Was CouncilRyS a big failure?

[Anonymous No.]

They debuted in 2021, and not a single one was 1 million subscribers.

Soon Fuwamoco will surpass the weakest Council member...

[Anonymous No.]

>>56546640
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

Yeah

[Anonymous No.]

I guess

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>>56546640
Yes. Only Kronii and arguably Fauna used their debut buff periods well. Bae and Sana were playing Kusoge and Bae debuffed herself even further by translating everything to Japanese (Kiara also got a lot of shit for it before). Mumei seemed like one of the most boring girls in the universe. It took her a long time to get going. She is great now but the debut month was rough.

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>>56546640
>They debuted in 2021, and not a single one was 1 million subscribers.
Have you considered that they aren't very good and a large part of what has helped them has been in Holo?

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>>56546640
EN management (Omegay) thought that just debuting new talent would be enough to guarantee their success. Mori telling them to take it easy didn't help either. Compare Moom's and FWMC's first schedules for example. Moom had 4 streams, FWMC had 12. It's clear how much more Advent is trying right out of the gate than Council was. That and Susan culling subs 3 times, ruining Council's success in the algorithm.

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>>56546640
Council suffered so Advent could thrive. Everything that went wrong with Council, and that includes YouTube fuckery and management hell, was a learning experience that helped Advent debuts be way smoother than ever.
Then again, subs alone aren't a deciding metric anyway. Fauna and Mumei usually bring higher CCV than the rest of EN 1/2 except Gura. FWMC, the golden girls of EN3, still with some debut buff in place, are streaming right now with 8k watching, no higher than aforementioned Fauna/Mumei average. Council isn't dead yet, but you can't be Kronii who hates her fanbase if you want to stay relevant.

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>>56546640
They sucked my dick so no.

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>>56546640
What a stupid fucking success metric.
It's about money, especially merch sales.
If you had 7 billion subs but no one tuned in donated subbed or bought merch you might as well be a 1view

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>>56546640
It's just Fauna and Mumei that have actually succeeded
Also they at least mog ShilloX, the actual big failure gen of Hololive for what it's worth.

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>>56546640
Sounds like they're more successful than the most shilled JP Gen to me

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>>56546640
Yeah Council didn't do as good as they expected

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>>56546640
IRyS is the biggest flop out of them, started with 500k subs on her first week and so far still hasnt reach the 1M milestone, had she debuted with Council she would be fighting for the runt position with Bae

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>>56553411
Not to mention she only averages 6K since January after being a regular 10K+ CCV and squandered her vocal abilities just to be lazy and take further advantage of being in Hololive

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>>56553411
She only had like 40 days headstart over Council.

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>>56553411
my dick flops out of my boxers bigly whenever I see Irys and hear her sing

[Anonymous No.]

Haven't really been checking fuwamoco recently have you? They are dipping below 10k now and their subs have slowed down quite a bit.

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>>56553539
She had 500k one week after debuting, Mumei took a month to reach 300k after debut, IRyS was hard carried by debuting alone

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>>56546640
>Soon Fuwamoco will surpass the weakest Council member...
in 2 weeks right? 2 weeks??

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>>56553539
And yet she's about to lose the first to 1M to Mumei, crat

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>>56553503
The problem is she streams at super stupid time - pretty late for US, impossibly early for EU, early afternoon for Japan too, it's hard to actually tune in.

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>>56553543
I'm sorry you're a cuck who gets off to Br*an's sloppy seconds, crat

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>>56546640
Advent will bottom out quicker than Council. Only Fuwamoco will break 1 million subs

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>>56546640
none of them will reach Council numbers within the next 2 years

[Anonymous No.]

>shit numberfagging thread gets taken over from actual schizos from /#/
This IRyS schizo has been ban evading and samefagging for the past day, just put the thread out of its misery

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>>56553819
She did this last year and got 10K per stream
What happened, crat? Why have ex-Irystocrats moved onto Gura, Fauna, Mumei, and Nerissa in droves this year?

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>>56553674
Also IRyS didn't get culled into the ground as far as I remember. Council had it the WORST of all debuts. Everyday just chunks of subs being snapped out of existence.

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>>56553885
Cope harder, Crat. Irys deserves everything coming to her and the board is making that known

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>>56553957
>muh cull
Mumei also got culled and she's inclining 5x more than Shitrys is

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>>56546640

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>>56553957
I wonder what would be their estimated subs today if not for that?

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>>56551823
Mumei only brings higher CCV than anything because 1) the rest are on a constant decline and 2) she barely ever streams and when she does it's shitty retarded GFE talks about her day crap and FOTM shit. When she plays any sort of normal game, she's basically only slightly better than Bae.

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>>56554170
Talking about your day is GFE? Do Holofags really kek

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>>56554170
Fauna is inclining again. Even has a higher CCV than most of JP now as we saw for the Hololive Pokemon Tournament

[Anonymous No.]

Damn fauna really has the least subs? She gets hella viewers live

[Anonymous No.]

For me its Council. They actually have chemistry while Adent feels fake. I hope the dogs switch to JP and Shiorin sticks Solo NTR GFE

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>>56554399
That's Bae

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>>56546640
>Soon Fuwamoco will surpass the weakest Council member...
Technically that already happened.
Sana existed after all.

[Anonymous No.]

FuwaMoco
Nanashi Mumei
Ceres Fauna
Nerissa Ravencroft
Bijou Koseki
This is the ultimate line up, scrap the rest of them

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>>56554399
Subs are heavily influenced by the debut period and a bunch of other factors like design and voice and tourist appeal. Zeta has like 140k more subs than Kaela despite Kaela getting better CCV, vod views, SC, basically every metric.

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>>56554495
>Bijou instead of Gura

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>>56546640
FWMC are secretly a pro-tr*ns psy-op (look at their colors) being pushed hard by Big Schnoz. That’s why their content is aimed squarely at children and mentally delayed (liberal) “men”. These same forces are working to actively suppress based-tubers like Shiori, explaining why she is the runt of this gen.
You may not notice FWMC’s political stances as they keep them as subtle, “dog whistles,” if you will, but they are the beginning of the end of Hololive. Wait and see.

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>>56546640
>The most seiso and unicorn pandering girl
>Barely above the literal whore that visited multiple males and simps for Roberu on stream
>Losing to the other literal whore that lied and betrayed her fanbase twice over
Unicucks? Explain?!

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>>56554581
I only listed Council and Advent since they're flopping already, Myth got to keep the rest of the member, just because

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>>56554301
Didn't you know? She's a poor, shy, socially anxious wallflower IRL! Just talking about her day is basically offering her virginity in conversational format!

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>>56554699
I like the doggos but you're onto something.
>>56554838
All of Myth outside Gura is unwatchable

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>>56554771
Kronii is mostly dead subs, simple as.

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>>56554399
Saplings are literally addicted to her despite no GFE baiting as far as I'm concerned.

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>>56553908
No she didn't, her numbers are pretty much the same as they were last year. She's actually had some of the most stable audience retention in all of holoEN, she just isn't growing either.

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>>56555026
There's no way Mumei lost more than 10% of her viewers with her CCV this year.

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>>56554922
They're all dead subs for the most part. Retards here think subs are anything besides spur of the moment fire and forget instants and sock puppet channels padding.

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>>56554901
Fine,
Gawr Gura
Mori Calliope
Nanashi Mumei
Ceres Fauna
Koseki Bijou
Nerissa Ravencroft
FuwaMoco

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>>56546640
Well, losing 150k subs kinda hurts...

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>>56555097
NTA but Mumei's viewers are heavily dependent on how many tourist friendly streams she does, since she can get a lot of viewers with those, but has average numbers for gaming/chatting streams

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>>56555097
She has, but a lot of that has to do with her streaming half as much, but not infrequently enough to get the "every stream is a big event" buff that Gura was getting until recently.

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>>56554399
>hella
Hi Nerissa.

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>>56555212
>Mori
Kiara would be better

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>>56554922
>X is mostly dead subs, simple as.
You could say that for literally every YT corpo chuuba anon. Gura sitting on 4M but can't even squeeze 2k out of her 10~k viewers after 2 weeks of streaming

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>>56555097
She was both declining and going on foreverbreaks this year. Just because she's getting some greys from raids and pandering zatsu+karaoke streams doesn't erase how crappy and desperate she's getting.

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>>56555279
I only account to her early music career that help incline the rest of the myth, for better or worse her music went and beyond Hololive niche and attracted new people to subs, Kiara however is actually the Glue of this gens, so yeah maybe I should added her

[Anonymous No.]

Nobody cares about those EN bitches.
The top and best vtubers are all in JP, since there are a fuckton of channels that translates clips to english, there is no need to follow those EN bitches.

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>>56553411
Well, there was the Kiara incident. not gonna talk about that.
>>56553503
How is she lazy? she had the most hours per stream on EN during her debut, averaging 4-6hrs per stream that stretches throughout the entire year. Also why IRyStocrats were worried cause it did strained her throat.

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>>56554771
subs are a meaningless metric, try something that actually matters

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>>56548305
Newfag schizo none of them were using it “properly” and if we’re basing it on subs mumei was always second

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>>56551301
>Holox

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>>56553727
anon...... you do remember sana, right?

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>>56553259
2 of them are at a million with another one almost there

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>>56554121
All active members would be above 1mil easy, sana might been at 700k when she graduated

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>>56555020
as one of the very few ex-saplings, this is very true. fauna is like black tar heroin

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>>56559635
stay strong

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>>56559676
I drifted around for a while and am a jailbird now. I've also learned how to watch Fauna streams without getting addicted

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>>56553330
Laplus ruined holox. Not even Cover’s massive shilling can make the nips forgive her so making that collab happen on laplus’ channel is a huge debuff.
Also outside of koyokuro they are not close to each other at all so there’s no demand for holox as a group outside of normalfags.

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>>56546640

They're only a failure by Myth standards. Most other Vtubers would kill to be in Council's position.

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>>56554315
Retard and a newfag

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>>56554561
This came after her collab with Gura gave her a lot of tourist and game vods are a better metric for viewers

[Anonymous No.]

The channel subscriber metrics really don't mean anything. Everyone on Council has multiple times less than subs than even the weakest Myth member yet everyone except Bae regularly beat Myth (minus Gura) in concurrent viewership.

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>>56546640
They simply weren't as appealing as myth, and their dumb lore made it harder for people to get invested. That, plus Susan's youtube culls meant they'd struggle.

Sana: Dog died, back hurt, didn't stream. Wasted slot.
IRyS: Great singer but had the debuff of the ugliest model ever for years.
Bae: Immediately outed herself as a homofag.
Kronii: Hates her model and her fanbase almost as much as she hates herself.
Mumei: Constantly taking breaks, no regular schedule, seems to be permanently sick.
Fauna: The best of a bad bunch, but ASMR filters a lot of people.

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>>56553411
I don't really know what they were trying to do with Irys. She was the only one to debut by herself so my expectations were way higher since I thought Cover somehow found a talent they couldn't pass up.

She really could've just been part of Council. Nothing about her is different enough that it warranted a single debut. Nerissa and FWMC are both formally trained (and frankly better) singers and they just debuted in a normal generation instead.

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>>56554121
why is Gura still 4mil then?

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>>56555026
So this is why people are so upset. Mythfags in shambles all the time since not even chumkeks want to be associated with their autism.

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>>56560912
Also and everyone forgets this. They had to cancel their debut and move it back due to tech issues without a day to comeback and a lot of those viewers never came back when they finally did debut. Then Susan nuked like half their subs. CCVID. Omega stealing the groups thunder.

Not to mention their debuts were BAAAAAD. Bae kept screaming and being le wacky, Mumei had mumbled autisticly the entire time, Sana's was fun but very Australian. Only Fauna and Kronii really had strong debuts but Fauna was labeled as boring so she didn't vs Kronii who everyone was like UWAAAAAHHHHH SEX VOICE.

It wasn't until about a solid month in that they started to find their feet and by then the debut buff was looking gone.

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>>56562028
omega was the single worst thing to ever happen to holoen

[Anonymous No.]

Damn I forgot how much this place shit on Council after debut.

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>>56562117
I wish we could go back to just after debut when the Omega hate was at full steam.

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>>56562171
i forgot how bad it was, especially with how many people went after fauna for her PL

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>>56546640
I thought Fauna had more subs than that.

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>>56560912
I'm surprised at how bad Irys' model was and how few people seemed to be talking about it. At first glance it was hard to believe she was Hololive, it looked like some terrible indie thing that never got any constructive feedback. I think even now her design is unappealing, but it's at least up to basic standards

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>>56546640
WE yes /we/ don't call them flopcil for nothing

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>>56546640
Well considering VOD views for all of advent are pretty much inline with what council was getting at this point after their debut and that the highest subbed in EN3 is because of their novelty i dunno if you can say they are
advent are performing any better

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>He spoke the truth

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>>56554581
Yes, did he stutter?

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>>56554170
Mumei only brings in higher ccv because she gets raided by at least one of advent every stream

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>>56563537
She gets high CCV because she is the cream of the crop brother!

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>>56562946
The fuck you're on about?
They're performing better and are growing at a faster rate.

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>>56560912
>shitrys
>great singer
lol

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>>56559357
>has no good counter arguments
>starts throwing out buzzwords like newfag and schizo
Using your debut buff properly means doing actually fun and engaging stuff to attract new viewers. Kronii did it with a lot of pandering and Fauna did it with fun game streams and funny commentary. Mumei looked like a scared puppy for the first month and I already explained what happened to Sana and Bae.

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>>56546640
MUH NUMBERSSSSSSS

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>>56567069
Did someone say numbers!

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>>56567743

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>>56546640
they main problem was to rely to much on their senpai. Myth was a bunch of lazy whores and council did not try their own stuff until it was too late.
not to mention the huge amounts of not working days

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>>56554170
Zatsu streams have been CCV debuffs for Mumei for about a year now. Her big draw is her singing. Her CCV was at its best when she was doing karaoke on a weekly basis, both in terms of averages and in terms of funneling some of that audience into her non-music content. If anything, the low frequency of streams makes the lows more noticeable, and that’s offset by the buzz generated by the recent concerts having a similar effect to the regular karaoke streams.

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>>56562691
At least that didn’t break containment much. Mumei had a furry spamming dox on her twitter tags and doxxers invading streams for two months.

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>>56553649
Debuf games + a shitton of overlap

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>>56554699
Gotta keep the most unhinged rrats, aren't you?

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>>56546640
yes
>rat
too much of a zoomer but has the skills to actually be there
>kronii
killed her career
>mumei
only inclining because of a fleshy with the same "name"
>fauna
has been "inclining" for over a year + having an uncontested timeslot and still barely beating out the rat

[Anonymous No.]

>>56546640
yeh

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>>56553351
Feels like an all out war

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>>56546640
>seething adventfag made this thread after seeing kronii mogging bijou despite streaming 5x less
adventfags sure are mad now that their numbers aren't working out for them huh

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>>56559635
If you don’t mind me asking, why are you an “Ex”? I’m loving her content

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>>56559534
Sana wouldn't have even graduated. Part of the reason she left was because she got hit the hardest from the sub culls by far and never managed to recover. If her sub count had been larger, she probably would have chosen to keep streaming instead of sticking to her art career.

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>>56572228
You really wish that TikTok rrat was true with how often you’re repeating it, aren’t you?

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>>56574146
Sana didn't caught on the majorities expectation. I know I didn't, was expecting a space beyonce. Got an aussie brownie instead. Physics talk was fun but anything else just puff up like smoke. She's just too boring I can't even put her as background noise.

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>CouncilRyS
Feel free to stop leeching your failed gen off my cute wife.

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>>56562171
Funny how Fauna turned around and became one of the strongest EN.

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>>56548305
Mumei is still insufferably boring and basic.

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>>56581972
Seething female hands typed this.

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>>56546640
it doesn't matter, i like all of them and will continue to watch and support all of them

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>>56581972
It appears her superiority has led to some controversy.

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>>56581972
She has a subtle kayfabe that she hasn't let up on, definitely not basic to keep that up for years

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>>56546640
They’re alright

[Anonymous No.]

Fauna is very cute.

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>>56582772
she's subtly acting as a common NPC in a starter town

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>>56554699
least schizophrenic /pol/nigger

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>>56560094
It's funny how HoloX and Advent have the same issue with their gen leader.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that FWMC applied and was rejected for Council

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>>56588063
Good. She would have disrupted the dynamic too much with her annoying kayfabe

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>>56588414

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>>56555026
>Mori's numbers crashing and burning
Someone needs to write a guide on what she does and then have it be titled 'How NOT to be a vtuber'

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>>56548305
Mumei isn't great at all. WTF are you on. Mumei got a huge boost in subscribers because she has a great singing voice. People love that shit. Took a while for people to notice, but that's literally it. She's very much the definition of a white basic bitch that you see in movies and T.V.

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>>56561135
She was only supposed to be the Vsinger. A voice box for their shitty songs spearheaded by Omega as his pet project. IRyS had other plans for herself though and used the Vsinger slot as a pathway to full fledged holo status. That's why she's had to fight for normal things like a casual outfit. They never intended for her to be treated like the others

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>>56546640
I blame Omegatranny, Ina, and Sana in that order.
Omega: power tripping lore fag tranny who approved these mid talents.
Ina: Enabled Omega and Sana.
Sana: Waste of a slot. Waste of time. Fuck Sana.

[Anonymous No.]

IRyS - Good singer but the model debuff was real
Sana - Nepohire that basically never streamed
Fauna - A lot of people find her boring (I liked her until THAT minecraft stream)
Kronii - Best model, best voice, vacant personality
Mumei - Her schedule is so painfully inconsistent. Sometimes only streaming once a week
Bae - Way too zoomer. To the point where i'm convinced she was hired at 18 or something.

Myth got the benefit of the doubt because it was new. Council didn't because the COVID buff was over and standards are higher. Hence why Advent is filled with actual experienced streamers this time and not literal whos from the bottom of the internet.

Just look at their streaming schedules. Already putting in the maximum effort. Half of council was on 3 streams a week by the end of the debut month. Tells you everything you need to know

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>>56554699
/pol/schizos are like cockroaches on this site.
No one wants them around and yet they keep appearing

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>>56554699
i'd say take your meds but i fear you're far past the point where they could help

[Anonymous No.]

Everyone is of course conveniently forgetting that council got their subs nuked multiple times.
That shit is horrible because sub growth is exponential.

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>>56593942
>Half of council was on 3 streams a week by the end of the debut month
No they weren't.
>Tells you everything you need to know
Yes, that you have a short memory.

[Anonymous No.]

Are people retarded? They got 50-70% of their subs wiped away right after their debut. Sana got it the worst at like 70%. That takes away someones motivation. This didn't happen to Advent. They didn't get culled

[Anonymous No.]

>>56594756
Enjoy living in your delusions and denial, my friend.
The truth hurts, but you'll reach the acceptance stage one day. ganbare!

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>>56594976
In the first month they streamed 18 - 26 times.
That's at minimum over 4 times a week and bae streamed over 6 times a week on average.
Maybe try making rrats that aren't easily disprovable next time.

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>>56593523
What goes on in an anon's brain that they just read the catalog and believe everything with absolutely zero proof?

[Anonymous No.]

All of Council is pretty good, would easily have 2 members at least in the 1m club by now if it wasn't for the cull. I really liked Sana too, sad she had to go.

[Anonymous No.]

Council isn't doing bad
And if they are, it's not that bad
And if it is, it's not their fault. (We are here)
And it is, they didn't mean to.
And if they did, you deserve it

[Anonymous No.]

>>56567853
>StarsEN

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>>56563040

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>>56593942
>Fauna - A lot of people find her boring
>Kronii - Best model, best voice,
Are there two fanbases that are more incompatible than those two? When it comes to voice especially it would be hard to find someone who likes them both.

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>>56595807
I like them both.
Fauna has a calming energy but it's not boring.
Kronii's voice is very good, though it seems like she needs time to warm up. It's kind of nasally at the start of streams.

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>>56560094
WWhy did La+ ruin holox

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>>56595417
What else do the voices in your head tell you?

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>>56596085

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>>56594879
If the subs were real and not just corporate whore shitters who were following because the account has a dorito on it they would have returned. Post-cull numbers are a better reflection of the actual talent than followers they gained solely because of their associated brand.

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>>56596094
>ITT: People blaming the lack of sub growth on culling and other things to say it's not their fault
>You: SCHIZO TAKE YOUR MEDS

[Anonymous No.]

My favorite vtuber has barely over 20k subscribers. This business costs pennies to manage, they'll be fine.

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>>56596471
There are plenty of casual viewers who heard about it and decided to sub and never even knew they got unsubbed.
Subs are part of exponential growth. Subs mean views and views mean the algorithm pushes you more which gives you more subs.
Having your subs culled in a significant way is horrible for a channel, casual viewers might not remember you at all.

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>>56596471
All the corporate whore shitters who are just following the blue dorito would have been guaranteed to resub.
It's the casual audience that got culled.

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>>56596471
Anon, normal people don’t autistically check their channel subscriptions because Susan randomly unsubscribing you is not something a reasonable person would expect. Not to mention the channels wouldn’t come up through Youtube’s search function at the time either.
>>56596475
Tell me how that relates to anything else in your post.

[Anonymous No.]

Calling CouncilRyS a failure is like calling jps and ids who hasn't reached a mil with more than 2years a failure also.

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>>56596864
Actual mouthbreather

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>>56597239
Are you saying it’s completely normal to expect Youtube to drop channels from your subscriptions for no reason, or are you claiming that that string of non sequiturs that the poster considers a “cope list” isn’t utterly nonsensical just because you inserted a talking point from the thread into the middle?

[Anonymous No.]

It's like some world wide event that caused absurd amounts of Youtuber sub growth due to massive amounts of people being home all the the time ended.
Along with the OMG NEW SHINY THING (EN Holos) that was Myth didn't exist anymore.

Really makes you think

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>>56562756
I think the new model is just really basic. Her 3D live showed that it is really sexy, but we don't get to see anything below the waist 99% of the time. We can debate all day about whether it is a good model in general, but I think we can agree that it is not a good vtubing model.

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>>56597506
Watch the schizo add that one to his list.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56595608
good times

[Anonymous No.]

>>56546640
Sub numbers don't mean much. I think it's more impressive to have a lot of viewers while having a low number of subs.

[Anonymous No.]

NUMBERS NUMBERS NUMBERS

[Anonymous No.]

>>56600653 -ME
MORE NUMBERS

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>>56600676
Someone stop the green woman.
>Ina
>Mori
What the hell.

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>>56595155
anonchama it's not even a rrat at this point, multiple girls talked about how dogshit management was, how it finally was changed and the links between Omega/Loserbait/Ao-chan aren't exactly subtle
The girls being forced to play FFIV off-stream was a total coincide you think?

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>>56546640
>Was CouncilRyS a big failure?
no

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>>56572228
>still barely beating out the rat
In terms of subs, yes. In terms of CCV it's not even close.

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>>56595807
I think Kronii has a lot of potential, but it's just all squandered by her personality, even her voice. When she actually puts in some effort she sounds great, but most of the time she just sounds like she just got out of bed. (And not in a good way.)

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>>56546640
Wasn't Council culled? They would be over 1 million. Just look at Mumei's fast sub growth

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>>56600755
It's a pretty silly metric since it depends heavily on overlap that particular day. If you have a great stream with 40k people but someone else has 41k, then that's a silver. If you have 6k on a lazy day with nobody else on the list competing, that's an easy gold.
It's just something akin to horse racing for /#/. Long-term trends tells you more about actual success.

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>>56554495
I would add Gura, otherwise it’s fine.

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>>56588414
Oh come on, imagine if they'd been Space and Time instead of a wasted slot and a wasted slut

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>>56604914
I would rather they be the dogs we have now. Fuck council.

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>>56604310
I remember in Fauna's birthday stream Kronii sounded like she just woke up on the floor after a week of chugging vodka. Actual mood killer.

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>>56565900
Even Nerissa praises her voice. She's good at singing, the trouble is her music production part is controlled by a bunch of out of touch suits which is why most of her songs fail to "blow up".

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>>56567743
>>56567853
I kek'd when noticed holostarsEN

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>>56567743
>>56567853
i guarantee you people care more about this shit than the cover employees who are paid to care about this shit do. it's kind of pathetic

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>>56553885
You don't even have to go that far, he's vague posting like a woman, that's enough to discredit anyone's attempt at a rrat.

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In terms of viewership and subscribers, they might be weak, but they make as much money as myth (except Kronii). They're a success.

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>>56587833
>It's funny how HoloX and Advent have the same issue with their gen leader.
What did he mean by this?

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>>56546640
Short answer: yes

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>>56590624
Now say that without crying you retarded seething faggot.

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>>56546640
Nobody cares you number faggot. Kill yourself

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>>56596085
There was a rm male yab nips sperg out and she went on a break for like a month, after that she hasnt had her earlier numbers

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>>56553411
>EN vsinger
>Only sings in nipponese
I just can't see how she haven't got to 5mil subs yet

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>>56554771
Mumei was raided by schizo antis with basically the name narrative that's being used on shiori now(annoyingly autistic, whore, is gonna have sex with stars and cuck her fans onstream etc) so that didn't help
She also has the most "basic" model in all of council, so it took awhile for nonschizos to catch up to her

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>>56562028
>Mumei had mumbled autisticly the entire time
So nothing changed really(she was moomim)

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>>56604914
>FWMC debut as more serious spacetime instead of annoying teletubies dogs
would watch the shit out of it

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>>56554771
Go have a look at the number of viewers on their streams on any multi pov collab and you will see Fauna has by far the most viewers since everyone chooses to watch her pov.

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FuwaMoco's growth is going to grind to a halt when Redditors realize that being le hecking wholesome 100 all the time gets quickly boring and JP bros become disheartened by all the English in streams, chat, and comments all the time.

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>>56609272
That mostly applies to FWMC Mornings that I already dropped. They are still fine while gaming because they have something to react too, and more opportunities for random banter between the two. Mornings are all scripted and sugary sweet.

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>>56553152
Kobo....

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>>56608316
At least Shiori’s schizos don’t breach containment further than some comments on Holotalk clips. For Mumei they were superchatting Kiara during their collab and invading her Slither.io stream.