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5660807 No.5660807 [Reply] [Original]

Contrarianism is deeply embedded in 4chan culture so on other boards popular things are usually perceived as trash, mainstream or normalfag tier so why are le meme shark and other top dog holos, by extension, so popular on /vt/? Why don't underdogs like Choco, Mel, Aki, Azuki get so much more attention?
Why does Hololive have so many loyalits here in the first place?

>> No.5660838

>>5660807
Because this board is full of Reddit tourists who don't understand or fit in with board culture

>> No.5660872

>>5660807
> mainstream or normalfag tier so why are le meme shark and other top dog holos
Because this board is full of normalfag tourist that should fuck off.

>> No.5660903

Why are you equating amount of discussion with the overall opinion of someone?

>> No.5661005

>>5660838
fpbp

>> No.5661051

>>5660838
Culture is made by the population who actively participates in it, and when the majority are Reddit tourists, then mainstream shit IS the board culture.

>> No.5661059

>>5660807
Contrarianism simply to be contrarian is cringe and why browsing this site feels like wading through a sewer to find nuggets of gold

>> No.5661085

>>5660807
I've often wondered this myself. I think this guy has it right >>5660838

>> No.5661145

>>5660838
>>5661051
sadly this board is an extension of hololive global, the gathering ground for EN newfags so retarded shit like shunning people who encourage learning japanese becomes the norm

>> No.5661188

>>5661145
if this site was allowed to exist under a world of nazism /pol/ would be full of woke libtards, and probably the same people too

>> No.5661226
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5661226

>>5660807
Damn, too many big words. I want to fuck AZKI though

>> No.5661238

Does /mlp? hate MLP and instead talk about Them's Fighting Herds or whatever the fuck?

>> No.5661286

>>5660807
I'm not loyal to hololive but only to my oshi

>> No.5661302

>>5660838
This

>> No.5661333

>>5660807
Holobronies are disgusting

>> No.5661339

>>5661226
We all do anon. We all do.

>> No.5661622

>>5660807
Holobronies need to get their own board

>> No.5661700

>>5661622
They already have one on Futaba, because every Hololive thread in the vtuber board was constantly raided during the copyright purge

>> No.5661897

>>5661145
It still entertains me greatly how many newfags got into this from Hololive and then were legitimately offended by the natural response from /jp/sies getting invaded resulting in them collectively channeling their umbrage towards Nijisanji since they were the main thread "favorite" up to that point.

>> No.5662634

>>5661622
This board needs to be deleted.

>> No.5663134

>>5661059
I used to think the same, but jesus I'd rather have 10,000 posts of "popular thing bad" than the outright "higher numbers is more better" you get here.

>> No.5663963

>>5660807
Because when vtubing blew up back in /jp/ it was all about Hololive and some people never bothered to try anything else since.

>> No.5669014

>>5660807
I remember the old /JP/ threads hating Mito, who was one of the most popular at the time, was a common occurrence. People use to SHIT on others for liking the top % vtubers back in 2018 early 2019.
All the Holotourists ruined that.
>>5661622
This is the hololive / eop containment board...
>>5661700
More like JP hololive fans are just as insufferable as english ones and would derail every thread to try be about hololive that it pissed people off, same way ponyfags did before.

>> No.5669221

>>5660807
contrarians are worse than redditors and dare i say, they're even worse than twitterfags
>muh culture
yeah just like blacks have their >muh dick

>> No.5669313

>>5660807
What are you talking about you gay faggot? Bring up gura outside /ggg/ and it's constant shit talk.

>> No.5669328

>>5669221
you sound like you don't belong here

>> No.5669450

>>5669014
>More like JP hololive fans are just as insufferable as english ones and would derail every thread to try be about hololive that it pissed people off, same way ponyfags did before.
This a fact or just your rrat?

>> No.5669546

>>5660807
>le meme shark popular in /vt/
If popular means get shitted on, then yes

>> No.5669549

>>5660838
this, just look at the amount of people here who watch reddit review.

>> No.5669603

>>5660807
Remember when people could shit on coco and not get called a zhang

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5669607

>>5660807
/jp/ was tired of all Holo threads killing Touhous and /v/ meidos were tired of VTuber stuff so we got our own gutter. This place is still under Otaku Culture, it's isn't "popular" at all.

>> No.5669648

>>5669450
Why do you think they're called holobronys?

>> No.5669714

>>5669450
No, it's like >>5661700 said. Futaba was the Holoanti central and when Hololive's popularity grew enough, they had to create a separate board so that holofags could discuss their chuubas without constantly getting raided and shat on.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure this guy desperately repeating the word holobrony is just one particularly butthurt guy and a couple of copycats, a tiny Discord channel at most.

>> No.5669955
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5669955

>>5669607
You are not only implying that /vt/ is a containment board (which is false, as evidenced by the existence of /hlg/ and other vtuber threads in /jp/) but also claiming Hololive isn't popular when it's all over mainstream weeb media.
This is the single most retarded post on this thread right now. Please look back to what you just typed out.

>> No.5670266

>>5661622
We do, this one. You're on our turf, motherfucker.

>> No.5670301

>>5669714
My guess is just the one guy.

>> No.5670816

>>5669955
>You are not only implying that /vt/ is a containment board (which is false, as evidenced by the existence of /hlg/ and other vtuber threads in /jp/)
thats like saying /vp/ isnt a containment board because there are still pokemon threads on /v/

>> No.5670890

>>5669955
It's a containment board to keep the EOPs who only want to talk about clips and english vtubers out of /jp/

>> No.5675535

>>5670816
In that sense every board is a containment board.

>> No.5676422

>>5661051
false.
If jews, hypothetically, we're all replaced with black men in Israel, that does not mean that Israel's culture is suddenly R&B, Hip Hop, etc.

Same thing is true of board culture. It doesn't matter if you flood it, it matters if the culture actually changed as an abstract progression of thoughts. There's a logic to it.

I mean of course, you can flood a place and vandalize it's culture, but that flooding will never be something genuine.

>> No.5676692

>>5661188
also false. /pol/ became flooded too. Originally, the reason that /pol/ became primarily libertarian fascists and national socialist is because the people with those beliefs were allowed to speak and present their beliefs and ideas along with sources. That convinced people of the merit against neoliberalism and communism, who had to present the real world sources and examples of their ideas. Those ideas failed to meet the same merit, and the frustration of debating led to bad faith on neoliberals and communists, who eventually left after being laughed out.

They then held up primarily on news, bunker chan, and tried to make lefty/pol/ threads, regularly getting laughed at there as well.

So no, in a natsoc world, /pol/ would be primarily natsoc. "na'zi, nahzee, etc" is a made up term by an angry jewish propagandist, national socialists don't use that word to describe themselves, they use national socialist.

It's not about contrarianism, that was a phase 4chan had from about 2007 - 2009 (cancerous period).

>> No.5677317

>>5661622
I completely support this. Fuck Western trash
>t. Hololive fan

>> No.5677535

>>5670890
And yet Holoshit threads are still spammed every day. They don't even belong on /vt/ either. It should be a Global Rule 15 specifically for Holobronies. This is a shared sentiment across this board. Deal with it, Holotoddler.

>> No.5677641

>>5669714
We call them Holobronies because they are the bronies a decade later and need their own fucking board already. Hiro should be slaughtered for not acting on this sooner.

>> No.5677692

>>5669714
>Anyway, I'm pretty sure this guy desperately repeating the word holobrony is just one particularly butthurt guy and a couple of copycats, a tiny Discord channel at most.
Read the fucking room. NO ONE HERE WANTS HOLOSHIT THREADS EXCEPT HOLOBRONIES THEMSELVES. YOU'VE BEEN TOLD 100 TIMES TO FUCK OFF THIS BOARD OUTSIDE YOUR CONTAINMENT THREADS

>> No.5677757

>>5660807
4chan isn't contrarian at all. Politically, they're just in favor of a radical implementation of the status quo. Culturally, look at /mu/ - where they only care about what certain critics and websites thing, or /tv/, where it's the same "prestige" and well-funded American shit. 4chan is about as counter-cultural as a middle class anarchist who is a shoe-in in their rich grandad's will.

>> No.5677904

>>5677757
Go back

>> No.5677939

>>5677757
You don't know what you're talking about at all. What an absolutely retarded post. Are all Holobronies this normalfag?

>> No.5678079

And here I thought this was an AZKi thread

>> No.5678194

>>5660807
the contrarians are so contrarian that they already jumped ship to nijisanjiEN recently, you don't see them anymore because they're elsewhere

>> No.5678298

>>5677757
Holy fucking tourist. You do realize most music critics are based out of 4chan?

>> No.5678575

>>5660807
Liking/shilling something because its not popular is just as shit as hating something because it is popular. No one is gonna like a chuuba just because they're not popular. They have to consistently be entertaining to watch. Those girls you listed just aren't that interesting and have the popularity/following they deserve. 4chan culture has fuck all to do with it

>> No.5678578

>>5678298
>>5678194
>>5677939
>>5677904

I live for the cope baby

>> No.5678657

>>5660807
>Contrarianism is deeply embedded in 4chan culture
That's not even true. Every board only talks about mainstream trash. You're lucky to find more interesting obscure shit discussed.

>> No.5678720

>>5678298
What does that tell you? 4chan IS the mainstream.

>> No.5678745

>>5660807
Modern 4Chan contrarianism is based on shitting on what's popular, not enjoying the obscure.
Your average shitposter that spams "cumbuds" "does kfp really" or "vwhorejo" only watches clips and doesn't speak Japanese, so it's impossible for them to enjoy someone like Aki.

>> No.5678765

>>5676692
the backed up with facts and logic shit is revisionism,like most of the site, it got overwhelmed with numbers of underage tourists that no actual debate could take place anymore. Not wanting to hang out in a place where stormfags and facebook boomers openly shit on the floor isn't getting btfo

>> No.5678821

>>5678079
/pol/acks are off their bans I guess

>> No.5678936

>>5678821
I thought /pol/ doesn't ban people?

>> No.5681655

>>5669450
Japanese Vtuber fans called hololive's fans "Horocorn" for a reason

>> No.5681746

>>5669714
People called them holobronies because they spam hololive pics in every board like fucking bronies did

>> No.5681811

>>5660838
Fpbp no need to read the rest of the thread.

>> No.5681884

Hololive fans are more like KPOP stans than bronies imo: >>5676857

>> No.5681923

>>5678745
This, they are so uneducated that they only know hololive exist, can't be contrarian if you only have one choice

>> No.5682030

>>5678720
Correct. And as contrarianism is the norm on Facebook and Twitter now, an entire generation resemble the soul of this website today. Get fucked normalfags.

>> No.5682070

>>5669714
We call them Holobronies because they can't stop fucking breaking containment on boards that matter more than this shithole.

>> No.5682215

It is because I love my oshi that I would never want the scum of this board to infest her life

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