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>> No.59208351
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.59208382

GRIM

>> No.59208383

>>59208256
check if koyori overworked herself to death

>> No.59208389
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae1BV8Suk0A

>> No.59208404

Disgusting cow tits.

>> No.59208417
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>>59208295
Recent clip numbers
>>59168137
>>59168158
>>59168183
>>59168208
>>59168233

>> No.59208420

So is Fzero a buff if Mori can be outside of her timeslot and still be this "high"

>> No.59208448

>>59208404
chopped off etc etc

>> No.59208450
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>> No.59208460

If you could travel 10 years into the future and access the internet
what would be the first thing you checked out in regards to vtubing?
imagine checking out your oshi's youtube channel and not finding anything

>> No.59208468

>>59208256
Scour twitter for graduation announcements and look for reactions in the archives.

>> No.59208479

I notice that Cover is starting to focus more on the SEA market this year compared to 2022. HoloMeet has attended more SEA conventions compared to NA conventions.

>> No.59208481
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It took 2 hours of watching this stream for me to realize why this VN looks nostalgic to me.
It's literally the first VN I ever played on my shitty ass college laptop.

>> No.59208488
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* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>72,951: Mumei (Hololive)
>58,664: Korone (Hololive)
>50,335: Miko (Hololive)
>37,551: Mito (Nijisanji)
>36,298: Koyori (Hololive)
>30,491: Marine (Hololive)
>28,903: Chiroru (Indie)
>27,404: Pekora (Hololive)
>26,702: Botan (Hololive)
>25,790: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>25,765: Suisei (Hololive)
>21,949: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>20,998: Subaru (Hololive)
>20,911: Ange (Nijisanji)
>18,008: Raden (Hololive)
>16,955: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>16,908: Fuwamoco (Hololive)
>16,743: Koyori (Hololive)
>16,072: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji)
>15,690: Amamiya (Nijisanji)
>15,596: Salome (Nijisanji)
>14,946: QueueTan (Indie)
>14,818: Met (VSPO)
>13,697: Hajime (Hololive)
>13,378: Tachibana (VSPO)
>13,267: QueueTan (Indie)
>13,246: Noel (Hololive)
>12,830: NeruMero (Indie)
>12,727: Lamy (Hololive)
>12,357: Luna (Hololive)
>11,673: Okayu (Hololive)
>11,496: Matsuri (Hololive)
>10,563: Nui (Nijisanji)
>10,359: Kanade (Hololive)
>10,309: Polka (Hololive)

>> No.59208505

>>59208079
honestly had a kek

>> No.59208524

>>59208420
More like Advent is a failure that people bounced back to their senpais

>> No.59208543

>>59208460
Porn

>> No.59208557

>>59208460
>the first thing you checked out in regards to vtubing?
Nothing at all
If I knew the future I'd probably just kill myself
I fucking abhor the concept of knowing things before they happen, and setting myself into a permanent, unavoidable fate
As long as I don't know the future, I can change it

>> No.59208569
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>>59208488
>SEPTEMBER 2023 GOLDS
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 45,789 - Apex
2) Iroha (Hololive) - 64,229 - Outfit Reveal
3) Miko (Hololive) - 82,404 - Minecraft
4) Marine (Hololive) - 51,829 - Parasocial
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 48,521 - Armored Core 6
6) Subaru (Hololive) - 106,673 - Oozora Police Minecraft
7) Hololive (Hololive) - 63,855 - 6th Anniversary
8) Botan (Hololive) - 95,311 - Birthday Live
9) Kanade (Hololive) - 110,230 - Debut Stream
10) Raden (Hololive) - 129,772 - Debut Stream
11) Rion (Nijisanji) - 65,412 - Personality Test (w/ Mito, Kuzuha, Toya & others)
12) Hajime (Hololive) - 47,019 - Karaoke Stream
13) Hololive (Hololive) - 58,901 - Blue Journey
14) Chiroru (Indie) - 42,314 - Hanshin Tigers vs Yomiuri Giants
15) NeruMero (Indie) - 37,114 - Genshin Impact Update Watchalong
16) Lui (Hololive) - 33,478 - Outfit Reveal
17) Okayu (Hololive) - 80,549 - Minecraft (w/ Fubuki, Mio, Laplus, Lui)
18) Kronii (Hololive) - 58,935 - 3D Showcase
19) Subaru (Hololive) - 54,746 - SMOK Lie Detector
20) Miko (Hololive) - 41,305 - Soul Calibur 6
21) Hajime (Hololive) - 53,912 - Clubhouse Games 51 (w/ Raden)
22) Lauren (Nijisanji) - 169,412 - 3D Debut
23) Pekora (Hololive) - 93,167 - Human Rabbitality Project
24) Mumei (Hololive) - 72,951 - 3D Showcase

>PER COMPANY
20x: Hololive
2x: Indie, Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
2x: Hajime, Hololive, Miko, Pekora, Subaru
1x: Aqua, Botan, Chiroru, Kanade, Iroha, Kronii, Lauren, Lui, Marine, Mumei, NeruMero, Okayu, Raden, Rion

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
185x: Hololive
63x: Nijisanji
10x: Indie
5x: VSPO
4x: Neo Porte

>PER STREAMER
59x: Pekora
22x: Miko
17x: Marine
10x: Subaru
9x: Hololive, Nijisanji
8x: Toya
6x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Suisei
5x: Yashiro
4x: Chiroru, Fuwa, Hal, Iroha, Mio, Okayu, Shiina, Towa
3x: Leos, Lui, NeruMero, Koyori
2x: Aki, Flare, Fubuki, Hajime, Hinano, Ibrahim, Korone, Lamy, Maimoto, Salome, Shion, Tsukasa, Watame
1x: Air, Ayame, Beni, Botan, Chloe, Choco, Fuwamoco, Gaku, Gura, Gundou, Hibari, Himawari, Ina, Kaede, Kanade, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Lize, Mel, Mito, Mori, Mumei, Mysta, Noel, Nose, Nozomi, Nui, Polka, Ponto, Qpi, Raden, Rikiichi, Rion, Roco, Ryushen

>> No.59208581

4K DORYAAAAAAA

>> No.59208584

>>59208468
>types twitter/x into the search bar
>this site doesn't exist anymore
what now?

>> No.59208599

>>59208460
check if they finally made AI companions viable and download my oshi's version

>> No.59208616

It's so over

>> No.59208636

>>59208479
The NA con circuit is only just starting up, in terms of Anime cons.
Anime cons are a cold weather thing in America, general "nerd cons" are for the warm weather months

>> No.59208657
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* YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY *
>9/24 DAILY TALLY
72,951: Mumei (Hololive)
16,908: FuwaMoco (Hololive)
9,265: Bijou (Hololive)
7,187: Luca (Nijisanji)
6,471: Ina (Hololive)
5,906: Mori (Hololive)
5,536: Nerissa (Hololive)
5,227: Sonny (Nijisanji)


>EN GOLDS FOR SEPTEMBER 2023
1) Mumei (Hololive) - 21,874 - Unarchived Karaoke
2) Luca (Nijisanji) - 28,501 - NijiMelody Relay
3) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 12,142 - It Takes Two
4) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 11,690 - FuwaMoco Morning
5) Bijou (Hololive) - 11,307 - Elden Ring
6) Amelia (Hololive) - 26,831 - Outfit Reveal
7) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 15,476 - Advent Minecraft
8) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 10,735 - FuwaMoco Morning
9) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 21,257 - Advent Japanese Class
10) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 22,406 - Karaoke Stream
11) Gura (Hololive) - 37,393 - Outfit Reveal
12) Mori (Hololive) - 13,093 - Unarchived Karaoke
13) Ina (Hololive) - 16,524 - 3rd Anniversary
14) Gura (Hololive) - 26,610 - Myth Anniversary Uno
15) Gura (Hololive) - 21,335 - 3rd Anniversary
16) Kyo (Nijisanji) - 13,671 - 2.0 Debut
17) Fauna (Hololive) - 50,623 - 3D Showcase
18) Kronii (Hololive) - 58,935 - 3D Showcase
19) Mumei (Hololive) - 11,123 - WolfQuest
20) Shiori (Hololive) - 9,336 - Minecraft
21) Mori (Hololive) - 13,029 - Super Smash Bros (w/ FuwaMoco)
22) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 21,156 - The Backrooms (w/ Fubuki)
23) Ren (Nijisanji) - 8,580 - Unarchived Karaoke
24) Mumei (Hololive) - 72,951 - 3D Showcase

>PER COMPANY
21x: Hololive
3x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
7x: FuwaMoco
3x: Gura, Mumei
2x: Mori
1x: Amelia, Bijou, Fauna, Ina, Kronii, Kyo, Luca, Ren, Shiori

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
61p: FuwaMoco
23p: Bijou
20p: Mumei
16p: Mori
15p: Gura
11p: Fauna
8p: Amelia, Kronii, Luca
6p: Baelz, Ina
5p: Kyo, Ren, Shiori
3p: Enna, IRyS, Nerissa, Pomu, Sonny
1p: Kiara, Kotoka, Meloco, Uki

>> No.59208691

>>59208256
Weather pekochan has taken over the world or not

>> No.59208702

>>59208479
I mean Singapore by itself makes up around 37% of hololive english viewers.

>> No.59208730
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lasagna graph

>> No.59208751

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAr2lHZLNyU

>> No.59208752

>>59208584
Unironically the most likely outcome
God knows most companies don't lose 40% profitability in a quarter or less and come out the other end swinging by the decade's end

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>>59208657
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
200x: Hololive
63x: Nijisanji
3x: Holostars
1x: Idol

>PER STREAMER
24x: Fauna, Gura
23x: Mori
21x: Mumei
17x: IRyS
15x: FuwaMoco, Ina
14x: Baelz, Kronii, Mysta
11x: Amelia
9x: Kiara, Vox
5x: Bijou
4x: Pomu, Ren, Selen, Shu
3x: Luca, Nerissa, Nina, Shiori
2x: Alban, Finana, Hololive English, Ike, Wilson
1x: Bandage, Enna, Elira, Flayon, Fulgur, Kyo, Luxiem, Millie, Petra, Regis, Roca, Rosemi, Sonny, Vesper

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
233p: Fauna
177p: Mori
172p: Ina
166p: Mumei
159p: IRyS
143p: FuwaMoco
135p: Baelz
129p: Gura
109p: Kronii
105p: Mysta
93p: Kiara
91p: Amelia
75p: Luca
74p: Vox
58p: Bijou
37p: Shu
32p: Shiori
31p: Nerissa, Selen
28p: Pomu
24p: Nina
21p: Ren
19p: Ike
18p: Enna
17p: Sonny
15p: Fulgur, Uki
13p: Finana, Millie
11p: Axel
10p: Alban, Elira, Hololive English, Wilson
9p: Vesper
7p: Kotoka, Regis
6p: Bandage, Kyo, Rosemi
5p: Flayon, Luxiem, Petra, Roca
4p: Bringer, Magni
3p: Bettel, Hakka, Poko
2p: Meloco
1p: Maria, Shinri, Pippa

>> No.59208803

>>59208256
Compare Marine vs Shakira total music numbers
Check Pekoland map in the world
Check Noel's international beef&dairy brand
Check if Flare got to 1,5 mil subs yet

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>>59208450

>> No.59208907
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>No bro, trust me, so long as you have a good MV it's impossible NOT to get good numbers on a holo song

>> No.59208910
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My favorite part of small corpo room reviews is how most of them are filled to the brim with Hololive

>> No.59208912

>>59208766
Hey tally anon, check this and see if the points are accurate
https://litter.catbox.moe/cqn1tg.xlsx

>> No.59208927

>>59208557
If you believe that some kind of determism sets in if you know the future then it’s really only a difference in knowledge, no? There’s still a set future regardless, it just feels more free because you aren’t aware of what that set future is

>> No.59208931

>>59208636
That's weird separating con circuit into cold and warm weather thing

>> No.59208939

>>59208907
People just don't like Flare.

>> No.59208951

>>59208557
knowing the future is the only way to achieve heaven

>> No.59208973

Mori tally'd

>> No.59208972

Bae probably will only get 50k max

>> No.59208976
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Why are they like this?

>> No.59208983

>>59208907
j-jesas

>> No.59209011

MORI 5K DORYAAAA

>> No.59209024
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Can Mumei save EN once again?

>> No.59209041

>>59208479
America is about to enter Civil war, so it makes sense to avoid that place for fear of getting randomly shot
Taiwan is about to be invaded by China, so it makes sense to avoid that place for fear of getting randomly bombed
Europe is about to be overrun by immigrants, so it makes sense to avoid that place for fear of getting randomly mugged
Thefefore SEA is the best and safest place right now

>> No.59209048

>>59208907
Shouldn't be an elf.

>> No.59209064

>>59208931
It's easier for the kinds of people who would go to conventions to go outside in the cold
Consider the kinds of people who go to anime conventions, and then consider them in the summer heat, and there ya go, ya know?
Anime NYC 2021 line hell... all those cute cosplayers in short skirts freezing out there for hours... what a time

>> No.59209095

>>59208730
Grim. Give us back the pride of being an EN fans like in 2021.

>> No.59209106

>>59208479
I don't see why not since Covid is over.

>> No.59209114

>>59209024
She spent all her buffs yesterday

>> No.59209115

>>59208907
Good MV, great music
Piss poor promotion though since she's not thick-skinned enough to shill herself shamelessly.
Just flare in a nutshell

>> No.59209133

>>59208976
Clown fanbase is so fucking annoying. Everytime this dude stream with his twin the FWMC begging art start appearing on Twitter again

>> No.59209217

>>59209024
yes, she already cemented herself as the top of EN

>> No.59209219

>>59208907
I can see why she gets along with IRyS

>> No.59209257

>>59208931
isn't it more about double dipping? people who go to some of those general cons are likely to go to anime cons if they don't have close dates/overlap within each other

>> No.59209262

>>59209133
Please don't overlap clown fanbase with BVTM and okbuddyhololive.

>> No.59209267

>>59208927
If there isn't determinism, everything you can learn about the future is useless because your own actions are likely to change it
If there is determinism, you gain literally nothing by knowing the future because nothing you do will ever change anything
There is absolutely no outcome where having knowledge of the future is good, with the sole exception of limited foresight in a deterministic world where you and you alone are set outside of the determinism that holds the rest of the world, allowing for your actions to change the future and avert bad outcomes

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SHE’S DOING IT

>> No.59209304

>>59209273
She already did it, just dipped back under because this game is basically car APEX.

>> No.59209311

>>59208907
Not enough to overcome the brown debuff

>> No.59209329

>>59208907
Brutal
How much money has she wasted at this point with good MVs

>> No.59209350
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>>59209304

>> No.59209361

I can't believe Ren and Kyo let Mumei have the gold yesterday, they could easily do a double date karaoke and get 80k

>> No.59209371

Mumei will reach 940k this week.
IRyS will reach 970k by the end of october.
Soon.

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>>59209024
Nah, it'll be JP Listener-san who will tune to Fuwamoco Morning 13hrs from now

>> No.59209402

>>59209273
At this point I'll take whatever 5k+ streams I can get.

>> No.59209409

>>59209262
But IT is his fanbase. All the sisters doing these kind of art livepost this dude stream

>> No.59209413

>>59209273
Explain the numbers on Mori's stream.

>> No.59209421

>>59209133
>be clown
>pretty much stay in your lane for most of your existence in Holostars
>the only time you ever cross that is when one of the girls is literally collab begging in your chat, so it's whatever
>you have a niche and built it up, and your fans like the interactions that sometimes happen with your twin brother
>EN3 drops
>there are twin girls
>you and your brother's existence are now juiced by collab beggars to an unbelievable degree, merely by the consequence of your own birth
That can't feel good

>> No.59209424

>>59208907
When you think about it EN specifically has a pretty good floor for music releases. Nothing below 200k besides Kiara’s recently released KR version of DO U, and that will likely claw its way to 200k in a month

>> No.59209427

time to 15M:
>Marine Bishopai 55 Days 17 Hours
Marine Maribako 102 Days 5 Hours
Mori Gura Q 144 Days 8 Hours
Gura Mori King 148 Days 14 Hours
Mori Rip 172 Days 16 Hours
Suisei Phony 183 Days 21 Hours
Ochame Kinou 207 Days 5 Hours
Laplus Kamippoi 218 Days 2 Hours
Can You Do the hololive (BTS ver.) 290 Days 4 Hours
Ayame Goodbye Sengen 294 Days 1 Hour
Suisei Mori Getcha 299 Days 2 Hours
Suisei Stellar Stellar 343 Days 15 Hours
Suisei Ghost 411 Days 19 Hours
Gura Reflect 472 Days 1 Hour
Suisei w/ Fantasy Saga Jihen 565 Days 20 Hours
Pekora Disco Seijin 668 Days 15 Hours

>> No.59209444

>>59208105
To be clear I don't dislike Nerissa at all and hope she figures things out.
Covers and originals are very hit and miss, I mean look how strong Mori started and she's had a fair amount of misses and struggled to keep people interested in her music at times. It'll be very hard if that's all she's got. Usually the successful music members have a solid core audience that are interested in something more then just their music. If she can turn things around with some good karaoke streams, as one example, that would be huge boon to her build a core audience.

>> No.59209458

>>59209397
I want to have sex with Fuwawa so bad holy shit

>> No.59209472

>>59208481
>19 years later and you're posting about numbers on an e-whore bored
What a world.

>> No.59209500
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Junkids.... your hero...

>> No.59209502

Now I feel bad for shitting on grimgang when Advent first debut...

>> No.59209568

>>59209421
He should call out this beggars and tell them to fuck off. No sugarcoating

>> No.59209578

>>59209502
I don't
they deserve it

>> No.59209606

>>59209397
This art is so good holy sex

>> No.59209612

>>59208910
God damn, the merch is impressive enough already, the custom neon lights look amazing

>> No.59209615

>>59209500
Who even watches Jun in here for this bait?

>> No.59209624

>>59209421
you won't make me feel guilt over a homo, he fucked up in the first place for joining

>> No.59209648

>>59209568
Pretty sure he already went out and said shit like
>I am not a "senpai," stop calling me that
in regards to EN3, but I dunno if they took the hint

>> No.59209660

>>59209424
I feel like Myth helped make a lot of EN fans actually interested in the music of the Holos from the offset when that isn't always the case with JP fans, since HoloJP wasn't exactly smashing out covers and orisongs from the get-go in the way they do now.

>> No.59209678

>>59209578
But they were right though, EN3 couldn't even save HoloEN. It's over.

>> No.59209681

>>59209444
My impression of Nerissa is that she doesn't seem very interested in being a streamer or putting out interesting stream content. Maybe that's okay, and every party is happy so long as she puts out a cover every couple of weeks.

>> No.59209692

>>59209678
nah
they're fags and deserve to get shit on whenever they pop up

>> No.59209694

>>59209444
I don't think she cares. She's one of the few hires that actually had original music before Hololive. Releasing music to a small audience shows it's something you care about, rather than it's something you're doing to make easy money.

>> No.59209700

>>59209500
Married debuff

>> No.59209708

So Shiori's whole "respect my collab choices" was actually about her not being that outgoing in collabing with her senpai?

>> No.59209773

>>59209708
Everything she's said since seems to suggest that

>> No.59209778

>>59209708
looks like it, even more when people get a little crazy once collab ban ends and we already know she is not that much of a hololive fan no reason to force friendships this soon

>> No.59209782

>>59209708
I've been saying this since debut and to be fair, a good chunk of anons agreed, but the shitposters didn't wanna listen

>> No.59209785

>>59209708
seems so... unless

>> No.59209807

>>59209708
It was about collabing with her 2view friends but did a 180 when the internet literally caught on fire and hasn't said a thing about collabs since.

>> No.59209816

>[Random MocoRissa Interactions]

Trash: Sorry Moco-chan, this jump is really difficult....
Mococo: Are You Kidding Me?

Rissa: Hey girls, how are you girls doing?
Rissa: I'm not doing too hot lately. I don't know what to stream. Can I try to play some old games like you girls?
Mococo: Make sure you go watch some fireflies before you do it.

>> No.59209824

>>59209692
Get fucked nigga. We're here to stay. Just look at the current numbers right now.

>> No.59209842
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59209842

So what did we learn from the last thread anons?

>> No.59209879

>>59208382
God I hate kikeks so much

>> No.59209883

Is there a reason why Holo is getting subpar music numbers aside from Marine? Even Suisei is not exempt from this curse.

>> No.59209891

>>59209824
nah
get your wack-ass sped shit outta here

>> No.59209913

>>59209115
Piss poor promotion my ass, she shilled it at the end of her 70k concert. This is not a promotion orivkem

>> No.59209934

>>59209648
Yeah, that's on twitter. He should do it on his stream where his viewers actually watch him. Just say I'm not hololive or something and make it clear that his branch is clearly separate.

>> No.59209940

>>59209708
what I remember her actually saying is "I will take a long time watching to see if someone is actually someone I want to collab with before I actually do so", which could just mean "hey don't be surprised if I don't collab with people"

>> No.59209986 [DELETED] 

>>59209842
Pagpag connoisseurs are actually proud of Bijou getting 5k with AC6

>> No.59209993

>>59209824
The only good kikek is a dead kikek

>> No.59210030

>>59209883
I unironically think that when Suisei and Mori were at their height (mid-late 2021) they were lifting up the entirety of the holobox when it came to music because it was feeding back to songs from other Holos. Whereas Marine's views don't seem to circulate back through the box because it's all TikTok tourists.

>> No.59210035
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Built for being cummed inside of (for being came into? for being cummed in? one of those is right and I'm gonna do it)

>> No.59210060

>>59209329
maybe a million USD at this point

>> No.59210077

>>59209782
Nigger they are still clinging onto the not your friend shitpost, the truth doesn't matter to those kinds of shitposters

>> No.59210078

>>59209409
I checked their leedit history they don't post on holostars at all, mostly hololive and okbuddy

>> No.59210102

>>59208702
proof next thread?

>> No.59210133

>>59209934
>Yeah, that's on twitter.
You'd be shocked at how many talents think that twitter matters

>> No.59210157

>>59210102
He's confusing superchat value with audience share

>> No.59210160

Some of the other EN girls who are decent at games should play F-Zero 99 for at least one stream. They'd get better numbers than what Mori is getting and Mori is getting pretty good numbers (for her).

>> No.59210164

>>59209472
nta but what do you call vshojos?
also is it possible to be a female online entertainer without being an ewhore?

>> No.59210190

>>59208907
Blaming it on lack of promotion is cope, burning tens of thousands of dollars on a MV that flops is more likely to happen than it going viral.

>> No.59210205

>>59208481
Boy you are old
Most people's first vn around these parts is fate

>> No.59210218

>>59210164
>also is it possible to be a female online entertainer without being an ewhore?
That's what good Vtubers are, yes, don't let the fags try and trick you into thinking otherwise

>> No.59210245

>>59209883
Skiru isu

>> No.59210283

[Bad News]
https://twitter.com/hirotaka0125/status/1706130072594497859

>> No.59210300

>>59210164
Vshitshow, I call them vshitshow.

>> No.59210309

>>59210164
pekora is a big female online entertainer and she doesn't ewhore

>> No.59210330

>>59209883
tiktok is one hell of a drug for numbers
Gura said it before a long time ago, she knew that tiktok is the best platform to advertise your music

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>>59210283
>hitotaka0125

>> No.59210381

>>59210283
Can someone tell me this is not a cumscare

I don't remember the account ID numbers

>> No.59210419

>>59210381
It's in the 17's, it's definitely not

>> No.59210425

>>59209883
Suisei is doing very strong for herself soiaree did preety well it's just that she dosent have additional buffs like marine

>> No.59210427

>>59210381
It's always a cumpscare anon

>> No.59210440

7.5

>> No.59210484

>>59210419
>>59210427
i took the risk and was rewarded well
fortune favors the bold

>> No.59210512

>>59208907
>>59209115
Flare makes a lot of music that people aren't interested in hearing from her. I'm confident if she actually made a cool song it'd do much better.

>> No.59210544

>>59210512
She's not cool...

>> No.59210604

>>59210512
Shame about her 'tism

>> No.59210609

>>59210283
UOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

>> No.59210617

>>59207185
>Why not blame FWMC for giving us a 4 channel gen instead of the usual 5?
>That fifth member could've been a retro gamer
Are you implying Fuwawa is trash?

>> No.59210625

>>59210283
I know it's part of her design but the gills are a turn off ngl.

>> No.59210634

>>59210030
I don't think most of Suisei or Mori's music viewers cared about the rest of the box.

>> No.59210640

On one hand, if someone made a new account for Vox's peak cumpscaring tweets, it could start working even better than it used to
But it just doesn't feel the same if you aren't hitting someone with the original thing, it never felt good to get Towa Baby'd by an alt account built for storing Towa Babys in new tweet URLs
If you don't hit someone with the real thing, did you even cumpscare them?

>> No.59210648

>>59210512
Seriously though why the fuck does she hate being a cool dark elf so much?

>> No.59210647

>>59210283
I'll goom then.

>> No.59210667

>>59210157
Do SG even make up 37% of total SC?
Last chart showed at least 65%+ coming from NA
SG population is very small

>> No.59210674

>>59210617
I mean, Mococo is like 100x cuter so yes

>> No.59210724

>>59210544
Ad Truck and Stardust Song are very cool
She needs more songs like that

>> No.59210742

>>59210512
the image she projects of herself with her music is not one that really appeals to people

I don't know if she deserves some kind of props for pushing ahead down that same path over and over despite how much people don't want it, but it's definitely numbers anathema

>> No.59210744

>>59210648
To be fair she lost the lottery being a filthy knife ear in the first place

>> No.59210748

>>59210617
No, they both are!

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>>59210617
That goes without saying

>> No.59210798

Shitskin knife ears is a total failure, she doesn't fit and can't compare to the success of her genmates. She desperately tries to be a singer and want to be treated as such, but her singing is just boring and mediocre. Not good enough to leave an impression, but also not bad enough to become a meme like Noel. All she does is chase an impossible dream by keep throwing away her life savings. But no matter how much she wastes her money on external things like high quality MV, song or mixing, it can't cover her shitty mediocre singing and won't save her music number either.

>> No.59210821

[HoloCosplayer News]
https://twitter.com/ruuna_070/status/1706114291315986831
This will do numbers
I'm starting to understand why my uncle loves Thai women so much and keeps going on vacation there

>> No.59210831

>>59210617
Fuwawa is not utilizing her skill set properly, she should focus on sexy ASMR

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It smells like FUCKING CAVERN WORKERS IN HERE TODAY

>> No.59210875

>>59210634
If that was true I don't think Suisei or Mori's collab songs on other channels would have done well. Like, look how many views Beat Eater got compared to any of Reine's other collabs, for example

>> No.59210887

[Nerissa news] She fucking loves Mococo and Biboo

>> No.59210913

Ela please play block game again

>> No.59210916

>>59210617
I mean, Fuwawa shines just for being the one backseating Mococo doing everything.
I think this new solo stream could be the place to having a personality outside of that.

>> No.59210920

>>59210887
Who doesn't? Good taste

>> No.59210924

>>59210887
Fuwawa...

>> No.59210932

>>59210617
they could have just had a 5th channel with a 6th person, I don't think FWMC needed to preclude that

>> No.59210949

>>59210648
>Seriously though why the fuck does she hate being a cool dark elf so much?
Maybe she wants people to like her for who she is and what she wants to be rather than something she knows she's not?

>> No.59210962

>>59210625
the gills are the best part you coward

>> No.59210972

>>59210924
She sees her as a mature sister like her aka sex

>> No.59210976

>>59210924
Fuwawa needs her disgusting fat cow tits chopped off, it's unsightly how they just bounce all over the place without a care in the world. She should be like her sister Mococo.

>> No.59211002

>>59209660
That makes sense. When you've got Mori and Gura in the debut gen music comes a much bigger factor for why people got invested

>> No.59211012

>>59210798
Shit opinion, her voice is great

>> No.59211015

>>59210949
Sounds like tranny talk

>> No.59211018

>>59210972
Does she always have to be gross?

>> No.59211023

>>59208295
We need more vtubers with giant cow tits.

>> No.59211052

>>59211015
that's like
literally the exact opposite of that, anon

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59211068

Kari-chan kakkoii

>> No.59211081

>>59208907
>so long as you have a good MV
not visually mesmerizing animation, I don't even want to watch it twice
the song suck, flare singing bad, vocal tuning bad
The only good thing about it is the first 10 seconds. That intro melody/sequence is kinda beautiful and catchy

Also if you are trying to shill Flare orisong, you did a perfect job. I actually listened to it because you were posting an intriguing question about this song/mv.

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>>59211023
This is a flattie lover thread, sir

>> No.59211109

>>59208481
Oji-san ...

>> No.59211121

>>59211023
ID4 will give it to you

>> No.59211133

>>59210949
>>59210648
if you watched her on debut she tried really hard to lean into that character for a pretty solid period of time and it basically mindbroke her with how much it wasn't working out

instead of graduating she just said fuck it I'll do what I want instead. And here she is. It's doing okay, even if the numbers are still kinda grim

>> No.59211138

>>59211018
She didn't say anything about sex, she just said she'd like to get tea with her and talk

>> No.59211145

[Nerissa new] Cover next Saturday, is in English.

>> No.59211176

MUMEI STREAM IS CANCELLED, ITS OVER

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>> No.59211225

So why did Mikeneko give up on Nazuna?

>> No.59211229

>>59210916
>Fuwawa shines just for being the one backseating Mococo doing everything.
>solo stream could be the place to having a personality outside of that
This.
I've been saying this forever.
I was very happy when they decided to do solo fuwawa

>> No.59211234

>>59211195
Reading is the gameplay

>> No.59211262

AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE IT'S MOOMOVER

>> No.59211280

>>59211225
didn't get numbers
it's not like there was a vshojo box for her to leech on
so why bother

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>>59211176
>>59211262
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.59211301
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59211301

Shut down the branch.

>> No.59211367

What is deco nina?

>> No.59211374

THIS IS THE PRICE WE PAY, HOOMANS
THIS IS THE PRICE FOR MUMEI STARTING HER 3D SHOWCASE STREAM EARLY AND ON TIME
THE MOTHER OF ALL DELAYS
WILL YOU SURVIVE?????

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59211379

ROI status?

>> No.59211395

Moom...

>> No.59211396

>>59211138
>she just said she'd like to get tea with her and talk
Hey sure.

>> No.59211398

>>59211301
Peko-chan, I beg you, have mercy on them

>> No.59211424

So what now?

>> No.59211432

>>59211293
Literally the only stream I was going to watch today…recommend me an anime to binge watch

>> No.59211463

>>59211293
Reminder people were shitting on Fauna for not streaming because she was busy

>> No.59211466

>>59211367
Deco*27

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59211481

>enter numbercuck thread
>save the big massive cow tits
>drop a stinky brown log on the floor
>close the thread

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>>59210667
I don't know about exact percentages but SGD does make up a surprisingly large amount of superchats by value simply because of how strong the currency is

>> No.59211494

the monkey paw curls and we have no moom today

>> No.59211496

>>59211225
>why did Mikeneko give up

Miko and give up.
Is probably a better duo than FWMC

>> No.59211508

>>59211432
Have you watched Gunbuster/Gunbuster2 yet?

>> No.59211518

>>59211379
its underrated and people apparently dont know what good music is

>> No.59211536

https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1706135732539338761
IT'S OVER

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>>59209883
Suisei is doing fine, she still has the #1 undisputed collective monthly/weekly music views out of all music vtubers with the amount of music she has.

>> No.59211560

>>59211023
theres a bunch of them and they are 1views

>> No.59211566

>>59211301
>holoEN beatin NijiEN
>peko sanji not happy
what is happening

>> No.59211568

>>59211301
NIJISEETHE

>> No.59211579

>>59211481
Don't shit on the floor sir.

>> No.59211577

>>59211293
lmfao jesus christ what could cover possibly be having her do that has a due date for the day after her 3D showcase

>> No.59211586

>>59211432
Last Exile

>> No.59211589

>>59211536
GRIM

>> No.59211598

>>59211541
Where are you tracking this? And I assume it's just Youtube?

>> No.59211621

wasn't Bae's 3D today?

>> No.59211638

>>59210875
That doesn't mean their viewers care for the rest of the box, just that their viewers were willing to show up for a song they were in.

>> No.59211649

Grim numbers from holoen today

>> No.59211654

>>59211577
Three options
1: shit for the big group 3D showcase in October
2: something regarding her Orisong
3: literally schoolwork

>> No.59211660

>>59211577
Bae said there'll be a Council announcement soon (which is why they're collabing this week)
Probably related to that

>> No.59211667

Nerissa Mumei collab this week

>> No.59211669

Nerissa will collab with Moom next week

>> No.59211671

Nerissa Mumei collab on Thursday. Zatsu apparently? God can this woman literally not spend half her schedule collabing

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>>59211621
Bro?

>> No.59211683

>>59211598
Yes, youtube music charts

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>>59211432
3gatsu no lion/March comes in like a lion
It's a funny light-hearted show that won prizes over One Piece in some occasions

>> No.59211695

>>59211621
Nope, it's next week, the only back to back one was kronii's and fauna because last week was a holiday

>> No.59211703

>>59211518
>people apparently dont know what good music is
Flare: Please educate yourself. About good music

Is Flare the JP Finana?

>> No.59211715

[Bird news] Mumei Nerissa collab next week, emo talk.

>> No.59211728
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>>59211023

>> No.59211735

>>59211649
God I hate kikeks so much

>> No.59211747

>>59211667
>>59211669
>>59211671
>>59211715
wtf so many jailbirds? it's literally a members stream

>> No.59211751

>>59211671
The loathsome

>> No.59211753

>>59211508
>>59211586
Thanks, I’ll check them out

>> No.59211772

>>59211685
based 3-gatsugod

>> No.59211774

>>59211671
>doesn't collab
>why is she even part of hololive if she doesn't collab
>collabs alot
>God can this woman literally not spend half her schedule collabing
I hate you niggers so fucking much

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>>59210875
Kek, holo musicbox vs tiktok

>> No.59211777
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59211777

surprising amount of jailbirds in the numbers thread, all things considered.
How you all doing? Good? Having fun? I hope so.

>> No.59211782

>>59211747
Got the info out of hlgg, I refuse to give that woman money

>> No.59211788

>>59211747
Jokes on you, I'm just parroting what I learned elsewhere.

>> No.59211802

>>59211660
What is there to announce for Council? They already have the 3D showcase and merch

>> No.59211803

>>59209883
Marine is the only one competent at tapping into markets outside of the tiny vtuber audience

>> No.59211814

>>59210744
Which Hololive girl would Flare have been a better fit as?

>> No.59211830

>>59211802
Group song probably

>> No.59211840

>>59211803
>the tiny vtuber audience
compared to fukkin what, the NFL?

>> No.59211843

>>59211788
>parroting what I learned elsewhere.
Not even making shit up with your own creativity
/#/ is declining

>> No.59211860

>nerissa collabs a lot
>STOP COLLABING
>shiori doesn't collab with anyone
>DO SOME COLLABS

>> No.59211868

>>59210872
This is a dwarf thread
Tree huggers go and stay go

>> No.59211878

>>59211774
>>59211860
THERE IS A FUCKING MIDDLE GROUND. YOU DO NOT SEE ANYONE BITCHING AT MUMEI COLLABING YOU FUCKING COCK GOBBLER. EVERY SINGLE FUCKING WEEK SHE HAS LIKE 3-4 COLLABS AND MAYBE 1 OR 2 PUBLIC STREAMS SOLO.

>> No.59211881

>>59211776
Actually a bit grim. Was there something wrong with the cover or is the ID debuff really just that strong?

>> No.59211894

>>59211840
people who listen to music

>> No.59211895
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The cringe meter is off the chart

>> No.59211903

>>59211840
Yes
That's the main difference between the JP market and the en market, it's not mainstream in en

>> No.59211911

>>59211843
Normal people don't do that anon

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>>59211541
KAF is doing pretty well too

>> No.59211919

>>59211782
>>59211788
you're all just using /#/ as a secondary thread

>> No.59211927

>>59211878
Seems like she's just happy to be in Hololive and is saying yes to everyone. Most collabs have been on others channels.

>> No.59211932

>>59211728
Concerning lack of cleavage

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Rissa love!

>> No.59211958

>>59211843
If I want to shitpost I'll just maliciously twist the words of someone in an ongoing stream that not a lot of people here would be watching, it usually works a lot better.

>> No.59211961

>>59211878
neck yourself retard, putting your text on all caps doesn't further your point

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>>59211536
>Both Fauna and Mumei cancelled streams today

>> No.59211977
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What the fuck is a goofy moom

>> No.59212000

>>59211774
I hate dumb hyperbolic retards so fucking much

>> No.59212005

>>59211919
As do most people, which is why when the thread goes to shit people just fuck off instead of staying here posting anyway

>> No.59212022

>>59211814
>Which Hololive girl would Flare have been a better fit as?
NTA but
I think this is an insanely hard question for anyone who has watched Flare quite a bit for years
Flare is Flare. A cool black woman.
Anything else isn't Flare. Too late to reimagine her to something else.

>> No.59212028

>>59211903
Japan is a nation of over eighty million people and the absolute peak of Vtubing numbers in the land of the Rising Sun has been 400k (with EN audience support, to boot)

>> No.59212033

>>59211977
it's like a moom, but more goofy.

>> No.59212039

>>59211919
There's literally no such thing as a /#/ native.

>> No.59212040

>>59203672
Cross-post, I know, but what's something "Interesting" Vtuber can do in EN market?

>> No.59212041

>>59211977
"I'm gonna have commemorative sex tonight and can't stream"

>> No.59212048
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Mumei is heading to an abortion clinic
but you didn't hear this from me

>> No.59212076

>>59211977
She forgot about something that was due today (either cover or university related) and now needs to rush it

>> No.59212080

>>59211432
Wave, Listen to Me
I found it fun

>> No.59212082

>>59211958
actually it's a good strategy
but it requires you to watch stream
so it's a bad strategy

>> No.59212090

>>59212028
More like the land of the falling yen

>> No.59212091

Looks like ironmouse wins today woth 9.5k then lmfao

>> No.59212100

>>59212039
>we're the United States of /vt/
Melting pot...

>> No.59212105

>>59212028
Anon the 400k stream is because the entire nation of Taiwan tuning in to see their Jesus live, it's not a Japan thing

>> No.59212108

>>59211895
Man, JP branch just doesn't even care what these miscreants do, and I can't fathom why they just gave up/never cared.

>> No.59212131

>>59212048
that abortion? me.

>> No.59212138

>>59211802
Bae said it was a big special announcement, but that could mean anything (also just Council, not IRyS)

>> No.59212144

>>59212100
I prefer the term crossroads of /vt/

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>>59211918
Lol, did a quick check and her #1 view source...

>> No.59212172

>>59208907
>This is a 3rd, the generation of miracles member

>> No.59212175

MORI GOLD NUMBERGODS IT'S NOT OVER YET

>> No.59212178

Now that the dust has settled. Advent isn't that bad of an addition. It solves many of the issue with EN
>restore CGDCT to the forefront of HoloEN
>solve the dead hour with more streams
>gave us an endurance streamer, something people have been asking for
Their failure is not being able to bring high number to HoloEN, but it's too much to ask them to restore HoloEN to pre-Covid. As for yuropoors, they can go fuck themselves

>> No.59212197

>>59208907
No dance sequence, not fast-passed, so the tiktok thots who flock to Marine don't care, Quality MV or not.

>> No.59212225

>>59212146
KEK

>> No.59212228

>>59212178
Pretty much yeah
They don't solve the "Euro dead hours" but no one's jumping on that landmine

>> No.59212231

>>59208907
No wonder she was a jealous bitch at Rushia when she got terminated.

>> No.59212235

>>59208907
fine, I'll check it out
give me 5 minutes

>> No.59212249

>>59212105
Who do Taiwanbros mostly follow nowadays that Coco is gone? Don't say Haachama because she's gone too

>> No.59212255

>>59212197
Every single Holo original is going to have a meme dance like Marine or Ui now, huh

>> No.59212261

>>59212005
i'm actually a /lig/ refugee

>> No.59212262

>>59211932
Cover gave her more of a Y, but not as much as it deserves.

>> No.59212271

>>59212028
125 million, jesus it takes 2 seconds to google

>> No.59212298
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>>59211955
Novelites and jailbirds own this thread.

>> No.59212309

>>59212040
the important thing is the pitch. It needs to be something where people can tell their friends, hey check it out this person is doing x, and the x has to be something interesting enough that their friend doesn't care who the person is, they want to watch because x sounds interesting

the JPs have been better at occasionally doing this, think about when they've done stuff that fits

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>>59212175
You love to see it

>> No.59212345

>>59212146
Not that surprising. Suisei has Jakarta as her 2nd most listened city on Spotify, and wouldn't bet on it being lower on YT.

>> No.59212362
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59212362

Alright, got here on time. I'm ready to moom.

>> No.59212363

>>59211671
I'm telling you, this is the curse of hiring big fans, she wants to hang out with all the girls she watched before getting in.

>> No.59212379

>>59212100
more like the grand bazaar

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>>59212345
And that's where you're wrong

>> No.59212386

>>59212138
>Bae said it was a big special announcement, but that could mean anything (also just Council, not IRyS)
Probably something disappointing like an original group song.

>> No.59212397

>>59212362
Ha ha, yeah...

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>>59212362

>> No.59212400

>>59212090
Kek
Yeah the economy is finally starting to bottom out after over three decades of being stuck in a holding pattern. And you can thank chinkflu for finally breaking it

>> No.59212401

>>59212362
anon...

>> No.59212409

>>59212146
SEAGODS can never stop winning
They'd rather watch Suisei than their own chuubas, very based desu

>> No.59212411

>>59209413
It’s a racing Battle Royale. Like an Apex graph but each race is like 5 minutes. Same happened with Pekora’s.

>> No.59212415

>>59212249
Usual top JPs like Suisei and Miko. For EN right now it's KroMei.
>>/vt/thread/53096893#p53100411
There's also that sticker poll from a con early this year but I don't have the pic

>> No.59212422

>>59212271
My knowledge of Japan is literally locked to the Imperial Japanese era, please forgive me, I am a slut for the retardation of the IJA/N

>> No.59212430

>>59212362
Hooman...

>> No.59212431

>>59212312
MOOOOOOOOOOODS

>> No.59212448

>>59212409
No anonchama, that's Kaf's viewership

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>>59212397
>>59212399
>>59212401
>>59212430
Ahhh fuck let me just go kill myself

>> No.59212463

>>59212386
>disappointing
>like an original group song.
Shit taste desu

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>>59208907
>mogged by the homos
kek

>> No.59212475

>>59211432
Jujutsu

>> No.59212486

>>59211919
>you're all just using /#/ as a secondary thread
Name me a thread that is more multipurpose than /#/

- can numberfag
- can tribalfag
- can post lewd
- can have normal or controversial discussions, sometimes
- the haven for discord raids
- dox could stay for long depending on hours
- "we love mori/kronii here"
- can export baits to catalog
- can work as mini /pol/
- is a refugee center
- is also uuu2, who2, baubau2
- can also discuss homos, have more traffic than /mans/
- can write your fanfic here

>> No.59212489
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59212489

https://twitter.com/hirotaka0125/status/1706130072594497859

>> No.59212500

>>59212468
>8 months ago
Do you really

>> No.59212501
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>>59212455
Could I interest you in a child rock as a consolation prize?

>> No.59212513

>>59212468
This is what Splatoon does to your algorithm, take note.

>> No.59212526

>>59212381
Actually interesting. Wonder if it's a result of result of differential demographics using the two services, since Spotify has a cracked android API that I know thirdies love to use, or Spotify breaks up Japan into too many cities like it does the US whereas it just lumps ID into a big bucket.

>> No.59212538

>>59212489
UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

>> No.59212550

>>59212255
If they want easy views, yes. Other less crazy examples, both from the runt of EN: Holotori Dance and Do U. Both pulled good numbers, both have dance sequences.

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>>59212362

>> No.59212591

>>59212501
Rock good second place I guess
Subbed to her after portal autism

>> No.59212603

>>59208636
>>59209064
The con season for this year is nearly over. NYCC and AnimeNYC are the last 2 big cons of the year. There are still a lot of smaller cons left but 80% of the cons for the year are already over.

Anime Expo is the biggest anime con of the year and that's in July in 80-100 degree LA weather. Connect the world was held at the same time as the convention and last year they had a large Hololive booth at the convention itself.

Fubuki, Risu, Kroni, Kiara, and Kobo were at Anime Boston in april this year. Last year all of EN (Myth + CouncilRys) + ID were at Crunchyroll Expo in August.

>> No.59212606

>>59212501
Might as well since I already bought snacks for moomtime

>> No.59212618

>>59212040
Find something reasonably unique and make an earnest effort:
Make music Kanata style
Play music Luna style
Excel at games Aqua style
Quality MC builds Flare style
Ring fit karaoke Suisei style
Lullaby ASMR Okayu style
Massive gaming endurance Korone style
Regional mukbang Pekora style
Science experiments Nene style
Travel vlog Polka style
Soothing night radio Lamy style
Cultural enrichment Raden style
Quality art Ina style
Quality cooking Choco / Lui style

>> No.59212625

my retarded JP wife gonna save me from loneliness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8KaUwmB79k

>> No.59212632
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>>59212500
how about this then?

>> No.59212640

>>59212431
Every NSFW part is completely covered, right?

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>>59212526
Looks like they break down JP and ID into different cities too. I don't think you can see a full breakdown in the spotify page though, someone might have a different site for it.

>> No.59212672

>No Mooms
So the dogs get cripple gold today?

>> No.59212673
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59212673

akutan was playing apex at 4AM...

>> No.59212680

>>59212603
>The con season for this year is nearly over.
In the states maybe, in SEA con season just started and is going to last till Christmas

>> No.59212683

>>59209778
She live tweeted every Council showcase and the ReGloss debuts.

>> No.59212697

>>59212603
I'm excited for Anime Boston this year, I bet that they go again, it's a strong convention.
Literally had to bust out spy gear shit to archive the panels for people here, but fucking hell it was fun to do it

>> No.59212735

>>59212640
Yeah best hope the mods have the same thought

>> No.59212743

>>59212040
simple answer

EN version of JP first army
They are the archetypes of vtubers' final evolutions or forms

>> No.59212760

>>59212697
i thank you for your services anon, i enjoyed them

>> No.59212765

>>59212672
they were always going to get cripple gold with fuwamoco morning

>> No.59212790
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59212790

Lyrica, the kawaii sensitive genius is starting!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQyryEsQh24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQyryEsQh24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQyryEsQh24

>> No.59212800

>>59212632
>12k views/day vs 30k views/day
flare wins what's your point?

>> No.59212805

>>59212672
Ririka could get it

>> No.59212833

>>59212040
unironically get gura to do something new. She's the only EN vtuber that can incline the scene in the west

>> No.59212836

>>59212790
IT'S RIRIKA

>> No.59212869

>>59211927
>Most collabs have been on others channels.
This is why it's bad, no exposure from the other talent fanbase in your channel, but since it was bae ollie iofi , I can forgive her, don't want those shitter fanbase shitting on Nerissa's chat

>> No.59212878

>>59210821
> Thai “women”

>> No.59212886

Sex with SNO

>> No.59212902

>>59212655
Yea, my question is if Japan has so much higher listenership on YT Music for Suisei, I would have expected it + Taiwan to push Jakarta out of the top 5 list. However, I know in the US, Spotify doesn't round you off to the nearest metropolitan area or even somewhat notable city since I had a pet 2view who I'd show up in the top 5 for in my town of 50k people as a listener of 1. I wonder if Japan gets sliced up equally as small, which would let Jakarta find a place despite being 1/20th of the nominal viewership Suisei has in Japan.

>> No.59212909

Nerissa addressed some of the comments here, I am paraphrasing

Why 2 hours?
>I feel I can only entertain for 2 hours and then struggle to find stuff to talk about.
Why so many collabs?
>My forte is talking and having a partner makes it easy
More solo streams
>I like to do them as member streams because in public ones I find it hard to read and respond to chat, is too fast, and I usually tend to talk to myself. Now that debut month is over maybe is going to get easier.

>> No.59212916

>>59212869
Hey remember when we asked what you wanted?

>> No.59212919

>>59212886
I don't think there's a single EN I wouldn't have sex with

>> No.59212925

>>59212805
Kek when Ririka get demoted to cripple tally?

>> No.59212928

>>59212805
was Ririka finally demoted to the EN branch?

>> No.59212948
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Mumei?

>> No.59212955
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>>59212790
Ok

>> No.59212953

>>59212632
that's a whole branch collab song kek

>> No.59212977

>>59212415
KroMei isn’t a real ship, anyone that watches streams knows that.

>> No.59212978

>>59212501
I'm filtered by Fromsoft AND mecha slop so no thanks

>> No.59212989

>>59212909
>I'm a shit streamer

Why was she hired

>> No.59212988

>>59212100
>we're the United States of /vt/
Both /vt/ and US are being infested by trannies

Same desu

>> No.59212997

>>59212925 (me)
when did*

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>>59212925
>>59212928
>demoted
please don't insult my wife that way, she's working very hard to qualify for her citizenship test so that she can finally move to the States and become my husband

>> No.59213018

>>59212144
I prefer public use urinal

>> No.59213021

>>59212028
you can make the same arguemnt for literally everything
top twitch streamers are 2M ccv max with a population of 1B english speakers and 1B spanish

>> No.59213031

>>59212909
Fuck this is actually activating my saviorfag instincts...

>> No.59213033
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Devis should compete in cripple tally, they're like international branch

>> No.59213034

>>59212989
NTA, keep seething fat cunt

>> No.59213040

>>59212790
Lyrica, my beloved kawaii, sensitive, genius girl.

>> No.59213051

>>59212312
Looks like an infected armpit

>> No.59213066

>>59213021
You could easily do that, yes, which is why it's entirely fair to say that twitch streamers are not mainstream

>> No.59213076

>>59212909
>I feel I can only entertain for 2 hours and then struggle to find stuff to talk about.
so why the fuck are you a streamer???

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>>59212673
can't sleep without that demotion series adrenaline rush

>> No.59213091

>>59213018
There are no women in this thread

>> No.59213095

>>59212909
This is fake right?
>My forte is talking about I struggle to find stuff to talk about
?

>> No.59213103

https://twitter.com/harusakinodoka/status/1706130998575210556
https://twitter.com/harusakinodoka/status/1706130998575210556
https://twitter.com/harusakinodoka/status/1706130998575210556

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>>59212625
when does this onion sleep?

>> No.59213110

>>59213033
nah kanade is just waiting for her first paycheck to get out of her shitty gook country

>> No.59213124

>>59213033
Raden would win every single day she streams, it's not fair

>> No.59213128

>>59213076
>2 hours is bad

>> No.59213145

>>59213033
international language doko

>> No.59213153

>>59212680
Yah I'm heading to AFA and SGCC this year

>> No.59213163

>>59213095
but*

>>59213103
Why?

>> No.59213165

>>59213095
Is what she feels, that after 2 hours she gets weaker or more boring, I don't know, woman mentality I guess

>> No.59213173

>>59212673
oh fuck i forgot to check that today

>> No.59213180

>>59212909
Well at least compensate it with fucking Karaoke stream / cover ori song upload

>> No.59213181

>>59213076
>>59213095
Have you actually noticed ANYONE carrying a stream for 2 hours straight with talking? It's usually auto-commentary, nothing original. It's very obvious she means original talking.

>> No.59213192

La+

>> No.59213214

>>59212625
It's not fun when Baqua gets serious

>> No.59213212
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>>59212909
Nerissa should take notes from Mumei, who was an absolute wreck during her first few months

>> No.59213218

>>59211895
>>59211953
THE MOST

>> No.59213223

>>59213153
Is HoloMeet coming to SGCC?

>> No.59213224

>>59213095
She's been talking non stop for like 2 hours in her members stream and stopped for like 15 seconds to take a drink. I think she can talk forever, just not while playing a game.

>> No.59213230

>>59213180
There is an English cover coming in a few days

>> No.59213234
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>>59213033
But Raden + Hajime are too japanese so they are in global tally.
Then my wife Kanade, a rightful gook, can sweep every day

>> No.59213249

>>59213076
This is a really dumb comment anon. Some of the biggest vtubers ever historically are 2-3hr long streamers. Suisei and Laplus are notorious for their 1hr long streams.
Suisei unironically did 1hr long streams for like 6 months straight. Even Marine is typically a 2hr long streamer with extra time for SCs afterwards

>> No.59213252

>>59213181
Shiori

>> No.59213268

>>59213108
right now
imagine the smell

>> No.59213280

>>59212909
Did she address the fact that she's Kiara's minion?

>> No.59213279

>>59212632
>comparing Banger with Flare song
what is he thinking

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>>59212902
If we're going by YT Music's standards, then even Tokyo is split into its different wards for the individual city statistics, and for some reason even Taipei does not exist in there. Maybe there are more than 1 city for Taiwan being counted too.

>> No.59213297

>>59213181
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS08-NZIkBE

>> No.59213305

>>59212683
Still not a hololive fan she is just doing her reps to get there

>> No.59213318

>>59213280
Why bring up something that's so obvious

>> No.59213319

>>59213280
she did in fact have a Kiara masturbation session this stream, yes

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>>59213124
That's where you're wrong, last samurai chama.
...Hajime will be competitive, too.

>> No.59213332

>>59213252
k great dipshit, you cited an exception. I can probably name a few others.
Doesn't change the fact that's not the rule and it's not how Nerissa feels. Are you being dense on purpose?

>> No.59213340

>>59212909
I swear every passing day she gets worse

>> No.59213355

>>59213076
She basically had almost 0 stream experience compared to the rest of advent and even council. I think Mori is the only one who had a similar lack of experience when she debuted

>> No.59213358
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59213358

do you prefer when a streamer grind ranked off-stream or they just have to stream all of their games?

>> No.59213367

>>59212909
>I find it hard to read and respond to chat, is too fast,
Is it really hard to pick one comment in the sea of emotes?

>> No.59213372

>>59212909
appreciate the honesty from her
mostly her shit gaming style and kiara antics have been filtering
maybe she'll figure it out soon and the karaoke gives her a nice confidence boost

>> No.59213375

>>59213318
>>59213319
Still not subscribing to her channel then

>> No.59213386

>>59213280
Because is the only stream going on at the morning while she does other stuff

>> No.59213388

>>59212489
T o T

>> No.59213400

>>59213297
And over half of this is auto-commentary, as I said.

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Biboo is negotiating with when to do it with her pebbles on stream

>> No.59213416

>>59213033
What is international about Raden?

>> No.59213430

>>59213192
what about lapras?

>> No.59213440

>>59212909
Rissa: my forte is talking
Rissa: but after 2 hours I struggle to find stuff to talk about

Nice forte you have there, Rissa.

>> No.59213445

Hey guys, just throwing out some spoilers, gold tonight is Aquapex and gold tomorrow is Raden karaoke.

>> No.59213451

>>59213375
All she said was what type of streamer she watched while describing what kind of streamer she was. She just said Kiara was something nice to have on in the background while she worked and that was the kind of streamer she liked.

>> No.59213456

Of all the talented 2views, the pick these people for advent...

>> No.59213486
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I can't believe ENbros are actually scared going against Regloss lmao
like they're not even 300k subs chuubas

>> No.59213494

>>59213456
By far the best choices out of the available candidates

>> No.59213502

>>59213358
anon there's another option there
they can stream some of their ranked games when they feel like it
i don't need to see every game of the ranked grind

>> No.59213514

>>59213440
She's been talking for over two hours in her members stream just fine though. Her first members stream was the same, nonstop talking.

>> No.59213519

>>59213223
No, only AFA, they're doing to a malaysia con after AFA

>> No.59213532

>>59213445
I thought Raden couldn't sin- Ohh, is that kind of Karaoke...

>> No.59213548

>>59213400
Not really. I just jumped to random moments and she's talking about math exams and how to get a job and other random shit. Fauna doesn't do auto-commentary that much she just talks about whatever random shit pops up in her head.

>> No.59213550

>>59213486
anyone would be scared of the smoka empress and the babu queen.

>> No.59213557

>>59213532
Please enjoy the newest inauguration of the HoloSOVL idol group

>> No.59213559

>>59213514
Women, amaright?

>> No.59213567

EN4 is doomed then, based on the people chosen by Jap for EN3

>> No.59213571
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59213571

>>59212909
this has to be fake

>> No.59213572

>>59213340
>I swear every passing day she gets worse
To be a (normal) anon I try not to see things in negative light too much.
But Rissa somehow throws something new at me everyday

>> No.59213578

>>59213289
Which points to different demographics, probably, since you'd expect all those top cities to push Jakarta out on Spotify even setting aside whether they're breaking down Tokyo to it's individual wards, since I know I've seen Hong Kong on Spotify's lists before and yet it's not in Suisei's list. Kind of interesting stuff, but so much guess work since things aren't transparent enough on how they're handling the data.

>> No.59213585

>>59213456
This might be the first time I've seen genuine 2view jealousy seethe and not thinly veiled seethe, thanks for being honest at least.

>> No.59213603

She's really NGMI if she's stuck in that mentality that she shouldn't get better and should just do weekly member streams for most solo content. She NEEDS to learn how to bounce off chat, she can't keep collabing forever.

>> No.59213609

>>59213445
>Onyan gold
Hajimes monetization is today Anon.

>> No.59213625

>>59213567
mad because you didn't get in or what

>> No.59213634

>>59213456
I mean, who would be better?

>> No.59213639

>>59213494
Yep. The EN scene that applies to holo is pretty grim, most of the candidates get too submerged in twitch culture and decide to stay there. Though I think there's one that would've been a good pick, but she's making bank as an indie right now.

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>>59213456
Let me guess: It should've been you?

>> No.59213661

>>59213634
Beryl

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59213662

>>59213289
>Jakarta
Jakarta.

>> No.59213664

>>59213609
Onyon could make a genuine push for masters tonight or in her next stream if she keeps playing like she does.

>> No.59213670

>>59213456
Gonna drop a link to your channel or what?

>> No.59213673

>>59213603
it hasn't even been 2 months, stop doomposting

>> No.59213679

>>59213548
>I did some cherry picking!
STFU

>> No.59213682

>>59213639
who? Nyana Banyana?

>> No.59213708

>>59213661
She'll be in JP7, anon.

>> No.59213721
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>>59213486
Hajime is strong Banchou and she would only compete in the real league

>> No.59213725

>>59213661
She's going to VShojo.

>> No.59213747

RAID YOUR KOUHAI YOU DIMB RAT

>> No.59213750

>>59213661
She would instantly have the wort speaking voice in Hololive. As bad as Bae or Kiara. It would be like an Enna situation.

>> No.59213756

>>59213639
I mean, as an EN vtuber, you are better off staying indie since there's no other choice left. Vshojo is an exclusive premium club, NijiEN is nearly dead and HoloEN is dying.

>> No.59213770

>>59213180
>Well at least compensate it with fucking Karaoke stream / cover ori song upload
Being an EN
Focusing on the path of a singer

IRyS has shown me enough. I don't need to see the ending of Rissa.

>> No.59213803

>>59213756
Absurdist post

>> No.59213815

>>59213682
Nah, it's an already established one. No beef with holo, I think, but she's enjoying her current thing.

>> No.59213822

>>59213770
If IRyS "focused on the path of a singer" her throat wouldn't fucking die once a year because she decides to stream for 8 hours every other day.

>> No.59213828

Bae about to raid Mori! (she was going to raid Mumei but she delayed her stream)

>> No.59213833

>>59209934
>He should do it on his stream where his viewers actually watch him.
>Anon thinks beggar watch stream
Rookie mistake

>> No.59213834

>>59213567
I wonder if they should try a Produce type survival show for EN4, would drum up a lot of interest.

>> No.59213869

>>59213747
>DIMB
Dimb anon

>> No.59213902
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59213902

Surely you guys going to watch rat 3D showcase right? You guys love numbers right? Help her reach 50k please..

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59213909

>>59213661
if only
where the fuck is she going aaaaa

>> No.59213912

>>59210133
that's where most holostar "fans" are

>> No.59213918

>>59209708
>/#/ bought into the unicorn and catalogfag's psyops
Color me surprised

>> No.59213924

>>59213902
of course

>> No.59213961

>>59213918
>therefore homobeggars are right and she should suck dick on screen

>> No.59213967

>>59213902
50k guaranteed, saplings are getting btfo for the 4th time

>> No.59213986

>>59213902
Only if she invites Roberu.

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>>59213902
anyone who thinks she isn't hitting 50k minimum is coping
Bae has tourism within her yet
At the very least, people will want to fuck the rrat
No ill will towards Fauna whatsoever, but she has by far the least tourism of Council and still hit her 50k, I don't see a future where Bae can't

>> No.59214038

>>59212989
She can sing.

>> No.59214042

>>59210164
No

>> No.59214083

>>59213986
but robert can't sing...

>> No.59214107

>>59213750
depends on the model they give her, if something like Rissa her natural voice would fit very well

>> No.59214117

>>59213993
That's a nice rock.

>> No.59214122

>>59213993
What was council 3d debut numbers?

>> No.59214123

>>59213902
She has that little bit of JP mindshare to coast to 50K. I'd be very surprised if she manages to end up as the runt.

>> No.59214128

I'll fully admit I'm a tourist to this general, but there's a question I've always been curious about. Especially in the case of Hololive, why so much focus on CCVs, and to a lesser extent subs? You all would know better than I would, but aren't there JP members whose numbers have been "grim" since practically the very beginning? I remember that being a pretty big part of Aki's arc, for instance. Clearly Cover doesn't care, because they're still there. I don't think I can even think of a single example of Cover dropping a talent just because they couldn't pull the requisite numbers.

Is it just that CCVs and subs are easy numbers to track, so you use what you have? Conversely, from a business perspective, isn't most of Cover's revenue from SCs and memberships? Genuinely asking questions, hope I'm not coming across as trying to shitpost.

>> No.59214153

>>59213803
I'm not wrong though. Unless you're friends with Vshojo, you can't get it. For NijiEN, you can see the numbers dropping to low 3view already.
And for HoloEN, the situation is grim as fuck because morale is low and the numbers are dropping. Plus, you are always busy with Cover homework and flying to Japan. Nobody wants that.
Staying indie and attracting twitch crowd is the best option

>> No.59214161

Is it possible to save / incline Nerissa? I know she's in Hololive therefore she doesn't need saving but man it's getting worse

>> No.59214163
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59214163

>>59214117
Thanks, I want to put my dick in it really badly

>> No.59214168

>>59214107
They hired Shiori so clearly the voice not matching doesn't really matter.

>> No.59214186

>>59213567
>EN4 is doomed then
2 months in is still a little bit early to determine the true value of Advent.
Council in first 2 months looked promising.
Also 2 months Ollie.

There is no Gura among Advent. So the value of Advent relies on how much they can improve the culture of EN branch.

>> No.59214196

>>59213961
Feeling called out anon?

>> No.59214230

>>59214196
No. I won.

>> No.59214232

>>59214168
What are you talking about, shiori's voice matches her model perfectly

>> No.59214246

>>59214128
CCV horseracing is the most fun thing to do in /#/, and that's bled into pretty much everything else.

>> No.59214255

>>59214161
Karaoke, release more covers/orisongs

>> No.59214259

i like it when mococo un un

>> No.59214260

>>59214230
Won what?

>> No.59214262

>>59214186
If this is Advent 2 months in then HoloEN is fucking dead. The numbers are so grim.

>> No.59214265

>>59213268
imagine the smell of her panties after 10 hours of sweaty apex

>> No.59214268

>>59214128
>isn't most of Cover's revenue from SCs and memberships
It's merch and sponsorship
As to why ccv? It's horse race like number, I love seeing Niji small numbers mogged by Holo big number almost everyday

>> No.59214273

IDEA: Force ReGloss girls to stream english once a month so we can register them in cripple tally.
Then EN numbers will be ultra secured, will have a good singer finally and will even get like 1 global gold every month. And Ririka finally gets the EOP audience she wants. Everyone happy!

>> No.59214291

>>59214161
Don't suck at the next karaoke
Collab within the fucking company
Play a real game you've never played before and don't lie about it
Stop fawning over your coworkers like a ravenous retard

>> No.59214299

>>59214128
Because it's easy to take a screencap from vrabi and make a shitpost out of it

>> No.59214305

>>59214260
You should ask Vesper and Magni that for the answer.

>> No.59214320

>>59214128
Your first mistake is actually taking this thread seriously.

>> No.59214331

>>59214305
Who?

>> No.59214340

>>59214153
>morale is low
>numbers are dropping
What numbers are you talking about?
Their events are doing better than last year

>> No.59214356

>>59214268
Hololive is losing merch and sponorships to Nijisanji

>> No.59214381

>>59213902
she will get 50K retard
suisei and pekora will be her guest

>> No.59214382

No 6k from holoen today
The decline is real

>> No.59214421

>>59208976
Even his fan know that he can't stand on his own and resort to leeching FWMC

>> No.59214424

>>59214161
She just needs a bigger range on her streaming personality. It doesn't always have to be turned up to 11 on the horni. Even Marine doesn't do that. 7 or 8 is about the ceiling, then she has to find other/supplement with other narrative directions. Ironically, it'll solve her, "I have nothing to talk about," problem, too.

>> No.59214448
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59214448

>>59214163
>fucking a rock
shame that houseki no kuni came first

>> No.59214449

>>59214128
Yes. They are also good metrics for the imaginary horse racing. But to your second point, no. Most of Cover's revenue right now is from events (Fes and other concerts), collaborations and most importantly merch. Live streaming provides a pretty steady stream of revenue but that's it. They have been transitioning to a more traditional revenue mix stream (for an ACG company)for a while now.

>> No.59214463

>>59214186
Culture of EN branch isn't going to change just look how fast the small amount of motivation everyone had to stream vanished after 2 weeks. Its only been 2 months its only going to get more grim.

>> No.59214466

>>59214262
>If this is Advent 2 months in then HoloEN is fucking dead
Hold your verdict there. The official honeymoon period is like 3 months.

>> No.59214482

>>59213902
She will get 80k with Suisei, Sora and Pekora

>> No.59214496

>>59214331
Exactly.

>> No.59214510

>>59214356
>2% cut

>> No.59214519

>>59214153
Anon the writing general is two blocks down

>> No.59214549

Biboo has been taking about raden

>> No.59214566

>>59214161
I'm buying Rissa's stocks right now since she's at an all time low. Vtuber who starts at a blank slate has the most potential. Just look at Subaru or Miko who started small and grew more comfortable streaming. Sometimes you have experience streamers with stable floor but poor potential for growth, so a fresh face can be molded into a decent vtuber.
All of her issues are fixable. Right now she's not fast enough to cherry pick funny comments in chat, but she can study under other senpai for that banter. She doesn't play a lot of games, so she can leverage that inexperience into something entertaining. The potential is limitless.

>> No.59214570

>>59214496
No really who?

>> No.59214579

>>59214448
oi
they're gems you fuck

>> No.59214590

>>59214510
I'm talking about the company though, not the livers

>> No.59214602

>>59214466
Isn't it a bad sign then that its looking this bad in the "honeymoon period"

>> No.59214606

>>59214128
CCV is the best metric to track engagement and streamer's quality
SC can be the result of heavy GFE pandering, Merchs can be the result of heavy promotion and good design, VOD can be the result of a very short clippable moment, views can be the result of music cover, even subs can be dead sub.
CCV is the best for tracking how well you are doing as a streamer, How well you can attract people to your stream and how long you can make them stay.

>> No.59214608

>>59214153
>The situation is grim as fuck
>Morale is low
Damn anon, apparently being the 2nd/3rd biggest vtuber branch in the entire world who get tens of thousands watching every day and record high event numbers is somehow shit?

Seriously, unless you're just some faggot shitposter, go get a fucking life guy. You have zero idea what you're talking about and you're coming off as one of the 60 iq retards in this thread who fall for rrats and horserace posting.

>> No.59214626

>>59214466
holy kino, how low can we get?

>> No.59214630

>>59214340
>Their events are doing better than last year
Are we really going to pretend that Mumei wasn't saved by JP members.

>> No.59214644

>>59213902
Marine and Suisei are a guaranteed. Maybe she can get Mio or Roberu to round out the last spot.

>> No.59214654

>>59214570
>pretending to be this new because that BTFO
oh am i laffin

>> No.59214684
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It's been 24 hours. So why did Mumei get that much SCs?

>> No.59214685
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Reminder there are seething 2views ITT right now.

>> No.59214688

>>59214424
She rarely does the horny shit any more, not sure why people keep bringing it up

>> No.59214712

>>59214606
This. Regardless of how it may be used for company purposes, it's a nice tool to see how well a streamer does.

>> No.59214716

>>59213494
Beryl...

>> No.59214717

>Reimu in Mori's chat
Is she still trying this leeching bit, has it worked for her at all these past years

>> No.59214725
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59214725

Hololives strongest cheerleader

>> No.59214731

>>59214688
>but, bruh, she changed
Which means she's already improving so why are you butthurt?

>> No.59214745

>>59214128
Cover would never drop anyone so that's a dumb point. Subs and to a much lesser extent subs are what cover uses to measure success and it's what leads to girls getting oppurtunities and why others don't. It's why Pekora is getting a sololive and other girls are not. It's why Myth are always getting new sponsorships cafe collabs and council aren't

>> No.59214763

>>59213902
Of course. I love rratsis.

>> No.59214766

>EN is doomed yet again
You guys really need some new material, come into this thread any time of day and it's the same thing. There could be a bunch of hype streams in JP hours and you'll still be talking about how EN is dead/dying/doomed.

>> No.59214767

>>59214630
Didn't EN get Pekora and Marine last year?
What a massive incline

>> No.59214771

NFL Numbers
PIT 23
LV 18

>> No.59214783

>>59214448
i loved dia so much.....

>> No.59214788

>>59214463
>only been 2 months its only going to get more grim.
Not necessarily. Some holos like koyo, peko, miko, shuba can keep being passionate.
If a holo's motivation decays quickly in a year she's is not a suitable candidate for holo. But yea EN branch....

>> No.59214803

>>59214771
70 20

>> No.59214808

>>59208907
ok i just watched it
the song is nothing special but the mv is extremely good, this deserves way more views but sadly there is no justice in this world

>> No.59214812

>>59214725
SEX

>> No.59214813

>>59214128
CCV is good for horse racing because the rankings always change. Sadly, some take it too seriously.
IMO, good streamers normally tend to have high viewership. That's where CCV comes to play.
However, the end game of companies is revenue or profits. Even with shit CCV, if their IP sells, then good. It is more about the ability to sell, regardless of the ability to provide quality streams.

>> No.59214822

>>59214766
But this time we have one year to grimpost, so you better get ready because we ain't leaving

>> No.59214823

>>59214717
it's working with Nerissa

>> No.59214826

>>59214725
>emo goth playing at being a cute and bubbly idol
Can't wait to see what she does in Fes6.

>> No.59214854

>>59214813
>good streamers normally tend to have high viewership.
All of EN is terrible then.

>> No.59214859

>>59208907
I didn't even know this was released. How much of the numbers is boosted/blocked by YouTube algo being a bitch and a lack of exposure versus actual quality?

>> No.59214861

>>59214767
>Didn't EN get Pekora and Marine last year
Gura did, big difference.

>> No.59214866

>>59214725
>shiori on idol outfit

seggs

>> No.59214867

>>59214823
What's working? It led to nothing

>> No.59214869

who will win tonight? roberu's anniversary stream or FWMC morning? The answer will surprise you.
t.anon from the future

>> No.59214873

>>59214826
She will have graduated by then

>> No.59214886

>>59214766
I warned you about the grimniggers bro

>> No.59214896

>>59214873
t. seething 2view

>> No.59214897

>>59214684
>Roughly a million yen for a 3D Showcase
IDK, doesn't seem that much to me. It's not bad, but not anything super amazing either

>> No.59214908

>>59214717
The ship has sailed for mori leeching she just did an interview where she said she wasn't interested in collabing outside of hololive anymore

>> No.59214913

>>59214128
CCV is the number to determine the quality of a streamer's content/the capacity of a streamer to draw in an audience, which is pivotal for success
Subscribers are THE mindchair number, and mainly of use for things like investor meetings and getting sponsorships, because big wigs like subscriptions and understand them easily.
Cover's exceptionally nice as a company and doesn't fire anyone because "firing people" is bad for the brand, and will only go out and do that for extreme cases (Rushia). Numbers will never be low enough to qualify as an extreme reason.
Cover's main revenue source is not so much "Superchats and Memberships" (although those are a significant percentage of profits, they are not an overwhelmingly large segment), but their merch sales (which are HUGE). THAT is where the money is at the moment. SCs and Memberships are probably #3 and #4 in revenue, behind Merch at #1 and Sponsorships at #2.

>> No.59214921
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59214921

[News]
Cover feels sorry for EN and will force 3 JPs of your choice to join EN branch. Which will you choose?

>> No.59214928

>>59214606
>CCV is the best metric to track engagement and streamer's quality
You can't possible believe this holy fuck LMAO

CCV has almost nothing to do with quality of a streamer. It never has and historically among all places of livestreaming this has never, EVER been a accurate statement. Some of the most famous streamers ever have been touted as lazy, uncaring and have no fucks to give. Forsen might be a bigger name than all of hololive combined with the exception of Gura and the dude is silent 95% of the stream.

The only accurate thing that CCV tracks is how many are interested in tuning in. That's it. It has nothing to do with quality or value amongst a streamer. Luna might be one of the worst streamers in all of hololive yet she's a 10k+ ccv streamer. It's literally just the size of the box that uplifts her, nothing more. It has nothing to do with quality or engagement

>> No.59214945

>>59214771
>NFL vs NFL

>> No.59214949
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WE HAVE A FULLY TALLY BOIS

>> No.59214953

biboo is no longer poor after joining hololive

>> No.59214958
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schedule

>> No.59214964

>>59213249
And nobody ever shat on LaPlus for her low stream hours!

>> No.59214971

>>59214913
You forgot about ads which slot in between sponsorships and memberships

>> No.59214985

>>59214153
Whose morale is low? You must mean numberfags in this shithole, right? Because it sure as fuck isn't the girls.

>> No.59214988

>>59214921
Marine, Pekora, Chloe

>> No.59215004

>>59214921
Pekora, Marine, and Miko
Thanks Yagoo

>> No.59215006

>>59214685
>random absolute fucking seethe
Oh I can tell

>> No.59215011

>>59211878
>MIDDLE GROUND
>In /#/
Anon?

>> No.59215027

>>59214861
With these inclines, FMWC could hit 90k

>> No.59215041

>>59214964
Nobody cares about stream hours, it's always been about stream frequency

>> No.59215048

>>59214921
Roboco, Matsuri, Ao

>> No.59215054

>>59214897
It's more than Fauna

>> No.59215057

>>59214766
>EN is doomed yet again
well its funny but this is numbers thread and ENs do get lower numbers compared to days ago

>Pre advent doomposting material
- dead hours bad
- homos infiltration bad
- Ame, Kronii making new friends
- too few ENs

>Post advent doomposting material
- numbers bad

>> No.59215061

Ui mama now has more monthly growth than Marine

>> No.59215071

>>59214958
Seems decent

>> No.59215074

>>59214654
No really who?

>> No.59215087

>>59215041
>stream frequency
laplus didn't have that either

>> No.59215092

>>59215074
lol

>> No.59215099

>>59214964
Except that's true. No one ever did care about Laplus streaming low hours. If you weren't a newfag you'd know this because people were too busy shitting on council for months while Laplus was doing 25 hours of streaming a month. People didn't say anything because she was getting a lot of viewers.
Similarly, no one would be saying shit here either if someone in Advent was getting insanely high numbers doing that too. Notice no one poking at Raden for streaming 1 1/2 hrs a day?

>> No.59215102

>>59214985
Despite the attempts of seething 2views numberchad morale has never been higher

>> No.59215107

>>59215006
Why would indie seethe when they mkae good money being indie?

>> No.59215121

>>59212909
Grim

>> No.59215124

>>59214921
Ririka, Miko and Chammers (she deserves to be EN I'm still holding that fucking grudge FUCK YOU OMEGA YOU SACK OF SHIT)

>> No.59215133

>>59214921
What? EN is fine

>> No.59215136

>>59215087
Yeah which is why she get shat on, not low streaming hours

>> No.59215140

>>59214246
>>59214268
>>59214299
>>59214320
>>59214449
Good point on merch/sponsorship/events, but that's sort of my point, none of those three things are also dependent on CCVs. And I mean, fair play, I can appreciate a little 'hell yeah meaningless number goes up / oh no meaningless number went down', it's just wild to me that there are posts right next to y'all agreeing that CCVs are kind of meaningless to Cover talents, right next to people saying x or y talent is doomed because bad CCVs.

>>59214606
>>59214712
>>59214745
>>59214813
>>59214913
To a degree I can understand that, but if a Holotalent has bad CCVs, but has a small but dedicated fanbase, is doing things they enjoy and that fanbase enjoys, and is living comfortably and in no danger of getting dropped by Cover, why is that something to be concerned about? Maybe they're not striving for the #1 spot, but does everyone have to be?

>> No.59215141

>>59214958
Aside from Monday, this is a very good week for her. Also the new cover is eigo and is a "lewd vocaloid" song.

>> No.59215151

>>59215061
That's it, all Fuwamoco needs for 1 million subs is a viral song with a tiktok dance.

>> No.59215159

>>59208907
the mv is animated well, but it doesn't grab you
as for the song, too much falsetto for me

>> No.59215160

Yeah if I was an indie and Hololive approached me? I would totally turn them down. That's how grim things are. I make way more money from the groomers in my discord.

>> No.59215166

>>59215107
I don't know man, you tell me

>> No.59215171

>>59214921
Mel, Aki, Robocco

>> No.59215185

>>59214958
>New song release
Orisong?

>> No.59215187

>>59215099
>Notice no one poking at Raden for streaming 1 1/2 hrs a day?
I think people are more forgiving of low streaming hours if said person streams pretty much every single day. And unless I've missed something she seems pretty new to streaming as well.

>> No.59215188

>>59214128
CCV's the easiest number to horserace, because it's a number that isn't completely uncontestably owned by a single person/group. Gura existing completely killed subcount racing for years, VoD racing is comparing apples with hand grenades, SC racing kinda died when Rushia died and was temporarily resurrected during Luxiem's summer only to die again by winter.

In reality, CCV is itself a horrifically inaccurate metric for reasons ranging from known direct and inconsistent culling (2020 changes, CCVID, delayed waiting room verification, Z's, etc) to frequently being completely decoupled from other metrics (eg: Myth 3rd Anni Collab Relay has double to triple the CCV of their individual celebrations, but has the same VoDs, or in Gura's case gets completely obliterated by her solo), to shit like raids, nevermind the provable botting attempts of varying obviousness. It'd be nice if we had the real stats panel numbers for retention, clickthrough, etc, but all we've got are half the social credit scores that Neal deigns to let us see.

>> No.59215190 [DELETED] 

>>59215054
Fauna isn't really a SC monster so that doesn't say much

>> No.59215196

>>59215057
Advent literally got 29.5k people watching between 3 streams last night. How is that low?
The 30k combined ccv had only been reached like 2 times in the past 9 months and you're here trying to doompost because....?

>> No.59215205

>>59215185
Lol no its a vocaloid cover

>> No.59215217

>>59215061
Feels good to be a Holochad

>> No.59215218

>>59214958
except the first collab, this is her best schedule.
She's improving every week

>> No.59215228

October is coming but no news for HoloFes5, is it finally over?

>> No.59215230

>>59213280
Yeah
https://streamable.com/o2l7n2

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>>59214958
Hmm... okay.

>> No.59215235

>>59215185
Nah English deco cover

>> No.59215242

>>59213212
Yeah, if there's people she can take advice from when it comes to improving after debut month, it's Mumei and Fauna. Those two were car wrecks for the first month or two, especially Mumei.

>> No.59215264

>>59215188
>Gura existing completely killed subcount racing for years,
Anon did you miss the Kobo vs vox subcount race?

>> No.59215266

>>59215205
Damn

>> No.59215294

>>59215187
????
All of advent stream 5-6 times a week. By your logic no one should be saying anything because they're all hardworking and are active while the rest fuck off.
Except that's not what happens and instead we get 18 hours of tards doomposting all day long

>> No.59215297

>>59215242
Fauna wasn't even a wreck though, what is this meme. Her numbers were pretty mid but her content never changed

>> No.59215304

>>59215228
Are you retarded

>> No.59215307

>>59215196
Because it's grim today and not yesterday, retard?

>> No.59215309

>>59214958
>collab
>family gimmick
>karaoke
>collab
>collab
>open VC

>> No.59215311

>>59214958
>The Smiths karaoke
Okay, I have to give her a chance.

>> No.59215312

>>59215235
she said not to leak that part.......

>> No.59215326
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Mori silver

>> No.59215338

>>59214854
I run the assumption that the ability to bring and keep a number of viewers makes one a good streamer.
The problem is what "good" means.

>> No.59215337

>>59215312
It was leaked in this very thread 3 times already

>> No.59215342

>>59215242
How can Mumei be a car wreck when one of her best streams ever was her second stream?

>> No.59215355

>>59214958
I think this family shit is so retarded. Like no one genuinely gives a shit about this other than coomer fanartists do they? We barely know the talent why the fuck would I give a fuck about her family

>> No.59215364

>>59214958
>streams everyday
Why can't her senpais do this

>> No.59215385

>>59215140
>if a Holotalent has bad CCVs, but has a small but dedicated fanbase, is doing things they enjoy and that fanbase enjoys, and is living comfortably and in no danger of getting dropped by Cover, why is that something to be concerned about?
The issue with this line of thinking is assuming that "small but dedicated fanbase" is sustainable over a long period.
It's one of the #1 rules of business: If you aren't growing, even a little bit, you're shrinking. Things don't "stay stable" for long. Things either slightly grow (like how EN is, even if the loss of the debut buff is clouding that at the moment for some people, or how JP is in the aggregate) or slightly shrink (like how a lot of the IDs have been outside of Kaela and Kobo, or how Niji/Vshojo have been) over the long.
There's nothing wrong with being niche. I won't say that everyone HAS to aim for the top.
But if you aren't aiming to grow, you're going to shrink. That's just a truth of the world.

>> No.59215387

>>59215242
Except Spore was fucking amazing
Dumbass revisionist history

>> No.59215396

>>59215337
i guess some jailbirds just aren't strong enough, huh?

>> No.59215408

>>59214766
It's the same thing because, leaving Moom's 3D asides since it's a special event stream, EN normal streams' numbers have been particularly low over the last few days.
Whenever someone brought it up, there were always the "it's just one / two days" excuses. It has been 4 days in a row, now. FWMC and Fauna seem to be the only ones pulling decent numbers (and theirs are still a bit behind their normal numbers before as well)

>> No.59215422

>>59215242
Fauna was unironically good at debut, most people didn’t give her a chance.

>> No.59215437

>>59215057
Advent just needs to play minecraft twice a week
One single POV on weekdays, collab on weekends
Good numbers all week long

>> No.59215443

Bitchjew streams everyday

>> No.59215453

>>59215408
Yeah anon it's not like summer just ended and people went back to school
I swear to god I remember having this exact same discussion last year too

>> No.59215475

>>59215099
Should also be noted that Raden streams just about the lowest-effort content imaginable. Effort and hours don't mean much.

>> No.59215478

>>59215355
I think is fun

>> No.59215485

>>59215453
>summer cope when the majority of Holo viewers are salary men

>> No.59215489

>>59215453
>>34791305
Yep we did

>> No.59215511

>>59215478
me too, the designs are also very sex

>> No.59215522

>>59215437
Minecraft is kind of played out, and, honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft pulls a permissions a la Nintendo on them. It's iffy. They have a really good thing with Terraria going on and could make some pretty good collaborative art. Frankly, most of the Holos just play Minecraft for mapart anyway.

>> No.59215524

>>59215297
>>59215387
>>59215422
That can be advice in and of itself.
Keeping up the pace despite not getting results right away can lead to good results over time, once you find your comfort zone and start getting in the groove.

>> No.59215530

>>59215338
Big numbers
Big memberships
Big superchats
Puny numbers no good

>> No.59215547

>>59215355
She lives with them and likes to tell stories about them and wants to do a duet karaoke for Christmas with her sister, so why not?

>> No.59215552

>>59214921
Ayame, Shion, Aqua
Nothing will change most of the days

>> No.59215560

#s justifying ccv again like it is important when time and time again subs is the metric cover will always prioritize.
Hell koyo and JP girls cry for their sub milestones and you just know Marine is prioritizing her sub growth to beat AI.
If you guys want ccv to be king for cover let the girls stream solely at twitch since ccv is king there.
Advent boosted EN box back to its usual 20 to 25k daily when before advent only a Gura or karaoke stream can boost en box.
Add to that advent boosted around 100 to 150k subs as a whole for myth and council.

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>>59215408
>>59215453
>>59215489
EVERY YEAR UNTIL YOU LIKE IT

>> No.59215586

>>59215196
>EN box numbers Without anniversary & 3D (& Fubuki
19 Sep - 26780
20 Sep - 23930
21 Sep - 24495
23 Sep - 17240

>> No.59215615

>>59215522
>mapart
0 ENs know how to do them, it's so grim

>> No.59215618

>>59215570
What happens first, /#/ understands seasonality or /#/ understands timezones?

>> No.59215645

>>59215140
CCV can be an indication of a member's popularity. For 3D lives those who can break 100k would need to have the pull for so many people to tune in. That pull also transfers to their ability to move merch. But of course you also have to take into account other factors for example the passive fanbase who do watch VOD/clips but can't catch live most of the time for example Myth's global audience.
But like what
>>59214320
said, just don't take it too seriously. CCV is not the be-all and end-all of metrics. To properly analyze a chuuba's popularity you would need a short report that look at multiple metrics at least. Just have fun in the shitposting and some occasional serious discussions.

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>>59215355
Mamarissa sex
anerissa sex
Nerissa not sex
Also, fuwawa is trash

>> No.59215653

>>59215615
Fauna wants to do one eventually but her tree...

>> No.59215656

>>59215560
Subs don't count as strongly as CCV because subs don't make money for a streamer like CCV does. Subs mean jack. CCV means greater chance for members, supas, and donos. Same for Twitch or anywhere.

>> No.59215657

>>59215140
>why is that something to be concerned about?
I don't know why you asked that question. Holos, when they get in, are set for life, at least when looking at Hololive's current position, unless they got Aloe'd.

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>>59215646
>anerissa sex

>> No.59215668

>>59215560
You said a lot of shit and some of it was good and some of it was garbage
CCV matters and we know that Cover knows that, because they brag about high CCV on their investor showcases the same way they do about subscriptions
They just brag about subs more because people understand subs more, and frankly, they're more impressive to look at

>> No.59215689

>>59215618
# understands that your point doesn't matter here

>> No.59215702

>>59215646
fuwawa may not smell like a bunch of roses, but she's soft and sweet

>> No.59215715

>>59215665
>Oi. I'm talking to you. Are you paying attention?
>I'M TRYING NOT TO, RESPECFULLY!

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>>59215646
HHHNGGG!

>> No.59215732

>>59215656
Subs is what Cover advertises to investors.

>> No.59215735

>>59215422
I one thing I remember from Fauna's debut period was her nervously giggling every couple of sentences.

>> No.59215743

>>59215657
>set for life
Are they? Did anyone crunch the numbers how much they earn?

>> No.59215744

>>59215140
>A small but dedicated fanbase
For numbers above 0, 100% retention rate doesn't exist

>> No.59215757

Football finally over, anything Interesting I’ve missed today?

>> No.59215766

>>59215668
The thing about ccv is that they are ephemeral so it's hard to brag about them without setting yourself up for grudgepost. Subs stay more or less constant unless something big happens

>> No.59215770

>>59215570
I love how people got out of school this year and EN got even lower numbers. The numbers only got better when advent debuted but it looks like it's back to grim.

>> No.59215777

>>59215702
Fuwawa is a bitch.

>> No.59215786

>>59215735
She still giggles a lot

>> No.59215794

>>59215646
>Fuwawa is trash
How about Rissa?

>> No.59215797

>>59215689
# understands my fist to your face

>> No.59215808

>>59215586
….?????????
How is this bad? Reaching 20k ccv without Gura was literally a fucking tall order for holoEN before advent. Again, let me give you a very “grim” reminder that this thread religiously followed Fauna and would do haywire over her simply hitting 9k ccv
And guess what? That was her SOLO STREAMING for hours on end. You think holoEN was in a healthy spot before? Because last I remember it would take atronomical effort to even get 3 people streaming at the exact same time

>> No.59215809

>>59209934
>Just say I'm not hololive

Afaik this guy is kinda clueless about hololive, sisters call him a normie and shit so he probably doesn't really know wtf he supposed to be and management was sending mixed signals from the start almost certainly discouraging both groups from making the distinction too clear because their whole marketing plan for homos seem to rely on confusing the obnoxious casual fan.

>> No.59215813

>>59215757
Mumei died

>> No.59215817

>>59215732
The dumb ones, maybe.

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>>59215453
But numbers were nowhere nearly this bad last year. We're seeing HoloEN runts rolling around 2k on gaming streams. Even the supposedly mid-tier were getting only 4-5k.
I.e: picrel was EN list on 23rd Sep 2022. Try comparing that to any of the last 4 days

>> No.59215832

Is it me or have the Meidos been a lot more trigger happy lately? They've been taking taking bait threads more frequently recently and they've been banning people for just being generally annoyed at them. t.gotbannedjustforsayingFUmeidos

>> No.59215834

>>59215656
The point of Subs is that you'll likely get more views/CCV for your video/streams. So if it's all dead subs, kek, to the trash bin that number goes.

>> No.59215837

>>59215732
I thought investors are prime numberfags? If investors buy the sub cope, then the market is truly grim.

>> No.59215838

CCV is nothing more than nijinig's tool to advance their holo vs holo and to gain some victory over Hololive with their Belo Jogo bots.

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seggs

>> No.59215849

>>59215408
Numbers weren't even that bad yesterday even if you ignore Mumei. Bijou 9k, Fuwamoco 16k singing fucking JP oldies. Day before that Fuwamoco got 8k playing Zelda, Fauna got her usual number range on Hitman recently as well. Are people here just numberroted from the Advent post-debut period?

>> No.59215861

>>59214921
Pekora, Marine and Miko. Any other answer is wrong

>> No.59215869

>>59215657
I agree, I'm wondering why some of the people in here don't, like the following

>>59215385
In the world in general, sure. But Mel has been streaming for 5 years, has yet to crack 1 million subscribers, I'm sure looks terrible by CCVs, and yet, is still holding steady, gets to go to huge events, and seems to be having fun. Is that so bad?

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>>59215832
You tell me anon

>> No.59215891

>>59215817
Right, because surely you couldn't be the dumb one. Everyone else is stupid but you.

>> No.59215894

To which God do I pray so the output of these girls can be equalized?
Rather than 50 bitchboo stream, 5 from each EN is preferable

>> No.59215902

>>59215834
The issue is VTubers often have a higher proportion of dead subs compared to other channels. Their content if often driven by clippers and third-party advertisement, so they often get knocked off of recommends. It makes subs more unreliable as a metric than they would be in general.

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59215911

>>59215813
Nooo…..

>> No.59215916

>>59215880
>Being racist outside of /b/
deserved

>> No.59215940

>>59215646
wrong.
>nerissa sex
>anerissa sex
>oneerissa sex
>mamarissa sex
>fwmc double sex

>> No.59215942

>>59215819
So the grimanons were right all along, that Advent just cannibalize the current fanbase?

>> No.59215946

>>59215560
CCV is only good for shitposting, any other explanation is pure cope. Don’t take the thread seriously, less than a handful of posters know statistics and the ones that do enjoy shitposting as well.

>> No.59215952

>>59215902
Yeah anon and that's different from every other creator on youtube how?

>> No.59215967

>>59215891
I dismissed you because you made something similar to a, "My dad works at Nintendo," argument. If you sit on the board or invested in Hololive, prove it to me.

>> No.59215973

>>59215849
I did say
>FWMC and Fauna seem to be the only ones pulling decent numbers (and theirs are still a bit behind their normal numbers before as well)
though

>> No.59215975

>>59215916
Which would have a point if he was banned for racism and not trolling

>> No.59215977

>>59215819
BECAUSE HOLOEN STREAMED SOLO FOR HOURS ON END BEFORE ANYONE WOULD EVEN TURN A STREAM ON YOU DUMBFUCK
WHY DO YOU THINK HOLOEN ALWAYS GOT “GOOD” NUMBERS
BECAUSE NO ONE FUCKING STREAMED SO ALL PEOPLE COULD DO WAS PUT ONE STREAM ON UNTIL 4 HOURS LATER

>> No.59215978

>>59215832
They always been shit, I got banned for saying Moona gotten fatter since joining holo even tho she literally said so on stream.

>> No.59215984

>>59215656
Twitchers care more about watch hours than CCV.

>> No.59216013

>>59215975
>trolling outside of /b/
deserved

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