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>Constant breakdowns from all the stress she's under from all the projects and appearances she has to do while still streaming
>Numerous posts to her members and community about how stressed she is over everything and how she can't handle it
>Opens today's Minecraft stream by fucking crying and telling everyone she almost just had a panic attack over problems with her 3D showcase in 2 days
Are the girls being overworked by Cover? It seems that they've made a huge push this year for more idol activities from their talents and Bae especially has ended up taking the brunt of it

>> No.59505888 [DELETED] 

>>59505833
>i am so le stressed having the easiest job on the planet

>> No.59506068

>>59505888
cute underage/thirdworlder

>> No.59506123

>>59505833
which niji graduated today?

>> No.59506156

>>59505833
She is sweating over her 3D showcase. She probably has homos on it and is scared of the reception. Other than that idk why else she would be scared

>> No.59506191 [DELETED] 

I hope she cracks and kills herself.

>> No.59506228

>>59505833
Bae is stressed because she's a little baby and she always bites off more than she could chew. Overload of projects and expectations is her own doing.

>> No.59506229

>>59505888
Streaming is stressful as fuck anyway, even people like Jacksepticeye and Markiplier have either quit or gone crazy, but having to do it for the most unhinged menhera NEET fans possible is even worse.

>> No.59506283

>>59505888
checked

>> No.59506287

>>59505833
>Are the girls being overworked by Cover?
Is water wet? How many holos have permanent throat damage from streaming too much? Japanese work culture is insane.

>> No.59506288

>>59505833
Of course everyone here shits on cover because you have to defend your oshi
But I don't know... I mean what can you do when you have to deal with retarded zoomers with anxiety problems

>> No.59506347

>>59506287
Most streamers on twitch stream WAY MORE what the fuck are you talking about

>> No.59506428

>>59505833
And some people say Holomen are not real idols pff

>> No.59506444

>>59506347
I don't see twitch streamers needing to take breaks because their throat got fucked up.

>> No.59506485

>>59506347
They don't put on cutesy voices though. But that's not Cover's fault.

>> No.59506502

>>59505833
>Numerous posts to her members and community about how stressed she is over everything and how she can't handle it
>Numerous
>Check Communitty Tab
>OP img
>1 member post saying she knows her fans will love what she has in store for them
>schedule
>Food
>schedule
>Food
>schedule
>more schedule
Why wouldn't you just take another talking point that wasn't so easily disproven by a few clicks of the mouse? Or just omit that completely because you already had it in your fucking img OPchama

>> No.59506556

>>59506502
If you say something is in a member post, people won't aren't members will believe it and not ask for proof.

>> No.59506598

>>59505833
>opens minecraft stream by crying
That hot. I'll watch your oshi now

>> No.59506656

>>59505833
>all the projects and appearances she has to do while still streaming
her fault for streaming through it. it's been long established that it's fine not to

>> No.59506688

>>59506556
Isn't that on OP to post because it literally was mentioned as part of his talking point? Or maybe he didn't want to because it actually goes against the narrative

>> No.59506699

Cover should avoid zoomers and hire hags only. You shouldn't give these zoomers an audience
So far biboo is the only "child" who seems strong enough to do this job, but we'll see

>> No.59506746

>>59506598
Holy fucking shit she sounds so hot. This isnt even a meme her normal voice is 10x better than her screaming vtuber voice jesus christ i wish she wasnt boring.
https://www.youtube.com/live/El5Q4Q9Te6I?si=3AEQn-YF4edSEUMd

>> No.59506803

>>59505833
>all the projects
It's just her 3D showcase and her impostor syndrome telling her that it's gonna be a shit and that everyone is gonna leave her after that stream

>> No.59506826

>>59506746
>>59506598
Both me btw. Tell your oshi to talk normally more often and I'll member her

>> No.59506888

>>59506826
She talks normally 90% of the time in normal streams when she's not super excited now and goes even more casual and deeper in members streams

>> No.59506903

>Are the girls being overworked by Cover?
Miko had a hiatus for months
Haachama is currently on hiatus
Gura is MIA
Irys is also recovering
Judging by the many absent people, cover is fairly deliberate on giving them time to rest. its just up to them if they want to take it. Most people feel (for some reason) inadequate about asking for PTA

>> No.59506906

>>59505833
>idiot who piles more on her plate than she can handle until she crumbles on stream

it's not cover, they clearly let the talent set their own schedule. Bae is just fucking stupid and has to try 10x harder than others to try to climb out of the runt grave she dug for herself be being such a raging homo shill

>> No.59507010

>>59506903
>Gura is MIA
Gura is been going MIA for more than a year, and whenever she's on stream she sounds like she doesn't want to be there.
Don't put her on the same bag as Miko, Haachama and IRyS, you're making them look bad

>> No.59507049

>>59505833
Looks like she's going down the Kiara path of working hard, obsessing over her lower numbers, and ending up depressed after seeing how high the mountain she has to climb is.
Like seriously, look at the most popular EN 3D Showcases, they were done by Ina, Gura and Mumei. Overworking yourself doesn't create a fanbase you can rely on, just accept that maybe you're not going to do as well as you wished, but that it's okay nonetheless.

>> No.59507055

>>59507010
i used gura because cover clearly keeps her employed despite her being MIA as an example that bae can indeed take time off to recover without having to worry the wrath of yagoo

>> No.59507137

wtf is her problem? all she has to do is show up and do the shit she usually does and me and many others will eat that shit up.

>> No.59507154

>>59505833
It's bait anon. Complaining about how life is hard attracts goslings, which means more money whenever she does something special.

>> No.59507179

>>59505833
if FAUNA of all people had to take a break, I wouldn't be surprised.

Ganbate council!

>> No.59507190

>>59505888
fpbp
women are pathetic

>> No.59507260

>>59506347
twitch streamers don't have to appear in idol events and take vocal/dance lessons. hololive girls do way more than just stream.

>> No.59507282

>>59507055
The problem with that is that Gura has already reached a critical mass to the point that she can take as much time off as she needs and come back to tens of thousands of cheers
Bae needs a little more consistent effort to maintain that kind of appeal

>> No.59507297

>>59505888
now you try to appease people like unicorns while not going menhera

>> No.59507326

>>59505888
bait or retarded?

>> No.59507406

>>59507260
shhh, most of this board thinks that vtubing is just streaming with an anime avatar and nothing beyond that because thats what the western whores they watch think it is

>> No.59507446

>>59506123
Unironically Reza Avanluna from ex-ID

>> No.59507460

>>59506598
>crying from stress is hot
psychopath behavior

>> No.59507518

>>59505833
give her a break, shes nervous about having sex with roberu live on stream

>> No.59507631

>>59506229
Marklipier streamed? I thought he only did lets plays. And you get bored of it eventually and if you're able to actually move on and make money without streaming anymore thats the goal. Fun for a bit then hope you became huge enough to not have to even stream anymore.

>> No.59507670

>>59507446
reza was a nice singer, rip

>> No.59507692

>>59506347
The vtubers I see on twitch sleep for HOURS on stream. Its just lazier content. Maybe they will watch videos to react to for hours as well. Anyone streaming over 4 hours isnt putting effort into making their content entertaining.

>> No.59507691

>>59505888
fpbp

>> No.59507779

Chances a HoloJP told her to remove her after she let it known there would be homos on her showcase? What other last minute changes would be occurring that literally has her breaking down?

>> No.59507840

>>59506347
>react content where they just put YouTube videos and they eat for a few hours.
It’s literally not the same lmao

>> No.59507896

>>59507779
Retarded post in general but I am genuinely curious what could possibly have changed at the very last minute that could be so significant as to cause a breakdown like this unless she has a whole segment or something planned that got canned because they couldn't get permissions in time

>> No.59507907

>>59505833
Watching Holo EN seems like it's no fun at all anymore.

>> No.59508011

>>59505833
She's just stressed because she is an incredibly anxious person, that's literally it. Now go fuck yourself
>>59505888
Get a gall of THIS subhuman thirdworlder

>> No.59508219

>>59507460
nta but just the crying part sometimes is, especially if shes usually an upbeat or serious kind of girl.

>> No.59508218

>>59507282
Gura is more "radioactive" and has lower critical mass as a streamer than Bae

>> No.59508266

>>59505833
Stupid fucking retard, she's stressed because Bae overloads herself with projects and she's anxious about her 3D showcase because she has anxiety issues in general, that's literally it. There is no cover forcing her to do anything.

>> No.59508294

>>59506228
This basically. She jumps into the deep end and is surprised the water is deep

>> No.59508389

>>59505833
Yep, I hope they get their work load a little bit smaller, after all advent is already in ready to batton pass right? Maybe it was management being reckless or maybe it was bad timing? There are a lot of holos now and that means each one has her own 3D debut, costume, album, invitation to appear in Japan, merch planning, anniversary planning, birthday planning, schedule planning, karaoke song list planning, thumbnails, meetings at 4 AM, sponsorship management, networking and all that good stuff from case to case, it's good that cover is keepig them busy but it feels like they got a little bit over the limit on what it could feel comfortable for them

>> No.59508393

>>59507907
It's plenty fun. I hope you're not getting all your information from bait threads on the catalog.

>> No.59508440

>>59507460
Yes. I am also into ryona if that gives you clearer idea of things I like. If she was flesh streamer it'd be different, but anime girls suffering is hot.

>> No.59508486

>>59507907
What? VTubers cry, shit happens

>> No.59508497

>>59507190
The fact that it got deleted explains the state of this board

>> No.59508554

>>59507297
Bae doesn't have unicorns

>> No.59508577

>guys in Ukraine are getting sent in to the meatgrinder to fight for some bullshit
>b-b-but recording some singing and streaming 3 times a week is a nightmare
lol

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>>59505833
This is a thinly veiled advertisement for Bae's 3D that's happening tomorrow.

>> No.59508730

>>59508497
Mods are gods. Don't question they're activities or you'll get smited too.

>> No.59508780

>>59508577
Baffling that this somehow isn't the worst post on this board right now

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>>59506347
>stream

>> No.59508815

>>59508497
post nut clarity after gangbanging your mom

>> No.59508994

>>59505888
Compatitive speaking en definitely dosent do as much work as jp those girls put out 2 3dlives every year plus all the company lives and semi regular streams they are basically monsters.
That said it is far from the easiest job in the world streaming is stressful and holos do a lot of stuff behind the sciene. council had been in japan for a while, though is say someone like gura isn't doing much but she is just burned out.

>> No.59509090

>>59508666
>breaks down
>profusely apologizes for crying on stream
>does the stream anyways and doesnt let it get to her too much because she still has to be there for her fans
>AHHHHHHHHH WHAT A BITCH DOESNT SHE KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE DYING?? I WILL NOW PRETEND TO BE OUTRAGED ABOUT THIS
some of you subhumans are the same as twitter trannies. you really are miserable

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>>59506123
enna is getting bullied in her members stream

>> No.59509148

>>59506156
it's amazing to see how faggots like (you) can't stop thinking about dick, truly fascinating

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>>59509090 (me)
meant to reply to op

>> No.59509204

>>59508994
Bae definitely has taken on a jp-tier workload at this point

>> No.59509205
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>>59509121
It's not the best

>> No.59509240

>>59509148
Says the one who brought up cock

>> No.59509282

>>59506123
>>59507446
>>59509121
>this is your brain on /vpol/

>> No.59509342

>>59508497
That its good? Im tired of the incel shit spilling everywhere.

>> No.59509432

>>59505833
Japan Arc is coming soon

>> No.59509475

>>59506347
Twitch streams are shit, look at XQC whos content consist of watching videos in silence

>> No.59509749

>>59509342
How is that incel shit? Being an internet "entertainer" is the easiest job in this planet. Either for men and women.
>sit on front of the computer
>play a game
>talk to a camera
Job done, easy money.

>> No.59509827

>>59509749
Braindead retard doesn't even understand that the point she is stressed about has nothing to do with playing games or streaming

>> No.59509939

>>59509749
>women are pathetic
Its incel shit anon. All women are pathetic? Every single one? Are qe supposed to just take it in the ass when incels say shit?

>> No.59510062

>>59509939
Not all women but streamers? Definitely.
Same goes for men, het a real job.

>> No.59510158

>>59510062
>women are pathetic
>ehhhh i mean men and women, also i only meant streams
Get real

>> No.59510256

>>59509827
Boohoo, recording songs is so hard!

>> No.59510311

>>59506123
No one, but irys is going to soon

>> No.59510390

>>59510256
Yeah it's pretty fucking easy. Post an hour long video of yourself posting final versions of songs after doing multiple tales until they sound perfect accompanied by a choreography that you choregraphed yourself
I'll wait

>> No.59510599

>>59509475
that's like saying youtube streams are all shit because of the fake elon bitcoin scam streams

>> No.59510873

>>59506347
> Most streamers on twitch *sleep WAY MORE
ftfy

>> No.59510889

>>59505888
Why was this deleted?

>> No.59510940

>>59510390
She doesn't even have to mix the songs or edit the video kek, get over yourself

>> No.59511035

>>59510940
I'm still waiting big boy, put your money where your mouth is

>> No.59511220

>>59509827
>she is stressed about has nothing to do with playing games or streaming
Braindead retard doesn't even understand what is her problem, but defends it anyway

>> No.59511241

>>59506347
The vast majority of twitch streamers make fuck all so most are just part timers. With that being said you are right that a lot do put in more stream hours. Yes, some of the girls do their dance and/or singing reps like one anon mentioned but I seriously doubt even twenty put in real effort in that department. And even if we say they all do the same amount Koyori proves that there is still time to stream. I'm not sure why the other anons sperged out when every day we have threads calling several of the holos lazy whores

>> No.59511257

>>59510390
Easy, she has all the resources provided by the company. They will do all of the heavy lifting.
Anyone could do it.

>> No.59511310

>>59509121
Good

>> No.59511343

>>59511220
You truly are a braindead retard

>> No.59511370

>>59511220
>what is her

>> No.59511378

>>59511035
Ah I see, you're a retarded parrot, just like your oshi.

>> No.59511413

>>59511378
t.alentless nog

>> No.59511541

>>59511413
You would know a lot considering you stan one

>> No.59511600
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59511600

>>59510873
Ironmouse streams long hours, releases songs and covers, does karaokes, and still finds the time to appear on other people's streams when she isn't streaming. Even when she was sleeping on the subathon she was still awake for 16 hours a day. She does all this while being on medications for her condition along with receiving weekly plasma infusions.

>> No.59511622

>>59511541
Typical slumdog, all talk no bark.

>> No.59511627

>>59506903
>IRyS is sick
She's hiding after her fanbase sperged out about the male collab.

>> No.59511660

Even Jerma, arguably the most influential streamer, is quitting.

Anything can become miserable after it becomes an obligation. Eating pizza is fun. Having to eat pizza for a living even if you get obese, disgusting, full of pimples, and not being able to stop since you cannot quit and lose your progress, well that just sucks.

>> No.59511721

>>59507907
Try watching the dogs.

>> No.59511756

>>59511622
>expecting anyone to doxx themselves over a 4chan argument
rumao

>> No.59511823

>>59508666
It's working.... I had thought she had her showcase already

>> No.59511862

>>59511627
QRD?

>> No.59511998

>>59505833
>Panic attack over problems with her 3D
What? no. That's pure assumption. She has been anxious since the beginning of the week. She has severe imposter syndrome, worked incredibly hard on her 3D but she still feels like it's not good enough so she doesn't deserve to hype it up so she beats herself over it. She has always been an anxious girl with rock bottom self esteem so she has episodes like this whenever she's about to do a super big project over fears she herself considers silly because her fans love and support her every single time.

>> No.59512008

>>59511862
Her fans raged because she was in the overwatch 2 event with homos on the other team. She's only done a jp stream and a membership stream since then.

>> No.59512070

>>59506347
twitch whore streaming 200 hours a month is worth less than one hololive stream in terms of preparation and actual effort

>> No.59512109

>>59511998
Fear of disappointing your fans is a good thing, that means she wants to do the best her best for her fans and is committed to putting on a good show for them

>> No.59512116

>>59511600
Ironmouse plays with monkey instead of interacting with viewers*

>> No.59512151

>>59511660
Wait fucking Jerma is quitting?

>> No.59512179

>>59505833
Aww what a shame. Maybe she should quit if she can't cope. It'll only upset like 30 people so no big deal

>> No.59512224

>>59505833
>Hiring Menhera zoomers
Every fucking problem that arises is from zoomers. Cover! Hire only hags!!

>> No.59512239

>>59512151
He is moving to doing youtube videos and being a manager for a streamer company. He will stream but very low energy and only once in a while.

>> No.59512313

>>59506746
Damn that's seriously hot.

>> No.59512358

>>59511998
there is no assumption, that is quite literally what she told us

>> No.59512489

>>59512358
Timestamp because I don't remember

>> No.59512731

>>59512489
Within the first few minutes of her latest stream, she starts the stream choking back tears explaining this

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>>59505833

>> No.59513230

>>59506123
rent free holobrony, eat shit and die

>> No.59513320

Yet mori has no problems streaming while dealing with both hololive commitments and umj commitments :/

>> No.59513391

>>59513320
Bullshit, even Mori complains when cover fuckery outside of her control happens with something she's working on

>> No.59513525

>girls are all supposedly overworked and doing stuff behind the scenes
>with nothing to show for it
???

>> No.59513611

>>59513525
Bad argument to use with Bae who always has something to show for her BTS stuff

>> No.59513646

>A rare case of a 4chan user showing human compassion
>It's for the 2D avatar of a real person

This would be funny if it didn't have dire consequences for the human race

>> No.59513652

>>59513611
There are indies who work full time jobs and still do 3D debuts...so what I'm trying to say is I don't buy that it's too stressful or anything.

>> No.59513692

>>59513652
My dear friend, they are indies for a reason, they don't have company prestige to represent

>> No.59513730

>>59513692
That's a meaningless statement. What does that even mean. It's not more stressful than working 40 hours a week as a wageslave that's for sure.

>> No.59513803

>>59506287
>this argument from faggots who insist 90% of holos "never stream"
If they work you rage that they're overworked and call cover a black company
If they take time off your rage that they "never" steam and hate everything/everyone
It's time to acknowledge that you're only here to shitpost, to take your meds, and to go get a life.

>> No.59513884

>>59513730
Working for corporate is much more mentally stressful under all circumstances

>> No.59513953

>>59505833
japs being jews

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>>59509282
Go Back

>> No.59514251

>>59505833
Damn I just listened to the stream and now I feel bad for her
Poor Bae I hope she doesn't burn herself out. I've complained repeatedly this year that Cover has too many events and side projects for the girls and everyone called me a retard because >hurrdurr they're idols they have to do all that
I hope the girls get some time off projects to shill and do regular gaming streams that they can plan and schedule however it suits them best
I love the CouncilRyS girls and they're at their best when they're cheerful and relaxed. This whole recording stress already had an impact on Fauna and Kronii, IRyS is downright sick and now Bae is going throw a breakdown, this isn't what I want for my cute anime girl streamers

>> No.59514295

>>59507896
nothing indicates any change happened, it’s just general last-minute anxiety

>> No.59514519

>>59505833
I'm gonna be honest, I found her crying really cute because I'm probably a sicko however I also think it's sweet how seriously she's taking this entire 3D ordeal. It shows she genuinely cares

>> No.59514531

Regardless of whether you think vtubers are overworked, have you simply considered that people who are willing to LARP as 2d anime girls tend to be closer towards schizo than ordinary people? And that's ignoring the very real chance of being unmasked and stalked by anons.

>> No.59514544

>>59507896
They have to completely rerecord a whole segment because she had Irys on as a guest and since Irys has throathort right now they can no longer use that segment or else it'll spill the beans on all of the 3D showcases being prerecorded which they obviously are.

>> No.59515179

>>59514544
I kinda hate they still try to keep that "totally live!" kayfabe going on. It's so fucking obviously prerecorded, it's just hilarious sometimes (like Gura segments for Fauna and Mumei), with editing and camera work that's simply impossible to believe is live if you saw even a single stream of the girls playing around with their 3D. Getting hours of such content done in studio (showcases, concerts etc) is impressive enough on its own, just drop the pretense, especially if it ends up hurting the girls in the process.

>> No.59515206

>>59506656
>it's been long established that it's fine not to

tell that to those who’ve been complaining about the lack of streams from irys, mumei, ame, & gura

>> No.59515601

>>59514519
It's really wild to me just how much it's tearing Bae specifically apart when all the other girls just gave us the usual "I'm so nervous I hope you like it!"
Meanwhile Bae is here having panic attacks and crying on stream because of it

>> No.59515725

>>59507460
Yeah, and? What are you gonna do about it?

>> No.59515984

>>59513884
Millions of normies do it every day, your favorite whore isn't special just because she hides under an anime avatar

>> No.59516005

>>59507896
Bae is anxious since the 3D showcase is one of the bigger events in Hololive and several of the EN talents were also nervous.

>> No.59516251

>>59513230
Back to the cuck corner, nijisis

>> No.59516296

>>59506444
>Twitch streamers
>Doesn't produce songs
Who cares?

>> No.59516377

>>59516251
>bae thread
>calling nijis cucks
retard

>> No.59516433

>>59516377
Since when is this solely a bae thread

>> No.59516463

>>59516377
Seething at holochads won't make you less of a cuck

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>>59516433
>>59516463
THE MOST AUSSIE CONVERSATION EVER!!!!

>> No.59516703

>>59516556
I can't hear you over the sound of your oshi being plapped on stream

>> No.59516878

>>59511241
koyori isnt even a fluke anymore with ririka streaming just as much. completely shattered the illusion that they do so much work behind the scenes that they're overworked and can't stream

>> No.59517091

>>59516556
>9 months ago
>Nijicucks are getting cucked daily
Nice fucking self own retard kek

>> No.59517182

>>59506347
>sleep for hours or react to tiktok videos for hours
>streamers on twitch stream WAY MORE
ogey pogfag

>> No.59517267

>>59514531
Most people who become vtubers have already tried normal society jobs and failed, we're not getting society's best/mentally healthiest here

>> No.59517380

>>59512731
she said nothing like that. just that she got sent stuff to deal with while juggling other stuff and wanting to complete her dumb minecraft grinding and finding a chance to eat inbetween streams.

>> No.59517502

>>59511862
the crazies that anon is warning you about is himself.

>> No.59517895

>>59515984
millions of normies dont have a performance shown to thousand of viewers let alone have the pressure to do it as the best performer in EN. don’t forget the stupid meetings japanese corps do. normies in japan kill themselves over office jobs either willingfully of during work

>> No.59518010

>>59505833
I forgive gawr gura

>> No.59518016

>>59507049
I would just like to interject and say that Mumei also mentioned being insanely stressed about Holo work the weekend before her showcase in her members ASMR. So please try to use her as some example of "lul Mumei is a lazy whore and she does well and doesn't get stressed"
She was just as worried as Bae she just vented to members instead of bottling it up and crying

>> No.59518054

They're all fake God-damned cunts, Holo-tards are closeted cuckolds nothing new about this shit-heap board

And endless "OMGGGG SOO SORRY ABOUT GETTING FUCKED ON STREAMZ ORGZLMAO" awaits this whore enabler board as it should

>> No.59518134

>>59511998
She will never be good enough on account of her being a Tempus friendly Whore.

>> No.59518273

>>59518054
Seek mental help

>> No.59518340

>>59518054
You doing ok there buddy?

>> No.59518373

>>59505833
Women cry randomly all the time, it doesn't necessarily mean anything

>> No.59518390

>>59505833
>Are the girls being overworked by Cover?
lolno. Cover barely pushes their talent to work. 90% of Bae's workload is from shit she chose to do on her own. For example they aren't making her do a 3D showcase that's something she decided to do all by herself. It's her fault for trying to do more than she can handle. Also I blame male collabs.
>how?
Don't care. I just do.

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>>59518390
>they aren't making her do a 3D showcase that's something she decided to do all by herself
Yeah, right.

>> No.59518721

>>59505833
Bae probably puts more effort into her 3D simply because it plays to her strenght (dancing) and the 3D showcase always gives a boost. Big chance to show off to new people.

>> No.59518739

>>59518498
>Yeah, right.
Yes. Right. If you want a 3D showcase then you have to ask for it and hope Cover gives you studio time at some point during this decade.

>> No.59518774

>>59505833
Retard.

>> No.59518803

>>59518390
kronii and fauna will skip the 3d showcase in a heartbeat if given the chance anon

>> No.59518862

>>59518273
>>59518340
>proud cuck posting

>> No.59518934

>>59506287
>tyler1

>> No.59518997

>>59518721
>Big chance to show off to new people.
Bae put a hard ceiling on her growth when she made it clear she wanted to collab with males. Her showcase won't really help.

>>59518803
No Holo in their right mind would skip a 3D showcase since they're big events that typically drive numbers and most of them dream of having 3D anyway.

>> No.59519095

>>59518721
Basically this, also considering a super common criticism is basically "what is she even good for because her personality/voice aren't that notable" the common answer is she's supposed to be some amazing dancer/singer etc. So she probably puts extra pressure on herself with this seeing it as a make or break thing for her to be thought of more highly overall.

>> No.59519159

>>59518997
> collab with males
> numbers
> MOST of them dream of having a 3D

baseless assumptions shutup loser fag

>> No.59519163

>>59518803
Kronii maybe if her numbers weren't in the gutter and she didn't need it.
Fauna likes 3D way too much to skip something like that. If anything she might have been the most excited to work on it.

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>>59519159
>shutup
no

>> No.59519671

pity baiting. why not just stay on loading screen and say "something came up real quick"

>> No.59519749

>toiling away on the north Atlantic oil rig so you can financially support your oshi during her 2 hours of playing Minecraft

>> No.59519789

>>59505833
She cried because she thinks she won't be able to live up to her fans expectations and why she has been holding off on hyping up her 3D. I can guarantee you that her showcase will have an absurd amount of effort put into it and her worries are for naught. She's just a silly little rat who loves her fans too much

>> No.59520627

>>59505833
Which niji graduation?

>> No.59520965

>>59505833
>Zoomer rat who spent most her life locked up in her Dad's cuckshed suddenly overwhelmed with real life.
What a shock.

>> No.59520976

>>59507907
I personally am over it. Just feels like the magic died and they're forcing it. Nothing feels genuine anymore, and it seems some masks are slipping for some of them. There's some new bullshit each week or the streamer you like is going through something.
Its so tiring. I came into this hobby to have fun, not wallow in reality and get abused cuz girl can't handle a day in the real world. Like I said, that's just me though.

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>>59520976
Chumbud I'm so sorry. Get better taste in woman tho. Pic unrelated

>> No.59521341

>>59506746
MUH DICK

>> No.59521450

>>59507907
Biboo, Baubau and Fauna are fun

>> No.59521574

>>59505833
It doesn't even particularly have much to do with workload this time, she's just a patient of extreme anxiety and is unnecessarily downplaying herself and worrying about her first time 3D showcase going wrong. You have to remember that her literal dream is an eventual sololive and this is a major step towards that so I understand her nervosity. She takes this idol shit very seriously

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>>59506598
women crying makes me horny

>> No.59521676

>>59520976
>There's some new bullshit each week or the streamer you like is going through something
Unironically stop coming on here. I only check on here every few weeks when i'm bored on the weekend now, and it's amazing how much of the drama you dont even notice/isnt real that way

>> No.59521757

>>59507297
>you don't understand the STRUGGLE of not acting like a whore

>> No.59521909

>>59506287
Its not the streaming, its the office reps. There are holos that stream less than ten hours a week and still have their throat break.

>> No.59522118

>>59521574
>She takes this idol shit very seriously
roru

>> No.59522212

>>59522118
He's right, ignoring males doesn't magically make you an idol like /vt/ newfags have perpetuated.

>> No.59522566

>>59505888
Janny's on xir's period again?

>> No.59522592

>>59522118
Bae's probably the most traditional jp style idol in EN and takes her reps very seriously

>> No.59522660

>>59506229
If streaming is stressful for you to the point where it causes you problems with your life, maybe you shouldn't be a fucking streamer. Have you considered that, retard?

>> No.59522665

>>59506123
>deflection and virtue signal
Classic communist tactics

>> No.59522716

>Kaela made Bae cry unintentionally by making her stay on to get coral for her

>> No.59522776

This whole thing was a nothingburger. Stay off vt, all this drama stuff doesnt actually exist. Just enjoy chuubas

>> No.59522843

>>59522716
Kaela made me cry too by making me stay up an hour later than Bae intended to end the stream...

>> No.59522847

>>59522776
well said

>> No.59522867

Damn, if management has to force a sobbing EN girl to even play something as basic as fucking Minecraft it really explains why basically all of them have completely unacceptable streaming schedules.

>> No.59522898

>>59522843
She has this thing where she wants other people to all not sleep with her. I dont mean this in an anti way just some people cant keep up. And I think she kinda gets it based on what she said to Bijo the other day.

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>> No.59522934

>>59522776
>Stay off vt, all this drama stuff doesnt actually exist
>just go on YT and start the VOD to catch up
>see that all this drama stuff very much does actually exist

>> No.59523012

>>59522934
only /vt/ can turn a harmless girl crying from anxiety into drama

>> No.59523081

>>59516878
Yeah I'm only willing to believe that a handful actually have a consistently high workload behind the scenes. The others choose what works best for them or are just retarded and can't time manage. Most anons shit on react content but movie watchalongs are apparently fine and that's a piss easy way to get a couple stream hours.

>> No.59523137

>>59522660
thank you i will tell everyone that has stress in their job to resign

>> No.59523143

>>59523012
>I think I'm having a panic attack right now, but I don't have a choice
What a completely normal thing to say to start off your stream, definitely not worrying or dramatic at all.

>> No.59523232

>>59523143
she meant that she couldn't cancel the stream due to her respect foe her senpai and her honor code regarding the debt

>> No.59523409

>>59523232
holy based.

>> No.59523780

>>59523232
>Only EN to participate
>Even at her lowest point refused to drop out because she had a debt to pay
Living in Japan has changed her

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>>59505833
She needs to get the fuck out of Japan. She must be out of her mind if she genuinely wants to move there permanently. They will work her to the bone.

>> No.59524488

>>59523232
Ok I admit it, she's probably one of the best wives in hololive and I envy whoever gets her.

>> No.59524724

>>59523780
perfect rapebait desu

>> No.59524901

>made a song about drowning yourself
>said her worst fear is drowning in another crying stream
>now cried and said she feels like she's floating away
somebody keep this girl away from all large bodies of water

>> No.59524961

>>59505833
>Pity bait shit to recoup lost revenue and viewers
I thought you guys said Hololive doesn't do Niji tactics?

>> No.59525045

>>59523137
Good.

>> No.59525287

Man, I wish Gura gave half as much of a shit a Bae.

>> No.59525340

>>59524901
>Lives in Aussieland
Uhh good luck with that. She's probably more likely to get jumped by a gang of emus though

>> No.59525534

>>59525287
why?

>> No.59525572

>>59525534
probably because she's care at least a little bit to actually turn on the stream and talk to chat

>> No.59525651

>>59505833
any hololiver that trauma dumps to her community has failed at their job and should be forced to graduate. i'm here for the escapism to escape reality, not to hear about your fucking woman issues. jesus christ

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>>59507460
I don’t think it’s hot in the sexual sense, but women crying or being scared invokes a natural instinct in me to want to protect them.

>> No.59525764

>>59525655
>Picrel irony
Should have watched her songs on loop and bought her merch anon, you could have saved her

>> No.59525788

>>59525651
sorry but their main audience isnt some massive faggot loser like you. nobody wants to be associated with people like you, a loser

>> No.59525925

>>59525788
Hi Bae

>> No.59526019

>>59505833
she has been trying really hard and has been getting little returns from it,
having her 3D at last and after seeing how well the rest of council did, i understand her being stressed, she probably wants to perform on par with the rest and is worried about it.
but is not cover fault, it was just inevitable unless she stopped caring about being a streamer.
i guess with the stream close she wanted her chat to cheer her up a little.

>> No.59526018

>>59525925
Kronii maybe, Bae is not rude enough to call anyone a loser

>> No.59526063

>>59525764
I’m not an IRyStocrat, I just like posting images and that was a sort of fitting image.

>> No.59526072

>>59507460
Pekora is a psychopath now?

>> No.59526183

>>59526072
Always has been.

>> No.59527180

>>59523143
she also said she was fine multiple times and just overwhelmed

>> No.59527735

>>59526072
now?

>> No.59527852

>>59506746
it really is. its insane that they keep using retarded debuff voices. both kiara and suisei sound way better with their real voices too.

>> No.59528297

>>59511660
I guess some people are just built different. Pekora, Miko, Subaru, Fubuki, Korone, etc. have been doing this way longer than ENs and they have more off stream obligations than ENs but their streams are just as good as they've ever been.
It's unfortunate that ENs are taking after lazy whores like Ayame rather than the top JP girls. At least we now have some exceptions in Fuwamoco and Biboo, hopefully they can keep it up for years to come.

>> No.59528933

>>59527852
Stop.
You keep saying real voice, as if you don’t understand that Women have rhythmic voices that change that change tone accordingly with mood and intent. Anyone who’s watched more than one Suisei stream knows she shifts pitches like crazy depending on what’s happening or the joke she’s trying to deliver. Same goes with Bae. Getting mad that a woman isn’t constantly deep-voiced is the same as getting mad at their naturally large singing range.

>> No.59529129

>>59517895
>best performer in EN
>bae
the bar is in hell

>> No.59529263

>>59519671
Because she's a woman and wants money and attention.

>> No.59529506

>>59505833
isn't all the 3d showcase pre-recorded? why the fuck is she nervous?

I know they are acting like they are in japan during the 3d show case, but Kronii is obviously not in JP during her showcase but she acted like she is

>> No.59530045

>>59529506
Bae is actually in Japan and loves performing live so it's believable that at least some aspect, whether it be the singing or dancing, will be done live and paired with a prerecorded bit if not both

>> No.59530201

>>59505833
yes they are getting overworked to 1 stream a week

>> No.59530234

>>59505833
>overworked
They barely fucking stream you retard

>> No.59530279

>>59507692
>The vtubers I see on twitch sleep for HOURS on stream.
sleeping just normal. you want them to not sleep?

>Its just lazier content. Maybe they will watch videos to react to for hours as well.
dont watch subathons if you dont want to see streams that are live 24hours a day with a lot of filler shit. are you fucking stupid?

>Anyone streaming over 4 hours isnt putting effort into making their content entertaining.
i like how you try shitting on twitch streamers but end up throwing a bunch of holos under the bus. im gonna guess youre just a clip watcher

>> No.59530383

>>59507460
So why couldn't she push back the stream? She just stated she couldn't.

>> No.59530657

>>59505833
what use is having a manager and team behind the talents if all the fucking work is pushed onto their shoulders? where the fuck is the cover cut going if not helping in these situations?

How can they allow streaming, which is the main thing, be affected this hard by the sideline shit?

At the very least management is retarded, in the worst its downright maliciously taking away mkney from the girl's hard work.

>> No.59530668

>>59505833
>Are the girls being overworked by Cover?
All I'll say is that Fauna took an extended break and hinted at being worn out recently. These Japan arcs seem hard on everyone.

>> No.59530792

>>59505833
EN not even once

>> No.59530886

>>59522867
it wasnt cover forcing her, she couldnt postpone the stream because it was a collab, but for cover to put this much stress on the talent when they have a fucking team dedicated to not letting that happen is fucking insane.

it wouldnt surprise me one bit if 80% of cover workers have nothing to do most of the day while 20%, which includes the talents, have to handle all the shit.

thats textbook shit management

>> No.59530990

>>59530234
I was thinking the same, do these trolls even watch streams?

The bait is getting weaker and the rrats are getting skinnier.

>> No.59531029

>>59528297
To be fair, The JP side doesn't have to fly across the world and fuck up their entire sleep schedule and personal life every other month.

>> No.59531067

>>59505833
the talents need to form a union. Kill all black companies

>> No.59531085

>>59529129
she absolutely owned holofes though

>> No.59531124

>>59530234
Unlike twitch whores, Holos have to do other things besides streaming. This goes doubly for HoloEN who have to travel across half the world to get in the studio.

>> No.59531276

>>59530279
you're either retarded or your bait is too bad.

the point is that you cant say that tsitch chuubas are better because they stream more, when their streams are just react content or other extremely lazy shit

hololive has to actually bother to be entertaining

>> No.59531341

>>59530279
>sleeping is normal, you want to not sleep
at what moment did this soubd like a good comeback/argument? are making an effort to look retarded?

>> No.59531355

>>59531276
Anything outside of a scripted, edited video is lazy. And gaming streams are still react content with extra steps.

>> No.59531415

>>59530383
See >>59523232

>> No.59531461

>>59507907
It wasn't fun for a while since the debut of Council, the boring normie gen. But Advent got me back into it

>> No.59532122

>>59514544
>since Irys has throathort right now
She had throathort when she was on Fauna's too, idk why that's a problem

>> No.59532294

>>59530201
well in bae case she has streamed 6 times in the last 7 days while also preparing her 3D debut, so that dont apply to her.

>> No.59532436

>>59505833
naw, Bae's just a workaholic who can't say no. Also, Gura exists.

>> No.59532465

>>59513391
Maybe when they fuck up her flights or stuff like that. Mori works hard and streams consistently

>> No.59532617

>>59532122
Fauna was pre recorded. Bae is going to stream some segments live just like irys

>> No.59533223

Holy shit the breakdown at the start of her minecraft stream will be perfect for my next MuBae domestic abuse soundpost

>> No.59533341

>>59533223
>next
gwuh

>> No.59533543

>>59509148
I mean I think it's a fair assumption. If there is a Stars appearance and the viewers drop off like a rock I can see that really stressing her out. It's magnified by all the other CouncilRyS 3Ds being received extremely well so far so if hers bombs because of a Stars collab it looks even worse in comparison.

>> No.59533807

>>59533341
https://vocaroo.com/1lGNvGbp0L5n

>> No.59533826

>>59533543
foul air whistled past yellow grime caked teeth as this post was being typed

>> No.59533890

>>59533826
Thems some pretty words for a fagit. Now pucker up dem lips for tempiss boy

>> No.59533996

>>59533826
Nice response failed author anon, now explain why the idea was wrong

>> No.59534096

>>59533807
kek, it really is perfect for that

>> No.59534726

>>59533807
holy kino almighty

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>>59509205
>>59509121
jesus christ...

>> No.59538610

>>59507631
Markiplier occasionally streams on youtube and twitch. If he has the time for it, he would even have weekly membership streams on youtube.

>> No.59538725

>>59506229
There are literally league streamers that stream the game almost DAILY and are perfectly sane, chill and happy i'm not talking about the meme ones like T1 just random guys who like playing.
they are playing one of the most mentally destroying games on the planet and have fun doing it daily.

>> No.59539044

>>59517380
>she said nothing like that
?????????????????????
it was literally one of the first sentences in the stream???????????????????
literally verbatim
>I'm having a panic attack
how does nobody else bother correcting retarded posts like this I have literally never watched Bae once but the link is literally in the thread and skipping past an intro takes literal moments

>> No.59539582

>>59507460
>He never makes his woman cry on the bed while fuck her senselessly
Seems like a skill issue for me

>> No.59539801

>>59528933
>as if you don’t understand that Women have rhythmic voices that change that change tone accordingly with mood and intent.

DYRBI

>> No.59539969

>>59528933
>Women have rhythmic voices that change that change tone accordingly with mood and intent
That's not unique to women and if you weren't autistic you'd know how to do it too.

>> No.59540063

>>59529506
>isn't all the 3d showcase pre-recorded?
no, fauna literally read chat in hers
they’re pre-recorded for the talentless fucks who can’t pull it off live
actual idols like Sora straight up refuse to do pre-recorded performances

>> No.59540134

>>59506746
HOLY SEX
GET PRESSED
GET PRESSED
GET PRESSED

>> No.59540193

>>59529506
no faggot
only council do their "live show" live.

>> No.59540360

>>59506444
It happens all the time actually.
You wouldn't know because you don't watch Twitch streamers. That doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

>> No.59541390

>>59531085
That's not saying much.

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>>59509282
Hey, Elliot Rodger here by the way.

>> No.59543793

How do you think Matsuri reacted to her breaking down? She was there in the chat.

>> No.59543959

>>59543793
probably roughly like this >>59540134

>> No.59544066

>>59541967
Do you think that if an Amazonian futa was there to show him the pleasure of being cummed inside, the ebin pranks could’ve been avoided?

>> No.59544163

>>59506229
Yeah I wouldn't wanna be important to be posted here. That's basically a threat to your life.

>> No.59544216

>>59543959
What if her presence only made the rat more distressed because it’s triggering the menhera sexual harassment and mouth rape ptsd?

>> No.59544271

Maybe she on period haha we woman

>> No.59544405

>>59544271
Wouldn’t it be gross if someone accidentally stumble upon her trash bag with the red gold inside? haha

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https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1707953424434663635
This pretty much confirms what she's gonna do tomorrow for the showcase, stupid rat has been biting way more than she can chew, if one thing has gone wrong during the recording of course it would be a big fucking hassle and very stressful for her and the staff to carry out a fix.
She's going to do a multi man choreo by herself. And no it is not going to be some silly skit like Kronii did.

>> No.59544701

>>59538725
>league streamers that stream the game almost DAILY and are perfectly sane, chill and happy

I would not call anybody who willingly streams League of Legends daily "perfectly sane", anon.

>> No.59544729

>>59544520
My zoomer rat needs a hit of PCP.

>> No.59544753

>>59544520
lmao4rat

>> No.59544780

>>59544520
Yeah I figured. She probably did the same thing she did during future star and she's gonna be her own back up dancer during songs that require multiple people

>> No.59544858

>>59544066
It would have had to be ronantic. Not realistic a dom woman is interested in 1 autistic kid, so no. The day of vengeance has come.

>> No.59544895

>>59544701
Anon, please, it’s 21st century, homosexuality should no longer be seen as a mental illness.

>> No.59545008

>>59544858
I can’t be the only one wanting a piece of that menhera twink ass.

>> No.59545017

>>59539044
the operative word for the discussion was problems dumbass.

>> No.59545018

>>59544520
>bae doing all the choreo by herself
>there will be at least 4 bae thats gonna perform on stage

holy moly thats why shes stresssed out

>> No.59545075

>>59545018
Mitosis is an extremely stressful process

>> No.59545164

>>59544520
>All the other girls were ill from stress just from doing their regular 3D lives
>Bae is planning to do that x5
I can see why she was having a panic attack over something going wrong over this now holy shit, that rat really does push herself for her fans

>> No.59545192

>>59543959
How can we trust matsuri to not take advantage of her at her most vulnerable moment?

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>>59545008
What are you?

>> No.59545260

>>59505833
>talks about how many projects shes working on offscreen
>they turn out to be true and actually delivers
other chuubas for this feel?

>> No.59545291

>>59533807
kek, it is great

>> No.59545317

>>59545193
You know when people get the chills and then they pucker up?

>> No.59545357

>>59545018
The multi-Gura segment of Gura’s showcase looked difficult to put together, I can’t imagine how much of an issue it can be when Bae has previously said that mocap doesn’t pick up some of her more subtle movements, or her history of her routines getting mangled by incompetent camerawork.

>> No.59545425

>>59528297
Biboo already states she wants to enjoy this period the most she can, because eventually she will have more idol duties and streams will suffer a bit.

>> No.59545451

>>59533807
Was this supposed to make me turgid?

>> No.59545546

>>59545260
Hakos Baelz

>> No.59545555

>>59533807
>Mumei as a forceful lover

HNNNGGG

>> No.59545633

>>59545317
N-no..?

>> No.59545737

>>59545633
Well, you’ll know it when it happens.

>> No.59545920

>>59545737
Least degenerate Bae fan?

>> No.59545977

>>59544520
whattt omg my bae... will she really be able to pull it out?

>> No.59546031

>>59545017
okay but she never specified exactly why she had a panic attack and in fact was intentionally vague about the exact details if you relisten, so assuming what caused it in general is irrational but also genuinely irrelevant because what she does specify time and time again is that she found herself into a situation where she believed(maybe due to being emotionally unstable at the time, but that is an assumption too and a rather rude one) that she couldn't justify even 10 minutes to spare for crying offstream.
A 10 minute delay is not good, but it's definitely better than openly having a panic attack and breaking down on stream(and she clearly knew it would happen because she was mid panic attack and decided to start anyway). There is no realistic reason for someone who clearly values professionalism to opt for openly weeping live as opposed to a 10 minute delay

>> No.59546086

>>59545977
Bae isn't know for her pull out game

>> No.59546229

>>59546086
kek
now im imagining her doing selfcest

>> No.59546275

>>59546031
She didn't really have a choice, the event she was participating in was officially organized by her HoloJP senpai and all participants started at the same time, yes she could drop out but that would also be disrespectful to them so she went live in that state. She even says she tried crying quickly before the stream started but her tears weren't coming. Also crying and letting it out in the long run was better for her

>> No.59546303

>>59546031
Meme format:
>female panic attack
Vs
>male panic attack

>> No.59546721

>>59506903
They're all unironic numberfags. It's clea no one forces them to stream so much or release songs and projects other than the bare minimum anniversary or group collab stuff. But there's probably a lot of financial incentives and alot of their own ego tied to numbers while simultaneously the pressure feels more and more unbearable the more peope are watching. I mean imagine doing a 3d live and you fart or shit yourself in middle of it, or there's some tech issues. I remember even Okayu almost ugly sob crying live because of her 3d live had tech issues that took like 30 min to resolve. So they want numbers but bigger numbers make them more nervous/tense for live stuff, I guess you could say numberfagging is making them schizo.

>> No.59546943

>>59546303
>male testicular torsion

vs

>female testicular torsion

>> No.59547182

>>59546031
she didn't start the stream crying, she tried to take a deep breath and fight it but shortly after she started to talk it came out.
clearly she already tried to calm herself before starting and she still sounded a little down but good enough when she started streaming.

>> No.59547537

>>59546943
Same dynamic. Well done..

>> No.59547973

>>59506123
>nijinigger deflection
smart
by pretending to be a holofan you deflect from the topic at hand

>> No.59547980

>>59547537
By female testicular torsion I meant a sexy futa, in which case I’d fap to it.

>> No.59549057

>>59547182
>shortly
she was already still in it as soon as she exhaled, her voice was already trembling with first words. I don't think Bae is retarded, and breathing is the most common tactic by far used to try and calm down, so I assume she probably tried it before she did it live too and obviously it didn't work then either(since she was still in it as she started)
I get variable reasons for potential time restrictions but I cannot see a person go live in spite of being so clearly aware of their incredibly compromised emotional state all because they couldn't afford an overextended bathroom breaks worth of delay to calm themselves and think that they're in a good spot and that there isn't something wrong with something in their life

>> No.59549245

>>59505833
>Are the girls being overworked by Cover?
They set their own schedules and income. Bae can't hang lmfao.

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