Shots fired

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vshitjo has management?

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>>60738171
Sayu was right, Niji management is really shitty

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>>60738222
holonijikeks don't know management exists unless they see their streamers complaining about them

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>>60738171
i thought nazuna complained about how fucking useless the management was? is en different or they just sucking up to her?

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>>60738311
Like nazuna complaining about being blocked from playing wizard game?
Holos mostly speak well of their managers, niji is niji.

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>>60738476
She probably has to get a translator.

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>>60738476
>bullying the only non english speaking person in the company
Wouldn't expect anything less from vshitshow.

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>>60738476
Nazuna's manager in Holo was basically her tardwrangler who kept her from ruining her own career up until she ruined her own career.
Compared to that VShojo's manager probably seems lazy for just wanting to help her with projects and collabs and not be a personal babysitter.

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>>60738586
how many holoen's have you seen playing wizard game? or is it ok when hololive does it?

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so how are the Nijikeks going to spin this one in favor of management i wonder?

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>>60738586
>complaining
tweet reader detected

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>>60738717
The point is, Holos CAN play it if they want to. They didn't want to

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>>60738815
source?

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>>60738476
>i thought nazuna complained about everything and everyone
I mean, yeah, she does that a lot. The batshit crazy jap might not be the best barometer for management competence.

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>>60738815
vshojos can play it if they want to also

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>>60738222
Even if they don't, I'm pretty sure having no msnager is better then whatever she had before.
By my own admission, I don't know because I can't tolerate twitch.

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>>60738222
We just found out live she not just has a manager entirely for herself but the other managers of other talents chimed in to help AND the other vtubers.

How can we make Niggersanji better???

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>>60738898
>I can't tolerate twitch.
good we don't need your kind over there.

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>>60738717
Quite a few jp's played the wizard game. It was purely a Western thing for there to be issues.

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>>60739078
the harry potter hate mob is english only

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>Nijitards really think holoen didn't get the wizard permission when id and jp was playing it for months
they simply choose not to deal with the troon mobs

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>>60739175
And so it’s VShojo audience, thing why they warned members as said by Vei (Silver ignored this btw) and after the whole shit exploded, better tell the menhera “nah bro don’t do it, it’s banned” to save themselves from more shit

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>>60738815
How do you know the EN holos weren't told by management not to play it?
Isn't it kinda weird that nobody played one of the biggest releases of the year in that entire branch?

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>>60739733
They didn't ban Nazuna, she explained that her manager told her about it, but she tweeted "it's ng" so that's what holotards went with.

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>>60739894
It's not really that weird, since the release was followed by a witch hunt against all Western Vtubers who even considered playing the transphobic game.
Even Pikamee got a slice of that twitter freaks hatred

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they better have learned how to have good management by now

considering the amount of reputational damage they got from the Nux Drama, a direct consequence of lacking proper communication with talents at the time

still cannot believe the talents weren’t even notified that vshojo was in direct communication with Nux on the video until it was too late

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>>60740262
Nobody cares nobody likes nux

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>>60739894
>one of the biggest releases of the year
I literally forgot about it until this thread

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>>60739894
>isn't it kinda weird no one played a game twitter troons were trying to boycott before it even came out and that got 2 english-speaking vtubers into deep shit just for olaying it?

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>>60740262
>reddit spacing
yeap

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>>60740262
Killing Nux's career was a public service and did nothing but approve my opinion of Vshojo.

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>>60740533
reddit spacing?
haven’t been on reddit for almost a decade
I do the spacing because a big block of text looks ugly

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>>60738171
again with this kind of bait-
new member expresses happiness with new company = shots fired?
get real kek

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>>60739733
>shit exploded
Was a couple of fags on twitter, could have been ignored and forgotten in a few days

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>>60738476
>using the menhera of all menhera's as a example
nice half baked IQ

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Reminder that if any of you cried or at least felt bad for this you are a fucking retard

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>>60740980
If anything positive they say feels like a negative comment about their previous org that just means the previous one was miserable

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>>60741170
>I-it doesn't count
Cope Vshitshowfag

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>>60741314
what is your opinion on her allegations of abuse at cover corp

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I don't even know who this is

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>>60741369
>allegations of abuse

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>>60741387
you're right i meant factual claims of abuse with receipts

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>>60741420
>claims of abuse

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>>60741255
thank you mr paint

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>>60741441
>i-it doesn't count
naruhodo

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>>60741483
Use english correctly if you don't want to be slagged off

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Are all the Daily Dose of X channels run by the same person? Seems weird to have one for one person

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>>60741508
wait do you not know the word "claim" lmao

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>>60738309
>>60738476
Nazuna
>Complains about Vshojo management
Matara
>Praises the Vshojo management
Not surprising considering where they came.

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>>60741549
Brownboy, tell us in detail about the claims.
As far as I know, she mentioned an incident of bullying by another female.
What we need to know, is what you consider to be abuse.

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>>60741626
Kson's praised the VShojo management too. Nazuna is a giga menhera. Like that other anon said you shouldn't take her word on anything that doesn't come with receipts.

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>>60738586
being advised not to play wizard game*

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>>60741626
Kek the Niji to Vshojo arc has highlighted over and over again the incompetecy of NijiEN.

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>>60740410
>>60740583

I was implicitly referring to how the mismanagement led to the talents being under a lot of stress

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>>60741689
Hindsight has made it clear that Kson is a snake

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>>60738717
How many holoens have you seen playing ANY fucking game

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>>60741631
workplace harassment is abuse. and next time when you pretend to be a native english speaker don't insert random unnecessary commas into your sentence.

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>>60741626
>let me use the craziest bitch in all of vtubing as a trusted and reliable source

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>>60738586
>Like nazuna complaining about being blocked from playing wizard game?
just like every single HoloEN and NijiEN talent? or you going to forget no one on the EN branches streamed hogwarts? Nazuna wouldn't take 1 minute of trannie harassment before exploding

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>>60741778
>i-it doesn't count!
cope holoshitshowfag
>>60741792
that's a fair point

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>>60741796
>ESL doesn't like his text to be legible and fun to read
And again, you're just throwing out more things you need to define.
Workplace harassment isn't a real thing. Explain it to us.

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>>60738171
Sigh. Ok who is this, i dont keep up with graddies

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>>60740502
So we agreeing vshojo did a good thing by advising nazuna to not play?

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>>60741858
cope

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>>60741892
Matara Kan, formerly Nina Kosaka

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>>60741891
english speakers know what workplace harassment is.

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>>60741988
Nahone

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>>60742025
English speakers can give their positions without relying on nonsense terms.
As far as its been made clear so far, there has been no abuse claimed.

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>>60741689
I agree but there's also a difference in tonality. Particularly when both the Nijitalents jumped ship voluntarily and have been critical of the management in the past. Regardless, if they are all currently being treated well in Vshojo I'm happy for them.

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>>60742073
https://www.archives.gov/files/eeo/policy/facts-about-workplace-harassment.pdf
https://www.eeoc.gov/harassment
here's a couple of links to start you off eslbro. the legal definitions don't necessarily apply to japan but they should give you a good idea of what the phrase means.

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>>60741814
>craziest bitch in all of vtubing
It's kind of surprising that the Holo management was even able to keep a leash on that menhera. Her post Vshojo arc has been interesting to say the least.

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>>60742216
Again, what information is lacking is where Nazuna claimed there was abuse.
Concession anon, I know you're the brown person typing just now.
You attack holos using other holomems like Bae and Mori as a shield.
Either get on with your point, or stop being so brown.

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>>60742313
your english was pretty good up until this post but you've blown your cover.

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I can't keep track of all the people switching around and resurfacing under new names. I wish there was a wiki or something that kept track of vtuber changes.

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>>60741689
Also, Kson does take more benefits that Nazuna doesn't. For example, for her con apperances in LA, she did got helped by them at getting tickets and obviously helping her around, so basically Kson does use more VShojo than Nazuna does. And someone that had some hope for Nazuna, she did got help with some stuff, they did set up two main stuff for her, one is her on screen translator, which if you know Nazuna, you know that conversation wasn't easy, and they made some overlays for them to make bits look like Youtube Superchats.

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>>60738222
Yeah. Their talent director Panini used to serve as manager for several of them but they seem to mostly have personal managers now.. Panini has even been on stream multiple times like during Mouse's Disneyland stream. She's pretty chill.

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>>60742484
Nazuna has been invited to every Vshojo thing Kson has attended and she ditched them all.

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>>60742484
Nazuna just doesn't like VShojo because it isn't Hololive. If you know anything about her you know she still hasn't gotten over being fired, and likely never will. She still deludes herself into thinking she can someday get back into Hololive. So VShojo management not being identical to the tardwranglers she had in Hololive probably triggers her.

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>>60742731
They called her to AX and she ditched in the last moment.

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so are past lives just not a thing anymore? have we stopped doing that?

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>>60738717
Half of JP and ID did. Moona banned the vshojo woketards from her chat. EN had perms too they just were too scared of getting murdered by a troon terrorist.

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>>60742390
Mate you're ESL as fuck and your skin is literally shit coloured

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>>60742811
yeah the problem with nazuna is that she wants to be rushia. Vshojo gave her a good oportunity for her to start over but she kept clinging to the past. I think even kson gave up on her already.

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>>60742470
Lurk more fag or take a peek at the doxsite. But do not overstay your welcome it's infested with rabid sisters.

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>>60742838
Mods don't bother if it's Niji, and I don't think anyone that watches vshojo cares in the first place. I wish at least the infornation being easy to access would let people temper their twisting of people's words.

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>>60742852
Niji and VShojo also had perms, they just didn't want to play it for the same reason. Zaion even confirmed that NijiEN had perms but management advised them against playing it. It's just a very fine line between "management advising not doing something for your own best interest" and "management blocking it" but we should stop pretending HoloEN just all universally decided not to play wizard game on their own. It's obvious management advised them not to do so just like every other EN corpo.

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>>60738171
Ah yes, nothing gets me going more than people being spiteful. Karma is a bitch.

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>>60741255
It was ok to be sad about pikamee it was an end of an era for her. The nijis i understand

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>>60742859
my friend your post is almost incomprehensible grammar-wise and the fact that you have random schizo shit in there as well makes it complete nonsense. you're doing some pretty heavy projecting and it's obvious and embarrassing.

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>>60742838
I mean if you have the freedom to do so, you might as well. It's one of vtuber's unspoken rules that got here in the west due to corporations like Niijisanji and Hololive, remember that Shirori (?) did a few teasers from her old life to symbolize this new one. For example, Henya doesn't dicuss it all too much, she just genuinely wants to focus on Henya, and she's happy, of course things like Dayo or Kettle were going to come back, and her chat it's filled with retards, but she tries her best to ignore it and obviously her friends are retards as well
https://youtu.be/zYvaoJwh1AM?t=13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qvxa0xVGIA

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>>60743099
>no response
shitskin when are you going to back up your claims

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>>60743132
just search mike's twitter newfag. you want me to feed you a bottle and wipe your butt too?

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>>60738476
it’s relative anon. Both had different management prior to joing vshojo and Uruha Rushia is a household name not even in holo but vtubers in general

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>>60743201
So you've been seething about being ESL and brown and are now admitting to making shit up.

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>>60741369

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>>60743266
>i haven't heard about the biggest drama to hit the vtubing world this past year, that makes you a liar
just stop

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>>60743335
>admits to making shit up

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>>60743335
>>60743387

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>>60741255
>literally ends with "see you next time"
>SHES GONE FOREVER
the only people who thought picklemee was leaving forever were tourist vpolniggers and people who didnt watch her

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>NIJISISTERS TRYING HARD TO SPIN
> NIJISANJI ITS BETTER MANAGMENT THAN HOLOLIVE

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>>60743387
just to be clear, are you accusing me of lying, as in i made up the fact that mike cat aired a bunch of grievances with cover? if i post them, will you swap to calling her a liar instead?

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i dont care about any of this, i just want to say that as a hololive man, i want to fuck roach pussy

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>>60743657
>>60741369
It's not complicated you stupid brown asian piece of shit.

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>>60743702
alrighty then. the one that i remember off the top of my head is that they forced her to perform in a concert that she didn't want to be involved in due to her grieving the loss of a beloved pet. she wanted to either not participate or reschedule it for the future but cover didn't allow it. your thoughts?

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>>60743660
I hope that one day you can have monster girls in your company too, anon

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>>60743660

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>>60743778
My thoughts are>>60741387

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>Let's see what going on in this threa-
Jesus fucking christ.

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>>60743827
so you have chosen cope. i am not surprised.

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why did she name her self nearly identical to a SMT spell?

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why do these dramabait threads always devolve into shitflinging about who's more sea?

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>>60743875

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>>60743948
Because they're SEA. Except you, who's Indian.

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>>60738171
NijiEN's management is so confusing, it feels like a lottery that you'll either get someone decent or absolute shit.
Lazulight loved theirs, then she left and I guess their new one is fine
Selen liked her manager then she got a different one who she hated.
Yugo wanted to kill her manager.
I thought Iluna had the same manager who was pretty good, but Aia said they each have a different one so I don't fucking know.
A majority of the board knows about Zaion's experience.
Shit is fucking confusing man.

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>>60743948
no one hates sea people more than sea people

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>>60743948
Rushia anti is notoriously brown skinned.
You've probably seen him also shit on Fauna, Mumei, IRyS and Gura.
He has a catchphrase, the ill-timed use of "I accept your concession"

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>>60744095
i am white as hell and have literally never watched any of those people. i accept your concession though.

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>>60742948
Yeah, you mean the same Zaion who got fired for confirming that they had wizard game perms?

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>>60743902
It's a Russian pun
Mat' - Mother
Tarakan - Cockroach
Quite literally Mama Roach
*Last Resort intensifies*

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>>60744147
You're from the Philippines

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>>60744190
makarakarn

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>>60744288
closer to philadelphia

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>>60738655
That is true she needs a psychiatrist more than a manager.

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>>60744447
>hard coping
Mate I can take a picture of my backgarden right now showing that it's around 6am and include my skin.
You're brown and in SEA.

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>>60744502
do it

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>>60744478
Psychiatrist can't help you if you don't take your meds

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>>60744478
She did went to a psychiatrist at some point but she decided she's completely cured and stopped taking her meds

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>>60741778
>snake
The tatsunoko, as a limbless lizard, would be defined as a slowworm, not a true snake.

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>>60744588
>doesn't do it
so you're SEA

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it was really funny watching her stream and being blown away that her manager was offering marketing for her project ideas.

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>>60744793
>Mate I can take a picture of my backgarden right now showing that it's around 6am and include my skin
>i say to do it
>no you
huh?

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>>60744903
There was never any doubt about where im from retard >>60742859
The person that's been lying in this thread is you.
If you can't even be honest about where you're from, no one is going to take you seriously.
At least be a brown SEA monkey boy and admit to it.

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>>60744055
Not confusing at all. They probably hire and set managers like they shit out wave after wave without really caring who they hire exactly, just to get out new talent for more money.

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>>60744867
Well we know for a fact that back when she was in Niji she had to do stuff micromanage the engagement of her spnsored tweets and when she asked for advice the staff resonse was essentially "dunno lol, figure something out"

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>>60744502
https://litter.catbox.moe/t0aoas.jpg

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>>60745309
SEA

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>>60745058
>>60744903(me)
kek the anon you were actually having an argument is white im white you just show a dark photo of some hands

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>>60745457
Literally SEA, it's midnight in Philadelphia

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>>60745493
do they not have light bulbs where you live

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>>60745543
Monkeyboy is too thick to realise that the light is coming from his shitty fence door

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>>60745563
have you heard of europe

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>>60738586
>His favorite EN vtuber didn't stream WIZARD GAME while openly taunting twitterfags
>mine did

Truly the strongest

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>>60745600
Aye, where it's dark at 6am because it's October.
Like I showed you, >>60745058

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>>60738586
>complaining about being blocked from playing wizard game?
So just like holos then? Nobody was allowed to play the wizard game there.

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>>60741689
You can take her word on something like VSJP being forgotten about, she begged since the moment she joined for more members and it took them an entire year to scrounge up 1 English speaker (which made her feel worse about being the only non-English speaker as everything behind the scenes was in English)

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>>60745634
They were allowed, HomotroonEN put them in a position where they would get attacked if they did by saying "It's for the cause"

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>>60738655
But she hated her manager in holo and her manager is historically the worst one any vtuber has ever had to deal with.
>lol just don't say anything for the whole weekend we will be back to work on monday who cares if you don't have a bf lol

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is this a skincare thread?

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>>60745759
this is the schizo thread

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>>60738586
>blocked
Reading comprehension reps. It was a warning/recommendation, which was more than justified with all the shitshow around that game.

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>>60745857
technically that would be listening comprehension reps, she elaborated that on stream but her vague tweet made it sound like it was forbidden.

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>>60745857
>shitshow
there was more of a shitshow when the girls played Overwatch

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>>60745671
They weren't allowed

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while I do hate SEAposters it's really cool that we can't have a debate on this board without needing proof of skin color at some point along the way

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>>60745949
They were allowed. They had perms for the english version of the game. That literally means they were allowed to play it.

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>>60745733
>>lol just don't say anything for the whole weekend we will be back to work on monday who cares if you don't have a bf lol
NTA, but that was BS. All her manager told her was to wait while they deal with it. The "they didn't work on weekend" wasn't mentioned anywhere and was made up by Rushiafags as some sorts of guesses / excuses because they didn't want to believe she was so big of a menehra that she couldn't wait for more than few hours. Rushia said she didn't get any further reply, but that doesn't mean they weren't working on it.
Mafumafu said his manager was working with Cover's management the day after, so clearly someone from Cover was working on that as Rushia's manager told her.

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>>60745938
... huh? why?

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>>60738815
And VShojo talents could have played it too.
In fact, if you remember, one of them did.

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>>60745961
turns out it doesn't matter your skin color because you'll just be accused of being an albino filipino. schizos are very inclusive these days.

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>>60745985
Then why didn't they?

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>>60745985
So management was totally supportive of Bae playing Genital Jousting right? it's not that Cover just requests permissions from all publishers who are willing to give it?

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>>60746000
Because it takes a couple minutes to block some trannies and you can't just block your longest fans.
That's why it would never have been a shitshow.
>>60746084
Yes, they were supportive.

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>>60745634
They HAVE the perms, nobody is not allowed to play, everyone in hololive branch got the "go" from the first day the game was out. JP plays it, ID too, hell, Moona play it day 1.
It's just one of the homo says he's not playing it "for the cause" and make it extra awkward for everyone in EN to play Hogwards.

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>>60746038
Well for gura I know she said she wasn't interested and that it wasn't worth the trouble regardless iirc

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>>60746110
>Yes, they were supportive
I will not believe you without proof on this one anon.

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>>60746123
The publisher allowing it doesn't mean the talent is allowed by the company that they work at. Cover has the final say in what's allowed.

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>>60746187
Oh im sorry I was expecting you to return with evidence for your own beliefs, not just making stuff up based on nothing.

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>>60746110
I don't see how what you're saying pertains to the reality we both live in. Just take Silver's playing of the game as an example, or remember the shame-list that was going around of streamers who'd played the game.

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>>60746123
So they weren't allowrd because hololive is "for the cause".

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>>60738171
1 new hire manager for 2 branch(10 talents) is more than enough. Vshoujo is wasting their money.

[Anonymous No.]

>People are still arguing about the harry potter game to this day

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>>60746187
All Hololive streams have to go through their managers first, anon. It's not like Bae could've just gone rogue and went "Hey, this looks fun, I will just stream it without informing my manager".

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>>60746235
You want me to believe that Hololive, the idol company where even saying the fuck word is seen as a yab, was fully supportive of one of their talent playing a game with penises flopping around at all times. You're the one making the extraordinary claim, so it requires extraordinary evidence.

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>>60746243
Silver gained viewers from it and that list is just a list.
I have lists of people who killed me in a video game

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showing off your skintone has got to be the funniest manchild behavior ive ever seen in this board

[Anonymous No.]

>>60746260
Nobody said they have a manager for every person. They probably have some people pulling double or triple duty.

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>>60746308
That's what I remember happened though? I don't think the stream was planned, or it was scheduled as a "???". Ultimately it's the talent that presses the Start Stream button, there's nothing preventing her from doing that.

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Who?

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>>60746314
I don't know where to start with your delusions about management.
Yes they were supportive of her playing the game because she did it as Bae, using Hololive permissions.
If you think otherwise, you should have a reason for it.
Why do you think management had a problem with it, specifically what evidence do you have to think that?

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>>60746332
do I need to point out how weak or a response that is or were you already aware

[Anonymous No.]

>>60746421
You need to point it out.
Who made the list, what authority do they have. What job does the person have?
What is the list doing now?

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>>60746308
That's exactly what she did. She played the game without specific perms because it's by devolver.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60742948
Vshitshow defenders are now probably the worst fanbase to invade /here/. Holy fuck are you faggots annoying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60745493
>nobody can possibly be awake and on 4chan at midnight

[Anonymous No.]

>>60746555
>sunlight

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>>60745493

Am I japanese because I live in Japan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>60738990
The only solution is to kill it with fire or let it rot

[Anonymous No.]

>>60746555
Look closer. There is sunlight in the background (through his fenced door / gate)

[Anonymous No.]

>>60738476
Holo managers are babysitters

[Anonymous No.]

>>60746363
Mouse has 2 managers kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>60746637
Doesn't really matter but that's a difference in asian culture.
If someone from India moves to the UK and does UK things, he is british now.

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>>60746495
You are fucking retarded, she did ask for confirmation if they actually had perms for it when she saw it on the list of games they have perms for and her manager even asked "are you really sure about this" right before the stream, there are even clips of it, meaning you are worse than even clipniggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>60746810
>If someone from India moves to the UK and does UK things, he is british now.
HAHA no

[Anonymous No.]

>>60741542
It's probably a conglomerate of several clippers who split the revenue. Their titles and thumbnails are very similar across multiple channels, and there's no way one single person is curating all of these clippable moments themselves and then doing the editing. Other fairly large clipping channels are known to be made up of multiple people, some as many as a dozen.

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>>60746637
Depends. If you have been living and immersing in their culture long enough, you can be considered virtually a nip.
However, it's rather suspicious given how defensive you was - to the point of trying to lie about it (>>60745543, >>60745600), don't you think?

[Anonymous No.]

>>60746868
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>IM WHITE IM WHITE OH GOD PLEASE BELIEVE ME IM WHITE
This is a vtuber board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60746875
>Depends. If you have been living and immersing in their culture long enough, you can be considered virtually a nip.
I've been living here for 3 years and I'm a regular at a few local bars
I'm still not Japanese.
I'm a foreigner forever

[Anonymous No.]

>>60744707
>person is crazy
>actually gets meds that work
>no longer crazy
>decides to stop taking them because they don't feel crazy anymore
>person is crazy once again
Such many cases.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60746495
>>60746381
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eKHjibjrzY
Her manager was fully aware that she was going to stream it and double checked with her the night before the stream, too. Bae also checked with her manager if she was cleared to play it as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60746927
>3 years
nta but he was probably thinking more like 30

[Anonymous No.]

>>60746990
3, 10, 30., 50
You'll always be a foreigner.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60738171
nijidrones assemble we must lick our corpo IPO and make niji great again
no wonder everything just dumpster fire in niji lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>60746692
that's a different guy then the one you spent this entire thread arguing with (me).

[Anonymous No.]

>>60747047
I don't live in Japan.
My children will be Japanese though

[Anonymous No.]

>>60738171
This doesn't exist in nishitsanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>60747088
>My children will be Japanese though

[Anonymous No.]

>>60747160
Is that a fucking Nep post in 2023?

[Anonymous No.]

>>60747160
you children won't be

[Anonymous No.]

I can't believe all of you retards dont understand what she means. In Nijisanji or in hololive, your personal projects dont have managers asking shit for you, they will help you with shit if you ask them. Thats why shes surprised. We know from both holoen and nijien that the managers help them with covers and shit if they ask for recommendations for artists or to contact mixers, artists, producers and the like. So yes, you faggots here and on youtube dont understand what she meant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60746535
>invade
/vsj+/ has been a thread since the inception of the board you retard

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>>60746360
for the record i only did it to add to the lore of the schizo i am accused of being. next time someone insults bae or and this guy accuses him of being an albino filipino pretending to live in philly you can thank me.

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>>60747373
Uhhh shut up, vshojo good niji bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>60747530
You're not white just because you don't go out in the sun monkey boy

[Anonymous No.]

>>60738476
VShoujo managers are better than Niji managers, but worse than Hololive managers apparently

[Anonymous No.]

>>60747696
Kson definitely prefers her manager over Holo's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60747722
Anon we are aware of everything Kson has done since leaving hololive.
Ofcourse it's allowed in vwhorejo

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>>60747531
i think what that anon meant is that nina was talking about how in nijien she would need to ask her manager in a personal project, while in vshojo the manager asks her about it. i agree with that interpretation, because i also remember other members saying their managers helped them before

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>>60739045
It is the opposite, we need more of his kind here to kick out the tourists

[Anonymous No.]

>>60747373
So what you're saying are clip channels are actively trying to add more fuel to the already heated vshojo v niji tribalfaggotry? Cuz the title + thumbnail bait caused this shitfest of a thread.

[Anonymous No.]

All these ex nijis keep shitting on nijisanji after leaving
Meanwhile the CEO claims they left because they didn't want to be a vtuber anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>60747858
Lol imagine reading that and believing he tells the truth, Nijiniggers truly are retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>60738222
That's probably the reason why Veibae left. Didn't wanted anyone breathing on her neck.

[Anonymous No.]

I honestly, seriously believe that Kson has an ownership interest in Vshojo. She just has to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60747373
>No proof that none of Holo managers takes incentive to "ask shit for you"
>H-Holo is the same, I swear
Pft

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>>60747855
yes? just watching the video and knowing what other nijien vtubers have said about managers and staff helping them with it, its clear to me that shes not shitting on them, its more that shes surprised the managers are proactive about personal projects.

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>>60747858
Hololive does the opposite and forces out people who would have wanted to stay and then claim they wanted to leave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60738815
HoloEN not playing the game was probably peer pressure. I can see most of them being against it because of not wanting to court controversy or because they support the cause.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60741626
You have to take anything Nazuna says with a grain of salt

[Anonymous No.]

>>60747858
>Even though we were able to manifest their abilities as a VTuber, they decide to quit

[Anonymous No.]

>>60741369
>allegations of abuse
go back to twitter

[Anonymous No.]

>>60746260
This can't be real. I know that, unlike Holo, Niji has way more people to handle so an individual manager for each talent is impossible for them, but one new hire for ten people is also unlikely.
Now I'm kinda curious actually, any nijimem said in a stream on this topic?

[Anonymous No.]

>>60748133
I think the worst documented case is one manager for six people (xsoleil according to sayu) but I think anon is throwing an arbitrarily ridiculous number here

[Anonymous No.]

>>60747994
Melody probably got her in VShojo by giving her ownership stakes. That way Kson accomplishes her goal of being an owner and manager of a VTuber group.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60747812
You talking about Kson having fun streaming? Yea that doesn't fly at Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60748239
>You talking about Kson having fun streaming?
no

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>>60747373
no, if they want to create a project, Niji's managers tend to find ways to reject them, because of their own incompetence and project's approval often appears to rely on sheer luck. The talents will receive minimal support, just like how they had to budget their own debut lore with their own money and find artist by themselves kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>60748225
Why do catalogfags think kson wants to be a wageslave manager

[Anonymous No.]

>>60748324
>She originally applied as manager.
>Has retard belief of "male collab fine, boyfriend isn't" for vtubers
>Doesn't actually work hard as a content creator.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60738717
Plus many EN were in JP, only having laptops and unable to play. Gura said she's not a real Potter fan and it just wasn't worth it. Holofes was about to start.

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>>60748042
Ah yes, can't forget about the massive number of the hololive graduations.

All 3 of them, out which only 1 could be argued was caused by management.

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>>60748324
Everyone says that when Kson auditioned for Hololive she did so as a manager but was hired as a talent instead. And that when she quit she had the dream of creating her own VTuber group. And in a way KSon did create VShojo.

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>>60748385
>She originally applied as manager.
No she didn't

[Anonymous No.]

>>60748385
>She originally applied as manager.
no she didn't lmao
>Has retard belief of "male collab fine, boyfriend isn't" for vtubers
???
>Doesn't actually work hard as a content creator.
????

[Anonymous No.]

>>60748133
Its not real. We know that they have 1 talent manager for each wave in EN at the very least

[Anonymous No.]

>>60748462
>>60748463
newfags, she applied to be a manager at Cover

[Anonymous No.]

>>60748397
Is there anyone in EN that's a Harry Potter fan? Everyone seems too young and into shit like Naruto to be really into le Wizard book.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60748462
>>60748463
Newfag spotted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60748495
>>60748510
Catalogniggers spotted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60748415
All of them were caused by management.

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>>60748287
Are you a retard? We are talking about personal projects so of course the budget is on the member. We have plenty of examples of songs and events that had the members mentioning staff and managers helping them. Millie just a few weeks ago mentioned her manager helping her contacting a big producer.
>just like how they had to budget their own debut lore with their own money
Debut lore isn't any obligation to happen, its a retardation invented by EN and only done by it. many dont even do it. the "lore" done by the company is the one appearing in their description and thats it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60745058
>>60745457
wow showing your skin on blue board. have some class you sluts

[Anonymous No.]

>>60748534
>doesn't watch streams
>new

[Anonymous No.]

Nijifags, stop bickering, just take the L, you are used to it

[Anonymous No.]

>>60748415
Coco is the clear example, but its difficult to say that aloe wasnt also a management issue, or specifically onboarding and preparing talents.

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>>60748497
Not as much as JP and ID. Pekora said she begged her mom to get the book. Since it was like a status symbol at school to carry around. No one was going to stop Moona from playing it. Her fans quickly shutting down any opposition on Twitter.

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>>60748510
>>60748534
>>60748495
>>60748385
She only mentioned she originally planned to apply as staff but then applied as a talent when the auditions for gen4 opened, she never said she applied as a manager

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>>60748609
Kson literally said on stream that she auditioned to be a vtuber to multiple companies (Holo and Niji). Coco also literally spent her entire career complaining about how being a wagie is a nightmare and talking about how much happier she is to play videogames all day so "I don't watch Kson" is not an acceptable excuse either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60748826
That's not what she said.
>>60748828
Cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>60748609
Link the stream then

[Anonymous No.]

>>60738171
vshoujo is laughable because every washed up whore that ends there always complains about the company she came from before. the only saving grace in that entire company is the kettle

[Anonymous No.]

>>60748849
https://youtu.be/zkKSuDlXqBs?t=867
watch streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>60748917
Not watching that.
She applied for management position, was told to apply as vtuber instead.
Anything she says after Coco, is irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60748937
I noticed there's no link to a stream in your post, what's up with that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>60738222
We know of at least one, she's called Panini. She's also on their minecraft server.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60749003
I noticed there's a lot of melanin on your skin

[Anonymous No.]

>>60748550
Now I know you are just shitposting

>>60748681
That's quite the stretch, the only thing that could be faulted to management was making sure she deleted the fucking test stream she did and made sure she sanitized her RM twitter before debut, Delta actually talked about the whole thing and she mentioned that Cover was quite supportive of her, she was far from "forced out by Cover" like the other retard claims

[Anonymous No.]

>>60748133
>>60748197
>>60748470

I've been digging, and it seems like newer NijiEN has 1 manager/gen, but old gen like luxiem have more than one.
Also one of the threads I read mentions NijiID and NijiKR, and from that thread, I watched some clips that led to the Ex-ID graduation stream.
Hell, NijiID seems to be in a catastrophically worse situation, completely underfunded, and lacking any direction from their manager.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60748937
>catalogmonkey fanfiction canonized by being repeated 10000 times with no source being provided any of those times
vs
>the actual person saying it

[Anonymous No.]

>>60749287
>knows its lost to time
>seething hard anyway
We get it, your skin colour is brown

[Anonymous No.]

>>60749324
>redditors saying "hmm i think i remember that"
vs.
>>60748917
the bitch herself

[Anonymous No.]

>>60749372
This isn't about me showing you that im correct, it's about making fun of you for being wrong.
I was there when she said it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60741626
Nazuna complained about Hololive management even more and you dont take that seriously either, do you?

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>>60748552
Millie experienced favorable treatment from Niji, similar to Luca, who defended that garbage company. Yeah sureeely other member experience the same nice treatment right? The next thing you see Selen get banned to held another international event and Pomu gone into burnout because of multiple project refusals

[Anonymous No.]

>>60749422
You have never watched her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60749464
Your skin colour is brown

[Anonymous No.]

>>60749247
You'd think the newer gens should get more resources to help the rookies succeed, eh

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>>60749324
>staff = manager
Also the original narrative was that she applied as a video producer but got told she should wait for gen4 auditions instead.

It was never mentioned she wanted to be a manager until she announced her graduation and people started coping saying she was starting her own vtuber agency that people started going "oh yeah I remember reading somewhere else she originally applied as a manager"

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>>60749422
>coco applied to be a manager guise!!
>coco is secretly a half manager half talent guise!!
>coco is using her management status to force cover to pull out china despite akutan our beloved protesting it guise!!!
>kson is starting her own company and is gonna try poaching all the holos guise!!
>kson owns a part of vshojo that's why she keeps shilling it so hard when she says they did good stuff for her guise!!!
yeah fuck off pingpong ling

[Anonymous No.]

>>60749561
There is no original narrative.
She said on stream she applied as a manager and it was at the same time as gen 4 application.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60749247
anon we all know that about ID, theres a reason they got merged, they dont care if they stay or leave, thats why its like this in the first place with no resources going to it

[Anonymous No.]

>>60738171
>reincarnates
>IMMEDIATELY starts clipbaiting drama
That's my ma alright. This venom is gonna take a few months to come out of her system fully.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60749596
Actually she said on stream she auditioned to be a vtuber at a famous vtuber company using her old model. >>60748917

[Anonymous No.]

>>60749460
Its the higher ups of the managers in the branch that decide that, not the managers, the managers are the contact between everything, so selen and pomu thing are approvals, not things asking for help, so approvals are going to higher ups

[Anonymous No.]

>>60749658
She said on stream she applied as a manager and it was at the same time as gen 4 application

[Anonymous No.]

>>60749690
https://youtu.be/zkKSuDlXqBs?t=867

[Anonymous No.]

>>60749713
Coco said on stream she applied as a manager and it was at the same time as gen 4 application

[Anonymous No.]

>>60749728
Surely you could link to the stream or at least provide a clip

[Anonymous No.]

>>60738586
>still talking about culture war flashpoint game
Why? How is this possible?

[Anonymous No.]

>>60749789
Not my problem that you weren't watching streams.
If you were less brown, you wouldn't be getting made fun of

[Anonymous No.]

>>60749728
How come you won't watch a 10 second Japanese video and pulled up redditors as a source? Did you really hear Coco say that? Because it kinda seems like you're a larping EOP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60749806
People are still super hung up on it, more than the trannies are. It's kind of wild.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60749838
>Did you really hear Coco say that?
Yes, the fact you didn't is why you're being made fun of

[Anonymous No.]

Derail success!

[Anonymous No.]

>>60749871
i trust a timestamped recording of my oshi more than what some /r/numbers chimpoid who is open about hating her says about her with his only source being fucking reddit

[Anonymous No.]

>>60749969
You don't realise what is happening your skin is that dark coloured.
You're being made fun of. I don't care about what evidence you have.
I was there.
You weren't there.
You're a newfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60750004
We accept your concession.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60750117
its crying

[Anonymous No.]

>>60750004
>i hate this person but you have to fully trust me when i talk shit about her because i was le there even though i have no proof of being there or her actually doing the things i claim
just admit you have no critical thinking skills and accept everything you see repeated enough times as a fact

[Anonymous No.]

>>60750150
>no critical thinking skills
>calls the reddit image a source
We get it, you are brown

[Anonymous No.]

>>60750150
Stop arguing with the projecting seanig

[Anonymous No.]

>>60750150
>i have no proof of being there
These seaniggers actually think they are in a discussion and not just being mocked for being newfags

[Anonymous No.]

>>60746314
>Saying the fuck word is a yab
Holy fucking delusional Vshocuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>60750264

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>>60738171
Every members that got out from the agency seems to be having a good time. Lord how bad is NijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>60742604
Panini based. it's reassuring to know that Tara can take it easy now while having a decent personal manager

[Anonymous No.]

>>60751452
Sounds like a regular Japanese corporate entertainment company. They all suck even to japs themselves, now imagine fragile western amateurs trying to adapt to their conditions, nobody with an ego can survive there and it's only a matter of time before others break.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60751452
Yugo?
Zaion?
I don't actually know much about the two of them after their graduation, there are a lot of shitposts about Zaion though. How are they doing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>60751771
yeah, I bet those fragile westerners were too weak to even lick the underside of manager-chan's chair when ordered

[Anonymous No.]

>>60751452
Everyone leaving holo is also happier afterwards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60752944
Exactly. For some reason they thought they'd be treated differently from regular employees just because they're not Japanese. Maybe don't apply to a Japanese company if you're not ready to get fucked in the ass 24/7, but of course everyone thinks they're special and it won't happen to them. I'm glad that retirement homes like vshojo exist to set things right and make an example out of them, so that others think twice before joining a corporation that will break them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60741420
This receipt? >>60743312

[Anonymous No.]

>>60746314
Here's my evidence: They let her stream it and kept the VOD available.
Where's your evidence for your claims?

[Anonymous No.]

>>60752978
>niji treats their livers badly
>b-but what about hololive?
Tribalchama...

[Anonymous No.]

>>60752705
Ex-Yugo actually announcing his 3d for next month when noctyx, luxiem and ethyria still have no 3d

[Anonymous No.]

>>60738171
>>60738311
One post, ah-hah-hah...
Two posts, ah-hah-hah...
Three posts, ah-hah-hah!
Three posts until a mindbroken anon brought up hololive out of nowhere! Three!

[Anonymous No.]

>>60754009
Is hololive not a Japanese corporate entertainment company? >>60751771

[Anonymous No.]

>>60754245
So are other vtuber companies, and the post you replied to didn't mention "Japanese" as a factor. But you just had to fuel the shitty tribal war that is ruining this board, didn't you?

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder how many negative posts are from nijien staff, now they will be forced to do their job, preposterous!

[Anonymous No.]

>>60747373
Tara's own words:
>Wait, what do you mean, "how can I help?" It's my project.
>It was awesome! I was like "Whoa, you wanna help me?"
>And yeah, basically, my manager's like "would we need to bring in someone for production? What does the marketing look like?" And I'm like, "what do you mean 'marketing?' You wanna market, just, a silly little project I'm doing? That's awesome!"

Anonymous, it really doesn't get more clear than this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60754441
How are you not being tribal by shitting on nijisanji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>60755849
At this point shitting on Nijisanji isn't even being tribal anymore, it's just being normal

[Anonymous No.]

>>60755893
How is bringing up holo as being the same being tribal?

[Anonymous No.]

>>60756055
My point is that Niji is so bad that any decent human being would be able to find faults in that organization and shit on it, even if that person is not a holofag

[Anonymous No.]

>>60756141
Why are you mad about hololive being brought up and calling it "tribal"?