/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

What are some hard to swallow vtuber pills?

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>>61437976
You know the big one. Why even make this thread?

[Anonymous No.]

Gura doesn't actually hate tempus
or management
or any of her coworkers that (You) hate
Its just something you tell yourself because it makes you happy.

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>>61437976
Cute voice plus loli model is all you need to be successful because the fanbases are full of pedos afraid of actual women.

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The kind of girl who becomes a vtuber is the kind 4chan used to relentlessly bully and shit on, only liked now because they're selling a facade of not being repulsed by you

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>>61438226
Kinda, some chuubas only need male attention and adore to be groomed, unironically.

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>>61437976
We will never know what's causing Gura's current problems.

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>>61437976
You're oshi has sex with me

[Anonymous No.]

Your oshi probably has a bf and you can't do nothing about it.

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GFE and idolfaggotry are retarded. How is she “your” girlfriend when there are literal hundreds, sometimes thousands, of other people watching her? Don’t even get started on idol cringe. No, you aren’t an idol, you just play video games; that’s it.

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>>61438958
>>61438842
These.

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>>61438958
>literal hundreds, sometimes thousands, of other people watching her
all me.

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>>61437976
One day your corpo oshi will graduate and despite being filthy rich, she'll never be allowed to talk about the friends she made or the experiences she had while playing a character she never owned. Her only legacy will be that she worked in a job that made her a lot of money once.

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>>61438842
Ebonics.

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>>61437976
Having a loli model doesn't make for a good vtuber but pedos will watch any loli vtuber because being pandered to helps them cope with being a vile creature.

[Anonymous No.]

lil timmy seething itt when called out. your anime waifu is getting piped down after every stream and there aint NOTHIN you can do except wipe away your incel tears lil NYIGGA

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>>61437976
Twitch vtubers are the biggest cancer in vtubing, even worse than Nijisanji.

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>>61438958
how is this a hard to swallow pills? I thought this was a general consensus

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Shiori is sweet but knows exactly what she's doing with the majority of male viewers but now that it's gone too far, she doesn't "hate" any of you or them, she's just having to consider how insanely high pressure her role is now and has to learn to assert boundaries

Bonus: she's dated enough men to understand how to flirt and charm her fans

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>>61439976
I've made peace with this, it'll still hurt to see but I'm fine with this honestly.

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>>61439976
>Her only legacy will be that she worked in a job that made her a lot of money once
man I wish I was that lucky

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>>61440533
Shiori isn’t the mastermind /vt/ makes her out to be anon. Trust me.
Her “charming” is just beginning

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>>61438958
>Don’t even get started on idol cringe. No, you aren’t an idol, you just play video games; that's it.
Which vtuber that just plays video games calls themselves an idol?

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>>61440884
Did you really expect a leddit opinion to be from someone who actually watch streams?

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>>61438842
>>61438958
>>61439347
>>61440426
go back sisters

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>>61438226
>The kind of girl who becomes a vtuber is the kind 4chan used to relentlessly bully and shit on
I literally always hated 4chan and still do, I only use it for this hobby and the only reason I do that is because other people meaningfully influence the quality of my enjoyment since most vtubers are fucking insane and come here too
4chan has people who think unlike reddit or whatever but the vast majority of you think wrong and should be brainwashed

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>>61440401
Correct.

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>>61438958
>No, you aren’t an idol, you just play video games; that’s it
Yeah dude, I'm sure the concerts, record deals, original songs and covers are just a LARP.

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>>61437976
Vtubers are just anime camgirls, and they don't care about you as much as you think they do

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>>61437976

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>>61438842
but why should i do something about it tho?

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>>61437976
The only way to ve actually popular and make money is by pandering to unicorns

[Anonymous No.]

Vtuber discussion will always be shit because vtubers have no substance and are all trend-hoppers.

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>>61443336
Fillian.

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>>61443096
This. Basado y rojopastillado.

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>>61444383
She keeps saying she's a virgin. If that's not pandering then what is?
She is in fact not a virgin btw.

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>>61437976
Other corpos are more similar to Nijisanji than people would like to believe.

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>>61438139
I don't think Gura hates management but she clearly disagrees with some of their decisions. With a strict NDA their is little corpo vtubers can publicly say but I don't think Vesper was the only EN talent that was getting into huge fights with their employer.

>>61439976
>One day your corpo oshi will graduate and despite being filthy rich, she'll never be allowed to talk about the friends she made or the experiences she had while playing a character she never owned.
Cynical but true. The reason a graduation with a corpo vtuber is a big deal is because they lose everything related to that character. Cover owns the copyrights so their vtubers are well payed contract workers that can't even speak the name of their character outside of Hololive approved channels.

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>>61438958
fuck idol shit

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>>61444883
How do you know? Also, she does male collabs

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>>61445064
I don't think she fights with management at all. I bet she dictated contract terms in 2021 with like a 3-4 year deal where she gets a majority cut of membership/Supas profit and Cover gets a larger amount from merch/ads. She's just riding it out until the contract is up or until Cover doesn't want to resign to her terms.

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>>61437976
Unicorn pandering, whether (you) like it or not, is seen as normal because vtubers aren't people and nobody really wants to hear about relationships.
However, a vtuber who truly wishes to be against unicorns will disclose a significant other (even if one doesn't exist) because that's the only thing that kills that kind of obsessed fan. Anyone who is willing to forego standard gachi pandering (supacha, asmr, etc) -- but is unwilling to take that final step -- is manipulating you.

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>>61438226
considering the ammount of people that don't watch streams and only shitpost, I don't think their facade is working, at least towards people on here that shit on them anyways.

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>>61437976
Cunny is better than hags

[Anonymous No.]

What qualifies as a "yab" on this board and to the vtuber community as a whole is fucking insane when compared with any other hobby

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>>61437976
This is a hobby for losers like me, and the most successful vtubers will always be the ones who appeal to those losers.

[Anonymous No.]

watching vtubers is not a "hobby" and neither is collecting merch. a hobby is something that you actually do, not passively consume

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>>61437976
your model either needs to be super cunny, or have super massive tits, nothing inbetween
weebtards are too coombrained to appreciate good proportions

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>>61445826
Is shitposting on /vt/ a hobby? A lot of people love to do that here

[Anonymous No.]

You will literally never have any kind of relationship with the vtuber you're watching, platonic or otherwise. It's physically impossible for a person to have connections with thousands of people.

Streaming in general is emotional prostitution. When you donate, you're paying for someone to pay attention and care about you.

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>>61445582
>However, a vtuber who truly wishes to be against unicorns will disclose a significant other (even if one doesn't exist) because that's the only thing that kills that kind of obsessed fan.
no it doesn't why would it people cheat on people all the time if anything being open about it means they are foolishly open minded.
im not even sure i believe showing a ring would dissuade people.

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>>61438958
>>61438842
Seething so hard about your new fucktoy flopping hard, sisters?

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>>61437976

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>>61445146
I'm not posting dox to get banned.
Even if you haven't seen the dox you just know when you look at a person and know that they f*ck.
The way Filian presents herself, her athletic disposition, overwhelming confidence and grand charisma are dead give aways.
You have to be a complete black hole upstairs to not see what's what.

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>>61446059
who the fuck is that? I don't watch Nijishit retard

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>>61437976
They are all /here/

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>>61438842
Yeah, me

[Anonymous No.]

Managers are chuubas' superiors, not assistants or company mascots.

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>>61446204
>Even if you haven't seen the dox you just know when you look at a person and know that they f*ck.
No, you don't
>The way Filian presents herself,
What way?
.
>her athletic disposition
, overwhelming confidence and grand charisma
Bae is also athletic, confident and charismatic and she's a confirmed virgin

[Anonymous No.]

Unicorns barely exist

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>>61438958
This, but GFE works better when she's an unapologetic lewd whore instead of pretending to be pure because then it becomes the gangbang experience instead of gfe

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>>61437976
Gura is just lazy.

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Most of HoloEN are bored with their job as a gamer idol and wish to return to their twitch roots aka reacting and talking the whole stream.

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>>61437976
chuubas do not care about individual people
they will not remember your name

[Anonymous No.]

Cover will never open an EN HQ so EN will always be shackled to shitty Japanese streaming laws. Meaning they are legally not allowed to play good, interesting games. Only shitty mobile indies and Minecraft. Unless they request to play a specific game for exactly two hours AND NOT A SECOND LONGER months in advance. Even that only opens the doors to like 3 games... Fucking Japan, man.

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>>61437976
Vtuber avatar is operated by a real 3DPD girl with all the problems and downsides it involves.
Inb4, what about homos?

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>>61446536
Jesus christ brrat anon, dyrbi?
You take one look at a hiphop dancing ABG going to edm concerts/raves wearing yoga pants with exposed midriff and you expect her to be a closeted shutin virgin? Everything's possible, but it certainly ain't probable. She was one of the socially outgoing dancer groupie girls hanging out with the fuckboi kpop asian guys, you really think nothing ever happened there?

[Anonymous No.]

Your oshi will not respect you no matter how devoted you are.

[Anonymous No.]

>hard pills to swallow
>everyone is incel posting
lmao lol get over yourselves and touch grass

[Anonymous No.]

>>61449944
the real hard to swallow pill is that they can't handle the reality of them being wrong because it'd put them in an uncomfortable situation when trying to justify their behavior

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>>61444383
I literally never heard of her

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/here/ chuubas can be arguably worse than twitch vtubers, it's depressing seeing them trying to larp as oldfags when they evidently don't know jack shit and just watch videos.
>>61438958
idolfaggotry ruined /jp/ but i've always somewhat agreed with the sentiment that idolfaggotry occasionally helps filter out twitch culture, since vtubing culture has always had roots in idol culture. as much as westerners try to deny it.
>>61438842
>>61439976
irrefutable truths but you just have to be happy for them in that case.

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>>61437976
noombers are at best a very minor correlation with quality.

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>>61441354
>t. forgot to dilate

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>>61437976
Vs good at talking are very likely to be older than you. Most likely to be over 30, even if her voice sounds like and avatar looks like 18 yo.

[Anonymous No.]

bae is underrated

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>>61437976
brown vtubers sucks

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>>61437976
koseki bijou. she literally can't swallow pills. she had to take powder or liquid meds

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>>61437976
you'll still need to go out and interact with real people to get a cute girlfriend who'll love you for the rest of your life
it's not really hard to swallow, some people just haven't figured it out and are deflecting the issue. anyway peace haha

[Anonymous No.]

If you have "hard to swallow" pills about something, you are probably overinvested into it.
There is nothing inherently wrong with being overinvested into things.
Being an obnoxious faggot for some grandeur ideal is still being an obnoxious faggot.

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>>61437976

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>>61437976
Fruit snacks

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Ai doing prerecorded videos was better than the current model of live streaming everything, live chats are insufferable to read, frequently distract the chuuba and are minefields of yabs

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>>61446059
>the pill was too hard to swallow

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/here/ vtubers are fucking cancer, with only one exception.
I'm not talking about someone who references /vt) once or twice, but someone who makes their whole personality off of their retrospective thread or posts or whatever. They always bring up holo rrats and drama and are in general the worst part of this community. They latch into dramatubers like depressed Nousagi or BVTMs and do just as much negative shit as nijisanjiEN and vshojo, but get a pass for being "/vt/ approved".

The only exception I've ever seen was Koopa fortuna, and she's been soft graduated for almost 2 years now. Pipkin Pippa too I guess but /vt/ really had almost nothing to do with her rise to popularity a year ago. All others are cancer

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>>61437976
>Most vtuber are talentless and lack normal skills to be a functional member of society
>All vtubers are attention whores and love drama
>Most vtuber only become popular because they are women or/and are born with a beautiful or unique voice
>Most vtubers have boyfriends, husbands, girlfriends or wives, they hide them calling them brothers, fathers, sisters or mothers
>All vtubers predate on lonely and mentally ill people that make bad economical decisions to finance their lifestyles
>All vtubers are parasocial
>All vtubers are grifters, some are even ex camwhores or sex workers
>All vtubers are e-girls or e-boys, but with 2D anime avatars
>All vtubers predate from artist without paying them
>All karaokes are prerecorded for post production
>Some streams are prerecorded week prior launching them live
>Most streamers don't even read their chat
>All vtubers use voice filters and effects for streaming and karaoke
>All vtubers covers and originals are heavily post produced and use autotune and AI music related tuning
>All vtubers are liars, and make up fake stories about their lives or events with other vtubers
>All vtubers from big companies like hololive use scripts pre aprobed by the management and staff for big events, collabs and sponsors
>GFE and BFE is morally wrong, because it predates on extremely lonely people
>Idol standards by the fans are never meet, and they lie to your face about not interacting with the other sex
>Most famous vtubers know each other and even party with each other IRL, they run on small social circles
>Most vtubers don't care at all about their fans, they just see numbers, you as a individual don't exist
>There's no good vtuber company because all of them preadate on the money of their mentally ill and lonely fans, while getting a cut from their vtubers, it's a bussines model that depend of how much of a loser their fans are and how much money they will spend on vtubers

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>>61478688
>pippa
she is literally the reason why /here/ chuubas are a thing and why they're so shitty.
pippa was directly replying to /pcg/ anons in her debut stream's waiting room chat and they ate that shit up, do your reps.

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>>61437976
Don't try and be friends with vtubers, especially indie ones.

They will absolutely find any way to fuck you over in the end, and you will get mind broken by it.

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>>61437976
80% of corpo vtubers are nepo hires

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Vague "health issues" are always a lie. It's positive optics and a much better thing to say than "Talent doesn't want to work for a while".

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>>61437976
Hololive is hot garbage
Parasocialism equals boasting you're a IRL failure past the age you should have been married with kids
This board is 200% inorganic paid marketing shilling run by Cover, to also shit on every other vtuber corpo
3D lives are all pre-recorded
Vtubing is a shit hobby worse than movies, anime, videogames, comics... if you follow more than 2 active vtubers at once you have no friends
All vtubers with a substantial following fucking hate their fans
Vtubers who stream daily are in dire need of money or are extremely greedy

[Anonymous No.]

I will never be able to own everything my oshi released, not due to a lack of trying but because of shipping restrictions.

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>>61437976
No matter how hard you try, you can never date your oshi. I'm talking about the gachikois who think that sending superchats will boost their chance.

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>>61447304

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>>61485661
wow most of these opinions are garbage

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>>61437976
People are allowed to enjoy what they enjoy.

That's the hardest pill to swallow for most people in this thread.

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>>61485661
>This board is 200% inorganic paid marketing shilling run by all corpos
fixed

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>>61485661
Get this hothead outta here

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>>61437976
Once a vtuber starts doing the Gura/Ayame/Aqua/Shion schedule they will never get out of it

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>>61489060
Real.

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>>61438141
Afraid? You can't go better than cunny, roastie/troon

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>>61441631
>Brainwashed
Whatever you say niggerfaggot

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>>61443096
You speak as if it would be different irl

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>>61438842
>Your oshi probably has a bf and you can't do nothing about it.
This is true. Except for my oshi, of course. She's a confirmed virgin. Her hymen was confirmed by at least two catholic nuns.

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>>61480751
>women
>functional member of society
All they have to do is breed

Also, vtuber is a business and a business only. It's not art but it does affect art and people. Vtubers are not like games or manga that can be made solely from interest and love. At the end of the day, vtubers are sfw camgirls but superior since they aren't hags because of the anime cunny png

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>>61445582
The only issue with this is that corpo chuubas can't disclose that stuff.

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>>61485661
>Parasocialism equals boasting you're a IRL failure past the age you should have been married with kids
I'm not the one who decides that. My fate was decided the moment I became one in the womb and my genetics was defined. Status: never even began. So there's nothing to do other than enjoy this run and rope for a better build next time

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>>61466258
Me too

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>>61487571
Fuck out of here. If niji had mods here there wouldn't been 30 Niji anti threads during the recent gen debuts and they would have been stickied.
This board moderation is entirely Hololive and Pippa sell outs

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>>61495434
Every time I see posts like this, I always think, is this person even looking at the catalog? There are always 5x more Holo anti threads than Niji anti threads

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>>61490506
Posted right in the middle of sea hours. Sounds about right

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>>61437976
Already peaked and on spiral downfall

[Anonymous No.]

If a big vtuber says that her last retail job sucks because of the awful people she had interacted with, then she will say the same thing in her new job after retiring.

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>>61495865
and she’d be right

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>>61441631
>think wrong
Just go back you fucking retard. This board really was a mistake

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>>61437976
Only mentally ill, lonely, or autistic people watch vtubers.

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>>61496287
>hard to swallow

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>>61440426
yeah, the consensus is you’re all just another simp in your oishi’s reverse haram.
Worst part is that she may have actually just wanted a platonic fanbase but now she’s stuck with your lot.
FYI platonic fanbases can still grant financial stability, be thankful vtubers haven’t figured out how to do it yet.

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>>61441631
You're a niggerfucking faggot who would be better off dead, you subhuman chimp. I hope your niggers break into your parents house and beat them, then burn it down with them inside. I hope a nigger rapes your fuckin daughter. I hope your son is shot to death in a drive by at one of your nigger loving schools. I hope you attempt to kill yourself and instead just paralyze yourself from the neck down, end up in a home, and the orderlies are niggers that abuse and rape you until you die of a sepsis from a torn anus and bedsores from lying in your own fucking piss and shit you worthless mongrel of a human. You are a waste of carbon, every bite of food you eat is actively stealing from people more more worthwhile than you. Every breath you take that sucks precious oxygen into your worthless lungs is theft. Every utterance out of your disgusting mouth when it isn't full of nigger penis or nigger semen actively lowers IQ in a three meter radius. You are scum, you are a parasite. Kill yourself.

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>>61445582
>disclose a significant other (even if one doesn’t exist)
>>61491255
>corpo chuubas can't disclose that
this

[Anonymous No.]

>>61445740
>This is a hobby for losers like me
for now, enjoy it while it lasts

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>>61496746
perhaps that pill was too hard to swallow for this anon, he started choking

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>>61438842
my oshi is like a sister too me and I wouldn't want my sister too be a stinky femcel

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>>61446057
so 4chan is full of hitlers, but neither unironically nor in a the-braindead-woke-labeling-everything-they-don’t-as-an-ist way.
TLDR; there’s a reason Athens had a death penalty for proselytizing the youth
Just ask Socrates

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>>61437976
Nijis and Holos post "hard to swallow pills" about each other every day. How about you just lurk for 10 minutes.

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>>61445582
This

>>61491255
They consented to their contract and can only be held accountable for terms of their contract

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>>61496746
I can’t tell if you’re just bored, or writhing in rageful agony

[Anonymous No.]

His/Her natural voice is always better.

[Anonymous No.]

People bitching about male collabs lack the willingness to put in at least one tenth of the work needed to reach the point where they are the male in the collab. In other words, lazy asses bitching about people doing something.

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>>61447400
Pretty easy pill to swallow if you haven't gone full retard yet

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>>61447400
Not a universal truth. There are many who form inner circles with some of their viewers.

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>>61438958
>Don’t even get started on idol cringe. No, you aren’t an idol, you just play video games; that’s it.
Kill yourself and every single western “indie” fan on Earth, this is a hololive board, hololive is synonymous with vtubing and hololive is an idol agency
https://streamable.com/jthspp

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>>61485661
kek, stealing these for later
have a (you)

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>>61437976
Kiara is the best HoloEN and the only one that comes close to her is Mori of all people. Others might challenge or best her at one or two aspects, but Kiara is the one who's at least proficient in close to all aspects of vtubing. She streams long, she talks a fuckton, she's funny, she has varied content, she creates a lot of music, she can collab with anyone and make it a good time, she speaks Japanese fluently and has no issues with participating in JP programs, she's a great singer, dancer and performer, her coworkers and collab partners love her to the point of drooling and orgasming on stream when her name comes up, she loves her fans dearly and not hide anything away from her, she took her shitty lore and turned into something much better, and she keeps Cover in check by being transparent as fuck.
>b-but voice bad! She hates her coworkers and talks smack about them!
You fell for blatant shitposting and you're too lazy to check whether or not it's true. And that's the hard pill to swallow: to admit that Kiara is great, you have to admit that you were wrong about her.

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>>61481835
Not true at all, /here/tubers have been a thing long before Pippa debuted. Koopa Fortunas model was literally based on a post in /hlgg/, long before /vt/ became a board

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>>61485661
>Parasocialism

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>>61437976

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>>61501768
But I don’t want to male collab with her as a vtuber either

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>>61502652
You're about 2 years too late, most people on here love Kiara for a while now

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>>61502652
The real hard-to-swallow pill is that Kiara is unfortunately not very talented as a vtuber. She's hard-working and I believe she gives it her all, but that's unfortunately not everything in this business. Gura is like the complete opposite of her, doesn't give a fuck and lazy as hell, but very talented so thousands of people show up just because of that innate quality.
Life is unfair, that's the most bitter pill to swallow.

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>>61485661
lol, so naive. You'll understand once your balls drop. (Unless you're a woman, in which case you'll likely never understand.)

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>>61496746
Nice pasta anon

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>>61445097
>t.vcuckjo whore

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>>61509588
People just like cunny, she’s cute, that’s all

[Anonymous No.]

>>61496746
And I get a ban every time I say the n word on /vt/. Stupid fucking faggot jannies

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>>61438958
Based. Especially the idol part. Lets not kid ourselves

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>>61446057
I'd write so much in response to this but it'd be completely off topic. Overall, I agree with what this guy is getting at. We spend so much time demonizing one person, yet we don't seem to consider how incredibly easy it is for many people to become this way too, nor it's ramifications for society at large. I mean, look at this hobby. It's just a glorified puppet show and look at the absolute mess it created.

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>>61510017
You really believe that Kiara would have the same success as Gura if she had a cunny model?

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>>61437976
Gura 3D live was her graduation stream. She's never coming back except for a handful of streams.

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>>61509588
Anon is delusional, Kiara is nothing without Kiara. Her hard work is the only way she can remain relevant.

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>>61437976
once your oshi graduates you'll sit there in your quiet dimly lit room by yourself and it will slowly dawn on you that you just wasted years of your life with nothing to show for it. she never cared about you. she'll never think about you ever again. it's over, and there's nothing you can do about it. you'll be overcome by anxiety and dread, and you'll slip even deeper into your terminal state of depression.

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>>61510885
No, but I didn’t say it was just her model did I? She’s just cute in general and I believe her personality is what attracts people, but I don’t know if talented is the right word.

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>>61437976
>hard to swallow vtuber pills
Mumei probably supports Hamas

[Anonymous No.]

>>61502462
idol-related stuff is and always has been k-pop level of mediocrity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61456008
>>doesn't dilate
>dilate more
lol

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>>61438226
>is the kind 4chan used to relentlessly bully and shit on
No, these egirls have always had followings in their threads despite the rest of 4chan openly shitting on them. Most reasonable 4chan users hate nyanners for existing, but a significant potion of retards hate her for 'betraying 4chan' because they were stupid enough to actually follow her and read her posts and listen to her songs and give her attention and thought she loved them. There have always been a subsection of 4chan that are the retards who give the egirl attention. The problem is that now you have an entire dedicated board where your filth festers and there are not enough people to driveby these threads and laugh at you.

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>>61446536
>bae is charismatic
Shes cute, but she is the opposite of charisma.

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>>61505523
Marxist-leninism vtubbing when? I want an anime loli from California to tell me to go take the means of productions during an asmr stream

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>>61437976
There is not much room to grow for vtubbing, I think Hololive has reached the peak of what can be achieved with vtubbing, la creatividad is dying and content is becoming stale, not just for us, but for the chubbas themselves too.

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>>61517888
Thank god

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>>61437976
They're yet another contribution towards the degradation of men, and we're all a part of the problem.

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>>61514349
>this is the kind of person shitting up this board daily

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>>61515482
> The problem is that now you have an entire dedicated board where your filth festers and there are not enough people to driveby these threads and laugh at you.
>>>/v/
Off you go, faggot
Sneak like you’re snake, everybody keep it solid

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>>61437976
Those huge Nyquil capsules, especially when you have a sore throat

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>>61441631
HOLY FUCKING SHIT GO BACK YOU STUPID TRANNY NIGGER MONKEY

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>>61438141
Then why do I see people obsessing over hags?

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>>61519377
mods??

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>>61438226
I did not know a single cute anime and video game playing girl in my school. All of them were downies.

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Mori isn't that bad and her failures are overexaggerated

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Your oshi would hate you if she saw the shit you post here

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>>61437976
Your oshi will eventually graduate.
You'll remember her, but she won't remember (You). And there's nothing you can do about it, because that's just how vtubing works. Nobody stays a vtuber forever.

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>>61437976
The hardest one that makes schizo posters seethe is, "Vtubers (streamers) are not your friends."

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>>61438958
actually based
On a side note, if you're gonna be a whore, at least go full Niji/Twitch and say it. Don't do GFE and then whore out behind our backs.

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>>61437976
vtubers and streamers in general are just societal parasites

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>>61496746
>>61519377
Holy shit this thread is still up lmao, I left after I made that post but I'm glad I got to see these replies

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>>61446536
"confirmed virgin" are you Her gynecologist or something ?

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>>61515482
>The problem is that now you have an entire dedicated board where your filth festers and there are not enough people to driveby these threads and laugh at you.
/qa/ lost

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>>61437976
the vtuber space is so filled with weirdos, old and/or autistic people if you show up as a regular ass vtuber with moderate social skills, you can make good connections by just making friends

deadass got connections with phase connect, ex-tsunderia and idol vtubers just by being friendly lmao

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You are using vtubers to fill a hole in your heart and that you wont address out of laziness, fear, or complacency

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>>61438035
why not?

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>>61538461
If I've filled the hole then it has been addressed

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>>61441631
You don't have to use it for this hobby, lel. The only thing this place achieves is up to date shit.

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>>61438958

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The only real and objective talent any chuuba can have is singing. Not song writing, not creativity, not the model etc - just singing.
Everything else is just happenstance and consequence. The ones with the biggest platforms have the most viewers and make the most money, but even still, you have people that will swear on their life their struggling 2 view is actually the best and deserves to be picked up X company, or deservers more viewers.

They're all, in reality, just really mediocre personalities carried entirely by the drawing they present themselves as and the the company they work for, or lack thereof.

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>>61437976
People on here give themselves way too much credit, vtubing is a niche hobby most people don’t part take in and VT thinks they’re on a scale big enough to affect most of the community positively or negatively.

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>>61438958
>>61438842
tatsukete /vt/-dama...

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>>61437976
Tempus unironically did nothing wrong. This board's smear campaign against them is absolutely insane.

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>>61437976
Men aren't actually a bad thing in vtubing, you're just too blinded by your penis to think otherwise.

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>>61438958
>>61438842
based and redpilled

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>>61438842
My oshi is a lesbo

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>>61567451
Lesbians are gay until cocks get hard around them.

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>>61567660
This also doubles as a hard to swallow vtuber pill btw.
Lesbians and yuri aren't real.

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>>61437976
>What are some hard to swallow vtuber pills?
By making your oshi famous and successful you essentially push her out of your reach and into the hands of male vtubers, e-celebs, CHAD and sexpests.
You turn her from someone who is like you to someone who is completely above you. And at that point she's just playing pretend while collecting a paycheck , like Ayame does.

Even the biggest shut-in, nerdy, anti social girl will seek out more successful men once she gets her fame from the nerds and dregs she pandered to.
You are only a stepping stone for her.

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>>61437976
My oshi will not rape me with her 10 inch futa cock

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>>61569543
Hot!

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>>61569543
always chumbuds writing these posts

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>>61569543
>Even the biggest shut-in, nerdy, anti social girl will seek out more successful men once she gets her fame from the nerds and dregs she pandered to.
>You are only a stepping stone for her.
And that's a good thing!

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>>61570713

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>>61438141
Actual women are awful. 2D women with tails are preferable.

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>>61437976
There's clearly something about hololive that drives some of the girls to depression and/or stress and there isn't much of a support system for it.

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That /vt is neither fully the self righteous/self wankery of /pol or /v, nor the pretentious contrarian rambling of a /lit or /mu. It's more like the lowest common denominator runoff of both

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she have a boyfriend

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people will come to to this board, about vtubers, and make posts like this >>61438958
pretending they arent shitposting. the word simp should lead to an auto ban

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>>61441631
>I literally always hated 4chan
>and still do
Don't bother honestly. We will gladly deal with your absence.
>I only use it for this hobby
What a cope. Go back to r/VirtualYoutubers disgusting retarded troon. As if internet wasn't big enough, between Twitter, Reddit, Discord there are literally millions people browsing those.
>4chan has people who think unlike reddit or whatever
Yes, that's what makes 4chan great. We're not you retarded lefty NPCs.
>but the vast majority of you think wrong
>thinks like the typical lefty NPC
>also thinks anybody disagreeing with him is wrong like a 8yo child
Why even coming here? We hate you and you hate us. Please kill yourself unironically. Your pathetic life ending would make me so happy and your disappointed patents would finally be relieved.
>and should be brainwashed
>you guys are wrong because you're intolerant
>I'm also intolerant but I'm right to
Please remove yourself from the genetic pool. This is the good decision, you know it. Just find a rope or swallow all the meds you find in a row.

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all vtubers are 3DPD women

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>>61438958
>How is she “your” girlfriend when there are literal hundreds, sometimes thousands, of other people watching her?
It's a long distance polygamist relationship with me and my bros, seethe tranny

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>>61562502
kek no. That's a cope from you.
4chan definitely doesn't dictate what happens, but they 100% influence it and you would know it if you cared about how vtubers (even the richest Holobitches) act when carefully mentionning us. One big error and the board goes full shitstorm and harassment campaign and 2nd reason :
Where do you think all those lonely men throwing hundred of $ into SCs and merch go on internet ? And those big whales?
On Reddit?
On Twitter?
Obviously not.
The max hardcore fans are /here/ and they know it.
They don't respect us, for sure, if they could they would send us to death, they just care about their clout and money, that's all.

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>>61446536
Bae is just a retarded zoomer lmao.

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>>61438842
but my oshi is the girlfriend of her twin sister who is my oshi too

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>>61452316
>the reality of them being wrong
Which reality? Why are they wrong?
>it'd put them in an uncomfortable situation when trying to justify their behavior
Which behavior? Hating whores? Or idolizing women they will never touch nor talk to?

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Not my redpill but everybody acting smug ITT is so fuckin' laughable.
This board is literally ruled by delusional unicorns risking the copium overdose everyday yet everybody acts like if the redpills were consensuses there.
Little reminder that
>Fauna honest reality check (you're not her friend, no shit Sherlock, she never saw you nor talked to you, how could she be?)
>Kronii laughing to Vesper's joke
>Shiori answering "Thank you~" on Twitter to a Tempus (not even collabing, neither online nor offline)
>Towa having a male friend
gave major psycho meltings /here/.
Give me a break. If 1/10 of the takes ITT were a consensus on this board every unicorns would kill themselves this minute.

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>>61438139
does she?

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>>61575967
kek

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>>61575967
>Kronii laughing to Vesper's joke
you now remember that shitposters tried to pair Kronii up with Altair before he gave up on cross branch collabs and they moved on to using Vesper

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This thread is too redpilled and coherent to be what /vt/ is normally like.

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>>61569543
Idols do marry their fans anon

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>>61572377
Yeah it's called having antis.

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>>61437976
She's not your girlfriend. Also she's just a dime-a-dozen e-thot.

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>>61437976
(You)r Oshi is NOT as she appears to be and WILL disapoint you one day or already has.

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>>61438226
>How is she “your” girlfriend when there are literal hundreds, sometimes thousands, of other people watching her?
It's like having an anime waifu except she's more interactive, it's not a fucking hard concept to grasp. They are specifically in the form of an anime girl to evoke waifuism no matter how much normalfags try to pretend it's not like that. GFE vtubers simply specialize and capitalize on that aesthetic. But then twitchfaggots who think there's nothing more to vtubers than "streamer with anime avatar" have too smooth of a brain to understand this.

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>>61438958
>How is she “your” girlfriend when there are literal hundreds, sometimes thousands, of other people watching her?
It's like having an anime waifu except she's more interactive, it's not a fucking hard concept to grasp. They are specifically in the form of an anime girl to evoke waifuism no matter how much normalfags try to pretend it's not like that. GFE vtubers simply specialize and capitalize on that aesthetic. But then twitchfaggots who think there's nothing more to vtubers than "streamer with anime avatar" have too smooth of a brain to understand this.

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>>61438139
lmao, this is more than your cope, this is an attempt to deflect the actual narrative: she doesn't hate the leftist element at her work, they hate her and bully her because of who likes her and it's entirely one-sided. their only anchor is hololive's desire not to lose every feminist holomem to njijsanji even though basically they'd become nobodies by changing companies with a poached vshojo's 4view numbers at absolute best if they did that.

when gura is free to speak one day it will turn out to have been entirely leftist bullying that probably extends even to physical threats in person. you're just disgusting people living in a disgusting, dying culture akin to the closing days of the roman empire in which you all turn on each other over identarian issues. oh and here ya go, found this picture of you guys lol.

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Most corporate chuubas in the west are fairly similar to one another to the point where you could mix and match at least 80% of them and not have a clue that they were out of place.
I've watched people from phase, idol, hololive and even Nijisanji and their game choices end up being similar, their personalities are similar, the things they say are similar, etc etc.

I think it's part of the reason there's a stagnation in the west, there are so many chuubas who feel so similar to one another

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One day your oshi is going to graduate and will never think about you

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Mysta's taxes unironically ruined the 2% narrative.
He made less than 1 million in superchats before graduation, definitely didn't make that in streamlabs and it's extremely unlikely he had more than that in members and a lot of the voice packs go for less than $4.
According to everything I could find /here/ voice packs and streamlabs go for 50% and YouTube gives them 35% because the cost is split 50/50 with anycolor.

This means mysta towards the end made less than 300k in superchats and even if you wanna make a claim that he made 50k in streamlabs and maybe like 50k in members, that still means he would have had to have sold over 1 million dollars worth of voice packs in order to be charged with 350k in taxes.

I'd put more money on 2% being a complete myth that I and many others were led to believe. It's still probably worth less than your average superchat but definitely worth more than 2%

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>>61586464
There are wildly different chuubas but they are all 1 or 2 views because their content becomes too niche or too scuffed to retain large numbers or regulars.
For large corpo chuubas i agree that they tend to gravitate to similar styles and content. Also with out of stream content, like covering the same FOTM vocaloid songs. This might be related to having to crank out minimum amounts of content and being busy with merch and corp collab projects.

Fuck i'm so tired of vocaloid covers. Much of the time the fucking producers ignore what the human voice is capable of and the singer struggles unless they have a good mixer. Let's see more jazz, rock, rap covers.

However there are still standouts for original content at the different levels of corpo and indie: Haachama, Shiori, Pippa from phase(/pol/ baiting), Rita from prism(mental health and self improvement), Kuzuryu Io (retired but did a lot of event-driven and audience interactions stuff), Chikafuji Lisa (indie music nerd), Amiya Aranha (retro games), Mizuki Meido (teaching japanese)

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>>61587987
Pippas calmed down pretty heavily with /pol/ baiting and Hana's only interesting content was from her membership where she went into details about what turned her on and etc. Shiori is just "dork/nerd" baiting which I've seen a strange uptick in lately.
The mental health stuff is somewhat unique but you're right about there being a lot more variety in what indies do.

Unironically I kinda wish corporate vtubing would either die down a bit or let it's talents explore more stuff by opening an American subsidiary and using American laws for streaming

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>>61587616
He has 350K in taxes due to building/buying a house for his mom while taxes charged the next year in the UK. I'm not disregarding you saying the 2% is a myth, as it's possible not THAT bad but still bad at Any color. Just saying Mysta was an absolute clueless retard and had no idea how money works and how to deal with it.

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>>61589299
>opening an American subsidiary and using American laws for streaming
I can tell you now that is never going to happen as long as the parent company is Japanese. So much of online content is built off remixing and memeing on other people's content that it's anathema with Japanese copyright law as it stands today. Japanese corporate culture is such that they'd never do a cheeky breeki like that.

>"dork/nerd" baiting which I've seen a strange uptick in lately.
Really, what kind of baiting have you seen for this? From who?

I will say that the downside of indies- well, it's not really a downside but more of a side effect, that a lot of them, or at least some circles of them, have a lot of male-female interaction and they are either unaware of the impact of this on their numbers and struggle to break out of 1/2view stage or they accept the debuff and actively avoid catering to parasocial/GFE connections and still get stuck in limbo because their personalities aren't strong enough to break out.

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Really don't agree with a lot of Fauna's personal opinions, but she was on point in THAT stream.

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>>61486052
Dude That's Cringe

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>>61590972
He bought a house in the Philippines from what I could tell. Or somewhere in that vicinity. Even if you take property taxes into account the majority of his taxes came from never paying them in Niji. He would have had to have made at least a million to end up with that much tax

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>>61437976
All VTubers are women and naturally hate you
VShojo's management is better than Hololive's
Gura gets away with practically murder

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>>61587616
This is going to sound like a nijicope, but I wouldn't be surprised if 2% was just the starting rate and then 3 months later it increase or if you sell a certain amount it increases. I still think it maxes out less than other corpos.

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>>61485661
Based

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>>61598444
On stream Kuzuha said he doesn't care if his fans buy his merch. He gets nothing from it.
If JP is the golden goose, then Niji's top brass getting pennies is a grim indicator for the Nijipeasents.

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vt is a cool place if you go to the individual generals and not fall for bait because anons are free to say all the stupid shit they want and all the shitposting just feels like home

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>>61480751
Based

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>>61485661
Hi veibae

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>>61485661
>Hololive is hot garbage
Based and true
>Parasocialism equals boasting you're a IRL failure past the age you should have been married with kids
It goes both ways. Men who are unironically married will end up being failures when their wives inevitably cuck them for another men
>This board is 200% inorganic paid marketing shilling run by Cover, to also shit on every other vtuber corpo
Correct
>3D lives are all pre-recorded
Correct
>Vtubing is a shit hobby worse than movies, anime, videogames, comics... if you follow more than 2 active vtubers at once you have no friends
Correct, but I still watch it for shits and giggles
>All vtubers with a substantial following fucking hate their fans
No fucking shit
>Vtubers who stream daily are in dire need of money or are extremely greedy
Based antiwork retard

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>>61495847
HLZNTL killed Hololive and VTubing in general

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>>61515482
Dangerously based and true

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>>61598575
I've never seen the stream where he talks about but I've seen references to a tweet made clear back in 2018 when the company first started and half the hires quit in under a year. I haven't seen anything since then.
Frankly though I'm not sure I'd trust a translation of the stream when other people have said that they do make money from merch and again when you take into account that mysta owed over 350k in taxes while earning less than 300k in super chats post corpo cuts, it would have been nearly impossible for him not to have made a shit ton of money from merch.

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>>61569543
This anon speaks facts

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>>61441631
Peak onions post desu

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>>61485661
Imagine thinking modern women are worth wifing or siring children on lmao. The world has moved on, christcucks are just living in their shared delusion that they can cling to the 50s forever and the world will just follow suit.

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>>61586392

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>>61485661
Projection of a twitchfaggot, the post.

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>>61522813
because they are the better astreamers

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>>61480751
blackpilled but true

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>>61437976
Hololive is EN garbage now.

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>>61490506
Afraid is correct. Women selecting mates is an act of judgement. They are afraid of women because they know what the verdict will be.

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>>61516972
Hold my vodka.

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>>61485661
>>This board is 200% inorganic paid marketing shilling run by Cover, to also shit on every other vtuber corpo
OR :
Cover on top of having the monopole has to deal with :
>a black company which throws its talents under the bus because they dared to say they played a game on emulator and who's this bitch who feels unique and necessary ciao bitch.
>literally left its EN branch dying because muh JP westerners don't exist they're a spook
And
A company composed of whores picked in Independant and leftovers of Cover and Anycolor who talk sex 24/7 with obvious seductive behaviors, at the limit of JAVtubers.
The real question is How could Cover fail, even with no fuck given to the lore and management.
>if you follow more than 2 active vtubers at once you have no friends
No friends I don't know but you're at least jobless and spending your day watching vtubers yeah. Actively following more than 2 vtubers would literally take all your time.
>Vtubing is a shit hobby worse than movies, anime, videogames, comics...
Why worse ? On what criteria?
>>All vtubers with a substantial following fucking hate their fans
Absolutely. Why would some rich successful and beautiful (most of them) people appreciate dysfunctional asssocial losers?

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>>61437976
there's a very high possibility that your oshi associates with a nijien

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>>61491255
>The only issue with this is that corpo chuubas can't disclose that stuff.
This. Hololive will never allow talents to publicly tell fans they have a boyfriend/husband since it would lower revenue.

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>>61437976
That none of them are your girlfriend. You cannot and should not control who they speak to on or off stream.

But hardest of all
Electronic media is suffocating society. Ted Kaczynski was right.

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>>61438139
I do belive she is feuding with the management to some degree but it's probably just money and perms related. Like she wants a much bigger cut and less control but they refuse. I do not think that''s her main reason for not streaming though, I'm not delusional.

>>61438958
I think idol stuff is cool if the talent specifically wants it and leans into that, but applying that expectation to all vtubers is wildly stupid. Some vtubers are in fact just anime avatar people who stream and not idols, even if they do make and release music.

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>>61437976
The most popular vtuber is a convert who doesnt even talk to other vtubers.

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EN debuts will never really live up to the expectations that you set for them in your head, even if they're modest. I'm still waiting for that "perfect gen".

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>>61604967
it only gets worse after you pass the judgement.
unless you're just a manwhore, in which case you have it easy cunt.

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>>61574711
Even neuro?

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>>61598410
>VShojo's management is better than Hololive's
Another source outside k-son?
>Gura gets away with practically murder
Explain

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>>61437976