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56133849 No.56133849 [Reply] [Original]

If hololive members don't start graduating how are they supposed to keep the balance? there's too many now and in time they are going to have nijisanji numbers. Something needs to change.

>> No.56133902

Management keeps the balance.

>> No.56133946

they get voted out by the fans

>> No.56133996

>>56133849
Probably with bigger gaps between new gens

>> No.56134054

>>56133849
Okayu will eat them

>> No.56134065

They duel to the death.

>> No.56134073
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>> No.56134155

Hololiver battle royale

>> No.56134298

>>56133849
graduate all holos under 2k ccv

>> No.56134335

The good thing about Hololive is that they don't force them out, the viewers do, also they get a paycheck every month unlike Nijisanji so graduations are less likely.

>> No.56134368

Who is the least popular JP Holo?
Which JP holo has done the least music

>> No.56134494

>>56133849
Cover announces that every pre-2022 Holomem under a million subs is getting graduated by the end of 2023.
Who does the community save in time?

>> No.56134500

>>56133849
They are nowhere near nijisanji numbers. They currently have over 200 members, hololive, not including the stars, has 69. Including them, 91.

>> No.56134561

>>56134368
roboco

>> No.56134584

>>56134368
Least popular Roboco and least music is Choco or Luna

>>56134335
Nijis get a paycheck as well his point was reaching over 100 might push some to low 3 view which is the actual issue

>> No.56134637

>>56134584
>Nijis get a paycheck
lol
lmao even

>> No.56134640
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>>56133849
They would have to graduate the entire company and then some to catch up to nijisanji

>> No.56134691

>>56133849
Hololive has only had one new gen in the past three years. They have no interest in expanding their line-up. They also just don't bother go into the formality of a graduation so they can dust-off the cobwebs a couple times a year for big events. Plenty of members are effectively graduated already.

>> No.56134701

>>56133849
A lot of gen 0-3 girls (and some gen 4s+ really) don't stream much so don't need as much attention honestly.

Like really do you think Ayame needs as many resources from Cover staff now as she did in like 2019, the one year she actually streamed consistently? Does a girl who streams once every month or two have a lot to talk about with the actual content, putting on weekly charades planning out her non-existent schedules and content? Her manager likely has at least one (or more) other girls who actually need attention more. Same for Haachama, do you think her manager is busy with her right now? Shion, Aqua etc? Those girls can come in to record for songs or work on merch or something but that can be done behind the scenes at their and Cover's convenience vs the pressure of live performance.

So the actual workload for whoever are not the dudes doing merch, song covers etc must soften up over time naturally because Cover isn't forcing its girls to mandatory hours once they're settled in and established.

>> No.56134739

>>56134073
Who is the Randy Savage of Hololive?

>> No.56134758

>>56133849
Nijisanji numbers?? Bro dem ninjis be debuting a new wave every month

>> No.56134837

>>56133946
That would be cool if every year preferably Christmas Hololive hosts a Survivor type voting out system that involves all Hololive members choosing who they want graduated

>> No.56134944

>>56134561
>>56134584
No 0th gen is unpopular. Lui has the least subs

>> No.56134981

i always refer to stuff like pro wrestling when it comes to this.

the older veterans have done their share of paving the way, so now whenever they do show up they're revered as a novelty and respected as people who have "done it all before". there's no need to completely write them off or retire them because they have practically earned the right to do less by being known and proven to be very reliable.

>> No.56135126

Most probably wont bring more gens anymore until some start to graduate. So dont hold your breath waiting for EN4 thats not coming anythime soon in the future

>> No.56135252

>>56134494
Flare

>> No.56135260

>>56134837
graduated to harsh, maybe move to B league

>> No.56135492

>>56135126
ID needs another gen and will probably get it soon. The branches are separate. EN probably will need another gen as well but you have to let the old one settle in so it'll be a while even if they need it sooner. This one could end up crashing and burning like the last 2 but for now things are fine.

>> No.56135583

>>56134494
Fauna

>> No.56135634

>>56134837
Better yet, Hunger Games Hololive Edition where the 10 or so members with the worst CCV have to fight to the death to keep their jobs and they can't quit in order to opt out.

>> No.56135647

>>56134944
You clearly don't know what popularity is, the least popular is not the most disliked. They are just the least popular. Roboco is so unpopular she even gets forgotten in 0th Gen stuff. Mel and Aki aren't popular either. Choco and Lui aren't popular but together but they host one of the more popular programs even if that popularity comes from the guests.

>> No.56135714

>>56135647
I never said the least popular is the most disliked but how can you say roboco is less popular than lui?

>> No.56135735

Just have one of them collab with homos. Instant exodus of viewers.

>> No.56135850

>>56135714
There's no metric by which Roboco is more popular.

>> No.56135928

>>56135850
Again how? There are several

>> No.56135990

HOW BAD WOUKD A HOLILIVE DEBUT NEED TO GO FOR THEIR SUB COUNT TO GO DOWN FROM PREDEBUT AND THEIR CCV TO BOTTOM OUT IMMEDIATELY WITHOUT IT BEING BAD OR YABE ENOUFH TO GRADUATE

>> No.56136111
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>>56133849

>> No.56136122

>>56135928
Name one.

>> No.56136174

>>56134739
Miko

>> No.56136202

>>56135928
>Vods, music, ccv
The only metric she’s ahead in is subs which is because she’s existed longer

>> No.56136702

>>56133946
Evidently wrong. The fans get attached to their virtual friends and forget vtubing is supposed to be entertainment. This keeps kronii, ina, ame, kiara, the braphog, fauna, and mumei in business.

>> No.56138730

>>56134691
>Hololive has only had one new gen in the past three years
Huh?

>> No.56138986

>>56138730
HoloX debuted in 2021, which should be 2 years

>> No.56139045

>>56135126
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok6ncJ2JEGY
They're specifically looking for female HoloEN talents

>> No.56139466

>>56138986
ID2 and ID3 as well as UPROAR! were all in the last 2 years

>> No.56139527

>>56139045
I can already imagine which EN1,2,3 members will become obsolete.. unless EN4 turns out to be all boring.

>> No.56139918

by expanding management, as they've been doing
they debuted a total of 8 girls in the past two years, while their revenue exploded and their behind the sceen staff almost doubled

plus as >>56134691 said, a lot of the older talents have drastically reduced streaming hours to focus on offstream projects and reappear occasionally for big events, which is perfectly fine for Cover since they don't rely much on streaming revenue anymore
having new girls that shoulder the weight of daily streaming is necessary if you don't want your talents to burn out horribly, and close to debut it's necessary to stream a lot to build a solid fanbase which will later support them even when they move away from streaming

>> No.56139987

>>56139466
holostars isnt hololive

>> No.56140369

>>56134640
>the pic
Literal school graduation book

>> No.56141121

>Far away future
>Hololive finally reaches 150 vtubers
>Nijisanji is at 30000

>> No.56141206

>>56133849
Elections

>> No.56142294

>>56133849
>If hololive members don't start graduating how are they supposed to keep the balance?
Use different platmorms

>> No.56142302

interesting, how many members does nijisanji have?

>> No.56142593

>>56139466
ID2 debuted in the year 2020 amigo

>> No.56142628

>>56134640
Goddamn

>> No.56142714

>>56134701
Pretty much this. Some girls stop streaming after they raked in the money. Cover needs to introduce a new gen because of this at least once every two years. JP actually needs one because there's only a handful of jp holos doing morning and night streams these days and there's a lot of dead air. There used to be a lot of streams in those timeslots.

>> No.56142831

>>56142714
>stopped streaming after they raked in the money
Most of the barely streaming members are nowhere near the high moneymakers of the brand. It's lot of Gen 0-2, people with health issues and someone like Laplus who quit before she even secured the bag. The members who never stream include a bunch of hags or even a full-time married OL who was doing Hololive on the side.

>> No.56142896

>>56142714
>They need to acce-
No they dont. Its why they are #1 and arent a black company. Go back

>> No.56143059

>>56133849
Hololive has 80 active members
Nijisanji has 182
Hololive gets around 13 new members per year (5 JP, 5 EN and 3 ID, homos don't get in as frequently), therefore, to get niji's same number of current members.... we need to wait around 7-8 years given that we get those 13 new members each year.

>> No.56143094

>>56143059
Ah, and that's without taking some graduations every once in a while into account.

>> No.56143314

>>56134640
Wait it's over 100 graduations now? I'm counting 111 in that picture, holy grim

>> No.56144185

i get em pregant

>> No.56145308

Another W for holochads

>> No.56146629

>>56135647
At this point Gen1 in its entirety is unpopular, especially if you count Fubuki as being more part of Gamers Gen. Mel and Aki never took off and Matsuri and Haachama crashed from what popularity they had before 2022.

>>56133849
Been getting mixed signals from Mel of late with her RM, it may be awhile since she probably wants to get 1 million subs and have her own live but once she has done both she may be graduating.

>> No.56148600

>>56133849
if holo ever get's the same number of members as niji is because they quit or fired most of their slaves

>> No.56148722
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>>56133849
It's simple: Nijisanji needs to die. Hololive debuting new members may hurt their old ones but they'll also sap bits from the general vtuber sphere which includes Nijisanji. And if Nijisanji collapses either due to Riku selling out, more of the old guard leaving, diminishing returns for new waves, corruption/malpractices being exposed, etc. then a ton of those fans will flock to the next biggest company.

>> No.56148794

>>56146629
So Mel has three more years left in her you're saying? That's more than I expected to be honest. I hope she has fun with it and does more new things like the Momosuzu-ke arc.

>> No.56148805

>>56133946
Fans need to kill each other in the purge to keep the balance

>> No.56148850

>>56148722
No thanks. Let the nijisanji be the containment chamber for the chinese. Absolutely nobody wants them in their fanbase

>> No.56150193

>>56139466
HoloJP already has 35 members, so it's fine to slow down while they expand on the other side branches for now. JP7 will come eventually, but there's no harm in releasing EN4 and first before JP7

>> No.56150868

>>56148722
Isn't there a bit too much bad blood amongst a notable segment of the nijisanji fanbase? I could see some coming over but I could see just as many refusing to spite Hololive one last time and going to other JP vtuber companies.

>> No.56150962

Doesn't AKB48 have something like 70+ members?

If they can have this many members, despite being kinda irrelevant, then hololive can have too.

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>>56133849
Companies view this problem differently.
>There are already many vtubers who make money
>Let's take those vtubers and make them make money for us
Hololive are just taking existing vtubers and making them theirs, giving them more visibility. Those vtubers would always exist either way.
Does it cut into the profit of their existing talents? Yes, but not necessarily. Both Gura and Bijou are still streaming to 5view numbers at the same timeslot, meaning Gura isn't losing any big numbers. She is in fact, boosted a lot by streaming around this debut time.
Are the existing talents going to stay relevant forever therefore maintaining their profits without a new gen? No. Just rewind back this past year on how people are tired of HoloEN being stale and Gura not streaming.
Now HoloAdvent debuts and suddenly Gura starts streaming again; and Kiara and Calliope are going on a collab binge with Advent. Money is rolling in for everyone. Once the Advent-JP collabs start, old decrepit bottom feeder Holomems would see some money their way once in a while. This is better than being left to rot as they were.

Now I will space for emphasis. Hololive has better training for their candidates than Nijisanji. Sana was part of the "latest" gen and quit before her one year anniversary, meaning EN legitimately lost one VTuber/channel and now we're getting FOUR channels instead of the usual five. We have only gained 3 new channels in two fucking years and you faggots are concernfagging. Crikey!

>> No.56151942

the beauty of capitalism is that the shareholders must be appeased no matter the cost, more growth more expansion and more fatass vtubers until we've run this thing into the dirt and die

>> No.56152060

>>56134584
Luna electone streams count as music and they're kino. I will not hear this slander.

>> No.56152146

>>56135990
Sana

>> No.56152271

>>56141121
>Nijisanji is at 30000
Nijisanji's vtubers have all become part of Riku's private army.

>> No.56152577

>>56151942
>Cover Shareholder Meeting
>Shareholder: "Pay the talents less so we can have more money. Nijisanji makes more profits by doing this."
>Yagoo: "No."

>Anycolor Shareholder Meeting
>Shareholder: "Why are so many talents graduating"
>Riku: "Because they're ungrateful."

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