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60786927 No.60786927 [Reply] [Original]

I remember just a few months ago when Vei, Nyanners, and Silvervale left VShojo all at once, there was a lot of talk about how VShojo was a black company and would be dying any day now and the contracts are horrible and so on and so forth. Then a few people join up and it's as if none of that ever happened and everyone's talking about how fair and free VShojo supposedly is. I feel like VShojo fans thrive not off enjoying the talents themselves but solely by shitting on other companies. Everyone seems to hate each other, but not as much as they hate everyone else.

>> No.60787136

>>60786927
>I feel lik-
take your meds

>> No.60787146

Nobody really likes Vshojo, people just hate Nijisanji.

>> No.60787343

>>60787136
>>60787146
I just went to the general and the first thing I see is people shitting on Selen for no apparent reason. Not even talking about someone from VShojo, obsessing about Selen for some reason. That's all that company is. "Pleeeeeeease join us, we don't have any other appealing traits, all we do is take the rejects from Hololive and Nijisanji."

>> No.60787404

>>60786927
This. Notice that all the people that left for Vshojo are backstabbers like Nina and Mysta who lied to their viewers and outright stole their money with fake "graduation" bullshit only to pop up a week later in a company that only exists to be like "oh we're not idols" only to do basic bitch react andy garbage on Twitch. The only thing that company is missing is Zaion.
>>60787146
This. Nobody actually likes Vshojo for Vshojo, they only like it to le ebin dab on idol culture even though idol culture is literally the essence of virtual youtubing.
>>60787343
Actual black company.

>> No.60787523

>>60787343
This nigga got one guyed on /vt/.

>> No.60787550

>>60787343
Proof? Post a screenshot it should be easy! Because I went to check and found nothing about it

>> No.60787553

>>60786927
there are far too many streams to watch to make bait threads
the people doing this are clearly clipwatchers
>>60787343
>ctrl + f selen
>2 matches
they HATE her

>> No.60787637

>>60786927
>when Vei, Nyanners, and Silvervale left VShojo all at once, there was a lot of talk about how VShojo was a black company
I really don't know why there was talk of that
The whores who left VShojo just left because they all wanted to join Mythic Talent together for some reason. That's literally the only reason. They were all literally perfectly fine with Vshojo and expressed no issues until they all just suddenly decided to leave

>> No.60787647

I wish Froot would leave

>> No.60787725

>>60786927
one-guy'd, the thread

>> No.60787752

>>60786927
Soon
https://i.imgur.com/a6zJP1w.png

>> No.60788070

>>60786927
> I feel like VShojo fans thrive not off enjoying the talents themselves but solely by shitting on other companies. Everyone seems to hate each other, but not as much as they hate everyone else.
kekekekekekekek wtf???? did this come to you in a dream? cause you're just plain silly with your bullshit

>> No.60788178

>>60786927
>nijizhang has been seething all day long
free day in the rice fields?

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60788199

>>60786927
>Needs Niji's and Holo's sloppy seconds to remain relevant
Sad! Grim!

>> No.60788299

>>60786927
Anon, those three went into a discount version of another Twitch shit called OTK, where one is fucking one of the main investors (Vei), one is close to the actual Boss (Silver) and the other one is close to those two. They had better contracts than VShojo, which are still better than some others, especially Nijisanji. If you believe Vei’s word, I’m sorry dude but she’s also the same person that shit in all of the vtuber community except her friends (those three) and it’s only a vtuber because she’s too lazy to put up make up. And even if they had bad contracts, current talents were still able to negotiate the terms, completely different to another corpo.

>> No.60788416

>>60786927
Another unfortunate niji poster having a chimp out. Sad!

>> No.60788701

Vshojo is disgusting, that's my post, bye

>> No.60788960

>>60787404
They wouldn't have to lie if you niggers and the corps you shill for didn't insist on enforcing idol culture horseshit where people can't bring their personas with them if they leave their company. This is literally your own fault.

>> No.60789083

>>60786927
>I feel like VShojo fans thrive not off enjoying the talents themselves but solely by shitting on other companies
You just realized it?
The entire indie scene realized this shit years ago when vshojo refused to publicly announce that bad actors were impersonating them to doxx and blackmail creators

>> No.60789231

As an oldschool holochad I like vshojo for giving Pikamee a better home. It's not like I have to watch the members whose content I don't dig.
Fixing Mike failed, but it probably was a doomed effort from the start.

>> No.60789579

>>60789231
We tried our hardest with Mike. Issue was that she also probably ended up befriending the most one of the ones that left, Silver

>> No.60789727

>>60789579
Nazuna is a good example of why corpos often have non competes. They work.

>> No.60790004

Hatred of Niji outweighs hatred of Vshojo here. /vt/ would change it's tune in an instant if Senzawa joined Vshojo and started implicitly shit-talking Holo management while happily streaming on a mostly daily basis.

>> No.60790210

>>60790004
nah they would just call her a dumb whore. /vt/ turned on coco and mass unsubbed from her because she said the vshojo contract is good. not even anything bad about hololive.

>> No.60790327

>>60788960
That's not idol culture, it's just corporate japanese autism. Actual idols don't have to enter witness protection and change their names when they leave their group.

>> No.60790700

>>60786927
Imagine seeing mostly and recently that nijikeks are attacking Vshojo instead of Hololive because at this point they know now that if they compare Hololive again to Nijisanji, they will lose everytime. So nijikeks choose the "inferior" rival company because it's the only company they could competes right now with it's numbers.
Coco's influence even after reincarnation, kept destroying those who supported and cater to the zhang bugmen's market is still going strong.
Holochads keep winning!
Vshojochads keep winning!
Nijikeks keep your grim war!
All hail to Riku-sama and his golden yacht!!

>> No.60790812

>>60790700
why are tribalfags so embarassing

>> No.60790925

>>60790004
Nah, only zhangs hated her and pretended to be the majority. Most of her fans as Coco just went and watch her streams as Kson. As you know, the minority is always the loudest, especially sensitive bugmen.

>> No.60791004

>>60787637
>for some reason
Vei is fucking Soda
Silver has some weird thing with Asmongold
pink cat bad or something

>> No.60791056

>>60790812
Well, nijinigs love declaring ALL OUT WAR but don't know how to finish it and found themselves taking the Ls instead.
Kek

>> No.60791141

>>60790700
We hate Vshojo because they facilitate backstabbing from certain people within our group. It's bad enough that they took Nina and Mysta from us, but now they're trying to poach Pomu too. We need to put a stop to this.

>> No.60791544

>>60791056
>Loves declaring "all out war"
>Still lose everytime
>Gets triggered when people says about the harsh truth of their black company
>Complains about the consequences
>Core fanbase ching chongs that are easily triggered by a single word and when people says bad about their country
>Core ching ching fanbase also loves declaring war to everyone especially it's leader Whiny Xi the Pooh.
>Complains why they are hated mostly by the world.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>> No.60794013

>>60791141
Source for Vshojo "poaching on Pomu"?

>> No.60794393

>>60794013
Pomu has been streaming less and less while responding to Mouse and other Vshojo streamers

>> No.60794860

>>60791544
Dude we dont even care about nijis its not our fault they treat their talents like shit and they become migrants here and start telling us about their experience with your black corpo. Who the fuck do you think spams twitter and catalog with anti niji posts? Not us. Its your own community that ran away from your shit and sharing their grief to the world

>> No.60795283

>>60794860
Which community are you referring to and which community are you from?

>> No.60795324

>>60787404
Lol, lmao even

>> No.60795403

>how fair and free they are
Is literally the same strategy they did with Hololive with the whole "talent freedom" once they got Kson but it never worked because Holo is actually pretty free for how big they are, things are just more noticeable now because NijiEN's reputation is in the trash so every "This place is better" comment gets a lot of good PR

>> No.60795413

>>60791141
I thought you nijinigs don't even like Mysta and Nina so why are you complaining now that they are gone from Nijisanji?
Nijikeks really can't be happy with anything, no wonder they attract drama.

>> No.60795524

>>60791141
Why is leaving a black company for a better contract considered backstabbing? Why are they not allowed to seek better working conditions?

>> No.60795606

>>60795413
Im sorry but unlike you holofags we arent a drone hivemind of NPCs sharing one talking point and braincell

>> No.60795665

>>60795524
No all must serve yachtmaster riku for the glory of the CCP

>> No.60795677

>>60795403
This!
Rushia could prove this point on how she is "happy" with her Vshojo management. ;)
Vshojo only got the good pr nowadays because they are being compared to something worse than them. I love watching Henya but I can't say Vshojo is always and would always be white.

>> No.60795820

Falseflag: The Thread

>> No.60795868

>>60795606
>We aren't a drone hivemind of NPCs sharing one talking point and braincell
That "we" all hate Nina and Mysta for being on Nijisanji and now for leaving Nijisanji. Thats obviously hivemind mentality to everyone here lmao kek
And this anon said it best for you:
>>60791141

>> No.60795976

>>60795868
>one random falseflag schizo reflects the opinion of the entire niji fanbase
How are you drones this dumb and stupid?

>> No.60796075

>>60795606
Lmao holos really love rent free on Nijinigs.
Nijiseethe is fucking good always

>> No.60796246

>>60795976
You just proved it sis.
Don't worry nijisister, you're getting your 3% increase from Riku and a chance to peek his golden yacht.
Fuck those who complain especially those traitor livers! We love our oshi Riku right sis?

>> No.60796258

>>60796075
Truth hurts dosent it holodrone? You laugh at us from being infested by zhangs but you faggots think more “one mind one china” than any of us could everyday its just the same bait same talking points same regurgitated shit and the same tired jokes and memes since 2020

>> No.60796295

>>60795403
they realized that the "talent freedom" slogan was retarded, that's why they don't use it anymore

>> No.60796538

Honestly I started to like(and watch) Vshojo because they saved my hag mommy, and because they made nijifags seething this much.

>> No.60796713

>>60796258
Nijisis, this can't be happening... Those regurgitated shit and same tired jokes and memes still trigger us even today.
What shall we do? Should we ask riku-sama to sent 50cent army to harass them? They are badmouthing our beloved Xi Chong also.

>> No.60796904

>>60786927
I made a bunch of shit up cause I'm seething so hard: The Thread

>> No.60796942

>>60787343
>the first thing I see is people shitting on Selen for no apparent reason
There is a total of 3 posts in the last two /vsj+/s which mention Selen and none of them are shitting on her

>> No.60796995

>>60796295
Talent freedom don't exist when the world realized how they fucked up Selen, treatment of Zaion, Yugo, Gundo, Kuro, Nina and other graduated livers proved it's all just a bait.
Well, it's basically catered for Chinese market, did you expect "freedom" to be a respected there?

>> No.60797045

>>60796713
Im so sorry drones are so detached from reality that you are making your own head canon

>> No.60797056

>>60787404
>who lied to their viewers and outright stole their money with fake "graduation" bullshit
They don't have a choice, you mongoloid
If they leave the company, they have to leave the character

Or do you really think their vtubing careers should end when they leave?

>> No.60797227

>>60790004
>/vt/ would change it's tune in an instant if Senzawa joined Vshojo
No, they would seethe into oblivion and heelturn on her faster than you can blink

>> No.60797253

>>60797056
Of course it does i dont give a shit what the actor does after they leave whats important is my immersion and the character that was established. I love mu oshi but the moment she leaves my tribe she can go drown in a pit of piss rather have that then see her attempt to recapture her career that the company gave her and bite the fans and the people that gave her a break to fame

>> No.60797340

>>60797253
Wow are corpofags really?

>> No.60797357
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60797357

>>60797253

>> No.60797463

>>60797357
You holodrones try to call me out for telling what everyone thinks but you faggots said the exact same shit when coco and rushia left your asses

>> No.60797524

>>60797045
Nijisister, please look at the mirror. Stop harassing Mysta and Nina already, they are happy nowadays. You should just watch gay vox and his friends to increase their view numbers instead of pushing your alternate reality here. They are getting mogged by the council+irys(promise), the same unit they mocked in the past. Pomu is going to Vshojo. Accept the inevitablity.
Nijisister, I know it's hard. But accept it.

>> No.60797539

>>60790004
senzawa makes the most sense in vshojo.

>> No.60797555

>>60797253
>i dont give a shit what the actor does after they leave
You clearly do
>my oshi
She clearly is not if you're willing to turn on her on behalf of a fucking company.

>> No.60797614

>>60797524
>you are happy
No i am not and will never be
You are /here/ shitposting in 4ch you faggot you will share the same fate as me

>> No.60797629

>>60797357
Anon, making fun of the mentally disabled people isn't good. Especially nijisisters and nijinigs.

>> No.60797800

>>60797555
Company gives the talent the chance for a break and be known worldwide its only natural i pledge loyalty to them without the company the talent would never blew up and be famous.

Did you holofaggots watch your vtubers before they reincsrnated in holo? Im willing to be 99% of you dont. Its really funny you faggots love and worship nstsumi moe now of all people

>> No.60797921

Why are nijiautists like this

>> No.60797953

>>60797614
>I am never happy so you must also never be happy and should suffer the same fate as me.
Mentality of the nijikeks... And they still ask why one of their top livers left them for Vshojo due to the volatility if their nijikek fans.
If nijifans are miserable, they will also drag their livers to the mud with them. Gonna save this shit for later for laughs. Kek

>> No.60798049

>>60797800
Holy cow this degree of bootlicking is impressive, really

>> No.60798173

>>60797953
You laugh at this but you holohypocrites behave the same way as me. Im just honest about it unlike you holoer than thou cowards

>> No.60798186

>>60797800
i was actually subbed to vesper before he joined holo but didn't find out until much later (but before his first suspension)

>> No.60798193

>>60797800
>its only natural i pledge loyalty to [the company]
Zhang detected

>you holofaggots
I don't watch Holo.

>> No.60798256

>>60798186
you watch homofaggots opinion discarded

>> No.60798338

>nina left because of fans like these
Yep cant blame her

>> No.60798511

>>60787752
Most of the board would be celebrating for months if Mori fucked off to vshojo.
Not because she joined vshojo but because she left hololive.

>> No.60798596

>>60798511
Shes already in more vshojo events than hime and nazuna so…

>> No.60798750

>>60790004
Why are vshojo fags obsessed with jacking off to this hypothetical scenario.
18 months of this shit getting posted over and over.

>> No.60798848

>>60798750
Coz it makes you seethe

>> No.60800383

>>60798173
That's just you. You're alone in this world.
Stop including others on your misery and loneliness and using it as fuel to hate your livers who left for better workplace.
Nijisisters are miserable af and misery always love company.

>> No.60800909

>>60787404
I honestly don't understand how it doesn't rub people the wrong way, I see people discussing it and being happy that "they're back", but they literally just said they were tired of vtubing and wanted to get out of the business. It makes it hard to trust anything they say when you see how quick they are to lie. Even for those who used to like them, how can you justify watching them now when you have to suspect every word out of their mouth is bullshit that they're completely making up?

>> No.60800998

>>60786927
its almost like losing 3 members + almost zen because of a shit ass contract made them rethink their choices
crazy right?

>> No.60801203

>>60800998
I would have preferred they held off on rethinking the contracts until Zen left. I cannot stand that fucking emotionless robot voice ruining every collab. I would legitimately rather hear a man's voice than that shit. It is insane to me that some people actually consider Zen to be their favorite vtuber.

>> No.60801306

>>60796538
Of course an ESL makes a post like this.

>> No.60801381

>>60796995
You really think VShojo doesn't pander to the Chinese market? Only Hololive was stupid enough to burn that bridge.

>> No.60801425

>>60801381
>pandering to china
>taking kson in
Lol ok

>> No.60801678

>>60787404
Zaion must be complete poison if even VShojo isn't willing to take her. They'll clearly put up with almost anything.

Pretty obvious at this point that she got fired for good reason, whereas the other two have no real issues.

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60801822

>>60786927
Okay but Froot is still there. Really tells you that vshojo would rather keep her around instead of booting her out. Same with Hime who does nothing.

>> No.60801928

>>60796995
>>60796295
Hololive has had plenty of black company moments like the whole Mel stalker thing but you don't really hear people talking about it because the talents are so whipped that they stay in the company despite these things happening.

>> No.60802037

>>60787146
>Nobody really likes Vshojo,
Incorrect
>people just hate Nijisanji.
Correct
Retards from here and all the dark corner of the internet rallied behind Zaion and Gundou but no one gave a seething fuck about their indie reincarnation.
"Screw niji at any cost" is the motto of this den of pedophiles and horsefucker.

>> No.60802099

>>60801822
>Same with Hime who does nothing.
Hime is their ticket to GeeXPlus. True for Froot, though. Bitch STILL owes the trannies money lol.

>> No.60802111

>>60801928
holy esl

>> No.60802115

>>60801678
Because Sayu is more Phase Connect material than Vshojo. She has been collabbing with them a lot but I doubt she'd want to give ownership to fishman.

>> No.60802254

>>60795403
The whole Kawaii incident showed me that even if you are completely in the wrong you can destroy a company's reputation simply by leaving it because people are conditioned to side against the company even when there's zero evidence, or in this case, not even any allegations. They're relying completely on people ASSUMING something happened and that they aren't allowed to talk about it. Thankfully, there have been other cases where people were stupid enough to talk about it and nothing happened to them, which proves that whole narrative is a load of shit that the vast majority sadly lacks the critical thinking skills to realize. Their power has been lost and yet they keep using that strategy anyway. So all in all, I don't put much stock into talk about "reputation" from this board, because I know what it really means.

>> No.60802384

>>60786927
vhoefags are the worst fanbase, what you expect?

>> No.60802416

>>60801822
Froot's continued existence is the only reason I have any respect for this company. It shows that for all their problems, at least they don't want fucking Phaseshitters in their fanbase. If Froot ever leaves I will go scorched earth on VShojo.

>> No.60802477

>>60802416
Hatred for Froot goes beyond Phase fans lmao, she's a scammer and a horrible person, probably the worst vtuber around

>> No.60802659

>>60790210
>>60797227
That's what I'm saying though. Everyone now is praising Vshojo because they're making Niji look bad. /vt/ is a high-tribalism Holo board, so it would be different if they made Hololive look bad, or really if any ENs joined at all, ESPECIALLY those in the "CGDCT faction". If Senzawa joined, streamed frequently, seemed genuinely happy, and had good chemistry with her fellow Vshojo members, all while implying Hololive was a nightmare, the reaction would be different. People /here/ would go "fuck that whore" rather than criticize the blue dorito.

>> No.60802790

>>60786927
How to get badly grudgeposted easy mode TAS
>t. thread

>> No.60803306

>>60801203
Filtered

>>60801381
The closest VShojo ever got to the Chinese market was Silver randomly gaining traction over there with her emotes (did not really translate to real fans)
And as soon as they signed Kson any possible Chinese audience vanished overnight.

>> No.60803839

>>60801381
>"M-muh, Vshojo pandering to China!"
>Kson/coco in Vshojo and also said how
Try harder Zhang. Your bugman mind is contradicting you. CCP Censorship must have corrupted your brain.
>"M-muh, only Hololive is dumb to burn a bridge to China!"
You're not even trying to hide it anymore ching chong. How's your flooded village there? Did the highly radioactive unfinished tofu building you lived in mutated your brain smaller?

>> No.60804046

>>60802659
>All out War declaration
>Cried when get mogged and loses war
>Cried even harder when their weaponized livers left and became an enemy.
Well well if it isn't the consequences of my Zhang actions.

>> No.60804267

>>60802477
ok antfag

>> No.60804309

>>60802659
Nijikeks projecting now that Pomu is slowly but surely making obvious moves towards Vshojo to leave Nijisanji.
I once said his it would be funny if after Mysta, Nina would follow him to Vshojo, now I will add another for the later future. It would be fucking funny if Pomu or Selen graduates and reincarnates to Vshojo and Vspo respectively.
I said it here again. Lmao
Nijikeks be afraid. Pray to your Riku God now.

>> No.60804380

>>60802477
It's been a long time anon

>> No.60804413

>>60804046
We arent even part of your tribal faggotry war. This is between holo and niji from the start. Its not our fault your niji talents run to us for sanctuary and start talking about how shit niji was

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>>60800909
Just because they quit your company doesn't mean they're done with vtubing, Riku. You may be able to fool your investors but you can't fool everyone else. I'm sure you already know this, but the reality is they're tired of Nijisanji.

>> No.60805671

>>60804413
Unless you're a nijinig, you're replying to a wrong post anon.

>> No.60805755

>>60801678
She didn't get picked up either because of her ties to Silvervale or her smaller numbers. Don't think I can't see your subtle attempt to villainize her

>> No.60805873

>>60805755
Please bite the nijibait
Nijisisters are trying so hard to make their counter propaganda attempts. You're wasting making their effort.

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60805923

Are you going to seethe like this every time Vshojo get's a new member? Going to make a thread every time and cry about it?

>> No.60806076

>>60786927
when people come in vshojo from niji of course it feels like heaven to them

>> No.60806186

>>60805923
YES

>> No.60806416

Why do vshojo shills think anyone watching hololive gives a fuck about Nina?
Is it some schizo shit? I can't think of a single scenario where it makes sense

>> No.60806692

>>60804046
>>60804309
The only vtubers I watch are Nyanners, Bettel, Neuro-sama and uwu_to_owo. I have no stake in this game because I watch creators, not companies. Niji, Holo and Vshojo could all burn to the ground tomorrow for all I care and the only thing that would change is I'd follow Bettel to his PL.

>> No.60806917

>>60806416
Ask the holoshill who make the thread, faggot

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>>60787404
>This. Nobody actually likes Vshojo for Vshojo, they only like it to le ebin dab on idol culture even though idol culture is literally the essence of virtual youtubing.
I can never tell if these catalog threads are ironic or what

>> No.60807772

>>60806917
I'm asking you since you seem to be the schizo in question

>> No.60807802

>>60806416
I don't know Nina, I am meeting this Matara hag
Just like I didn't know Pikamee but I'm glad I've met Henya
Holofags caring about someone who joins or not has no effect on me watching streams

>> No.60812619

how long has she been playing this game? how has she not hit 2k yet

>> No.60813821

>>60797253
I know exactly what you mean and makes me angry how that destroyes my immersion, but the people behind the character need to eat and no way in hell are they just going to accept another job than streaming.

>> No.60814620

>>60795677
Rushia is an insane lunatic on a dozen SSRIs . Not really a good example to use here .

>> No.60815131

>>60814620
If you can't see that I'm being sarcastic with my smiley face there and I'm basically saying the same context as yours then you need to fix your comprehension anon, no offense btw.
Tbh, Rushia don't need good manager, she needs a psychiatrist.

>> No.60815600

>>60794013
Right now it's more wishful thinking than anything else, but Pomu's recent tweet about having projects shot down sounded about as fed up as Nina did talking about her projects being shot down not long before she decided on graduating

>> No.60815655

>>60815600
Come on, Pomu
you can be with Henya, pull the trigger

>> No.60815910

>>60815600
Yes, pull the trigger Pomu. A suicide stream please. Then Mori will revive you and reincarnate your soul either to Vshojo or Hololive (but it's better to Vshojo, something must replace Nijisanji in it's place)

>> No.60816562

>>60786927
Are you happy now?

>> No.60816643

>>60786927
i have sex with everyone else

>> No.60816896

>>60815600
Nina and Kuro projects need to come out soon, to make a statement about how shitty it is to be under kurosanji wing

>> No.60817997

>>60789231
>>60789579
>>60789727
It was always a dumb idea to split her streams across two identities anyway. Why didn't she just join VShojo as Mikeneko like what Kson did? It's not like VShojo forbids you from streaming on YouTube instead of Twitch. It was only a matter of time before something like this happened.

>> No.60818244

>>60817997
anon, trying to make logic of Mike's actions is a fools errand

>> No.60818332

VShojo are involved in something black if they're donating to Ukraine. I think an Anon dug something up on it once.

>> No.60818799

>>60801822
Why would they kick her out? She streams, makes music, sells merch, attends conventions, and is widely beloved outside of /vt/ and its handful of containment breakers like ant hime and bannedvtmemes

>> No.60820714

>>60786927
All they need now is to pick up the Orc

>> No.60821908

>>60817997
Supposedly it was to distance VShojo from her personal drama, but even that sounds dubious

>> No.60822974 [DELETED] 

The only thing more annoying than vshodrones is nijiniggers.

>> No.60823401

>>60790004
If she lied and leeched off her fans for over a year, then hopped ship to another company and expected it to all go over fine, I imagine the blowback would be very large. She'd need some pretty damning proof if she wanted anyone to believe her, aside from her most desperate fans.

>> No.60823697

>>60823401
Lol lmao even.
Mysta told everyone that he was completely done and burned out and that he loved his fans up until the very end.

Then he reincarnated less than a month later and immediately made rules so half his fanbase couldn't actually chat on his streams. That alone should tell you that there are no consequences.
In senzawa were to join vshojo people would immediately go "well she didn't stream because of Hololives abusive relationship with her and that's why!!!" She'd be an instant success and probably get 10k on twitch minimum.

>> No.60823789

>>60823697
Now think, what kind of fanbase did Mysta have to lead him to do those things? Hmm how intriguing.....

>> No.60823897

>>60823789
I don't blame the guy for filtering his fanbase I'm just saying that he's a prime example of how little consequence there is to anything. Dude lied for months about his reasons and then corpo hopped and immediately got a huge following cuz of it.
There are no consequences for joining vshojo because they've marketed themselves as a sort of "savior" type company

>> No.60824005

>>60823897
Yeah I get it. Personally if I were in his shoes I would do the same thing though, I get to milk the suckers when I leave, and milk the ones who are dumb enough to follow me one more time. Gotta cover my 350k tax debt right?

>> No.60824033

>>60786927
Vshojo fans don't understand that the company is not really run like a Vtuber company but more like a talent agency.

>> No.60824056

>>60824005
I'm not saying I wouldn't do it either I'm just saying that if senzawa joined the backlash would be about as big as the backlash was when Mysta joined.
In other words there really wouldn't be any

>> No.60824102

>>60798511
Calli is just a big an asset for Hololive as Gura. She's not leaving.

>> No.60829415

>>60797253
Meds, now.

>> No.60829566

>>60800909
They say they are tired of Vtubing because the Corpo's are not gonna allow them to do a massive graduation stream and say "I'm leaving because this company is shit and keeps shooting down every idea I have while giving me 2% of the revenue I make for them"

They just want a clean easy break and to start a new life streaming somewhere else.

>> No.60829667

>>60801822
Why would they kick out based Froot. The girls like her, she is a talented artist/singer and the only people that really hate her are the schizo's /here/ and woke fucks on twitter.

>> No.60829808

>>60800909
bad management is the worse stressant

>> No.60829844

>>60817997
Trying to understand the mind of a menhera of the level of Michael Cat is is a fools errand.

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ZENNER LIVE!

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>>60817997
She still considers her firing an unjustified one and so does her lawyer.

They've been poking Cover Corps eye for a while now and want them to try and do a copyright claim on her personal model as Cover abandoned the Rushia model.

The goal is to have the court recognize that the voice actor should own the persona as the persona wouldn't be a character without her behind it. Cover also gives weight to this by abandoning all merch push and use of the character after firing her.

It's honestly a pretty smart move that could set a precedent for Corpo Vtubers if Cover took the bait but, I'm pretty sure their legal team is aware of this.

So in short, Her Vshojo model is the main "professional model" while her personal one is bait for Cover.

>> No.60831408

>>60831189
That sounds too gigabrain for her bipolar ass, so I assume it's cope

>> No.60831713

>>60787146
Does anyone like any company? I don't. I like the streamers. IDC if every company dies tomorrow because (Yagoo/gunrun/whatever the niji guys name is) gets caught with his dick in Shando. I'd still watch the streamers I have been watching for years.

>> No.60832380

>>60786927
Vshojo wasn't a black company.
Nyan, Vei, and Silver left because they were fine being just indies and just streaming. They don't really care about the more indepth content creation, so no point in giving Vshojo their cut.

>> No.60832436

>>60786927
Anything is an upgrade from NijiEN (and VOMS). As for the former Holos, Kson always wanted to be IRL coombait streamer and Nazuna desperately wishes she was still the necromancer

>> No.60832805

>>60831408
You don't come up with legal strategies yourself. That's what a lawyer is for.

>> No.60832950

>>60832380
it's the downside of Vshojo being a talent agency with no control over your model. If you're big enough, then there's no reason to stay and pay a fee when you could do it yourself. I'm sure the current members are ok having fees taken from their winnings as they are thinking on future company growth instead on having a bunch of cash that's to be taxed now.

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If you want me to stop posting this, stop proving it right.

>> No.60833090

>>60832436
>kson does like 1 flesh stream per month
>1 minute of that 3 hour stream is dedicated to some lewd joke
>third worlder cliptard sees a clip of this and now considers her an "IRL coombait streamer"

>> No.60833140

>>60786927
Silver and Vei got bad contracts for being uncorporative shitstains that would drag everyone around them down so of course they will cry about it. Nyanners has her BF and it makes more sense for her to do her own thing. Ever noticed that the concert happened right after Silver and Vei left? These talentless hacks couldn't live with events being made without them being in the center while not having any talent to back it up so it was finally after they stop vetoing all the ideas and new talents that things got moving. VShojo is thriving more than ever.

>> No.60833329

>>60832950
Except Mouse is the biggest of the group and Zen is bigger than both Silver and Nyan. The reason to stay vs leave comes from whether VShojo is offering you things you want. Vei doesn't like vtubers and VShojo comes with being intrinsically tied to them so that was easy for her. Silver had personal issues with other talents that helped push her out. And Nyan doesn't like being in the spotlight, while being in VShojo definitely puts one on top of you. Their size had nothing to do with it.

>> No.60833622

>>60833329
.... are you dense? What part of them being big enough to not merit dividing part of their income with an agency and those who stay wanting to help the company grow, merits your response? You said nothing but "Mouse is bigger". Yeah, and she was a founder. She has all the cash she needs. She wants to help Vshojo grow

>> No.60833962

>>60833622
Silver was also a founder, even signed her first contract before Mouse

>> No.60834015

>>60801822
Froot has extremely bad timing

>> No.60834354

Tribalfags seething

Haters can stay mad

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Vshitshow has been sucking the glue out of windowframe for over a year now. Pink cat and sodas girlfriend didnt leave for nothing. 3% marketshare in vtubing, endless REEACK streams and sleeping streams can only get you so far when you only hire guntson windowlickers and Rikus sloppy seconds. It would be tragic if it wasnt so funny seeing you delusional midwits wallow in the twitch cesspit of rancid shit prentending (You) or the has-beens exploiting your mexican multi level marketing scheme have anything worth to offer to anyone whos not high on bath salts.

>> No.60834715

>>60833962
...holy shit, is this what the general vtuber fans IQ is like?

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>>60834694
Holy shit these tears are something else

>> No.60835242

>>60831189
>and so does her lawyer.
That's one retarded lawyer. She broke her contract several times before being fired.
"You weren't supposed to find out it was me!" is not a valid defense.

>> No.60835878

>>60786927
>there was a lot of talk about how VShojo was a black company and would be dying any day now and the contracts are horrible and so on and so forth.
Just because people talk doesn't mean it's true.

>Then a few people join up and it's as if none of that ever happened and everyone's talking about how fair and free VShojo supposedly is.
Not sure if fair is the right word but there's definitely more freedom than in other orgs.

>I feel like VShojo fans thrive not off enjoying the talents themselves but solely by shitting on other companies.
I consider myself a Vshojo fan even if I think Hololive is still a better and stronger company. Both are good imo and fullfil different niches. Niji, specifically the EN branch, on the other hand is not a good company to work for but they still have good talents.

>Everyone seems to hate each other, but not as much as they hate everyone else.
/vsj+/ has the least tribalfaggots and numbermonkeys.

>> No.60835897

>>60835242
lol a contract for professional employment and it's stipulations are not tied to copyright and ip laws.

You could add to the contract that eating turds every morning at 5am while getting your shitbox tonged is a requirement and yet, the court can rule against such requirements.

>> No.60835935

>>60802037
NIJISEETHE

>> No.60836034

>>60835897
You said she was fired unjustly when she wasn't.

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KSON IN SPACE!
virgin galactic collab soon

>> No.60836346

>>60836034
I dint make a factual statement. It's her opinion on the matter.

>> No.60836360

>>60836034
he only said she and her lawyer consider it unfair
the IP stuff might not necessarily be affected by fairness of her dismissal

>> No.60836464

>>60836360
I never said anything about IP. I just said her lawyer is fucking stupid and probably doesn't have all the information about what she really did.

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>> No.60836817

>>60800909
I'm sorry but when did this board become 99% newfags? It's like most people here experienced their first vtuber graduation within the last 4 months. You really think these successful internet microcelebrities will retire and go back to working at McDonalds or something? Are you seriously gonna keep falling for this shit?

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>>60836464

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>>60836670

>> No.60838119

>>60836464
huh sounds like you got a pretty strong case there, eh.

Go ahead, tell me what she did so I can dismantle your hearsay

>> No.60838419

>>60838119
>hearsay
It's all on korekore's stream, cuckfami. Her making false statements about hololive's internal matters happened.
Her firing was completely justified and you've tried to damage control her situation several times that she acknowledges her firing as legitimate.
Why is all suddenly wrong again? You never have your story straight.

>> No.60838477

Kettle joined, me like corpo now. Simple man, simple needs. Simple man simply wants mouse and whore gone now too.

>> No.60840879

>>60838477
Mel is nice dude
Just don't watch her CB

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>>60801822
Seethe forever, Ant

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>>60832981
it really is funny when you see most of /vt/ is a bunch of angry SEAfags screaming about the west and whores. Make sure to worship the prophet Muhammed before you go to bed tonight, Abdullah.

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>>60834694
> and sleeping streams
Man the subathon really did irreparable damage to the catalog didn't it? lol

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>>60841762
they also hate twitch because of the high bitrate streams and the fact that it's not excluded from their data plans like youtube is

>> No.60842689

>>60842009
It did irreparable damage to your credibility.

>> No.60843382

>>60842689
>nigga still made some chick can stream for 20 hours and then sleep for 4 before doing it again every day for the rest of the month
>a single month of this
1 month has caused you eternal seething. 1 single month. I can't imagine how completely irate you'd be if she did this every single day of the year.

>> No.60843421

>>60838419

We're clearly not talking about the same subject. You keep fixating on "what she did". What's being discussed is her rights to potentially reclaim her model and what makes a vtuber a persona (the model or the voice actor behind it).

Still, I will somewhat entertain your fixation

>>it's all on korekore's stream

that's a third party who has no knowledge of any contract agreement and is acting independently from both parties even if there was alleged communications with those involved.

The reality of the matter is that Cover LIED to her when they said they would offer support to help her with what she considered at the time a PR disaster,, Summoned her for a meeting on the matter, and terminated her on the spot.

Whether this was done out of fear or spite matters not. What matters is that Cover claimed to have made an investigation which involved material used by a third party.

The VA did not sign any affidavits saying she had provided what korekore leaked.

We have recorded proof of a third party implicating the persona of Rushia by saying "I was told not to say this by Rushia" which is in no way, shape, or form evidence that's valid as to her being the direct source. It's hearsay from a third party who was getting a lot of views at the time.

I could dispute this at nauseum but it really doesn't matter because the VA has no interest of going back to Cover Corp.

>>you've tried to damage control her situation several times that she acknowledges her firing as legitimate.


defending a position wont make it right or wrong.

At the same time, a client saying they believe they're in the wrong don't make them in the wrong.

>>Why is all suddenly wrong again? You never have your story straight.

That's your Autism fighting your asperges, and Chinese heritage.

>> No.60843529

>>60843382
It was two months of you spamming
>MOST WATCHED MOST POPULATR VTUBER IN THE WORLD!!!
>200K MEMBERS!!! TAKE THAT NUMBERRABBIT!!!
and now it's all gone because it was all fake.

>> No.60843662

>>60843529
Evergrande's real estate bubble lasted longer

>> No.60844195

>>60843421
>What's being discussed is her rights to potentially reclaim her model
No, that's not what's being discussed. All I did was say that her lawyer is stupid because her firing was completely justified.
>that's a third party who has no knowledge of any contract agreement and is acting independently from both parties even if there was alleged communications with those involved.
He doesn't need to know anything. He showed messages that she had sent to him and she addressed them as the person who had sent them
>The VA did not sign any affidavits saying she had provided what korekore leaked.
What the fuck is this retarded argument? There is no court case so why the fuck would she be signing muh affddivatitits? She already admitted she sent those messages when she tried to make claims about their true meaning.
>defending a position wont make it right or wrong.
But it means you believe it to be right. That's why you fucking defend it. You're now trying to claim that she definitely does not acknowledge that she was fired for a valid reason and does not think she did a single thing wrong.

>> No.60845341

>>60834715
>say something retarded
>people try and parse what you mean, assuming you're saying something coherent
>nobody gets it
The problem is you buddy

>> No.60845774

>>60786927
They left because Vei is s snake and manipulated them into joining her boyfriends company, but Mythic has turned to shit, they lost a ton of sponsors and lots of people are leaving for other agencies.

Really expect Nyan and Silver to bail on mythic once their contract is up. Though some people didn't even wait for that.

>> No.60846001

>>60786927
>I feel like VShojo fans thrive not off enjoying the talents themselves but solely by shitting on other companies.
stop taking catalogniggers at face value you cretin

>> No.60846049

>>60844195

>>No, that's not what's being discussed. All I did was say that her lawyer is stupid because her firing was completely justified.

I've gotta say, I'm impressed with how stupid you are. If people are having a conversation and you butt in with retarded remarks and comments, you're now part of that conversation. You don't get to change what the conversation was when you're the one responding to it.

>>He doesn't need to know anything. He showed messages that she had sent to him and she addressed them as the person who had sent them

Hearsay, wouldn't hold in court and has as much value as your opinion.

>>There is no court case so why the fuck would she be signing muh affddivatitits? She already admitted she sent those messages when she tried to make claims about their true meaning.

You truly are a magnificent specimen in the retardation spectrum.

You don't sign during or after the case. You do it before to defend against a potential case. Them not having this actually opens the doors to litigation if the client wishes to pursue.

A client saying they were wrong in X doesn't make them guilty as they aren't expected to have all the information to reach that conclusion.

>>But it means you believe it to be right. That's why you fucking defend it. You're now trying to claim that she definitely does not acknowledge that she was fired for a valid reason and does not think she did a single thing wrong.

You sound like a Hassan viewer. You don't have to believe in a position to defend it. When you're making an argument in defense of a drug dealer who's traffic stop wasn't handled correctly, you're not doing it because you think He's right. You do it because you have an argument where a law wasn't followed, that's it.

I have to close the office now but please, donate your brain to science so we can prevent people being as stupid as you.

Take a shower.

>> No.60846904

>>60846049
I responded to a single part of that conversation. Why are you so obsessed with dragging me into a completely different topic? It's because you know the lawyer is retarded.
>Hearsay, wouldn't hold in court and has as much value as your opinion.
She literally confirmed that she wrote those messages. How is her saying that she actually lied all along going to hold up in court? She will be thrown out.
>Them not having this actually opens the doors to litigation if the client wishes to pursue.
But it doesn't because she agreed to not do shit. If she tries they will fuck her up even more than she has fucked herself up by entertaining you schizos with a delusion of a relationship that doesn't exist.
This "wouldn't hold in court!" cope is really lazy.
>>60846049
>You don't have to believe in a position to defend it.
Yeah if you do it just for the sake of arguing for that position, but that's not what you're doing.
Your one and only angle is "mikeneko did nothing wrong and here's why" and you then try to convince others of whatever delusion you've agreed to believe with your discord. Before you faggots used to say that she fully accepts her firing and wouldn't want to extreminate Cover, but now the narrative seems to be the opposite.

>> No.60847521

>>60846904
nta but you have no idea what you're talking about. read a book.

>> No.60847652

>>60804309
I'd say Mika is closer to the edge but Pomu and Selen are definitely looking at it

>> No.60847683

>>60847521
You're completely right, I have no idea and mikeneko will absolutely DESTROY Cover in the courts because her firing was completely unjustified. She can just say she didn't say the things she said and just like that she will be awarded with the IP rights to Rushia.
That's definitely how everything works.

>> No.60847840

>>60816896
Kuro's prepping for his 3D model and Tara is already working on something for VShojo's third anniversary (end of next month)
They're also already doing community events. Kuro did a stream interviewing his viewers, and Tara has the beginning of a book club scheduled for this weekend.

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>>60786927
The anon here >>60788299 explained it pretty well. Those three girls all had a decent reason to leave because they have better connections that could get them more than what Vshoujo could give them. OTK is fucking huge.

>> No.60848114

>>60786927
Vshojo doesn’t have gens so if a few people leave it doesn’t matter as much. Not sure why Holofags would feel threatened by them because they’re not even trying to compete with Hololive. They’re targeting a different audience and are centered on a different platform.
However if I was Niji I would definitely feel threatened by them because they do the same “fuck your seiso idol nonsense” while also not treating their talents like garbage.

>> No.60848250

>>60832950
What fee's though? Vshojo only take a percentage of merch and sponsors organised by them. Talents are free to pursue their own merch and sponsor deals and keep 100% of that. anything Vshojo does on top of that is a bonus that requires very little work from them as Vshojo takes care of it all and they still get a %age.

Their biggest talent has an outside management company ffs. So does Geega.

>> No.60848284

>>60847683
your iq is literally so low that you can't even understand what's happening. the guy you are arguing with literally spelled out exactly what her argument is and you managed to ignore it and come up with stupid shit that doesn't make any sense instead and then project your retardery onto her. you are actually mentally handicapped.

>> No.60848349

>>60848284
The argument made was that she did nothing wrong and was unjustly fired.

>> No.60848551

Cover is finished. They can't do anything.

>> No.60848834

>>60848349
no it wasn't. you belong in a straight jacket.

>> No.60848868

>>60848834
So she did do something wrong?

>> No.60849119

>>60848868
it doesn't matter if she did or didn't.

>> No.60849303

>>60849119
It does when you're claiming that it's not stupid to think that she was unjustly fired.

>> No.60849471

>>60831189
No I'm pretty sure she's just having a normal one and trying to return to the past

>> No.60849574

>>60832950
>stay and pay a fee
They don't pay a fee?
They take a cut of the merch and sponsors that they organize. Which is standard for talent agencies and identical to their current relationship with Mythic.

>> No.60849836

>>60849303
her goal (according to that other anon) is to reclaim rushia by convincing a court that the virtual character belongs to her, the actor behind it. it literally. does. not. matter. if she was fired justly, unjustly, or if she just quit.

>> No.60849938

>>60849836
But I only said that the lawyer is retarded if they think she was fired unjustly. Reclaiming rushia is completely irrelevant to me.

>> No.60849964

>>60849836
isn't her current model basically rushia?

>> No.60850098

>>60849938
that's retarded too. a lawyer arguing something to make a point and defend their client does not mean they hold that belief in their heart. it doesn't matter if they do or not.

>> No.60850100

>>60849964
Not literally

>> No.60850245

>>60786927
Your brain is being rotted by /vt/ and drama niggers.

>> No.60850247

>>60850098
>She still considers her firing an unjustified one and so does her lawyer.
This does not imply arguing for the sake of defense. This is about belief.

>> No.60850451

>>60850247
nobody cares. it doesn't matter. but anyway he's right, they completely fucked her. it's obvious to everyone who isn't a cover fanboy. imagine telling your top talent to fuck off and wait for monday while she's in the middle of a pr crisis on primetime friday night. what the fuck lmao.

>> No.60850520

>>60850451
You clearly care since you're still desperately claim that she shouldn't have been fired. Why did she need to talk to korekore in 2021?

>> No.60850555

>>60848114
>while also not treating their talents like garbage.
You realize that four people literally left VShojo in quick succession because they treat their talents like garbage.
I don't understand how you can post something like this without feeling ashamed of yourself. VShojo fans are in no position to throw stones at Nijisanji.

>> No.60850627

>>60850555
3 people and they left at the same time. When contract renewals came up.

>> No.60850739

>>60850520
she talked to him because her manager is a retard. probably as dumb as you are. maybe you should get a job there.

>> No.60850804

>>60850739
That's not a reason. Why did she have to talk to him?

>> No.60850907

>>60850804
i was under the assumption that hololive talents were allowed to have friends.

>> No.60850961

>>60786927
its almost like people forget things after a week or two.

>> No.60850991

>>60850907
She didn't talk to him as a friend. She told him to tell everyone what she had told him, and when he did you blamed HIM for her getting fired. That's not a "friend" level interaction.

>> No.60851118

>>60850991
not only are you dumb, you're going schizo now. i never blamed him for anything. i'm just repeating what cover's press release said. do you have to be best friends with someone to talk to them? can hololive talents go to the convenience store and talk to the cashier if they aren't their friend? how does this work?

>> No.60851328

>>60840879
I’m sure she is nice, however, of the admittedly small amount of her stuff i’ve seen she comes across as very stupid, and not cute stupid just the mind numbing variant. I also don’t like her voice but that’s nitpicking.

>> No.60851480

>>60851118
>i never blamed him for anything
Yeah you did.
>i'm just repeating what cover's press release said
You're not since you're claiming she didn't do anything wrong. Cover's press release goes over the things she did wrong and korekore's stream confirms those claims.
>do you have to be best friends with someone to talk to them? can hololive talents go to the convenience store and talk to the cashier if they aren't their friend?
What a fucking retarded argument. You're now implying that hololive members go to tell cashiers that Cover is shit and they want everyone there to suffer and that when they kill themselves the cashier should "tell everyone" what they told them.

>> No.60851986

>>60850627
Two people out of THIRTY leave, both of which are clearly better suited to being Twitch streamers and apparently can't function as a streamer with the intense corporate restrictions of "having to get permission to play games" and "not using licensed music" and "not watching YouTube videos on stream." And people are so deranged in their hatred for Nijisanji that they think this is some sort of unprecedented disaster that has torpedoed the company's reputation. Apparently the opinions of the thirty other people who are completely fine with the company don't matter at all. And no, I am not including Yugo and Zaion because it was made clear that they were terminated, and I don't blame a company for cutting loose dead weight, just like I don't blame Hololive for firing Rushia. Besides that, nobody had anything good to say about Zaion after she left so it's pretty clear she was in the wrong. So you have Mysta and Nina as the only people who left on good terms, simply because working for a corporation wasn't for them, while everyone else is happy. Sorry, but I don't think you should get starry-eyed about Pomu and Selen. They're staying.

>> No.60852264

>>60851480
>Yeah you did.
i know that it's a common defense mechanism for schizo fanboys to assume that everyone who argues in favor of an ex-hololive talent must be a huge fan of them who does it all the time, but that's not the case. i have never watched any of her content aside from her spilling that glass of coke 3 years ago.
>Cover's press release goes over the things she did wrong
i'm talking about the one where they said cover does not interfere with hololive talent's relationships. also the one announcing her firing was vague as hell and clearly bullshit.
>blah blah blah i'm stupid
they definitely vent to their friends all the time, i can tell you that for a fact.

>> No.60853042

>>60852264
>the one announcing her firing was vague as hell and clearly bullshit.
But it wasn't. The claims can be confirmed from korekore's stream. She made false claims about hololive and leaked confidential communications. There's proof for all of these.
>they definitely vent to their friends all the time, i can tell you that for a fact.
Those friends don't operate massive drama news channels and they do not tell those friends to go spread around their complaints like rushia did. Those friends are also not people who they exclusively contacted after two years of no interaction just to shit on their job and coworkers.
Why do you try to bullshit so much? It will NEVER work.

>> No.60853421

>>60853042
>She made false claims about hololive
i don't think we saw the same stream
>Those friends don't operate massive drama news channels
you sure about that?
>Those friends are also not people who they exclusively contacted after two years of no interaction
did you see this in a dream?
settle down my friend yagoo's not gonna fuck you.

>> No.60853661

>>60853421
>i don't think we saw the same stream
Seems like you didn't watch it at all then.
>you sure about that?
Yes. Let's see you prove that they do have them.
>did you see this in a dream?
It was on korekore stream that you're claiming to have seen. You clearly do not know shit about what happened and just love to shit and piss your pants anytime you get the chance to defend a vshojo member or shit on hololive.

>> No.60853964

>>60853661
>Seems like you didn't watch it at all then.
name one false claim.
>Yes. Let's see you prove that they do have them.
no i will not break nda sorry.
>It was on korekore stream that you're claiming to have seen.
you made a claim about "hololive members", not "one hololive member".
>just love to shit and piss your pants anytime you get the chance to defend a vshojo member or shit on hololive
schizoid delusion. please acquire medication for your delusions.

>> No.60854828
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>>60851986

>> No.60855104

>>60853964
>name one false claim.
The continuous narrative that her life is shit because of hololive staff and a senpai. Do you need direct quotes or something?
>no i will not break nda sorry.
Yeah just like that you fold and admit that you're just bullshitting.
>you made a claim about "hololive members", not "one hololive member".
No I didn't. Learn to read between the lines. What I said was that Rushia contacted korekore after two years of no contact.
Even if I did claim that, someone who you have not talked to and only contact just to leak shit from your work is not a friend.
>schizoid delusion.
You literally admitted that you never even watched her. You have no idea what you're even arguing for but you do it anyways because it's an opportunity for you to shit on hololive which you hate.

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>>60855104
>The continuous narrative that her life is shit because of hololive staff and a senpai. Do you need direct quotes or something?
that seemed to be true based on the stories she told. do you have proof that it is a lie?
>Yeah just like that you fold and admit that you're just bullshitting.
new flash nerd, there are industry people here.
>No I didn't
see pic related
>You literally admitted that you never even watched her.
doesn't matter. i haven't been to israel ever but i know that there's a war there right now.

>> No.60855886

>>60855432
>the stories she told
Why would you believe her?
>do you have proof that it is a lie?
Nobody but her fans believed her and she's the one that's fired. Not only that, she lied to them about just about everything for 3 years. She was supposed to be androphobic and not interact with men in private. She has continued to lie since.
>new flash nerd, there are industry people here.
What the fuck is this answer? You're not in hololive nor do you know anyone in there. You're a random retard on 4chan. You're not under any NDA. You're just bullshitting once again and I'm calling you out on it.
>see pic related
That's not my claim, that's what I assumed to be yours. You equated what rushit did to talking to a cashier. You're just too confused about what you're even talking about that you probably already forgot you said that.
>doesn't matter
It does matter because you don't know what happened. You're here claiming that she has been in contact with korekore throughout her whole career in hololive when that's not what happened. She only talked to him when she needed to leak some shit about her employer and coworker. That's not what you do with a friend.

>> No.60856230

>>60855886
>Why would you believe her?
one of her biggest issues involved two events that did indeed occur publicly and i tend to believe things that happen in reality. aside from that, inside info confirming a few aspects of her other stories. not gonna elaborate more on that so don't ask.
>unicorn shit
who cares.
>You're not in hololive nor do you know anyone in there.
lol
>That's not my claim, that's what I assumed to be yours.
after many retarded assumptions you'd think you would stop making them by now.
>you don't know what happened.
projection
>You're here claiming that she has been in contact with korekore throughout her whole career
no i didn't claim that. your dumb fanboy brain made that up.

>> No.60856621

>>60787647
We all do.

>> No.60856672

>>60856230
>one of her biggest issues involved two events that did indeed occur publicly
And what are those? "I can't tell i'm under NDA lamo"?
>who cares.
You do since you're still arguing. She lied and keeps lying. She's a liar.
>lol
So who do you know? Cover NDAs are bullshit anyways so you can break them freely.
>projection
You literally said that you did not watch her and you're making claims that don't match the facts.
>no i didn't claim that.
You said he's just her friend. I just told you that someone who you only talk to after you want to spread some misinfo about your employer is not a friend, especially when it takes you 2 years to talk to them after having threatened to sue them.
You didn't even watch the korekore stream.

>> No.60857270

>>60856672
>And what are those? "I can't tell i'm under NDA lamo"?
the whole concert thing
>You do since you're still arguing.
i'm not arguing about random shit that doesn't matter.
>So who do you know? Cover NDAs are bullshit anyways so you can break them freely.
i'm not getting my friends in trouble.
>You literally said that you did not watch her
you don't have to be her fan to know the facts about the situation. you just have to not be a brainless fanboy.
>You said he's just her friend.
it doesn't matter according to cover. they don't interfere with their talents' personal relationships.

>> No.60857629

>>60796904
Not this corpo is full grifting whores. When is /vt/ liking whores. Are basically E-girls.

>> No.60857757

>>60857629
What did he mean by this?

>> No.60857764

>>60857270
>the whole concert thing
Oh you mean how they didn't postpone an entire concert at a live venue because her cat died? That's not mistreatment.
>i'm not arguing about random shit that doesn't matter.
You were and still are. You also completely ignoring proof of her being a liar.
>i'm not getting my friends in trouble.
You don't have any friends. Your little "mikeneko NDA" is not real.
>you don't have to be her fan to know the facts about the situation.
True, but you keep claiming things that are contrary to the facts all the while saying that you never even watched her. The logical conclusion is that you have zero idea what you're talking about.
This LARP about having a connection to hololive down to signing an NDA but actually not giving a single fuck about hololive at all makes your troll very transparent.
>they don't interfere with their talents' personal relationships.
And they didn't. She wasn't talking to a friend, she was leaking information to a drama channel.

>> No.60857899

>>60798338
Vshojo is not different. You have self insert fagots as the boyfriend of Nyanners.

>> No.60858166

>>60802037
But alot hate Kson and Vshojo. More now that Hololive is in Taiwan. A bridge to China. Even returned to Bilibili.

>> No.60858341

>>60858166
Holy cope

>> No.60858361

>>60806076
All corporate and working structure is like that. I have jobs like that in the past. That's the real world. More if you are a freelancer employee.

>> No.60858471

>>60818332
Blackrock money and Rockefellers and Rothschild money. World order agenda to 2030.

>> No.60858502

>>60857764
>they didn't do anything wrong!
>oh that really fucked up thing that they did? my favorite brand made money from that so it was ok.
gentlemen, this is corporate whoring manifest.
>LARP
almost every single person with any amount of involvement in the anime fansub community back in the day knows someone in the industry or at least vtuber-adjacent business. it's a lot more common than you think. i'm not special i just used irc before.

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Man Vshojo must pay really well to their shills, just look at this thread, for sure that it's better than giftcards

>> No.60858588

>>60832981
Not even SEA. Still whores. Coom E-girls thots. Begone thot.

>> No.60858701

>>60834694
Spics are poor as fuck understand. They someone to pander to them. Brown people are poorfaggoots.

>> No.60858724

>>60858502
>oh that really fucked up thing that they did?
What did they fuck up, retard?
>almost every single person with any amount of involvement in the anime fansub community back in the day knows someone in the industry or at least vtuber-adjacent business.
Oh so you're just trying to seem important over knowing loserbait or someone equivalent to him. You yourself are a nobody and you have no NDA. Your little friends would also not know a damn thing about anything.

>> No.60858812

>>60842517
Not Twich is full underage retards and camwhores. Boring shit also.

>> No.60858855

>>60858724
>What did they fuck up, retard?
her mental state
>Oh so you're just trying to seem important
remember that thing i said about you making assumptions?

>> No.60859050

>>60857757
That Vshojo is full of whores. And trannies SJW retards political shit. What have any of this have to do with vtubers.

>> No.60859127

>>60858855
>her mental state
By not postponing an entire concert over a dead cat? That's not their fault.
>remember that thing i said about you making assumptions?
It's not an assumption, it's exactly what you're doing. You are nobody imporant and just happen to know someone who might know someone else. That's literally it.
I'm sure you're formally contracted to work for hololive and that's why you come to 4chan to anti the whole vtuber group.

>> No.60859131

>>60858341
Ok. Faggots. Show me proof is not true. Then even play a fucking Chinese made game. Party Animals.>>60858341

>> No.60859241

>>60858508
Why do post a vtuber that doesn't stream.???O_o

>> No.60859350

>>60859131
Seems like you don't understand the situation around chinese games and permissions in general.

>> No.60859701

>>60859127
>That's not their fault.
yea it is.
>a jealous spergout
stay mad and shill harder, if you keep it up maybe yagoo will hire you as his personal fluffer and you can learn even more than me.

>> No.60859941

>>60859701
>yea it is.
They didn't kill the cat nor are they in a position to move an entire concert.
Please keep shitting on hololive. I'm sure whoever was unfortunate enough to have your anti ass work for them really appreciates you calling for the end of her career. You should do everything possible to speed up that process.

>> No.60860536

>>60859941
>nor are they in a position to move an entire concert
they literally are.
>I'm sure whoever was unfortunate enough to have your anti ass work for them really appreciates you calling for the end of her career.
if what i said actually made a difference i wouldn't, but nothing will stop yagoo's fanboys from sucking him off so it doesn't matter. expect a bunch of graduations once the money dries up though, it's a very stressful place.

>> No.60860775

>>60860536
>they literally are.
No they're not. You can't just delay an event like that over a dead animal. That's just not normal.

>> No.60860903

>>60787404
>backstabbers
Nijisister detected, cope and seethe.

>> No.60867033

>>60786927
ogey

>> No.60867304

>>60786927
The people who left were a significant portion of why Vshojo was disliked in the first place

>> No.60870541

>>60787343
seething faggoon

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