/vsj+/ - VShojo+ General

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Back to the Tower of Nightmares Edition

Welcome to /vsj+/! A thread to discuss VShojo and any Vtubers frequently associated with them.

It's late, and that means there's only one person live. That's right, Henya has finally finished the required hanging out portion of her stream, and is now back to more DKC2! She's still pretty bad at the game, but at least she's able to progress! That's it for now so check out Henya or find something else to do until tomorrow. Regardless of the choice you make be sure to keep things comfy and civil by ignoring and especially reporting bait, and being excellent to each other.

Don't forget to catch VShojo's first concert on August 26th! More info here: https://candypop.vshojo.com/

VShojo is:
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot
Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya

VShojoJP is:
Henya
https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius
Nazuna
https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
Kson
https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou
https://www.youtube.com/c/ksonONAIR

Related:
総長 + 会長 for dedicated Kson discussion
/るみな/ for dedicated Nazuna discussion
/999/ for dedicated Henya discussion
/lig/ for more + and ex-member discussion

Previous Thread: >>55942367

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fuck (You)

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capybara

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>>55970427

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will you let mouse smother you with her BLTS anons?

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All my fat tit Henya images have been reposted too frequently so have a titty monster

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>>55970870
With her increasing mobility it may not be your choice for much longer

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>>55971095
hot

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I just realized that the audience won't be able to use VSJ emotes during the concert because it's on YouTube

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>>55970921
always wondered how would it feel like getting your dick sucked by sharp teeth, pain or pleasure]?

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Henya leaked!

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>>55971380
Remeber your oshi marks Dayo.

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>>55971380
I will type OMEGALUL no matter what. You can't stop me.

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>>55971380
Good news! Most of those 7TV emotes work on YouTube too if you have it installed.

JOELER WILL LIVE!

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>>55971380
I wonder if the concert will also have a free part, like what HoloEN did. It might be a good way to get those on the fence because of the quality or any other reason to pay the 30$.

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>>55971380
I will not watch the concert but I will post as if I am watching it.

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https://twitter.com/ProjektMelody/status/1690586830796656640

Would.

>>55971650
I'm not sure they can, or know how, to do that.

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>>55971629
I use FFZ and will not be installing 7TV just for YouTube streams I never watch

>>55971650
Would be kind of awkward to pull off with it being done as a members stream

Holo uses some other site for their concerts

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>>55971804
https://twitter.com/ProjektMelody/status/1690581018149826560

Also the developers don't know Mel very well.

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>>55971380
NOOOOOOOO MY WIGGLYS AND HYPES

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>>55971804
Does Mel have dick?

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>>55971629
doesn't the channel have to enable it also not just us?

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>>55970719
You are the taking away of the fap apple of the world.

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Look at my cute delinquent wife

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>>55972025
dildos inside her yes

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Mousey is watching you

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When women say they watch gay porn, do they mean Men gay or Women gay?

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>>55972430
yes.

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>>55972430
I mean, who doesn't like some hot girl on girl action

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>>55972430
Doesn't matter honestly.

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>>55972430
pansexual porn

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henya is about to go full flight school on stream.

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>Henya malding

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>>55974785
ahhh classic henya

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>>55974785
>>55974894
Just wait till she gets to the tower levels kek
Or the next boss battle

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TTSfags doing gods work tonight KEK

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Would Henya want to have sex with man?

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>>55975573
I think she'd have to find one first

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>>55975573
She will eventually. Everyone does when their Fed ends.

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hey

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>>55976343
oh... i already have someone to watch after henya leave. Nice.

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>>55976343
candi is mouse going to bard with you today, after your 6hr dark and darker offline with her?

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no rats allowed to see but Candii commissioned this and it's cute

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Yep I figured this boss was gonna give Henya hell

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>>55971650
I've always gotten the impression that most people in this thread are cheap. Are there going to be a lot of people here who are even going to watch it?

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>>55977398
I bought it and going for merch also to support the girls and staff

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>>55977081
cayoot
>>55977398
Yeah I bought it. I was considering trying to see if anyone would help pirating it, but figured since I was interested enough and liked literally everyone involved that it was worth the cost of entry. I'll probably be spamming the thread with screenshots so if anyone didn't buy it they'll at least get to see

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>>55977398
In my country the membership feature is not available and I'm living in a tight budget right now, so I lamentably can't buy the membership ticket.

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>>55977398
I will and was going to gift anons here a membership but apparently YouTube doesn't allow for selected gifted memberships and that sucks balls.

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Henya is getting her balls busted.

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>>55977398
I would but I'm already low on cash
>college student
>the Puerto Rican succubus sucked my wallet with the Apari merch
i'll probably listen to the new songs on repeat, imaging how cute they probably looked

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>>55977920
It doesn't help that she's doing the fight in the hardest way possible

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>>55975573
>would Henya want to have sex with man?
I think she would have to meet another streamer she was highly compatible with like what happened with nyan and vei. She doesn't really strike me as the type that seeks out relationships like that in the real world.

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.
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>Archive Links:

- Complete Nyanners (Post Vtuber Debut) Vod, Fanart/Reaction Pic and Karaoke clip Archive (Starting on 2020-07-17 running until 2023-xx-xx): https://rentry.org/Nyanners_Vod_Archive

- Complete Hime Hajime Vod Archive (Starting on 2021-01-31 running until 2023-xx-xx): https://rentry.org/Hime_Hajime_Vod_Archive_

- Some Indie Vod Archives and Links to official Vod Channels: https://rentry.org/Indie_Vod_Archives_lig
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>Some other stuff that might be of use:

- Vod Archiving guide for Twitch/Youtube Live streams that covers the basics: https://rentry.org/Vod_Archival_Guide

- Links for the 4chan (#/vt/ and #recanon) IRC channels, Koikatsu Party Character cards from /Vsj+/ and /lig/, the website to make wordclouds: https://rentry.org/Random_Stuff_

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>>55977398
I will but I'm not happy about it

I skip out on almost every merch drop as it is so I can't really be that much if a pisser over 30 bucks for a concert

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>>55978351
No idea how many people have purchased it but based on the message given from VShojo's highlight's channel having about 73 likes (which you can only see after purchasing the membership) not many, but it is early and message likes don't mean squat.

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>>55978449
Membership messages are pretty hard to see unless you go looking for them and at the very least I didn't bother liking it. Doubt it represents anything.
It should sell pretty well, assuming the girls do the bare minimum to shill it.

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>>55978597
They'll probably market hard in the week leading up to it

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Haruka has the best tits in vshojo

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>>55978597
I was trying to figure out what the take would be from this. Figure $30 per membership, YouTube takes 30% of those and no idea how much Candy Pop might take (not sure what their involvement is but it is possible they've already been paid), so let's assume we're still working with about $21 per membership for VShojo. If only 1000 people watch that's $21,000 which isn't great overall but a nice bit of moolah. If 5000 watch now we're talking $105k which is probably more what they'd want. Even if VShojo takes half of that, each of the 9 girls would take home about $5833 which for a single event isn't a bad night's work. I would hope for something more like 10k viewers which doubles everything but not sure VShojo's fanbase is willing to do that especially on YouTube. I wish I had the purchases for Kizuna Ai and VILLS to know how the audience receives concerts.

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>>55978884
Isn't Candy Pop Explosion just the name of the concert?

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>>55978884
Both Ai's concert and VILLS were a lot bigger than just VSJ anyway
Also they're so long ago now that the VSJ audience from those events is not representative of the VSJ audience today

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>>55978877
>best tits
Hime?

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>Henya is raiding Candii
What does it mean

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>>55979082
candii is the new nyanners. Accept it.

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>>55979082
It means literally no one is online

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>>55979145
>Henya didn't raid Meat

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>>55977398
I'm going to get a membership, but I'm waiting until the last days before the concert (unless they bait my fomo with some kind of early exclusive content), just in case they have to pospone it or cancel it. At the end of the day, you're not buying a ticket for the concert, but a youtube membership.

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>>55979145
and that in turn means *ilver fags will shit up the thread.

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Will Henya go to Comike-102?

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>>55978979
Okay I'm retarded, ignore that part. For some reason I thought they were a promotion group or something, not the title of the concert. I think it is how they have a website for "candy pop" which is like "candypop.vshojo" or whatever and it made me think "oh they just make promo websites for people and that's this one" and it's late and I'm retarded ignore that.

>>55979016
Yaeh I know but I was hoping to see what kind of sales might have been for VILLS on the day Mouse, Nyan, and Silver performed because you could purchase tickets for just that day and whether Nyan had any impact on Kizuna Ai's concert at all. I remember the Moment House chat for both being quite boisterous and moving as fast as someone who had thousands of viewers.

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>>55979219
Not sure why they'd have to do that since, according to Henya the Leaker, the concert is already done and she watched the final product.

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>>55979073
quality > quantity

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>>55979311
Hey, that actually looks pretty good anon.

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>>55979207
I don't think she knows Meat yet. Now that would be a fun collab if she gets VRC

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>>55979433
>if she gets VRC
If?

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>>55979349
wait, I may be ESL, but wouldn't that mean the part in the promo video that says "Your favorite talent performing live on youtube" is inaccurate or misleading?

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>>55979249
>Will Henya go to-
no

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>>55979503
The concert will be streamed live
That doesn't mean the concert itself is live

Same deal as Mouse's concert

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>>55979559
>performing live

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>>55979596
>Your favorite talent performing, live on youtube

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>>55979596
Deal with it. Doing a vtuber concert "live" is difficult enough but they're going to be full 3d models dancing and singing and how would you do that with everybody across the globe? We can't even get two vtubers to karaoke a duet because of all the latency from streaming to discord to stream again. Just doesn't work.

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>>55979596
Do you understand how much of a technological and logistical nightmare it would be to have 9 people from 9 different places in the world sing and dance in sync with 3D mocap

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>>55979755
That + some of the girls' dogshit internet or random issues (like imagine Mouse experiences a shortage of meds at the time and suddenly the top singer is out).

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>>55979381
the bigger the better

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>>55979730
kek I was thinking that, but then the correct word would be performance, right?

>>55979755
>>55979874
yeah, I know the logistics of doing what they are trying to do has to be hard, but then don't advertise it as a live performance when it's not.I'm not saying it should have been a live performance, I'm saying they should not have adverised it as a live performance when it's not

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>>55979129
what is mouse/candii love called?

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>>55979755
Unless you group the girls in the same room like Holo, which is impossible with Mouse

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>>55979989
boring love

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>>55980016
And Henya

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>>55980016
Half of the girls would be extremely reluctant to leave their homes too.
And then you have Hime and Nazuna who would probably pass because it takes too much time from their main gigs, unless it's on Japan.

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>>55979987
Right, but you're being told two things here:

1) they didn't, the way the promo goes is as >>55979730 points out.

2) you shouldn't have thought it was going to be performed live because logistics.

ESL or not, use your skull bruh.

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>>55980016
holo's 3ds haven't been live since 2019
and the songs with more than 4-5 people on stage are composited with multiple smaller groups

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>>55980469
Right in those cases they're recorded with everybody together performing while the best we can get is the models used by professional dancers who do all the movements as well. The girls just dub their lines in and the music is recorded. Now thankfully, heretofore, the recordings have been new ones, but reused existing ones to I'm not sure for Zombies during Mouse's concert.

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>>55980805
"Not reused existing ones" I mean

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A "live" is just the English loan word that the Japanese use to describe concerts. It doesn't imply that it's actually live
Like how the word "bitch" means whore or how a "Viking" is a buffet

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I WANT TO SUFFOCATE UNDER ZEN'S FAT LATINA ASS

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>>55981482

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>>55981482
this but with mouses tits

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You think Silver uses drugs? Or at least weed?

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>>55981482
>LATINA

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>>55982483
no

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So cute
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1897228673?t=04h23m53s

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>>55982888
I think you accidentally linked to a react segment

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>>55982953
Henya bobbing is cute

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I still cant believe we got Henya

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>>55982583
*latinx
I'm sorry

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>>55984058
Mouse is gonna slap you through the screen

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>>55984116

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>>55984907
Something is missing from that picture but I can't quite put my finger on it.

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>>55984958
it's from the days when Mouse had small tittolies on her model, and didn't yet say that her RTX actually has big tittolies

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>>55984907
https://vocaroo.com/1lOpJ1N6JWrT

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>>55985128
one of the most legendary moments of /pmg/
glad I was there to witness it

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I FUCKIN HATE VEI

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>>55985128
why is this kinda hot?

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>>55985198
times have changed

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>>55985266
Mouse finally fulfilled the wish of an anon who's been begging to get slapped by her for months

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I Will trigger a timeloop in the next thread

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>>55985265
But why?

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Is it just me, or is the mouth rigging on the Mikeneko model quite a bit worse than on the Nazuna model?

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AAAHHHHHHHH... I WILL RRAT

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>>55986413
The meme potential if Sinder joined and became bigger than Silver would be legendary.

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>>55986530
I am dying just thinking of the edits that will come out and the numberfags who are gonna put charts together

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>>55986371
this model is so well rigged. So much potential wasted.

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>>55986413
>Hime is also following her

>>55986530
>if
It would honestly be a sure thing

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>>55986371
Yeah, I've noticed that Mike's mouth tracking is shit. And I don't like the Rushia eyes, they're weird looking

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>>55986530
she would be bigger. The debut buff would help alot. Haruka and Nazuna were unlucky to miss it. Henya had the best outcome.

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>>55986788
Nazuna had it for a while, she just shat it all away

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>>55986830
i think she got a bit sick and was very inconsistent with her stream. Haruka on the other hand got long ligma soon after recovering from bronchitis.

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>>55986371
>drops better model(s) and better rigging to timeloop her Hololive days
Here's their showcase
https://twitter.com/Hoshi7Mizuki/status/1682731751653933057
Here's a showcase they did recently for a model done by Kson's artist
https://twitter.com/Hoshi7Mizuki/status/1685652680478507009

Mikeneko is incredibly stiff. But the other girl isn't as stiff (still not super great).
Can't possibly know without seeing the model files but some of the blame could be on her artist for not creating enough layers or cutting well.

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>>55987003
>some of the blame could be on the artist
Considering it's the exact same artist as Rushia and it seems like she wanted it to be as close to Rushia as possible, I'd say yes

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>>55987061
she is probably using the same shitty software cover uses.

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>>55987127
She uses VTube Studio, she's accidentally shown it on stream before. Also, Cover'a software is proprietary

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>>55987265
wasn't the point of hololive to promote it?

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>>55986413
itss funny, but sinder seems to be as boring as silver but with a less sexo model.
you people should have rrated lucypyre as a better vei, that would be a great pick

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>>55987499
god no... Lucy is awful and don't fit here.

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>>55987265
Did Cover send someone to her house to delete the program when she was terminated?

>>55987499
>sinder seems to be as boring as silver
Wrong, Sinder is actually engaging and funny and interacts with her chat with sincerity.
She also has other hobbies and talents and plays actually good games

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>>55987827
It's an iPhone app on a Hololive provided phone.

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>>55987499
Vei doesn't even compare to how dangerously based Lucy is.

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>>55986413
new dog acquired

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>soap cat peaked at over 6k
>on a non-game stream
no wonder she prefers YT
I really wish we knew which third party fucked Nazuna over

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>>55988184
meh... Just another zoomer being zoomer. All her fame came from asmongold watching her videos.

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>>55988167
But there would have to be a program on her PC that communicates with the phone app

At any rate, did they send someone to her house to take the phone back?

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>>55988410
At least she's not Polish.

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you know mouse is fucked up when she doesn't show to candii stream. Hope you get better soon rat.

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https://youtu.be/NyFV0mVaTVA
kchon will show her 9999 IQ
live now

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You know, they have been pretty good at keeping new things under wraps. I don't even remember anything leaking out.
Kson was speculated on the day of the teaser
Nazuna was kept tight
Haruka was a surprise
Henya's identity was only found out on the day when her stream background was released.

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>>55988678
mouse and kson hinted a lot about henya it wasn't even a surprise to us.

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>>55988678
people who watch kson knew pika was /in/ like 2-3 days after she announced her graduation

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>>55988428
They probably remotely wiped it

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>>55988428
the phone app is the equivalent of vtube studio, it just sends a video feed to OBS or whatever broadcasting program you use

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>>55988866
The VTS mobile app directly communicates with OBS?
Everyone I've ever watched is clearly using the desktop program

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>>55988328
She wants to stream on twitch. Mike is for YT and Nazooner is for Twitch

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>>55988328
It was Vei

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>>55989015
we're talking about hololive's phone app...

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>>55988328
Most of her fans are Japanese and YouTube is significantly more popular in Japan than Twitch

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Love my wolf wife

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>>55989140
>equivalent of vtube studio
Kind of implied that it worked the same way.

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Man I don’t even care if Nazuna streams primarily on youtube. Good for her that she’s getting paid more so she can be happier and feel more fulfilled. I just want her to interact her co-workers more and participate in events. It makes me happy to see everyone together

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sonch

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>>55985128
Why are these always delete when I have finally time to check /vt/? Am I too late or are you guys too early?

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>>55990043
its still there, anon

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I am dating ironmouse

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>>55986830
>Twitch
>JOP
She was doomed from the start. How many people /here/ admit that they don't watch her anymore?

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>>55988328
I still put money on VShojo pulling something dumb and then lying and blaming it on "unnamed third party"
>>55989069
>wants to stream on Twitch
She was praising YouTube as being better in her last Nazuna stream

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>>55990644
I watch her Nazuna Duolingo streams.

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>>55989326
The language barrier is going to work against her in nearly every situation

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>>55990805
Didn't she only do one of those and it was about two months ago?

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>>55990644
I still watch Nazuna (when it's not Apex) and I've watched some Mikeneko streams

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>>55990701
>I still put money on VShojo pulling something dumb and then lying and blaming it on "unnamed third party"
Just like you put money on her leaving kek

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>>55990644
I watched her at first, but her Apex and Valorant streams filtered me hard

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>>55979311
Cute!
Senpai, please collab with my wife!

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>>55970870
Where is this from, I don't remember this camera angle

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>>55991407
https://twitter.com/ironmouse/status/1690177783756881920

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>>55990701
The lengths you guys go to defend cover still are impressive

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https://twitter.com/AnibaeVT/status/1687819236226523136
holy

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>>55991467
Oh, I forgot to check twitter recently I guess. Thanks

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>>55991607
V. clappable cheeks.

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>>55991342
>Valorant
Hey, she streamed that once and never again because it gave her motion sickness.
She can't even play it on her new PC because it's Windows 11
>>55991175
Yeah, because being 90% right about her views on VShojo as evidenced by her soft retirement means that we were 100% wrong? Yes, of course. Sorry, sir.
>>55991498
>Cover
It's 100% not Cover, though. Or else Mikeneko wouldn't be able to stream on YouTube while part of Voice Ore.

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>>55991949
Yes, you were 100% wrong. Own up to it.

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I still don't understand the quota and the twitch only timeloop, according to Henya, VShojo doesn't force her to do either. Also Kson streams on both plataforms, so why was Nazuna the only one with such conditions?

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>>55991949
>being 90% right about her views on VShojo
You are inserting your own views. The reason she wants to use youtube is because she makes more money there. You twisted that into "she thinks vshojo is evil".
>It's 100% not Cover, though.
lol

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>>55992213
Because Nazuna is a new character. If she joined as Mike like Kson did she wouldn't have any problems.

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>>55992213
Literally all we know is there's an unknown 3rd party preventing Nazuna from streaming on YouTube

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>>55992237
>The reason she wants to use youtube is because she makes more money there.
Hey, I'm not the one claiming she's doing everything for money. You're far worse.

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>>55991607
I've seen her nipples

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>now henya posts vrchat screenshot
https://twitter.com/henyathegenius/status/1690621290087055360
They definitely had a VRChat meeting a few days ago. Is this the first time we see this model?

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>>55992533
She literally complained on stream about not making a lot of money on twitch

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Vei was forced to act retarded.

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>>55992237
Did I say VShojo is evil? No, I said she was in soft retirement.
Don't put words in my mouth for describing the current state of affairs.

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>>55992213
most likely situation:
cover has a non-compete for being a "virtual youtuber", with an exception for existing personalities/brands (which mikeneko is despite what the quotanigger will tell you)
this is why kson, delta and mike can stream on whatever sites they want but nazuna cannot use youtube specifically

less likely but still possible situation:
she signed some sort of whacky twitch exclusivity deal that only covers nazuna and didn't get her partnered until 2 months later, without the high stream hour requirement you'd expect from such a deal

100% true i can confirm situation:
vshojo HATES her gachikois and their relationship with her and must sabotage it at all costs because they are paid by the CIA and WEF

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>>55992449
>>55992475
I see, seems like she signed a shitty contract then
>>55992572
Testing her 3D model maybe?

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>>55992574
It's not a money thing. It's the fact that most of her fans and potential fans aren't on Twitch
She did complain about Twitch money but that sounded more like she's getting a bad cut percentage. It's not the reason she doesn't like Twitch

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>>55992615
Mikeneko YouTube channel was only set up after the termination internally and she wasn't even a Vtuber until the 24th April.
There is no such thing as a "non-compete" as specific as your imaginary example. None. You can't just argue that just because we haven't seen one that we can't deny its existence
Show me a single Vtuber with your super specific non compete clause and maybe I'll take your claim seriously.

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>>55992646
Stop coping you dumb idiot. She has a 100% cut of her twitch earnings. She still complained about money. She wants to get thousands of dollars per stream, that doesn't happen on twitch.

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i'm looping

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>>55992736
yes i've read this same post 10 times before

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>>55992589

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>>55992742
>100% cut of her Twitch earnings
No she doesn't. Twitch takes a cut.
>She wants to get thousands of dollars per stream, that doesn't happen on twitch.
She does get that on YouTube, funnily enough. Besides the Apex collab because her fans hate that game

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>>55992736
>Show me a single Vtuber with your super specific non compete clause
Amemiya Nazuna

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoqQwdnpLuQ

[Anonymous No.]

You had this conversation 100 times before, just fucking stop, you autistic fucks

[Anonymous No.]

If you key guys got a sonch membership a year ago we wouldn't be having these loop problems

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>>55992954
All of that info was leaked all over the catalog and nothing of substance was answered

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>>55993000
The juicy stuff wasn't leaked, I camped the numbers thread for a while to be sure.

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>>55992954
>If you key guys got a sonch membership
but that's cheating

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>>55993000
which non-vshojo companies would she have signed a non-disclosure agreement with?

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>>55993111
It's not Cover. 100% not Cover. There's literally no way it makes sense to be Cover unless you just invent a made up contract like that one anon /here/ who copes about this daily
If she signed some shady deal with Twitch, they'd probably get her to sign an NDA. Or loutlot was a lying whore

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>>55993088
Based and 100% true

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>>55993245
>>55992954

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>>55993318
Anon, it isn't Cover. Mikeneko is also in an agency and has no problems

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>>55993347
You lack critical information.

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>>55993318
>>55993347 (Me)
Also, Nazuna implied that she had a choice and that it was debuting on Twitch that locked her to the platform. Such a choice would not exist if she just had some weird "non compete clause with Cover only on 'new' accounts that only keeps her off of YouTube"

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>>55993382
So do you
>>55993401

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>>55993401
For the record the information that you lack was laid out in the open with no "implying"

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>>55992449
So is Henya.

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>>55993566
Henya was not in Hololive.

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>>55993532
If it's not being said publicly even now, it doesn't exist.
Again, everything I know and that includes info you're not privy to suggests heavily that it isn't Cover

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>>55993566
That comparison makes no sense because Henya wasn't in a corp

[Anonymous No.]

Kiss vshojo posters when they least expect it

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>>55993599
>implied
>suggests
>hinted at
>vaguely alluded to
You shoulda got a membership, you would actually know instead of thinking that you know.

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>>55993805
It's not Cover.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are Chibison posters so cute?

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>>55993805
Is this a new technique to shill memberships? It's not all that good, to be quite honest, especially when we can just talk to Ksongumi who would have leaked it if it was actually said

[Anonymous No.]

how does vshojo benefit from her being stuck on twitch?
what does this supposed twitch exclusivity contract give her in return?
why would twitch put the time and money into signing one single medium sized vtuber when they don't even bother keeping their 20k fleshies from being poached?
why the secrecy, when connor is allowed to flaunt his twitch exclusivity?

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desu

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>>55993979
Buying a membership won't help now, that's why I said you should have bought one a year ago. And I am leaking it. You're wrong. That's the leak.

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>>55993985
it's an NDA from cover

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>>55993985
>how does vshojo benefit from her being stuck on twitch?
Why would a company with ties to Twitch advise their new talent that Twitch is the best platform to stream on and the ideal one with which to build a VShojoJP box? Wouldn't be able to tell you, to be honest, my friend.

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>>55994029
Ksongumi have too notorious of a reputation of hating Cover for me to trust a single word you say, though.
In the same way that nobody trusts Keyfags when they won't leak member stuff, why should anyone believe you?

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You know what, new rrat: Nazuna is just a menhera and everything she says about contracts is unreliable

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>>55994043
so they're more interested in benefiting a company where they used to work than actually running their own company?
ogey

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>>55993601
VOMS is absolutely a corp

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>>55994115
Nope, taken straight from their website:
>VOMS is not a company, but a group of individuals. GYARI only created the group VOMS, and is not strictly speaking a producer. The distribution policy and management of the channel is basically left to the discretion of the individual members, with each member taking responsibility for his or her own channel.

https://voms.net/concept/

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>>55994109
Keeping Nazuna off of YouTube barely benefits Cover. Unless you think VShojoJP had an actual chance of competing with Hololive
VShojo's logic to keep her on Twitch makes sense, but it's just dumb in hindsight

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>>55994103
Yeah, that's why I only trust "anon". He's never let me down before

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>>55994152
Except that Henya apparently doesn't own the Pikamee IP and has signed an NDA over her PL

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>>55994091
>Ksongumi have too notorious of a reputation of hating Cover
Yea half the reason why is related to this topic

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>>55994162
keeping ex-members from being successful absolutely benefits them, it keeps their current members from leaving
why would they only do this "forced-twitch" thing to only one single member?
also you ignored all my questions except the top one

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>>55994236
Anon, Ksongumi are not going to anti Cover because Cover is "totally keeping Nazuna off of YouTube"
Hell, I've seen enough borderline anti comments from Ksongumi about Nazuna to be sure of that myself

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>>55993670
*cums on you*

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>>55994247
Your questions are retarded and not worth entertaining
Why did Nazuna imply she had a choice to debut on YouTube if Cover were stopping her? The only "explanations" I've seen are "Nazuna is lying", "she doesn't understand her own contract (but anon sure does) or she's lying"

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>>55994272
>kson fans wouldn't be upset at kson's friends getting fucked over
I see you don't know us very well

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>>55994309
read between the lines a little
she could have joined vshojo and debuted on youtube as mike

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>>55993985
>what does this supposed twitch exclusivity contract give her in return?
Presumably a better cut in earnings
>why would twitch put the time and money into signing one single medium sized vtuber when they don't even bother keeping their 20k fleshies from being poached?
VShojo have connections to Twitch staff and pushed for it because it benefits them
why the secrecy, when connor is allowed to flaunt his twitch exclusivity?
Because it was a complete fuckup and killed Nazuna's growth. Why else did she mention that she was disappointed that not enough people were moving over to watch Twitch as she had expected. Why would she expect that and where did those expectations originate from?

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>>55994364
That's not at all what she was implying
There's no reason to assume she ever thought about joining VShojo as Mike. She's given enough reasons for Nazuna's existence to make it obvious that joining as Mike would have made no sense.

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>>55994364
Absolutely this

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you guys know that gunrun quit twitch like 5 years ago right

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>>55994446
Absolutely not that.
Her separation of identities autism makes no sense if she was actually just considering joining as Mikeneko

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>>55989271
i dont remember posting this but yes, i do with all my heart. and i am glad she had a happy birthday and accomplished her 24 hour stream.

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>>55994448
Yeah, I also don't talk to my former coworkers or take advantage of networking the moment I leave my job and work in something in a very similar field.

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>>55994383
>>55994512
yagoo used to work for sanrio
kson used to work for hololive
are they gonna fuck over their current jobs to benefit the places they used to work?
why would gunrun do that?

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>>55994512
you guys are acting like twitch pays him to make his vshojo girls stream there or something

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>>55994470
I’m not saying she considered that
I’m just saying that’s what I would have done if I was your wife

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>>55994539
Because it could be seen that convincing Nazuna that Twitch was a good idea was good for VShojo's business.
Hindsight is 20/20.

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>>55994564
If she joined as Mikeneko, she wouldn't have talked to anyone at all in case they got harassed
She was talking about this just today on stream since she was doing a Q&A and people kept asking about collabs.

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>>55994618
So she’s not collabing with anyone in Voice-Ore ever?

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>>55994585
her reaching as large of an audience as possible to sell as much merch as possible is good for vshojo's business
her getting a bigger cut on subs is completely irrelevant to vshojo's business

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>>55994539
>yagoo used to work for sanrio
That's pretty cool, I didn't know that

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>>55994666
She didn't say "ever"
It was an explanation for why she was hesitant to do collabs currently.

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>>55994672
The view being pushed around that time was that Twitch was growing in Japan and it was a good market to push into. Since then, it's been made clear that Twitch is not growing as fast as initally expected in Japan. Nazuna herself even talked about this
The idea that VShojo, incompetent that they are, misjudged the growth of the Japanese Twitch market when making their decisions cannot be discounted. On top of that, it seems like they think that Nazuna should also be trying to capture the EN market

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>>55994713
> If she joined as Mikeneko, she wouldn't have talked to anyone at all in case they got harassed
“at all” implies ever

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>>55994780
that's an argument for having her be on twitch, not for having her exclusive on twitch

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I remember reading quite a few posts in the catalog during the recent weeks about people who were annoyed with Nazuna for going into soft retirement because it was "throwing away Kson's kindness in helping her join VShojo"
I wonder if it was any of the Ksonfags here who were making those types of posts about her.

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>>55994539
>yagoo used to work for sanrio

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fast teeming elastic infinite uneven spherical helplessly trombone motorcycle scissors ink tread risk carry remove complete flee

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>>55994881
Never assume anyone in the catalog is who you think they are

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>>55994829
By "at all", I was trying to preemptively cut off people who would go
>hurr durr she doesn't collab anyways
by reminding people that she was interacting with the other members a lot more in her initial few months with the company.

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>>55994881
if catalog monkeys say something nice about kson they're probably falseflagging

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>>55994966
Just like how any catalog threads that praise Mouse are actually just seething threads

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>>55994881
Absolutely, we love making threads to have discussions with /vt/ catalogfags, love those guys.

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>>55994966
As a rule of thumb, anything in the catalog is either bait or falseflagging

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>>55995245
Dunno
I've seen people use the catalog to vent their "true feelings" that they can't mention in a general without being dogpilled on

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>>55988167
No. The have two bits, one an iPhone app that uses iOS's ARKit. That sends facial+head tracking data over LAN to a PC which uses custom Windows software that wraps the Live2D Cubism SDK for model rendering

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>>55995589
When did that happen and what was it about?

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>>55995589
Which is why I said, it's a rule of thumb, unfortunately the amount of bait far outweights the meaningful discussions
>>55995752
Yesterday, I made a thread about "idol culture", it went as well as expected (to be fair, I used some baity language to incite interest), in the end it got removed under the "no IRL stuff" rule

[Anonymous No.]

masturbating to lily raider because she looks like skinny version of Hime.Took John Rasputin's cock like a champ.

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>>55996031
I cant unsee this now thanks asshole.

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>>55996031
Eh, I don't see it.

[Anonymous No.]

does anybody else here shave their armpits but using a lighter with a small flame to carefully singe the hair away?

[Anonymous No.]

Love my Space Demon wife, she just went live
https://www.twitch.tv/rainhoe

[Anonymous No.]

>>55997288
nah, I just cut off the skin with a knife

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>>55997743
>So-Souchou's big boing boings...

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>>55997804
>big
Where?

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>>55997861
They are big when compared to Henya's pettans

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>>55997861

[Anonymous No.]

Good morning, I hate IronMouse.

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>>55997349
WHORE

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>>55998035
focus on the stream rain

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>>55997288
Wrong!!!! You need to spray deo and then set it aflame.

[Anonymous No.]

Y'all seem bored
Rain is live and she's talking agencies atm

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>>55998397
Wow that sounds awful

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>>55998397
Mythic'd.

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>>55995862
Isn't Nazuna an idol?

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>>55998756
Nazuna is a whore. Mikeneko is an idol.

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>>55998790
Nice falseflag

[Anonymous No.]

The rat has been healed.
https://twitter.com/ironmouse/status/1690736039004901376

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>>55998916
Can someone explain in Fortnite terms

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>>55999059
Mouse hit the chug jug

[Anonymous No.]

I just saw someone mention on twitter and I went to checked, it looks like quite a few of Mouse recent vods on her youtube vod channel have badly out of sync audio

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>>55998756
The whole point of the thread was that, by realizing the perfect 2D girl, the idol culture ended benefiting the vtuber by siphoning money from viewers (mainly men) who had that expectation. When the illusion of perfection is shattered (a collab with male vtuber for example) there's an expected backslash. The idol culture is actually exploitative for the vieweres, not the streamer, in my oipnion.

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>>55999314
Mudan hate

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>>55998630
Chat: "Just join Mythic Talent"
Rain: "Pass"

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>>55999406
Then she will fail.

[Anonymous No.]

Rain has baby fever

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>>55999314
Also since its not the full vods I'm not really sure in what way its out of sync. I save her vods and have had some out of sync in the past but it was fine at the start of the vod and got worse at the end I had to "stretch the audio" by like 2 seconds over 5 hours but maybe its the same out o synch all the way through the vod.

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>>55999344
Just get a better oshi then

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>>55999593
she wants to be a milf for people who love milfs

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>>55999593
Connor. You know what you must do.

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>>55999314
I hate mouse vod channel I think vods should be uploaded as the whole thing not cut in to segment the only editing that should be done on vods its to remove dmca

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>>55999658
>better oshi
Thats essentially the problem. You have a cutout of the imaginary perfect idol and youre trying to stuff vtubers into it.

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>>55998397
Interestingly, it sounds like her current place (GG Talent) doesn't offer management. She's happy with the sponsors, she just wants management.
This... actually would be a good opportunity for VShojo, to be honest. Her needs align with what they actually offer. Also, she said "pass" immediately to Mythic, kek

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>>56000364
Another obvious pickup VShojo could do wow! Too bad they won't do it

[Anonymous No.]

>>56000364
That "pass" is just misdirection. She just can't reveal she's signed until they announce it.

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>>56000364
Vshojo will once again fail on an obvious and easy pick up.

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>>56000364
A new member that could cover some dead time where no one else is streaming? Nah, fuck that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56000469
If Vshojo had any brains in their talent acquisition, we'd have Snuffy, Haruka, Anny as a quasi gen/wave 2, and Rain+whore clan as a #3.

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>>56000364
Rain would be a great add
At the end of the day she has to want to be in and vshojo needs to get their shit together and make offers
If the thing is about chemistry between the girls
I can point point out that froot has never done a solo collab with mouse
Or hime has never collabed with the other girls besides Mouse

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>>56001007
Hime did collab with Haruka, but i get your point

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>>56001056
Before Haruka was in Vshojo.

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>>56000364
Rain would unironically be one of the best possible hires for VShojo:
A sizeable and established audience
Perfect timezone to cover the dead hours
Has a similar vibe with the rest of the girls
Already knows almost every? active talent in the company
Generally just a very entertaining streamer
Too bad Gun/Mel/Whoever is making decisions in this company is too retarded and absolutely incompetent

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>>56000469
>>56000544
>>56000632
>Streams at mostly empty hours getting consistently decent numbers (2-2.5k)
>Gets along with and collabs with several VShojo girls
>Has an extensive friend network including basically every major indie twitch vtuber
>Likes "extra" things like lore videos
>Likes commissioning silly stream things like fall damage mods for Jump King
>Likes con appearances
>Is explicitly looking for management
I know things aren't as simple as "she fits therefore she should be in", but man at least on the surface she not only seems like a great fit for VSJ but VSJ would be a great fit for her (based on what little we know)

[Anonymous No.]

>inb4 VShojo loses another chance and she just joins MSM or some shit

[Anonymous No.]

Mouse live

[Anonymous No.]

>>56001316
day ruined

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>>56001007
>I can point point out that froot has never done a solo collab with mouse
>Or hime has never collabed with the other girls besides Mouse
To be fair, both of those came in at the very beginning before VShojo really had any idea of what worked and what didn't for then. And Froot and Hime are on the "low" end for them in numbers and at least from the plush sales, merch. But we don't really know what their strategy right now is. People meme on VSJ never hiring people or preferring hires from corpos. It'd be great if she joined though and maybe we'd get more moments like picrel

[Anonymous No.]

Rat live to shut down these stupid /in/ posts about that homewrecker Rainhoe.

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>>56001403
>>56001402

[Anonymous No.]

>ear popped so I can hear again

[Anonymous No.]

>>56001403
BASED

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>>56001402
I can tell you what their strategy is, it is incredibly similar to a chicken running around with it's head cut off.

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>>56001526

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Sushidog sushidog sushidog i want to rape sushidog i want to rape her so baaaaaad i want to book a ticket to japan and rape sushidog and nut 7 times in her tight hafu pussy until i have gotten out all of these months of sexual frustration. I have to do it, or i will end up self-destructing. I don’t care. japan can deport me, enprison me. I will never regret deflowering her sweet cunt

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>>56001966

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>>56001007
>Or hime has never collabed with the other girls besides Mouse
She collabed with Nyan and there was that weird occasion that she collabed with Froot and Mel on the VShojo Twitch channel I believe.. That may have been a fever dream.

[Anonymous No.]

van gogh model when

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>>56002166
She was supposed to be on Lewdcast a while back.
But that got cancelled and not rescheduled

[Anonymous No.]

>>55999406
Okay I'm watching Rain now

[Anonymous No.]

that TTS called her a hag kek

[Anonymous No.]

>I LOVE YOU SO MUCH YOU HAVE TO DIE

[Anonymous No.]

>>56002375
Those few streams where she had them muted were so peaceful...

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>>55993245
The only companies involved with her (at the time) are VShojo, Cover, Twitch and YouTube.
The available options for the obstructing third-party are very slim. We know it can't be VShojo because they don't do that, and it can't be YouTube because they're the ones getting blocked, and it most likely isn't Twitch because they're not gonna care enough about her for an exclusive contract.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56002375
Welp, time to go to the gym.

[Anonymous No.]

Mouse just used Bubi as an excuse to use Connor's voice as her TTS

[Anonymous No.]

>>56002497
didn't you saw her smiling at the tts saying darling?

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>>56002497
>>56002531
they're just really good friends

[Anonymous No.]

>>56002471
Speaking of, Reminder that Mouse has not tried her Strawberry Demon Plasma on stream yet. I personally think it tastes good and works well as a pre workout.

[Anonymous No.]

how did Mouse manage to get bf and still stay successful
did she ever have any siblings in the first place

[Anonymous No.]

What

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>>56002586
she would if she could

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>>56002586
maybe the doctor vetoed it afterall

[Anonymous No.]

>I will buy your girlfriend
>Mouse will buy our Oshi's
Oh it's so joever sisters

[Anonymous No.]

>>56002752
my oshi is /in/

[Anonymous No.]

bakers?