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5690353 No.5690353 [Reply] [Original]

Is it true that nobody cares about Kizuna Ai anymore? I don't think I've ever seen her thread on /vt/.

>> No.5690432

>>5690353
AI
AI
AI

>> No.5690553

>>5690353
She's still more popular in Japan than Hololive is

>> No.5690561

>>5690432
CHUME
CHUME
CHUME

>> No.5690655

There are Kizuna AI threads, but they're almost always about her stagnation and decline. I've never seen a thread with earnest Kizuna fans discussing her content.

>> No.5690735

>>5690655
I’m always up for discussing her breasts.

>> No.5690772

>>5690553
By what metric?

>> No.5690776

>>5690553
Yeah, that 70k on her new MV after 2 days really tells me that. She just barely beats Matsuri's new cover song by 5k and that's only been out a little over a day.

>> No.5690827

>>5690553
>>>5690353 (OP)
She's still more popular in Japan than Hololive is
Based on what

>> No.5690868

She's more of a legit Japanese celebrity than a streamer these days. Plus /vt/ is the most inaccurate place to use as a scale for popularity, likability, or well...pretty much everything. There are like 500 people here max.

>> No.5690878

>>5690553
Popular to the companies yes, the average viewer don't

>> No.5690918

>>5690776
>Implying youtube views = popularity
Platforms other than youtube exist

>> No.5690927

>>5690353
Do your reps, anon. She's here plenty.

>> No.5690950

>>5690776
>MV has 70k after 2days
Holy shit never thought she was that bad

>> No.5691016

>>5690655
There were the two threads recently about her two US tour concerts. But Kizuners like myself are a rarity on this board and Ai's content doesn't really lend itself to much discussion outside the occasional big events.

>> No.5691021

>>5690553
to average normie who never watched vtubers but who got into hole she is irrelevant
>>5690353
i only listen to her concerts other than that i don't care

>> No.5691022

>>5690878
Hololive is literally run by a company

>> No.5691406

>>5691022
I think you missed his point or read it wrong.

>> No.5691507

>>5691406
How so?

>> No.5691882
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5691882

>>5690553
>>5690868
This is always a funny cope because when discussing how she's definitely not being blown out by vtuber metrics, the only tactic left is asserting that this vtuber is popular at everything except being a vtuber.
Oh, she's a "real" celebrity now? Even real celebrities can manage a million views on their videos.
Kizuna Ai and the old guard unironically died in February of 2018 and everybody is still too busy pretending it still hasn't happened yet.

>> No.5692829

>>5690353
I'm not even sure what happened, one day I was a fan, the next day I forgot she existed. I wasn't even aware of the voice actor drama shit too, and it seems a lot of people dropped off after that drama.

>> No.5692889

>>5690353
Yes, and let's keep it that way. The more she's brought up, the more holobronies feel like they need to shit on her.

>> No.5693155

>>5690353
She disappeared for a long time because she had a TV deal in Japan and she was bought by the Chinese.

>> No.5693276

>>5692889
Gonna make a thread on the day of her birthday party to celebrate with the three other Kizuners on this board.

>> No.5693823

>>5693276
All 3 are me btw

>> No.5694040

>>5690353
because /vt/ is r/hololive

all other threads die within minutes, nijiniggers try hard to bump their threads but even then they only last one hour at most

>> No.5694151

Ai, Shiro, Luna, Akari.

Those were the days..........

>> No.5694180

>>5691882
>golden_age_arc.jpg

>> No.5694312

>>5694040
She didn't have threads on /jp/ either.

>> No.5694483

>>5692889
bad popularity = popularity.
even if 9 of 10 people who read about you get a distaste for you as long as that one small percentage of the audience recognizes you and watch your content its good. because people talk about you then traffic bumps up, its like kiara and how despite being so hated on this board she had such a huge boost in popularity due to this.

this is exactly how trump was elected in 2016.

>> No.5694672

>>5694312

there was literally a few threads about her like an hour ago,
also even if there isn't a thread directly about her, she gets mentioned on jp a lot almost every thread at least once.

using this logic, pekora wouldn't be popular then?
she gets the least threads out of everyone in hololive, but she gets so many reaction images and gets mentioned almost every thread.

>> No.5694778

Kizuna AI got a Neptunia playable character appearance in their Vtuber game. Everyone else was a loading screen.

>> No.5695588

>>5694778
Nobody cares about Neptunia anymore either.

>> No.5698934

>>5690553
>>5690827
Hololive lives rent free in your heads and it shows but no, in this case, companies like Niji and 774 and other emerging indies with decent populariry like Natori killed Kizuna long before Hololive reached its current level of success.

>> No.5705298

>>5690655
I made one before but it died after a few posts.

>> No.5705872

>>5690353
A dead, boring and stagnant vchuuba that get popular only on lies about being "the first".
She's over.

>> No.5706308

>>5690878
Even that is just for now. Her metrics are bad and she's not gonna be prioritized for sponsorships. Not that that matters for shark though. There's no way that she could appear for a tv interview or anything. She'd shit herself.

>> No.5706372

>>5691882
>February of 2018
qrd?

>> No.5706719

>>5690353
I care, but I never watched her. I just feel bad for her.

>> No.5707039

>>5706372
Most likely referring to Nijisanji entering the market and shifting it from 3D avatar pre-recorded content to Live2D avatar livestreaming content. Not that it really killed any of them since most of them adapted by shifting to music or TV based careers.

>> No.5707955

>>5690353
The problem with her is she rarely puts stuff up on YT and it's usually just prerecorded shorts.

>> No.5708022

>>5694312
newfag

>> No.5710671

>>5705872
She is the first.

>> No.5710870

>>5705872
Kizuna was genuinely entertaining though.

>> No.5710937

>>5690553
No she isn't.

>> No.5711397
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5711397

>>5690353
Felt like something magical happened when it all started. Good times. Especially enjoyed her collab videos, those felt less scripted and her personality had more time to shine. Hope the girl behind that avatar is doing well.

>> No.5711440

>>5690353
something about VAs changing over the years.. not really sure

>> No.5722630

>>5711397
>>5711440
how sad, really hope she do well

>> No.5731732

>>5711440
She didn't change, she address this SEVERAL times in videos, translated too.

There are rrats about the other ai's meant to replace her but regardless it was poor management and confusion within the fanbase, the only thing that's certain is we have a chinese ai with her own name (which I forgot because fuck chink-ai) love-chan (who got a 3d model) and the younger one retired, all are individuals

You may think I'm an ai chan simp but I'm more into her ex-girlfriend who is m.i.a

>> No.5731810

>>5694778
So was a literal who with a boomerang thing, frankly I'm surprised by the vtubers featured.

>hololive membners just as loading screens
>mask as well as PAID dlc which is a stupid work around for not making the rest playable
>many vtubers features are infact retired like pinky pop hepburn

Clearly all thought up months or years in advance, frankly those who want into pinky pop hepburn are gonna be upset she's retired by the time they played

>> No.5731826

I still coom to her a lot

>> No.5733469

>>5690353
those doujinshi of her getting impregnated on livestream are pretty hot

>> No.5734709

I just got targeted by her russian/english ad for her concert kek

>> No.5735070

>>5690553
SOURCE MY ASS

>> No.5735100

Who?

>> No.5735107

haven't watch her since ai said chinese taiwan

>> No.5735119

>>5690353
I want to lick her armpits.

>> No.5735127

>>5690353
I'm under the impression she's aiming for mainstream media like television while places like hololive just do youtube and some videogames.

With that I don't really compare her to vtubers these days, I never really watched her stuff but I recognized the memes.

>> No.5735206

>>5691507
Not either of those, but I’ll teach you. Kizuna Ai is, according to him, popular to companies – sponsors and such.

>> No.5736071

>>5690735
Whose breast were bigger back then Ai, Luna, or Akari?

>> No.5736396

>>5694672
Using Pekora as example is kinda bad because numberfags love pitting Pekora and Gura in their numbers wars

>> No.5743621

>>5735127
>Doesn't care about vtuber content.
>OG is forever Queen of vtubers

>> No.5750773

>>5690353
>Kizuna Ai
Who?

>> No.5751117

>>5750773
she's that washed up idol who started selling her body to ojii-sans to pay the bills

>> No.5753365

>>5690353
Korone is everything Kizuna could never be

>> No.5754202

>>5753365
So, Korone is nothing?

>> No.5755783

she works so hard, I used to watch her a lot, it was probably her that pushed me down this slippery slope
plus her collabs are always kino https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzzDa5TuFnc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5FNs2Q9DQk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sG-LadulOo (she sung the OP)

>> No.5756097

>>5690353
Kizuna was a trailblazer but never got big in the routine of constant live streaming, being much more of a premade show handled by a team, often literally just reading scripts etc. She's like the Myspace of vtubers, the first big breakout but as it turned out her setup was not destined to remain the meta as the big-winner formula.

I remember she'd get posted on /v/ semi-often and such and forced in when doable and I mean people generally liked her randumb humor and snarky 4th wall breaking type stuff - but this wasn't done with live audiences and not improvised so was kind of a transition point between completely pre-made/scripted things like anime and mostly improv live streamed stuff where they literally can interact with the audience like today.

Due to her being the first big name with her permanent seniority, and both inoffensive generally but also controllable inherently as a character, vs a live person who has the potential to say the wrong thing or run their mouth in a stream and demolish their reputation? She's just a better sell to corporate sponsor type stuff as there's zero risk of and she's got the recognition for brand promotions that they'd want. I guarantee for years the pitch is always "she's the world's biggest vtuber!!" going off the subcount. Soon, within a fucking week, that sales pitch dies. She'll still be around of course but now basically everyone including Japanese corpos have to come to terms with the fact she's a has-been.

On the other hand Gura is not likely to go do a bunch of Japanese sponsorship stuff for shoes or a Lawson or whatever once those people go after her for having the "world's biggest vtuber" crown, since she's a foreigner and it'd be weird for them to promote someone who doesn't actually speak Japanese and many Japanese can't understand well at all. So it's likely Ai's marketing reach will probably remain pretty strong anyway.

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