of an audience for her.

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>>63296621
>Follow the leaders in content
Are you saying that Hololive invented normal streaming like gaming and talking? I don't get what you're saying.

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>>63296621
When was the last Vshojo stream you watched

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>>63296733
>kanata decided on her own to move at an extremely short notice right after she was called into an "emergency meeting" just because her roommate changed her merch supplier,
you have to be deranged to believe this

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>>63296858
Yeah, the russia thing actually hit her pretty badly. I think she even was afraid to addmit that she can speak ukrainian and didn't want to change her Euro timeslot because of that

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>Vshojo discords will ban you for refering to the talents as "Vtubers".
>They are vstreams or simply streamers.

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>>63297122
holodrones don't even watch their own oshi's streams all the care about is big number kek

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>>63297245
no they don't

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>>63297245
You have quite the imagination, anon.

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>>63297245
yes and gunrun will hire the pinkertons to find you and give a good beat.

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>>63297304
>>63297347
I don't care besides being banned. Just wished they had posted it somewhere.

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>>63296733
Like I said before, you're making a bunch of inferences based on incomplete information. I assume kson deleted it because this sort of information shouldn't be public anyway, and I wouldn't object to someone being mad at her about that, whereas a bunch of speculation about her "lying for no reason" just stirs the pot and makes the situation worse.

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>>63279115
>by antis
>all using oshimarks of the nijimales
yeah, antis

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>>63298503
None of them even watch Nijisanji anymore, those were just chinksister jumping on the Luxiem fad

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Did he ever fix his attempt at tax fraud

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>>63298590
He has mentioned getting help for his tax issues, yes. Though he did imply that he's not entirely financially stable yet.

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>>63298570
so you admit it was nijifans harrassing her then

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>>63274826
kson really trying her best to make VShojo look like some creative freedom paradise.

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>>63282133
>Um Achually sweetie, they only spend about 50% of the time bitching about nijis, the other half is bitching about Tempus

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>>63298892
I don't consider a bunch of luxiemshitters to be real nijifans

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>>63282133
thats not true, they also bitch about their own talents that they don't watch

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>>63273301
???

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>>63273301
>Is he throwing a jab at Nijisanji?
kuro and roach in a nutshell

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>>63282133
Nijifags were bullied to the Doxxsite. Holofags stay here with number thread(s) because it's like the edging version of stalking and Idol Culture is all about edging.

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>>63273301
Not really a surprise considering the infamous mismanagement of NijiEN.

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>>63282133
Here's the thing: Shitting on Nijisanji costs nothing, comes with zero repercussions, and can be done in less than half a minute before we're back to doing other shit.

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>>63285313
>he

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>>63314179
a hungry man will eat almost anything and say it is tasty.
dude never even knew what helping management looked like. good on him for finding a better place

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wtf is this thread lmao everyone is mad crying and screaming and shitting and c00ming (at least i am) you mfs look goofy as fuck

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>>63273301
If only they treated Nazuna this good…

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>>63290177
Ant...

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>>63297148
I choose to believe what Kanata publicly said.
Anything else is schizo headcanon.

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>>63324761
Ayo dis nigguh poppin off, this "drama" shiet is full on cap frfr