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This is Graw Grewa

>> No.56019617

>>56019539
rwar rwura

>> No.56019674
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>>56019539

>> No.56019761

>>56019539
Reminds me of blue hair anime elf girl animation on newgrounds almost 2 decades ago

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>>56019539

>> No.56020452

>>56019539
>>56020332
Imagine wasting so much time making 3D art that looks so fucking bad

>> No.56020694
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56020694

>>56020452
It's called "style"

>> No.56020716

If you can't appreciate such grandiose sophisticated art, you are indubitably a mere filthy poor peasant.

>> No.56020805

>>56019539
>>56020332
>>56020694
is this the so called "tumblr style"?

>> No.56020887

>>56020694
It's called "style where the faces look like utter dogshit"

>> No.56021037

>>56020805
>is this the so called "tumblr style"?
Yes. You know when trannies draw "improved" versions of anime? This is the 3D version of that.

>> No.56021292
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>>56019539
I think this artstyle looks nice and the person who made this animation obviously put a ton of passion and hard work into it.

>> No.56021405

>>56021292
SIT DOWN ANON!
(He's right actually)

>> No.56021495

>>56021292
Yeah, I'm in the "fuck you, I liked it" camp.

>> No.56021596

>>56021292
based

>> No.56021617

>>56020452
western artists are obsessed with making everything as ugly as possible for some reason

>> No.56021667
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56021667

>>56019539
I like it. It reminds me of TBOI's claymation promo videos.

>> No.56022252

>>56019539
I liked it but I'll never understand why EVERY western artist wants to do "anime but different"

>> No.56022426

>>56021292
Anon this is a bait thread

>> No.56022505

>>56022252
Because the anime style is highly disrespected in western art schools for being too samey and there is a heavy emphasis on developing a "unique style".

>> No.56023215

>>56021292
I do too

>> No.56023308

>>56021292
I'm Spartacus !

>> No.56023315

>>56021292
Based

>> No.56024191

>>56021292
the artstyle sucks but the animation is great for stop motion

>> No.56026293

>>56021292
Based!

>> No.56026474

>>56019674
Gura won the argument.

>> No.56027419

>>56020694
The ina model looks pretty cute though

>> No.56028654

Making everything looks flawlessly beautiful is kitschy. I'm sorry that your bug-like conformist artistic sensibilities are offended when challenged even in the slightest by someone who wants to try something different.

>> No.56029207 [DELETED] 

>>56020694
What's the prompt for this image?

>> No.56030947

>>56020452
>bad
SOVL

>> No.56031110

>>56028654
The opposite is true too, a lot of western cartoons and shit like that tries too hard to make things ugly

>> No.56037793

>>56021292
Middle-ground Guy here.
I was put off a bit but it wasn't bad enough where I couldn't like the animation.

>> No.56037900

>>56019539
La creatura definitiva...
>>56020694
It looks bad, but at least it's not Calarts levels of bad.

>> No.56038046

>>56021292
based. especially ina >>56020694 looks really cute, i think people are just too scared of non-anime styled myth characters.

>> No.56038089

>>56020694
This one looks decent because the mouth is covered.

>> No.56038731

>>56037900
I don't know if bad is the wrong word. It's not "bad" because whatever this is is intentional. It's "technically" good. It just seems off. I think they mixed the stop-motion animation with the 3D and didn't mix it well.
6/10 room for improvement.

>> No.56040047

>>56027419
Because it only shows the eyes. In the Ame and Gura images posted the eyes are decent too. Move Ina's books and your opinion would change

>> No.56040212

>>56040047
I think the others look cute too, so you're wrong. But I think based on the eyes and my own bias that the Ina model is particularly cute.

>> No.56040655

I think the style matches the story the animator is telling. It's not an uwu story so having cute designs wouldn't have the same reach as having them be mildly uncanny.
Look at Sylvain Chomet, none of his character designs are appealing by weeb standards, but they really match the story he's telling.

>> No.56040906

>>56040212
I mean, what you "think" is just factually incorrect

>> No.56041042

>>56040906
Totally incoherent statement semantically and overall weak bait. Try again.

>> No.56041118

>>56020332
>red noses
Tumblr and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

>> No.56041308

>>56028654
>Making everything looks flawlessly beautiful is kitschy
Its the fucking opposite of that. Learn your words. Everyone in western art is conforming to intentionally-kitschy designs because they are terrified of raw beauty.

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>>56041118
just wait until this nigga finds out about classical painting!

>> No.56041554

>>56041308
You're right, the word I was looking for was insipid, or trite maybe. Just re-read the post and pretend I said either of those. Thanks :]

>> No.56042379

>>56041554
I don't think there's any lack of exciting or spicy things happening in the real world right now. I'm pretty okay with something that's a little insipid, actually.

>> No.56043586

>>56021292
No, I'm Spartacus

>> No.56047774

>>56019539
I like it but I don't understand why her skin is so blue. I also don't know why none of the Hologirls talked about Detective Diaries when they did talk about Myths Bad Ending.

>> No.56052497

>>56041426
You want to see something you can't unsee?
Forehead yellow, cheeks/nose red, chin lips blue.
All classical paintings are like this.

>> No.56054866

>>56021292
based anon, i am spartacus

>> No.56055108

>>56021292
This anon is right, the art style isn't ugly, it's just because of the art style of vtubers you expect something anime but the style in this animation fits the atmosphere. Talking of which, I really love sound design and lighting, it intensifies the emotions s lot.

>> No.56055220

This idea of Ame and Ina being old friends, older than her meeting the rest of Myth, was this something that was talked about on stream as lore? Seems familiar to me.

>> No.56055409 [DELETED] 

>>56021292
The art style of the pic you posted is completely different from the shitty tumblr art style of those unbelievably shitty 3D renders. Hololive done in Norman Rockwell style would be amazing but those Gollum looking abominations aren't it.

>>56021405
>>56021495
>>56021596
>>56023215
>>56023315
>>56026293
>>56038046
>>56055108
I can't tell if you're friends of the artist whiteknighting for him or the artist himself but you can't gaslight people into thinking that hideous art looks good no matter how hard you try.

>> No.56055508

>>56055409
Your mistake is thinking your opinion matters anon.

>> No.56055518

>>56041426
>comparing tumblr art to classical paintings
Found the tumblrina

>> No.56055593

>>56055409
>I don't like it therefore it's hideous
doesn't work like that lil man

>> No.56055698

>>56019539
Judging by this picture alone it's going to be some edgy muhdepressioncrawlinginmyskin wankfest isn't it.

>> No.56055721 [DELETED] 

>>56055409
>NOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO HATE IT BECAUSE... BECAUSE YOU JUST HAVE TO OKAY!!!!

>> No.56055752

>>56055508
Your mistake is thinking people like that horrible art. Nobody likes it outside of a small circlejerk of cancerous tumblr freaks. Which is why it's unpopular as fuck and Hololive fans shun it.

>> No.56055817

>>56055752
>Nobody likes it
Yeah, 80k+ people on Twitter liking the tweet of the Ina reveal is "nobody."

>> No.56055893

>>56055409
The art was fine. Could be better but was pretty good. Agree to disagree. Or don't and cry. Either way you're done.

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>>56055593
>>56055721
Oh nyo looks like I touched a nerve by pointing out how god awful ugly that art is and have incurred the wrath of the gay tumblrinas SOMEBODY SAVE ME KEK

>> No.56056028

>>56055926
>tumblrinas
Go back.

>> No.56056123

You're free to like it but the art does look like dogshit, and the "plot" has nothing to do with Hololive.
Shame because the animation style is ambitious.

>> No.56056214

>>56056123
>the "plot" has nothing to do with Hololive.
Nigga Myth has absolutely zero "plot" to begin with. It's just "hehe detective and some wacky creatures!!!!"
Also you're unironically a faggot if you care about the shitty management decided cringe chuuni lore.

>> No.56056265

>>56056123
Ironically, the plot is more of a Hololive arc than the current streams.

>> No.56056311

>>56020332
Damn that's disgusting

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>>56055893
>The art was fine
I'm sorry your art sucks but maybe you should try developing a more aesthetic style instead of crying about it
>Either way you're done
Nah, you're done

>>56055817
>Yeah, 80k+ people on Twitter liking the tweet of the Ina reveal is "nobody."
Correct. These renders virtually never get posted on /vt/ or anywhere else because they're ugly art with no organic popularity. I'm sure tumblr trannies who know jack shit about Hololive like them very much but they're considered hideous as fuck within the actual Hololive fanbase which is why nobody talks about them. Also the only reason Ina looks good is because her ghastly hotdog-nosed mutant face is hidden behind books.

>> No.56056494

>>56056214
>>56056265
Sorry, but cringy lore shit is fucking terrible and I've got no idea why Western fans are obsessed with it (I assume that they "consume" garbage media).

>> No.56056551

>>56056383
Ah, you're allowed to validate others art because you're an artist, right? I mean, that's why you attacked someone else's artistic ability.

Post art. Can't wait.
>inb4 AI

>> No.56056587

>>56056551
>>inb4 AI
>inb4 he uses AI and says that real artists are totally doomed and dying, just wait another month

>> No.56056624

>>56056383
>These renders virtually never get posted on /vt/ or anywhere else because they're ugly art with no organic popularity.
>t. nothing exists outsize my schizophrenic bubble chamber

>> No.56056663

>>56056383
>These renders virtually never get posted on /vt/
Are you seriously saying /vt/ is the pinnacle of attention and reputability? Really?

>> No.56056693

>>56056383
post art
no balls if you don't pussy
show us what good art is, faggot

>> No.56056958

GOT REAL QUIET IN HERE ALL THE SUDDEN.

>> No.56056989
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56056989

>>56056551
>Ah, you're allowed to validate others art because you're an artist, right?
I'm allowed to say that art looks like shit because it objectively looks like shit and anybody who thinks it's good has something wrong with their brain. The artist, I don't know his name so I'll just call him Captain Retard, is obviously trying to combine generic tumblr cancer with Pixar and the result is horrible trash. And it's very sad that he spent so much time and effort to make such hideous 3D. This should be a lesson to all artists. Don't commit to a huge art project if your art style is fundamentally terrible. Git gud at art and THEN take on a huge project. Don't end up like Captain Retard.

>> No.56057049

>>56056989
>didn't post art
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Bruh, just admit you're shit and your opinion is worthless.

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>>56056624
>t. nothing exists outsize my schizophrenic bubble chamber
Okay anon, so where are these shitty renders popular? Reddit? Tumblr? Anywhere?

>>56056693
>show us what good art is
Pic related and relevant.

>> No.56057273

>>56056551
>>56056693
>>56056958
>>56057049
Holy reddit.

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56057280

>>56057049
nta but unironically here is my art and this is better

>> No.56057319

>>56057049
>you're shit and your opinion is worthless
Nice projection little bro

>> No.56057457

>>56041426
both look like shit

>> No.56057474

>>56056551
>have to be an artist to form criticism
I think you have a case of ummm
being a stupid nigger tourist.
>AI weh wehh
Very happy AI is replacing delusional cucks like you who seethe at a prompt being able to create something more aesthetically pleasing. Meanwhile all the praised artists continue to create banger after banger for fans to genuinely admire.

>> No.56057818

>>56057280
sovl.......

>> No.56059551

>>56020694
western

>> No.56059943

>>56056989
Genuinely what's wrong with the art style of the short?

>> No.56059987

No one here can explain why the art is had other than " I think it looks bad", anime set style mind broken millions of people into thinking any set style that doesn't have bug eyes and barely any distinct facial features is bad.

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>>56021292
You dropped this, King.

>> No.56060043

>>56056693
post yours

>> No.56060093

>>56059943
It's extraordinarily ugly. Which is a pretty bad problem for an art style to have.

>> No.56060132

>>56060093
Why it's ugly? I think it looks good, rough here and there but for the most part it's unique and appealing, remind of Tom Burton

>> No.56060152

>>56059987
its unattractive to the human eye if you weren't born with a genetic dysfunction you fucking mongoloid.

>> No.56060197

>>56020694
You just know there's a big red squidward nose under those books.

>> No.56060216

TUMBLR
NOSE

>> No.56060246

>>56055409
>The art style of the pic you posted
The pic was meant to be used as a reaction image, not as an example of what that anon thinks OP's image resembles or tries to imitate.

>> No.56060301

>>56060197
Hot. Ina squid noseussy

>> No.56060412

>>56060216
Red noses been s thing in art for centuries dumbass

>> No.56060620

>>56059987
No one here can explain why shit stinks other than "I think it smells bad". It's obvious.
I'm sure there's tons of technical reasons, but I don't care about that. I looked at it and it was unpleasant to look at. I like a lot of western art and art styles too, so you can forget about that cope. I don't like art that is ugly on purpose.

>> No.56061110

>>56019539
>>56020332
>>56020694
I haven't seen this, is it just 3D or is it legit stop-motion animation?

>> No.56061159

>>56061110
3D. Stop motion would be impossible with this level of detail without significant post production

>> No.56061162

>>56061110
3( animation imitating stop motion, it just has good lighting to make them look like real life models.

>> No.56061196

>>56061159
I mean it's possible if you're fucking Phil Tippett, but sadly only 1 of him exists in the world and he went legitimately fucking insane finishing Mad God
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jas8OABbn0Y

>> No.56061273

>>56019539
ew. why even release this

>> No.56061290

>>56061273
Because it's pretty good

>> No.56061314

>>56019539
I cannot coom to this version of her so I hate it

>> No.56061351

>>56061196
Cool stuff

>> No.56061395

>>56061110
Comparing this to stop motion is an insult, stop motion actually has inbetween frames. This animation style is like looking at a slide-show. I will never get all the praise. At least the animated movies these days that do the low framerate thing still try to evoke the illusion of movement, which is the whole point of animation.

>> No.56061449

>>56061351
There's basically only 2 schools of stop-motion in animation that came out of Hollywood.
The first is the biggest and it was everyone inspired by The Nightmare Before Christmas and all of the revolutionary filming techniques that film came up with.
The other school is Phil Tippett and it basically just comprises of himself, and it stems from his work in the 80s doing all the stop-motion in the first 2 Robocop films.

>> No.56061488

>>56061395
Why are we holding fan animations to the same standard as hollywood productions with multi million dollar budgets?

>> No.56061490

Sick of you faggots whining about muh art style. The actual sad thing here is that Cover would never fund such a project themselves. Imagine a well thought out hour long short film based on the original Myth lore (ie Ame is a normal detective protagonist not a retarded time lord) like this series of shorts is going for with VA work from the actual girls. Would have been awesome, but nope, never getting that.

>> No.56061514

>>56060412
TUMBLR
NOSE

>> No.56061530

>>56061490
This. Fans put out better work than the actual company

>> No.56061536

>>56061395
What do you think of the shorts that Sward does? It's very low-framerate and jerky in its movement but I think it's supposed to be by design.

>> No.56061654

>>56061536
A much better execution of the stop motion effect because it has proper movement.

>> No.56061724

>>56061490
>The actual sad thing here is that Cover would never fund such a project themselves
No one would fund a project that looks this bad. That's why Cover and individual Holos never commission this guy to do hideous 3D tumblr beast animations for them.

>> No.56061802

>>56061724
This is a million times better than that horrid hololive mv with the 3d girls stripping and lying on a bed together with the uncanny lip flaps and lazy poses and models. That was an official hololive MV. Still scarred by the memory of it to this day

>> No.56061820

>>56061490
I mean you aren't wrong there.
Seeing short OVAs based on their group lores would be great.
Look at all the other short animations they did through the years, including some stuff to hype up that shit game, and other projects.

I still hate the style of this animation immensely, purely because of the faces.
I place this right up there with cancerous moe-style and Calarts garbage that has taken over their respective industries.

>> No.56062045

>>56019539
>what if Wes Anderson did not have a pedophile dad that gave him his start in hollywood and instead made fan films of vtubas instead

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>>56061802
>This is a million times better than that horrid hololive mv with the 3d girls stripping and lying on a bed together with the uncanny lip flaps and lazy poses and models.
Holy kek you really are a tumblrina. That MV was based as fuck and the 3D in it was a million times better than the tumblr trash you're peddling. You're embarrassing yourself, kid. Go to bed.

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56062492

>>56062307
>cherrypicking the one high quality model (that still looks like generic PlayStation shit mind you) instead of all the rest of the cheap copy paste 3D models that made up 99% of the nba all while screaming about tumblerinas like its 2012

>> No.56062561

>>56062307
Left is a better character design

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>>56019539
>>56020332
It look shit.
Some thing is not meant to be 3D. Even 3D anime model try to use render and shader that make them look 2D in 3D spaces.
This would look a lot better on flat 2D style than realistic 3D render.

>> No.56062913

I got linked to it once, saw the faces and ran away.

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>>56062492
>tumblrina getting mad
You don't like the comparison because it completely humiliates your ugly tumblr art. I understand. Maybe this comparison will be more to your liking? Wait, it humiliates your ugly tumblr art even harder. Sorry tranny, my bad!

>> No.56063049

>>56062307
>He genuinely thinks that looks good
>based as fuck

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>>56062979

>> No.56063229

>>56022505
Which is always funny because they always trend towards the same garbage looking style with shitty looking noses as in this case.
They are usually about as unique as different color palettes in CalArts / moe-crap anime Korean-shit, in essence.
The state of major animation today is fucking awful. An insult to all of those amazing animators that came before them.

>> No.56063236

>>56052497
>All classical paintings are like this.
You saw that one generalized tutorial and now think you know some ebin secret about art nobody else has figured out. Shut the fuck up midwit, you have never painted a single thing in your life.

>> No.56063276

>>56021617
Look what they did to April'o'neil

>> No.56063282

>>56062561
No it's not.

>> No.56063288

>>56063049
>>56063186
Keep seething, tumblrina. And listen to me when I say this. Listen good. Cover will never commission the shitty tumblr artist you're whiteknighting for. No member of Hololive will ever commission him, either. You know why? Because his art is monstrously ugly.

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>>56022252
>>56022505
>>56021617

>> No.56063506

>>56021292
based

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56063544

>>56063317
Like two grotesquely ugly peas in a grotesquely ugly pod. Tumblr art style is the subversion and destruction of beauty.

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>>56041426
That style is shit as well.
Just because it is old doesn't mean it is good.
Technically speaking it is a well crafted painting, just like this animation in OP is as well.
Going off portraits here :
Mona Lisa, great.
That girl with the head dress, yeah here we go (pic related), great too
Hell, even if you go in to surreal and fantastical, Van Goghs crazy ass paintings
The reason these are good is they are in-domain, aka they are consistent with how they are drawn.
This fucker and the animation in OP look diseased and that's why they are bad to look at. The average persons nose does not fucking turn damn near strawberry red when they are cold! That's not how noses work! That's how serious diseases work! Diseases that cause intense inflammation and breaking skin!

>> No.56063613

>>56063550
Mona Lisa is easily the most overrated painting of all time.

>> No.56063666 [DELETED] 

>>56019539
Oh shit es la creagura.

>> No.56063699

>>56063544
>tumblr art style
>this

You have literally no clue

>> No.56063700

>>56063613
Oh yeah, too true, but it is still a well crafted and consistent piece.
It doesn't veer in to inconsistency, which a lot of well celebrated pieces of art do, purely because they are old or someone important.
To be fair in the big mans case, Washington and the lot of them probably WERE diseased kek
I feel bad for those poor bastards back then who were smearing goddamn arsenic and lead on to their faces... not that they do anything that much safer today, half of the current 20 year olds are going to look like they are in their 50s by the time they are 30...

>> No.56063729 [DELETED] 

>>56063666
La creagura es una puta fea

>> No.56063761

Holy fuck I just realised I was expecting /vt/ of all places to have a modicum of taste. Thanks for this thread, it really reminded me this is a board for the absolute dumbest motherfuckers to ever exist.

>> No.56063834

>>56063699
>You have literally no clue
If you don't know that's tumblr art then you're a newfag who wasn't around for the great tumblr art plague.

>> No.56063863

>>56063834
You are a literal mouthbreather who can only hold 2 concepts in their tiny head at once

>> No.56063899

ITT: retards (or children) that think because they can criticize art styles aside from their beloved weeb shit means they have good taste

>> No.56063904

>>56063863
You have no argument and are lashing out in anger because your ignorance is being exposed. Pretty sad, Anon.

>> No.56063946

>>56063863
And you're underage, or just barely of-age, if you didn't see this plaque infect everywhere when Tumblr gained mass-appeal from these tards that all fled Deviantfart forever ago.
>>56063899
Weebs are just as bad for defending their moe-garbage shit as well.
Neither of them have good taste and will accept the worst, plain and most inconsistent looking trash around.
The types that would celebrate cheap shit like Dragonball Super and call you all kinds of names for liking the rest of the series. (especially Dragonball)

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56063963

>>56063761
Man, you gotta stop seething in this thread. You made a shit-tier animation. Stop crying that no one likes it. It looks like shit and multiple people are being honest with you. If you can't see why they don't like it then you can't be helped. Your style isn't very good nor is it even unique. If you wanted adoration you should have picked something with more mass appeal.

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>>56019539
>>56020332
These are the best laughs I've had in a long time.

>> No.56063986

>>56019539
I got used to their goofy style, if you’re tired of shitposting check out Fleeting Time. Its my favorite of theirs, so simple but beautiful nonetheless.

>> No.56064015

>>56063986
It is a shame because their stuff IS technically decent, besides the horrific nose and mouth thing they have going.

>> No.56064024

>>56063946
>he genuinely thinks it's from tumblr

>> No.56064065 [DELETED] 

>>56028654
>I MUST....I MUST...SUBVERT!

okay jew.

>> No.56064127

>>56064065
It's really funny how people like you only know 2 cliches for art and just spam that at everything even mildly non-comformist

>> No.56064148

>>56019539
>Actually look like a fish
Don't know if cringe or kino

>> No.56064182 [DELETED] 

>>56064127
I don't care about non-conformity. I care that it's ugly.

>inb4 beauty is subjective
no it isn't. there is an entire aesthetics department of philosophy to shouve up your ass if you think so.

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>>56064127
Stand back everybody we've got a NON-CONFORMIST OVER HERE

>> No.56064681

>>56056989
>I'm allowed to say that art looks like shit because it objectively looks like shit and anybody who thinks it's good has something wrong with their brain.
t. a lot of people with very different opinions about art

The "quality" of art is entirely depending on human minds, i.e. subjective - even if every human being on the planet thought it looked like shit, those would be billions of subjective opinions.

>> No.56064758

>>56064681
just a reminder anon:
post-modernists will get thrown in the same mass grave with the communists, jews and other subversive groups.
>also post-modernism is wrong. like objectively false since it's based on a false premise

>> No.56064881

>>56064758
Could you cite sources for your definition of "objective" and "subjective" instead of talking about a future you wish would happen despite not doing enough to make it come to pass?

>> No.56065054

>>56064881
No. Talking about definitions with a post-modernists is a futile task because the term "post-modernist definition" is literally (and I actually mean literally) an oxymoron. No matter what I would offer you, you would simply take a stance of abstraction and remove the layers of the fundamental human experience and say, "See, when I deconstruct the definition it actually doesn't mean anything because you can't prove axioms."

I've spoken to enough of you shit heads to know your playbook and how you just fundamentally hate people.

>> No.56065495

>>56063282
It is though, it has a facial structure that defined and easy to recognize, the anime girl on the right looks like every other 3d anime girl.
>>56063613
Mona Lisa was a technical marvel for it's time. Kind if like Romeo and Juliet, what once considered unique and ground breaking is now considered mundane and over done

>> No.56065586

>>56063834
Tumblr art isn't the art you dislike
>>56063904
What's your argument?
>It looks bad
Why? I think it looks good, it has exaggerated facial features that are striking to the eye, nit everything has to be a cookie cutter anime style you know.
>>56064182
It is indeed subjective

Actually I invite everyone here to explain in detail why the art style is bad.

>> No.56065792

>>56019539
wtf is this shit doesn't even look like Gura

>> No.56065854 [DELETED] 

>>56021617
>western artists
Jewish*

>> No.56065873 [DELETED] 

>>56065586
>I think it looks good
You're wrong.

>> No.56065939 [DELETED] 

>>56065586
>why the art style is bad.
It's ugly.

>> No.56065968

>>56064681
>The "quality" of art is entirely depending on human minds, i.e. subjective
Beauty is objective. If you like something ugly that doesn't make it subjectively beautiful - it just means you like ugliness.

>> No.56065973

>>56065586
>it has exaggerated facial features that are striking to the eye
Watching someone be flayed and dissected alive is striking to the eye.

>> No.56066016

>>56019539
it was neat
i like seeing the girls in different styles.

>> No.56067226

>>56065873
Why
>>56065939
It isn't though
>>56065968
What you just said is straight up wrong
>>56065973
Nice to see no one was able to actually explain their position, I love being right all the time

>> No.56067271 [DELETED] 

>>56067226
>It isn't though
>>“Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth”

Okay Goebbels.

>> No.56067388

>>56021292
It's a lot fucking better than the rhombus that's for sure

>> No.56067588

>>56067226
There is a certain portion of the human population that lacks higher cognitive function and you will have to learn to deal with them

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>>56055409
You seem really upset that people like things that you don't. Perhaps you would be more comfortable on a website where you could talk to other men wearing dresses.

>> No.56067740

>>56067226
>Why
Because it looks bad.
>It isn't though
It's extraordinarily ugly and misshapen. An affront to all standards of beauty.
>What you just said is straight up wrong
Actually it's straight up right.
>I love being right
Then you must be despondent right now

>> No.56067813

>>56067271
You still haven't explained why it is ugly
>>56067740
All of them are wrong, again. You can't do beyond I don't like it, which is okay but you're pretending they're objectively ugly which they aren't

>> No.56068052

>>56065586
>it has exaggerated facial features that are striking to the eye
Anybody that speaks like this to explain why something looks good is retarded and actually doesnt know shit or has shitty taste

>Why do i like the anime style?
>Its cute
>Why do i dislike tumblr tranny nose?
>Its ugly

simple as.

>> No.56068252

>>56067813
>You still haven't explained why it is ugly

Uncanny valley.

Realistic texture representation of a non-texturised source material producing a disgust response.

Deliberate visual flaws placed onto flawess characters.

Distinctly seperated teeth always elicits feelings of fear and danger.

Failure to capture the original source material's spirit of cuteness. Does not elicit the motivation of care which is the biological function of cuteness.

And before you say, "cuteness is subjuctive" (https://web.archive.org/web/20070927105817/http://www.winchester.ac.uk/view.ashx?Item=15993)) Fuck you, no it isn't.

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I personally don’t much care for the art style, but the people acting like the artist was trying to be malicious or subversive need to take their meds.

>> No.56068314

>>56063317
>April's black now
And here we go again. Next is going to be another remake of Mulan but this time she's black.

>> No.56068365

>>56067813
>You still haven't explained why it is ugly
Because it is. Anyone with eyes can see it's deformed and repulsive. Some freaks like you hate beauty though so you're drawn to the deformed and repulsive.

>> No.56069144

>>56068052
Again not an explanation but just a personal preference
>>56068252
For me it's the opposite though, stylized characters in realistic environment and lighting has it's own appeal, also yeah cuteness is subjective, the characters have proportionally big eyes which is why people tend to find anime girls cute because it reminds them children, babies which we evolved to find cute. Here they're designed to fit in s more horror like setting where the usual anime style wouldn't work and they do s good job at it.
>>56068365
They aren't though, the style looks good, you're being one massive baby

>> No.56069261

>>56068252
Both spider verse and arcane had these type of features in the designs of the characters and they all looked good. Making characters that are "flawless" into relatively realistic looking characters isn't an issue

>> No.56069442

>>56069144
Lmao, is the artist your sibling or something? You clearly know absolutely jack shit about artistic anatomy or art in general and here you saying "b-but I think" I don't give a shit what you think. If everybody sees something and you see something else, you know what we call people who experience that? Delusional.

>Here they're designed to fit in s more horror like setting where the usual anime style wouldn't work and they do s good job at it.
Now you're moving the goal post lmao

Okay retard, I've made my case with scientific evidence and artistic analysis and here you are saying "but muh fees fees", have a nice night retard, I hope the lobotomy didn't hurt too bad.

>> No.56069540

>>56069442
You didn't though your entire argument was "it's in canny" which isn't an argument at all, you know jack shit about act or character design.

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>>56069442
>>56068252
>>56068052
this is nothing but an autist seething about artistic subjectivity, something taught to most people in kindergarten.
Holy fuck

>> No.56069885

>>56069442
Making asymmetric, disproportional characters been a thing for decades, taking something and caricaturizing it is only possible with a deep understanding of anatomy, also it's not like the designs in this animation is exaggerated to the level of laika movies, they're relatively grounded while it's only faces that are exaggerated. Also attractiveness is indeed subjective, not only different nations have different beauty standards, babies are more likely to think those who look like their parents are safer to be around. The study you posted also doesn't show the faces that were shown to babies. Some people think blue eyes are peak beauty while others find it weird and creepy.

>> No.56070007

>>56019674
KEK

>> No.56070064

>>56021292
Look at those rubber neckers all craning to get a good look at this guy and put him on the spot. Fuck them.

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Why suddenly care about this guy he's been doing it for years. Are you all newfags?

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>> No.56074056

>all this stupid pointless argument
Anyways, neat animation, ugly art style in my opinion, even if it's unique to hololive art (which hopefully doesn't spread this kind of art style) and experimental (not really).

>> No.56075435 [DELETED] 

>>56019539
What is this dogshit fucking garbage?

>> No.56075467

it's really impressive how ugly they managed to make it

>> No.56075490 [DELETED] 

>>56020694
Stop westernized this shit, fag

>> No.56078142

>>56019539
I like the non-kawaii version. Kept me engaged.

>> No.56078578

>>56056551
>>56057049
Please give me back the neurons I lost reading these

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