Kick now accepting PayPal

[Anonymous No.]

Any likelihood we will get more chuubas make the jump considering the lack of PayPal support was a big killer? Twitch is way too oversaturated to get success.
Not shilling for Kick by the way. I'm more curious to see if it can be a viable platform for chuubas and maybe down the line a Kick-exclusive company could happen.

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>>56128335
>Streamers using Paypal in 2023

[Anonymous No.]

There are already vtubers on kick. Though no kick-exclusive company yet as far as I've seen.

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>>56128450
Viewers use it for subs and donations.

[Anonymous No.]

I thought everyone on twitch used streamlabs/bits because of how many streamers were getting raped with chargeback fines from troll donations, did people really want paypal that badly?

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>>56128335
>PayPal in 2023
>Kick-exclusive company

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>>56128335
Moist just announced the end of his contract with twitch. A clear sign for others to leave that sinking ship. so whether kick supports paypal or not, there'll be people who's gonna transfer anyway

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>>56128335
no serious streamer uses paypal cause they're eager to screw them over some wrongful refund issues

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>>56129167
lol
critical is more relevant on twitch as for other streamers to watch his yt videos than him as a twitch streamer

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>>56128335
nonny the only people making the "big jump" are dumbasses normie-bait streamers who got a multi-million dollar contract from Kick. No one is actually willingly going there without 3+ million USD lmao

[Anonymous No.]

paypal has blocked "problematic" creators before, wouldnt be surprised if they did it for kick!

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>>56129167
mate I think you are forgetting the actual second option after twitch? are you stupid?

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>>56128450
>>56128644
What's wrong with Paypal? Please spoonfeed this retard NEET

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>>56131371
You can get donators charging you back and you have to pay a fee, so you can stream and have to pay money if someone wants to mess with you.

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>>56131371
PayPal can randomly just decide to lock your account and you can't do shit against it, they also ban people who make "problematic content". Lots of /uoh/ chuubas have had to deal with that.

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck is Kick

[Anonymous No.]

I don't think Kick is a great platform, but if it works for more than 2 years, Kick will succeed.
The average age of Twitch streamers is probably already over 35?

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>>56131960
>The average age of Twitch streamers is probably already over 35?
No lol, the two biggest categories are just chatting and valorant. just chatting is filled with Portuguese people and whores, and Valorant is the #1 zoomer game

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>>56128516
>streamers use it to go bankrupt from chargebacks

besides, why would anyone want to stream for free on kick, the site is down like most of the week anyways...

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forsen

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>>56128335
When you donate with PayPal, the streamer get all you information. Get ready for a menhera to dox her fans

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>>56134147
If your stupid enough to donate with your real info you deserve to be doxxed

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>>56130984
People banned from everywhere else are

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>>56131371
say any sort of 'misinformation' and they can fine you up to $2500

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>>56131776
Her general is /pyon/

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>>56131371
Paypal is an unregulated financial institution that has somehow managed to avoid the legal requirements of banks since it was founded

It can and has fucked over many people who thought they were smarter than you, and those people have no recourse because "it isn't a bank"

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>>56128335
I watch Comdost there. I'm sure there are others there too.

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>>56139479
She's still around?

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>>56128335
What the fuck is a kick?

[Anonymous No.]

can't streamers just use shit like streamelements/streamlabs if they want paypal donations?

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>>56142010
Imagine if kiwifarms made twitch

[Anonymous No.]

Only way I see Kick being viable is that

1: Content creators actually make content and not horny bait

2: The Vtuber selection on Kick stays below 300 streamers with the Vtuber tag

3: A closer knit community with channel restricted yet many custom Emotes + Gifs which can't be used on other streamer channels. Only the one you subbed on.

4: Kick implements their Content Creator Program to those they believe are a good brand with their content and niche that attracts a stable traffic onto their website.

That is all. For the most part Kick is very very underwhelming with lack of a API to customize your streams with no way for viewers to actually *interact* aside from a KickBot to say hurray for Subscribing! It is a very very straight forward version of Trovo that doesn't have all that *Gamba Spam* that Trovo pushes on all its streamers.

[Anonymous No.]

Mate, Kick is dead as soon as all those contracts expire. A much bigger company did the same exact thing not that long ago and failed monumentally.

[Anonymous No.]

Kick payout is either Same Day Etherium or Bitcoin. Processed $ is 2 Weeks after subscription for Stripe processing. Namely Stripe takes 5%. Streamers get the rest of the 95% of the Sub. So namely per 1 sub its $4.45 on average or so. Until Kick implements a Ad system which would passively garner revenue across VoDs and Live Stream at a higher rate than Twitch offers for most of its affiliates.

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>>56142721
Doesn't matter if the site dies or stays alive.
You can Simult-cast on Kick with Rumble - Tiktok - Trovo - Youtube - Embed on custom website and pretty much get your streams out there to more eyeballs then relying on Twitch shitty discovery system and their shitty ass *Twitch Only* streams. Its all about having multiple buckets. Not one and done.

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>>56128335
Paypal is cancer.

[Anonymous No.]

Stripe = Federally insured. Whatever happens with money that is on that account is insured by the Federal Government and FTC.

Paypal = Non-regulated Money Bank system that isn't insured by the FTC and Federal Government. Whatever money you lose from loss of access to the account, chargebacks or frozen account. The FTC/FG WILL not help you with that issue. Also, Paypal customer service is attrocious for content creators, even if you follow the whole *Tip VS Donation* issue. The Chargebacks are often for *Item purchases* and the troll will try whatever it takes to make it so that you give them back the money + more out of your wallet because of such.

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>>56142837
Twitch recommends me literal 2view nobodies all the time. I don't think it's bad for discoverability.

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>>56142992
Compared to a wider net you would be having if you used the Sora Yuki Multi-RTMP OBS plug-in it pales in comparison. You have to mind that the traffic from multiple streams coming from one source would drive up much more interest into your content than it would be on Twitch which is either Call-2-Arms from external Social media websites X + Discord + Tiktok or other people talking about your streamings and bringing other people along.

Honestly Twitch can die for all I care. They don't care about their affiliates at all.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm getting flashbacks to Blip.TV - big promises of creator freedom and revenue over YouTube, but only ever hosted the Nostalgia Critic, then got bought out and died.

[Anonymous No.]

Alright, say if you the viewer were to subscribe onto a Twitch Streamer.
The cut is usually 70+% to Twitch and 25% to Streamer. Twitch makes about over $3.50 per subscription tier 1. Streamer makes about $1.50, Depending on other factors and how active your community is. The rate is changed depending on region and traffic and if you allow that horrible 3 Min ads for 55% cut that they promote.

Obviously, using Stripe as a Processor instead of Kick makes it so that Kick doesn't do all that nasty work of regulation and shit. Stripe does all of that.
The only boon Twitch has for its emotes from subscriptions and bits is that they can be used elsewhere as long as you are subscribed.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyways. I'm outsies. Do what you will. Stream on whatever platform you feel most comfy with. Remember, Twitch Retricts. Youtube/Kick/Trovo/Rumble/Tiktok/X/embedding on Custom websites all allow restreaming.

Hop to it.