Suisei is based goddess!

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIFQdrxSOGg

[Anonymous No.]

>"Make sure to learn English so when you collab with Mori she can understand what you're saying"
Based EN Managers

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033230
通ってない does not mean “I don’t care.”

[Anonymous No.]

What a cunt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033346
>>6033230
>>6033308
Unacceptable. This is why she'll always be way behind the EN girls and Coco. Even Marine is leagues above her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033387
>t. baiter

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033308
naruhodo

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033230
fucking shitty translation. you should kill yourself

for instance shes saying まだ通ってない " i have yet to take english lessons" but you chink insect translated it as " i dont care".

why do you low iq chinks and eops even try to translate. you are a garbage person. stay in your autistic neet room and do nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033343
Then what does it mean?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033230
Nyahallo

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033230
I wonder if JP's are pressured by management to use English more often as to keep their kaigai audience

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033230
two faced I see
hatesex it is

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033490
If true, strong agree, strong agree.

OP, please take the gensokyo express post haste.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033230
Fuck the English language. All my homies hate the English language.

[Anonymous No.]

FUCK ALL EOPs
That is all.

[Anonymous No.]

I think there's too much focus on translator being trash that should go and suck niggers dicks instead of translating and not enough focus on EnMa being a bitch that suggest jp chuubas to learn english. Why won't she ask EN girls to learn japanese instead?

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>>6039521
because EN is the most important language in the world? JP is only talked in japan? while a lot of countries in the world teach english in school and the majority of good works demand having a decent second language, and this most of the time is english.
Also cause probably none of the EN were teached JP in school to at least have some basis on the language and on the contrary in japan the second language to learn is english?
i wonder why JP girls need to learn english more than EN need to learn japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033537
"I'm hungry for cock"

[Anonymous No.]

>>6039521
Enma said that if Suisei learns English, she could take part in more projects, which is objectively true. There are more opportunities for collabs, sponsorships, communication with fans, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6039521
There are currently 3/5 EN girls that can speak Japanese, and only 1/23 JP girls that can speak English. All Enma is asking is a little give and take.

You want EN girls to collab or your channel to entertain your audience? Fine, then be prepared to do the same. So far, only Kiara has actually asked for JPs to come to her channel, the rest are fine without them.

[Anonymous No.]

They all should. The money is in America. If they're not stupid they will pander to as many audiences as they can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6043025
1/28, sorry

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033308
Sasuga JChad

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033343
>通ってない
it means whatever

[Anonymous No.]

>>6043025
1/31 sorry

[Anonymous No.]

>>6043025
3? Kiara, Ina and?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033387
Based Suisei doesn't need English. Wanting Japanese vtubers to speak English is retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033490

she didn't say まだ, she said まっ,
something like 'well' as in 'well, I didn't go there'. As for 通ってない, I don't think i fully understand the meaning of its use here, it means 'to pass through', so her sentence literally translates to 'Well, didn't pass through'. does it mean she's not convinced? It didn't pass through to her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6043510
Don't know who he's talking about, Mori only knows how to say naruhodone outside of scripted songs

[Anonymous No.]

>>6043510
Calli

[Anonymous No.]

>>6043690
I think she means "the advice didn't get through", as in she didn't take it to heart. She mentioned afterwards that she's been very busy, so she hasn't had time to do eigo reps.

[Anonymous No.]

you can report this clip directly to cover if you feel like its out of context or focuses on making suisei look like a bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033230
Suisei already has good western appeal despite only speaking Japanese. Being English fluent would make her unstoppable. World domination.

[Anonymous No.]

Suisei would do well to learn English. Her singing is already behind Risu and Gura in sheer talent. She has nothing else really going for her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6044086
Or at least sing Maroon 5 songs better.
https://youtu.be/JnaHfESk1os

[Anonymous No.]

>>6044191
C'mon, OP went to the trouble of mistranslating a clip in order to bait. You can do better than this surely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6043905
naruhodo

[Anonymous No.]

>>6044436
That’s more than Suisei can manage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6043905
sure thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>6039521
because Japan is an island while English is spoken all across the world. They want to expand their market not shrink it.

[Anonymous No.]

this can't be happening EOP bros

[Anonymous No.]

>>6042085
BASED

[Anonymous No.]

>>6043025
which jp can speak english now that coco is gone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033230
>nye ga
>urusai nye ga

[Anonymous No.]

>>6046375

[Anonymous No.]

>>6046375
hachama

[Anonymous No.]

>>6046375
Aki is fluent in English isn't she?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6046375
Miko

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>>6046718
nope. No JP is fluent in english. (Coco was american) and Haato has terrible english.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6046650
haachama's attempts at english are almost completely unintelligible

[Anonymous No.]

>>6046650
?? HAHAHAHA her english is worse than Calli's japanese. And Calli's japanese is a joke

[Anonymous No.]

>>6046875
>>6046849
>>6046843
You fell for the trap. Her English is fine - she is bad on purpose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6046843
Haato has great english she lived in Australia for several years. She deliberately plays up the engrish for the camera

[Anonymous No.]

Enma was pretty clearly talking about business projects like songs and stuff, not necessarily colalbs with EN
On a side note, i was surprised that Suisei has over 30% Eop watchers, with no understanding of the language, rarely any live translators and very little non japanese interaction.
She held on to that too, way more than Miko, who everyone loves here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033387
holy based cometchad

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047030
I feel they're mostly there for her music. Looked at chat once during a singing stream and most of it were ppl asking her to sing shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047221
I mostly see en comments during talk streams but i also don't check chat during singing streams so probably just missed it
... why would they be writing in english what songs they want if they know she can't read it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047030
>i was surprised that Suisei has over 30% Eop watchers
I think you have your percentage wrong. Maybe something like 20%, which is still big. As the reason why she has so many in comparison to others
Singer - singing transcends languages
Charismatic - even if you don't understand her you can gauge her feelings easily and knows how to entertain
Clips - a lot of clips are relatively famous, even a short documentary was made telling her story with over 200k views and works as an introduction to her and anyone who wants to watch her. The origin of the psychopath meme has 1M views also

[Anonymous No.]

>>6046901
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH sure whatever makes you happy

[Anonymous No.]

>>6046938
I know a chink that has lived in my country for 20 years and she doesn't speak the language at fucking all. Bad argument. Also she isn't faking, she just has a smooth brian. Like Calli

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033387
Based. The side branches should learn japanese instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6046938
yeah im sure she intentionally speaks engrish in all of her songs just to meme

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033387
she's just based. you just feel insecure when you see how strong willed she is

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033230
>Make sure to study English for a market you're not involved in so we can get those EN bucks
This is what they're saying and you should be disgusted.

[Anonymous No.]

Aki has good English potential, but her usage seems to have tailed off since the start of the year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033230
>asking them to speak more english
>not asking EN to speak more Japanese
wtf

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047394
Not that anon, but he was likely sourcing from this image, which actually shows Suisei at 37% non-JP audience. Also keep in mind that this was before collabs with HoloEN, the English duolingo streams and the "Hi Honey" meme.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047653
Let me play Devil's advocate. Calli Ame and Gura are obviously not capable of learning another language. Fuck Calli has been in Japan for years and has done less progress than most adults do in 6 months

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047858
Why the fuck do russians like botan. Is it really just the fucking adidas+lion imagery? Lions were a strong image for the all western countries, and adidas is german. I don't get it

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047910
Calli has literally the worst language skills in any language when we only count those that can use the language in question to some degree.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047858
yeah, i was referencing this and the one from the month before which had a similar % for Suisei.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047965
Yes. It is just that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047653
No reason to ask superior sounding women to speak that garbled slant tongue

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047965
A lot of it is the image, but also her love of FPS games plays well with Russians. Apparently she has some Russian clippers, which creates a positive feedback loop by introducing more Russian viewers to her content.

[Anonymous No.]

It's probably true she has no time. Plus the only reason to learn is to maybe have an EN audience which she probably doesn't need.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047965
Addidas lion, FPS Tarista, that's how it started, yes, and then they just kept enjoying her streams, she got more Ru translated clips, many with over 100k views, so they kept coming.
She has live Ru translators and post Ru timestampers in the comments so it's pretty easy for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033230
If I were EnMa, I would just shrug and tell her to do whatever she wants. Knowing English would've let her expand worldwide, and maybe even top the charts like Mori. There would also be a ton of opportunities for collabs and sponsorships, not to mention the audience expanding tenfold.
The advice is very decent, but she's free to refuse it if she wants to, as long as there would be no complaints later down the line.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6039521
Who says she didn't?

[Anonymous No.]

Suisei lost interest in learning English because she realized Calliope "5%" Mori doesn't give a fuck about her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047910
Ame could if she cared, and Gura has been trying apparently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047653
Why not both?

[Anonymous No.]

Suisei is already able to collab with the one EN she's interested in and has garnered a solid western interest in her content without having to speak any English, she doesn't really have any incentive to learn it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047653
English is one of the easiest languages to learn, while Japanese is one of the most difficult to learn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6048357
EOP viewerbase does nothing substantial but inflate numbers. The Japanese viewership is more willing to put their hard earned money on the line for superchats or merchandise. In contrast pandering to mutts just invites greyfags shitting up your chat

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>>6048445
https://youtu.be/yhw7zYVPhxc?t=357

>Gushes about producing Getcha with Mori and talks about doing karaoke and going out to dinner with her for nearly 10 minutes
Yeah, sure seems that way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047456
i am happy

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047456
>>6046938
Reps, retardchama

[Anonymous No.]

>>6048320
>>6048277
>>6048091
post the RU comments

[Anonymous No.]

You know I never really thought about it until this thread but yeah none of the jp girls know enough english to speak it. The closest is maybe Korone. I think a few could read and write in a slower environment though. In that way it was pretty impressive to see Coco just easily go in and out of both languages while speaking. Ina, Kiara, and Mori can too I guess. Even most of ID are bilingual. So what the hell?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6048845
The entire entertainment industry is nothing substantial but number inflation, the important part is when the number in question is your bank account. I'm sure Suisei is not starving or anything, but Mori makes around 13 million yen to Suisei's 3 million (according to Playboard), and that's just superchats, I'm sure Mori gets a lot of nice royalties from her music topping the iTunes charts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6048994
Just read the comments from her last stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047858
>towa

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047858
what made towa 50% EN? Is she just that small that the EN swarm makes up more?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6043922
That's an excuse though, because even if she did have time she would not do her eigo reps. But she can at least escape for now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6046938
I love haachama engrish.
https://files.catbox.moe/p87r43.mp4

[Anonymous No.]

>>6049520
The yab and saviorfags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6049520
>what made towa 50% EN?
Saviorfags

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEP2utHYZ2s
this is a classic

[Anonymous No.]

>>6050014
>>6049923
Do you mean the crying on coco's graduation? Really?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047858
>Botan
cyka blyat

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047858
>Botan
Based.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6049520
it counts every towa.... as EN

[Anonymous No.]

>>6050214
Are you really this new?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047858
People share this image all the time, but the methodology and timing to collect this was such trash.

It's just like most Reddit infographics where someone who doesn't really have an actual background in data collection or validation slapped together an informal, entirely unscientific method and then everyone treats it like it's gospel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6050344
Towa might be the only holo girl I know absolutely nothing about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6050433
She’s very promiscuous and very autistic.
All in all, a real stinker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6050214
Please tell me this is bait...

[Anonymous No.]

>>6049294
Japanese to English (and vice versa) is one of the most difficult language learning processes out there, with only a very small handful of other major languages being considered more difficult to learn.

I see estimates for going from no knowledge to actually learning proper Japanese as an English speaker as taking a good 4-5 years, and about the same for the reverse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6050374
even some basic filters would probably clean it up a bit, Coco only being at 22% is bullshit and it's obviously counting every emote and 草 message as japanese when those and single word english messages from japs should be ignored

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033387
based, it's delusional to think these girls have the free time to seriously learn English to fluency on top of all the time they already spend on hololive
If you love Suisei, learn Japanese, filthy EOPs

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047858
>based on comments
whoa, who cares

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047858
That chart was made in January and using the chat's messages as data, if I remember correctly. She was playing GTA V and mimicking english lines in the game, you can guess why she had so many english messages in that month. The real number is probably closer to 15-20%. The hi honey meme and duolingo probably boosted her closer to 20%

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033387
EOP's are the guest in the house of hololive, it's on them to learn japanese not the other way around

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047858
To be fair, it's specious to assume that all the people from US and ID watching her streams are EOP. My IP would count me as US audience in her percentage, but I understand Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>6050817
English speaking sponsors don't give a shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6049748
The grammar was generally acceptable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6050214
You're cute anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6050214

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033230
>english translation is ESL-tier
Why do you do this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033387

Suisei got to where she is without knowing English, I don't think she has to learn it to get any further. Her dreams don't really include overseas appeal, but she's appreciative for what she gets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6048950
>for nearly 10 minutes
Sorry anon, this is /vt/
Do you think you could condense that down into a 10 second streamable link for me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6051321
I'll do you a greentext summary, will that do?

>Lots of gushing over Mori, both wanted to do it since year start but were busy until now
>Sui initiated and found Getcha and thought that was the perfect song for them
>The song has been pitched down because it was too high for both of them. Talking about how they have a "cool air" and sang it a bit more like "cool girls"
>Gushing about how good Mori's part was, they recorded separately, Sui first, Mori actually did some mixing herself like corrections and adding reverbs, that sped up the MV process too
>Sui has not met Mori irl, but Mori proposed to go eat yakiniku together, but it's gonna be after the state of emergency
>She wants to sing more songs with Mori in the future and collab more with her, hyped as fuck at the idea of a karaoke collab together.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6051406
>more than 2 lines

[Anonymous No.]

>>6048445

What's the 5% meme about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6051477
>Suisei likes Mori
>Mori and Suisei want to do more stuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>6046901
I think she hams it up, but I also don't know about fine. She does know enough that she can Collab competently with EN though, and if she ever comes back, I'd like to see it. She might make syntax errors and not have an extensive vocabulary, but she can hold a conversation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6050865
I believe that's by live chat message language instead of IP location

[Anonymous No.]

>>6050930
>English speaking sponsors
Like what? Crunchyroll?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6051589
a big part of her "degradation" is playing it up, she has lost a bit since leaving australia with her manager having a personal mission to keep her in the JP bubble for some reason. Hopefully she voice chats with EN behind the scenes at least a little to keep her semi-fluent until that manager is gone

[Anonymous No.]

>>6051589
>she can hold a conversation

[Anonymous No.]

>>6052033
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6IZpcpA90I

[Anonymous No.]

>>6050374
Suisei in particular has five or so English-speaking superfans who sometimes seem to be responsible of 20% of all the comments on her chat. Sure there are probably a couple of JOPs as chatty as them and the English comments just stand out more, but still.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6051562
https://streamable.com/9cbgcr

[Anonymous No.]

>>6051589
>She does know enough that she can Collab competently with EN though
So did she just ignore/misunderstand Ame's questions/conversation for good entertainment?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6052225

I really, really don't like her. Was she even popular before Hololive? I've seen clips of some shows of hers, but again I think her solo music fucking terrible so I can't imagine people actually wanting to see her in person even if it is Japan and don't really know what good rap is

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047910
Gura is Japanese you retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6052486
This is bait, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6052486
big if true

[Anonymous No.]

>>6051321
>I have come to play

[Anonymous No.]

>>6050625
>>6043611
>>6047065
>>6047515
>>6047568
>>6050817
>>6051315
The managers are right, you can literally have every single japanese man, woman and child be a gachikoi for suisei, and it wouldn't compare to any idol that can speak english, spanish or chinese.

It's a monetary decision, there is a reason why no japanese idols make it out of japan, while k-pop is insanely popular over here in the west

By all means, don't feel compelled to speak a language if you don't want to, but japanese is one of the most insignificant languages in the world as a singer.
If singing is your goal, being JOP is one of the worst things you can be, you'll never get off the island.
There have been a lot of great singers in japan over the years that live poor in their middle age due to vast difference in being a successful singer in Japan vs wide spoken language singers.

Saying Suisei is based for disregarding this fact, means that all of you want Suisei to suffer in her middleage as an irrelevant and poor nobody.
Such is the life of a singer.

[Anonymous No.]

>"Otsumachi! See you next again, have a nice day!"
>Hoshimachi Suisei ends another stream
>"It's kind of painful to intentionally butcher my English like that, but I can't afford to let anyone knows how good my English actually is" she thinks to herself as she stretches her arms, trying to relax her muscles
>She closes her OBS and starts her browser to open a certain site
>"Still joking about Anemachi not being real, huh? Well, I was the one who started that narrative"
>"The best way to lie is telling the truth and acting like it's a joke after all"
>She giggles, happy that once again, everything goes according to her plan just like how she orchestrated the whole INNK incident
>"Now, time to continue my project. I'll grab my can of coffee first"
>She closes her browser, gets up from her chair, and begins searching for a can of coffee that she bought yesterday
>"Ah, there it is"
>She finds it lying around near her countless unorganized trophies and certificates
>"Seeing these makes me remember that I'm actually a genius" she said to herself, showing her narcissistic side
>She sits back on her chair, opens her can of coffee, and starts a certain program
>A MACHINE - ANEMACHI.EXE
>"I wonder how many people realize that "Anemachi" is just an anagram of "A machine". Most vtuber fans are simpletons so I doubt they get even a simple thing like that"
>"Let's do a little test first"
>She clicks a button with the word "Begin"
>"Initializing..."
>"Complete!"
>A virtual woman with a pink hair appears
>"Hello, Sui-chan!"
>She hears a really familiar voice, none other than her own voice
>"Hello onee-chan!" she answered
>"How was your day Sui-chan?"
>"I just finished streaming, I'm happy that I got a lot of new members and superchats today!"
>"Really? I'm glad to hear that!"
>"Thanks onee-chan, see you again!"
>"See you!"
>She closes the program
>"Perfect, she can do a really basic conversation for now. But, there are still so much works to do"
>As she drinks her last drop of coffee, she begins yet another sleepless night of programming her unfinished AI
>"They say a person has two deaths, when their body dies and when somebody says their name for the last time. One day, this "Hoshimachi Suisei" will graduate, but I will make sure that my name will be remembered for eternity. This AI, "Anemachi" will be my eternal successor as the perfect Idol Vtuber"
>"Hoshimachi Suisei will live on forever

[Anonymous No.]

>>6053004

What about every Western artist that's huge in Japan? Does Billy Eyelash have to learn Japanese to sell out stadiums in Tokyo? Does Justin Bieber?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047858
Twarb....

[Anonymous No.]

>>6051315
Overseas cannot grant her the Budokan or Yokohama arena, and that is the unfortunate truth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6053004

EN was a mistake

[Anonymous No.]

>>6054085
Fuck you. Why you do you hurt me like that? I want to die

[Anonymous No.]

>>6053736
ogey

[Anonymous No.]

>>6053736
the perfect rrat

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047910
Ame knows Spanish and Gura knows French.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6054563
That being said, overseas coin spends just as well in funding Suisei's hunt for her next original song, and overseas eyes does help improve her watch time for the advertisers. There are things we do that can help as EN Hoshiyomis even if we can't fill up arenas for her. Have you done your Blue Rose reps today, anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6039521
>>6042595
>aaAAaAAAAA must rage about ina's manager like she has tons of control over everything aAaAaAAAAa
how do retards like you remember to breathe.
>>6048963
wasting your time. nu-haatons that only took an interest due to the schizochama arc aren't capable of doing their reps or anything other than regurgitating memes.
>>6049636
>even if she did have time she would not
where are the proofs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6055291
Every goddamn day

[Anonymous No.]

I know Suisei said her mom is an english teacher but do we know how proficient mama is at it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6053004
meds

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033230
based suisei making fun of the gajin accent
when do I get rid of mine

[Anonymous No.]

>>6055774
We haven't heard her speaking, but from Suisei's description she's native-level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6050625
YWNBJ

[Anonymous No.]

>>6048357
>>6049295
Are you aware that Suisei's song also top the charts on iTunes, Amazon, Ototoy, Mora, Oricon, and Billboard? She even charts on Oricon for two days straight while Mori only one day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033230
MORI SHOULD LEARN JAPANESE.

[Anonymous No.]

Sui is a cunt

[Anonymous No.]

Haaton’s are fucking delusional

[Anonymous No.]

>>6053004
Sui want to be idol
Not singer

[Anonymous No.]

>>6043025
b-b-but... muh EOP boogeyman is ruining my 健康的なアイドル

[Anonymous No.]

>>6037830
then don't use it, faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047456
Don't mind that anon. His brain is all Haachamachama

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033230
Ilove her moar

[Anonymous No.]

EOPs eternally BTFO!
Just learn Japanese you faggots its not that hard.
That way you can actually enjoy the real hololive and not deal with the EN/ID abominations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6053004
Basing what you think as success on how well know she is abroad is an EOP mentality. Keep crying that you don't know japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6053004
Suisei will be happy and fulfilled in her middle age because she'll be raising children with me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6050506
I never watch Towa, but now I want to know specifics. Care to share something supporting your claims?

[Anonymous No.]

The Manager should have told her to speak simple japanese so Mori can understand it but noo even that is too hard for her after 10 months of her debut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033387
>>6033230

Which manager said this shit? I'm actually embarassed to be an EN speaker. Holy fuck. Don't fucking do this. asgdaiodgsodtbasdo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6060454
Fuck it. I'll spoonfeed you.

I can't remember the full details and I'm too lazy to try and find them, but I male voice was heard in one of her early streams and she made an unconvincing excuse (even though it was obviously her boyfriend). She had to take a break and come back after an official apology - but the damage was done and JP bros abandoned her in droves. The higher EN percentage is likely just a lower JP percentage. Towa is an example of what happens when you yab with the Nihongoniki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6063104
Thanks. Given peoples' reaction, I was expecting her to have college gangbang type nudes circulating or something. Meh. Sounds like an overreaction from the fans, but these girls are getting paid handsomely enough to sell a fantasy that they really should keep their legs shut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6063780
Her reaction after she came back and people asked whos voice that was she said a hololive staff so hololive had to act and say that no staff members are in voicechats. After that she apologized for making up a lie and had to took a break. The japanese never forgave her for lying and most left her, the saviourfags still hold on to her which is why 50% in the chat is english.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6063104
why are vtuber viewers so fragile?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6052350
>was she even popular before hololive
She was at the level of one Dj of one small nip club popularity

[Anonymous No.]

>>6065217
According to nips the problem wasnt the male voice. But the fact that she quickly lied to her fans saying it was a Manager (that would be actually worse since wtf do a manager in a talent house at night)

[Poka the Hololive Historian No.]

>>6033230
STACY puts Becky in her place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6065090
Thanks. I just subbed to her.

[Anonymous No.]

Suishit and her coomers kys

[Anonymous No.]

Fake and unbased

[Anonymous No.]

>>6053736
s-sugoi

[Anonymous No.]

>>6065090
every other girl would have done the same

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033230
My RRAT is that Suisei's latest sales results for Ghost and Blue Rose has come in and she realizes just how many EOPs bought her music and increased her revenue beyond expectations. Considering Suisei has to worry about $$$ since Cover insist their talents have to self-finance this song, she's probing with her JOP fanbase about whether to commit some of her scarce time to doing more English reps, since she doesn't know if the EN$$$ from VPN buys on Ototoy or Itune purchases will remain loyal to her. .

Remember, Suisei always moves very carefully when making changes to her channel, especially the reactions of her longer term followers and members.

Thank you for listening to my essay post RRAT. Rate the believability of this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033537
‘I am not currently attending (English courses)’
Because she doesn’t have time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6067972
In all honesty, it's very likely all these recordings are meant to build up to the album release she promised in Beyond the Stage. She's on course for seven to eight originals by the time August is over, nine if you count the TakaInu release, ten if you count Now on Music Space, and eleven if Pieces somehow is freed. She's anywhere between 1-5 more original songs from getting out her full original album.

Between recordings, training, album promotion, and destress time to catch up on anime while resting her throat and streaming, it's probably hard for her to actually make any serious time commitments to English study.

Of course, the context here was Suisei asking why she didn't get some opportunities, and ENMA more or less telling her she needed to do her English reps if she wants those opportunities.

[Anonymous No.]

cans someone explain why her name is hosimati and hoshimachi

[Anonymous No.]

>>6068332
She spelled the ch as t instead, so it's stuck as Hoshimati, even if it's pronounced as Hoshimachi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6067630
Based on the comments she picked out it seems like the JP niki are on board with it? They seem to want her to go global. Then again some people say the Japs are seething at the EN fags infesting the chats now so who knows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6068332
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanization_of_Japanese#Differences_among_romanizations

[Anonymous No.]

>>6068332
They sometimes romanize chi as ti, you'll see it when they chat in Minecraft when they say "Hello Mikoti" and stuff. Shame with "shi" and "si". It's because there's no si sound in Japanese so they pronounce si as shi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6068489
She's not picking out EOP comments for one, so either that's bilinguals from the EN end of her fanbase, or it reflects the consensus of JP members - who by the way do not necessarily represent the opinions of JPs outside her membership base. It won't surprise me this topic crops up in a member's stream sometime from now so she get's a clearer idea where her members stand here.


That being said, I am confident that if not for Suisei having Kagai Nikki attention, she's at approximate domestic parity with Inui Toko in terms of fanbase size.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6068489
EOPS in Suisei's chats either tend to be members dropping emote spams, or ninjas only popping up when they are addressed, or to spam Kusa when something funny happens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047965
She literally has her stream rules translated to Russian.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6044191
She has a wide network of producers who want to work with her and promote her material. How many producers besides SoundWeebJay does Risu have? Has anyone asked for Gura by name in the Western composition scenes?

Also, Gura refuses to sing a rock or rap song to save her life, Risu is too inactive to show she actually wants to sing and not just be a seiyuu (oh by the way seiyuus in JP are dime a dozen, she'd have very little chances of breaking through there)

[Anonymous No.]

>>6068549
is it them or is it the keyboard auto doing it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6068332
It's 星街 or ほしまち
the romaji is just a representation in latin script, they don't actually pronounce them like you do

[Anonymous No.]

>>6068881

I think there are alot of people here who don't quite realize that for a vocalist like Suisei who is coming in as an outsider, the patronage of music producers is quite central to their career. If they judge she is good enough to be pushed and is a worthwhile financial prospect to invest in and work with, she would be pushed, and she would be polished. InuTaku just saturated Japanese terrestial radio with her singing voice recently. If she doesn't get their attention, getting then she isn't going to get pushed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6068881
I think there are alot of people here who don't quite realize that for a vocalist like Suisei who is coming in as an outsider, the patronage of music producers is quite central to their career. If they judge she is good enough to be pushed and is a worthwhile financial prospect to invest in and work with, she would be pushed, and she would be polished. InuTaku just saturated Japanese terrestial radio with her singing voice recently. If she doesn't get their attention, then she isn't going to get pushed.

[Anonymous No.]

Thanks for giving me another agendaposting clipfag to filter out
Clipfags deserve the rope

[Anonymous No.]

>>6052486
I wonder if there are people out there who honestly believe this

[Anonymous No.]

>>6071856
There's alot of false flagging and shitpost takes here, so I doubt it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6067972
This. Fuck EOPS making false translations

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033387
I'm seeing some double standards here. Susei is based for not wanting to learn English, but Ollie is also based for refusing to stream in Indonesia despite being part of Hololive ID?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6074633
Yeah no, you should watch that Ollie clip.
She's not based because she doesn't want to stream in Indonesian, people are loving her for calling out spammers who just write "Ughh, me no speaku inglesh, speak basa only".

[Anonymous No.]

>>6074872
She's particularly based not just for calling them out, but for going on a long venting rant about how much of a loser they are. It's an enjoyable watch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6039521
why ask anyone to learn a dying language?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033230
>suisei doesnt do her reps
BASED!!!
>i dont do my reps
REEEE STUPID EOP KILL YOURSELF
Why are you all like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6074633
They're based for doing what they want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6075092
Suisei is cute and Japanese, you are neither.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6075092
>Selectively paraphrase things to match your narrative
>Pretend to get upset
Why are you all like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6063104
She was already competing for the lowest subbed/viewed 4th gen with Luna even before the yab. Didnt help that she had another job when initially streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6037921
>implying your one semester of Japanese makes you fluent
>implying 99% of "muh EOP" faggots aren't EOP's themselves

[Anonymous No.]

>>6046375
Luna's nanolish are too native.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6037921
As EOP, agree. Expecting a vtuber to learn your language just to understand you is asinine. Want to watch an English stream? Watch HoloEN, or NijiEN, or HoloID, or whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047965
guns

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033230
Clippers were a mistake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6077130
Clippers who aren't fluent in both the source or target languages were a mistake

[Anonymous No.]

>>6077275
It's one thing when they aren't fluent in both, it's quite another when they aren't fluent in either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6047910
Calli probably lives in one of those Gaijin Bubbles. Because there's no way she have lived longer in Japan than Kiara and her Japanese's still below entry level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6077130
The real issue is, as always, the EOPs

[Anonymous No.]

>>6048518
Ame said in her last stream that she's looking for a JP teacher

[Anonymous No.]

>>6076718
Same, that being said I don't want to see her throwing up another duolingo stream after saying this, then again I guess the redditors kinda deserve to get grifted at this point

[Anonymous No.]

>>6077961
Nvm I guess it's mistranslated

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033230
>You don't need to learn english, everyone else should learn japanese
BASED hoshiyomi

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033230
>already privated
One bad translation gone, one less turd in the sea of shit. The rest remains and you will keep feeding on it, making threads and giving birth to rats to spread disease and death. Most people won't even realize that the translation was wrong and will continue to believe that Suisei doesn't care. In few weeks you will still be able to find posts about it, and new people getting infected. And so it goes.
This is why we're slaves. No thought remains in this lower world, only action and reaction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6081148
Same

[Anonymous No.]

>>6043510
Haachama

[Anonymous No.]

He took the video down?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084961
It got posted to reddit and people were coming over shitting on him, so he took it down and uploaded an apology video. Seems like he wasn't malicious, just a bad translator.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6046875
T. Didnt watch her collab with her sister

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084961
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcNdoOH9n-A

[Anonymous No.]

>>6069067
them, afaik most japanese use basically the same keyboard layout as us for japanese too, not single keys for kana, but type it out like we would romaji, depending on what mode you are in, it comes out as japanese or just normally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6075165
Why are zoomers like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>6052350
She's cool from JP perspective because they have a pretty strict/structured society. But let's be real, do you really expect Helolive to pick up an amateur thug rapper making mumble raps about street life? I'm surprised Twitter mob hasn't tried to cancel her for cultural appropriation

[Anonymous No.]

>>6033230
Mistranslation spreading :DDDDD

[Anonymous No.]

>>6053004
Bigger audiences and venue isn't always better, you start getting targeted by toxic groups and individuals. None of the Holo talents are ready for YT drama/shit monetizers and the Twitter hate mob who will doxx and harass them irl

[Anonymous No.]

>>6085182
This is a key are where reddit Holo fans really let their stupidity shine, trying to gatekeep clippers when none of them would even know about Hololive without the clippers, both good and bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6087256
The standards were lower back then, people know better now. The same thing happened with anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>6086363
SEAniggerchama got BTFO kek

[Anonymous No.]

>this faggot used google translate

[Anonymous No.]

>>6096322
same anon here, before you fall it fake-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcNdoOH9n-A

[Anonymous No.]

>>6096322
Jesus. If you are going to use MTL without checking it at least use deepl. Though what he put in there (first line in my SS, second/third are the correct spelling) isn't even correct so it wouldn't be surprising he got garbage anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>Nigger. Shut up nigger.
>I don't care.
HOLY FUCKING BASED
she can't keep getting away with it