What's going wrong? Why is everyone leaving?

[Anonymous No.]

>5 weeks in and their numbers are already struggling to keep up with Ina's, the most bland, lazy and boring EN of them all
I thought they were going to dominate EN for they're 'JP-tier' and 'what we've always wanted'

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
BAU BAU

[Anonymous No.]

i just want them to talk normally

first active holo ive unsubbed from

[Anonymous No.]

post proof

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
People get tired of gimmicks and retarded noises. It was funny for a while, now it's old.

[Anonymous No.]

FuwaMoco play debuff games but they get good numbers on FWMC mornings (>10k CCV)

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996617
He’s lying. These are their last two streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
The EN fanbase wants more of the same it seems, they should have joined JP if this is true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996493
Imagine what it's like for their genmates behind the scenes. One minute they sound like normal women, then when you go live they're suddenly talking to you like children and you can't even understand them and they won't play along with your jokes. Then when the stream is over they're back to talking normally. Must be so frustrating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996760
>more of the same
Change for changes sake has never worked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996792
anon...

[Anonymous No.]

Discord raid, apparently

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996738
So Ina gets more or less than this?
>>57996850
Would have fitted more in JP then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
moco sexo

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996738
>first minecraft stream buff
>easily digestible short stream gimmick buff
now show their normal non-gimmick stream numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996924

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
>With Ina

grim

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996924
>Would have fitted more in JP then.
Absolutely. Wasting two slots in long overdue EN3
for that retarded gimmick was truly a classic Cover big brain moment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996939
>Minecraft
Other Advent played it too

[Anonymous No.]

>shiori 'yab'?
check
>nerissa 'yab'?
check
>bijou 'yab'?
check
>fuwamoco 'yab'?
you are now here

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997088
They are famous for listening to their audiences... by trying to please everybody.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997114
>using 'yab' unironically in 2023

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
This but NijiEN, seriously, they're getting beat by fucking tempus LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
Back to your containment thread numberfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
https://youtu.be/x1fYqtwBBrA

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997092
>FWMC mogging Nerissa and Shiori
As it should be

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997185
>pissed off schizo? check

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
>>57996939
sister what now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997373
Pubic hair peeking out from behind the bikini is one of my favorite things in the world

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
Im ashamed to admit the JP only stream and the subsequent shitposting made me not want to watch them

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997286
>hurr durr schizo
Just take the L. You'll get over it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
>sacrifice en fans for jp fans
>jp fans get bored and go watch jp holos
>en fans don't come back
i've seen this anime before

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997373
Moco's ears should be smaller than Fuwa's

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996792
So true sis! Yaaaaas!

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
Ranking here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997455
>schizo still seething?
check

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997468
>sacrifice en fans for jp fans
When did this happen?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997373
they should shave before wearing something like that. literally nobody wants to see a crotch forest

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997185
what else are you supposed to use

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997527
Here we see the homosexual in his natural habitat. Posting on an iranian tapestry forum

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997580
>if you dont like stinking unkept pubes, youre le gay
theyre unsanitary. should be cut into a nice kept stubble or shaved to reveal all the goodness. simple as

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996493
BAU BAU

[Anonymous No.]

It must be just a coincidence that dogfuckers are the most schizo fanbase in /vt/ and they also got the most japs and last samurai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997018
where is the global one

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997665
Those pubes look pretty kept to me bro..

[Anonymous No.]

So this is all shitposters have now? All other attempts at creating yabs failed, so all they can do is point out their viewership has settled after all the tourists went away?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997931
they're running out of material
>>57997114

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997931
I can already picture sisters fuming about being rejected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997931
Classic bau bau cope. You need more un un to support your teletubbies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997931
This particular anti developed very early on from the number thread, when the girl he picked wasn’t doing as well as he liked. He has since taken it out on Fuwamoco. The end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997526
NTA, but they used to give preferential treatment to Japanese SC. Like a 500 yen SC would get get a multi-minute response while other SC would get a single sentence or thanks. I think they started skipping low SC in general now. Then there's the Japanese tweets, Japanese only stream, Japanese learning stream, and they'll likely lean into Japanese collabs now that the ban is up even though they haven't done many English collabs outside of Advent. I wouldn't say they're intentionally sacrificing fans, but it's true that this is one of the reasons Kiara and Bae have less viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57998146
I have seen all the hostility in the catalog too, crazy stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997527
>they should shave before wearing something like that. literally nobody wants to see a crotch forest
Ggggggaaaaaaayyyyyyy

[Anonymous No.]

>>57998270
>500 yen SC
Thats a lie. They never responded to 500yen SC. Is always 1000 yen gets you a bau bau, and 2000 yen and above gets you a response.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57998438
Worse is when they come raiding the baubau thread the other day, thinking fwmc will respond to the homobegging SC. And then they dodged it and all the shitposters went silent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57998270
>Japanese only stream
Can you count how many japanese only stream they did?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
if you have 500k subs, shouldn't you have at least 50,000 people watching every stream?

[Anonymous No.]

Dogfuckers think pubic hair is sexy. Another new low but makes sense since they propably fuck their mothers dog.

[Anonymous No.]

I stop watching them because it's pretty obvious they like more talking with JP people, i dont feel interest in their interactions with their EN audience. Thats all, no hate for for the poor doggos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57998682
If a chuuba shows no interest in homos from the beginning like Bae they should just leave her alone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57998753
Mysta graduation didn't even get 70k and he has a gajillion subs

[Anonymous No.]

>>57998847
Anon, you're supposed to like pubic hair by default. It's supposed to arouse your primitive ape brain. Your failure to be aroused by something that you're supposed to naturally be aroused by shows that you're the one with the defect here, not us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57998270
nice headcannnon faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>57999591
Don't care. Bald pussy only.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
BAU BAU Niger

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996792
You mean the same thing that happens with just about every entertainment personality for the past century? Or do you think radio & TV hosts, actors, sports personalities, even other streamers act the same in front of a camera as they do off it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57998847
>>57999820
Lol gay

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
They haven't streamed a buff game for almost two weeks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57999912
I said bald pussy, not bald cock.
Faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57999978
Lol gay

[Anonymous No.]

>>57998632
This is a lie. They respond to yellow superchats all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
they literally peaked 15k CCV yesterday which is huge for EN holos that aren't Gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997373
grrr

[Anonymous No.]

>>58000306
That was after they sent bijou a corrupted minecraft exe to crash her computer

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997092
Pomu...

[Anonymous No.]

>>57999978
might as well go play with dolls, those are hairless, barbie is smooth. Go play with dolls faggot, leave the real women to real men

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997092
I swear last year NijiEN had around 3k CCV average. What happened?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58000270
No they dont. Yellow only gets you a bau bau.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997373
Mococo brutally MOGGED

[Anonymous No.]

I smell that one retard numberfag anon that can't help but point out that not playing fotm is going to "kill their channel" here. Get fucked dude, organic and soul will always win. Who cares if they don't "make their goal of 1mil this year"? I don't see any explosive growth anymore in the market. God I hope there's another pandemic and they meet that goal without your bullshit and you die from it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58000436
skill issue

[Anonymous No.]

>>58001020
holo vs holo is amusing, literally screaming into the void.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997580
Body hair is a masculine trait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
BAU BAU

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997092
what is that random irrelevant company in the bottom? some jp shit? why are they on the same image as HoloEN?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58001251
Don't care, still want to suffocate in Botan's bush.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58001251
So are muscles, which is why women are just skeletons held together with pneumatic pistons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997092
Uh, what's our response sisters?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58001675
>>58001642
Pubes are on the same level as leg and armpit hair.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58001020
was about to post this too
it's clearly that faggot lmao
>>57996792
wew, all you have to do is watch streams instead of creating fanfictions

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997684
>most japs and last samurai
kek learning Japanese is a soft requirement over there

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
In vtubing you can either gachifarm or cater to the masses
One way gets you lots of viewers
The other way gets you consistent money and loyal long term fans

Advent have made their choice. And I think it is the right one

[Anonymous No.]

>>58001718
Not really. Leg hair doesn't smell good.
armpit hair smells even better

[Anonymous No.]

>>57998270
>Like a 500 yen SC would get get a multi-minute response
Now I know you don't watch streams. They never reply to yellow, green, blue messages. Orange, pink, red get their messages read on stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58001967
>They never reply to yellow
They have replied to like two but that's it

[Anonymous No.]

>>58000947
I can't believe I'm actually going out of my way for something I don't care about, but here you go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq_tWg5c-iM&t=8260s

[Anonymous No.]

>>58001828
Baused.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58001828
>Shiori
GFE
>Biboo
Gamer with mass appeal
>FuwaMoco
Ojisans and mass appeal with EN/JP.
What is Nerissa? I have no idea who she's appealing to. She's more interested in Kiara than building up what type of fan base she wants.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997373
>what now?
sex with Fuwawa

[Anonymous No.]

>>58002848
>miss "respect my collab choices"
>GFE

[Anonymous No.]

>>58001967
See >>58002137
Looks like neither of you watch streams. You both fit right in with the rest of the mouthbreathers in this thread. kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>58002848
>FuwaMoco
>Ojisans
Where did this meme come from?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58003295
You’re going to anger the OP

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
Nijifag deflection thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58003390
>Where did this meme come from?
I mainly watch Biboo, so I'm not 100% sure where it came from.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58003390
>meme
Ojisans spent years in this hobby, unsatisfied with EN until Fuwamoco came

[Anonymous No.]

>>58002137
From what I've noticed, orange superchats are always read, yellow ones are rarely read,
and any superchat below yellow is completely ignored, akasupa is only ignored if it's completely retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>expecting NOOOOMBERS from obscure PS2 era games on a fuzzy capture device

I hope you enjoy the Mineslop that you'll get soon enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997931
They're trying to work all of Advent right now, they started with Shiori but after awhile they realized /vt/ was getting bored of the "RESPECT MY COLLAB CHOICES" spam so they moved on to Nerissa and then spent weeks focusing on every slight she did, then the past couple days they shifted to Biboo about how she is evil incarnate for streaming too much, now they're back to FWMC because they're the last ones left to try to convince /vt/ to anti.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997018
>FWMC just below Gura at her #1 position
Watch out for your bauck, Gura!

[Anonymous No.]

>>58003390
>old games
>old anime
>boomer song karaoke
>Fuwawa: Vanilla is boring
They've made it pretty clear

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
Obviously, Japanese viewers left. I won't say they should have more jp only streams but their normal streams are needlessly a bit too English centric compared to Coco. They should speak Japanese on their streams if they want to keep growing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58004015
As a hololive ojisan, I came to a horrifying realization a couple nights ago after enjoying FWMC for a month.
They're part of EN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58005318
The numbers for all of Advent will decline from those since they included the debut buff. Gura is #1 for Holo EN; there is no challenge to that.
>>58005442
They are the highest in Advent, with the most growth as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58005442
What is the proof that japanese viewers left? Fuwamoco morning which is the one thing they do in Japan hours has maintained stable numbers over the month. And all of their Karaoke streams have been well attended.

Next week they'll start being able to collab with the JP branch which will only bring more JP viewers in.

I personally think they should do at least one JP collab stream per week as JP is the only area where vtubing is actually growing. They should also move to japan if they haven't already so they can get more involved with the company as a whole. In a year's time there's no reason they can't be Hololive's EN ambassador and be raking in sponsorships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997092
>>57997270
It's two members, so you have to divide their numbers in half when comparing it to other streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58006183
In case you haven’t figured it out yet, the thread was started and controlled by antis on discord. A few numberfags who hate Fuwamoco, so they say she has the worst numbers while avoiding any mention of the one who they like. It’s basically tribalism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58006393
They're an LLC so you have to work out their tax bonuses compared to solo contractors first

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
Most of their viewerbase had to go back to school this week

[Anonymous No.]

>>58000945
Male vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Sisters sure hate Fuwamoco for some reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
They're not playing the shitty streamer bait games that Zoomers love to watch and I love them more for it. Hopefully they're filtering out all those little faggots for good.

[Anonymous No.]

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand FUWAMOCO. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of Attic poetry most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Mococo's pessimistic outlook, which is deftly woven into her characterisation- her personal philosophy draws heavily from Hegesias of Cyrene, for instance. The wuffians understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike FUWAMOCO truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in their existential catchphrase "BAU BAU" which itself is a cryptic reference to pseudo-Herodian's linguistic work De Prosida Catholica and has its roots in the plays of Aristophanes. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as FUWAMOCO's genius wit unfolds itself on their monitors. What fools.. how I pity them.

And yes, by the way, I DO have a FUWAMOCO tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the doggy pack's eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid

[Anonymous No.]

>>58008741
Delightfull

[Anonymous No.]

>>57999878
No shit people turn off entertainer mode but this amount of change from norm isn't what EN is used to

[Anonymous No.]

>>57998682
Late but which Supa was this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58007035
>numberfags
So jealous, streamless chumbuds then

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
>get filtered by hardcore kayfabe
Shocking? Not at all.
>Leaving loyal paypigs who loved the style
Honestly, the dogs knew the market. They don't CARE for general audience (especially greyfags).
And no, I'm not watching them either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58016047
No, it’s Advent vs Advent tribalism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
Holo EN isn't what it used to be, we can stop pretending it is some kind of juggernaut like JP now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997114
BAU BAU

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997088
Name two chuubas who would have been better than Fuwamoco

[Anonymous No.]

Noooo stop appealing to wealthy middle aged men, only appeal to greyname zoomers desperate to backseat you on mineslop

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
hey retard, did you forget about the "honeymoon" phase? this thread is as disingenuous as using debut numbers to prove so and so is super popular while ignoring their current stream numbers that are a fraction of it

[Anonymous No.]

you do realize they have to pull up the branch along with advent by themselves after holoEN fucking tanked in 2022? No shit they have a long way to go to make holoEN recover to pre-2022 numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
Is this before or after dividing the numbers in half?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996493
>I just hate kayfabe
shut the fuck up you insufferable idiot. Go back to watching normal streamers if you don't like kayfabe. Literally why are all westerners like this? Does it really hurt you so much to indulge fantasy for 5 minutes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58021905
Based RetardGOD

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
>15k for their MC stream
It all comes down to buff/debuff games. FuwaMoco love to play debuff games and fucking HATE buff games(horror, FOTMshit, etc)
When they do buff streams, they get higher numbers than everyone else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58000945
They're unironically imploding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58023264
Their debuff game streams are their best content. Cookie & Cream was fucking kino.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58025195
I agree. The masses have no taste

[Anonymous No.]

>>58000945
The male viewers left.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996493
>he thinks the other girls use their normal voice

[Anonymous No.]

>>58025195
baused

[Anonymous No.]

>>58006393
>1 channel
No you don't faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
They pandered too much to ENfags and lost me, but they can win me back potentially now that the collab ban is over. I doubt they'll take advantage of it and their refusal to actually adapt to the idea of both playing something like Minecraft even is really limiting their potential for no reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
I had a look over the past stream numbers for the myth girls and Ina has the highest solo stream numbers out of the 4 of them that actually stream. So if they're higher than Ina then they're doing pretty good. Though there is still some debut buff in effect right now. It will take a while for Fuwamoco to build up a loyal viewerbase. Their commentary has quite a lot of room for improvement and they will eventually reach their lowest point once the debut buff wears off entirely and it will only be uphill from there. Also, their karaokes are going to get consistently high numbers and will always be a good way to bring in new viewers to their channel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58000945
Educate yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>58026454
HoloEN is pandering to EN Christ almighty...

[Anonymous No.]

>>58000945
Enna

[Anonymous No.]

>>58000436
fuwawa, i kneel..

[Anonymous No.]

>>58026519
ENfags are people who love the Naruto dub, English-speaking Hololive fans love the Yotsuba manga. They are English-speaking Hololive fans but due to backlash purposely limit their power-level to be just as generic as the other trash.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997665
don’t worry, my dick is very well kept in that stubble

[Anonymous No.]

>>58026454
>their refusal to actually adapt to the idea of both playing something like Minecraft
Great way to out yourself as someone who didn't watch streams and has no idea what they're talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
BAU BAU!

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997373
hnnnnnnng
I feel like a dog right now when I look at this drawing

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997468
Something like that, it's rare that chuuba can sit on two chairs at the same time and not suffer from it. I know only of Pika who did it successfully, idk about Chama and Kson, Kson english is barely intelligible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58001020
>Who cares if they don't "make their goal of 1mil this year"?
You dogfuckers cared a lot just a couple weeks ago when you thought they would. Now it's all organic and soul.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58005442
>English centric compared to Coco
Almost as if they are holoEN...

[Anonymous No.]

>>58003390
Ruffians think anyone 30+ is ojisan because it's rare to live longer with their condition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997114
you can come back from that kind of yab, fauna did, but it takes work

[Anonymous No.]

>>58026731
You can't even read posts, so I can't believe you watch streams. I said they lost me already, so I'm not absorbed by them. I'm just genuinely hoping they could do something to bring me back. I tuned in to that terrible Minecraft stream, I admit my expectations were low but that was even worse, I can see how that wasn't their fault specifically but they weren't both playing the game. And when users donated for a second PC fund in that same stream, they shot down the idea. They take the "one-channel"/"one-individual" thing too seriously. It's not forced on them since they were given separate Minecraft accounts/skins by Cover.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do brown monkeys seethe so much at EN speaking JP?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58029249
>I said they lost me already, so I'm not absorbed by them.
Then why do you care?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
I don't watch JP much anymore, but they should've just joined there instead of EN since it's a sinking ship now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
Why are you acting like a drop off after the novelty of a new gen wears off is a new thing? It literally happens with every single new gen of Hololive AND Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
Just because you have the attention span of a retarded 2 year old and are so used to your parents screaming at you that can't focus on anything unless it's also blowing your ears out doesn't make Ina "bland" or "lazy"

[Anonymous No.]

>>58002848
>What is Nerissa? I have no idea who she's appealing to. She's more interested in Kiara than building up what type of fan base she wants.
Fan who snuck into the hololive backstage to meet her oshi and will eventually die happy because of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
>using a vtuber you don't watch to insult another vtuber you don't watch
dumbfuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58030029
She actually has strong potential because she is really good at studio singing. Her 1st cover is still going strong and she should specialize in that niche for now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996734
Is that something to be impressed with when they don't break 100k views? If you are struggling to break 100k VOD with a 7 hour stream, then you might not be getting the audience support. Or they want to go the Kiara route of spamming streams and they only really show up for the special events.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58004811
It's embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
Don't think OP is right in the long and large of it, but i will say i personally get kinda bored of their forced voices and mannerisms. After about 30 minutes i go watch something else, but i don't hate the doggos at all. Just have my limits

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997455
>using 'take the L' unironically
Go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>58003295
Collab ban is up
At this point, respect my collab choices means 'respect that I am too autistic to ever ask my senpais for collabs'

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
1 twin asmr stream will bring all the fans back

[Anonymous No.]

Told you guys so many times at /#/, they don't live up to their name as the 3rd gen, the should-be golden gen.
Told you from their first week to give them 3 months time and they will be on Council level of ccv.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58031414
Same, it's cute noises brain rot. Which is fine, but it just gets boring after a while. They are either too ESL or playing the kayfabe too much to be entertaining for more than an hour.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58026473
imo the debut buff is over. I sort of wonder if they'll hit a ceiling that isn't there for other EN vtubers though. FWMC are a high-concept act with an aggressively distinct style that turns off normies. I think it's possible that most of the people that would ever really like them are the ones who've already heard about them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58001754
But shiori told us to create fanfictions, what are you on about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58032107
They haven't even gotten started. Once they truely break into JP they will go straight to the top. Its fine if they don't, they are amazing the way they and seisi desu~.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58021905
How are you supposed to indulge in this "fantasy" if can't understand any thing they say, anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58004811
normal M.O since /vt/ was created, these people don't even watch clips let alone streams.

OP needs to stop choking on miles of dick and start popping some meds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58031837
i need fuwawa to speak sweet nothings into my ear jesus fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>58029775
This isn't a thread interested in the opinions of faggots like you who will just defend any position you're told to no matter how contrarian it is. It's about people who can be lost and won back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996792
nnnnnnnnnnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
>shitting on fuwamoco

nice try mythkek

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997373
another round of tears

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
Their fans are annoying and they shit up Nerissa's thread all the time. So I stopped watching them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58021905
Kayfabe can and often does suck, anon. Wrestlers with shitty gimmicks exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58023264
They’ve barely done anything yet. Stop acting like you have them figured out. They’re going to fall into the same pattern as every other Holo of playing the same shit. They only have so many perms.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58032107
>FWMC are a high-concept act with an aggressively distinct style
They’re two whores making baby noises and acting like they’re auditioning for Nick Jr. nothing they’re doing is high concept

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
>getting stable 10~15k viewers every stream
>decide to cuck western fans with a japanese only stream
>down to 5k viewers
Gee, I wonder what happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58038325
I bet you wouldn't say that to Ruffians face.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996493
if you don't want keyfabe then go to twitch, all the vtubers on there are just e-whores who use vtuber avatars when they don't feel like doing their makeup, it sounds like that's more for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996939
>short stream buff
just say you're a newfag and leave dude, anyone who's watched vtubers for more then a week knows that endurance streams are a buff and short streams are a nerf

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997092
Unironically it's because Bijou couldn't stream it. Pebbles like FuwaMoco more compared to Shiori or Nerrisa, go in /gem/ during advent collabs and you'll see a lot of Diamond Dogs posting.
When Bijou couldn't stream the majority of her chat stayed on her wait screen to type in her chat but went to go watch the stream on FuwaMoco's channel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58040228
>my whore isn’t a whore because she uses a baby voice and never talks to me like an adult male
Fascinating take.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58038409
Why do people keep saying cuck in regards to that stream specficially? Wasn't it planned for them to have a JP-only stream? It's not like they said it would be EN and JP and they ignored the EN fanbase...

[Anonymous No.]

>>58006393
>>58026375
They have Fuwawa fans, Mococo fans, and fans of both all watching one channel, so you have to divide by 3.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
Mococo should have a higher role other than making cute retard noises everytime fuwawa talks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58044037
It should've just been Mococo. Fuwawa is a wasted slot imo. I'd prefer another Advent member that offers something different from the others instead of two of the same retards with one of them being noticeably less charming and entertaining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58044037
She's the one that plays the actual games.
She's the brawns Fuwawa is the brains

[Anonymous No.]

>>58043742
They made several claims leading up to that stream that there would still be English in the stream or that they might pick some English questions. Aside from translating the questions on screen (but not the answers) there was no English. So they misled their viewers. It was also their longest stream at the time (I think it may still be the second longest, but I could be mistaken) which could imply they were enjoying it more than streaming to their English fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>Almost all of HoloJP waiting with bated breath to finally collab with FWMC
>Shiori stealthily turning into the Rushia that EN so desperately needed
>Nerissa doing so well the Shiori antis have moved to spamming her in the catalog
>Bijou officially completing the trifecta of endurance holomems with Koyori and Kaela

I honestly don't see the claims that EN3 is anything but a rousing success.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58026519
There are too many EN-pandering HoloEN already. I just want someone like Kotoka who bridges the JP and EN community

[Anonymous No.]

>>58045010
>Bijou officially completing the trifecta of endurance holomems with Koyori and Kaela
…Korone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57998847
You must be 18 to post here. No, seriously. It is physically and psychologically impossible for pubic hair to net get you into frenzied breeding mode as an adult man with a fully developed brain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58045264
Korone got dethroned a while ago imho

[Anonymous No.]

>>58044545
I know mococo is the one running tech support and stuff I just wish she let loose more instead of just repeating the same un un line over and over. I enjoy her when she voices pero so she definitely entertaining on her own rights.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58044712
So true sister #cut4hex

[Anonymous No.]

>>58021905
>>57996493
There is "fake cutesy voice" (gura/mumei/fauna) and then there's this telletubies abomination that's probably losing CCV because their viewers forget how to use youtube

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997092
>blacksanji getting mogged by tempus of all things
it comes tumbling down....

[Anonymous No.]

>>58045442
It is true, but you wouldn't know that because you don't watch streams. But I'm nice and I actually spoonfeed little niggers like you so open wide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixMyHJmLHLI&t=11885s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU-LEcQpxXM&t=12020s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwUMUwjyrYs&t=6450s

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997185
anon I don't think you know what unironically means...

[Anonymous No.]

>>58045442
is this what they call whiteknighting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997185
The quotation marks mean that the word was being used ironically, retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>58045754
Ok. I still dont get the cuck angle though sister

[Anonymous No.]

>>58045754
>>58045914
I've been following these girls since GGN and I'm a day one member. Anyone who follows these girls knows that they are huge otakus and like to please all their fans. Only retarded dramafags like you get angry when they speak Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>Ina's, the most bland, lazy and boring EN of them all

Ina is better than all of advent, retard
Not the best on EN tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>58046019
The people turning it into a cuck fantasy were Nijiniggers trying to stir up drama. This only really worked because there were people that were legitimately upset in the first place. This same stuff happened in the past with other members like Bae so this isn't even new.

>>58046204
>I've been following these girls since GGN and I'm a day one member
Don't care, didn't ask. I actually watch them so I was trying to explain to the threadreader why people still bring that stream up. If they had just said from the beginning that it would be Japanese only and not to expect any English then people (probably?) wouldn't have been so upset. Getting something different than what was promised is going to be upsetting in almost any context. A lot of EOPs and even normalfags get filtered by JP-oriented stuff so they might have been upset regardless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58045264
Grinder is probably a better term.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58046904
Oh no, two girls who are obsessed with Japanese culture, work for a Japanese company and receive thousands of dollars from their Japanese fans made a stream speaking Japanese. What a tragedy

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck is wrong with sea "people"?
>I LOVE fat bitches
>I LOVE old bitches
>I LOVE hairy bitches
Are all these posts femcel psyops or are you Jakartans so desperate for white/jap pussy you've started to fetishize the only filth attainable to you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58046904
You let yourself get trolled over the JP stream thing. I should know because I was one of the anons doing the trolling, and I still love FuwaMoco. Relax and learn to love the BAU BAU.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58046904
>The people turning it into a cuck fantasy were Nijiniggers trying to stir up drama
It really was obvious and it wasnt a coincidence Kotoka was getting blased for much, MUCH more blatant JP pandering mere days earlier.
>there were people that were legitimately upset
And it unfortunately shows how vulnerable Ruffians are and a consequence of Fuwamoco being free from any graver yabs; even the slightest campaign forcing the perception that they might have done something wrong (even though it literally is a fucking nothingburger because this has been the case with several holos both EN and JP) can actually upset some weakminded ruffians.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
Their gaming streams are bad but still somewhat fun, they are too noisy for me and even advent look down on them as a little retarded friend they just have to carry along. Their accent is annoying. Their gaming streaming time is too short. Their schedule is a mess with a gaming series having 1-2 weeks space between the next streams.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are numberthreads allowed outside of /#/?
Why hasn't SEA been rangebanned yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58047247
It's not just sea people, it's also the south americans and french

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
most people only watch debuts for the "i was here" thrill

[Anonymous No.]

they're fun but bijou ended up being the girl from advent i actually like watching

[Anonymous No.]

>>58048265
Just stopping by itt but this, they have 0 gaming ability basically and Hololive is mostly game content. Always comes back to bite people in the ass basically if they literally cannot fucking do anything in any game. Even Suisei has a game she's "good" at (Tetris), Gura is good at rhythm games but has no MD perms etc. Marine has no skills but is a true goddess at zatsu and Fuwamoco tied themselves up on zatsu topics by being ultra kayfabe mode all the time. I like the chars they play but they also are rather limited as a result of their design and have not much to fall back on because of it.

Still however they have very good stuff going with Fuwamoco morning and so on, it's just like straight up if the choice is "watch biboo play anything or watch fwmc okay anything" it's gonna usually be the rock unless the game in question is skill-proof and it's more about funny content like cooking simulator etc.

Like it is trite common content but Minecraft imo would unironically be good for Fuwamoco because it's a slow creative game that enables lots of random zatsu - if the alternative is trying to play a game that requires some actual learning or effort that is probably gonna be asking too much from them if even DKC is too hard for them. One can support and like them all one wants but nobody can make "trying to beat the same donkey kong level kids cleared in like 10-20 minutes for like two hours" into good exciting engaging content. It really wears down the patience people have.

[Anonymous No.]

they're boring now I'm now a certified pebblephile

[Anonymous No.]

>>58052036
But anon, the DKC streams were excellent. They absolutely made two hours of trying to beat the same donkey kong level into exciting engaging content. If anything the struggle added to the drama and the payoff of success. It helps that their video game badness is due more to inexperience than retardation, they were willing and able to learn about the game and try to improve.

[Anonymous No.]

The Backrooms stream was simultaneously the worst and the best stream they've done so far. Funny, but it would have been nice if they could made it to the first actual jumpscare at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58052764
It was funny to see their boundaries getting pushed but also an overall content disaster. I think Spookys Mansion is about as scary as a game can be for effective FWMC streaming

[Anonymous No.]

>>58052764
I watched their Spooky's playthrough and quite enjoyed it. I just wish they'd stop pausing every 20 seconds

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
>grown up adults can only tolerate literal dora the explorer and/or blues clues type of content for so long
>WhY dO tHeY lOoSe ViEwErS
yeah bro i rly don't know, sry

[Anonymous No.]

>>58053450
>>58053280
I think it's safe to say that they were truly afraid though and not acting. I doubt they'd sabotage their own streams for a bit.

[Anonymous No.]

What they need to do is do a JP collab every week, and use that opportunity to promote their FWMC mornings as a 癒し系 stream to the JP bros.

They dont have to play FOTM since it doesnt suit them anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

Ina isn't lazy at all, wtf are you smoking

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
Why dont they have a setup where they can both play on PC with other advent members...? Its so lazy to just see chihuaha or mococo playing MC/Terraria instead of both of them. They had years to figure this out

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
i've always liked them and always will but they unironically stream too much for a guy like me. i'm several broadcasts behind. best i can do now is wait for a rainy day to binge them

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
I love the twins, but googoo-gaga can only take you so far

[Anonymous No.]

>>58052036
>Marine has no skills
She’s the touhou girl. I know that and I don’t even watch her. Do more reps, newfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58000436
How does Fuwawa keep getting away with it?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>58023264
They have played horror almost every week since debut. Even though Mococo is a big scaredy dog

[Anonymous No.]

>>58050766
>south americans
Which is why zero pubes is called a Brazillian wax

[Anonymous No.]

>>58026454
They want to both play minecraft eventually, but they have to get a second PC and there's not a lot of room where they stream for a whole second set up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997088
They're not even native JP speakers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58052036
What are you talking about? Fuwawa is incredible at APEX.

I also think Fuwawa is really good at Sims type of games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58048265
>Gifted sub

[Anonymous No.]

>>58052597
It was nice if you want to see people struggle but tell me one streamer that does that for 2 hours and then doesn't touch the game for 2 weeks. Maybe they want to split the schedule between them. one week fuwawa one week mococo one week mixed but for the viewer this is concept is horrible. Everyone in Advent also seems to have at least 1 collab per week.
>>58059593
In your dream. I pay for it and will keep doing it next month. The Thread is about what went wrong not what do i love about fuwamoco.

[Anonymous No.]

They literally had 10,300 on their morning stream today though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58059825
They had double that 2 weeks ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997092
>tempus 4.5k
>"PLEASE BE FUNNY"
Sounds like he's pleading.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58059874
This is their Morning Streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>58045715
Tempus has done okay even after vesper and magni leaving while nijisanji has nothing but drama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58059941
They had double that 2 weeks before that

[Anonymous No.]

>>58060054
In other words the twins stabilized.
Bijou stabilized.
Nerissa declining a little.
Shiori declining the most. From second, to last.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997373
>pubes
disgusting

[Anonymous No.]

The twins do worse numbers with the more unpopular stuff like retro games from PS2 and N64, cookies and cream, sakura wars, donkey kong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997018
Vox is getting mogged by Kaela now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58031414
When I try to watch them, I catch myself that I treat them as white noise, because of repeated mannerisms, Ill watch fuwamoco morning and they just start talking about something "four word sentence" bau bau bau bau, "another short sentence" bau bau bau bau...you get what I mean and I just click off from stream thinking ah that's boring I'll check on them again in a few minutes when they are done and when few minutes passes they are either on same thing or I forgot about them or got myself occupied with something else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58060835
As much as I love FuwaMoco I don't need to see another playthrough of Ocarina of Time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58044712
There are a lot of somewhat wild implications, which have some ground, but a shaky one. They did pick very few English questions/supas, while during their EN stream they picked a fair amount of JP questions during QnA, they did less baubauing, which is I'm not sure what they prefer, but ruffians in the thread were calling ENs retards for baubauing so much, but it's FWMC fault for doing that, obviously jap will baubau less, because they either weren't there for streams, or have the same comprehension of English as I do of Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58058378
Not last week and not this week. I doubt they'll do it next week.
>>58038270
>Stop acting like you have them figured out.
But I do. I'm sorry that you're retarded and incapable of thinking on my level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58038325
>They’re two whores
Wrong. They're both virgins.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58031414
>in the long and large of it
this supposed to be Canadian or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997018
I ain't reading all that shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>58062195
I think the issue is that the thing that pushes you away is exactly what people who enjoy them like, that "turn brain off" thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58063394
Why have long and short when you could have long and large?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58063451
I guess, it's just when I listen them with my brain turned off, they are on my low priority list, for example I listen to their morning show right...and I'm scrolling YouTube and see a song, or a short video in interested in, I'll pause their stream and check what I am more interested.
I get that everyone is different and clearly people like to do it the way you said since they are retaining decent ccv, but that's my gripe with them, I can't really put them on higher priority in my zoomer brain, makes sense they are advertised oji-san friendly kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996792
>Must be so frustrating
Yeah, don't you just hate when you have to put actual effort while working? I wish they just sat there and reacted to youtube videos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996402
>I thought they w
Don't care, opinion ignored, must bau bau

[Anonymous No.]

>>58046904
Grow up. Or learn Japanese faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58052036
Nobody watches the girls to be good at games retard, People watches them to watch them suffer when they're playing games. Yes there a rare exceptions who are good at games but I promise you nobody is watching them because they're good at games.

[Anonymous No.]

It's because if you don't know japanese you miss at least one third of the stream.
And they don't stream at times where JP ruffians can watch.
That's why every FWMC morning gets ton of views and all their other content gets shitty ccv.

Honestly don't understand how or why people would watch them if they don't speak or are already leaning japanese since their plans involve moving to japan next year

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997092
Uh, sisters? Our narratives???

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996792
wow, it's just like with Fubuki, Matsuri, Suisei, Luna...

[Anonymous No.]

>>58064821
YWNBJ sister

[Anonymous No.]

>>58052036
0 gaming ability is an asset, why do you think Backrooms stream was one of their best streams up to date, while they didn't even managed to leave tutorial area in two hours?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58000945
Luxiem became big thanks to China
The rest became luxiem accessories so their OG fans left
China left
You are here

[Anonymous No.]

>>58059947
Bettel is carrying the entirety of HolostarsEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>58067770
Can't wait for him to fuck off to Vshonen and Tempiss to die.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997527
Well yes my name is literally nobody. Are you a fed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57996493
I don't mind kayfabe but holy shit the way they say things to you as if they're pandering to actual children. Not for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58052036
>Marine has no skills
>Mogged everybody at Puyo Tetris
>Always in the top 3 in the Mario kart tournament
>Is leading with something like 5-2 against Korone in their fast clear competition series
>Danmaku goddess
>Overall a good variety gamer.
I stopped reading from that point. EOP newfag, therefore opinion discarded. Go do your reps

[Anonymous No.]

>>57997373
Why did you post this? I literally just beat my dick.

[Anonymous No.]

honestly the real reason is they doing tons of gaming streams that instead of taking 1-4 streams to clear it takes 8++ because of their very short streams
for example sakura wars V the last westaboo takes like 19 hours to clear from my save, then factor fwmc being one of the worst gamer in the company (nothing wrong with this by itself) i predict it takes 23 hours total for them, not many willing to keep watching after part 8+ unless its a streamer game or fotm like AC6
this causes people to skip many of their game streams and only come for their karaoke and fwmc morning

[Anonymous No.]

>>58067770
and he has enough of carrying them. expect shorter/less streams

[Anonymous No.]

EOPs...

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