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Mel is just disappointing me and after all she did this year I am gonna have to drop her

>> No.63123185

>Mel is just disappointing me

>> No.63123228

>>63123079
Nobody will miss you

>> No.63123275

yeah that happened to me as well. i still like mel but i dont wanna watch homocollabs as her regular contents so unsubbed to her. i watch many holo jp members and instead of mel ive now subbed to ririka

>> No.63123290

>>63123079
I've seen her pussy.

>> No.63123300

>>63123079
See you tomorrow.

>> No.63123354

>>63123079
and stop lying you will still watch her.

I got disgusted by Kronii going radio silent and groveling to unicorns but now I can't help but still watch her trash content

>> No.63123359

>>63123079
It's sad that only sisters are left to defend her

>> No.63123448

>>63123354
because you are a cuck

>> No.63123492

>>63123079
Good, shouldn't be more than a casual in the first place, the warning was there.

>> No.63123601

Still gonna fuck her daki.

>> No.63123663

>>63123448
No I am not.

But you just shown you are a person who believes giving money to a streamer equals marriage

Baka

>> No.63123769

>>63123663
not him but i can see you are a reddit retard, go back.

>> No.63123794

>>63123663
I'm calling you a cuck because you are trapped with your oshi and still watch her despite knowing she is shit

>> No.63123871

>>63123079
Why does everyone with the name Mel wind up becoming a grifter and a whore?

>> No.63124721
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>>63123769
>not him
She's not your wife faggot

>> No.63125100

>>63123871
>grifter
she was here first

>> No.63126346

>>63124721
ahh i see you are autistic, nvm then, please continue seething.

>> No.63126417

>>63123354
Cuck detected

>> No.63126838

>he fell for the 'we hate males' thing

>> No.63127493

>>63123079
Based, cucks will try to justify half of her viewers disappearing when she collabs with faggots

>>63123228
I will

>> No.63127535

>>63123079
See you next stream friend

>> No.63127575

the funniest part of this post is that OP probably doesnt even know japanese

>> No.63127620

>>63123079
You see this right here, this is the consequences of collabing with males. The new audience you get are a bunch of sisters who hate the sight of you. They will view you as a new harassment target. That's the audience for male vtubers, the single women who used to be the bullies at school. They're completely insecure about their level of attractiveness. They know that no man will love them. That is why they will attack and try to tear down any women who enters their space. In the midst of it all is the only time they feel happy. They only escape that feeling of inferiority when they are harassing someone. But, in the back of their mind they know what they are, which only further fuels their rage. I know your reading this, seethe.

>> No.63127667

>>63123079
I never watched her to begin with. However, I have masturbated to that outfit of hers several times and will continue to do so.

>> No.63127718

>>63127620
Anon, it’s not that deep. But also, male collabers probably do get a higher amount of those people than normal

>> No.63127888

>>63127575
Actually I think he does and just made a bait thread that's worked really well.

>> No.63127951

Wonder why she went from rarely doing Stars collabs to doing them basically twice a week.
She must be fucking one of them.

>> No.63128145

>>63127718
What I said really wasn't deep, I just made it longer than it had to be so that it would better bait the target.
It's like the difference between manly movies and chick flicks. Manly movies have as little talking as possible, while chick flicks have as much talking as possible.

>> No.63128407

>>63127951
ya me

>> No.63128444

>>63123290
You know the rule, Anon. You can't say things like that and not back it up with a source to prove it

>> No.63128480

>>63127951
Correct, it is I.

>> No.63128857

>>63127951
Rrats say it's Fuma since their Steam accounts have shown them playing a lot of games together for hours, even just 2 player only game, plus it was his birthday stream that was the moment she began doing more male collabs.

>> No.63128912

>>63123354
>you will still watch her.
cmon man we both know he never watched her in the first place.

>> No.63128957

>>63123079
>Another schizo thread about a chuba you don't watch.
This is the final state of a /#/-moneky.

>> No.63129175

>>63123448
>>63126417
>Cucks claiming other cucks falseflagging are cucks
many such cases

>> No.63130365

>>63123354
Grow a spine anon.

>> No.63130911

>>63128957
Everything is # fault, the state of phasecuck.

>> No.63131190

>>63130911
What?

>> No.63131258

>>63123079
You don't watch Mel, you EOP.

>> No.63131275

>>63128857
At least she has good taste, happy for her. And him, but that goes without saying.

>> No.63131317

>>63128857
I'll pay money for porn of these 2.

>> No.63131763

>>63131258
No one does anymore lol

>> No.63131874

>pretending you ever watched mel
>fake outrage because she does a thing you don't like
>it's not her calling card but she's been in that sphere for months at this point
>even if you don't like dudes you can't just enjoy her and matsuri goofing on each other
Just stop

>> No.63131909

>>63131874
Nice headcanon
But what about all the Japanese people dropping her lol

>> No.63131917

>>63123354
Cucked up

>> No.63131979

>>63131909
Who cares, also you or whoever made this thread already outted yourselves, this wasn't even a "collab" Gamma was drawing a picture of Mel, the thumbnail is bait and also a filter at the same time

Congratulations you played yourself.

>> No.63132021

>>63128857
This is literally the only reason guys get into holostars and fight so hard for male collabs lol

>> No.63132139

>>63131979
Insane motherfucker trying to tell people apart on an anonymous website
Who cares isn't an argument
What about all her Japanese fans being mad?

>> No.63132253

>>63132139
Surely you will provide proof for your claim that all of her Japanese fans are mad

>> No.63132307

>>63131979
Obviously, everyone knows that the person who made this thread is not a Mel fan.
Should I point out more obvious fact for you?

>> No.63132414

She's always done male collabs as her roommate, combine that with the fact that homos were the only ones who gave a fuck about her music (which is actually really good), and I'm not at all surprised.
Still fair to feel this way and to drop her, but yeah, that's why you shouldn't fall for this unicorn larp retardation this board seems to love, the "I'm ok with being a literal cuck as long as it's not done with the blue dorito on screen" variety.
Real unicorn schizos were pressing Rushia on her "matching" cups and plates with mafumafu years before the yab. Stop being a literal cuck and you won't be caught by surprise when you become a fantasy cuck too.

>> No.63132614

>>63131909
nip men have shit taste, this has been known for years. why the fuck would I care what they do?

>> No.63133784

>>63132614
>>63132253
Neither of you watch Mel

>> No.63133889

>>63133784
No one watches Mel. She is boring.
People only fap to her sex design.

>> No.63134029

>>63128444
do your reps newfag

>> No.63134475

>>63133784
>run out of arguments
>y-y-y-you don't even watch her
post proof of the mad nip fans faggot

>> No.63134538

>>63134475
Post proof you watch Mel first

>> No.63134819

Mel is absolutely finished. All of her real fans, who watch her, are furious. Soon she'll be one of the least-viewed holomem.

>> No.63135158

>>63134538
so you don't have any proof, got it. .

>> No.63135163

Mel makes Mikeneko look good

>> No.63135195

>>63132414
This, Mel sat largely ignored by most of her coworkers and the HoloBox fans for years. Is it any wonder why she does so many collabs with indies and more recently with Holostars after they gave her music its overdue appreciation? Hololive has never accepted fully, so why should she accept and follow the 'rules' of Hololive?

>> No.63135224

I hope she graduates and goes to vshojo.

>> No.63135248

>>63123079
Never watched Mel, but her Mario Kart Collab was kino so I watched that even if I didn't understand a lick of nihongo

>> No.63135255

>>63134819
>Soon she'll be one of the least-viewed holomem.
She already was you absolute retard, what does she have to lose if she had nothing at all?

>> No.63135301

>>63134819
Back it up with a source instead of shit flinging like a monkey shitskin.

>> No.63135385

>>63123079
Mel eventually realizes she miss her manager in the end. She wants to find a guy that can replace him and continue what he left off

>> No.63135406

>>63123354
Retard cuck have some self respect, you are part of the problem

>> No.63135459

>>63127620
I don't know if this is tongue in cheek or actual projection.

>> No.63135507

>>63135459
More on the latter, but this is /vt/ all you get are schizo ramblings

>> No.63135621

>>63127620
You're describing a female unicorn which isn't any different from unicorns in general....

>> No.63135656

>>63135255
>>63135301
It's sarcasm you geniuses.

>> No.63135657

>>63135195
>'rules' of Hololive
Not really sure why unicorns can't stick to the chuubas they actually watch and not constantly complain about chuubas they won't watch. Unicorn pandering vtubers aren't going anywhere, I don't see why Mel can't do something different when the alternative isn't a rare commodity.

>> No.63136091

>>63135657
From what I've gathered from all the bitching they are worried Mel and others like her are going to act like some invasive virus and slowly bring about the riajuuification of Hololive. Like Ollie but actually effective.

>> No.63136436

>>63135657
Generally speaking, it's changing gears and hostility towards fans that gets people from the outside upset. Because it's a shitty way to treat emotional investment.

>> No.63137352

>>63136436
She hasn't really been hostile though, at worst she had a frank talk and said how the Stars were her friends and if you didn't like the collabs to just not watch and return when she does her next solo stream.
The only hostility is those coming up with rrats and imposing their theories on her motives.

>> No.63137443

>>63137352 (me)
The worst you could say about her at face value is she is woefully ignorant about the full extent of the ill feelings her actions are causing.

>> No.63137624

>>63137352
That frankness is callousness and insensitivity to the feelings of your long time fans. You're just a cuck that supports her whore behavior, but her fans were not satisfied with that response at all. It was absolutely hostile to tell them to fuck off in an indirect way like that.

>> No.63137684

>>63137443
People that are ignorant of their wrong doings are even worse than people that know that with full knowledge, because the ignorant can't even recognize right from wrong and have no reason to change. Fuck off with the whore apologia please.

>> No.63137716

>>63137352
I hope her "friends" will support her monetarily, because she will need it.

>> No.63137766

>>63123079
Shitposters might have actually had a point back then when posting about her and Fuma. Mel wasn't a unicorn friendly but she still rarely collabed with males, like maybe 2 or 3 ones per year, that is until sometime after it got out how she was playing with Fuma off-stream. After that well now as you can see she really ramped up on the homo collabs.

>> No.63137829

I just hope they stop putting her in so much of the official content because she's trash at it. it honestly is too bad but the official stuff one off stuff is commonly jammed with the worst members like mel / aki / matsuri because they all have free time since they aren't as in demand as the good members. I don't think I've like ever seen pekora or marine in one of the weekly en subbed holo channel vids.

>> No.63137849

>>63137624
She treats her fans and expects them to be decently socially well-adjusted. If they don't mean her standards and sperg out, that's on them.
She has these types of frank talks about social etiquette every so often.

>> No.63137920
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>>63123079
The oldest holos are irrelevant anyways. They have a license to just fuck around and do wahtever they want and guess what? They want holoUnity. They want the guys to get some popularity too.

Grow up. Are you gonna attack Fubuki too? Stars are holos too.

>> No.63137935

>>63136436
More like that's the reasonable-sounding justification people give for their spergouts and anti behavior.

>> No.63137987

>>63137849
There is nothing socially acceptable about her giving a blow job on stream. She betrayed her entire audience, but honestly you're just a false flagging troll no point in responding to you anymore. No matter what you say and try to bend reality in your head to believe in, the numbers don't lie and she's losing loyal fans and gaining more anti's than she is gaining fans with her antics.

>> No.63138027

>>63128444
That rule is for new claims. Old ones require archive reps at most, in case you're too new.

>> No.63138030

>>63137849
>her standards
imagine a homo collabber having standards

>> No.63138060

>>63123354
Nah he never watched her. This is just another dramawhore trying to get his desperate fix of (you)s because that's the only way they can live with themeselves

>>63123448
She was never your girlfriend. You cannot be cucked if she was never yours to begin with.

>> No.63138076

I would have called everybody a faggot because we got audio of Mel doing a BJ... but Axel had to ruin it by making her say Axel made me do it on the video, you're literally hearing Mel giving a blowjob to Axel as punishment from their MK game, fucking kek.

>> No.63138095

>>63137920
fubuki died with the remodel jesus christ they fucked her over.

>> No.63138190

>>63137920
>Are you gonna attack Fubuki too?
I will do what I've always done and not watch Fubuki, simple as anon.

>> No.63138197

>>63137829
>mel / aki / matsuri
say what you want about mel but aki and matsuri are some of the best dancers in the fucking company retard

>they all have free time since they aren't as in demand as the good members
> I don't think I've like ever seen pekora or marine in one of the weekly en subbed holo channel vids
because theyre busy you fucking retard

>> No.63138257

>>63138076
This is something completely different from the OP. And Axel didn't even do anything, (well he did collab with her), it was Matsuri who told her to do it and blame it on Axel to get him in trouble.
This is why I can't take 99% of unicorn posts seriously, people larp as real hardcore fans but don't even watch streams and instead have meltdowns over telephoned misinformation.

>> No.63138260

>>63137987
She is losing very little in actual core fans aside from a very loud minority.
Now what she -IS- losing is the HoloBox tourists and neutrals who tuned into her casually, as background or were aware of her but didn't care. That crowd is becoming very negative towards her certainly, but they weren't supporters in the first place either.

>> No.63138362

>>63138030
You'd be surprised, she has had 30-50 minute lectures with chat about social etiquette, how to handle oneself at work and difficult conversations with friends; amongst other things.

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>>63138257
catalog sisters just watch clips looking for ammo

https://youtu.be/27HRBzxe56g?si=yrp2LszEeMcZxL7S

>> No.63138386

>>63138260
She's also losing the people who donate the most.

>> No.63138398

>>63137987
>>63138030
Ogey.

>> No.63138433

>>63138260
>losing little core fans
roru. The brain dead fans, even the most active ones, don't represent her "core" audience nor are they a significant majority. In fact, they're the minority because most people have a spine to not put up with so much disrespect. She doesn't have holobox fans, but she has tourists that watch her casually and are normies, don't care as much and aren't as zealous as her real core fans. You don't even watch her so I don't know why I'm responding.

>> No.63138542

>>63138386
Not really, she lost one big one but that was a year ago for unknown reasons. Her recent birthday? Most SC she has ever gotten. It doubled what she got from her Birthday last year.

>> No.63138578

>>63138257
Do homo defenders always show up when a homo is under fire? Matusir, Mel, and Axel are to blame together, along with the red hair JP homo for drawing her. None of them are innocent. The clip doesn't change anything except note that Matsuri is also to blame. Most people are intellectually retarded like you and can see they all fucked up though, only some retard on 4chan would say Axel is innocent here, or a homobeggar faggot.

>> No.63138714

>>63138578
>Do homo defenders always show up when a homo is under fire?
Because the shit you retards say is stone cold retarded. Hope that helps.

>> No.63138793

>>63138714
At least Japs aren't are retarded as you western degenerate bastards and are rightly calling her a whore.

>> No.63138804

>>63138376
with this, I feel like we have lost the moral high ground over the njis...

>> No.63138977

>>63138793
Nips mock unicorns relentlessly, they call you supapiggu. Based Japan is a meme.

>> No.63139227

>>63138197
>say what you want about mel but aki and matsuri are some of the best dancers in the fucking company retard
So the fuck what does that matter when it's 2d model chatting shit why are you ignoring what the fuck I'm talking about lmao

>> No.63139277

>>63138793
Are you actually using the schizos on sukikira as the gold standard for JP? Are you really? Why don't you go to kiwifarms and get their opinion too if you want shit takes.

>> No.63139409

>>63137920
Everyone is aware some oldest holo is in higher rank in cover, therefore they not only care for themselves but also other talents and company's publicity as a whole, interacting with male is inevitable. Others who don't have to do that can stay on idol path. Unicorn only target whores who choose to become male's cocksleeve, especially those who provided gfe.

>> No.63139470

>>63139277
I don't really care what someone that doesn't watch her and isn't a part of her community has to say. Fans talk where they must, especially since they can get sued when doing it on more open websites.

>> No.63139531

>>63139227
if you want 2d model chatting shit just watch their channel. you said aki and matsuri are the worst members when i just pointed out what theyre great at

>> No.63139625

>>63139531
yes random zatsus are JUST like edited scripted english subtitled holochannel vids.

>> No.63139704

>>63139277
>still pushing this narrative
I mean up to you to believe if you really think everyone's an anti because you can't differentiate between real fans and anti's since you don't actually watch the holo's in question and are just a catalog/general thread monkey.

>> No.63139775

>>63139470
What a fucking larp. Yeah, real Mel fans HATE her doing sexy stuff, give me a break.

>> No.63139790

>>63139625
ahhhh so you just want subtitled stuff i see thanks maybe you should do some jp reps instead of shitposting on 4chan

>> No.63139795
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This Male yab seems to be causing genuine seethe, something I haven't seen this bad since the rushia GTA scandal a year back on /jp/. Like posts that feel genuine in their heartbreak over trolling.

Is it really because it was Mel or is it because a longstanding JP talent who does erotic style content didn't end up meeting your expectations of the entire branch?

>> No.63139835

>>63139790
And you should do your English reps since you apparently can't follow a conversation in English.

>> No.63139956

>>63138793
>outing yourself as a musealim

>> No.63139968

>>63139835
im australian i dont speak english sorry

>> No.63140083

>>63139956
Muslims are based

>> No.63140187

>>63138977
but but the unicorn emotes on 5chan means they like unicorns right?

>> No.63140215

>>63137920
Collabing with the guys is the fastest way to kill the stars careers. StarEN has never recovered from their collabs.

>> No.63140236

What's the Niji yab today, fellas?

>> No.63140320
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>>63139704
I'm directly aware of 3 who have dropped her the last few months and will give you the benefit of the doubt and say it is possible she has lost 100-150 non-SC members. Even then its nowhere near a majority and most are leaving silently. Its just the same handful of you on /here/ making alot of noise and bluster and hopping between /vt/ and /jp/ and bitching and moaning how you can't do it anywhere else since those places are 'too hugboxy' without ever stopping to think maybe you really are the one being the Asshole.

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>>63123079
get out newfag

>> No.63140653

>>63140320
So you're one of those cuckolds fine with her being a whore. Nothing you say matters then and trash like you are the problem. You should be fucking banned everywhere for spreading your degeneracy.

>> No.63140722

>>63140653
Hey everyone check out this fag's deranged rant.
>>62924790

>> No.63141392

>>63140320
Ignoring all the bullshit you're saying, address the problem at hand, which is giving a blow job to a dango on stream at the request of a homo faggot. You can't without exposing your own debased sense of ethics, so you switch the topic to numbers (which aren't even true). All positive trash like you, letting them get away with anything and do whatever they want, are the trash of the Vtuber community and I wish you would neck yourselves.

>> No.63141527

>>63141392
>at the request of a homo faggot
You're still going to pretend this happened even though there's evidence, posted in this thread, that it was at the request of another girl? I know you know what actually happened, but you're bound and determined to stay mad. Why?

>> No.63141735

>>63141527
>Someone else sprouted the idea so the homo is blameless
Luckily, most people aren't as retarded as all positive brain dead simps like you and realize that all members involved are to blame and should be suspended or fired.
If it was just between 2 girls, since most of her fans are coomers and yuri play is fappable content, no one would care nearly as much. Are you really that obtuse or lack the social skills to realize that the crux of the issue was her involvement with the homos? Or are you not just an all positive simp, but also a homobeggar as well so you have to defend the homo at the same time and push the entire blame on the girls?
Fucking disingenous piece of shit, literally kill yourself

>> No.63141755

>>63141527
>everything bad has to be Holostars fault because Holostars bad
>Holostars bad because everything bad that happens is their fault

>> No.63141828

>>63140320
>>63141527
Fuck, if these are really all the fans that Mel has left, that's sad as fuck. Streamer reflects the community and her community is absolutely cancer.

>> No.63141899

>>63141735
You can type as many deranged paragraphs as you want, but you're literally lying when you say she did it at the homo's request. She did it at Matsuri's request. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it, but you need to stop constantly lying and make a coherent point.

>> No.63141909

>>63123079
What's funny is that, really, nobody here watches Mel. Nobody in this board does, hell barely anyone does in general. Yet people are still calling you a newfag retard and rightfully so.

>> No.63141965

You didn't watch Mel before. She is one of the lowest performing mems.

>> No.63141986

>>63123275
Ririka is the purest in her gen, good choice.

>> No.63141992

>>63132614
not like us based westerners! amirite my fellow vshojo fans???

>> No.63142064

>>63140653
>>63141392
You two chucklefucks are so predictable
>Nothing you say matters
>Ignoring all the bullshit you're saying

>trash like you are the problem
>All positive trash like you

>You should be fucking banned everywhere for spreading your degeneracy.
>are the trash of the Vtuber community and I wish you would neck yourselves.

I could care less whether you stay or not yet, but you two bozos should get a fucking room since you are in each other's minds so much. Maybe dream of Mel while you tug each other off.

>> No.63142119

>>63132139
>What about all her Japanese fans being mad?
what fans nigger she has like 1k people viewers at any given point.
>ooo but the nips
oh no, mel lost 2 retarded fans? who fucking cares? are you going to make a thread about iofi next?

>> No.63142141

>>63141735
You sound and type like a xitter tranny.

>> No.63142146

>>63141899
You're trying to argue the nuremberg defence like a fucking moron.
She did it willingly at both the homo's and matsuri's request (even if Matsuri was the mastermind), but people mention the homo because that's what people care about. They aren't so mad at the yuri, they're mainly mad at the homo interaction between them. Honestly its a waste of time arguing with such immoral brain dead simps like you. At least the general public is retarded like you and her actions will reflect in the numbers and her reputation, no matter how relentlessly and disingenuously her simps like you try to twist reality.

>> No.63142184

>>63123079
>me
>I

Sounds like a (You) problem OP

>> No.63142200

>>63142146
>simp
go back

>> No.63142296

>>63140083
Muslims are brown, at least the ones that constantly post in this board. So, following that: no, they are not based.

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There is no real reason to care about this beyond the possibility it starts giving EN bad ideas.

>> No.63142507

>>63140722
Still tame compare to Towa

>> No.63142516

>>63142146
>her actions will reflect in the numbers and her reputation
see >>63142119 she doesn't have any fucking numbers in the first place.
you didn't even know vtubers existed before mel reclined and she never recovered (and you clearly don't know the reason either), these retarded unitard larpers who are actually twisting reality to further shitpost about women nobody fucking watches are fucking pathetic.

the only reason you're getting any pushback for this is not because people give a shit about mel, it's because you're putting a giant sign over your head saying "IM A RETARDED NEWFAG WHO JUST WANTS TO SHITPOST BY LYING" and you're surprised people are getting sick of that.

>> No.63142636

>>63142146
No, the homo at best acquiesced. It was literally all Matsuri.
>people mention the homo because that's what people care about
See how you deflect responsibility? (You) mention the homo because it's what (You) care about, even though you know better, and don't seem to realize that you undermine your credibility by pushing bullshit narratives. I guess I can't blame you because it's a narrative Mel started with her tweet but damn, stop lying.

>> No.63142672

While not ideal, it's okay when a JP does it. We've been over this a million times.

>> No.63142920

>>63135657
That's like doing GFE in Niji, can you see how insane that is now?

>> No.63143007

>>63142920
no

>> No.63143048

>>63142920
That happens? Watch streams.

>> No.63143094

>>63142920
anon.......

>> No.63143147

>>63142920
this is the kind of person shitting up the board masquerading as a unicorn by the way. don't forget.

>> No.63143173

>>63139795
personally its because its the retarded austrailian involved in this I just dont like the guy since hes been a sexpest since almost the beginning, like immediatly people started shipping him with the girls. I also just hate young austrailian men theyre some of the worst people around

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>>63142920
this is gfe

>> No.63143360

>>63138260
Absolutely this. Who fucking cares about the 'Holo big happy family' tourists? These guys might show up to any Holo's streams but they only donate and but merch for their 1-2 imaginary girlfriends, but goddamn do they care so much about the contents of Holomems that they have never financially supported.

>> No.63143403

>>63143173
>I also just hate young austrailian men
hey new zealand bro go back to your own country then

>> No.63143628

>>63139795
This is a made up yab because the catalog-readers are literally making up facts.

>> No.63143917

As is customary, the western cuck, EOP, falseflag brigade is rushing in to put this to rest and dress it up as a nothingburger, deflect the blame to lessen the seriousness, and pretend like this has no effect on Mel. Jap's aren't so stupid though and the stream has already been deleted.
Cover management is in damage control because japs aren't retarded like you western degenerates.

>> No.63143937

>>63142146
>She did it willingly at both the homo's and matsuri's request (even if Matsuri was the mastermind), but people mention the homo because that's what people care about.
There is no way that people are so retarded that they can't understand this, it has to be falseflaggers pretending to be retarded. Mel can suck on anything, shit, even masturbating on stream would be no problem if there was no male on stream with her.

>> No.63143995

>>63143917
>japs aren't retarded like you western degenerates
ywnbj

>> No.63144026

>>63143917
Then why is the tweet of her fellating dango still up retard?

>> No.63144055

>>63143917
>stream
I meant they're starting the censorship. The stream and shit is still up, but cover management is aware of it at least.

>> No.63144156

>>63144055
>patriots in control
ogey

>> No.63144176

>>63143007
>>63143048
>>63143094
>>63143147
>>63143309
Is this a samefag or do you people actually think shit like Rindou doing ASMR negates literally everything else and makes her GFE
The blue apex gremlin has her literal bf on stream and she gets some of the highest SC in Nijisanji despite having no gachikoi, hint hint that's indicative of the niji audience hint hint
Can't be a GFE chuuba without any gachikoi(unless you unironically want to have 0 viewers I guess)

>> No.63144197

>>63144026
Because it's the condition of Matsuri's retarded Batsu. But I really can't feel sorry for her as she setup the collab in the first place.

>> No.63144310

the rage is just sad to watch at this point

>> No.63144335

>>63144176
Please understand, EOPs believe GFE = nice girl

>> No.63144398

>>63143937
>if there was no male on stream with her.
Ah, another catalog-monkey. Truly the enriched melanin experience of don't even watch a clip. She don't pay the batsu on stream. She did in a xitter video, all alone.

>> No.63144569

>>63144055
Can you go into more detail about this?

>> No.63144659

>one of the stars might have bagged Mel
>a girl so hot people from both sexes have basically pushed her down and tried to have their way with her
>so irresistible a manager went full stalker
Based and good shit

>> No.63144717

>>63144176
There are no true GFE chuubas left in Holo anymore either so this point is moot.
But more to the point, if Nijis can do GFE and not be GFE, why can't Mel or Aki or Fubuki or whoever do male collabs and still be idols? Even if it gets low views it only genuinely upsets a very small amount of people, no matter how loud they are.

>> No.63144718

>>63144335
I'd understand that 2 years ago, a year ago, but that's not even true anymore. Moreover anybody who is barges in to discuss Mel and/or NijisanjiJP especially should have been well fucking aware of shit.
who the fuck sees terms like 売り and 営業 and is so retarded that they cannot understand what it means when plenty of vtuber discussion and vtubers themselves mention having it be a fucking BRANDING. It's such a dumb take to see that it can only make me think that those people are being disingenuous cretins.

>> No.63144865

>>63144718
>disingenuous
Yeah, that describes a lot of people here, don't take it personally

>> No.63144891

>>63123079
>Mel is just disappointing me and after all she did this year
he doesn't know

>I am gonna have to drop her
considering your 1st statement op,
you don't even follow her.
stop baiting you dramafag.

>> No.63144904

>>63144717
>there are no true GFE chuubas left in Holo anymore
not the whole package in one, but across the board the box still has all the pieces and a cultural appreciation for them
>if nijis can do GFE
they literally get mocked for it when they do you fucking retard, do you not remember how hard Rindou was shit on when the voice yab happened? do you pay attention at all? she got mocked way worse than this place is mocking Mel when she did her asmrs after that yab.

>> No.63144924

I really, really wish 2020fags didn't speak about vtubers from before their time with such undying confidence.

>> No.63145157

>>63144717
None are as hardcore as Rushia but that doesn't mean they aren't GFE, most Holomems are still GFEtubers just like how most Nijis are cucktubers.

>> No.63145236

>>63128444
Your are colossal levels of new if you haven't seen that bush.

>> No.63145287

>>63144904
No one gives a shit about Rindou fucking Kuzuha anymore my guy.

>> No.63145349

kek

>> No.63145401

>>63144717
>There are no true GFE chuubas
True. There is no Girlfriend Experience in Hololive, just Girlfriend. They are my wives, my girlfriend, and my lovers.

>> No.63145422

>>63144924
And I wish you could stop pretending that those 2020fags(half of which are 2019 fags anyway) being there for 80% of the time Hololive has been around are somehow "wrong" about the culture because Hololive hadn't even made a concrete decision about 箱 branding going forward until a whole fucking year in.
It's fucking incredulous to me that people will go ahead and claim that pre 2020 hololive was some sort of homobegggars paradise
DID YOU MEMORY HOLE THE REACTION TO STARSJP????
DID YOU MEMORYHOLE THE LITERAL "NO INTERACTIONS BETWEEN STARS AND HOLOS" RULE THAT WAS IN PLACE FOR MONTHS BEFORE IT WAS REMOVED????
NIGGERS, ALL OF YOU!

>> No.63145428

>>63144904
You're actually misinterpreting (or more likely, misrepresenting, as you've demonstrated a tendency for that) situation. But anyway that's ancient history and Nijis still do GFE, no clue what you're on about. I guess you have a point insofar as nijifags will shit on people for it.

>> No.63145467

>>63145401
This is where I come in and start the NTR

>> No.63145584

>>63145422
why are you yelling?

>> No.63145706

jesus, holojp is a fucking joke now.

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>>63145467
I already have your chair ready.

>> No.63145991

>>63123079
That's ok. I've dropped like 6+ vtubers this year. You're lucky to only be dropping one.

>> No.63146076

>>63145428
>Nijis still do GFE
Nijis still do ASMR
They do not GFE
Your terminology is all over the place
GFE is a branding, a way you handle your image wrt how your viewers look at you
The closest term to GFE in jp is ガチ恋営業
Saying Fubuki doing ASMR once a month is GFE is like saying she did ガチ恋営業 once a month
Except Fubuki is literally on record for saying she doesn't want gachikoi(during a concert no less)
So unless you think FBK is mentally ill, there's clearly a major fucking difference

>> No.63146269

>>63145287
>now
yeah, now
what about when it happened? fucking red herring tossing shut
nobody cares about Towa being a whore anymore either but guess what she had to ride off the backs of cucked kaigai(most of which have long since left btw) until she managed to establish a brand that is completely at odds with most of her fellow Holomen(there's a reason her fanbase gender ratio is in the top 2 alongside suisei)
Pop quiz:
When is Mel doing the shit she is doing?
FUCKING NOW(comparatively)

>> No.63146341

>>63145808
WHAT THE FUCK

>> No.63146378

>>63146269
>Pop quiz:
>When is Mel doing the shit she is doing?
>FUCKING NOW(comparatively)
what does this mean

>> No.63146416

>>63123354
>watch her.
No, thanks. Buy an ad

>> No.63146423

>>63146269
Trying to understand the point you are getting at, Towa and Suisei are two of the more successful members even if they are out of step with most of the rest of Hololive.
Mel making a move to be more like the two of them...is a good thing or a bad thing?

>> No.63146446

>>63123663
Yes that is genuinely the case, and it's not our fault it's the woman's fault
Vtubers are no longer any single man's woman, similar to a prostitute/
She's the community bike, and she can't give preferential treatment to anyone, everyone gets to ride but no one gets sole ownership.
This is not a new phenomenon, you aren't some radical zoomer for thinking this is unique to this era or profession, women have always existed like this for men, roughly 1/5th of women have survived some type of non traditional communal role in society.

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>>63145584
I've fucking had it with motherfucking 反コーン revisionism on this motherfucking 板

>> No.63146710

>>63146076
Why are you centering this around gachikoi? The issue, for fucking years, has been about unicorns. Some people in Japan blame gachikoi for the unicorn problem but it's only in English I see these terms being used interchangeably. Anyway all that sperging is pointless because no one calls themselves ガチ恋営業 anyway.

>> No.63146942

Why are people so surprised? HoloJP has slowly but surely become more pro stars anti unicorn for the past year.
And Axel is as bad as Vesper only he is smart enough to only go after girls not from EN so the english fans don't notice. Did people forget all that stuff with Zeta?
There is really no hope for being a Unicorn. In a year all the girls across all brunches will be converted, pressured or tricked into collabing with males.

>> No.63147034

it's sad that out of the many whiny cunts on this site who are completely obsessed with the notion of cuckoldry and love to pretend they're japanese, I can recognize this specific one

>> No.63147134

>>63142329
I hope it does

>> No.63147167

>>63123079
I was thinking the same thing the other day, I can forgive an occasional collab but this shit is becoming regular, I put in the effort to communicate with her in superchats despite the language barrier and she can't even just do the bare minimum of keeping her content about herself and not about shipping with male collab partners
She asked us kaigainiki to watch her, I did it.
Now she's asking us to watch male collab after male collab and I just don't want to see that shit anymore

>> No.63147192

>>63147034
くそー、グーグル翻訳使えば日本語になれるよ
kek

>> No.63147257

>>63146423
Towa and Suisei are two successful attempts amidst a bigger number of failures at doing the same fucking shit. And more importantly, they 1) caused heavy infighting amongst 箱推し and DD out of a desire to pull for a branding so at odds with the general direction of their 箱, the collateral of which is difficult to give a concrete number for but obviously exists and was self-evident for the non-blind based on the various discussions across SNS and various boards. 2) BOTH succeeded against the heavy odds due to what could be realistically described as Deus Ex Machina, Towa especially. If the kaigai(who are not almost all now gone LMAO) hadn't kept her afloat for over a YEAR, she would have drowned just like Matsuri and La+. Suisei is another much longer story, but one look at how divorced her fanbase is from the typical ホロ箱 composition and the amount of time it took for her to attain her current level of success AND the support she along the way from being heavily propped up by relationships with holos who fit into the box, including fucking Kanata the unicorn queen herself, was key to her current success and anybody who actually denies something like that is either retarded or outright lying.

>> No.63147291

Cucks are genuinely some of the lowest form of life on the planet. It's almost incomprehensible.

>> No.63147385

mel sex

>> No.63147413

>>63146942
And Holo will still be above Niji even after that so all is right in the world

>> No.63147438

>>63146710
Nobody calls themselves GFE either outside of vtubers who literally are not GFE vtubers and instead label their ASMRs as such or whatever.
Sorry actually no, actually a few indies will, although even among them many will mention how it isn't "GFE"... EXCEPT A FEW FUCKING JP INDIES WILL DO THE SAME SHIT, CLAIMING IT ISN'T "RP"

>> No.63147490

>>63140320
so how much do you give mel?

>> No.63147540

>>63146710
>but it's only in English I see these terms being used interchangeably.
If you haven't seen nips mention how male collabs will fuck with gachikoi too then you don't look around very much at all.

>> No.63147547

>>63123079
Are you just going to argue about it or are you going to do something about it? What's your plan?

>> No.63147616

>>63146942
>he doesn't notice the EN unicorn pressure growing at such a fast pace that is has begun to leak into JP spaces and begin re-emboldening nip unicorns
reps

>> No.63147653

>>63147547
Can you read? He said he'd drop her and he made this anti thread to spread the news so others are aware that Mel is a whore.

>> No.63147674

>>63146269
All you are doing is showing how none of this is a big deal, and if people just shut up and move past it anyone who actually matters stops caring about it. The counter side is having a public mental breakdown about a fucking discord DM and getting fired as a result.

>> No.63147713

>>63147547
You have to give that one mikeneko N5 unicorn credit for at least slitting his wrists and posting it to her tags when she collabed with males. The Mel schizos aren't going to do shit.

>> No.63147777

>>63147034
じゃあ誰なんだ?教えてくれ

>> No.63147912

>>63147674
Except the much more reasonable route is to quietly stop doing the shit that offends fan like that to appease the more forgiving fans of that kind in the box. Not to have a woman moment and go supernova at the presence of criticism and double down.

>> No.63148029

>>63147413
>Holo should become Nijisanji it'll be fine just become nijisanji already holobros
Holoanti sis...

>> No.63148073

>>63147713
>You have to give that one mikeneko N5 unicorn credit for at least slitting his wrists and posting it to her tags when she collabed with males
A lot of them schizo'd in her DM's then oshihen'd, incl me
t. formerfandead

>> No.63148112

>>63147653
if everyone is a whore, nobody is

>> No.63148337

>>63148073
>oshihen'd
To Mel?

>> No.63148350

>>63147616
Unicorn conversation status report.
What sort of things makes you think that? I'm not denying it, I could believe it?

>> No.63148402

>>63148112
This is the true agenda of the cuck

>> No.63148522

>>63148112
That's exactly why sisters always call Hololive members that. It's their insecurity.

>> No.63148581

>>63148350
Literally think about what the term gachikoi means a minute and then think about how you felt when you saw your first crush talking to another guy a lot
Here's a hint; why do you think fan favoritism is so heavily frowned upon?

>> No.63148596

>>63147616
>My mind is mind rotten by the dramafags of this board.

>> No.63148629

>>63148337
nta but I am currently oshiless. I was just one of the faceless masses though

>> No.63148631

>>63148596
Irony~

>> No.63148811

>>63148596
Ironic.

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Mel cute!

Mel cute!

>> No.63148966

>>63147167
>I put in the effort to communicate with her in superchats despite the language barrier and she can't even just do the bare minimum of keeping her content about herself and not about shipping with male collab partners
lmao stupid fuck. You really thinking throwing money at chuubas will make them listen to you?

>> No.63149052

>>63147616
>EN unicorn pressure growing at such a fast pace that is has begun to leak into JP spaces
So EN fags are the true cancer of the vtubing world? Honestly not shocked to here that you fucks are more schizophrenic that the japs.

>> No.63149098

>>63148581
I think you replied to the wrong person. If not, I want to know how you've seen the Japanese fans changed.

>> No.63149158

>>63148966
NTA but that does work sometimes. If your oshi actually cares and isn't in the middle of having a woman moment. You just don't notice the times it does work because people aren't going to shitpost about a person being kind to their fans.

>> No.63149181

>>63148966
>what is consumer/seller relationship
No wonder you retards spend thousands on genshin impact
Zero self respect

>> No.63149217

>>63149098
>how the Japanese fans changed
Do you mean the progression towards being more anti-corn that started maybe a little under 2 years ago, or the more recent slow reclamation?

>> No.63149402

Why suddenly sperg out?
Some girls just enjoy the aspect of the CR/streamers circle and they should absolutely go for it as long as they don't affect other girls.

When was the last time Ayame/Laplus streamed everyday like they did for Vsai? When was the last time Aki had so much fun like she did for VCR ARK?

You have other girls to watch for your own preference, sperging about a few who do differently is just stupid.

>> No.63149408

>>63149052
>So EN fags are the true cancer of the vtubing world? Honestly not shocked to here that you fucks are more schizophrenic that the japs.
>cancer
kys nijisis, your tactic of literally scaring away huge swathes of fans in order to lower Hololive is being ground to a stop and there's literally nothing you can do about it because of Advents debut locking in that momentum for the foreseeable future.

>> No.63149488

>>63149158
>>63149181
>actually throwing your wallet at your supposed oshi and threatening them to stop collabing with m*ales really work!!
Hope to god you never get in an actual relationship with anyone.

>> No.63149543

>>63149052
The ENsharts don't actually.
Nothing they do come to the level of Nips, both for and against unicorns. Irrelevant in general.

>> No.63149629

>>63149408
What the fuck are you even talking about, you delusional retard! You provide absolutely nothing of value. People look at you and wonder why the fuck holo hasn't clean house yet?

>> No.63149659

>>63149488
>business selling you something
>relationship
You need to be 18 etc.

>> No.63149680

>>63149052
It's afraid.

>> No.63149747

>>63149217
I wouldn't mind the first part, but mainly the second part.

>> No.63149811

>>63149543
Then where JPfags when jurard simp'd for peko? Hell, where are the ID fags anytime they interact with Stars? Because all I see are EN schizos crying in their place.

>> No.63149938

>>63149811
Because Americans are stronger than the other races. America is the world hegemon. Your probably from one of it's dependencies.

>> No.63150026

>>63149811
Pathetic larping doesn't make up for extremity. When you say JP schizos it's the kind that actually might end one's career, not whatever funny shit those EN ones did.

>> No.63150091

>>63149629
please understand most unicorns get their opinion from 4chan or translated 5ch pages and cant get the sarcasm from it

>> No.63150142

>>63149938
>america
>race
isnt your main language gonna be spanish by 2030

>> No.63150204

>>63149629
>>63150091
It is comical to me that on a board which has time and time again gone as far as namefagging unicorn paypigs over the course of several unicorn related scandals, you still think deny their existence
Anti-unicorns are like flat earthers

>> No.63150413

>>63150204
>you still think deny their existence
no one deny their existence your just a loud minority like twitter sjws

>> No.63150445

>>63149747
Based on my own long-standing presence in various websites where nips discuss vtubers, anti-unicorn sentiment is not as strong as it used to be roughly 2-3 months ago and I have started seeing messages written by obvious actual unicorns far more often than I did previously. They are also not as poorly received as they used to be. Usually you'd get a bunch of people crying and laughing at them but nowadays depending on the time and place you can even find anti-unicorn posts finding themselves on the "losing" side of a discussion.

>> No.63150508

>>63150142
Which of our dependencies are you from?

>> No.63150532

>>63150413
Who buys merch?

>> No.63150575

>>63150445
Do you have any screenshots? I believe you by the way. I just like unicorns and want to see what they have to say.

>> No.63150579

>>63150508
australia, your staging area for the war against china

>> No.63150646

>>63150413
>loud minority
>unicorn rhetoric has taken over YouTube comment sections, r*ddit, /here/, and has filtered into the space so heavily that the talents themselves defer to it
>unicorn pandering FWMC have the highest SC in not only their gen, but had the most revenue of any POV during sportsfes, even more than Miko(who is also Unicorn pandering heavy but isn't as gachikoi pandering as FWMC)
cope and seethe nigga~

>> No.63150827

i don’t care about muh cuck NTR or unicorn shit, i don’t really feel that way about anyone, even for my oshi. i care though about her giving exposure to an EN homo and i fucking hate EN male vtubing so much i want it to die ASAP, and the less axel and his kind are shilled the better. she should have stuck to just holostars JP

>> No.63150840

>>63150579
Correction, one of our staging areas.

>> No.63150856

>>63150646
>reddit
go back

>> No.63150863

>>63141755
yes. glad you understand

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>>63150575
Well I take a LOT of screenshots and I haven't really bothered combing through them to form a collage of this shit, but here have a freebie I noticed at a quick skim that was pretty funny

>> No.63150982

>>63150646
>unicorn rhetoric has taken over YouTube comment sections, r*ddit, /here/, and has filtered into the space so heavily that the talents themselves defer to it
The funny thing is /here/ is one of the most anticorn places.

>> No.63151072

>>63150827
You will NEVER be Japanese.

>> No.63151150

>>63151072
Good

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>>63150575
>>63150975
oh wait I found another one after a lot of scrolling
I'm not gonna bother doing this further in such a piecemeal way though, I have screenshots in here from various other places including Twitter and YT comments sections and have even used them before across the board and probably will in the future so ultimately just keep an eye out I guess, it's just past midnight for me and I'm gonna get some sleep instead of sitting here hunched over sorting through several dozen thousand screenshots. Hopefully the dates themselves are enough to demonstrate the reality that this is actually shit nips are posting, and it was MUCH rarer to see this sort of shit even 6 months ago

>> No.63151319

>>63150975
You should get a bunch. No one else is going to do it and it really would be useful. You could really make a difference. It doesn't have to be the biggest thing, but you yourself claim that progress is being made.
These anticorns always try to say the Japanese are with them. It's one of their dismissal tactics. A huge part of winning arguments is defeating dismissal. Ones you've got a bunch, make a new thread about it, preferably during American hours, because I want to read it.

>> No.63151364

>>63150975
btw for the EOPs here this says:
>Why is it that hags(sisters, basically) attack unicorns and make them try to watch niji girls? I don't get it

>> No.63151430

>>63151072
>using the tranny comeback to YWNBAW
what's your story troonlord?

>> No.63151450

>260 posts and nobody made a rape correction comment
>unicorn shitflinging
niggers

>> No.63151535

>>63151319
I have tried making several threads with similarish collages and they have gotten nuked off the board within minutes if not seconds.
There is at least one though more likely several meidos /here/ who are directly opposed to OPs that bring up this stuff. They can't control everything but they do make it a habit to remove information opposed to certain narratives from being presented as an OP.

>> No.63151653

>>63150856
After (You)

>> No.63151705

>>63151535
Holy schizo. Nobody is out there to get you and some random comment from some oh very important Japanese anonymous is irrelevant. You'll never be Japanese.

>> No.63151822

>>63150646
We're winning unibros!
Two more weeks and Mel will have slightly less dongo blowjobs!

>> No.63151825

>>63123354
that seems like a you problem. Unsubscribing from Kornii is the best decision i've ever made so far in the vtuber community.

>> No.63151856

>>63151705
The only people irrelevant in this industry are broke anti-unicorns who do nothing but pursue a political agenda or because they're unironic cuckold fetishists who like watching women suck another mans cock and say things like "she was never gonna suck your cock so why does it matter if she gets gangbanged?" unironically without realizing that they're telling on themselves

>> No.63151940

>>63151535
Well you've managed to sneak it in this time. They wouldn't have to censor you if they were all powerful. Keep up the fight.
We shall fight on the threads, we shall fight on the comment sections, we shall fight on twitter and in the reddit, we shall fight all over; we shall never surrender.

>> No.63151981

>>63151856
nta but I don't agree with unicorns because I have a girlfriend myself so I couldn't care less about the streamer I watch sucking someone's cock. If you wanna tell me that's also a hidden cuckold fetish you are just really delusional.

>> No.63152139

>>63151940
>we shall fight on twitter and in the reddit

>> No.63152204

>>63151940
And even if, which I do not for a moment believe, HoloJP or a large part of it were subjugated and starving of good content, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the overseas fandom, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, HoloEN and those Holo inspires, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the Old.

>> No.63152361

>>63151217
American unicorns have guts but are lazy. Japanese unicorns are not lazy but have no guts. Together they would be an unstoppable force. People always called unicorns virgins, but it seems we have found our mate. I ship it.

>> No.63152386

>>63151822
>we're winning unibros
...But we are objectively winning in the EN sphere, though? Lmao.
As for the JP sphere, because of the previous unicorn stronghold, we have enough girls that are unrepentantly unicorn-friendly on that side that it's currently impossible for the fanbase to flip entirely until the anti-unicorn sentiment grows so strong that it starts actively harassing vtubers for pandering to unicorns. Which, as I said, is already impossible, as anti-unicorn sentiment almost hit that level when Kanata refused to speak to or even look at the men during that MC stream but has wavered and wilted ever since.
tl;dr: unless the current trajectory changes, nijiseethe

>> No.63152395

>>63148878
Cute? Yes
As entertaining as watching paint dry? Also yes

>> No.63152466

>>63149402
That’s the best part, anon. The people complaining don’t watch anyway.

>> No.63152476

>>63152204
>Nigga is larping over virtual women and admitted to browsing Reddit

You can't make this shit up

>> No.63152564

>>63152476
hes just fighting the good fight brother, some times you got to suck a few dicks and take a few loads up the ass to show the gays whos boss

>> No.63152620

>>63151981
People call unicorns a minority but non-casual viewers in a relationship absolutely are a miniscule minority. I brought this up before at some point earlier this week /here/, but a vtuber asking chat if they're single or a virgin esp. in a roundabout way is hardly rare, and when it happens 99% of the answers are usually the same. I don't think it takes a genius to guess which answer is the predominant one.
Your situation makes your perspective understandable, I just want to aay that it's a pretty huge departure from the usual situation of a vtuber fan. Like even Kiara got weirded out when a dude akasupad her and mentioned his GF.

>> No.63152721

so where is the link to the dick sucking audio

>> No.63152754

>>63152721
It was dango, and check her Twitter

>> No.63152774

>>63149402
With all due respect, if the difference between them having fun and not having fun is whether they're playing with men or not, that is actually extremely weird. That would be weird IRL too. In fact it literally is considered weird IRL, there are derogatory terms for people like that, especially women.

>> No.63152799

>>63152476
I'm a Hololive fan, not a 4chan fan. Really, I'm a Youtube fan. You think 4chan is any less cringe than reddit. This place is collab begger prime.
Also, read it an weep collab beggar. https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/17xttz6/mom_wake_up_new_holotori_member_just_dropped/

>> No.63152843

>>63152799
lurk for another 54 years

>> No.63152899

>>63152564
Apparently. This dude sounds more of a faggot than any of the guys, and there's actual gay niggas in that branch, sheesh.
Ya hate to see it.

>> No.63152923

>>63152843
The funny thing is, your probably not the most pathetic person in this thread. You are the most pathetic man, though.

>> No.63153098

>>63150975
>>63151217
>>63151364
>see! we're both mentally ill!!
What is this suppose to prove?

>> No.63153164

>>63152923
>not a 4chan fan
wtf is a 4chan fan
>You think 4chan is any less cringe than reddit
because of tourists like you who come and try to turn it into reddit just stay over there

>> No.63153283

>>63153164
Does spending so much time on this website make you happy? It's like a utopia on Youtube, I like it there.

>> No.63153330

>>63153098
>see! we're both mentally ill!!
You say that like it's a bad thing.

>> No.63153462

>>63152620
>People call unicorns a minority but non-casual viewers in a relationship absolutely are a miniscule minority
Is it inconceivable that someone might not be in a relationship but also not have issues with others interacting with males? You make it sound like the unicorn mindset comes from bitterness, that it’s a problem that others people have what you don’t.

>> No.63153465

>>63153283
>Does spending so much time on this website make you happy
yes
>It's like a utopia on Youtube, I like it there.
cool bananas

>> No.63153935

>>63146942
>go after girls
This is all rrats and schizo posting from /vt/. It's all made up by antis who want to stir up shit. How are you this much of a mark?

>> No.63153992

Anybody who thinks /vt/ hasn't become the second most frequented place for vtuber discussion is outright delusional. Too many tourists and too much containment breaking for over 2 years. People should really know how depressingly influential this place and 5ch can be. Hell just remember the events that catapulted Hololive over Nijisanji. Part of it was literally drama about the girls having an offpako with the dudes. And that was ages and ages ago. 4chan just caught up to 5ch.
It's not exactly uncommon to see basically everywhere nowadays. Ironically, a lot of it was propagated by anti-unicorns like DN and BVTM at first. That caused this board to go hard on anti-unicorn stuff for a while, but with the developments of the last year a significant portion of the board and its orbiters ended up being converted by the various drama. Unicorns wouldn't be anywhere near as loud and prominent EN side now if brown anti-corns hadn't spent so much time funneling tourists here in the first place. It's a little funny.

>> No.63154116

>>63153935
So he is wrong about several JP holos who didn't collab with men previously ending up doing something unicorns find unpleasant within the past year?

>> No.63154299

>>63153462
If you are a single heterosexual male who watches an attractive anime girl for double-digit hours every week and claim to have absolutely 0 attraction towards said anime girl, do you not understand why I might call bullshit?
>bitterness
try again, different emotions are at work here. Unless you just classify every emotion you dislike as bitterness in order to smear it, which is obviously not done in good faith.

>> No.63154350

>>63152799
It’s actually funny reading niggers try and dismiss males while making it look like they they aren’t just worried about them fucking the girls.

>> No.63154394

>>63153992
>the events that catapulted Hololive over Nijisanji. Part of it was literally drama about the girls having an offpako with the dudes.
Spoon please.

>> No.63154459

>>63123079
Kek this newfag. Mel has been collabing with stars before even EN debuted, both Holo and stars EN.

>> No.63154476

>>63154350
Look an anticorn that's a schizo. I like how you people always just mind read people.

>> No.63155682

>unicorn larping
That's even more pathetic than being an actual unicorn

>> No.63155785

>>63154394
Niji has big mixed gender off-collab event
Offpako allegations spread fast
Unicorn-ish/gachikoi leave en masse for safer water
.LIVE is kill because of Sio
Hololive climbing at this time, brands itself as idols
Aqua is operating at maximum power at this time
Sankisei cements Hololives status as Rushia and then later Pekora debut and both promise to not collab with guys early on(gens didn't always debut like they currently do, member of the same gen had their debuts separated by weeks and sometimes months)
Hololive booms, especially in SC revenue as gachikoi and unicorns flow in(arguably you could even say that Sankisei, especially Rushia, solidified the existence of the unicorns as we know them in the vtubing sphere, and for this were and sometimes still are referred to as "the cabaret gen" by nijinigs for doing this)
And then the Covid+Coco combo happened and the momentum was unstoppable

>> No.63155803

>>63154299
I never really said anything about this though, you can have an attraction to a vtuber while having realistic expectations. If you want to fantasize about having a vtuber girlfriend, feel free, but if you lose your mind when reality hits thats kind of your own problem.

>> No.63155992

>>63155803
>you can have an attraction to a vtuber while having realistic expectations
Most people aren't masochists either

>> No.63156679

>>63146269
>>63147257
it's pretty delusional to believe someone like, say, Marine or Pekora, who are the most popular ones, has an audience that consists mostly of gachikoi (even if they are a siginificant part), or that they fully depend on it. Hololive is obviously meant to have mass appeal. they wouldn't do all that variety stuff otherwise.

>> No.63158209

>>63155785
But most importantly, they're FUN as a girls-only group, it's what makes them stand out. I personally don't give much of a shit about usual unicorn concerns, but the reason I want them to stay away from male chuubas as much as possible is simply because I fear the opposite path would lead to a shift from that kind of content, into a slop you can get, well, pretty much anywhere else. Fortunately, most girls still get it.

>> No.63158573

>clipfag and /#/fag
name a better combination

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