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59549595 No.59549595 [Reply] [Original]

>take the indie pill bro
>take the small corpo pill bro
No thanks faggots, HOLOLIVE ONLY
Death to NON HOLOLIVE VUTUBING

>> No.59549650

k

>> No.59549691

death to corpos

>> No.59549731

>>59549595
That's a shame Athena was cool.
She did some song submissions for Haachama.
She also had her Athena character before joining a corpo, so I wonder if she gets to keep it.

>> No.59549736

>>59549595
Based

>> No.59549947

>western small corpo timeline is either watch a mainlander chinese grooming club or a pure blood jew living in tel aviv tax fraud company if you want non drama outside hololive
You know it's fucked up when the Chinks and the Jews are unironically the good guys and the only hope for the non hololice scene.

>> No.59550077

>>59549595
What the fucking fuck

>> No.59550149

>>59549595
Shocked Pikachu Face

>> No.59550169

>>59549947
>pippa connect
>biweekly donothon: the company
>only hope
no

>> No.59550199

>>59549595
Nah.

>> No.59550399

>>59549595
groomerbros why is this hag exposing us like that... I just wanted to have my harem of underage, boyfriendless (forced) anime e-girls...

>> No.59550622

>>59549595
holodrones faggot unicorns should die, not all small corpos are like this Jason is just a stupid insane faggot with too much money on his hands, also Azuri is a groomer enabler

>> No.59550760
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>>59550622
>Hololive
>CGDCT
>Non Hololive
>total drama behind every corner

>> No.59550878

>>59549595
Im not reading all that lol also who?

>> No.59550951

>>59549595
If you took the AkioAir pill anytime after Fen's graduation, you deserve to get burned.

>> No.59550970

>>59550622
DELUSIONAL

>> No.59551073

>>59550760
>Gura
she doesn't stream, if you want CGDCT go to PixelLink, they actually stream and are a good corpo

>> No.59551149
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59551149

>>59551073
>they are a good corpo i swear
>time skip 2 months
>"And here is my tweetlong about how i was abused by _____"

>> No.59551169

>>59550622
Azuri did nothing wrong

But good small corpos are still great. Unitychads like Pixel, Vreverie and V&U are simply a better experience.

>> No.59551179

>>59549595
>Tsunderia
>Cyberlive
>WACTOR
>MyHoloTV
>Now AkioAir
Why does this keep happening, small corpo bros? I'm worried for the future of my small corpo oshi too...

>> No.59551233

>>59551179
Just pay attention to how she talks about her life and how much she streams. If she's pulling a Myth-tier amount of streams, start to get worried.

>> No.59551336

>>59549595
I haven't watched her in a good long while, but what about the coolcute dragon? Has she said anything?

>> No.59551418

>>59551179
>>Tsunderia
the only thing bad that happened here was just full fuck retards management and the saddest shit about it was that management wasn't even evil, just fucking retards
>>Cyberlive
Retards that got took over by actual bad people from within
>>WACTOR
full out bad people in charge
>>MyHoloTV
Just muslims being radical muslims that can't help themself but pushing away haram talents, but they somewhat still end relationships in amicable ways
>>AkioAir
Exposed groomer pedophile CEO lol

>> No.59551454
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59551454

>>59551179
The only suspect we have is this unknown figure who has been seen leaving the buildings of all of those companies mere hours or minutes before the implosions.

>> No.59551580

>>59549947
unironically watch vreverie

>> No.59551591

You fags just didn't do enough research before picking a corpo.
I'm still enjoying my small corpo that basically drama free.

>> No.59551619

>>59551591
Based, same.

>> No.59551670

>Younger girl gets hired
>Roastie begins seething
Many such cases

>> No.59551740

>>59549595
>”We aren’t Hololive”
Yeah I can fucking see that now Lmao

>> No.59551809

>>59550622
>holodrones faggot unicorns should die
funny how unicorn prominence and how peaceful the vtubers content and the fanbase is correlate strongly throughout vtuber history

>> No.59551853

>>59551591
>drama free small corpo
doesn't exist or you didn't do enough research

>> No.59551892

>>59551169
>like Pixel, Vreverie and V&U are simply a better experience.
A man of my own heart, this are the only girls I actually watch, these are the small corpo players right now.

>> No.59551899

>>59549595
Go back to red dit.

>> No.59551921

>>59551454
Lemon whore is actually fishman's attack hound, she goes around destroying corpos

>> No.59551934

funny how you all say this after Bae just had a panic attack on stream because of the massive workload Hololive is making her do

>> No.59552025

>>59549595
faggots like you are the reason the hololive fandom on this board is trash.
100% chance you anti'd several hololive chuubas too.

>> No.59552035

>>59551934
clip? spoonfeed me

>> No.59552078

>>59551934
>Massive workload
More like scared people will not liking it after she invited Homostars to her 3D showcase.

>> No.59552077
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59552077

>>59551934
Thats on bae, but as a runt with asian parents she needs to work her ass off

>> No.59552218

>>59551934
Playing video game 2 hours a day isn't work

>> No.59552235
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59552235

>>59552025
But that company on the OP was supposed to be the anti Hololive company. They literally shilled themselves as that at the start only for their most popular Vtuber (Athy) to be the Holofan who acted like a Holo talent.

>> No.59552263

>>59549947
on the day one of the phase talents leave and the cracks(that have already formed) start crumbling, you'll see what kind of management phase has and be disappointed too. Just be ready to support your oshi when they have to start on as a new vtuber.
I'll be called a schizo now, but I know some of the suffering the talents there have been put through.
When that day comes, know that the cracks have been there for a long time.

>> No.59552386

>>59552235
Then focus on that and don't declare war on every vtuber outside of holo, most of which do like Hololive.

>> No.59552410

>>59552263
>that have already formed
QRD?

>> No.59552493

>>59552263
2 more weeks

>> No.59552497

>>59552410
nothing but the usual cyberlive seethe, don't mind that troon

>> No.59552523

>>59549595
Retarded OP
Someone make a thread properly addressing this topic, this is fucked up specially considering it's their biggest talent making the statement and they're debuting 2 new members in a few hours, what a shitstorm

>> No.59552564

>>59552410
>>59552263
I would post my evidence but doing so might hurt people I care about.

>> No.59552580

>>59552523
/corpo/ is the thread to talk about this

>> No.59552595

>>59552263
>>59552564
Kill yourself Menace

>> No.59552606

>>59552410
I can't say much because I know the talent I've talked with is breaking whatever NDA they have, but talents have wanted to leave multiple times now, and the CEO is the core of their issues. Their managers seem fine, but the CEO is a total asshole with no respect for who keeps his wallet full.

>> No.59552612

>>59552218
Well it should be, instead of all the other retarded shit they force them to do

>> No.59552663

>>59552606
That's not news and also from a year ago

>> No.59552679

>>59552564
menace, fuck off, you could' get so much out of this if you renounce

>> No.59552681

>>59549595
Is this that company that hired the literal child?

>> No.59552693

For the last time I won't watch reglow or whatever the fuck that new indie group is called.

>> No.59552720

All this bottled up drama and the trigger was Jason hiring a 17 years old

>> No.59552754

>>59551179
Tsunderia is doing great. The chuubas, that is.

>> No.59552786

>>59552681
Cover hired 3 underage btw

>> No.59552792

>>59552606
Yuri still mad they caught her getting money from paypigs through private channels lmao

>> No.59552821
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59552821

Where did it all go so wrong?
Day 1.

>> No.59552922

>>59552663
I don't know what you're referring to as a year ago, but the talents have wanted to leave for about 2 years lmao so yeah true.
>>59552681
the person who responded that isn't me. But I suppose its accurate, I just don't want the to say anything that could get her singled out since the CEO has gotten after the talents before for talking behind his back about wanting to leave. Its literally become a policy at the company now to not form these groups.

>> No.59552943

>>59552606
Even the cat realized she fucked up

>> No.59552944

>>59552786
And?

>> No.59552946

>>59551809
Peaceful now before the human bombs start ticking causing inevitable drama with said vtuber. Remember Rushia? Yeah thought as much.

>> No.59553001

>>59552944
Akio had internal problems but them hiring a 17 years old wasn't one, she is being used as an excuse though

>> No.59553014

>>59552943
>>59552792
Pretty sure her getting fired was deserved, doesn't mean the CEO isn't an asshole to the rest of his talents.

>> No.59553047

>>59552523
Good call

>> No.59553072

>>59553001
Whatever works.

>> No.59553084

>>59551809
Until of course, the vtuber in question interacts with or acknowledges a male in any way shape or form, at which point the unicorns fly into a livid unmedicated rage against her.

>> No.59553085

>>59549595
I've heard of nothing legitimately bad about the CEO of Phase Connect.

>> No.59553137

>>59553085
watch more Lia then

>> No.59553196

>>59553085
He's a chink that's already a sin.

>> No.59553204

>>59553085
His company is only still in business because of the managers he hired, he is completly incapable of managing the merch of his girls

>> No.59553241

>>59553204
muumi saved phase and thats not anywhere near an understatement

>> No.59553257

>>59553085
>https://x.com/h2osakana/status/1707987404244627582?s=20
He is a dramafaggot and a vt sister

>> No.59553261

>>59551809
Chumbuds singlehandedly disprove this
>Gura wants nothing to do with them and refuses to stream
>every thread they have goes to shit because they're constantly bitching about whether or not she's in the right
>the ones who are still loyal to her shitpost against practically every other vtuber
>normalfags know them as an evil toxic fanbase because a few people publicly complained about her not streaming

>> No.59553273

>>59553085
He was kind of very retarded in the first year but now he's handed most of the managing to people actually qualified and spends most of his time playing sokoban in his garage.

>> No.59553304

>>59553257
>He is a dramafaggot and a vt sister
>>59553204
>incapable of managing the merch of his girls
>>59553273
>spends most of his time playing sokoban in his garage.
Like I said, nothing legitimately bad

>> No.59553370

>>59552821
>Our own payment gateway.
fucking lmao.

>> No.59553395

>>59552922
Don't pay this larping retard any mind. If he's mentioning '2 years', the only conceivable people he could be talking about are from Origins. It's no secret that Lia and Tenma have wanted to walk away from Phase a few times in the past before things improved in the company and for their streams.
This is an example of someone attempting to twist public knowledge into 'secrut club!!' knowledge.

>> No.59553400

Hololive is the second most boring talentless rabble of vtubers (the first is Nijisanji) once you actually search for real talent. There are exactly six million vtubers who could dance and sing better than the average Holo, which already dunks on Hololive's entire purpose. Choosing Hololive only is like being a vegan, which doesn't surprise me since you are all just a bunch of sheep.
Hitomi Chris drama, Mano Aloe drama, Kiryu Coco drama, Uruha Rushia drama, male collabs, Mori's existence, 2 years of no new gen for EN, talents overworked from projects, and Holizontal project; all resulted from Hololive's shitty decision-making and their schizo fans. I have broken through the boundary of Corpo-Indie tribalism and now only seek talent for talent's sake. Enjoy seeing Mori collab with your oshis, losers.

>> No.59553407

>>59549595
Imagine when this retarded nigger finds out where does 90% of hololive chuubas come from before joining hololive.

>> No.59553416

>>59553304
Pippa was convinced Phase would end up crashing and burning in the first year. It was really bad.

>> No.59553492

>>59552564
>>59552606
Anons, I was expecting something more public, but if it's just rrats, then that's not really cracks. That's like Schrodinger's cancer or something that nobody can see until it happens.

>> No.59553519

>>59553416
yea, but that's not because the CEO was actually being evil

>> No.59553557

>>59549595
>all indies are the same
>all small corpos are the game
Are all large corpos the same too? Niji and Holo share yabs now?

>> No.59553574

>>59553492
>>59553395
Don't believe me now, thats understandable. Just when it happens down the road, know the cracks were there for awhile and not to blame any of the talents. Please just support them as much as you can when they have to start over.

>> No.59553631

>>59553574
I'll keep that in mind anon, thanks.

>> No.59553637

>>59553574
2 more weeks

>> No.59553643

>>59553574
I'm not fucking supporting anyone without hearing the side of everyone involved. Fuck off rratnigger

>> No.59553671

>>59553519
I dont see how he is any different from the one in the OP
>both pretend to be "saviors"
>both do their best to turn the talents into their "slaves"
>dont actually do any work themselves, with fishman fucking up so much with merch that he gave up and stepped down recently

>> No.59553712

>>59553574
Dumb bastard. You're so transparent.

>> No.59553758

>>59553671
>I dont see how he is any different from the one in the OP
Maybe try reading the pic in the OP post

>> No.59553762

>>59553671
He didn't step down that was a collab

>> No.59553849

>>59550169
>biweekly donothon: the company
I'm so glad somebody else noticed that. I can now rest in piece.

>> No.59553863

>>59553758
I did? Its a groomer sexpest just like fishman
Are you guys already memory-holing the steak incident?

>> No.59553921

>>59550951
If you took the AkioAir pill anytime after Mew said that she is of NEUTRAL GENDER during her debut, you deserved to get burned.

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>>59551179
Sedai is also going down.
Owozu is also going down.

T. Spic agent for Phase.

>> No.59553965

>>59553400
Your first half was unnecessary. That second half was all you needed to post to nuke OP's bullshit point into orbit.

>> No.59553984

>>59553671
>pretend to be "saviors"
just because he doesn't have infinite money glitch doesn't mean it was pretend
>turn the talents into their "slaves"
yes, it's called rules and boundaries that are strictly enforced to avoid Cyberlive situations
>dont actually do any work themselves
yes, it's called an employer. Get some capital and you can be one too, good luck not filing for bankruptcy though
>fishman fucking up so much with merch that he gave up and stepped down recently
so a boss that tries something and fucks up and knows they fucked up and stops fucking up by letting others handle it? I don't see the problem

>> No.59554000

>>59551809
It really makes you think.

>> No.59554001

>>59551418
>>Cyberlive
Retards that got took over by actual bad people from within
kek still seething about lumi. menacefags are subhuman trash.

>> No.59554038

>>59550169
they run donothons twice a week? thats crazy

>> No.59554052

>>59549731
She's going back to her old account and going by Athy.

>> No.59554211

>>59554038
thats an exageration but they run them more than any other corpo

>> No.59554394

>>59553984
>I don't see the problem
Hello fishman
When you take 9 months to ship something and you sell and charge for that merch for twice the price in a convention you will get called out

>> No.59554454

>>59551179
>Tsunderia
Turned into the Hydra of Vtubers. All their tendrils are in all corners of vTubing right up to Hololive.

>> No.59554741

>>59554394
>be the CEO of Tenma and have her directly yell and curse at me on discord calls
I fucking wish

>> No.59554944

>>59549595
where was this posted?

>> No.59555092

>>59554944
Twitter where else
https://twitter.com/nightowlthena/status/1707974560388112533

>> No.59555172

>>59554454
You mean the ntr song girl or am I missing something?

>> No.59555181

>>59553084
nice fanfic lol

>> No.59556059

>>59555172
Dizzy and Ember infiltrated Phase, Purin is likely to next.
All of them have friendships with girls cross a good portion of the corpos and indie world.
Miori has her Hololive connections
Haewon is likely getting into Nijisanji

>> No.59556191

>>59551169
Azuri latched on to Jason, what are you talking about

>> No.59556231

>>59549595
How is this against indies?
>>59552410
Maybe he means the Yuri termination? There was also a rrat that gen 3 wanted out but that was completely unsubstantiated in one of the /kuro/ threads. The only reason I'm giving it any mention is because a lot of indies really didn't like Yuri's vods being nuked and that would be in between sign up and debut timeframe.

>> No.59556278

>>59556191
daddies favorite

>> No.59556538

>>59552786
The issue was never they hired a kid, it was they hired a kid breaking their own rules and then handled the situation like absolute garbage. Did those 3 hololive underage post about playing games alone in vc with yagoo?

>> No.59556562

>>59552263
two more weeks
two more weeks, sis

>> No.59556727

>>59556059
>Purin is likely to next.
Man, I'd hope so. I wanna see the dog land on her feet so bad. Anyways, since you seem to be such a Tsunderia guy; whatever happened to Char? I used to love her gunpla streams, but she's practically disappeared from streaming?

>> No.59556836

>>59556231
Yuri's termination couldn't have lead to anyone dropping out. Fishman cooks his talents for a long time and they were already in the oven when it happened.

>> No.59557002

>>59549595
>implying the same cant happen to Holos as well
Sorry for you bro but I am happy with my small vtubers. More happy than I ever was watching Holos too.

>> No.59557093

>>59556727
Why not hope she landed on her feet as an indie? I want her to succeed but despise seeing comments like yours that push corpos.
>>59556836
You underestimated how important vods are to some vtubers. Deleting vods is like deleting memories. It definitely hit a nerve.

>> No.59557214

>>59557093
Because Purin spent a year as an indie and decided to go on indefinite hiatus and spent a month alluding to her reincarnating. Fishman was in her chat quite a bit and Dizzy was cheering on her final stream. Purin isn't like Mio, Lisa or Ami who have their shit together. She needs a company.
>>59556727
I'm afraid I haven't kept up to date with Char. I'm sure TsunX would know better than I.

>> No.59557274

>>59557093
Yuri's termination definitely soured some of the general public's opinion (not /here/) of Phase in some way. The announcement was not received well on Twitter when it came out, and a lot of people aren't willing or care enough to look further than that.

>> No.59557316

>>59557214
>a year as an indie
Yeah I'm sure the constant hospital visits gave her a great chance to shine.
>who have their shit together
Purin's shit is mostly irl. Wtf is a company going to do about it?

>> No.59557379

>>59557274
In the grand scheme of things, with no context or reason given to this day, terminating a talent that brought their own IP into the company and deleting all their VODs is sketchy, especially to an outsider who doesn't know anything about the company. Not saying Phase was in the wrong, but just putting myself in an outside perspective.

>> No.59557460

>>59557316
you sound like some jaded fucking indie seething that corpo chuubas do it better

>> No.59557526

>>59557460
>Actual rebuttal
>You're a jaded indie
Sure thing sister. Enjoy the leather corpo bootlicker.

>> No.59557571

>>59557526
and you the gutter where that shitty indie career of yours will inevitably end up

>> No.59557576

>>59549595
God these guys are fucking done man holy shit, what a bonfire

>> No.59557605

>>59557571
why are you corpofags so annoying. your oshis are hardly "making it" compared to the indie chuubas pulling quintuple their viewers doing everything you think is bad.

>> No.59557615

>>59557316
It's too late anyways, her graduation stream was even more "guys i am doing this for keyfabe but i am redebuting" stream than what Chapipi pulled out
Even fucking deaf blind people got the message that Purin signed up a contract

>> No.59557759

>>59557571
I'm not an indie. I guess you were too dumb to understand the sarcasm.
>>59557615
Yes but that doesn't stop me from despising those sort of comments. Contracts renew at a standard of 1 year. I want her to know that being indie is an option if at least for the leverage it provides and if she does decide to go indie then that people like me who couldn't care less about the corpo will be there.

>> No.59557766

>>59549595
>I have worked hard for this company and did my best for it
>"gross negligence"
I've known her since she was an indie and I hate this shitty company, but it's true that she barely did anything ever since she joined.

>> No.59558051

>>59550077
Meh, you could tell that this was a long time coming. The way Akio handled their new gen was a major red flag.

>> No.59558118

>>59552235
>But that company on the OP was supposed to be the anti Hololive company
This is a bare-faced lie you nigger, they were always a HoloEN rip-off with a bug focus on lore and keyfabe.

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>>59549595
>the final straw was the company hiring a minor
I will just assume she's desperate to cause drama for attention before redebuting as an indie if something this stupid was her "last straw"
Minors can have a job legally and hololive would hire minors as well in the past.
No one thinks how the minor(16+) feels when twitter trannies and this literal who are so desperate to have her fired from her job?

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>>59557605
>compared to the indie chuubas pulling quintuple their viewers doing everything you think is bad.
show me an indie vtuber regularly pulling 20k, faggot. i bet you can't.

>> No.59558373

>>59558180
Ui

>> No.59558386

>>59554038
you're thinking SEMI-weekly, BI-weekly means once every two weeks

>> No.59558437

>>59558124
kinda ironic your post actually proves the loli you just posted.

>> No.59558549

>>59558180
who the fuck are you using for comparison?? is it pippa?
because pippa carries her corp and owes none of her success to her company

>> No.59558560

>>59558124
>missing the point that much
that's bad even by /vt/ standard

>> No.59558635

>>59558373
>jpshit
if i cared about jpshit i would've posted jpshit corpo numbers, dumbass.
>>59558549
can't you read? the name is right on the picture you fucking idiot.

>> No.59559166

>>59553085
he plays league

>> No.59559234

>>59556059
Why do people think Haewon is getting in Nijisanji?

>> No.59559327

>>59549595
>>59549691
Holo shitty abusive management and homos deflection

>> No.59559386

Vtubing should only have cute girls, not these repulsive male groomers.

>> No.59559489

>>59554000
>makes you think
So you claim, but based on both your comments I don't think either of you did.

>> No.59559620

>>59558118
>with a bug focus on lore and keyfabe.
gross

>> No.59559683

>>59549595
> hololive anti company is filled with the most vile people
what a coincidence

>> No.59559964

>>59551591
What your corpo anon? I looking to invest in a chubba that at least doesn't explode less than a year.

>> No.59559989

>>59552386
holofans aren't declaring war on anyone
but at the same time we're not going to watch small corpo chuubas either, sorry

>> No.59560022

>>59551934
Who would have thought being in a top vtuber company in the world require hardwork.

>> No.59560118

>>59558437
All of these indies and small corpos have private discords with orbiters so desperate they will work as shills for free. Show me some proof first

>> No.59560176

>>59549595
Not the pianowl ...

>> No.59560221

>>59560022
This comment lacks any self awareness.

>> No.59560294

>>59559386
After seeing how the average gura fan looks like, I doubt the demographic will ever change

>> No.59560315

>>59559989
>holofans aren't declaring war on anyone
>Death to NON HOLOLIVE VUTUBING
Yeah, sure.
Also there are many holofans who do enjoy vtubers outside of the holobubble, me included.

>> No.59560429
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>>59551853
>>59559964
No such thing as drama free corpo, but you can pick least drama-infested ones.
>invest
That's the problem, he want to keep it small lole.

>> No.59560542

>>59560315
>Also there are many holofans who do enjoy vtubers outside of the holobubble, me included.
Quit larping, you fag. No actual holofan does this.

>> No.59560610
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>>59560542
You are absolutely delusional.

>> No.59560688

>>59549595
jezas

>> No.59561099

>>59553400
Didn't happen, all of these are rrats

>> No.59561204

>>59549595
>phase
>idol
>v&u
>vreverie
>kawaiipro
>pixellink
>prism
All these corpos have some chuubas that are worth watching, but I doubt you plan on leaving your bubble

>> No.59561405

>>59549595
QRD on Amber Glow?
Are they another black corpo or not, and why?

>> No.59561451

>>59549595
Small corpos are a trap and a grift.

>> No.59561521

>>59549595
>took the indie pill
>thought it kind of sucked
>took the 2view pill
>enjoying myself
It's about finding a streamer with a good theme.

>> No.59562182

>>59561204
Buy an ad
(Won't click or watch anyway lol)

>> No.59562258

>small corpo is revealed to be shit
>lump non-corpo vtubers in with them for some reason
fucking Holodrones, absolute retards

>> No.59562546

>>59551179
>>59551418
>>Tsunderia
what happened? The only tuber I know from there is the cute little spider who plays archaic games.

>> No.59562629

>>59562258
>everyone that doesnt agree with me is a "holodrone"
Subhuman

>> No.59562650

>>59561405
Isn't that the actress that shat on a bed

>> No.59562779

>>59556727
Char still streams, just very very rarely. As great as she is, she doesn't have the lifestyle or personality to see VTubing as anything more than an occasional hobby. I'd say it's a waste of talent, but considering how Tsunderia turned out, she was probably hit the least hard by everything that happened. Good for her, honestly

>> No.59562869
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EVERY
FUCKING
TIME

>> No.59562988

>>59562546
The owner did nothing for years and was surprised when everything dissolved around him. The chuubas themselves still have a close bond, even the ones that joined other agencies. TsunDream have debuted 4/5 of their 2.0 models, and Lisa said in her reveal yesterday that they're planning something for their 2 year anniversary. All in all, not much changed for the fanbase

>> No.59563030

>>59562869
twitch is my favourite chuuba corpo

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>>59562869
why is twitch on there?

>> No.59563092

>>59562629
if you're only willing to watch Holo and shit on all the other corpos for not being Holo then yeah, you're a holodrone.

>> No.59563118

>>59549595
Why do ALL Asians pick Jason as their western name?

>> No.59563157

>>59563092
You dont even know who watches whom here you subhuman

>> No.59563194

>>59549595
Is this why the Dragon aussie girl barely streamed anymore?

>> No.59563351

>>59563157
Read the thread retard, stop getting assblasted by someone saying mean things to you on the internet.

>> No.59563471

>>59549595
>threatened her career as a nurse
This is the wildest part to me, how exactly does this guy think he can prevent her from working her entirely unrelated day job

>> No.59563504

>>59552821
Wtf

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Was it worth?

>> No.59563773

>>59562258
True

>> No.59564012

>>59563471
she changed her job to one with a less demanding schedule.
wonder if it's related to him

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>>59549595
>non-Japanese indie
>non-Japanese small corpo
lmao
you fucked up bro
and don't fucking
>thing, japan
me like a fucking NPC with no other argument and just wanted to say that every time some japanese thing is brought up

>> No.59564782

>>59564470
>post, SEA

>> No.59564818

>>59551418
>the saddest shit about it was that management wasn't even evil
Middle management were almost all good people, but the CEO was definitely worse than just a retard. Rehiring an unironic groomer staff member who'd been fired years before when he almost killing the company, only for him to actually kill the company, is far beyond plain stupidity and goes straight into being malicious.

>> No.59565078

If you take everything Athy says here as true, it looks like she's been in a bad spot and wanted out for awhile. But didn't leave because she was worried about reaction from the company and others. But the 17 year old has given her cover. The idea that a company can't hire a 17 year old to stream video games is stupid. There were 13 year olds in the main cast of stranger things and no one gave a shit. So people who want to use it as an attack say minor or child. People under 18 work in entertainment all the time, harry potter movies anyone? So that just feels hollow. Clearly she feels using the child endangerment line will help her get out without the company hassling her. I hope it works. A shit company that treats it's biggest talent poorly should go under for that and not she was only 17 you monster how dare you pay her to play video games on yt!

>> No.59565171

>>59560221
retard

>> No.59565229

>>59565078
>The idea that a company can't hire a 17 year old to stream video games is stupid. There were 13 year olds in the main cast of stranger things and no one gave a shit. So people who want to use it as an attack say minor or child. People under 18 work in entertainment all the time, harry potter movies anyone? So that just feels hollow.
There's a clear difference between child actors and child vtubers though, that being that you can't really have an adult play a child character in a live action film or TV show without completely breaking suspension of disbelief. This isn't an issue with vtubers, and any company going out of its way to hire younger talents when there's still a massive talent pool of people who are of adult age just makes it look like they're going for easy grooming targets (which in this case is probably accurate).

>> No.59565294

>>59551418
>Exposed groomer pedophile
Other than the current underage talent, is there much evidence of this? I’m not that familiar with AkioAir

>> No.59565473

>>59565229
Yes. Also, people are aware now of the psychological effects of a child celebrity, especially when she/he grows up. It's as if to put underage in the entertainment industry is inherently unhealthy for the children.

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/ourguy/ is on the case

>> No.59565625

>>59565078
Yeah the whole minor outrage is just an excuse from the people that wanted out at this point

>> No.59565671

>>59549595
It's over

>> No.59565694

>>59549947
>mainlander chinese grooming club
>mainlander
Akio is located in Taiwan, you /pol/tarded threadreader.

>> No.59565772

>>59549595
the real problem is that those companies are compromised of crazy 20 yo women who act out since they arent married like they should be

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>>59554000
The only thing it makes me think about is more ideas for generals to flood out all the retarded schizo catalog bait. kys, TUD

>> No.59565920

>>59565078
A child being cast for a role in a horror series is a completely different thing from a child being cast for a style of live entertainment that basically revolves around flirting with obese nerds to get them to send you money and draw porn of your character. Vtubing and pedophiles are too inextricably linked for actual underages getting involved to ever be a good idea

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>>59551073
>>59553261
>>59560294
>actually thinks Gura's streaming habits is some magic blank check to ignore indie/other corpo shit and/or instant win card against Hololive.
Is that why you desperately spam bait threads on catalog?

>> No.59566022

>>59565229
>you can't really have an adult play a child character in a live action film or TV show without completely breaking suspension of disbelief
The child in question is 17, lots of adults in hollywood play teens younger than that. And kids in entertainment unfortunately get groomed or worse many times but it's never stopped hollywood from hiring child actors.

>> No.59566039

>>59552235
Retarded but not for the reason the other guy said. Athy was always a holofan and everyone knew it before Akio existed, let alone before gen 1 was announced. /aa/ was discussing how confused their marketing was.
>>59558118
First off (You) can't type, second it was Akio's lie because they absolutely presented themselves that way even if they didn't actually do it. Website reps.
>>59552523
It's better that the catalog thread is retarded like this, it attracts catalog monkeys and keeps them away from generals that are actually worth something.

>> No.59566052

>>59566010
Spamming catalog baits is all they have to cope.

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>>59552821
Man, I forgot how bad the English was for the early drafts of the site.

>> No.59566080

>>59565229
I disagree. But let's get rid of that breaking suspension worry by looking at animation. Surely only people from that massive talent pool of 18+ get hired for animated works right? Not really. Moana 14, Russel from UP 9, iron giant mc 14.
Kana Hanazawa started in anime at 14.

>> No.59566280

>>59565294
>Other than the dead body, is there much evidence that someone died?

>> No.59566394

>>59565078
>>59565625
>>59566022
>>59566080
see >>59565920, then kys

>> No.59566486

>>59566280
By this logic then Yagoo is also a groomer CEO because Holo also did this

>> No.59566545

>>59552821
>our own payment gateway
lmao, wtf
red flags show up right away

>> No.59566546

>>59554001
For once I believe he's actually talking about Vera.

>> No.59566619

>>59566486
Yes.jpg
Not here to defend Hololive, here to defend the chuubas.

>> No.59566621

>>59563118
Would you rather a Kevin?

>> No.59566840

>>59566394
Shion
Haachama
Ollie

All underage at the time of their Hololive debut
>but hololive doesn't count

>> No.59566896

>>59566619
Well at least your consistent, i think it takes a little more than hiring a minor to be a pedophile, its definitely a red flag though.

>> No.59567033

>>59566840
Yes, and were any of them forced to play league with Yagoo? No? Then why are you bringing them up

>> No.59567059

>>59566896
There is more, do reps
The hiring is still obviously a bad idea, it was less obviously bad years ago when Yagoo did it but everyone can see what the industry is like now.

>> No.59567082

>>59567033
They had to deal with creeps on their own too
Especially Shion

>> No.59567148

Listen, you can hate Akio for their treatment of the owl and others without falling on a fainting couch because a seventeen year old was hired to do the voice for an cartoon character as if it was some unprecedented event. I bet 3/4 of the female seiyu in anime got their start before eighteen.

>> No.59567161

>>59567059
Thats why I asked if there was any other evidence beyond just hiring a minor, then I was told that alone was evidence enough.

>> No.59567250

>>59567082
Calling Gura a creep is a bit harsh, don't you think?

>> No.59567316

>hiring a minor
Questionable(And the only thing similar Hololive did here)

>hiring a minor when your site explicitly states all your talents and all applicants are over 18
>hiring a minor and putting philia as their main fan hashtag
>hiring a minor and letting them follow a bunch of 18+ adult content creators
>hiring a minor and not letting the rest of their genmates and senpai know you hired a minor
>hiring a minor and privately playing games with them in a Discord VC
Things Hololive didn't do

>> No.59567331

>>59566896
It's only a red flag in countries where children are treated like slaves.

>> No.59567334

>>59567148
Most seiyuu and actual idols do.
Not to defense the black company, but among all the allegations here, hiring a minor is the least damaging one (IMO)

>> No.59567383

The minor is 14, not 17 by the way, but everyone seems to avoid bringing that up.

>> No.59567447

>>59549595
Damn. I liked her and Kion. I hope they can all leave quickly.

>> No.59567547

>>59567383
AA claimed she would turn 18 early next year, but they could be lying. It is always possible previous estimates on the talents age are based on false information - it's not like we haven't seen vtubers misrepresent things like that themselves (cough, Kiki, cough).

>> No.59567627

I hope we can groom Nophi into doing gfe ASMR with ear licking to be honest

>> No.59567738

>>59567161
Sorry, I assumed you were paying at least a little more attention than that.
>>59567250
kek

>> No.59567765

>>59567627
lol lmao she isn't even going to debut and this first vtubing experience is going to make her never try again

>> No.59567969

>>59567765
Would be kind of a shame if she was entirely discouraged. AA mostly hires people with musical talent and if she was gifted at a young age she could have a lot of potential.

>> No.59568002

>>59549595
>Death to NON HOLOLIVE VUTUBING
holodrone

>> No.59568674

>>59567316
>Things Hololive didn't do
>He doesn't know

>> No.59568789

So you're saying Rindo has a chance?

>> No.59568846

>>59568789
If she can accept being groomed and becoming the CEO's plaything, then yes. Simple things, but everyone is throwing a fuss about them.

>> No.59569138

>>59553085
he realised he was retarded and offloaded a bunch of his work

>> No.59569232

>>59569138
I mean that’s respectable honestly, doing what you know and letting other employees do what you can’t is just smart.

>> No.59569244

>>59558124
>debut talent
>tell everyone about how much of a minor she is
>remind everyone shes a minor
shes a minor y'know

>> No.59569380

>>59569244
She did mention that she wasn’t even aware they were hiring a minor until the twitter post, that seems to be the bigger issue to me. Anyone could’ve told AA that hiring a minor would bring controversy but if Athy’s word is accurate they seemingly didn’t mention it to anyone.

>> No.59569534

>>59569380
Why should she be made aware that a new company hire is 17? Does she get the age and background of everyone that works at the company? Seems unreasonable and like a scapegoat to get out of the company that she's unhappy with already.

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>>59569380
he hired a minor for the purpose of grooming her, they broke their own rules and put their company on the line for this one specific talent who happens to be underage witha history of being groomed

i give it 5 months before we start hearing major allegations of sexual harrasment/abuse.

>> No.59569677

>>59569534
>not letting other people in the company know they're speaking to a minor when everyone is acting under the assumption they're all adults
You must be dumb as fuck to not see a problem here

>> No.59571790

>>59561405
Not that I know of, at least I haven't heard about any yabs involving them.
Unlike most corpos they stream on twitch, in case that's a turn-off for you

>> No.59571971

>>59569534
Considering they aren't following company policy, yes they should probably inform their talents that they're making an exception here. This could open up a line of communication between talents and management as to what their plans are to protect this talent and what sort of content will be off limits. Instead of that, it just looks like Akio Air knew it would be a issue so they just decided not to inform the talents about it. Even if Akio Air isn't required to provide this information, it's a matter of ethics to inform their talents that they're working with a minor.

>> No.59572221

>>59571790
I rarely see twitch corpos work out in general, they usually end up being microcorps in my experience. Twitch is definitely the more popular streaming platform but it's a lot easier to organize multiple channels on youtube.

>> No.59572377

>>59550169
>>59553849
Aren't many of the girls trying to get new computers?
A third of them had kind of shit PCs that could barely handle a game and streaming at the same time.

>> No.59572414

Death to corpos
Death to Taiwan

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https://twitter.com/Akio_Air/status/1708123820928667711?t=2ttOHZ0drcqzJ5bu_9VS4A&s=19

Thinly veiled retarded threat time

>> No.59572672

>>59567765
Anon, this is already her second corpo, she got groomed in the first one even harder

>> No.59572696

>>59558124
the gachaslop lolibait picture is like the cherry on top for this post

>> No.59573247

>>59572584
How does a company manage to kill itself this hard in one month?
Is the CEO too focused on grooming to actually think?

>> No.59573368

>>59558124
We don't post Syuen in this house, not without abuse

>> No.59573490

>>59573247
He finally got his hands on a minor and all the blood from his brain rushed to his dick.

>> No.59573587

>>59573247
The teenage egirl pussy got him wildin'.
The funniest/most pathetic thing is, he doesn't even get to actually fuck though since it's all just online shit anyway. He torched his whole company for what, a few LoL dates at worst or maybe some private discord sessions at best, if he ever got that far.

Bro at this point it'd be cheaper to just buy an irl prostitute or, if underage is your actual thing, a flight to some neighboring SEA country and sample some desperate local wares.

>> No.59573882

>>59573247
Discord kitten e-girl VC JOI hits different, I'd assume

>> No.59574135

>>59573587
Man could've gone to Thailand to get some jailbait bitches and good food but instead he chose to fuck over what? 5 people or more trying to become good vtubers, all in exchange for a few discord calls and LoL dates, it's astonishing really

>> No.59574278

>>59572221
>they usually end up being microcorps
Nothing wrong with that speaking as a viewer, as long as they don't go under.
But you're right, twitch is mostly indie turf

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The whole AkioAIR discord has been set to read-only lmao

>> No.59574560

>>59574518
Any screenshots of the dumpster fire?

>> No.59574638

>>59574560
just gorilla man trying to do some damage control about 10 hours ago
Waiting warmly for gen 2 debut

>> No.59574639

>>59574278
By microcorps i’m sort of talking like 1view to low 2view chuubas, to the point where splitting revenue with a corpo is almost just not worth it if you’re already that small.

>> No.59574771

>>59549595
I rather watch anything over Whorelive.
Fuck your astroturfed overrated mediocre corporate garbage.

>> No.59574834

>>59573587
>>59573882
>>59574135
Is the underage talent also in Taiwan?
Maybe he was attempting to groom her into meatspace dates.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlEfqhEaHTc
GET IN HERE LADS

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>>59572584
>if you apologize we wont sue you
who wrote this shit

>> No.59575333

>>59574984
Jason the groomer CEO, obviously.

>> No.59575396

New gen debut is apparently going ahead regardless
Who would choose to still debut under such circumstances?

>> No.59575485

>>59574834
Not even in Taiwan, she literally posted a picture of the sunset from her house, it looked either european or Canadian (btw also a good reason to not hire minors is because they do shit like that)

>> No.59575516

>>59575396
the groomed minor and the leaker who's terrified of legal consequences (because they dont understand the contracts are toilet paper)

>> No.59575553

>>59575396
Because they are scared to break their contract and are probably being threatened behind the scenes.

>> No.59575710

Who's the AkioAir shill that was trying to damage control in /pcg/ earlier

>> No.59575798

>>59574984
Not his "company legal" who probably doesn't even exist at this point lmao

>> No.59575810

>>59575710
The same shill that was deflecting yesterday by attacking PixelLink I'm sure

>> No.59575822

>>59575516
>>59575553
It's kind of funny sad. They could simply just dip and Jason the pedo can't do shit.

>> No.59575873

This thread reeks of phase faggotry. I'm sorry Miguel, I'm not gonna watch your shitty corpo, enjoy Pippa and her goons and stop shitting on holo you mongrel.

>> No.59575906

>>59550951
How's Fen doing? She was the only AA I watched, and I got kinda blindsided by her retiring.

>> No.59576000
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Just how wet, sticky and tight does her pussy have to be for this guy to burn his entire company to the ground for it?
That has to be the highest quality premium pussy ever.

>> No.59576587

>>59575873
>t. Mindbroken schizo

>> No.59579596

>>59552497
Cyberlive seethe isn't even real, everyone gave up defending them after the Vera incident

>> No.59579664

>>59575906
https://www.twitch.tv/dee_the_sphinx
I never watched her much in AA either (she was nice but I didn't care for the heavy lore rp stuff), but she's basically doing the same stuff now as a twitch indie. Viewer-wise, while she was never a heavy hitter in the corp, she's doing the same or slightly worse now (sub 50 ccv), BUT considering she doesn't have to deal anymore with a groomer pedo taking half of whatever meager income she makes, it's still better lol

>> No.59579716

People keep falling for this obvious bait, amazing really

>> No.59580174

>>59565229
>>59565078
>>59565473
There are also a massive amount of protections in place for child actors now after 70+ years of grooming and shit. Comparing a child actor to child vtuber is retarded.

>> No.59580337

>>59579596
Most of the Cyberlive talents have turned up in other corpos by now and are doing okay. Anyone who still seethes probably doesn't even watch them and is just baiting for drama

>> No.59580562

>>59549595
Please tell me that people shit up the two debuts calling Jason a groomer.

>> No.59580615

>>59579664
Hey, thanks anon. Much appreciated.

>> No.59580817

>>59551934
That's on her, she's ambitious and hardworking. She could take it easy like Gura, but she's not a lazy fuck.

>> No.59580861

>>59549595
Take your pills, in general.

>> No.59580979

>>59549947
Jews are neutral by default. The zhangs are the villains. Every bit of faggotry your ilk have accused the jews of is shit the zhangs have been doing right along. Gb2/pol/ and stay there

>> No.59581056

>>59553137
>>59553395
Considering how his company is full of girls who can't very seem to keep their mouths shut lika Lia, Tenma and Pippa, I just assume that anything bad we *haven't* already heard about him is probably just a rrat

>> No.59581119

>>59551809
Except not.
>things are peaceful when the faggots who go nuclear over hearing a male voice dominate
You retards have zero self awareness

>> No.59581258

>>59574984
Board of directors

>> No.59581386

>>59549595
>my corpo has hired cunny
>REEEEEEEEEEEE I quit
Hag reaching expiring date things.

>> No.59581563

>>59558373
Regularly?

>> No.59581654

new bread about Akio status doko? without retarted bait

>> No.59581714

>>59558560
here comes another one >>59581386

>> No.59581746

>>59565920
>>59566394
That says more about you than it does about vtubing.

>> No.59581875

>>59581714
What would the tier bellow threadreaders be called?

>> No.59582053

>>59567316
>Matsuri towards Shion
>Marine and Shion one night together
>Haachama’s existence
>All the girls admitting to liking little boys and girls to the point that a man would’ve been put on a list or arrested
>Gen 1 and 2 were direct auditions/scouting by Yagoo
The only difference is you’re a schizo. If you trust hololive you might as well trust them as well

>> No.59582065

>>59556059
Tsunderia leaving behind an outsized legacy and several of its former members having at least a solid niche following as 3view indies is hilarious. Everyone shares in the glory of having been part of Tsunderia except for the retard CEO who’s the reason Tsunderia is referred to in the past tense.

>> No.59582106

>>59581119
Exactly. The lack of unicorns is precisely what makes the Nijisanji fanbase so peaceful and yabless in comparison.

>> No.59582168

>>59582053
That is nowhere as comparable to forcing your talents to play league with you on discord you braindead troglodyte

>> No.59582276

>>59582053
That sounds way more like Holo talents have a pedo problem and less like Yagoo is corrupt himself

>> No.59582328

>>59569677
>>59571971
Nta but that doesn’t make sense. Every corpo hires first and then only tells the other talents a bit before their debut anywhere from 3 months out to the day of their debut. It was like that for Hololive, Nijisanji, Kawaii, Vreverie you name it. And if 17 is a problem you should be complaining about the 13-16 year old vtubers out there as well because they aren’t just playing games with people

>> No.59582527

>>59565078
She's younger than 17.

>> No.59582740

>>59582328
I don’t know where you’re getting your information stating that this is always the rule, I know this definitely wasn’t the case for Phase gen 2. Times vary drastically from completed auditions to debut, Phase had their talents for gen 2 decided like half a year before debut and interacting with talents behind the scenes, but then other corpos will complete auditions and debut the talents in a month. This isn’t even considering the fact they’re making an exception to their company policy and not informing their employees about it until last minute.

>> No.59582758

>>59572584
I don’t even watch this girl or this corpo but I do get their fucking ads but I watched her collab with Miori and Lua. 4 out of those 5 things are indeed things she had but without a receipt no proof she didn’t pay for it herself. More he said she said but if they’re willing to sue they have receipts

>> No.59582833

>>59580174
Yea the difference is you don’t have to meet them in person and you could have a parent or guardian there at all times

>> No.59583013

>>59582833
Child actors has parents/guardians around, productions are required to have teachers and support staff around. The level interaction is completely different too. Stranger Things kids weren't in close contact with fans like how small vtubers are. And Millie Bobby Brown had Drake sliding into her DMs while 80% of Nophii's chat will be trying to pull a Drake.

>> No.59583047

>>59582053
You're right
man, I hate holofags' white knighting
>>59582276
> less like Yagoo is corrupt himself
some shit might be revealed after years. it's asian company filled with asian corposlaves, after all.

>> No.59583103

>>59582168
Having sex with or molesting a minor isn’t as bad as forcing someone to play online games. It looks like the police have been going about this wrong

>>59582276
Oh yea definitely but if you believe them they’ve stopped at the line

>> No.59583113

Someone post the wasted models.

>> No.59583443

>>59583013
>Virtual
>In person

>> No.59583937

>>59549595
How many minors is Jason going to groom to skinwalk the talent that left to go back to being indies?

>> No.59584121

>some "corpo" which is some creeps glorified Discord groomlist
>b-but what about that one time a Hololive talent joked about something!?
Cover is a professional corporation with an HR department. This other one is some cyber pimp rape cage.

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>>59584121
> pimp rape cage
ahem, cough, cough

>> No.59584782

>>59584611
Why dont you try watching that clip and see who she is talking about

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New bread
>>59584327
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