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59492206 No.59492206 [Reply] [Original]

I'm starting to think some of you guys are actually mad at Shiori and not just shitposting for fun

>> No.59492292
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>>59492206
It's both. A few genuine unicorns and a bunch of catalog shitters trying to race each other for the most (You)s. Either way it's all the same old same old stuff. I give it 2-3 days until they move on to something else.

>> No.59492326

>>59492206
I bet, it's just sisters false flagging

>> No.59492342

>>59492206
It's about not wanting to be perceived as cucks by the public even in the slightest. The textbook definition of cuck has nothing to do with this

>> No.59492368

>>59492206
How can anyone after all the red flags on debut? Everyone knew this would happen.

>> No.59492400

>>59492206
It's schizos from discord.
They start as shitpost but they get too invested and end up genuinely mad.

>> No.59492405

>>56942206
I don't hate girls for their collab choices. I hate girls who do GFE and then collab with males. GFE will always be a big red flag.

>> No.59492477
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>>59492206
I'm sure there are people who genuinely mad. They're distinctly minority and doesn't matter
Grudgeposters, numbershitters, and drivebys are louder. Much louder.

>> No.59492550

>>59492206
There are some actual mentally challenged anons who can't separate who actually think a professional work tweet means they are fucking.
Vast majority are just shitposters/jealous 2views/ only here for the drama rather than streams/etc

>> No.59492598

>>59492405
gfe?

sorry I missclicked on this board and I'm now invested in this drama

>> No.59492602

>>59492550
>a professional work tweet
why did he do it anyway? what was his intention?

>> No.59492606

There is literally no difference between the two for SEA people

>> No.59492680

>>59492598
GFE is girlfriend experience
basically VTuber pretending to be your girlfriend during stream
GFEschizos somehow think this standard should apply outside streams as well. But not without reason. Some VTuber does act like clingy girlfriend outside stream too which fuel the cursed cycle.
Prime #1 example is Rushia/Mikeneko/Nazuna (all same person). She's not the only one, but she's the most famous and prominent example of GFE gone wrong.

>> No.59492718

The shitposters who falseflag as unicorns have spurned some actual social retards into thinking that being mad at a tweet towards a male is the expected and appropriate response on /vt/.

Textbook example of act like an idiot and the idiots think they are in good company.

>> No.59492724

>>59492550
>professional work tweet
That sure looks professional, not just two good friends responding to each other

>> No.59492731

>>59492680
>Rushia/Mikeneko/Nazuna (all same person)
You forgot Koito Ria (also same person).

>> No.59492735

>>59492206
Who's Shiori

>> No.59492758

>>59492206
who the fuck would agree with her killing off her career by interacting with some fucking tranny faggot leech?

>> No.59492759

>>59492550
>>59492718
bla bla bla

>> No.59492779

https://streamable.com/9bsmsy
https://streamable.com/j8wdb7
https://streamable.com/dhx2c0
https://streamable.com/s0ntu0
https://streamable.com/op07zr

>> No.59492780
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>>59492206
idc, as long as it all stays in this place. break containment and you'll become the biggest faggot and should kill yourself.

>> No.59492799
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>>59492680
I see thanks

>> No.59492809

don't care who's right or wrong, the fact that Tempus is leeching doesn't change

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>>59492206

>> No.59492827

>>59492779
True ntr enjoyer

>> No.59492855

They were mad at Kiara like for a week because she thanked some of the homos who replied to her sick tweets. It'll pass by.

>> No.59492874

>>59492779
my dick is diamond, sasuga NTR queen

>> No.59492930

>>59492779
>Became increasingly affectionate just to cuck them all
Horrible woman with a horrible personality, they were warned.

>> No.59493001

>>59492930
This was expected of her touristchama

>> No.59493008

>>59492602
As someone who has actually watched Flayon streams unlike 99% of the shitters on this board that are roleplaying, he probably just genuinely liked her post and he is addicted to twitter. Also far too autistic to consider the optics.

>> No.59493023

>>59492206
Man, the intelligence level on this board has decreased overtime...

>> No.59493046

>>59492779
Kek, she was telling them all along
Full gosling suicide
https://streamable.com/uo9kdr
Made them say the name of her husbandos for affection
https://streamable.com/52gjuh
She trains the cucks well

>> No.59493071

>>59492780
Too late for that one, you should see the few replies, actual mental retardation

>> No.59493145

>>59492779
>>59493046
i might start watching her afterall
also don't insult cucks, ntr is hot

>> No.59493179

That's all? Call me when she starts collabing with them.

>> No.59493214

>>59492780
I'm guessing you didn't see the SC some Mexican sent her

>> No.59493223

>>59493179
If she's tweeting at them, she's on discord messaging them. It won't be long.

>> No.59493268

>>59493223
So where's Kiara's collab?

>> No.59493315

>>59492405
Holobronies who unironically thought Shiori is "GFE" are fucked in the head.

>> No.59493323

>>59492206
and mad enough to cherry pick every single bad apple coming out of her but hey mori and kiara got so much worse than this, this just a mere childplay

>> No.59493334

>>59493315
Pretty sure it was a psyop

>> No.59493368

>>59492292
Anon, it's been like this since here debut.

>> No.59493371

>>59493315
Goslings are the most retarded kind in this board. Jumping from chuuba to chuuba. Maybe now they'll fuck off back to ame or go to Nerissa next

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>>59492206
Nice deflection, Cover shill.

You forgot to say that Kronii and Rushia were a nothingburger as well.

>> No.59493386
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It's false flagging. Shiori made her position clear at debut. As a CGDCTfag, I would prefer people like her aren't in the company to begin with, but this is the next best thing. She didn't lie and rope people in like Kronii or Ame. She didn't wait till after she had sold tons of profitable merch. Everyone going in was warned or too stupid to see, so I have no sympathy for them. She did it the "right" way, if there is such a thing. This is just to make all CGDCTfags and gachikoi look like "unicorn incels" so dramafags can make a "4CHAN BACKLASH TO HOLOLIVE VTUBER" video that will then be watched by tons of people in Jakarta.

>> No.59493414

I'm out of the loop, did she finally announce a male collab or what?

>> No.59493424

>>59493371
Why would they go back to Ame when she's done worse than Shiori so far?

>> No.59493430

>>59492206
naaah

>> No.59493463

Anyone familiar with get PL knew what they were in for from day 1. There's a reason she's the runt of the gen. This was expected from her.

>> No.59493483

>>59493414
She said "thank you" to Flayon on Twitter because he praised her piano playing, that's it

>> No.59493517

>>59493483
Oh okay. I'm very anti-male and anti-eceleb but even I don't find that to be worth talking about.

>> No.59493523

>>59493386
>This is just to make all CGDCTfags and gachikoi look like "unicorn incels"
Which is exactly what they are? How can you even be a gachikoi for a random internet women with boyfriends anyway?

>> No.59493527

>>59492731
>You forgot Koito Ria (also same person).
Legit for a moment I went "Who" then I remember her voice acting career(?)

>> No.59493566

at this rate gosling is gonna turn into a symbol of cuckolding

>> No.59493571

>>59493523
>How can you even be a gachikoi for a random internet women with boyfriends anyway?
See. That's the actual cucks. As in the dictonary definition of a cuck.
People here use cucks as insult for anyone who disagree with Unicorn position instead.

>> No.59493575

>>59493483
is that it? christ bring me back to 2021 when mori collab with TT, this is boring

>> No.59493608

>>59493566
You are far too late for that. It already happened with Ame.

>> No.59493618

>>59492206
https://youtu.be/cRNX34Qxaag

>> No.59493642

>>59493608
How exactly are teamates getting cucked? Because a year ago she had a worms tournament with some stars or because she filled Kronii's empty slot for a mixed monopoly collab?
That's it?

>> No.59493643

>>59493483
Oh, that's it? That's boring.
I guess catalog SEAs need some drama to talk about

>> No.59493647

>>59493386
>Shiori made her position clear at debut
Did she really though? And vagueness of what exactly it was she was trying to say aside, she then lept head first into some of the most pandering style GFE anyone in holoEN has done, she spends hours in her prechat addressing chatters by name, gives kisses, calls herself their girlfriend and talks about being exclusive with them, she is long in the tooth enough to know what she is doing is simply not compatible with male collabs, and if she thinks she can train her chat to be the exception to that then she is probably overestimating her abilities.

>> No.59493664

>>59492206
Mad about what?

>> No.59493679

>>59493642
Or her lovey duet with Altare, or her "improve yourselves" moment

>> No.59493680

>>59492206
She literally cheated on me.

>> No.59493682

>>59493642
Nah, apparently they're mad about her cheering for Altare and used his song for karaoke

>> No.59493716

>>59493647
She probably thinks mentioning fictional males or her male friends equate to people being okay with her having male collabs. Hopefully she found out today how wrong she really is. If not, she's got a rude awakening.

>> No.59493720

>>59493145
kill yourself subhuman trash

>> No.59493817

>>59493720
no u

>> No.59493829

>>59492206
Two years ago this would've generated a thread or two and that's it. Just goes to show you how badly a board can deteriorate if you don't rangeban SEA.

>> No.59493857
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>>59493642
That plus love song with Altare, Astroneer where Axel flirted with her and a gartic phone collab with Stars JP where she lusted for Shien the entire time.
(The latter even spawned memes for a while)

>> No.59493891

>>59493829
they will not rangeban the entire region with 700 million people just because you cry about it, seethe

>> No.59493919

>>59493857
I miss when JP stars were the worst we had to worry about. They're practically clean and safe in comparison to the EN fucks.

>> No.59493920

>>59493829
It was waaaaaaay worse back then newfag

>> No.59493925

Lol people have been seething about advent since their debuts they were definitely not fans then, it's the same 4 discord niggers larping as unicorns and getting mad about them genuan mental illness.

>> No.59493941

>>59493919
Except Roberu and Astel

>> No.59493942

>>59493857
>>>/vt//wg/

>> No.59493947

>>59493925
English.

>> No.59493967

>>59493046
jesas the second clip sounds like intentional cuckbaiting with the way she words it

>> No.59493970

>>59493046
>https://streamable.com/52gjuh
And nijisisters were saying Fuwamoco were teletubbies with tits when shit like this exists? I feel my braincells dying...

>> No.59493987

>>59492206
What I hate the most about Holo EN in general is their CGDCT vibe going for that JP angle that they started forcing since Gen 3. It was all fine and dandy until Luxiem blew up and then all of a sudden it became "we MUST debut males, IMPROVE YOURSELVES!".
I hate any business that betrays it's customers like that.
>>59492292
How the fuck can Shiori even have unicorns as fans? Like it's technically not possible unless they literally came from another planet 2 weeks ago.

>> No.59493993

>>59493857
Can't keep a straight girl down

>> No.59494014

She's genuinely unfunny and has an annoying and autistic sounding voice. Everytime she talks I cringe.

>> No.59494020

>>59492206
Yeah lol

We all actually love Holostars and male vtuberscin general ;)

>> No.59494039

>>59493941
Doesn't Roberu mostly collab outside Holopro? All the bitches he gets are external, minus rat.

>> No.59494051

>>59493942
Keep trying to damage control, go watch those streams before posting. They are there for anyone to watch it.

>> No.59494097

>>59493967
>intentional cuckbaiting
As opposed to accidental cuckbaiting which does not exist?

>> No.59494140
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>>59494020
This but unironically like you made it sound.

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>>59493223

>> No.59494192

>>59492206
Why would you even assume that no fans are angry in the first place
This is the UNICORN BOARD
People here generally speaking are genuine more often than they shitpost

>> No.59494196

>>59492809
Based and same tbdesu

>> No.59494238
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>>59493517
It became spammed and shitposted because for some reason the homo has fans like this. They were drawing/writing ntr fanfics for months and finally got a crumb of relevance. No one is legitimately mad.

>> No.59494245

>>59492292
Fpbp

>> No.59494267

Shiori has shown her preference for males over other girls outside of Advent. That's what she meant by collab choices. She will not collab with women, she will collab with men exclusively. If you do not take this as the reddest flag you can get, you have no right to cry when it happens.

>> No.59494321

>>59492206
the shiorians and their overlord Shiori are the worst thing to happen to Hololive since Rushia and the fandead

>> No.59494460

>>59494014
This. Her voice is so shitty for that model

>> No.59494476

>>59494097
a lot of the thingsshiori says can be taken as cuckbaiting but are very likely just her having no filter and being an autist so yes accidental cuckbaiting does exist when it comes to shiori. or maybe its better to call it schrodingers cuckbaiting

>> No.59494554

>>59494014
You can just tell she never had any proper friends since everyone would've been put off by how awkward she is. I'd say she was just unlucky that she never bumped into a single genuinely good person that would have the patience to be her friend. She probably spent her life inserting herself into male groups online that would give her attention just because she was a girl online, and not because they actually cared about her hobbies/interests.

>> No.59494560

>>59493483
No she actually said
>thank you~

>> No.59494636

>>59494476
This copium is not healthy

>> No.59494677

>>59492206
Another discord raid, whether its phase or idol this time just toss a coin at the end of the day its the same shit

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>>59492206
her cuckold fans been shilling her as this unicorn-friendly(?) chuuba for whatever reason
tricking tourists into watching her

>> No.59494766

>>59492206
I never lied in this site, if you think it's shitpost it's your problem

>> No.59494927

>>59493523
>Shioro
>3k
>Miko
>25k
>Pekora
>30k
>Subaru
>20k
Just look at the market and you'll see that majority prefer the unicorn friendly even though apparently unicorns are the minority

>> No.59494941

>>59493941
No, for all the memes of them being fuckboys they're harmless. And mostly collab outside anyway.

>> No.59494980

>>59492206
They wanted a Shiori yab so much they will hype up even the most miniscule thing.
You can't reason with schizos, you throw them in padded cells and hope they die by themselves

>> No.59495023

>>59492206
>it's just /here/
Explain why she's the runt then

>> No.59495038
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It's all natural outrage and not at all forced by the homo's weird fanbase

>> No.59495042

>>59494927
Famously unicorn friendly Subaru

>> No.59495068

>>59494927
Not saying you're wrong, but this isn't a fair comparison since the EN and JP audience are not the same size.

>> No.59495150

>>59492206
Lol I feel this way about Shiori’s “Parasocials”, “Unicorns”. Those have to be falseflaggers and not real right

>> No.59495383

>>59493987
>How the fuck can Shiori even have unicorns as fans? Like it's technically not possible unless they literally came from another planet 2 weeks ago.
Just like some other holomems, there are a few of their fanbases that can't accept that they're doing some GFE content and not be "unicorn friendly". It's funny because even Mori and Bae has done GFE content occasionally despite being fine interacting with guys

>> No.59495424

>>59495038
>posting a screenshot from a 4chan-lite, shitposting subreddit and taking it as facts
holy fucking kek

>> No.59495446

>>59492799
If you're from /a/, it's similar to the entire thing with love live's fandom.

>> No.59495487

>>59494927
>Pekora
Unicorn friendly.
Just admit you never watched JP

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>>59495424
Weird damage control homo bro

>> No.59495597

>>59495042
>>59495487
EOP or clipfag

>> No.59495640

>>59495487
>Manhandled by hypnotist ojisama
Kek

>> No.59495786

>>59495500
why are you scared of showing which reddit it came from?

>> No.59495789

>>59495383
Ah yes, Bae's clearly labelled RP stream she does like once a year is somehow comparable to Shiori going hard into it since debut and even ramping it up.
One is a GFE streamer one isn't, realistically Shiori is the ONLY gfe streamer in holoEN. That's the difference. Also unicorn and "unicorn friendly" has lost all meaning on this board but what she is doing is farming and encouraging gachis with heavy GFE and trying to mix homo collabs into that formula is going to blow up in her face if she ends up doing it.

>> No.59495848

>>59494051
>>>/vt//wg/
>>>/vt//NijiEN/

>> No.59495862

>>59494238
flayon knew what he was doing he followed that artist and everything

>> No.59495864

>>59495500
That place has true fags and troons behind those "shitpost"

>> No.59495903

>>59494554
Man this just makes me sad

>> No.59495921

>>59492206
This had happened for hours earlier and there were no threads about this shit until prime SEA hours.
Fancy that.

>> No.59495971

>>59495786
It's okbuddyhololive. Most of the cuckposters/shitposters come from there

>> No.59495979

>>59492206
Did they delete their replies I can't see them anymore?

>> No.59496169

>>59492206
>I'm starting to think
No, shitpost first think later

>> No.59496202

>>59494554
>You can just tell she never had any proper friends
Pfffffhahahhahahah
You virgins are something else

>> No.59496242
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59496242

I think like some guys fucked up their lives with drugs, gambling and hookers. Shiori can't help herself with her NTR fetish, she did all that GFE stuff so the kick from when the cucking begins will be stronger, even if destroy her career.
She is so cumbrained she forgot mostly people don't behave like a NTR doujin MC and would fuck off if she starts doing cuck shit.

>> No.59496248

>>59494238
Why does Shiori look so godawful in this art?

>> No.59496351

Did she finally announce a man collab? I just got here.

>> No.59496380

>>59494560
Oh shit, that changes everything. They’re literally fucking bros…

>> No.59496410

>>59496248
Homo artist

>> No.59496428
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>>59492206
Fuck you faggot, go back.
>i-it’s just a tilde!
picrel

>> No.59496445

>>59496351
She said thanks to the guy on xitter, homofans from reddit have proceeded to spam and falseflag for hours. >>59495500

>> No.59496531

>>59495862
You already have stuff to be mad about, there's no need to make up lies

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>>59493483
That's it? I thought she'd announced a collab or something. Fucking hell, is this really all it takes to get some of you riled up? A fucking “Thank You” tweet?
Newfags actually need the rope, god help you if a true yab happens at any point you'll probably shoot up a school or something.

>> No.59496673

>>59496599
It's 90% shitposters from okbuddyhololive who obsessively post coomer "satire" posts about Shirori and Flayon fucking. >>59495038

>> No.59496742

>>59496673
Fuck, I hate Reddit. I thought 4chan were the retards?

>> No.59496928

>>59496599
Of course, bro. No need to get suspicious. She just flirts with him a bit, that's it.
Now send her more superchats.

>> No.59496933

>>59496742
We're the same fucking retards, retard!

>> No.59496992

>https://twitter.com/DougBongos/status/1707570238655447110
I hate Twitter.

>> No.59497031

>>59492206
If you didn't take all the warning signs, you are into whatever she does. Everything you read here is a shitpost.

>> No.59497040

>>59492292
Homosisters love coping like this, they always say “muh everyone i disagree with is a falseflagger”

>> No.59497094

>>59492206
I’m genuinely upset, if she collabs with any of the homos, i will become a dedicated schizo anti

>> No.59497121

>>59496928
>Now send her more superchats
I don't watch Shiori. I watch JP you colossal faggot. This shit is so weak it's comical, take your meds and post when there's a true yab to speak about

>> No.59497127

>>59492292
Why do people want replies so much, and go so far as to shitpost? Are their lives that empty? Can they not do anything fulfilling?

>> No.59497181

>>59496599
I mean Gura is the poster girl for EN unicorns and she's still never even acknowledged the existence of Tempus or followed any of the holostars on twitter.

>> No.59497178

>>59492206
I don't hate shiori, but her fanbase is insufferable.

>> No.59497203

>>59496928
>flirts
Why are homofags like this?

>> No.59497239

>>59497203
Because people that post like that unironically think life is like a NTR Doujinshi

>> No.59497240

>>59492598
What board are you hailing from?

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59497288

>>59497094
Bro just sell right now and run for the Fuwamoco hills.
I'm serious right now, no shitposting. If you stay after this final warning shot, you only have yourself to blame. No one will even take your zchizo babble seriously in the future. No one. Because everyone saw it coming, even the most dense retards on /vt/ can't be so unfathomably retarded to ignore the mountan of red flags, the fucking arsenal of Checkov's guns on the wall.
Not into NTR? Fucking sell.

>> No.59497297

>>59492292
>>59492477
>>59492550

>> No.59497350

>>59497288
fuck off Poppo, you ain't getting my stars

>> No.59497374

>>59497203
>>59496428

>> No.59497406

>>59497239
America has a 71% infidelity rate

>> No.59497519

>>59492206
I hope Shiori can keep this up for two more years at least. Keep edging us on male collabs but never actually do it, god that would be so hot.

>> No.59497524

>>59497203
>>59496428

>> No.59497589

>>59496992
>Actual sane x user

>> No.59497598

>>59497406
Infidelity=/= NTR
Even hentai sites now have separate tags "cheating" and "netorare"

>> No.59497615

>>59497374
>>59497524
Check some of her other tweets, she ends replies to a lot of people with a tilde faggot

>> No.59497617
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59497617

>>59493046
>my bros I'm literally in your walls
based oreo woman calling out /vt/schizos

>> No.59497620

>>59497598
It's the same fucking shit

>> No.59497662

>>59497615
And that somehow means she weren't playful or flirty in those tweets, right? Retard.

>> No.59497718

>>59497662
Bitch it was literally the most vanilla reply possible

>> No.59497742

>>59496992
I love Twitter. More male collabs

>> No.59497798

>>59497718
It's about how you say it, dense motherfucker.

>> No.59497808

>>59496599
>shooting a school because your oshi betrayed you
Beyond based

>> No.59497851

>>59497798
>It's about how you say it
>literally just says "thank you" and uses the same tilde she uses in other replies

>> No.59497906

>>59497851
You don't get to decide that tilde means absolutely nothing just because she uses it all the time you mongoloid.

>> No.59497964

>>59497906
anon, please stop jumping at shadows, you're embarrassing yourself

>> No.59497972 [DELETED] 

FOUR (4) EXES
>4
4
>4
4

840hcp

Literally why would you want GFE from this woman? much less oshi her?

>> No.59497994

>>59497972
Used goods are hot

>> No.59498001

>>59493618
I can't stop fapping to this

>> No.59498005

>>59497906
>Getting this worked up over an ascii character
If you're pretending to be retarded you can stop now. We beleive you.

>> No.59498060

>>59496933
>we
Actually, it'd be cool if you went back or killed yourself!

>> No.59498133

>>59497964
>>59498005
>I concede
Ok

>> No.59498171

>>59494560
the ~ is literally a whistleblow to tell non-unicorns that they fucked
by ~ she means his dick, therefore, by thanking his dick, she's implying they fucked
sorry to break it to yuo oreocucks

>> No.59498190

>>59498133
Oh you're actually retarded, OK

>> No.59498300

>>59498190
You literally have nothing to add to this conversation. Go back into you cuckshed.

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>>59497181
gura has some fucked up insecurities and probably think that she would become a 3 view if she even acknoleged the existence of homos
Funny enough that same imposter symdrome is probably making her think that she wil say something retard if she streams and shell be banned from being a chuuba or wathever

>> No.59498362

>>59497615
>She wasn’t cucking me once, she was actually cucking me all the time so eat it chuds haha!

>> No.59498507

Who?

>> No.59498659

>>59498300
less of a conversation and more watching in bewilderment as someone throws a tantrum over punctuation

>> No.59499057

>>59497181
Does she even acknowledged the existence of her own fans?

>> No.59499335

NTR KINO
SEETHE MORE UNICORNS

>> No.59499614

>>59496202
Did I hit a bit too close to home for you? I was talking about Shiori, though.

>> No.59499718

>>59499614
You deserve every cucking that comes your way, oblivious virgin.

>> No.59499810

>>59497040
That tends to be the case. Like, in general on the internet

>> No.59499875

>>59492206
That means it's working

>> No.59499876

>>59497972
I don't get why this was deleted, isn't this just info from her past life? The rule is no real life or doxxing but we discuss PL shit all the time on this board.
Do meidos just not like it if it's "bad" PL stuff?

>> No.59499930

>>59499876
Yes it's arbitrary as all hell

>> No.59500022

>>59492206
I think the whole thing is funny and the very concept of an oshi or a waifu is stupid.

>> No.59500088

>>59499876
>talking about a vtuber in a vtuber board gets deleted
What a joke this shithole turned

>> No.59500174

>>59500022
Vtubing should never come to the west, just look at this fag
>you won't have discovered it
I'm not a newfag that started watching holo after holoEN

>> No.59500269

>>59499876
>it's "bad" PL stuff
Yes. So many ppl from corpos interact with mods here that /vt/ is like a fixer for bad chuuba PR. I've seen posts deleted for simply saying a cover was bad or debut was ass.

>> No.59500271

>>59500174
Im saying even in Japan the concept of a wiafu is stupid. Imagine being a japanese men and not chasing japanese women, at least in the west people have an excuse since most women are fat as shit.

>> No.59500647

>>59492292
Make that a couple of months till someone really fucks up, another major Niji jab happens when a new girl that attracts unicorns debuts somewhere.

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>>59492292
>I give it 2-3 days until they move on to something else.
You underestimate how good this board is at clinging on to the minor shit.

>> No.59500971

>>59500647
Mysta is joining VShojo in 1 day

>> No.59501048

>>59499810
this is also cope, you genuinely think that everyone who disagrees with you is a troll? did you come here from reddit?

>> No.59501152

>>59497288
i never watched her, i saw the red flags during her debut. However i will still become a schizo anti if she collabs with any of the homos, because it sets a bad precedent or hololive. Advent has been pure CGDCT and i don't want shiori to ruin that

>> No.59501193

the shitposts must flow

>> No.59501197

Why the fuck is a twitter interaction so important?
Kiara interacted with homos via twitter like 2 or 3 times and nobody cared

>> No.59501207

>>59497127
Shitposting is fun anon, well sometimes.

>> No.59501229

>>59497620
nta but not necessarily, if the man is not ok with his wife sleeping with other men, then it's cheating, if the man is ok with his wife sleeping with other men (and enjoys watching it), then it is cuckoldry. It's only cuckoldry if you lie down and accept it, if you are not cool with it, then it's cheating

>> No.59501261

>>59492206
You think? This board has a very vocal minority consisting of asocial unicorns freaks so yeah it's very real. May they all take the rope one day

>> No.59501300

I enjoy ntr and vanilla doujins depending on mood, what does that make me?

>> No.59501322

>>59494170
>believing orange woman
Are you truly retarded, eh

>> No.59501355

>>59501229
Being cheated on is the classic definition of being cuckolded. What you're referring to is a cuckold fetish

>> No.59501368

>>59493483
This is just the beginning
You vill respect her collab choices and you vill be happy with NTR

>> No.59501397

>>59501229
wrong

>> No.59501457

>>59501300
A retarded subhuman

>> No.59501632

>>59501197
Kiara said she will never collab with homostar and all shitpost died right there

>> No.59501688

>>59493386
>She didn't lie and rope people in like Kronii
This never happened

>> No.59501752

>>59499876
Janny powertripping, especially so with the new wave of application just ended. Check 4bans later and you'll see no ban or even warning because janny can only delete post

>> No.59501854

>>59500271
>at least in the west people have an excuse
>https://metropolisjapan.com/why-does-84-percent-of-women-in-japan-think-cheating-is-healthy
>According to 2020 statistics, around 20 percent of the Japanese population report having cheated on their spouse in the past.
>an internal survey carried out by Ashley Maddison found that 84 percent of women and 61 percent of men in Japan report their extramarital affairs as beneficial to their marriage.
Gee anon, I wonder why Japs don't date each other

>> No.59502028

>>59493387
Imagine comparing the anti kronii shitposting to the Rushia incident as if there was any comparison kek. You guys truly are brain damaged

>> No.59502051

>>59501854
20 percent is a really low percentage. If that's true then cheating is actually rare.

>> No.59502055

>>59501854
>An internal survey carried out by Ashley Maddison...
We asked a bunch of cheaters what they thought about cheating and they thought it was awesome. All this shows is Japanese men need to feel less shame about their affairs.

>> No.59502115

>>59498306
When will you stop making these sad excuses for her behavior?

>> No.59502293

>>59501854
>around 20 percent of the Japanese population report having cheated on their spouse in the past
That's lower than most western countries.

>survey carried out by Ashley Maddison
Completely unreliable because the people they survey are obviously cheating.
Like those durex surveys on body count and virginity.

>> No.59502563

>>59501632
Actually Kiara said she doesn't want to collab with them because views. But she stated formerly if the opportunity is so good she will take it. Ok, not exactly this, but she heavily implied that.
She's a bit retarded, to be honest.

>> No.59502722

>>59494238
Those are holo fanartists, you'll find tons of interracual cuckold porn if you look at EN hologirls' on r34 sites.

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>>59501152
Pathetic retard sending this to his own discord server to his other retard friends raid the replies with them while all do a dicksucking ritual in circles liking their tweets each other

>> No.59502757

>>59501048
When the matter is arguing "the general public community" being mad about a tilde, im gonna side with sanity~

>> No.59502781

>>59494554
>nigger doesn't watch streams

>> No.59502936

>>59502051
>>59502055
>>59502293
>what is lying (universal concept)
>what is tatemae (also universal concept, but focusing on Japan)
There is video evidence (though I don't have it on hand) of a pair of Japanese girls being asked if they have ever cheated, one answering "No" and her friend instantly saying that she's lying and that not only has she cheated on her bf before, but she's also cheating on her current bf. Keep in mind these are statistics for marriage infidelity, cheating while in a relationship is another can of worms.
Also, I'd suggest reading the whole article, it's kinda interesting

>> No.59502971

>>59492206
Who?

>> No.59503070

>>59492368
wait what? what happened? and what red flags?

>> No.59503215

>>59501854
>internal survey carried out by Ashley Maddison
You guys should go to your local community college and take a stats class just for fun.

>> No.59503312

>>59503070
>>59493483

>> No.59503370

>>59503070
Rrats are that she was an ntr chuuba, "just according to keikaku" tier. Planning months in advance how to cucking shit, just schizo women all around, with plenty of evidence. That's what i heard here according to rrats and i dont claim to have seen such said evidence, nor would i know where to find such evidence.

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59503399

>>59502028
>anti kronii shitposting
>SHITPOSTING
Clucks easily spotted.

>> No.59503446

>>59492206
Flayon is Shiori's bf

>> No.59503508

>>59503446
Hi, @aomokoka

>> No.59503545

>>59503312
>>59503370
oh ok
i thought it was smth bad, but good to hear it's just those retarded schizo shit and nothing serious

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>>59493575
This is exactly what I've been saying. Yabs used to mean something 2 years ago. Now every nothingburger gets forced into a yab just because certain people are addicted to shitposting.

>> No.59503638

>>59503446
Hi Matryoska

>> No.59503657

>>59497181
she doesn't even acknowledge her own branch

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59503685

>>59492206
>>59492292
>BVTM cucks literally admitted of hating Shiori and those fucks got caught astroturfing this place a few times
>small corpo fag and seething 2views feel like she didn't deserve the spot
>Nijisisters got caught a couple days ago randomly bumping a Shiori hate thread
"unicorns" have nothing to do with this, it's mostly generic Holoanti troons looking for an easy target. We've also seen the other Advent members get a bunch of forced drama spam.

>> No.59503904

>>59492780
it's 2023
these niggers even organize containment breaking raids on their discords. check out the replies and their likes
people even make threads about containment breakers that get archived. this board is too far gone already

>> No.59504325

>>59492292
Shiori kept her comments vague enough that even some people now say that there is no evidence she will collab with Tempus. That might be the smart choice to keep it vague at debut and wait several months before joining any HoloPro collabs but it means she did get a few unicorns. The ones that are still in denial will probably make some noise when the first collab is announced.

>> No.59504572

>>59503070
X reply during sea hours.

>> No.59504705

>>59500971
Such a huge pussy he runs to an all girls group to be called a V Virgin.

>> No.59504784

>>59497040
Unicorns were literally saying the unicorns replying to shiori were all falseflagging homos yesterday

>> No.59505262

>>59492206
Buddy, have you ever browsed /#/ aka unicuck central? They genuinely think interacting with males is the worst crime imaginable. Like the most hated Holo there isn’t somebody you’d generally expect like maybe Mori or Laplus, it’s freaking Bae because she’s a Stars fan.

>> No.59505302

>>59505262
>it’s freaking Bae
Based

>> No.59505365

>>59504325
ANY DAY NOW

>> No.59505440

>>59505262
It's proven time and time again that homo interactions heavily damage hololive careers, I wouldn't say it's a crime but if you don't like money please go ahead lol

>> No.59505706

>>59505262
The other day I clicked a Bae spice clip and there was homos, I almost threw up, if you're going to show garbage at least put it in the thumbnail

>> No.59505803

>>59505262
Serious question as someone not familiar with the innerworkings of that thread: why do they even care? Shouldn't they only be focused on the numbers?

>> No.59505852

>>59505803
Homos are directly linked to lower numbers

>> No.59505953

>>59505852
Mori's gonna lose all her viewers and subscribers....
any day now....
aaaany day now...

>> No.59505962

>>59505852
I'm saying why does their personal views even play into the matter? I thought they were analytical fags only focused on raw data. What would they do if someone they hated was starting to get high numbers?

>> No.59506074

>>59505962
go make fun of them when it happens

>> No.59506207

>>59505440
>proven
>heavily damage
There are examples where this appears to be the case but you can also see basically no change in others, this is hardly consistently observable across the board. Mori still has her music career which is doing well despite lower viewership, Bae’s viewership varies day to day but overall shes fine, Kronii still does well, HoloID has always been okay with male collabs, and HoloJP has talents like Fubuki who collab with males and are still successful. It’s easy to look at a graph of a less popular chuuba who collabs with males and a more popular chuuba who doesn’t and conclude that the only reason the viewership differs is males, but judging noombers is more complicated than that. It would be one thing if noombers were the only metric numberfags cared about, but in reality they just use noombers to justify their preconceived biases and ignore everything that conflicts with it.

>> No.59506377

>>59501152
NTR is still GFE, you know.

>> No.59506416

>>59506207
> mori
> doing well
> bae
runt
> holoid
3views
> kronii
check her merch sales
> fubuki
she made it clear a lot of times she's not doing the gf shit and her friend shtick caught on with the right audience, also she's one of the pillars of hololive for a reason

>> No.59506692

>>59506207
The data showing that homo collabs are number poison is absolutely overwhelming. From % in metrics such as viewership and sales to the overall performance of the branches as a whole. On the other hand there isn't a single good argument that suggests homo collabs are a positive or even neutral.
And I'm pretty sure Cover and the talents realized it too considering that homo collabs completely stopped and Advent so far has avoided homos like the plague, with Shiori thanking a fag on Twitter as the first interaction in 3 months.

>> No.59506747

>>59506692
>Cover and the talents realized it too
explain holizontal

>> No.59506828

>>59505803
The actual answer is that global is hostile to unicorns so they ultimately consolidated in /#/. A large percentage of /#/ doesn’t actually give a shit about numbers and just threats it as an alternative global.

>> No.59506877

>>59506828
> global is full of antis
imagine my shock

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59506981

>>59506692
skill issue

>> No.59507217

>>59506828
>numbertroon cope

>> No.59507360

>>59506416
>mori doing well
Yeah her music is supposedly pretty successful, I imagine she makes a lot of money from it.
>bae runt
Whether shes a runt or not shes still successful. What about Kiara, why didn’t unicorns save her?
>holoid 3views
Numberfag struggles to even look at numbers.
>check kronii’s merch sales
So remember when I said numberfags just use numbers to justify their biases, you’re doing it right now. Despite supposedly falling off Kronii still maintains good viewership within HoloEN. Not even gonna bother describing other reasons the merch didn’t do well since no doubt you already ignored it.
>fubuki made it clear a lot of times she's not doing the gf shit
Biggest unicorn cope on this board, I thought there was no audience within Holo that would tolerate homocollabs? When GFE /here/ is essentially defined as not collabing with males, every chuuba is GFE until they collab with males.

>> No.59507482 [DELETED] 

>>59506877
Unicucks are so unbelievably deluded it’s insane. Yeah, the thread that doesbt tolerate people to calling holos whores because they collabed with a male are the antis, and the unicucks who are literally blatantly anti-ing holos.

>> No.59507575

>>59506877
Unicucks are so unbelievably deluded it’s insane. Yeah, the thread that doesn't tolerate people calling holos whores because they collabed with a male are the antis, NOT the unicucks who are literally anti-ing holos.

>> No.59507625

>>59507360
ok motherfucker please tell me how are we supposed to quantify success if not by numbers

>> No.59507863

>>59507575
Unicorns are literally the ones paying the bills

>> No.59508121

>>59497127
Anon you are in 4chan.

>> No.59508214

>>59507625
because you use numbers like a retarded ape
by your logic anyone doing worse than Suisei is an unmitigated failure even if they are the most pandery GFE ever

the only objective metric by which a streamer is a success is if they are making a living out of it without wanting to kill themselves

>> No.59508353

>>59495789
A few JPs has done the similar things. I don't see why she can't do it to.

>> No.59508395

>>59492598
Nijitroon hands typed this comment

>> No.59508506

>>59508214
I'm comparing people in their own weight class you mongoloid, of course I'm not going to compare the EN runts to someone like Suisei. Calli has the lowest numbers in myth, the success of her music is highly questionable considering how it's gotten worse after the deal. Kronii is getting outpaced by Mumei and Bae is tweeting everyday about how stressed she is. ID are completely irrelevant.

>> No.59508609

>>59508506
you are literally retarded
explains a lot

>> No.59508613

>>59506416
the merch sales were due to shipping costs

>> No.59508644

>>59507360
Again we literally have data showing that every Holo who collabed with homos ended up losing viewers, SC and merch sales. They are obviously a debuff. And your argument is that
>well they didn't lose ALL the fans tho
and you call others biased? There is literally not a single good reason for Holos to collab with homofaggots other than trying to filter their fans. Not one.
>>59507575
Homobeggars have also been caught anting the girls countless times. And it's painfully clear especially now that most of them don't even watch Hololive. But those don't count I guess.

>> No.59508654

>>59508506
>numbertranny logic
Opinion instantly discarded

>> No.59508692

>>59492779
H-Hot...

>> No.59508698

>>59508609
I accept your capitulation
>>59508613
Why did Fauna outsell Kronii then

>> No.59508729

>>59492206
Stop thinking

>> No.59508778

>>59505803
>/#/
>caring about numbers

Kek. You’re talking about a thread that has a pretty positive opinion of Kiara. /#/ is anything BUT a numbers thread.

>> No.59508980

>>59508506
Even within branches your numberfag powerscaling is not consistent. Why is Kiara the runt of Myth when shes unicorn friendly? Why does Kobo do well with HoloID when she is not unicorn friendly? Why is Suisei successful within her branch when shes very unfriendly to unicorns? You would genuinely be less retarded if you were just using numbers but you can’t even do that.

>> No.59509027

>>59494682
Same thing Kronies and to a lesser extent Ame's Goslings used to do.

>> No.59509073

>>59507863
Post merch or shut up. unicucks are penniless 3rd world NEETs just like literally every keyboard warrior that spends all day seething on the internet about dumb shit that normal people dont care about.

>> No.59509262

>>59508980
You're making your arguments based on outliers but I'll entertain you. Kiara can be as unicorn friendly as she wants but that's not going to save her insufferable personality, Kobo is successful with outsiders thanks to clips and the Gura memelord effect. To be fair I'm not knowledgeable on Suisei but she seems to be the exact opposite of Kiara, great personality overruling unicorn unfriendliness

>> No.59509296

>>59502563
If Kiara she wasn’t going to collab with them when Tempus debuted, then that implies her previous statement was when Holostars was JP-only. People’s perceptions of Holostars were a lot different before Tempus, and a lot of fans saw them as “one of the good ones” it was fine to collab with because the Stars didn’t do it often and stayed in their own lane most of the time.
So if you’re trying to suggest this is some kind of backtrack in order to deceive fans, then holy shit is that a stretch.

>> No.59509403

>>59508644
Guess what? I don’t like homobeggars either. Both unicucks AND beggars are overly outspoken retards that make up less than 5% of actual vtuber fans and shit up the hobby for everyone else.

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>>59509073
your turn

>> No.59509616

>>59509262
>You're making your arguments based on outliers
Yes, if you try to make an argument that there is a consistently link between homos and negative viewership then there should be very few outliers. There’s plenty of outliers that have already been posted in this thread and theres more that haven’t. If your stats can’t be easily replicated then they’re worthless.

>> No.59509693

Y’all need meds

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>homotroons unironically trying to discuss /numbers/
genuinely fucking hilarious, you faggots lost and it's clear you don't even watch streams.

>> No.59509898

>>59509616
how many outliers do you consider very few among 64 people?

>> No.59510016

>>59508980
>>59509262
>>59509616
You're both retarded. Calling Kiara unicorn friendly shows none of you even watch her and don't know what you're talking about.
Someone in this thread already posted about how the only reason she didn't collab with Tempus is because it wouldn't help her #. She's talked about wanting to be in their vocaloid song, has talked about guys she's hung out with IRL has acknowledge Tempus several times and did that collab with gigguk.
Kiara is parasocial not unicorn friendly.

>> No.59510019

>>59509810
>needs jp to prop up his numbers even though sui-chan fucks your shit over
lol

>> No.59510132

>>59510016
for arguments sake I considered Kiara unicorn friendly even though shes probably the furthest from that considering PL stuff

>> No.59510573

>>59510132
>for arguments sake I considered Kiara unicorn friendly even though shes probably the furthest from that considering PL stuff
Then she is not unicorn friendly no? The only unicorn friendly chuuba in myth is gura. Her only sin is not streaming.

>> No.59510589

>>59510019
>pretending to give a fuck about Suisei just to have an argument against unicorns
kek, pretty pathetic sister. Then again you have nothing else left. Every other homo collaber is in the gutter, your homoshits are utterly worthless and NijiEN is imploding. You should actually watch streams and support your homos if you truly wanted for them to succeed.

>> No.59510665

This wouldnt even be an argument if Stars/Tempus and NijiEN are successful. They are all dead in the water.

>> No.59510685

>>59510573
And Ina, Gura would be spotless too if she didn't hate her fans but that's another discussion

>> No.59512830

>>59492206
I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed. Total homo death. I gave her another chance a few weeks ago and subscribed but I think I'm gonna unsub.

>> No.59515019

>>59510016
>didn’t collab with Tempus because it wouldn't help her #
Hows that working out for her? This still sounds like a win for unicorns so maybe you should actually support her.
>She's talked about wanting to be in their vocaloid song
This is about the closest thing you got to a point here.
>has talked about guys she's hung out with IRL
This isn’t even bitching about interacting with males, this is bitching about talking about interacting with males. Do you think these women just live in an underground bunker where no homo will gaze upon them?
>acknowledge Tempus
Pekora has acknowledged Holostars, being aware of their existence doesn’t mean anything.
>collab with gigguk
Pretty sure that was a sponsored stream wasn’t it?
You’d think with all the “evidence” about how not being unicorn friendly immediately tanks your viewership kiara would be a lot smaller, but shes stayed pretty stable for awhile, weird how that works.

>> No.59515108

>>59515019
I won't support Kiara because she posted that picture of her backpacking with some dude on Twitter. The industry is large enough for me to not have to put up with anything distasteful.

>> No.59515878

>>59515108
>The industry is large enough
It keeps getting smaller for you guys with every yab. The rest of us can actually enjoy this medium without scanning a streamers twitter account for the homo menace.

>> No.59515947

>>59515878
I am enjoying it in my own way. Plenty of indies and new streamers coming up all the time. Bijou the Gem was once an indie on Twitch and I watched her then as I watch her now because she was always a Gem. Gems exist I have no need for coal.

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>>59492206
OH NO NO NO NO HOLY SHIT ANON.
You can still ask a jannie to delete the thread before the public execution begin.

>> No.59516149

>>59492206
Who knows. But imagine being such a pussy you can't handle a woman talking to another man. If you're threatened you already lost, plus this is a fake relationship you're already cucked.

>> No.59516312

>>59516149
>you can’t handle your woman talking to another man
Hah, I’m even more progressive than you my wife’s boyfriend is my best friend

>> No.59516523

>>59515991
>she's taking the "own the haters" route
Yep, it's over. Expect a collab in a week or two.

>> No.59517170

>>59515991
Literally one day after the tweet she went with a promt with both unspoken 'law' and 'character she was forbbiden to engage with'. It can't get more obvious than this.

>> No.59517259

>>59516312
Imagine not being romantically involved with your wife's boyfriend.

>> No.59517644

>>59515991
She definitely knows what she's doing, she chose those words on purpose

>> No.59517891

>>59494554
Total bullshit. You don't know what are you talking about.

>> No.59519752

>>59508980
I'm an unicorn but never would wach Kiara, she's boring, annoying, gets sidetracked every 10 seconds and call it "tangent", never pay attention to what she's doing and etc. Kobo appeals to shit eating children in SEA so of course there's lots of them, but most of the time they aren't there unless she collabs with a big fleshtuber from SEA and Suisei isn't unfriendly to unicorns, she's more neutral, she just said she won't be able to give back your feelings for her, and we all know her success came from music

>> No.59519820

>>59515947
Well hopefully Bijou doesn’t slip up, wouldn’t want some random anon on /vt/ to confront reality for once. I can’t imagine enjoying vtubers if I was constantly paranoid about them speaking to the wrong person though.

>> No.59519854

>>59509535
>no response from the other anon
Homobeggar btfo as usual when it comes to action, they just speak but don't watch, don't buy merch, don't anything. They just want for the girls to "own the chuds" even if that's a setback in their career

>> No.59519938

>>59510019
>but muh Suisei
Suisei is the exception that shows the rule, besides there's holos above her that are unicorn friendly anyways so it isn't an own like you think

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>>59509535
Post physical merch with a timestamp

>>59519854
eat shit

>> No.59521274

>>59519820
Bijou is going to get caught in a male collab niji style like when pomu and finana promised a girl's collab. Except Bijou is pomu and finana is shiori

>> No.59521282

>>59519938
theres also unicorn friendly vtubers that are much further below her, male collab = bad viewership is hardly a consistent rule.

>> No.59521641

>>59515991
It's so fucking over.

>> No.59523491

>>59521274
It doesn’t even have to be something like that, message the wrong person, hear a male voice in the background, mention the homos at all, it is very easy to make unicorns mad

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