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Was this segment really necessary? It's just making people who don't know anything about Hololive look bad in the eyes of people (read: Japanese Hololive hardcore fans). Council didn't have to go through this. You don't need to know anything about Hololive to be a good Hololive streamer. This was a bad idea by Kiara.

>> No.55980824

She felt threatened, so she decided to bring them down a peg. This isn't a friendship club. This is a business, and they are her rivals.

>> No.55980832

i dont know, it ended up being the fuwamoco show. they just buzzed before everyone and flexed their humungous double dong. so instead of thinking "damn do these bitches even wanna be here, at least do your fucking reps before signing up" you are left enamored by the doggos sheer power level instead since you can't really fault any one girl in particular since baubau mogged

>> No.55980862

>>55980732
>quiz actually exposed Shiori for the poser she is and the Daimond Dogs (Fuwamoco + Bijou) as the real patriots

Yeah, I am thinking based
Also, Rissa + Kiara are FINE

>> No.55980885

>>55980732
All i know is that shiori doesn’t care about hololive?

>> No.55980918

>>55980732
I'm thinking Kiara is pretty based for letting everyone know ahead of time not to get invested in someone that isn't invested in Hololive.

>> No.55981041

>>55980732
>It's just making people who don't know anything about Hololive look bad in the eyes of people
That should be a wake up call. Do your homework, Shio~rin.

>> No.55981147

>>55980918
Newfags don't know how Subaru started out.
Loyalty to the talent, not the streamer.
Anything else is no different from consuming Disney remake goyslop because it's Disney.

>> No.55981279

>>55980732
it’s a necessary segment to show that kiara, herself, was able to come up with these questions cause she knows so much about hololive. You think this collab was for advent? lol you naive fuck

>> No.55981371

>>55981147
>comparing someone who debuted in 2018 when hololive wasn't well established and popular to current year popularity
Comparison to Subaru isn't fair.

>> No.55981656

HOW ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO KNOW ABOUT SOME RANDOM INDO INCIDENT?? KIARA COME ON! WHY NOT FOCUS ON HOLOEN QUESTION

>> No.55982273

>>55981147
It's one thing to not know much about a company when you audition; you see a high paying job opportunity and you shoot your shot. It's another thing to STILL not know anything about them months after you got hired on. She's had time to do her reps. She hasn't done them. Why support someone that can't even show she's willing to learn? There are other other people you could be supporting that do put in effort.

>Dogs
We know they care. 5 fucking auditions to get in. Not only did they demolish that quiz; They then went on to sing a Karaoke full of Hololive songs. These two embody the Hololive spirit more than a lot of JP does at this point. It's actually unreal.
>Bijou
We know she cares. Three auditions to get in. The only reason she's a Vtuber is because she was so enamored with Hololive that she said "This is what I want to do" and put in the effort to get there. She put her nose to the grindstone and built herself from the ground up as an indie for the sole purpose of getting hired into HoloEN. That Undertale mod is damn cool too. She put in effort to stand out and it paid off massively.
>Nerissa
Okay I'll admit this one probably just wants to fuck Kiara. Still, at minimum we know she's been hanging around Hololive for a good long while before she auditioned.

>Shiori
She's been divisive from the start. She doesn't know anything about Hololive, refused to do her reps, and she namedropped Polka's PL, presumably without even realizing it, during her Vtuber history lesson. Yes, the girl is really, REALLY, passionate about the subjects she cares about. It's just a damn shame Hololive doesn't seem to be one of them.

>> No.55982370

>>55982273
cope

>> No.55982545

>>55980732
Based wawa to let us know which girl join mainly for money
While the others may still join for money, at least they put some effort to it
Shiorin didn't even pretend to buzz the thing

>> No.55982770

>>55980732
My suspicion during Shiori~n's debut has finally been confirmed. Her debut didn't feel very "Hololive" and her avoiding answering who her Hololive oshi was very sus as well.

>> No.55982797

>>55982273
So your premise is that Shiori would be a better streamer if she knew more about Hololive?

>> No.55983046

>>55982797
"Better streamer" is a bit vague, but I'd definitely be more interested in watching her go on a tism-tangent if it was about Hololive, yes.

>> No.55983496

>>55980732
read some of the 5ch they were questioning what happened to fast talk and why council didn't recieve the same treatment, that was it. Kiara at it again shitting on a new girl every debut. IRyS, Lap+ and now Shiori.

>> No.55983526

>>55982273
>Shiori
>doesn't know anything about Hololive
What did you expect from a last minute hire?

>> No.55983663

>>55980732
Gatekeeping Kiara is based.

>> No.55983997

>>55981147
Subaru is one of the most Hololive loyal members there is and loves the brand. Using her to defend EN's who have zero respect for Hololive is a new low even for you sick freaks.

>> No.55984138

>>55980732
Maybe it's your expectations that are wrong? Nobody can know literally all there is about Hololive.

>> No.55984286

>>55980732
I'm sorry your Oshi got humiliated. Everyone else had a good time. That's what is important.

>> No.55984485

>>55980732
Kiara should adopt the gatekeeper gimmick it's very based

>> No.55984667
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55984667

Blame EN management.
ID3 did quizzes like this on the last day of the collab ban.
>Just the three of them
>Hosted by m-chan
>Collective answer
>No scores
From basic questions like which Gen debuted between JP5 and myth?, to guessing the Hololive event/meme based on hinted emojis. Picrel was Heliarius. M-chan put more emojis than they should, and made ID3 confused.

>> No.55984698

>>55984138
>know literally all there is about Hololive.
All people want was 1 buzz from Shiori. She doesn't need to know everything about hololive for that.

>> No.55984717

So true sister

>> No.55984788

>>55980732
>>55980862
>>55980885
>>55984138
The quiz is one thing, you could possibly chalk that up to as stated being slow to push the buzzer.
HOWEVER, the quiz in conjunction with the earlier singular question rounds of the show and you have:
>zero reaction to acceptance letter - in shock or didn't really care?
>no answer for her holo oshi
wtf? how hard is it to just spit out a name of even one of them she'd seen half a clip of?
>i-i'll say in sekrut...
bull
All this stream did was reaffirm what's patently obvious about the dogs and make clear as day once and for all that shiori doesn't know shit about hololive.
Anyone joining in 2023 should have been able to answer at the very least the singular questions; the quiz was a bonus to flex in degrees.

Maybe it was all just bad timing or a bad day. OK fine whatever.
It's nevertheless a bad look whatever the truth of the matter, especially since she's going to be away at this early and crucial juncture. All of this isn't boding well for her.

>> No.55984822

>>55984698
The problem is that you gotta buzz to answer. Even If she knew the answer, she still has to win against the rest of them in speed

>> No.55984844
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55984844

>Gives a lecture about the history of Vtubing her second day
>Gets exposed as a Holo hack 2 weeks later by the resident gigastacy

>> No.55985124

>>55984844
>>55984788
It's clear the only strong connection Shiori has to her lore as the "Archiver" is autism. Her voice and personality don't fit at all and it makes me think Cover literally couldn't find anyone else with enough credentials/experience to fit the model.

>> No.55985177

Kiara wants to protect her job.
shes propably doesnt care to go through that shit again that omegatranny caused in 2022...

I bet shiroi isnt the last minute hire - shes the only one left that signed a contract with omegatranny in 2022 and they cant get rid of his bad choices

>> No.55985273

>>55980732
It can prevent another Kronii incident from Shiori. Kiwawa has her own way to drill the kouhai. I can trust her at this job

>> No.55985411

>>55985273
Kiara couldn't fix Mori, and it's obvious at this point Shiori wouldn't respect anyone that isn't from her era

>> No.55985463

> But the OG Get a pass
Fuck off.
You niggas are the real poser.

>> No.55985496

>>55985124
Go watch her streams anon

>> No.55985950

Shiorifags are becoming the new deadbeats
>Its okay to suggest male collabs
>Its okay to not know anything about Hololive
>Its okay to make collabs awkward
>Its okay to make ntr/cuck jokes

>> No.55985998

>>55985496
I get second-hand embarrassment from watching actual autists, there's no way I can make it through anything beyond collabs that happen to have her in them.

>> No.55986095

>>55980732
Honesty is best. Better to get it out now instead of having an "idol culture is a thing" moment

>> No.55986160

>>55986095
that moment is coming, this is the "Ahoy! is a one piece song" moment

>> No.55986237

>>55980732
Yeah its bad idea because it solidifies my hatred toward Shiori. Now I can't fully enjoy future advent stuff with Shiori in it.

>> No.55986289
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55986289

>>55980732
I swear to god if they do it to new Tempiss I would laugh so hard. Kiara becoming the real gatekeeper of Holo. Her antis will short circuit.

>> No.55986412

>>55986289
Please. The Tempus shitters don't even pay lip service to the efforts of their Holostars senpais.

>> No.55986422

>>55980732
How does that saying go? Something like
>The people who's against gatekeeping are the exact same people that should be gatekept
Because you're coping that some shitter was exposed as not knowing or caring about Hololive (the group >we as fans love, so it's not unreasonable to expect ALL the new talents to love it too?) and your first reaction is to seethe at the exposer instead? Very telling...

Also, your whole "accusation" (oh nyo, Kiara maliciously decided to do a Hololive quiz ONLY to make Shiori look bad ... because apparently it's now Kiara's fault that Shiori doesn't know shit about Hololive) hinges on the theory that Kiara was even aware Shiori was clueless before deciding to do a quiz. Which is unlikely because Kiara, being a Hololive fan herself, reasonably assumed that every new girl must also be a Hololive fan (or else why would you apply? Besides being a cynical grifter of course..) and have at least SOME working knowledge of the company. And you know what, she was mostly right, 4/5 of the girls are definetly fans. I'm really happy for them that they can now work in their dream company.
As for Shiori, she obviously doesn't care for the company, yeah spare me the bullshit how she's "t-totally a real big fan b-but .." can't answer basic questions like who's your HL oshi "b-because uhhh .. reasons". So if she's in it for other reasons than loving Hololive, that's fine, just don't whiteknight ridiculous copexcuses for her, and let that girl collect her passive retirement income or whatever else motivates her then instead.

>> No.55986451

>>55985950
Fuck I couldn't work out why they pissed me off so much but you're right, its kekbeats from 2-3 years ago all over again.

>> No.55986493

>>55986422
I can actually blame Kiara on one thing: making this whole game competitive, instead of asking them one by one.
Let's ascribe malice to Shiori situation. If that was indeed true, it would expose her even harder.

>> No.55986508

>>55984822
Even when someone else (fwmc lol) buzzed first, Kiara often also noted who buzzed second and third etc.
Shiori was never among them, so the "s-she was totally buzzing, j-just not fast enough..." cope is getting embarrassing

>> No.55986518

>>55985998
Then how can you tell she is not an archiver or has nothing to do with archiving?

>> No.55986671

>>55982797
Pretty sure anon’s saying she’d be a better Hololive member.

>> No.55986690

>>55986508
She actually was mentioned and sometimes Kiara said "multiple people buzzed for this" so saying she never even buzzed is just speculation or misinformation to support the general hate towards Shiori

>> No.55986850

Why should i care about someone who doesn't care about her job? She does awkward conversation killing kayfabe shit in collabs as it is, but not giving a shit about the entirety of hololive is a strong no from me. Don't listen to the coomers who fell for the model.

>> No.55986889

>>55983046
>can't get interested in tangents about any topic except Hololive because Hololive is their only hobby
Grim

>> No.55987116

>>55980732
cope cuck
your oshi does not care about hololive

>> No.55987285

>>55986690
I rewatched the whole segment and Shiori was mentioned maybe two times or less. When multiple people buzzed we also heard their consecutive buzzers, and most of the time it was just two or three, never four (and no prizes for correctly guessing who was the missing last buzzer).

So you can lay off the copium, the other Novelites have already moved the goalposts to "y-yeah well okay I admit she doesn't care about Hololive, b-but that's okay because ummm you don't need to know about Hololive to be a good talent..."

>> No.55987303

>>55986889
>More interested
>Only interested
Yes these are clearly the same thing. Guess I shouldn't expect anything better at this time of day. Let me make it a little easier for the ESLs shitting up the board to understand: A discussion about Hololive would be more interesting than listening to her talk about Jane from Tarzan. The topics she goes on about are boring. Knowing she's only here for a paycheck, and not because she gives the slightest bit of a damn about the company or the people in it, only makes it harder to forgive her inability to be entertaining. At least if she was a big fan I could root for her success because she's just trying to live her dream. But she's not; she's just here because it pays well.

>> No.55987341

>>55987303
You urgently need to go outside and touch some grass.

>> No.55987390

>>55986889
I'm sorry that I'd much rather hear a girl talk about the one common interest we theoretically share than about how her ass hurts from the dragon dildo she tried out last night. Go back to VShojo.

>> No.55987449

>>55987341
It's 6 am and the coyotes are yapping outside. The only place I need to go is to sleep.

>> No.55987566

>>55980732
Everyone besides Shiori knew answers
>Shiori made a 2h video explaining vtubers
She brought it on herself

>> No.55988447

Everybody talks about Shiori knowing nothing but I was the most surprised by how relatively little Nerissa knew about Holo. Everytime she got to speak she her answer were either incomplete or straight up half wrong.
I thought she was the giga Holofan of her gen not the dogs...

>> No.55988519

>>55988447
Nerissa is extremely forthcoming about this, she didn't even know about vtubers until myth had their debut

>> No.55988534

>>55982273
>she namedropped Polka's PL
So sad that nobody has let Polka know.

>> No.55988623

>>55988534
It's best they don't. Shiori got the name wrong. She called her Nobunaga.

>> No.55988669

>>55982273
I see dramasisters have already selected Shion as their “weak link” target of all hate this gen.

>> No.55988728

>>55988519
Yeah but I expected someone that sleeps with a Kiara doll to do her reps a minimum?
Like you don't have to have started watching Holo since 3rd Gen to know that La+'s name takes 3 S or that Subaru is an e-sport manager

>> No.55988764

>>55980732
SHIORI 10 days vacation with Tyrone DEFLECTION

>> No.55988769

>>55987303
>A discussion about Hololive would be more interesting than listening to her talk about Jane from Tarzan.
Like, I understand Shiori yab is huge, but are you fucking serious? How is a corporate cocksucking machine better in your eyes?

>> No.55989003

>>55988769
nta, but is it really that hard to understand why a Hololive Fan would find Hololive topics more interesting than whatever vapid lolimsucharandomandquirkygirl stuff she talks about instead?

>> No.55989060

>>55989003
Yes, which you can get from elsewhere. Like some fuckboy channels. Other Hololive members talk about random shit all the time and get a pass.
Again, I agree that her dispassionate approach to corporate culture is a red flag, but going to the opposite direction is equally bad.

>> No.55989187

>>55988728
I will admit that I never noticed that La+’s name had a third S. That being the trick part of the question instead of the + is clearly the point

>> No.55989219

Wow I can't believe this bitch didn't know how many pets an arbitrarily selected coworker has. Truly your seething 2view (forma de 4chan upset posting) should have been given the slot.

>> No.55989223

>>55988769
>? How is a corporate cocksucking machine better in your eyes?
Better let her talk and shill her old friends and talking about Blacked

>> No.55989266

>>55989060
ok so what are the "fuckboy channels" where can I get Hololive talents talking about Hololive topics then? If you mean actual Hololive channels from talents that actually love Hololive, yeah I'm already watching those (and not Shiori lmao).

>> No.55989384

>>55989219
If everyone doesn't know the answer to a question, you may be right it doesn't matter much, or at least you don't stand out as the obvious weak link.
But when you're repeatedly the only one who doesn't know even the most simple basic questions, then yeah, that's on you, and people will notice and come to their conclusions.

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