Holo Domination

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>ISRAEL
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8rcEBzJSleTkf_-agPM20g

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>>6233920
you tried this yesterday, gi back to /qa/ >>/vt/thread/S6215051

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>Cutest Niji is the worst performing
sad
wish Pomu was in HoloEN

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>>6234094
Same. I hate the intern who is only shilling doragon recently.

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imagine being a indie vtuber for almost 1 year and never getting 100k subs and out of nowhere someone that never streamed just gets 200k doing absolute fucking nothing

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>>6233920
Hololive rejects? Hololive rejects

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Do you think Finana already regret her decision?
She has a high chance to join holoen2 just like nene and suisei

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>>6233920
Good to know that people value brand loyalty over talent!

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>>6233920
Nijisanji isn't really at fault, these 3 girls are just bland, 2 zoomers with the most generic zoomer jokes possible, barely any talent, normie tier tastes. Only Pomu stands out but is completly gutted by her design which you forget 2sec after you stopped looking at it. It's a terrible design even by her gen's standard which is quite low.
Overall the EN scouting and the guys who managed the model making are the ones to blame, Niji itself is pretty good usually.
And don't start with the "but they're such great friends, they mesh well" just shut up, anyone can be "friend" when they get a gold ticket to their dream career.

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I FUCKING LOVE CORPORATIONS!

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>>6234147
She already got rejected once.
Standards for joining Hololive probably increased from the first gen auditions.

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>>6234147
Not at all, she's very very lucky she even got in Niji, she had basically no experience (just a forever TBA going for twitter clickbait and drama), and is basically a bottom tier zoomer with no talent that stand out. She wouldn't even go past phase 1 for Hololive.

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>>6234182
Pomu's design is great, what the fuck are you going on about? Are you one of those people that conflates good design with showing a lot of skin?

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>>6234213
Nene got rejected three times but still in
Suisei got rejected two times

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>>6234147
She already failed, and rightfully so, she's just not that special, and if she failed holoEN gen1, she wouldn't even be looked at for gen2, she would compet with hundred of actually talented people who have experience.

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>>6233920
ate you gonna keep posting this everyday, schizo?

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>>6234123
Most Indies have like 500 subs.


None of this game is "fair" and if any Indies think they're entitled to any of this they need to reassess their plans because that's not how this works.

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>>6233920
I kneel

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>>6233920
Why did Niji even believed that it had a chance of winning the western market after they let Hololive have it unchallenged for two years now?
Specially when the best they could is just hire the chubas Cover already rejected.

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>>6233920
What makes Elira so special? She reminds me of a mix of Mori and Ame, both pretty low quality HoloEN girls, but somehow i can't stop watching her be bad at games

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>>6234233
Not at all, plus I mostly watch male Nijis who don't really show that much skin. Her design is just bland, it's literally just a girl, she could be a background character in some random anime and it would fit right in. Which is a shame, because she's the only non-normalfag of the bunch.

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>>6234263
Nene is literally the only expection. Suisei was from a time where the requirements were much much lower. Not to mention EN branches have many more applicants.

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>>6234294
Watch HoloEN 2 have half a million subs by debut and NijiEN 2 underperform even more.

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>>6234265
actually she almost pass the final audience

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The benefits of joining hololive after HoloEN. Wonder if IRyS will be a nervous wreck on the debut with all these expectations on her since she'll likely hit 300k soon. Maybe even get 400k. Poor Anya should've joined later instead of being hampered by ID.

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>Nene got rejected three times but still in
And thank god for that. Nene is a fucking treasure. Unironically really good at vtubing, if such a talent even exists.

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>>6234123
100K sub is gigantic for an indie, talent or w/e doesn't correlate with success, success is a mix of luck, networking(or cryonism), and timing. Talent can make the process a bit faster but you won't make it with the previous criterias. There are hundreds of super talented indies under 2~3k subs with 20 viewers, and they will never make it.

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>>6234341
Any exception is proof that it isn't actually a rule

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>>6234294
>after they let Hololive have it unchallenged for two years now
This. Hell, just ot cite the more glaring examples, Rin and Hana got a massive EOP boost once but did nothing with it. Hell, Rin even pulled a sodapoppin and spammed FF to cull the EOPs. Nijifags are very proud of her for this.

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>>6234416
The opposite, that's why we have expressions such as "exception to the rule"

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>>6233920
Pomu just keeps getting mogged...

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>>6234265
"failure" rrats are a bit silly - all 3 wouldn't fit with Hololive's "vibe" for Gen1, doesn't mean they are rejects. It would be pretty fucking shitty if of 6 thousand applications to the biggest agency there were only 5 good ones.

Lazulight is a cohesive comfy vibe that is never going to attempt to pull in big dick Gura numbers but nonetheless provides a cohesive and unique experience within an increasingly crowded market of chuubas. NijiEN was always going to suffer from direct comparisons and needed to be distinct to be relevant. They pulled it off well.

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>>6233920
literally subbing to a vtuber even if you don't know if she's good, bad or annoying

holoniggers are retarded beyond comprehension

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>>6234367
You bet she will, especially since she has Mori and Gura in the same gen.
I don't like Mori or her songs, but I gotta say her music output is crazy, and she still streams quite a bit.
If you have a Vsinger with a lower output while also not streaming games often, its gonna look bad.

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>>6234468
>NijiEN was always going to suffer from direct comparisons and needed to be distinct to be relevant. They pulled it off well.
Really not the case, they didn't even try to bring any originality. It just feels generic and overdone.
The same formula as everywhere. I was so disappointed.

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>>6234478
Holofags are literally the only people who care about numbers

Imagine if their shark didn't get in, but still kept HER life?
>Hah! only 100k subs? what a fucking loser

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>>6234263
Rejected 3 times isn't exactly right. She only ever applied for the Gen 5 auditions
Auditions said they'd be contacted within 2 weeks after they submitted their audition. After receiving no response 2 weeks after a submissions, she would send her
audition again/a new audition

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>>6234468
>needed to be distinct
By being bland? I mean, it works for Ina and Froot, but eh.

>>6234478
>even if you don't know if she's good, bad or annoying
Anon, the voices in my head told me she's Avril Lavigne. Of course I'm gonna sub.

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>>6234450
This is a myth. Something being commonly believed doesn't make it true. Rules by definition can't have exceptions, you're thinking of tendencies/general rules.

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>>6234094
She makes the most SC.

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>>6234182
Elira is perfection you fuck

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>>6234528
Right, I had hopes but they just went for Hololive Lite, like many smaller companies do, 0 risk taken.
Could have went to Twitch (which is actually a better streaming plateform)
Could have a mix of males and females
Could have original designs, robots, androids, abstract, could have unique talents like painter, could have had ESL like europeans, someone that focus on book reading with an audio soundscape they prepare in advance. The list goes on and on. But no, just 3 generic girls with generic designs like you can find anywhere else. What a waste.

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>>6234538
>>6234478
Take care not to overdose on copium there

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>>6234182
this

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>>6234265
Finana is like Gura few years ago. She's incredibly new but has great potential.

Hololive is too much about experience these days.

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You think this is mogging, wait until Gen 2 proper and see how much more humiliating its going to be for Nijis

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>>6234678
>too much about experience
>Watson
>Ina

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>>6234734
Well those 2 did have a lot of experience actually.

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>>6234182
Complete bullshit retard. If they were Hololive they would be 5x more popular. It's all about the brand.

Ame has literally zero talent and she's garbage at streaming games. Same with Kiara.

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>>6233920
>>6234699
>>6234147
I don't think those 3 girls feel bad, they know they would have never been good enough for Hololive, and Niji or lower agencies were their only hope. They should be happy to even have been given a chance there.

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>>6234147
she was never gonna make it in holoen
she has no experience and doesn't really have the charisma as the rest of her wave, she's lucky she's in at all
but this also means the bar for holen auditions has been raised drastically, nothing that wasn't extremely popular before is going to make it in
the new vsinger apparently had multiple covers with 100m+ views, you just know they're going for the big ones from now on with how Gura turned out
someone like Ame is never going to make it in hololive now

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>>6234734
>He doesn't know about his own oshi's history
Eat Dango you retard

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>>6234734
Anon, Ame has been vtubing for 4 years, even before Sachi.
Even if you don't like her, she has a lot of streaming experience, thats why she's bringing a lot of stuff to hololive, like streamElements integrations, 3DVR with proper home tracking, innovative stuff like her Youtube plays pokemon during the outfit reveal, etc.

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>>6234774
I agree that Ame has nothing but her experience, which was probably why she was taken, to help others, she's nothing special as a streamer. The 4 others however are high spec.

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>>6234356
They are getting high SC and their average viewers numbers are growing actually. 90% of Hololive subs are dead subs. And getting around 2k live watchers is normal for average JP Niji standards.

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>>6234756
Ina had experience as an artist and connections there. But zero streaming experience.
And she still mogged the chicken.

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>>6234734
Your reps retard.

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>>6234882
>>6234734
Ina has been streaming herself drawing for years, with many different avatars too, tried 3d as well. I'm surprised some people still don't know that. She had like 20 viewers but still.

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>>6234955
Well 20 viewers is more than 95% of indies so that's something.

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>>6234854
She's cute and a good streamer if you like her style, thats all that matters.
Plenty of JP holos can't sing or draw, nothing unusual here

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>>6234123
Most Indies have less than 5k after a year. Yup even good ones

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>>6234182
You realize you saying that when they're being put against someone who literally never streamed, right?
Holofags are just retarded numberfags that subs to every new holo to fill them with deadsubs

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>>6234478
subbing doesn't really cost anything, the bell notification is there to remind me of important timings. You can just unsub later.

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>>6233920
I am a Holofag, but I feel kinda bad for Nijis watching this threads, so I won't gloat or anything like that for this.

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>>6234955
>Rrats/Numberfags
>Knowing anything
They literally stare at biggest number and claim supremacy over nothing. They'd cheer for Annoying Orange if Hololive picked that meme up

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>>6234854
Mori is a failed indie rapper. Kiara is a failed idol.

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>>6234147
>Risk being a random indie when you have been accept and are doing fine in Niji
You're a retard.

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>>6234824
t. kfp

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>>6234857
>>6235057
>Muh dead subs
Niji faggots are so pathetically predictable

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Fina has the lowers SC numbers and barely ever streams over 2h since she's raiding in XIV yet she still make over 10k $ and bought a 3k $ new PC. Hell, Pomu made like 30k already. Oh the poor NijiEN how can they survive.

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>>6233920
Elira is a great streamer, she has many talents
Finana is very cute and is improving every day
And I like Pomu more than I have ever liked a chuuba.

And for IRyS I hope she is great and is very successful

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Why are we bullying the NijiEN girls? They are all sweet and and they never did anything to cause conflict. We should have no reason to actively dislike them.

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When I actually watched NijiEN I realized they were so much better than all HoloEN, especially when they're together. Gurame wishes they had 10% of the chemistry between Elira, Pomu and Finana. It really comes to show how much the Hololive brand carried the mediocre HoloEN streamers.

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>>6234302
>Her design is just bland, it's literally just a girl, she could be a background character in some random anime and it would fit right in.
She's simple, sure, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. I like simple designs. Not every girl needs to have some crazy complex design.

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>>6235103
>be Mori
>1.5 million subs
>6-8k people watch you outside collabs

Hell, Gura struggles to break 20k these days.

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>>6234809
"good enough for hololive"

because sure kiara and amelia are full of hidden talents

"woooooo she's lesbian for Calli amazing!!!"

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>>6234123
Staying under 5 viewers is the default state of all indies. Very rarely, someone break trough either from pre existing connections or a lucky clip or a random raid at the right moment. Then if they're good and stream regularly they can keep some of the new people and maybe reach 20~30 viewers after a while. If they manage to build a network with bigger chuubas, some of them can hope to even reach 50 to 80 viewers tho that's already less than 0.1% of the initial group. The ones who make it further are such a rarity that it's not worth mentionning, a combination of knowing the right person, having luck at the right moment, and of course trying their best just like thousands of other.

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>>6235197
Only retarded tribaltards do this shit.

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>>6235103
"Muh numbers = quality" is a far more predictable argument though
Meanwhile Pekora has far less subs than Gura, yet she is inarguable the best talent on Hololive
Hell even that hobo Ame offers more variety and time on her streams than shark, but somehow everyone will flex numbers

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I don't really understand why the NijiENs talk like complete zoomers. Not even Ollie is that... extreme? I don't really know.
Pendora's latest Minecraft stream is the perfect example of this, as she was playing with Pomu. It feels they're complete amateurs, I don't know.

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>>6235197
They are Niji, so hating them should always be the default

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itt every game company should just get bought out by EA games

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>>6235253
Elira and Fina are like 18-19. Fina is supposedly barely 18. Hololive girls are almost twice their age.

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>>6235260
Being a Nijisanji member isn't intrinsically a bad thing. Tell this to the Holo JP girls who have collabed with Nijis before.

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>>6235222
While I'm no fan of Kiara she definitely stand out. I agree Ame is just yet another variety streamer you can find hundreds of anywhere, she had the only strong point of a long experience streaming nearly every day.

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>>6234123
She tweeted :||

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>>6235103
Go watch your oshi instead of shitposting here, maybe she can break 5k viewers despite having over a million subs

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>>6235260
Holy autism, HoloJP collabs with Nijis all the fucking time.

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>>6235252
>>6235207
>Pekora is an honorary Niji
>Gura's success is underserved
Its hard to tell between nutsakis and Nijiniggers nowadays.

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>>6235253
>acting out their characters like they were planned
>amateurs
So they are amateurs for doing their job so convincingly that you believe them? Sounds like very good professionals
They studied the market and you just aren't their audience.

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>>6234824
>she was never gonna make it in holoen
Let's be honest, a flash fried shoe could make it in Holo en. It would get at least 100k viewers per 24 hour endurance stream and everyone would vibe to its lo fi bgm beats. It's funny because it's not a joke. Flash Fried Shoe would've probably broken the 5 million mark before Gura ever hit 4. This is the power of branding.

That's why everyone shits on Holo en, because their numbers are seen as a huge buff encompassing 50 to 99 percent of what their actual popularity would be as a comparable indie. Ayame understands this, which is why she gives zero fucks. Nothing they do matters because inertia will carry them forward.

Niji gets this to a far lesser extent, but it's still present. The agency buff will always be a huge boost to talents, as talents will always join an agency more powerful than themselves.

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>>6234123
If she came out of nowhere and never did anything she wouldn't have made it into Hololive. You're only seeing the crazy results of the brand name but not any of the hard work she put in to get here.

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>>6234734
They've been streaming for years, & Watson has her own 3D setup.

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>>6235253
>>6235294
I'm really feeling so disconnected from those super young chuubas, I just get hard filtered by zoomer talk like this, I feel I'm not even speaking the same language. Sometimes I see zoomers just scream random nonsense at each other for an hour without any purpose or meaning and somehow people think it's peak comedy. Why.

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>>6235253
you sound like you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about

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>>6235344
Yup stands out as being a kike with stereotype nose and greed

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>>6235453
So what, a german kike vtuber that's an untapped market

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>>6235320
oh no no anon don't tell them, the're gonna betray their holo streamers

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>>6235434
My dad talked about this shit happening to him in his mid 30's. Now it's happening to me in my early 20's. It's the fucking internet accelerating this shit

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>>6235434
This generation grew up literally connected to their smartphones.

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>>6235074
They did pick up Kiara tho

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>>6235344
careful, you're gonna make the teacucks butthurt

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>>6235490
Aren't matsuri and hoshikawa fucking?

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>>6235381
>honorary Niji
Got it, so anyone you don't like is this Nijisanji boogeyman

And no one ever said shark's success is undeserved, just that you retards corelate Sub numbers to quality

Who makes the most music? 1.2M odd Mori
Who is the collab queen that opened the door to JP/ID for EN? 1.0M odd Kiara
Who is a world class artist commissioned by companies now? 1.0M odd Ina
Who is the one on EN side who makes most of their inhouse collabs, creates the most unique segments, and is arguably the only one who plays actually good games fully? 1.1M odd Ame
Who has 3M Subs? 3M odd Gura

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Imagine complaining about zoomers in nijiEN when gura has spent the past 30 mins talking about coagulated slime and licking play-doh

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>>6235575
Only in matsuri's dreams

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>>6235434
I'm over 30 and I have no trouble following them. You're probably just retarded.

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>>6235575
You wish Festival.

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>>6233920
I feel sorry for these girls; they deserve a lot more success (especially Pomu)

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>>6235605
Yes, that's why I only watch Ina and Mori in HoloEN. Well Mori is young but doesn't act as such.

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>>6235605
She just woke up too....and it's 9:30PM in her area

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>>6235207
>Hell, Gura struggles to break 20k these days.
You say that as if 20k isn't almost twice as much as the next biggest EN vtuber. Valkyrae and Pokimane, the of the biggest female streamers in the world, average around 20k on twitch.

>be Mori
>1.5 million subs
>6-8k people watch you outside collabs
People sub to her for music, not streams. Still gets 30k for a karaoke stream tho.

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>>6235544
I mean what is there to be butthurt about? Its a tried and true formula of being a good streamer and being cute, pretty common for hololive JP. Some poeple care about talents outside of that, some don't.
She got to 1M 4 months before Ina and Kiara and is loved by a lot of people.

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>>6235421
Please justify your sub to her then, aside brand what convinced you to sub to someone who never delivered any content? Would you sub if she weren't on hololive?

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>>6235669
No one deserves anything in life.

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My favorite vtuber is lucky if she gets more than 150 live viewers, and just the fact that she can even reach triple digits at all puts her in a good spot.

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>>6235575
No, but not 1 hour after collabing with Matsuri and spurning her advances, Hoshi got finger banged, groped, made out with, and was stripped on mic by Gundou,....and all that was before Hoshi managed to end the stream

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>>6235751
150 is top tier for an indie, she basically made it already. Be happy for her.

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>>6235669
Tell her to become the next Coco then. Become the next vtuber to bring real innovation to the scene.
Nijisanji streamers have the freedom to do that compared to Hololive right?

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>>6235421
this

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Watching Nijiniggers reaching for straws trying to say their EN expansion wasn't a huge flop is hilarious, I can't wait for HoloEN Gen 2 so I can laugh at you faggots even more when these three whores completely become irrelevant, maybe then you faggots can still shilling them in very Holo thread.

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>>6235669
They are doing fine anon, stop assuming the numbers game is the only way to success. Before HoloEN, 100k was extremely healthy, and 50k was considered well off
Pomu is reportedly quitting her job to stream full time after her "business", and the other 2 are being courteous and matching Pomu's energy

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>>6235836
Sorry Anon, Pomu has to wage 9 hours per day so she can prevent going bankrupt after her double masectomy and breast reconstruction

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>>6235750
Not true. Your mum deservers at least three cocks. Up the asshole. By me

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Little disgusted by how this place is basically just full of hololive drones. Everything is hololive. Imagine in every conversation about youtubers someone brought up xqc or pewdiepie in comparison.

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>>6235669
>>6235836
>>6234648
That's what I hoped from NijiEN, something new, something different, Niji is supposed to have more freedom. But all I got was this basic generic Holo style I've seen a hundred of before. No risk at all. I'm so disappointed.

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>>6235669
They are doing perfectly fine and actually growing.

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>>6235421
*Reine has entered the chat*

>>6235917
It's hilarious that Veibae called /vt/ a hololive containment board and everyone scoffed at her back then

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>>6235937
You don't watch them

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>>6235751
My favorite vtuber get's 60 on good days. Usually stays around 50s.

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>>6235994
You're right, I usually fell asleep after 10min, a shame really.

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>>6235917
Maybe people shouldn't have been so harsh to them pre /vt/, It feels like karma to me especially for Niji elitist

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Niji will always play second fiddle to Hololive from now, get used to it

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>>6234182
>normie
fuck off my board, normalfag

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>>6235294
I'm hard filtered by zoomertalk then. Well, there's vtubers for everyone so it's not that important.

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>>6235917
I bring up Hololive because they're the industry standard. I'm bored of their style, they're good at it but I want something different, backed by a company (indies already provide a lot of "something different" but often with 0 budget or support). Niji just went basic holo route and I'm resentful for that.

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>>6236038
Funny how you say this when fish just had her two best streams ever.

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>>6233920
dead branch kek

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>>6236110
It's not hard to do your "best stream" when you start from so low

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Honestly all it takes are some dumb clips to go viral for them to skyrocket. The average viewers are incredibly vapid and not really into the vtuber/otaku scene.

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>>6236124
They get more viewers than half of JP and way better SC. You fags have zero grip on reality.

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>>6235749
But I didn't sub to her. I don't know what she's about, but the people in Cover's recruiting department, the same people who assembled the now world-famous HoloEN, do know and they decided to pick her out of presumably an extremely large pool of applicants for a highly coveted position. Their word carries a lot of weight these days so I don't blame anyone for trusting them.
And also yes, if I had actually known about her beforehand and I had liked her content I likely would have subbed.

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>>6236142
You don't watch her.

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>>6236142
>>6236110
I just made my 2 best breads ever, a bite won't instantly send you to the hopsital this time

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>The people in this thread number fagging it up probably have 0 idea of roommates account because it isn't in the millions. without being spoonfed by the kinder /vt/ fucks
And i shed no tears

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>>6236043
People were harsh because they were the only ones who couldn't stay on their fucking global

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>>6236224
I tried and god I wish I got this time back. I still see her sometimes by watching Pomu and it's a pain every time.

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Did any of the NijiJP streamers shill NijiEN (besides Hoshikawa)?
Because HoloJP is certainly shilling the vsinger right now.

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>>6235937
Time to actually watch the NijiJP people. because that's the content you like. You just need to train aural stuff, you can understand 70% of the streams if you study for like 3 months. But speaking, writing, reading is a whole different ball game

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>>6236256
Global moved too fast to be usable. That's why vt exists.

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>>6236284
I wish Pomy got better coworkers, she basically have to carry her whole gen alone.

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>>6235749
>justify your sub to her then
the Hololive brand name. That alone tells me she's someone worth watching

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>>6236297
Unlike holos they're not contractually obligated to push the new girl
But yes, some jps talked about nijien and they got some stuff going on with kanae including private meetings with some senpais

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>>6236298
I used to watch Eilene stuff, and it was really something unique. Guess that kind of style doesn't really exist anymore.
>>6236297
Niji isn't as thight with each other as Hololive, it's a bit more chaotic, with small cliques here and there, so it's unlikely.

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>>6236337
Please forgive. Talent people have big ego and much arrogance. Humble people no talent and much safe.

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>>6236178
>>6236178
>They get more viewers than half of JP and way better SC
Imagine being this wrong. If you said HoloID I would agree with you, though.

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>>6235406
Yeah but something has to make that brand has the worth/value. It doesn’t just magically happen over night.

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>>6236383
Funny when 95% of the subs don't watch the streams

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>>6236337
I was gonna say Elira does the heavy lifting, but each of them bring their own talents
>Elira is actually good at games
>Finana is good at art and loves keyboards, also certified midget sex demon
>Pomu is pomu (and no i'm not insulting her, she is a wild card in the best possible way)

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>>6236297
Niji are competitive against each other and think of themselves 1st, I mean there are Holos that are selfish (Pekora, Ayame) but the majority of them are supportive to new talent and very open without worrying about being replaced or anything

Why would Kuzuha or Mito push Fumi for example? you won't see much of that even now, but every once in awhile a holo will say "you should watch Mel/Aki/ etc. streams" after a collab regardless of sub /view count.

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>>6236403
Eilene was beyond vtubers, her stuff is problematic to modern YouTube in a whole, unless you like working for free you won't see anyone doing this kind of content on YouTube anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>6236383
Just tell us you wear Supreme clothes, own an iphone, drive a Tesla, and think how great your political views are you retarded sheep

[Anonymous No.]

>>6236432
It happened over years due to the hard work and viral popularity of a handful of chubas who dragged the rest up with them. Those chubas are still.holsing down the fort, but hololive is filled with leeches due to their dartboard strategy. They didn't carpet bomb like Niji, but some holos are objectively worth more than others.

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>>6236085
You will need to provide more explicit descriptions of what you consider to be different. More often than not, indie vtubers don't provide anything that hololivers don't. The most important things I now desire would be:
- Top-tier singing (Hachi etc.). IRyS was hired to fix this.
- Top-tier FPS. Botan was supposed to fix this but she refuses to stream competitive FPS more than once. You have to look to the male vtubers for top apex games.
- Top-tier skill at unexplored genres like RTS and fighting games. I can't think of any prominent vtubers that do this.

At least Calli is doing something great with her TTRPG storytelling.

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>>6236464
>Funny when 95% of the subs don't watch the streams
why do people push this? there's a thing called time zones, do you think 100% of Gura's 3 mil live in the US? no shit she doesn't have a live view count of 3mil during live but a 10- 20k average is really good.

realistically there is no such thing as "dead subs" as people would only sub something they think is worth checking out from time to time.

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>>6236415
Faggot my favorite JP Nijis struggle to keep 1k viewers. There is maybe 10 that have Hololive numbers, and 100+ who are nowhere near.

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>>6236469
Fina is good at games too. Comparing her to Ame, Mori or Kiara where it's fucking painful to watch sometimes is like night and day.

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>>6236546
NTA, but personality is more important than talent. Some people get popular literally just because they're funny or fun to listen to, and that in and of itself is a ridiculously valuable trait. It's not always easy to quantify what makes someone popular.

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>>6236584
Mirei fan?

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>>6236415
check how much Elira and Pomu made in SC in june. Pomu got more than half of HoloEN and quite a few HoloJP, she was one of the highest supad niji females.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't imagine the pressure that this girl must be in right now. She could possibly have 300k subs before debut and on her debut she may very well have 150k people watching her. That would drive me crazy.

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>>6236712
Anon, HER was getting like 200 people watching. Then suddenly it's 20k on bad days. It's all about brands. There is a reason why adverts for everything are everywhere. Humans are like sheep.

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>>6236546
There are indies for every niche you can think of.
Sport commentary indies, RTS indies (they exist, they just have sub 20 viewers usually, people like Melchior, Symmakos, even Guardian ZET who is a bit more popular), poetry chuubas, Tabletop chuubas, text-only chuubas, geopolitical chuubas, versus fighting chuubas
And that's just the content, the delivery can also be pretty unique. Honestly there is an indie for anything you an think of, but 99% of indies have less than 20 viewers and you have to find them yourself which require effort.

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>>6236712
I agree that personality is more important when it comes to general popularity. But I was speaking about what I want personally. For late-comers, having top-tier talents at something would be a good incentive for me to check the vtuber out, because I already know a lot of vtubers with likeable personalities.

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>>6235320
Nice try nijinig, don't you have a niji to stalk?

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>>6234126
Finana straight up confirmed she was a HoloEN reject in her old account

[Anonymous No.]

>>6236801
It's always like this at the start, check again in 3 months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6235917
Welcome to the hololive board, sucks to be you

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>>6236765
Emma, Alice, Ririmu,

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>>6236862
I've even found a vtuber that teaches advanced linguistics and one that is a bunch of pixel on the screen and speaks a language he created and that like only 5 people that know him can speak.

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>>6236907
Can't have actual young girls after all. Everybody must be close to 30 because muh experience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6236546
>Top tier FPS Botan
You are a retarded fag, you are calling a fucking XBox controller person a top tier FPS player you fucking mongoloid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6236256
What's with nijiniggers and trying to rewrite history?

[Anonymous No.]

Damn, how does Hololive do it bros?
>Management BS
>Less game permissions
>Almost non existent freedom
>Barely creative
>Shit tech
As opposed to Nijisanji, why are Holo's mogging Nijisanji?

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>>6236546
One thing I was looking for it story tellers, like reading a book but with ambiance soundscape, effects, good voice acting of different characters, using the model expression and if possible accesories to represent them. Arypie kinda do that but still not to the fullest. Polka tried something but still not pushed that ar.

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>>6236559
>why do people push this
Nijiniggers gotta nijicope somehow

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>>6237036
Holy fucking shit how new are you? Do you really not know who Botan used to be?

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>>6237036
>botan
>not a top tier FPS player
https://youtu.be/ZLeyXW_6-Yk

[Anonymous No.]

>>6237079
Unironically it's dedicated chinese clippers who made Hololive popular.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6235197
It's 4chan. Everyone get's bullied. Even no name indies.

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>>6237079
Because nijisanji can't do overseas promotion for shit

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>>6237191
Neither can Cover fans did it for them.

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>>6237036
>he doesn't know
https://youtu.be/Li7f52WhoqM

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>>6236985
>Emma
Ah I see you are a cultured, high IQ, distinguished individual. Excellent.

Haven't really watched Alice after she came back. And have never watched Ririmu, I'm assuming you recommend.

Also Ririmu and Emma are never below 1k.
Alice and Mirei are very commonly below 1k.

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>>6237160
>isn't even out of gold in Apex despite playing it non-stop
Yea man, "top tier" of a stump lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>6237260
Emma hovers around 1k. Ririmu is usually a bit higher but not 2k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6237191
Hololive moments made them popular. Cover had nothing to do with it.

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>>6237256
>>6237116
>>6237160
You faggots are fucking retarded. She was never a top tier FPS players. You save titles like that for people like Rapha, K1llsen, Serious, Sayaplayer, S1mple, Niko etc. Please kill yourselves

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>>6237408
Ha good one, don't quit your day job

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>>6237412
seethe, go suck their dicks if you like them that much faggot

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>>6237238
Cover does significantly more outreach to their overseas fanbase than nijisanji ever did, whose attempts at outreach seem more like a 70 year old boomer who's never touched a computer before attempt to use Facebook for the first time

[Anonymous No.]

So what do Gura fans even hope to do during chat sessions? even as t3 members only stream watch, you probably don't get to talk to her directly

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>>6234123
It's the power of corporate backing, anon. You trade your freedom for a virtual guarantee of success.

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>>6237648
When Gura goes to JP, do you think she will have "VIP Fans" that want to "meet" her?

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>>6237555
That only started happening after people were already clipping them.

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>>6236880
Literally how new? Nijis are Holofags and Holos are Nijiniggers. Everyone knows this.

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>>6235057
Deadsubs that the pathetic Nijifags would literally kill for. More subs means more viewers and more deadsubs, you can’t have one without the other. Bigger audience and the percentage of deadsubs increases, everyone has deadsubs but the Nijifags just have no viewers period. Unless you are Kizuna AI in that case deadsubs are all you have, kek.

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I watch both and honestly seeing those Holodrones acting like Hololive is perfect and Nijis suck is just fucking pathetic.

Look how terrible and awkward HoloEN collabs were for fucking months. Meanwhile Lazulight collabs are great from fucking first week.

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>>6237760
>Nijifags just have no viewers period

2-3k is something 99.99% of vtubers would kill for. Pomu made 30k $ in SC already.

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>>6237848
>Finana's trainwreck 7 second "debut" was better quality than Mor's interview with TT

But let's stop kidding ourselves, Niji EN and Holo EN are gonna collab, Lazulight with Trinity, and then, just like wiht Holo JP/Niji JP, this shit will dissapear and suddenly Holofags will be talking about PP energy or how much they want to bury their manhood inside the midget fish and paint her womb sperm white

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>>6234774
They're entertaining. Dragon deez nutz and random autism isnt.

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>>6234824
>the new vsinger apparently had multiple covers with 100m+ views
Hmm. Wonder if it's amalee

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>>6237954
I unironically want HoloEN and NijiEN to collab so I can watch /vt/ tribalfags seethe more

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>>6238056
it's not, they're already shitposting her previous life on other threads

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>>6237954
Those were tech difficulties. Launching all three at once was just a mistake. They had great chemistry from the very first collab.

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>>6234824
>the new vsinger apparently had multiple covers with 100m+ views

One with 100+. Another with 20.

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>>6238118
Although all the circumstantial evidence basically points to her, it would be pretty funny if it was someone else altogether.

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>>6236559
>realistically there is no such thing as "dead subs" as people would only sub something they think is worth checking out from time to time.
as a former holofag I subbed to all holos but only consistently watch (and membered to) marine and coco (RIP), sometimes I watch pegor, FBK, korone, probably there are a dozen holos whose streams I watch for more than 20 minutes overall. solidarity sub sentiment is stronger inside core holofandom in general I think. by contrast even today when I have largely abandoned holos in favor of nijis, VOMS and indies I really only subbed to people I actually watch because I'd have too many subs hanging around otherwise.

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>>6237954
Trinity wants nothing to do with outsiders (Ina was a huge Pikamee fan so she was the exception).
NijiEN keeps trying to strike up a conversation with HoloEN on twitter by constantly commenting on their tweets.

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>>6234182
>dissing Kuchad Ichigod's design
>the one who had his hand at designing perfections also known as Kancolle girls
>he didn't play KC back in 2013-2015 when it still had soul and he never came across his girls and remembered him and all other KC artists to appreciate their works in the future like he should have been
Holy normalfaggotory...

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>>6238222
I'm a fucking retard that can't do my reps, can someone feed me a clue?

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>>6234182
HOLOBASED

>>6234233
>>6234468
>>6234678
Coping this hard is not healthy.

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>>6238270
Search Renai Circulation on Youtube and sort by highest views.

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>>6235751
>>6236034
Reading this makes me appreciate my favorite's 300~600 numbers more. Corporates really warp your sense of scale, I guess.

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>>6238397
Autism. You retards will feel really stupid once Hololive old guard starts graduating left and right while NijiEN new gens keep getting more successful. They are inclining literally right now.

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>>6238247
>Trinity wants nothing to do
In the rough words of Ame over the AX business
>"It's not up to me, i work for a company, and sometimes the company wants to do things not everyone likes"

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>>6237412
You're the only absolute retard here.

It's like asking for a tekken vtuber that is as good as Knee or JDCR or Arslan. Are you just flexing that you watch tournaments like everyone else? What a baby. You want to name drop more people to impress who here exactly?

I'm clearly not asking for a tournament player as a streamer. I'm not even looking for tournament streams (those already exist). I need a streamer that is focused on streaming and good enough in public matches to be entertaining to watch (the exact percentile can differ), across many different games . And Botan is such a streamer. Or at least she used to be in her past life.

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>>6238409
Honestly she's a super obvious choice, but I can't picture her with this avatar. It might be someone else. I give her 60%.

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>>6233920
It hasn't even been a day yet!

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>>6238503
EN management tells them not to collab with people not the other way around. Exceptions happen only if they really push hard for it like Kiara or Ina.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6234182
can you not shitpost with my wife's friend thanks

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>>6238435
More like HoloEN (which is the reason for >80% to come here) warp their sense of scale. There are smaller agencies and corporations than Holo, Niji, and VShojo and they're doing just fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6238505
You said "Top-tier FPS" words have meaning you know? It's not my fault you have braindamage and can't form logical sentences

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>>6238247
We know their mods were banning collabs over everything. That one Amogus with JP and ID ruined possible collabs for months especially for Gura. Coco was outright banned until she told them to fuck off and quit. Just watch how angry Coco was at this bullshit in her Kiara talk show.

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>>6238569
She'll take whatever avatar they give her and she'll shut the fuck up about it

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>>6234147
Finana got to play games with Kanae offline so no

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>>6234094
Jesus with all the thread about her here I expected her to be the most subscribed. What happened?

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>>6238409
Thanks for the hint. I'm not sure if I'll label her as big tho, her channel has been pretty inactive in recent years and her cover numbers are all over the place. Do people know why her activity just stopped after 2019? The Renai Circulation cover kinda bored me desu, until I realized it's because it sounded almost identical to the original (or maybe I just have shit ears), which is a pretty good sign that she has what it takes to be "pro". Going to see what her other covers are like before judging.

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>>6238679
I'd join Niji's audition if I could get Kanae's dick...

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>>6238569
Except JENMa's grip has been severely loosened since the shadoverse collabs. Nacho forced her way in awkwardly for a shitty collab, Pikame, though i love that weird ass girl, also was seemingly brought it to please the collab mases, Kiara brought in Vshojo, and Ame still has a mystery play at work

Cover/HoloHQ seems to have final and absolute say now, and they fucking want what they want. They pretty much took every complaint from in and out of Hololive pertaining to AX and told everyone to shut the fuck up

This is the beginning of the age of tyranny veiled in security

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>>6238711
it isn't inactive at all. She used to stream all the time, she just recently nuked every VOD. basically confirming it's her

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>>6234147
Nope. She is having fun, Cover would be shit for young people. Just look what this crap did to Shion's or Chama's mental health. Not to mention Aloe. And keep in mind it's way worse today than a year or even just few months ago. To the point #1 SC earner on Earth walked away.

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>>6238711
She suddenly announced a hiatus 2-3 months back but also mentioned buying expensive streaming gear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6238805
b-b-b-b-b-b-but my numbers!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6238789
>>6238811
>>6238811
I see, ok that explains it. It was just weird seeing someone grind for years suddenly put out no content.Deleted VODs sounds much more likely.

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>>6238715
>brags about numbers
>shits on nijiniggers for gatekeeping and failing to expand
>whines and gatekeeps when company expands to mainstream market to get more numbers
why are ENniggers like this? Don't tell me they actually think they're exclusive, elite hipsters instead of normalfags who fell into le rabbit hole due to lack of gatekeeping.

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>>6238635

The meaning is very clear. Top tier is top tier. It's a tier which is formed by percentiles. It's not my fault you think I literally want the best player in the world (which ain't even female anyway) to somehow magically become a girl vtuber working for Hololive. Now that would be supreme brain damage.

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>>6238866
If you check her twitter you'll see that she was streaming like 4 times a week (75% singing and osu 25% random games) she did this up until may. And now recently nuked all VODS except Patreon VODS.

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>>6238118
I really wish they wouldn't. It's not fun seeing her get dragged into the autism singularity of Holo singing shitposts, especially for a position she's not even confirmed for.

>>6238711
>Do people know why her activity just stopped after 2019?
It didn't. She's streaming since 2017 or so, I believe, and transitioned into being a chuuba back in February. It's just that all her VODs were purged recently.

If you're curious about her content, the current vtuber thread on /t/ has a post with some of more recent streams archived.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6238970
Top-tier meanst at the top of all tiers. Above all tiers. The tippity top. The highest point on the mountain of people. Think before using words. Ok?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6234147
Why? You really think subs numbers matter? Looking at last 7 days in SC they made about 60% of what Ame made. Without having a leash around them and having to pretend being Christian family friendly Vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6238956
I think you're confused friend, i'm no number fag or holo tribalist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6236085
>I'm bored of their style
As a holofag myself I'm not a fan of the 90% game streams and 10% other things style, but when I look to other vtubers who do shit like watch reaction videos, or in general think its fine for a stream to just be "jump online and do random shit that chat wants", I realize there isn't much better out there. I would kill for more creativity, and the worst part is the numbers show so would everyone else. Streams that have new ideas tend to get 2-3x the normal viewership.

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>>6239027
>>6239030
Thanks for the info. Are there any covers of hers that you think are her best? Most of the ones I've heard so far are good enough to pass off as the original (or maybe my ears are just shit), but I can't really tell any unique qualities in her voice.

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>>6239339
I'm from a Classical background so that shit sounds kinda cringe and boring to me. I just helped you because it looked like you needed it. Just came to the thread to defend Pomu nothing else

[Anonymous No.]

>>6234147
>regret
Finana is currently hooping and hollering and having a great time with her two friends on stream right now, in a guerilla zatsudan collab. This is the best case scenario for her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6239106
By that logic only the best player in the world can claim that mantle. And we already established you have brain damage for thinking that's who I want unless you have mastered gender transformation. Feel free to keep replying to prove it further.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6239667
Yes by using logic you understand that only the top 3 or top 5 of different FPS games can use that title. Unfortunately you are not capable of using logic

[Anonymous No.]

>>6237954
Lol they dont even interact with each others, liking&retweeting when nijien still new maybe, but Holoen will never collab with literal whos like nijiniggersEn

[Anonymous No.]

>>6235434
>Sometimes I see zoomers just scream random nonsense
Really this is just the extension of the "lol random" memes you used to see growing up. It just went from "haha funny random thing happened in an otherwise normal scenario" to "haha random is funny". Its honestly pretty cringe, but I can see why the younger generation finds its funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6239729
Go on and try to explain why you are backpedaling with top 3 or 5, instead of top 1, or top 100, or top 10%. What "logic" are you using for 3 or 5?

[Anonymous No.]

so what yagoo plan? Make hololive in a franchise with games/anime/manga and shit like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6238616
Holofags should try dropping into a Prism stream and see those numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6239934
How did I backpedal you fucking nigger?
I said Rapha, K1llsen, Serious Top 3 Quake
Sayaplayer Top 1 OW
S1mple Niko Top 2 CS
I could add a couple more deserving of the title but I obviously didn't backpedal. You thought they were all from different games you casual ass nigger? R6 controller ass game nigger fan, barely a fucking shooter, there's more aim in fucking Minesweeper

[Anonymous No.]

>>6239835
Either you do 0 reps or you're in a delusion, but all evidence is to the contrary. NijiEN and HoloEN will collab, just like NijiJP and Holo JP have and still do
Fun fact: Tazumi and YAGOO are on very good terms with one another and have helped each other out quite frequently

[Anonymous No.]

>>6235532

[Anonymous No.]

>>6240056
nah bro, holoEN collabs with e-celeb manlets but they will never collab with nijiEN because logic

[Anonymous No.]

I don't understand how people suspect botan as a top fps player
Her roommate is at the master level and is also a member of the apex e-sports organization. She actually participated in the Japan/Global apex competition

[Anonymous No.]

>>6238710
Who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6240138
>I don't understand how people suspect botan as a top fps player
>She is a top fps player
????

[Anonymous No.]

>>6239339
Off the top of my head, I remember finding her Sweet Tweet to be pretty great. I also have a soft spot for her singing Koufuku Anshin Iinkai, but that might be biased because it was fun seeing the eye expression change after the first verse.

Unfortunately, I don't have access to her full archive like some other people might, so it's tough to work off mostly memory. I honestly wish at least some of her karaoke was still public, since I'm of the opinion that a lot of her old covers just don't do her justice nowadays.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6240191
Small typo i'm sure.

But didn't botan say she's worse while streaming because of having to go through capture card/OBS?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6240285
I don't watch her I'm just confused. People have said she's better than Astel at Apex and went to Predator. Now if that was solo, I have no clue

[Anonymous No.]

>>6240227
I see, ya it's kinda unfair to judge from 5 year old covers. Just comparing HER with Gura is already a mountain of difference in improvement and it's only been a few months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6240138
>amateur e-sports team
It's not difficult to reach master in apex

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>6240039
I said backpedal because the only thing that fits above all else, the highest point on the mountain of people is top 1. Why suddenly drop to 3 or 5? If so, why not 10? Or 20? Or the top 5%?

There is no "logic" behind the number 3 or 5. Nothing in the dictionary from the word "top" that forces those arbitrary numbers either. It's just a subjective marker you pulled out of your ass which you think will fit your argument and exclude others. Yes, ultimately that marker is subjective and depending on taste instead of logic. That is why you can backpedal from 1 to 3 or 5. So not only did I show the lack of I logic, I see that you are throwing out the n-words as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6238056
She's literally the one talent that wouldn't need to join a corporation

[Anonymous No.]

>>6233920
i hope iyra

[Anonymous No.]

>>6238811
You're mixing the Vsinger with Miki, she's the one that bough expensive gear and is likely part of EN2 as she's quite the variety streamer

[Anonymous No.]

>>6240590
just like senzawa

[Anonymous No.]

>>6240657
She's going to Niji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6240652
doing well in actual debut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6236474
>>6236403
This is so much bullshit when genmates exist. Just hearsay from people who never watch nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>6240687
>Senzawa
>200 viewers on average
>Hated fanbase
>Only relevant when shitposting
She wanted out and Cover gave her the place she needed all along, Amalee is more than fine where she is and if she becomes a vtuber she's doing so indie, not as Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>6240453
>everyone in 4chan is apex master
kek

[Anonymous No.]

Niji's have comfier chats and the girls have tremendous chemistry together, vs HoloEN who still act like complete strangers at times.
Ame might as well not even be there, she never talks in groups collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6240691
She's not

[Anonymous No.]

>>6237412
How the fuck a simple word triggers you this bad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6238510
The avatar is the deal breaker for me. It'd be a total mismatch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6240657
>>6240691
>>6240918
I miss Rat. I liked Rat more. Rat was funny and cute. Wasn't the same without rat. Less funny, ugly

[Anonymous No.]

>>6238710
/vt/ is not and has never been indicative of anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6234857
That's some premium copium you're huffing, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>6241205
VT is indicative of quality which very very loosely correlates with numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6241636
/vt/ is indicative of "meme culture" quality.
Vtubers that clearly understand "meme culture": Gura, Pomu, Pippa, Amelia etc.
Vtubers that don't know that much: Calli, Uto, Nabi etc.

Not every vtuber can successfully turn meme culture knowledge into mainstream popularity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6241636
If by quality you mean your mother's fat folds then sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6241636
>>6241978
Please stop huffing your own farts it's getting to your head.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6241978
Don't know what the other guy is talking about, seems to me you're a bit of a /vt/ scholar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6241636
even the bait here is low quality

[Anonymous No.]

>>6241978
>>6242012
>>6242081
>>6242246
Sounds like I touched a nerve. Stop complaining and gitgud.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6242547
Me calling you a flaming double nigger isn't indicative of the quality of your post, even though you absolutely are

[Anonymous No.]

>>6235592
Mori has more than 1.5M

[Anonymous No.]

>>6240039
how can one man be so retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>6233920
tf is IRIS?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6241978
>Pomu
>popularity?
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>6240474
Thread needs more PP energy

[Anonymous No.]

>>6244741
IRS you tard. The goverment is adding a vtuber mascot to the IRS so people stop tax evading

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>>6234648
Besides males these all sound like garbage ideas. You faggots just say the first shit that comes to your head

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>>6234648
$.01 has been deposited to your amazon prime account

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>>6234648
Notice how there's no popular abstract or robot chuuba (save for OGs) out there, no one wants to fucking watch that anymore