Numbers thread

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>thread died in the middle of primetime edition

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late to that shibuyahal thing but i also found interesting that Crazy Raccoon and other apex youtube streamers always unlist their VODs, most of their youtube content are highlights and similar videos
jap livestream ad revenue is probably not that significant, though it doesnt mean the same applies for holoEN

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chronoir

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>>5817853
Damn, Nijisanji's biggest gay couple actually has a couple channel? And what's with the gay thumbnail and isn't 24k viewers kinda low? Is doing fujo pndering stream even worth it? Or maybe number actually doesn't matter, they're doing it to tell the fujos the ship isn't dead so they'll be more likely to continue to support Chronoir by buying their voices and merch?

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>>5817853
>Pekora lost to Bahroo
>Mio only 78k
Hololive is literally dying.

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>>5817853
Are you some fucking retard, OP? Couldn't you have waited a few more hours before yesterdays streams cleaned up from the charts? Again?

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>>5817853
Where's Mito or the other Niji females? Why weren't they streaming? Did they have a concert or something?

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>>5817853
Kuzuha and his boyfriend really cleaning out some spots. What would niji be without them.

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so did bahroo killed moonlord or not?

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>>5817853
Half of these streams are from yesterday. Well done, you moron.

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>>5818524
>two guys playing mario golf game normally
>fujo pandering
ogey

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>>5817885
What makes en vod views different?

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>>5818615
no. There must always be a numbers thread.

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>>5818524
it's pride month after all, lmao

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>>5818564
Kuzuha
>Had internet celebrities and the owner of 4chan as a guest.
>Could barely hit 60k.

Niji desperation for views has hit a new low. Mansanji is real.

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>>5818760
we make a numbers thread when those charts clean up, shithead

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>>5818784
anon, that's not the max

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>>5818798
No we make a numbers thread to contain all the numbershitters that would otherwise flood the board

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>>5817853
Thread is already becoming shit. Thanks OP for being impatient.

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>>5818760
Yeah No. A new numberfag thread will be made when the numbers come out. This thread must be ignored and be left to die.

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600 people waiting for Gura's TTRPG stream 9 hours in advance. I'd love it if Mori's campaign beat Critical Role numbers for the group sessions

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>>5818802
Again. Even with all those guests Mio still mogged him. Pathetic honestly.

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>>5818828
The thread is always shit, that's the whole point

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>>5818828
Then just wait for the proper one and let the schizos duke it out for the moment, it is sometimes fun to watch them go at it

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>>5818877
Kuzuha isn't pandering to EOPs and third worlders

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Lets make a new numbers thread in a few hours from hours, this one is garbage

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>>5818828
>becoming

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>>5818888
Not when the graph guy is here

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>OP doesn't really care about the numbers thread
I could never have guessed

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>>5818933
get him to post his graphs then

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>>5818908
>He can't pander to EOP and third worlders

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>>5818918
They're all garbage

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>>5817853
>
>
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>>5818972
>haha say hi honey
>here is my SPANISH stream! watch me!

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>>5817853
Might as well change this to Numbers/Tribalists Thread

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>>5818984
So the numbers thread?

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>>5818952
The proper number thread isn't out yet so he can't do his job

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>>5818983
can't even do that, pathetic

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>>5818972
i just had a vision of kuzuha duolingo stream and almost threw up

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>>5818952
>get him to post his graphs then
>>5819005
>The proper number thread isn't out yet so he can't do his job
If you guys are referring to *this* graphs (pic related) it's working hours now, maybe letter and on request if someone wants their oshi performance charted or something else
If it is someone else yeah, that was what I was thinking too

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>>5819227
dying brand, watch it spike down after graduation month ends

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>>5819316
holoen gen 2 in august

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>>5818972
>duolingo
>Hola!
>Hi Honey!
Kill yourself

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>>5819316
>massive incline since March 16
>approaching (if not surpassing) the August 2020 peak
>dying brand
JEJ, you can't make this shit up

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>>5819377
holoEN has also fallen off a cliff

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>>5819316
>>5819463
Sorry this is the numbers thread, not the wishful thinking thread, show some numbers or shut the fuck up.

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>>5819463
i wonder if they ll bring new audience or canibalize gen 1
a basic talentless bitch like watson will not survive

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>>5819539
Sorry this is the numbers thread not the seething at holoEn thread, your thread is two blocks down

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The day of the shark is here

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Fujobait edition.

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>>5820303
Wrong Fujobait. Kek

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>>5820336
Coco's stream with Yagoo isn't counted?

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>>5820377
They don't count premieres.

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>>5818908
>>5818983
>>5819042
>>5819417
These sure sound like cope. But it's okay, I don't want my oshi to pander to the eops either. But the bad thing about this is their numbers are going to be lower than Hololive and they'll lose motivation, that'll lead to graduation. I just hope my favorite male vtubers don't compare themselves with the Holo girls.

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For some reason >1K people are waiting for Gura's TTRPG stream 8 hours in advance. Predictions? Also, predictions for the first group session if move it to a non crap time slot, say weekend evening primetime for NA?

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>>5820336
I've seen enough so I'm calling it. Bahroo is the #1 male vtuber in the world. Kuzufag will now fade into irrelevence. Good riddence.

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>>5820480
Their numbers back then for big collabs that wasn't spread out was a min of 50k. Since there is hype built around this session, it won't be surprising to see 60k-70k

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>>5820571
That would be very surprsing considering the big collab never went past 30k, I'd wager it'd fall somewhere around 45k at best.

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>>5820336
The numbers has been consistent to see only a max of 4 Nijis, Bahroo, Patra when doing ASMRs, Hal and the rest are Hololive. None has changed.

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>>5820396
What's the difference in premier?

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>>5820622
The last time they had a big collab with enough hype was the april fools one that had 56k during JP Primetime

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>>5820715
Premiere isn't live. It's just the first showing of a traditional youtube upload.

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>>5820774
I'm talking about the first session of the TTRPG stream, that one was a collab between all five members and it didn't go past 30k

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>>5819890
Let's stop fighting for a second and acknowledge that a new era of Kings is upon us. Hololive is undoubtedly the leading brand in the vtuber world. There is No competition. Nearly non-existent to make a difference. As numberfags we are blessed to be served mogging this delicious. The reddit shark will be the king of vtubing. And together with the lesser top tier holomem, they will achieve greatness.

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>>5820792
It hit 36k and it wasn't primetime. It happened in the afternoon if I can recall.

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>>5819513
yeah, these are numbers that show decline, and?

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>>5820879
That collab was at 2pm PST on Tuesday for a game no one had ever heard of. The TTRPG streams since then have built some hype but they need to use a better time slot to get big numbers. Which I assume Mori knows. Wonder if she's willing to move it.

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>>5820935
You seem to be mistaken, this is the numbers thread, not the post random numbers thread. I understand it's easy for your small reptilian brain to be confused but you need to link your numbers to the point you're making and not just shit them out.

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>>5821009
random? Sodapopping is literally shitting on the shark, who has fallen off in regular viewers.
>no! don't post numbers I dislike!

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>>5820952
She's willing to work with Gura right now to have her session on her regular streaming hour. Like I said, minimum for this would be 50k given the hype that was built around it. I am willing to low ball it to 40k. It all depends now if Gura has a good character in this next session

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>>5821031
ooh look at me I can cherry pick too

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>>5821092
I literally can't find anyone else streaming WoD. D&D seems somewhat popular but Paradox should be promoting Mori to fucking space for her campaign.

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>>5821031
that's typical holobronies for you

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>>5817853
>12K
Pekora is reclining...

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>>5819890
>親分と呼ばれる
LMAO. Imagine her acting like she's a big deal, going around farming respect from other non-Holo vtubers when Gura is sitting above her doing her own things and collabing with other Holos.

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>>5821108
>special one time event
>first time on the jp server
>first time interacting with jps on a big scale
>can't even get 50k peak
reddit shark is over

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>>5821108
Oh, have some more numbers: he's also the first to 3 mil.

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>>5821108
>outdated numbers
cope

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>>5821163
why lie?

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>>5821127
They were in the waiting room in the first stream. They were set as moderators. They were answering questions left and right. I think they are just waiting for the first real session to really jump off in promoting them.

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>>5821187
Twitch is his main platform, anon. So actually, it's more like 4+ mil total subs.

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>>5821163
Fixed it for you

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>>5819417
you will never be japanese

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>>5821246
3.03 mil on Twitch alone, that's where he streams. Youtube is a clip channel.

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>>5821207
Doesn't stop nyancucks from claiming she belongs in the 1 million club so no, that doesn't fly.

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>>5821270
>no don't post those numbers, they don't count
cope

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>>5821300
He streams on Twitch, not Youtube.

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>>5821165
>2 days
>outdated
seethe

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>>5821246
He's already bored of it.

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>>5821310
and this is relevant how?

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>>5821333
>>5820935

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>>5821495
fixed it for you

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>>5820480
>>5820571
Weekday.
Not prime time US time.
At least 20k.
25k peak probably.
I'll be happy to be proven wrong.

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>>5817853
Why is everyone playing the henry stickman collection after gura did it? Why did she play it, start this trend?

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>>5821163
Cool vtuber you got there, bro.

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>>5818983
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffrun9g4Xlo&ab_channel=%E9%88%B4%E9%B9%BF%E8%A9%A9%E5%AD%90UtakoSuzuka

next thing you'll say is "i-it was only that time"

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>>5821681
Cuz they're numberfags.

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>>5821681
She played it because she saw it on permission list, thought it looked fun and wanted something easy to stream, since she didn't have a schedule that week anyway.

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>>5821701
> discussion around Kuzuha
Hey, what about this vtuber?

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>>5821681
because its easy numbers

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>>5820544
the number one is soda anon, he really mocks every male chuuba

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>>5821790
You mean pewdiepie right?

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>>5821765
>already coping
why are nijibronies like this?

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>>5821163
False, this guy is the first to 3 mil.
why don't you move the goalpost again?

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>>5821811
he keeps streaming with his avatar?

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>>5821858
>>5821790
>>5821163
I hate you niggers so much

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>>5821790
>chuuba
Look here >>5821687
Just because he used a l2d rig a couple of times, that doesn't make him a vtuber. Time to come up with another bait.

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>>5821681
for the same reason it always happens.
>oh we have permission for this game? might as well!

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>>5821161
>first time on the jp server
aaand another anon who dosen't watch streams. what a surprise

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>>5821886
damn thats a pretty good 3D tech he has there

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Posting soda is like posting a massive sign saying
>LOOK AT ME, I'M A TROLL AND THIS IS BAIT!!!!!
How do people still bite every time?

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>>5822147
its the new AO posting and they have a better argument that he's a vtuber than what they did with AO

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The only acceptable Soda

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>>5822467
>3k avg live viewers
Sorry, no indies allowed ITT

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>>5822467
is it normal that i get yandere vibes from this

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>>5822869
Some say Sora being a creepy stalker is just a meme but I am not so sure.....

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>>5822758
>3k
>indie

>>5822869
>is it normal that i get yandere vibes from this
Yes

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Oh great, VNUMA got updated to "2.0" and now it's actually worse. Sure, the huge amount of channels made the site slow af at times, but now the viewership number is rounded down

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>>5820336
Daaamn gotta love the Miko incline. She used to get sub 10k for her singing streams so 17k on the one she just did is huge. ELITE!

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>>5822970
What the fuck is the point of a numbers site when you’re rounding.

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take a look at Vnuma's brand new shitty design. They removed the option to see the details for the streams now, so no graphics through time, even the max live viewers is rounded for some dumb reason

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>>5823106
holy shit this is bad. is there any alternative website for non-holos?

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>>5822970
>>5823106
isn't there another site who also gives us live viewers through time graphics?

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>>5822970
Maybe. like holostats, it is possible to get their raw data from the XHR json. I may take a look at it later

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>>5823151
holotools, but that's only for holos

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>>5823187
wellp, not like we really care about the rest of them anyways

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>>5823160
Yup, data is still there, it can be fetched and shown correctly

>{
> "live_list":[
> {
> "uuid":"83c2165a5bb5422ca0f48a23fd5d8ca3",
> "streamer_id":"1f29507dace74705ba7ca3c3bcb92395",
> "maxv":78092,
> "name":"大神ミオ",
> "name_en":"Ookami Mio",
> "title":"【新衣装】かわいい?セクシー?新衣装お披露目だー!!!【 大神ミオ / ホロライブ 】",
> "is_live":0,
> "thumbnail_url":"https://yt3.ggpht.com/ytc/AKedOLRP0h31urAKtYcu_j1foVuGyPU65_Y-VNBqLgHB5Q=s800-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj",
> "video_thumbnail_url":"https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2UktG3wqu4s/mqdefault_live.jpg",
> "groups":"cover",
> "video_id":"2UktG3wqu4s",
> "ch_type":1,
> "rank":1,
> "channel_misc":null,
> "groups_name_en":"Hololive",
> "groups_name":"ホロライブ",
> "follow":0,
> "notification":0
> },
> {
> "uuid":"57543b00ad724b9b9f803f0030093017",
> "streamer_id":"10b192ef2c8440deaf28bb670073d79c",
> "maxv":33173,
> "name":"宝鐘マリン",
> "name_en":"Houshou Marin",
> "title":"【The Henry Stickmin Collecton】パロディネタだらけのおもしろ棒人間ゲーム【ホロライブ/宝鐘マリン】",
> "is_live":0,
> "thumbnail_url":"https://yt3.ggpht.com/ytc/AKedOLQFVN7wLaJFbdPU56qOkNlbkrMneYpTmGpneRig=s800-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj",
> "video_thumbnail_url":"https://i.ytimg.com/vi/P0mo_HzHhwA/mqdefault_live.jpg",
> "groups":"cover",
> "video_id":"P0mo_HzHhwA",
> "ch_type":1,
> "rank":2,
> "channel_misc":null,
> "groups_name_en":"Hololive",
> "groups_name":"ホロライブ",
> "follow":0,
> "notification":0
> },
>...

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>>5823151
The hourly summary page is probably the best option for now
Also what the fuck is up with bahroo's numbers? He seems to jump all over the place.

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>>5823251
then why the fuck is it not showing it?

https://twitter.com/vtnumerics/status/1409920318664183809
https://twitter.com/vtnumerics/status/1409923307957145602

>disabled replies
This guy knows the new website is garbage but is not going to do anything about it

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>>5820952
>>5821092
There's no way she's moving the regular timeslot.
Even this move isn't because of Gura but because of health related things with Mori.
> Like I said, minimum for this would be 50k given the hype that was built around it. I am willing to low ball it to 40k
You massively overestimate the audience a TTRPG draws, especially with the viewerbug.
>>5821127
From my experience most WoD streams either stream under D&D or Tabletop Games on twitch.
There are a few but obviously not a big audience.

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>>5823256
Variety streamers are like that

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>>5820480
>Also, predictions for the first group session if move it to a non crap time slot, say weekend evening primetime for NA?
They won't because this is an effort to have fun as group, not to farm numbers and it's either this or Japanese midnight for timeslots they can all make

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>>5823256
bahroo is always getting twitch raids

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>>5823304
Probably because he knows his methodlogy is dogshit and rounding it down is more accurate since those numbers aren't guranteed to be accurate anyways.

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>>5823304
wanna bet that he's gonna try charging for the full stats?

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>>5823399
For the "live now" numbers? Yeah, that is fine. But for the ranking he could have kept up the full number

[Anonymous No.]

Hey here's an idea, why don't we make a numbers aggregator site for ourselves with more accurate tracking and the ability to display average ccv alongside peak viewers?

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>>5823320
Their 1st session was 36k peak in the afternoon on a weekday. Nobody cares that it's ttrpg back then. Even now that people are whining about Watoto the normies that don't give a shit about the ttrpg loves the idea because of the memery of it all. It's going hit minimum 40k with the same parameters. Higher because of the hype and even greater if done on a good timeslot

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>>5823478
You'll get a shit ton of indie and start-up registration requests.
Bias feature requests, etc.
Shit like this is very taxing to do pro bono,
especially if you only enjoy a portion of the vtubing communities
instead of all of them.

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>>5823478
Yeah, someone fork HoloStats code for tracking and add in other VTuber agencies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5823478
>we

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>>5822970
at least for english its K+, jp interface round down is just sad

[Anonymous No.]

>>5821270
>Twitch
Next time you will tell me Billibilli should count...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5823187
Holotools shit the bed during festival...

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>>5824511
if not for holonigger drama it absolutely would be

[Anonymous No.]

Here's the latest top 100 VTuber/VSinger original songs ranking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjdA4H3LnjY

Gura absolutely dominates with her new song. In the top ten, the breakdown is 6 from hololive, 3 from Kamitsubaki, and 1 from VALIS (ranking with their new song). Nijisanji's highest position this time is rank 28.

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>>5824652
lol no

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>>5825178
Yeah I can see why it's not as popular as the hololive ranking channel, he's going to need to learn how to do snappy editing if he wants to get more veiws.

[Anonymous No.]

where can i buy bots for kizuna

[Anonymous No.]

>>5825178
do people really listen to idoltrash more than once?

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>>5825373
https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1409923786883883008?s=19

[Anonymous No.]

the lion sleeps alone

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder if this CalliGura collab will boost the shark right to the edge of 3M, to reach it during Coco’s graduation stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>5825291
You know very well she wouldn't want you to do that. You're better off spending 5k yen for a ticket to her birthday party live that's happening tonight.

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>>5823256
Bahroo has been grinding hardcore terraria for a week and two days ago/yesterday he did a marathon where he had 5 minutes to kill moonlord with the timer resetting every time someone subbed, which gave him a huge boost. Today he has been streaming for 15h straight to reset his sleep schedule. The more he fails while inching closer the bigger his number gets. Happened the same when he played They Are Billions on 500% difficulty and whatever dumb Xcom War of the Chosen challenge bullshit he pulled a few months ago. His normal average fluctuates between 8k to 12k

[Anonymous No.]

If pace keeps stable there will be three more millionaires in July. I doubt Kanata will maintain the current steep incline so it will likely spill over to August

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>>5825775
forgot to mention the 5minutes timer reset stream went on for 25h straight (and then he called quits for the day when he died to moonlord)

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>>5825663
There is zero chance of that happening, gaining 40k subs in a single day isn't a thing that happens anymore

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>>5825842
News of her surpassing AI will likely boost her. She’s picking over 13k/day, easily

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>>5825865
A slight boost to 10k a day, maybe, but not 40k in a single day.

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>>5825888
She’s around 35k to the next million anon. She needs 17k/day to make it

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>>5825178
Are the Nijiniggers going to even try to defend themselves here? Sad sad performance from Niji here.

[Anonymous No.]

Just as a change of pace The SV tournament is already the SV Official channel's 3rd most viewed video at 1 day old. The #1 video is 888K at 3 years and #2 is 367K at 2 years old. Even crappy gachas apparently print money and one whale can be worth tens of thousands of revenue, so I wonder if their marketing people are happy with their sponsorship.

[Anonymous No.]

did that bahroo guy ever stream with a webcam?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5826674
sometimes, but before he got hiss model he was mainly a facecamless streamer

[Anonymous No.]

>>5818749
Overall market size and the willingness of western companies to spend on ads.

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>>5826718
so whats the criteria?
might as well add apex pngtubers like kinako or CR guys to vnuma then
or is it live2d? then why someone like kamito isnt there

however after today's vnuma "2.0" update i dont really need an answer, creator of that site is simply a retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>5825663
Best i can give is 20k

[Anonymous No.]

>>5821031
>Sodapopping
Who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5827009
He's not really rigged though, it is still just a randomly moving png. He is supposed to be the furry thing in the girl's arms.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5821142
imagine thinking people will actually respect the shark more because numbers lmfao

[Anonymous No.]

>>5821858
Not a VTuber, retard. Get the fuck out of /vt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>5817853
Where do Mio's outfit reveal numbers stand in comparison with other outfit reveals?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5825178
>song rankings
meanwhile Tomoe is making a truckload of money:

[Anonymous No.]

lulu will get more superchats than coco

[Anonymous No.]

>>5825178
Jap niji fans are seething at this. It's beyond pathetic. They love to suck Enikara cock whenever niji gets the bigger number. Hahaha >ENTER< HOLOLIVE mogging.

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>>5827652
Nijisanji fans are weird. Imagine waiting 3years to finally sperge money on your "favourite" nijiliver. 3 fucking YEARS. Poor tomoe was probably living in poverty waiting 3years for her 3D debut to finally win a temporary lottery. Pitiful nijiliver. Meanwhile the hologirls make money daily. Get sponsorships, become brand ambassadors and get to sing the ED of your favorite anime. Oh also occupy the majority of the Superchats rankings. Based hololive consistency. Nijisanji can't relate.

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>>5827009
I think he only started being tracked recently. So probably VNUMA's criteria is that you have to stream as a VTuber consistently (exclusively?) and not as a gimmick. Otherwise, you'd have Pewdiepie and Pokimane being included in this as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5828006
Imagine a Holostar making this much money.

[Anonymous No.]

Thought VNUMA was using whoever was on https://virtual-youtuber.userlocal.jp/..

[Anonymous No.]

>>5828229
this just proves the real lucrative market isn't the fujos it's the yumejos/goslings

[Anonymous No.]

>>5828229
The best Minato
>Aquachangs
She made like 1/10th of this

[Anonymous No.]

>>5828006
I’m not familiar with Nijisanji but I’ve heard here and I’m not sure if it is a ruse: Nijis don’t get a steady paycheck from the corp like Holos do?
That’s for real or a ruse to take the image of their agency?

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>>5825178
Mori's stats:
Youtube: 72,913,566 plays (including MV + topics)
Spotify: 36,150,081 plays
>>5828398
It's true. Although Hololive pretty much only gives minimum wage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5828398
It's true. The catch to it is that the livers aren't obligated to stream at all and the company puts almost no restrictions on what they're allowed to stream unlike Cover. Being in Niji is like being an indie who can get deals with sponsorships and merch. It's a meritocracy.

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>>5828537
>BTS: 110 million views in a day
small fish in a very big pond.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5828398
It's real. Niji doesn't need to pay fixed salaries because they make bank off of merch. Most people who join niji do it because they want to have fun. Niji mostly hires inexperienced busy college students. The problems:
>Fewer streams because they have IRL responsibilities
>Zero motivation since the pay isn't guaranteed
>Uses Nijisanji to further their unrealistic dreams
>Graduates

That's Nijisanji in a nutshell. You are welcome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5828323
>She made like 1/10th of this
Aqua is the 5th most superchatted person in the world. Fuwacchi is 29th. It's not even fucking close.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5828617
Thank you Yagoo for only hiring experienced Hags. Hag Love. <3

[Anonymous No.]

>>5828537
>It's true
>>5828547
>It's true
>>5828617
>It's real
T-They do it ... for free? I genuinely refuse to believe, whoever doesn’t break out and get SC and merch deals are effectively paying to work for them?

There must be a catch, what’s it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5828617
>Niji mostly hires inexperienced busy college students
Conversely, hololive hires mostly old hags with past streaming experience. They're less likely to quit because it's a last resort thing for them. Can't make their simpbucks normally anymore due to their deteriorating looks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5822398
Not really, at least with AO they've never streamed with their real face, while sodapoppin has done so for years. His sub numbers are useless cause most of those are from when he wasn't a vtuber. If we allow subs from when people are a nonvtuber to count just because they've played around with a vtube avatar a few times, then Pewdiepie is the ultimate vtuber god with 110 millions subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5828617
Oh So that's why hololive is much more popular. Makes sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5828786
You say that like it’s a bad thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>5828786
Holy shit I love Hags now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5828779
how is this thread so full of newfags holy shit
or do you really open the numbers thread every other day and ask this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5828936
I’m not a newfag, I’m here since summer! Anyway, what’s the catch, why do they do it for free?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5828796
>at least with AO they've never streamed with their real face
Every single character shows their real face, it's real camera footage spliced onto real food, it's a webseries. Soda actually has a VTuber avatar and it meets the definition, frequency of use for defining a VTuber is subjective.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5828779
The catch is that they MIGHT make it big and make a shit ton of money, get lucrative sponsorships and maybe a record deal.
Unfortunately because of how Nijisanji operates, it's very hard to stand out and the fanbase mostly just stick to their favorite vtuber. Nijisanji also tends to give the best sponsorships to their already very established talents as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829018
Isn't it like 99% of streamers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5828786
HAG LOVE, they also make great wives

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829018
it's not their main source of income, to them it's a side gig so it's okay if they don't blow up. and if they get fed up with it they can just leave.
i honestly don't see a problem with that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829143
>Nijisanji also tends to give the best sponsorships to their already very established talents as well.
The more people the worse it sounds. Why would anyone even consider applying for it instead of biting the bullet and going indie?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829205
>if you fail just say you never really tried it

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829018
they knew what they were signing up for when they applied and entered nijisanji, that they wouldn't get a base salary
if they wanted to, they could go apply literally anywhere else like a real job but they didn't
next you're gonna bring up shiba who you learned about yesterday too huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829205
>I t's not their main source of income, to them it's a side gig
How can it be “a source of income” if they’re doing it for free?
I already regret asking, it made me sad and the attempts to justify it or make it sound less bad are aggravating me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829272
Because it's pretty much the same thing as being indie, retard. They aren't obligated to stream and the company puts almost zero restrictions on them unlike Cover. There are several people there who go months without streaming. Roa is missing for almost a year already but still releasing voice packs.

[Anonymous No.]

HOLOCOPE AND HOLOSEETHE

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>>5829374
Thanks for your amazing contribution to the thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829298
>next you're gonna bring up shiba who you learned about yesterday too huh?
People didn’t fill me in on it so all I know is that somehow a niji streamer got medical bills and their agency let them hang.
I watch vtubers for the content and hang in this thread for the numbers (a passion of mine), these details sometimes amuse me but this whole “do it for free” aren’t really amusing, it’s more like
>concentrated despair

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829021
Annoying Orange is more of a VTuber with their spliced images than Soda will ever partially streaming with a L2D model as a gimmick. Mind you, neither are included on the sub rankings and VNUMA doesn't even track their lives because they're not VTubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829143
>Nijisanji also tends to give the best sponsorships to their already very established talents as well.
Yeah, it's not like that the companies for the "best" sponsorships ask specifically for their very established talents...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829433
>eufag

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829359
>Because it's pretty much the same thing as being indie
I’m still waiting to be told what the catch is. So far it surely sounds like providing a service to a company for no monetary compensation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829272
I don't know, if I could join a company and be a nominal indie but with the benefit of having legal liability protections, I'd join without thinking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829527
Where did you get the "no compensation part?"

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829527
- getting a sponsorship deal
- getting a merch deal
- having your numbers boosted by the brand, Pomu used to get only 50 viewers or so on her past life as indie for example

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829552
>with the benefit of having legal liability protections
You can establish the equivalent of a burger LLC for very little money in most of the civilized world and enjoy the same benefits without having to affiliate with a company.
Niji at least doesn’t take a cut from whatever the streamers revenue is, I assume. Right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829337
I am certain they do get paid commissions on the revenue that they generate (SC, membership, ads, etc)... or at least they should. But only the top talent can afford to live exclusively off of this revenue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829636
Holo at least doesn’t take a cut from whatever the streamers revenue is, I assume. Right?

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>>5829448
It's what is essentially an internet cartoon with someone's face imposed onto food, it's not even a person, it's a scripted live-action webseries, so it's not any more of a VTuber than Charlie the Unicorn is. There's a reason it's been used for far more aggressive trolling and spam than the likes of Pokimane, PewDiePie and so on. Soda has the exact same animated model as any other VTuber in the likes of Hololive or Nijisanji.
Is Sodapoppin a "proper VTuber"? No, but you could theoretically make a thread exclusively discussing his streams using his VTuber persona/avatar rather than his facecam streams (in the same way "roommate" posting isn't seen in threads) and you wouldn't know the difference. Threads like that just get derailed because inevitably, people are more attracted towards discussing their more well-known actual person and facecam streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829627
>- having your numbers boosted by the brand
Surely smells like bands playing a gig in some venue for free “for the exposure”. It may work but for each Nirvana making it big there will be 100 literally who’s that merely did it for free.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829636
Nijisanji takes 50% from what I recall.
The real money for the talents are in the merch and sponsorships.
Hololive is speculated to be 30-50%

[Anonymous No.]

>>5821859
There is rule that set they have to stream for a certain period with their avatar to be consider a vtuber?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829692
I assume Holo pays a steady salary to their streamers, from Anya to Gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829739
>Nijisanji takes 50% from what I recall.
>Hololive is speculated to be 30-50%
Wait wait wait wait .... Hololive pays a monthly salary AND takes a smaller cut?
>sips vegemite
This is looking worse and worse

[Anonymous No.]

Phonefag fuck off with your cringe reaction images

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829728
people like kanae dedicate their income to streaming (buying a studio) people like gilzaren stream once every 8 months. both get birthday merchandise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829728
They will always have better numbers there than they do as indies, no exceptions. It's incredibly difficult to be successful as an indie nowadays given how saturated the market is. For every successful establish indie there are thousands of failures with only 0-10 viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829337
is superchat and money from voice packs not income? it's not a fixed salary but it's still money that they receive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829290
who are you quoting, retard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5830127
>buying a studio
Wait wait wait wait ... they have to buy their own equipment if they want to get big?
They can’t just be a middle tier like Kanata and Botan but just drop by HQ and do some 3D skits on the companies dime and grow to almost a million?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829298
The pathetic nijidog who hasn't streamed in over half a year. During her time in niji, she was basically living in poverty until she realized that any other job would've been enough to fully sustain her. At least compared to Nijisanji. But that didn't stop the nijidog from begging Sakura Miko for a collab. GHOSTED by the Elite. Poor nijidog thought that Miko would throw her a bone. Pathetic really. 6 months of no stream. Just an undedicated money deprived dumb nijidog. This is the current state of Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829761
No, ESLchama. There is no such rule. It's basically consensus.

>>5829725
That's exactly my point. But my perspective is different from yours.

Sodapoppin, PewDiePie, Pokimane and Annoying Orange aren't considered VTubers because, by their very nature, don't stream primarily using virtual avatars to represent them. Mind you, AO could switch to L2D (or even just a 3D model) and be instantly recognized as a VTuber once enough time passes since there is no real restriction on what VTubers have to look like other than be represented by a virtual avatar on screen. The other three don't have that luxury (so far) since their content is primarily facecam and for the longest time will be perceived as facecam entertainers (regular YouTubers and Twitch streamers).

[Anonymous No.]

>>5830183
>is superchat and money from voice packs not income
It is but I’m failing to see what affiliating with the company is providing here
>do a stream
>get SC
>company takes 50%
>you get nothing in return

[Anonymous No.]

>>5830340
studio apartment you retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>5830377
Gibara also left because of money reasons. I'm starting to see a pattern here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5830557
ogey

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>>5830340
How did you twist “some use their income for equipment” into “they can’t go to the studio for 3d”

[Anonymous No.]

>>5830635
Do your roommate reps nigga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5830485
>they give you a free live2d model and iphone for tracking
>you get the company name attached to your channel
>you release merchandise and voice packs that you can also get money from
not to mention staff and management arranging and organizing things for you as needed.
the ones who find something better to do graduate. the ones who feel like their situation is fine stay. it's honestly that simple, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5830675
お仕事の依頼はDMまでお願いします!
仕事したくないのでDMは開放してません

[Anonymous No.]

>>5830482
The difference between the other three and AO is that, besides what channel they stream on and to what frequency, they are individuals who use fully animated, computer-generated models to stream. They aren't a scripted live-action webseries with multiple characters created instead by basic editing software with real camera footage. I know you've already said none of them are really VTubers (which is correct), but some of them are clearly much closer than others. While you could take a character from AO (or any work of fiction) and slap on avatar for them like they're doing with Sonic the Hedgehog and have it be a VTuber, they haven't actually done that yet.
All of them show their real face, but the other three actually have used a VTuber model at some point (or multiple times in Sodapoppin's case). So I'm wondering if you're defining a VTuber by their online presence in general, or each individual video; if it's the former, then none of them come close due to their real online presence being too vast; if it's the latter, then you could make something resembling an argument for Sodapoppin, less so for the other two since they literally only used it in a one-off video as far as I can remember.

[Anonymous No.]

If the money in hololive is so good then why did Coco quit, holobronies? The salary is likely not higher than minimum wage and Coco doesn't seem like she's rich since she's still renting a house together with Kanata despite being the #1 superchatted channel on youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5830248
>second hand embarrassment

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>>5830851
>holobronies
stopped reading here

[Anonymous No.]

>>5818784
Bahroo is not a member of nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5830904
Truth hurts, eh? Coco is STILL going to be living with Kanata even after she leaves, indicating that she didn't get enough money during her time in hololive to buy a house for herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5830851
being an indie still generates the most cash if you're already well known and know what you're doing enterprenual-wise

[Anonymous No.]

>>5830904
seethe holobrony

[Anonymous No.]

>>5825805
I don't hate Ayame but I hate her numbers so bad.

[Anonymous No.]

Hi again, anons. I was the one translating Shibuya Hal's note and did some number crunching after that.
I did some comparing of his Ad Revenue and SCs with some Holo members, and of pure boredom I tried to collect some numbers to compare them a little bit more accurately.
Feel free to skip this if you aren't interested.

First of all I apologize for wrong math. I wrote on >>5811904 that Hal's Ad Revenue is estimated to be ~53,017,281 Yen, this was wrong math on my part. He got ~75,738,973 Yen from Ad Revenue, making his total income from Ads and SCs alone becoming ~89,287,587 Yen, which is ~80.4% of his total income described in the pie chart.

Now, I tried counting the total SCs and views Rushia got from 2020/06/28 ~ 2021/06/28.
(Data taken from https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCl_gCybOJRIgOXw6Qb4qJzQ))
Total views (mostly VOD views since they dont have many Video Upload only views) = ~60.588M
Total SCs = 180,914,961 Yen

Now, as with before, assuming Cover takes 50% of what remaining after the 30% YT cut, Rushia got ~63,320,236 Yen in that 1 year period from SCs. For the Ad Revenue, as stated on >>5806822 the total views on Video Upload only views has more weight than VOD views, and this is because of reason already stated by other anons such as Ad only playing at the start of livestream, even lesser people actually came back to watch the VOD of a livestream, and according Hal himself, it gives less money than Video Upload only views (I have no means to confirm this, sorry.).
Hal got ~42.729M of Video Upload only views, and ~118.204M total of VOD views. He stated Video Upload only views have more weight, but he also said VOD views aren't negligible. On my personal opinion, I will try to assume that the Video Upload only views contribute to 67% of his Ad Revenue, while VOD views give 33%.
With the assumption above, ~118.204M VOD views contribute to 33% of ~75M Yen he got. So how about Rushia? She got ~60.588M of VOD views.
>I've put the disclaimer on the old post that this might differ per Vtubers themselves so this will definitely not be the accurate number.
So working it out, from all this assumption-ridden math Rushia made ~12,746,869 Yen from Ad Revenue. The total income she got from Ad Revenue and SCs is ~76,067,105 Yen. For comparison, Hal got ~89,287,587 Yen.

For the closing remark, all the math above hinge on 3 different variables :
1. How much does Cover take after the 30% YT cut
2. The weight ratio of Video Upload only views vs VOD views
3. The CPM and CPV of their channels

Thanks for reading all of this for everyone who did it. After the revelation yesterday from Hal's note that Ad Revenue is actually a pretty potent drug I got interested in seeing whether streamers who rely on SCs for their main income is actually gaining more money than people like Hal who's dishing a new video everyday. I'm actually amused by the fact that even if it was an assumption-ridden math, there's possibility that the 2nd most superchatted channel in Youtube with 1.24M subscribers is actually getting less money from all her Youtube activities than an Apex autist who make vids everyday in the span of 1 year.
Hope all of you have a good day.

[Anonymous No.]

so what kind of content are nijiniggas graduations? is it just a goodbye stream or will there be a concert?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5831499
>Gains almost 100k subs in a month where she didn't stream even once and ghosted twitter for weeks
The power of docchi docchi, Yo dayo, Yo dazo, and Goodbye Sengen.

[Anonymous No.]

if vods were that significant cover most definitely would put more effort into unprivating vods lost in holocaust

[Anonymous No.]

>>5832472
thanks for keeping the numbers thread on track and correcting the numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829948
Hololive's CEO makes much less than their talents.
Management, tech, and other positions are only paid around 45k / year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5830485
>I’m failing to see what affiliating with the company is providing here
You get 100k subs before debut if you're in Hololive, and around 50k subs if you're in Niji. You can be a total anti-numberfag and debuff yourself constantly like Anya and still get 300k+ subs after 6 months. These are numbers that 99% of indies will never see in their lifetimes. Just the exposure alone if enough to give up 50% of your SC because what's left is still more than what you would've gotten as an indie. Going from an audience of 20 to 200 is already huge. Now imagine going to 2000 after joining a company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5830851
Maybe she just wants to live with a friend, I highly doubt she needs to split rent with Kanata, if anything Kanata needs her money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5832960
>>5831055
You guys make it sound like Kanata is poor when she's 7th all-time in Superchat and also sells merch/gets sponsorships. Coco literally said that if she's being honest, money isn't a problem in her life for the near future. Neither are struggling for money lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>5832472
It's easier to estimate what Hal got from SC and membership when you compare it with his ad revenue.
But the estimated membership number for Hololive is missing from your equation.
Someone like Gura has at least 30k memberships.
Rushia has at least 10k memberships.

[Anonymous No.]

niji niji dead and rotten
all the views are at rock bottom
relevancy lost, you go on a search
all while mumbling "but the merch"

[Anonymous No.]

>>5818737
The thumbnail. Look at it again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5833282
Thanks for the reply, anon.
For the record, I didn't count any membership fee towards the ~13,548,614 Yen SCs, it's purely the number of SCs. The reason I didn't include any membership stuff even though Hal already stated that his SCs income (the 12.2%) has membership included in it is because I have no source to try getting the data from. There's that one graph where someone tallied the number of members on Holo girls stream by checking whether they talked in chat or not, and even though I could use it forcefully (those data are by no means accurate) I still have no data on the number of Hal's members. Also to add onto it, I have absolutely no idea whether YT takes a cut from the membership fee, and whether Cover also takes further cut from it. Hope you could understand my decision, anon. Do tell though if you know how the membership fee works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5817853
What happened to mito, judging from cllips she always seemed way more hardworking then kuzuha, is it because shes not a man?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5833855
he streams more and leeches from non v

[Anonymous No.]

>>5833855
she is doing fine. she's getting a sony outfit, is releasing an album, and a bunch of personalized merch. she also streams way less than kuzuha

[Anonymous No.]

>>5833196
damn, how do I get rich and have a rich wife

[Anonymous No.]

>>5832472
it's hard to tell how much the holos earn from ads since they have a global reach and CPM varies and high earners like Rushia can renegotiate their youtube cut.
>total views on Video Upload only views has more weight than VOD views
>Ad only playing at the start of live stream
This is true but the holos get more views at end of the live stream. iiirc Rushia usually gets at 150k-200k views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5833196
She didn't say that. She just told her fans not to worry about it. She likely has a job outside of hololive. Many other holos do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5833196
Kanata eats grass to sustain herself, and she cannot go live with her parents because her mother is a whore. Kiryu Coco supachas are the only thing that keeps her heart beating

[Anonymous No.]

>>5833674
YouTube takes 30% off of all payment that go through their payments processor with exception to those list items that have exceptions made on them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5834188
Yeah, I'm well aware of that case you presented at the end, since for example Gura always has 'above-average' live viewers in Holo standard, but after the livestream ended the VOD views just shoot up like a manic. I thought of dividing them into views gained during live and views gained after it ended (so a 'true' VOD views, so to speak), but this new vnuma sucks...
I can't even load the page anymore, let alone try looking whether those data are still there or not.

>>5834354
Thanks for the information, anon. So I assume YT still eats 30% of the membership fee then? Unless I misunderstood what you meant by 'list items that have exceptions made on them'. Now to wonder whether Cover also take further cut from it or not I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5832472
Thanks for the writeup. What I take away from it is that the amount of ad revenue is dependent on how many ads are actually played rather than view numbers. We need to know real stats about ads generated per livestream view compared to upload views

[Anonymous No.]

>>5834666
Cover probably takes a share of the total revenue generated by the channel unless it is content funded by the Holo, of which they choose to take no cut from.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5833311
This is gold. Saving.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5834844
>We need to know real stats about ads generated per livestream view compared to upload views
The only safe assumption that you can make is that each VOD for a live stream is worth at least one AD. Since YouTube works hard to make sure that VOD's that view ads are counted, then the VOD counter is at worst, fairly reliable. After that, you need to check livestream VODs after maybe a week or so to determine if said videos have multiple ad segments generated at the start, end and throughout the VOD to determine how much monetization YouTube extracts out of each one.

Every other type of video on YouTube has at least two ad segments based on video length and content type.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5833855
She is a female in Manjisanji. What do you think happened to her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829728
I mean yes, the brand's main value to the talents is exposure.
The small salary Hololive pays isn't worth the cut they take. The exposure is though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5832719
Even the Shibuya Hal writeup points out that VoDs don't matter much for ads. It's specifically uploaded videos that keep getting views even after months/years

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829728
At the moment getting into Hololive is basically guaranteed success, they’re pretty picky about who gets in though. I wouldn’t doubt if the starter 100k subs turned into 200k for gen 2. Yagoo actually talked about 3 things they look for in a talent today in his interview with Coco.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5830851
she already said why she´s quitting, stop being delusional nijibronie

[Anonymous No.]

>>5830851
Because contrary to what this thread thinks numbers aren't everything and sometimes creative freedom does matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5836404
Dont stoop to their level, holobronie and nijibronie are dogshit insults

[Anonymous No.]

>>5833855
Don't get Mito into your numberfag game, she doesn't even want to release membership.
Otherwise she's fine, she doesn't stream alot and looking from her twitter apparently she's busy offstream working on music and merchs stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5836678
Im not a numberfag, its just weird to me that a woman who clearly tries with her content was doing worse than some dude who plays apex for 75% of his content

[Anonymous No.]

>>5834216
I was talking about her roommate's account. She literally said "Honestly, money isn't a problem for me right now".

[Anonymous No.]

>EOP
Australia: CPM @ USD6.15
New Zealand: CPM @ USD5.63
United States: CPM @ USD5.33
Canada: CPM @ USD4.64
United Kingdom: CPM @ USD4.59

>Asia
Pakistan: CPM @ USD7.54
United Arab Emirates: CPM @ USD4.72
Japan: CPM @ USD4.60
South Korea: CPM @ USD3.21
Saudi Arabia: CPM @ USD3.09

>SEA
Myanmar: CPM @ USD2.90
Brunei: CPM @ USD2.59
Cambodia: CPM @ USD2.40
Singapore: CPM @ USD2.08
Thailand: CPM @ USD1.94
Vietnam: CPM @ USD1.57
Philippines: CPM @ USD1.49
Indonesia: CPM @ USD1.33
Malaysia: CPM @ USD1.31
https://blog.silvermouse.com.my/2019/09/countries-ranked-by-youtube-cpm-for-content-creators.html

HoloJP is 60% jp, 40% SEA due to time zone. The real winner here is HoloEN. damn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5825926
Kizuna Ai's birthday is today, Gura needs 35k in one day, not two.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5829728
The difference is that they do get tips in the form of superchats. It's not hololive money but they do get enough to be a major supplement to their income. It's more of an open bar where any band can take the stage if they want

[Anonymous No.]

WHY IS VNUMA DOWN WHERE IS MY NUMBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERS

[Anonymous No.]

>>5841612
VNUMA got a major backend update and will have partial service for a while.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5836505
plus we already have nijinigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>5837610
whats the % on adblock in JP vs EN?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5833196
Even a low performer like Towa talks about how she is living very comfortably now because of hololive as apposed to her rough upbringing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5837023
Apex is the generic boost game in jp especially for kzh since he's good at it and it's just zatsudan with him at this point.
Dunno how manjisanji memes came, there are more girls with music gigs than males, girls with fewer viewer numbers are more well promoted than males, there are poorly performing males too who suffer through bad management like naruse naru. Not sure why holofags would want niji to be hololive 2.0 with sex segregation and content restriction either since it would easily mean both groups end up worse off, they have their own niches and are doing well in theirs respectively.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5843963
there are probably 3 IPs in the number thread who actually watch nijisanji. a lot of the discussion is between people who can't even look in the archives for information let alone watch them

[Anonymous No.]

>>5843963
>Not sure why holofags would want niji to be hololive 2.0 with sex segregation and content restriction either since it would easily mean both groups end up worse off, they have their own niches and are doing well in theirs respectively.
Let's be honest, if there are self-proclaimed holofags giving bold and ignorant advice on how Anycolor should be running Niji, it's safe to assume they either don't know what they're talking about or they're actively rooting for Niji's demise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5843164
probably a small amount like less than 20% (EN) to 12% (JP) based on these.
>https://www.emarketer.com/content/youtube-viewing-shifting-ctv-screens
>https://www.thinkwithgoogle.com/marketing-strategies/search/global-youtube-mobile-watch-time-statistics/

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>>5844478
>actively rooting for Niji's demise
unironically yes

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numba 1

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>>5817853
Im tired of being a number fag, everytime i open up yt i only look at the current view numbers and decide if i should watch them or not. Then when the numbers go down or i see someone in the recommendations having a bigger one i switch over immediately. Im so tired of this. That's why im going to submit myself to just watching subpar low count indies so i can learn to appreciate the low numbers and effort.

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>>5843963
The spergs here get angry when ANY female chuba collabs with a male whether inside or outside hololive.

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I'm really surprised that Gura playing a TTRPG with Mori for 3 and a half hours had consistently better viewership than Gura/Ame/Ina playing Mario. I really can't predict Gura's numbers at all sometimes.

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>>5855003
The mario collab took place a good few hours before Gura's regular streaming time, also this ttrpg session has been hyped up for quite abit unlike Mario party which no one in the west really cares about.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMKRJ6wILTE
original songs ranking

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>>5856605
Reflect is still doing over 200K views per day for the past 4 days and from the extrapolation of the last 7 hours and daily trends, it should hit well over 200K today as well.

https://playboard.co/en/video/WGgEFoI9MhE

6/26 248K
6/27 202K
6/28 209K
6/29 231K
6/30 (est) over 200K

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>>5856700
Reflect is still doing over 200K views per day for the past 4 days and from the extrapolation of the last 7 hours and daily trends, it should hit well over 200K today as well.

https://playboard.co/en/video/WGgEFoI9MhE

6/26 248K
6/27 202K
6/28 209K
6/29 231K
6/30 (est) over 200K

*Whoops, didn't mean to link the wrong thread.

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>>5856861
Gura is a monster, her song gains more views a day than some holos songs gain all week.

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>>5844478
Hololive isn't sex segregated either besides by the talents own individual wishes. Those who want to collab with men do so all the time and I'm not aware of any pushback from management on this.

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killing the thread

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>>5853570
You've better off accepting that Holos gets high views, superchat, membership and ad revenues for their VODs everyday. While Niji gets highest views and superchats in a 3D debut stream. Accept this and you'll be happy for at least a year.