/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>Selen told management on debut that her dream collab is one with Sanrio
>Nijisanji gets Sanrio collab
>Despite having an open slot thanks to mysta leaving, they deliberately excluded the member who asked for it two years ago
Why is nijisanji like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
If we don't let her achieve her goals she will continue to have a reason to stay, please understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
Why is she still in nijisanji exactly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
Now that luxiem isn't making shitloads of money anymore they want EN gone just like ID.
They're glad vshojo is "poaching" them.

[Anonymous No.]

VShojo wouldn't have done this

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
She's huffing serious amounts of copium in those tweets

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
The absolute state of Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

suisei deflection thread

[Anonymous No.]

Some better company needs to hurry up and save Selen already, this is frustrating to watch play out considering she's one of the only talents close to being professional in that godforsaken branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>Projects get cancelled all the time
>Restrictions to include JPs in her events
>Messed up her outfit contest
>Leaves her out of the collab she wanted the most
What other shit has Niji done to Selen? And why does she endure all of that? Girl should know her worth and fuck off from there

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
the backhanded dunk on her management in these tweets is actually expertly written, it's very sly how sympathetic it makes her
and frankly i'm all for it, because clearly anycolor has fucked up and deserves the callout

[Anonymous No.]

Lazulight and Luxiem are literally the only waves they care about, shocker
It's not an open slot, it's "your wave wasn't considered in the first place and never will be"

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896649
She will never leave Pomu and Pomu will never leave because despite the issues she's a unityfag and loyal

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
I really hope she leaves niji soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896736
I hope Mumei uses the power of nepotism to get her in EN4

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896504
>VShojo wouldn't have done this

No, they definitely wouldn't, but mostly because the closest thing they can get to a Sanrio collab is having Connor walk into one of their stores as a customer while Ironmouse streams his video.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896504
Vshojo wouldn't have gotten the sponsorship in the first place

[Anonymous No.]

This is unironic workplace bullying and in Gayrope you could probably go to Labor Protection Services

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896810
>>60896836
nijicope

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
>corpodrone chink gets cucked once again
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896729
>she's a unityfag and loyal
Pomu may love unity, but I absolutely doubt she's happy being "loyal" to Nijisanji EN. Between projects getting cancelled, incompetent management, the branch's reputation being in tatters among fans and applicants, people leaving the company, and still not having functional Home 3D despite it approaching nearly the end of the year, its hard to imagine her wanting to stay in the long term. And even then its doubtful that Selen will be thinking about Pomu during the inevitable contract renewal process early next year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896692
I love the streamers and what they do, and the sanrio collab is nice, but I fucking hate anycolor and their handling of nijien this past year in particular. Someone needs to shake everyone there and make them realize that if, for any reason, anyone actually important leaves, the rest of the branch will fucking crumble completely bit by bit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
My respect for Selen went up immensely because my first instinct in response to that would be to Kyoani Anycolor's HQ

[Anonymous No.]

Some jealous bitch in management has it out for her after Kanae gave her his favorite necklace.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896774
>EN4
Sure in 2025

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896485
cant get into holo or vspo, doesnt really fit with vshojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>60897024
despite anycolor making more money than cover, cover's English enthusiast spaces are ten times the size of anycolor's. that's not an imaginary number, you can look at shit like subreddit size, general ppm/topics per day, hashtag tracking, etc.
that's a massive failure on anycolor's part not to make better use of that momentum. instead, it's felt like they've spent very little actual effort outside of aggressive recruitment. they just send these women out to die and then move on.
that tshirt sale from a couple months ago with the badly cropped art was such an admittance of zero confidence in the EN branch I'm surprised we don't have even more graduations than we already do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
>Collab begging
Yawn

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
This is just bullying, they actually want her out wtf

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896504
You know what else vshojo wouldnt do? hire selen when nobody knew her

imagine if every company did the vshojo parasite strategy and nobody hired new blood and just waited for another agency's talent to be on the verge of quitting to rope them in. where would the industy be in a couple of years?

[Anonymous No.]

>>60897277
>vspo
Their EN branch is going to start up soon isn't it? They were doing auditions a couple of months ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>60897057
I don't know why you EOPs keep bringing this up like it's something out of the ordinary. Kanae is always like that, he's very extroverted and tends to be nice to everyone, gives people gifts all the time etc so it's not like she got special treatment there at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60897544
no offense, but selen is too big for vspo. i don't agree with that other anon that she couldn't get into holo but vpso was never on the table. besides, she's not the pro shooter streamer she once was in the early days, even if she had smaller numbers she'd still be a bad fit for them.

[Anonymous No.]

she is not getting a collab with sanrio if she ever joins vwhores, again vspo is the best option for her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60897283
Mika and other ex-IDs just announced theirs today, which isn't HUGE news (especially because I'm almost sure she did it just to follow on her friend's steps) but it's yet another symptom of what's going on bts. Poor Hana will be left alone as the only ex-ID at this rate. Everyone is sick half the time and can't stream and is taking non-work-related breaks. It's been mostly downhill since the concert fiasco at the beginning of the year and it genuinely feels like anycolor didn't even care about it while all the talents were left alone trying to save face, make excuses for them and improve morale in the fanbase. Nijifes is around the corner so hopefully something good comes out of it, but anycolor needs to fucking wake up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60897642
yeah I'm mostly shitposting. Jealous-bitch-disease would explain a lot of this though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896810
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>60897642
I don't think this is in any way a real thing. But just because he is an extrovert that does this kind of thing, it doesn't negate the possibility of a spiteful jealous bitch out there that would fuck someone over. Women can be snakes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
Selen and Pomu should join vshojo. Why don't they?

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896982
>still not having functional Home 3D
I wished Pomu would just leave. I watched Pomu back in 2021 and even back then she would talk about home 3D. Some fan even made a model for her to use until she got her official one, but management did not allow Pomu to use that one because who the fuck knows why.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60898148
It's only a matter of time

[Anonymous No.]

>>60898148
don't know about pomu, but selen actually has an ounce of integrity. i've heard pomu does as well. they are very unlikely to join.
but if they go indie, i could def see them doing collabs, as they'd both go twitch, sadly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60898371
I could only see Pomu switching corpos to join hololive. She could easily do it too, if she applied she would pretty much be guaranteed a spot. She's a MASSIVE idolfan

[Anonymous No.]

>>60898276
That's the saddest part. Management didn't want Pomu using a high quality fan-made 3D model because it probably wouldn't be fair to the other lives waiting for official 3D...but then they delay her home 3D to some point in 2024 because her model probably had clipping issues or some shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60897657
>selen is too big for vspo
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>60897657
>but selen is too big for vspo
you're joking right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>60897509
>imagine if every company did the vshojo parasite strategy and nobody hired new blood and just waited for another agency's talent to be on the verge of quitting to rope them in. where would the industy be in a couple of years?
Oh shut up you Kant. Everybody doing the exact same thing is obviously a bad idea, but that doesn't mean there aren't different roles for different corpos to fill.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60897509
They promoted Geega and several other vtubers when they were small and it didn't even require them to join Vshojo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
>joins a black company
>surprised when they act like a black company
>i'm supposed to feel sympathetic for them
Niji livers are the dumbest people on this earth I swear to god.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60898453
I don't think hololive wants to antagonize nijisanji like that. They did recruit 2 former nijis early on, but that was in the wild west days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60898792
>>60898820
I meant fatwise. Literally too big.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60899181
I really don't understand why you think they would give a shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>60899151
They weren't always this bad anon. Surprising I know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60899202
don't speak for me faggot she IS too big for vspo's band of nobodies

[Anonymous No.]

>>60897509
Hey, that sound exactly like hollywood.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60899181
>They did recruit 2 former nijis early on
Its fun looking back on /jp/ archives to see how hard some people used to shit on L*na for being a traitor, and now its basically never brought up

[Anonymous No.]

>>60899151
You can have pity even for those who harmed themselves by their own decisions, if they have a good heart. And Selen was hired before the current NijiEN existed, it's hard to say that she should have known everything from the start.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
Collab merch is decided by the sponsor, not by Anycolor. Sanrio are the ones who picked LazuLight and Luxiem, so complain to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896982
With moccopi now being available in the states, why don't they just hand her the 3d model file and let her use moccopi at home. Almost every holo also use moccopi. It's easy to set up and adequate for home 3d stream.

[Anonymous No.]

It's bullshit because Selen is like the only person to avoid any real yabs act professional in such a shitty company. She's easily the smartest person in EN and doesn't get involved in other livers bullshit but then she gets fucked over for no reason like this and it just makes me mad

[Anonymous No.]

>>60899303
why do nijifag apologists always try to shunt blame? at least holofags try to argue the point has no merit, but you worms don't even produce an argument, it's always The Other's fault.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60899211
Because it means most of Pomu's fans and what has been invested in her go on to benefit hololive instead. As a corpo you'd want to prevent that from happening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
>>Despite having an open slot thanks to mysta leaving, they deliberately excluded the member who asked for it two years ago
I feel like that isn't how it works

[Anonymous No.]

>>60898276
That model is unironically better than what she got from niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>60899391
Wait, so your argument for why hololive wouldn't like it is that niji wouldn't like it? That makes no sense. Why would hololive care if Pomu's fans migrate to them

[Anonymous No.]

>>60899450
The actual answer is japanese honor bullshit. People have trouble quitting and firing people in Japan, do you think a japanese corpo would do an agressive move like pouching when they're already a top dog?

[Anonymous No.]

>>60899520
Tell me you're an eop without telling me you're an eop

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
Somebody put this battered wife out of her misery please

[Anonymous No.]

>>60899371
NTA but iirc the excuse was that her home 3D model was rigged correctly.
It’s clear that Niji management just doesn’t really give much of a fuck about the branch anymore other than to make them money.
It’s been 10 months since Lazulight had their 3D debuts and no signs of any other NijiEN 3D debuts that isn’t just speculation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60899450
Because antagonizing your larger (in $$$ and domestic popularity) rival with whom you work together sometimes is risky. And the potential benefit of recruiting a former NijiEN into HoloEN instead of selecting a promising audition candidate isn't large either considering NijiEN's recline and their fan's strong corpo loyalty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60899634
>their fan's strong corpo loyalty.
I wouldn't say that their fans are that loyal these days. Yes, the fans of the male livers are loyal to an extent, but for fans of the female vtubers it seems like they'll basically follow them wherever they go. It's still too early to tell since Nina is still in the honeymoon phase, but she's doing better in Vshojo than she ever did at NijiEN. 7-8k people just watching her play Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60897892
Nina straight up said that one of the reason she feels so good in vshojo atm is coz she's surrounded by ppl that support her and don't feel threatened by other's successes. Which implies some dark shit about niji's environment.

Said during the testing stream on day 2 as Matara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
Wow what the fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
she wont quit because she cant afford the graduation fees

[Anonymous No.]

>>60900346
No need for fees if you get terminated instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896677
There's the whole ban on self run contests, and offering prizes.

[Anonymous No.]

Don’t worry. When pomu and selens situation gets so bad that it activates yagoos savior fag neurons, that’s when he’ll poach them. Their situation isn’t as bad as raden being a smoking alcoholic with 500 yen in her bank account and having her underwear stolen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60898371
>selen actually has an ounce of integrity
So why is she still in nijisanji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>60899634
>larger (in $$$ and domestic popularity
cool 2019 post sister

[Anonymous No.]

I may be a few beers down but what is your reason for defending NijiEN management over the talents if you're a fan of Niji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
she sure has a lot to complain about for being in a black company. why not just leave dumbass?

[Anonymous No.]

>>60901891
because their oshi is their company, of course

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
wouldn't it be weird if the collab was lazulight, luxiem and then a single member of obsydia? or do you mean that obsydia should have gotten the collab instead of lazulight?

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896485
Probably just running out the clock on her contract. At least that's what I'd do. If my contract was worded, and it certainly looks like the company doesn't have a "after your contract expires you can't be a VTuber for X months" but instead is just a "while under contract you can't."

The fact that 2 of their members jumped shipped and then joined another agency right after, seems to strongly suggest that's the way to go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60901984
>wouldn't it be weird if the collab was lazulight, luxiem and then a single member of obsydia?
Not really, why would it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>60903228
because the way they did it now looks like they're going by units? but since posting that i looked up their older sanrio collabs (JP) and it doesn't seem like they were going by units for those. so i suppose it doesn't matter after all. selen should have been included.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60901891
Because most of them are Holoantis first and foremost. So their company winning is more important than the talents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
Selen is the cute girl next door that constantly gets beaten black and blue by her parents. But when you ask her if she is being abused she just says they beat me because they love me and because I sinned.

Someone needs to show her good dick and she kisses her abusive parents goodbye- Someone save this girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>60904007
2 of the 3 past JP Sanrio collabs were units (Edengumi, Selejo).
It would be odd to have two units and then a random liver, especially since some of the merch is unit-oriented. Would look weird to have Lazulight Pouch, Luxiem Pouch, and Selen Pouch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60897277
>cant get into holo or vspo
Explain this logic.

>Holo
She's a got a great resume and could be the new coordinator and planner for HoloEN since Ame is burned out and is close friends with Mumei.

>vspo
Pred and top 500 player in Overwatch, has a shitload of connections to the FPS community in twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
selen doesn't bring big numbers. vox does. it's pretty simple.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
Holy fuck they have a sanrio collab?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896677
They had razer collab mouse merch with out her

[Anonymous No.]

>>60906468
yeah. nijiEN is practically mainstream now

[Anonymous No.]

>>60906204
the shuffling itself isn't weird but yeah if the unit names are written on the pouches and selen is the odd one out it's a little weird. maybe they'll do another round with obsydia and noctyx?

[Anonymous No.]

>>60906419
>>vspo
>Pred and top 500 player in Overwatch, has a shitload of connections to the FPS community in twitch.

Anon knows jackshit about Overwatch. Any retard can go top 500 in Overwatch. There were seasons where master was enough to go top 500. A good casual player rocks around at Diamond, a rank below master. You just have to be a very good casual or a fuckin basic mid to low view streamer to be top 500.

Top 500 means nothing at all. This isn't the time when the ladder was stacked and packed with players. Overwatch is about to lose in terms of esports and competitive play to shit that is old. I bet there are more professional chinks playing hardcore 1v1 warcraft 3. Fuck, the third chink LoL server is more competitive in ladder than OW2.

Some fuckhead playing mainly New World, the failed MMO from amazon is a top 500 supp player in overwatch 2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60907304
anon doesn't know anything about apex either it seems because some of the top preds right now are just avoiding fights and staying outside the ring healing while time passes

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
Holyshit jahaha. Talking about being passive aggressive

[Anonymous No.]

Why would they include Selen if they're going by units? The first collab is with Lazulight and Luxiem, so most likely the next one will be with Obsydia and Noctyx, as Niji JP has had more than one Sanrio collab before. Also Selen isn't the only one who's into Sanrio, as everyone seems to be happy about this collab. Why are you trying to make drama out of that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>60907524
So it's rat meta again? Or still. I stopped a while ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>60907990
pretty much, not sure why anon is making this a drama. They are going by units so in a year or two when theres another collab its most likely her

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896729
Pomu + Selen for Phase Connect

[Anonymous No.]

>>60908157
How do you even spin a fucking Sanrio collab into something negative? I'm impressed by the anons on this board.

Although I also saw that a few twitter shippers are also mad for retarded reasons so I guess you can't make everyone happy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60908248
Honestly, I support this

[Anonymous No.]

>>60908532
she's a huge fan of sanrio (just like every other woman in the world no matter where you ask) so not including her is abuse

[Anonymous No.]

>>60908532
She literally used this on 2 streams in the past...
>

[Anonymous No.]

>>60899240
she def is too big, to big for her chair

[Anonymous No.]

Who the fuck is vspo

[Anonymous No.]

>>60908697
the point is she's not in lazulight or luxiem, what's not clicking?

[Anonymous No.]

>>60908951
Before Kson, JOPs said
>who the fuck is vshojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>60909126
True
I also just legit don't know who they are, but it was a pointed question so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60897657
how exactly is someone too big for a company? in that case her joining vspo would make vspo bigger company.
this isn't some minor league vs. major league bullshit. these are all players exchanged in the major league teams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60897657
KSon was "too big" for VShojo as well, that doesn't stop anyone

[Anonymous No.]

>>60897657
> selen is too big
true

[Anonymous No.]

>>60897057
We already know from Zaion just how much management will shaft your ass if you dare talk back to them.
Selen's personality means that she will 100% push back against them when they make retarded decisions, meaning she will continue getting fucked over. The only reason they haven't fired her yet is because she's too professional, so they don't have a "100 reasons to hate Selen" list to throw at her - not even with creative editing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60908248
>>60896982
Pomu is loyal to Elira. I don't know what you guys don't get.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896836
Exactly, Vshojo is way too small and not really advertisement friendly enough for normal businesses to sponsor them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60901891
Their oshi got theirs.
Fans reflect the talent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60901971
>>60904212
True, not Dragoons though or at least most of them
There is a reason why they are separated from /NijiEN/, the Selen split always talked shit about management and they are pretty holo friendly due to Selen holo collabs in the past

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896485
Heard nothing but good things about this dragon, understandable that Niji wants to keep her. Would make a fine addition to holoEN though, I love it when I see Ame happy talking with someone, and mooms enjoyed too.

If rrats about their management fucking them in the ass is true, it's on her that she stays on this miserable company lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>60909616
To be fair KekSon has scaled down to VShojo size.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60908532
She a diehard fan of sanrio and her biggest wish is to have a collab with them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
Not going to lie I kind of thought they were doing the first female wave and first male wave. Then continue on doing the second female wave and second male wave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60912358
It would be a good idea but it also means the newer waves will get the z-listers of the sanrio catalog of characters

[Anonymous No.]

>>60897657
>Too big for vspo
Fucking what?

[Anonymous No.]

not sure if this is just public venting or she's throwing her weight around by leveraging her fanbase, but neither seems like all that good an idea
it's her life, though

>>60907524
>>60908048
ratting doesn't really matter in this context since since nobody serious uses rank as a direct measure of skill level to begin with, it's only people who don't play the game who heard that she used to be a predator and interpret it as being world class
if you watched her during her s17 ranked grind you could tell that she's nothing amazing, even compared to some indie en vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>60911716
>understandable that Niji wants to keep her.
Its hard to tell if they want to keep her or not. They might not want their talent to leave for greener pastures, but they're very inconsistent with how they support their existing talents. If anything Selen not being part of the Sanrio sponsorship and not getting gaming merch despite both being things that she mentioned wanting, they'll probably be motivators for her leaving NijiEN in 2024 or 2025, whichever comes first.

[Anonymous No.]

Dragoons should suck it up, this shit is completely normal and happens in literally every company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
HUH, WHAT DO YOU MEAN SHE'S NOT PART OF IT? Wow, that really kind of sucks

[Anonymous No.]

>>60899372
you can be professional but if you aren't part of the management's good graces, they won't give a shit about you

[Anonymous No.]

>>60913412
>I dislike being kicked in the nuts
>"Maybe we should take some steps to avoid getting kicked in the nuts"
>"Nah lmao it happens to everyone, we should do nothing"

[Anonymous No.]

>>60899770
Actually, I imagine when a coworker is getting more success. The other coworkers get less support. It would make a lot of sense, actually!

[Anonymous No.]

>>60913412
That's way too general, sister. If you're passionate about something and you're not even given a consideration to be part of it, of course people would get mad. Maybe be empathetic instead of a bitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
Wouldn't sanrio be the one to pick who is in this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896441
She should get a talk to Mika
just do the goals that are at reach and graduates
as indie she will have the freedom to do the rest

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
Do you think anyone even remembers her saying that during an interview like 2 years ago?

[Anonymous No.]

>>60912980
that was exactly my point. any monkey brained bot can make apex predator, it's even easier if you're 3stacking with people you know. it doesn't mean you're good, just that you have time to put into the game.
>it's only people who don't play the game who heard that she used to be a predator and interpret it as being world class
i will never understand this. if you don't play the game and find it boring to watch (like so many dragoons admit when they say shit like supposedly only selen can make it interesting) why would you use it to brag?

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896499
>they're glad to lose marketshare
Extremely intelligent business practices.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
I see our Indonesian intellectuals found a way to turn positive niji news into more catalog bait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896677
>denied membership minecraft server (not that good of an idea but denied regardless)
>Only let her VRChat worlds stays for a limited time
>Only after Luxiem created their world she was allowed to a 1 year stay, because it would be bad PR if only luxiem world got that 1y privilege
>Forced her to change the puyopuyo tetris tournament logo last minute, which of course was paid already and just had to used something more generic

Also we should never forget nijiEN was the ones prohibiting collabs with hololive, that only started to happen because man got involved
at this point I feel the entire staff is made up of women that hate the girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>60912667
The NijiJP Sanrio collabs re-used characters, so that's not an issue

[Anonymous No.]

>>60898148
Because they prefer getting only a 1% cut and having no real opportunities for growth

[Anonymous No.]

>>60914215
Meanwhile, just days ago, /vt/ was throwing shit at Pomu just because people dare speculated that the metalgear_jp tweet with the anime girl silhouette was Pomu. Where was /vt/'s empathy then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>60914485
it's just something to big up their favorite streamer that's not just talking about /#/ shit, right
it's really funny that the dragoons have jedi mind tricked themselves into assigning the blame for her disastrous vsaikyo performance on the three males involved and not the fact that she couldn't function either in a team environment or under pressure

[Anonymous No.]

>>60911716
>Heard nothing but good things about this dragon
She is mostly good but she gets EXTREMELY upset over competitive FPS such as Apex if she doesn’t do well.
It sounds like that is a minor thing but the degree to which she does it makes it pretty damn bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60913379
>2024 or 2025, whichever comes first

please educate yourself on how time passes, friend

[Anonymous No.]

>>60907304
>>60907524
If it's so easy, show me your top 500 for mercy and pred ranks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60917333
retard, go look at the pred ranking and see for yourself that it's full of shitters. or better yet if you're diamond or above get into a game right now and see how well your randoms play and if they take on any fights. if you played apex at all you wouldn't be saying this shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60914526
>Extremely intelligent business practices.
You joke but many JP company had this fucking mindset.
Riku literally have Jap boomer brain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60917905
Man. I was just thinking about how Games Workshop's market price went way up because they are greedy fucks who sue people who 3Dprint their models. Meanwhile Japanese companies are like "sudoku.... TO PROVE A POINT!". Crazy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60917329
Perhaps time is meaningless to him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
When Mysta left they decided to expand the collab to Lazulight rather than it just being Luxiem. He was supposed to be My Melody and they gave mymelo to Elira so that all the popular ones would be represented

[Anonymous No.]

>>60914753
SEGA were the ones who told her to change the logo

[Anonymous No.]

>>60914753
>denied membership minecraft server (not that good of an idea but denied regardless)
Minecraft's TOS forbids putting Minecraft behind memberships.

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>>60899181
I know Luna, but whos the second holo?

[Anonymous No.]

are people in here just retarded?
>Luxiem X Lazulight collab
>Why isn't selen part of it.

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>>60919184
Pomu talked about on stream that this collab started back late last year. The characters were figured out between the members themselves.
>clearly they are lying because black company.

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>>60917625
So you can't hit pred yourself
Concession accepted

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>>60924687
They're retarded, plus nijisanji collabs with Sanrio all the fucking time, JP had like what? 4 or 5 collabs with them already? If they started with EN now, they'll do a part 2, which will likely include the purple girl anyways.

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https://twitter.com/CastleGarden29/status/1715256981681041605

kek he doesn't even give a shit about Sanrio

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>>60926504
Vox doesn't give a shit about anything Japanese

He is the definition of a band wagoner

[Anonymous No.]

sometime I don't know that you guys pretending to be retard or not?

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>>60926504
That at least is excusable because he's a guy, of course he probably doesn't give a shit about Sanrio or know them outside of Hello Kitty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
Because she's not part of Elira's clique, simple as.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896677
My rrat is that she's waiting for VSPO EN instead of taking safe bet with vshojo. This might be a bad decision.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60902187
Probably this.

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>>60896389
she should join vshojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>60896389
this is actually embarrassing holy shit, she must of pissed off the managers or something, this was intentional

[Anonymous No.]

>>60933774
How was it intentional? It's sponsored merch, so the sponsor chooses who they want. The sponsor picked the first female wave (Lazulight) and the first male wave (Luxiem). The next time they do this merch (JP has had this a few times already) they'll probably do the second female wave (Obsydia) and the second male wave.

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>>60910779
>Why the hell are we still here?
>I'm sure it's just gonna pass
A load of horseshit to say when you're not in a position of having to fight for anything and are better off than the ones people are crying about lol

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>>60896810
lol

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>>60897370
it's the japanese way of how to terminate someone

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>>60896810
kek

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>>60896810
KEKAROO

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>>60896582
Literally every single thing Selen wants, Management denies. Collabs, Sponsors, games. They are intentionally trying to make her leave and they won't explain why

[Anonymous No.]

>>60936693
We all know why but all of her fans are in denial

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Selen leave this black company and go to Vshoujo already. I know it's the meme Orphanage company for failed vtubers but you don't deserve this kind of treatment. This is "we're putting you in the broom closet at the company and expect you to spend 8 hours a day there" levels of corporate hazing. This is how elevens try to show you the door, Selen.

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>>60896677
They sent her a reply in 24 hour email notice for a voice pack. She was an hour too late.

What company only gives a 24 hour notice for a digital voicepack? Nijisanji, of course. So she can shill the 2% merch instead. You know it hurts when she relies on that for a chunk of her income.

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>>60936779
I'm clueless, why? Is she not getting viewership anymore?

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>>60936908
she also the only chuuba who actually puts some fucking effort into her VPs besides lazily reciting the sloppily written management provided script

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>>60906419
>and is close friends with Mumei
no not really. they knew of each other and exchanged words back in the day but it's not like they fucking talked and msg'd each other daily. Fucking retard

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>>60936779
huh?
>>60911429

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>>60937052
Not she isnt LOL
Plenty of other NijiEN livers write their own VPs

[Anonymous No.]

>>60937101
>he doesn't know
Selen is one of them

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>>60937101
NTA but who else does?

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>>60936922
she attempted to make management do their jobs which angered them

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>>60897657
This post is getting piled on but he's kind of right, VSPO is fairly big in Japan but barely anyone in the West outside of /vt/ or /jp/ knows what the fuck a VSPO is, and they definitely can't name any members. Their EN branch is probably going to be DOA if there isn't some kind of miracle in the hiring process/luck with the algorithm. They don't even really have anyone in the JP branch who can properly speak English with them either, just Qpi and Tsuna whose English isn't even conversational level.

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>>60937073
what are you talking about retard? they were friends.

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>>60937195
Pomu. Management even slapped her for coming up with a voicepack that was twice as long as they should be. (8.5 minutes instead of 4 minutes)

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>>60937073
Retard

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>>60937159
"one of them" is not the same as "only"

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>>60937395
>you imbecile, we could have charged the fans twice the amount your home 3D is now getting delayed another month for this

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>>60937082
That's the minority opinion. Most dragoons think it was the shit talking to management but it's actually about Selen's friendliness with Hololive. The management saw the posts here and became sensitive over the issue, so at least dragoons are right about the management being angry.

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>>60896389
God I fucking hate nijisanji. Such a ridiculously profit-first black company. I hope those play buttons get shoved up Riku's chink ass. I wish he gets assassinated by an angry stockholder.

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>>60937673
Whatever the reason, we can all agree that Niji management is fucking shit
And yes, I know Cover is not a saint but jesas the Niji one is like 3 tiers above on shittyness

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>>60896389
ok but where is my holoen x sanrio collab?

[Anonymous No.]

>>60937885
Give it time. When they have to find another sponsor.

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>>60937885
Probably never, HoloEN doesn't have much of a female fanbase that would buy it up

[Anonymous No.]

>>60937857
Yeah I get it, I really understand. Cover is actually shit and likely a black company, but Niji is just worse at this point.

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>>60914395
she'll never get a sanrio collab though.

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>>60934248
lol no, the sponsor doesn't choose shit, they can only thumbs up or thumbs down to the people nijisanji brings forward for the collab, so unless you're telling me that sanrio spefically hates Selen this is on nijisanji

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The "management punishing Selen" rrat breaks when Uki (who is also a huge Sanriofag) isn't part of this collab. Management is always sucking him off. He didn't even get to be part of the skin care collab.

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>>60939477
The sponsor is the one who is paying for the collab, of course they are the ones who choose who's going to be in the collab.

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>>60939810
yeah, but either approving or saying no to the members nijisanji brings forth. Do you think they know every single one of the 150 nijisanji talents intimately? at best they can negotiate but they are not making the choice of who to nominate

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>>60896441
such is the teachings of cold buttocks proxenete san

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>>60940472
They probably asked "Which wave of girls sells best and which wave of boys sells best", which would be Lazulight and Luxiem. Because Sanrio doesn't care which livers are chosen, they just want money

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>>60939810
That's only when they directly offers to sponsor only 1 talent, for group collabs Niji presents a portfolio of the proposed talents and they go back and forth until the sponsor and niji agree on a group. The sponsor may ask for a talent not in the current proposal, but Niji could just go "sorrymasen, they aren't available right now, preasa andastand" (Not that Sanrio knows who the fuck Selen is or wouldnask specifically for her)

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>>60941092
Yeah, they probably did present a portfolio, but it's not like Sanrio knows who any of these EN livers are, and since part of the merch is wave-themed, Sanrio probably said "whichever girl wave and boy wave that will earn us the most money", which would be Lazu and Lux.

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>>60896389
>deliberately
>implying paying attention

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>>60896389
Please understand. Their worst fuckup has been using Sanrio characters on stream without permission so they did their best to beg for this collab.

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>>60937291
language context? in my eop image board? it's more likely than we thought..
we historically don't embrace nuance here, friend.

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>>60937073
>Imagine being this retarded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAomkZ15U1o

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>>60897023
I'd time it when Riku's visiting.

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>>60937704
I doubt stockholders would be angry with his practices...they love that scummy type of moves.

Fans...now that's type to assassinate Riku.

[Anonymous No.]

Selen has said that she basically made no money as an indie and this piece of shit company is the best thing that has happened to her financially. She is NEVER leaving.

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>>60896389
Man I don't even watch her, but I feel bad for her.

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>>60947817
she's not an indie any more. she's got experience and a fanbase she didn't have before.

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>>60947998
>she's not an indie any more
Duh! She's Nijisanji.

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>>60941669
>Giving Elira My Melody
>Not giving Selen Kuromi
retards

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>>60947998
The stockholm syndrome is probably wearing off now that she can see what other members are able to do after being freed from kurosanji

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>>60948089
Elira picked My Melody, and Selen can still pick Kuromi the next time they do the Sanrio collab merch (JP has done it a few times already)

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>>60948192
yeah, it just would've been good for the light & dark sisters to have the rivals.

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>>60948192
Kuro like her company!

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>>60896810
Connor actually got special permission to tour Sanrio Puroland before open hours for Mouse

>>60910633
>not really advertisement friendly enough for normal businesses
>has landed 6 GoodSmile products (more than Niji by the way)
>got Nyan featured in Yakuza Ishin
>SMITE collab (second one incoming)
>given floorspace and multiple panels at AX
>Mouse getting collaborations out the ass with various companies

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>>60897657
VSPO EN needs someone like Selen if it's going to get off the ground over here.

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>>60898371
>VShojo = no integrity
Man what the fuck do you guys think is going on in VShojo
Christ almighty it's like peeking into a separate timeline when I read posts like this

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>>60950364
You do realize that the list is pathetic compared to Niji sponsorships in Japan?
Baseball League, Soccer League, TV commercials, McDonald's.... And you are proud of a collab with SMITE, but hey, at least they have 6 GoodSmile products which is more than Nijisanji... Trust me bro.

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>>60950820
>in Japan?
You mean the country that has adapted vtubing into mainstream culture much more rapidly? Yeah no shit Nijisanji gets bigger deals in Japan you fucking idiot

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>>60950893
So maybe Vshojo JP should get some sponsorships then?

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My guess is it's based on market research of which characters will sell the most
And also the first jaunt will be the gamble, so if there's a second run, it'll include more of the talents

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>>60951005
They have been. Nothing huge but they only established a Japanese presence less than a year and a half ago.

At any rate, the claim was that VShojo isn't "advertiser friendly" and "normal businesses" won't work with them, which is demonstrably untrue.

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>>60896485
She likes to be mistreated, apparently.

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>>60951005
kson got sponsored by this company
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTT_Docomo

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>>60896389
No one likes Niji, not even Nijiniggers.
They make them suck because its funny.

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>>60952414
Nijiniggers like the company not the talents
That's why they keep boasting about their financials but nothing else

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>>60950364
>>Mouse getting collaborations out the ass with various companies
small ones, and mosttyl only mouse.
>>has landed 6 GoodSmile products
yeah how are those harukeaand zen nedroids going? Vshojo got a few things but they still cant compete with the other 2 corpos. Hell mouse of the collabs just land with mouse lie the bear thingy.

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>>60951759
kson works her own sponsors opportunities.

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>>60951240
>>60951759
Look, I am not the anon who claimed that Vshojo is not advertisment friendly. NTT is way better sponsor than a SMITE Collab and false claims about your nendoroids.
Just next time don't try to make it a competition when you comment, and cry when someone calls you out.

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>>60950755
>mysta
>nina
>rushia
i mean...

[Anonymous No.]

>>60952638
bottom left text

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>>60952686
i repeat myself

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>>60952703
if she scored this herself it wouldn't say vshojo on the poster

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>>60952581
>Nijiniggers like the company not the talents
My oshi has been part of Niji for over 5 years. But I am glad this shithole does not talk about her at all. And even if I mentioned her, Holobros wouldn't even know because they never even gave Niji a chance. So yeah, you won't hear me talk about my oshi because it is like talking to an illiterate about your favorite book

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>>60952736
itis using the fucking model of course is gonnasay vshojo she aint stupid. she is the only one trying to get anything done there since gunrun only care about paoching en streaemers.

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>>60952845
vshojo doesn't own her model retard

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>>60952606
>Vshojo got a few things but they still cant compete with the other 2 corpos.
Well the other two also have multiple years and a much more mainstream presence (in Japan) over VShojo

There's also the part where Holo and Niji control the talents. Let's say, hypothetically, VShojo got the opportunity to partner with the MLB or some shit.
If any of their talents don't want to be involved, then they aren't involved. VShojo doesn't have the power to endlessly shill like that, because they can only do what the talents agree to do.

>>60952845
Kson's manager was absorbed alongside her as an official VShojo employee.

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>>60896389
>they deliberately excluded the member who asked for it two years ago
Bold of you to assume they took notes.

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>>60915537
/vt/ was pitying Pomu for having fans as delusional and as tribalistic as these

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>>60896810

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>>60953700
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T SPECULATE, SPECULATION IS BAAAAADDD!!!

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>>60953952
> retweeted by hololive
> POMU!!? POMU!?! POMUUUUUUUUU!!!
> also fuck you Mori, I'm a Pomudachi btw here's proof

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>>60896389
Another candidate, excellent. I'll get the papers printed already just in case.

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>>60954339
>retweeted by hololive
The only way people would know that is if they followed the holojp twitter. This may come as a surprise to you, but people who don't watch hololive may not be following the holojp twitter.

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>>60954472
If you weren't following the holojp twitter you would have no reason to think that announcement was vtuber related, so suck it nijinig

[Anonymous No.]

>>60954594
It's a silhouette of an anime girl. Not a silhouette of a real person, or a character from the game.

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>>60954857
If that's the case why isn't the comments section flooded with, say, love live fans?

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>>60954900
What connection does Love Live and MGS have? What kind of thought process would someone need to make that sort of connection?
Now, think of anime girls who have MGS connections. What names come to mind? Keep in mind that it's all in the speculation stage, because all we see is a silhouette.

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>>60954980
the same thought process to nijifags seeing "anime girl" and thinking "pomu collab", despite the lack of any further supporting evidence and flooding the comment section with their begging anyway

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>>60954980
More than you'd think

[Anonymous No.]

>>60954980
More than you'd think

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>>60955021
See, now you're just being obtuse. If they didn't want people to speculate, they wouldn't have posted a vague anime-girl silhouette. And if you look at the comments, a vast majority of the people were doing just that - speculating. "Pomu?" "Is this Pomu?" etc. That's not begging, that's speculating.

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>>60955132
yes, spectulate, not cope and seethe that Hololivetv is the one that retweeted the link and insisting that it must be pomu anyway

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>>60955162
That's what a majority of the people in that tweet collage were doing - just speculating. Yet you're parading it around as "coping, seething, begging". Just because some people had the absolute audacity to speculate "Pomu?".

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>>60955239
sure they were
>inb4 they don't count

[Anonymous No.]

>>60955268
Three there count (the KFP one, and the two on the bottom that have 0 likes and 1 like). Not 30+ like you and other shitposters have been trying to force with tweet collages like the one earlier in this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>60953700
Like oshi like fan as they say

[Anonymous No.]

Bullshit they're Pomu fans, they're just Calli haters using Pomu as a mask.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60957004
>it doesn't count

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>>60898371
You don't know what integrity means.

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>>60953700
>>60955268
the ones shitting on mori and the ones saying it HAS to be pomu or else it's UNFAIR are retarded but what's wrong with the ones just wishing for their oshi? people make mistakes about who's in a teaser all the time.

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>>60896389
Reminder that Suisei wanted a sponso by tales of and Kiara got it. When she was sponsored a second time she collabed with fucking Subaru instead if Suisei.

Sponsors choose their chuubas, niji/holo doesn't always have a say in this.