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54966807 No.54966807 [Reply] [Original]

HoloENsisters...? What did management mean by this?

>> No.54967387

i think they meant you should get a fucking job

>> No.54967401

>all of them competing for Gura's timeslots

>> No.54967524

yuros don't deserve shit

>> No.54967602

>>54966807
they mean that the pacific coast is the best coast. Which is factually correct and not up for debate.

>> No.54967623

Who in EN would you even want in the 4AM slot

>> No.54967698

>>54966807
>What did management mean by this?
West coast is all that matters. Why do you think it was chosen for the EN concert

>> No.54967767

Europeans crying again, adjust your sleep schedule or go support IdolES
>>54950011

>> No.54968088

>>54966807
Every single one of those streams had double Kiara's average CCV despite all overlapping each other.

>> No.54968342

>New girls buff catch a lot of new potential viewers
>The mega overlap will make the new viewers oshi them
>The other girls stream at the same time to mantain their old viewers
>Mega expansion

Only Jap-sama would have come up with such an idea, I kneel to this genius

>> No.54968419

>>54967602
Holy cringe

>> No.54968639

>>54968342
>The mega overlap will make the new viewers oshi them
Interesting, is this an actual effect

>> No.54969146
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>>54966807
>beg and scream for EN3
>get EN3
>get upset over more streams
You know what, go fuck yourself

>> No.54969331

>>54966807
I think management wants to see how many EN fans the branch can actually get. This is a test

>> No.54969502

>>54968342
This is a good explanation. I initially thought I would try all of the girls out, but with the overlap, I am sticking with my doggos.

>> No.54969516

>>54966807
Cover hates the EU and that's based.

>> No.54970232

>>54966807
>GMT
get your own girls eurocuck

>> No.54970711

>>54969502
Personally I'm getting burnt out over it and end up watching none, you can't pause and rewind streams mid stream so if you miss 5 minutes at the start due to another stream popping up you have to wait 3 fucking hours to go back and replay that 5 minutes, it sucks.

>> No.54970883

>>54966807
fuck off eurofags go watch Kiara

>> No.54970990

Europoors and SEA are both absolutely terrible

>> No.54971102
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>>54966807
Kneel.

>> No.54971181

>>54967623

mori

>> No.54971307

It's like this everyday on the JP side.

>> No.54971312

>>54967602
It's 2023 and large parts of it are covered in homeless poop. It's time to stop.

>> No.54971450
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West Coast bros...we won.

>> No.54971487

>>54969146
>>get upset over more streams
Yeah, more streams I can't watch because they're all overlapping with each other

>> No.54971709

>>54967401
I think gura is losing

>> No.54971797

>>54970711
Stick with one and fail for the trap

>> No.54971905

>>54971487
YOU'RE MEANT TO WATCH ONE STREAM

>> No.54972152

>>54970711
>you can't pause and rewind streams mid stream
there's a script to re-enable dvr on streams

>> No.54972321

>>54967767
Buy an ad you parasite

>> No.54972522

>>54972152
Can you link or spoonfeed the name, I really really really want that

>> No.54972818

>>54972321
>parasite
Pot calling Kettle...

>> No.54976362

What if I live in American and work when they stream?

>> No.54976663

YOU WILL WATCH KIARA

>> No.54976693

>>54966807
Doesn't EU have Kiara?
Watch her lol

>> No.54980610

>>54966807
If small corpos dont take advantage of this then they deserve to lose

>> No.54980756

>>54980610
>EU members actually being vtubers
anon...

>> No.54980869

>>54980610
Are there any European VTubers ever?

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>>54966807
They should be competing for EST.

>> No.54981526

>>54980945
Why is the california bracket so tiny? Am I reading it wrong?

>> No.54981612

>>54967602
anon i live here and you're wrong

>> No.54982213

>>54968088
Yes, because the largest majority of viewers, both casual and hardcore, are from NA timezones. Turns out no one in the EU gives a fuck about anime girl streamers. EUFags need to shut the fuck up and deal with that fact. Enjoy the VoD watching I only get VoDs with Kiara and Reine...

>> No.54982395

>>54982213
>There are no anime girl streamers streaming during EU times
>Therefore no one gives a fuck
>Therefore there are no anime girl streamers streaming during EU times

>> No.54982706

>>54982395
The market is shit, they would have streamed during that time if there was interest you dumb faggot. Your shithole 1 step away from 3rd world countries are not worth it.

>> No.54982830

>>54982706
>>54982395

>> No.54983037

>>54982830
Repeating it doesn't make it any more correct. Do you really think there aren't statistics around that they can view on their accounts to see who is viewing from where and when?

>> No.54983374

>>54983037
>There aren't statistics of the EU audience watching us so clearly there is no market there
>Batto manageru-san arr of yuuropu izu asriipu whiru dey sutoriimu
>Shut the fuck up Takeshi and make sure the new generation is all streaming at the same time, there's an infinite number of people in PDT to get new fans from

>> No.54983384

They are testing out something thats for sure. It's a first step to figure out every Advent girl's best timeslot
but in /vt/'s head : "they are competing one another!"

>> No.54983530

>>54966807
the largest population of weebs and japanese diaspora is located on the US west coast

>> No.54983545

>>54966807
They can't stop me i will buy 6 more monitors so i can watch all of them

>> No.54983636

>>54983384
>but in /vt/'s head : "they are competing one another!"
This but unironically.

>> No.54983686

>>54981526
california bracket consists of california, oregon, washington,BC, and bunch of canadian wilderness and vasts amounts of ocean, EST bracket includes a bunch of latam

>> No.54983717

>>54966807
Simple. Battle Royal. The loser's schedule will be chosen by the company. If I had to guess, the stone loli may soon get a new schedule.

>> No.54984207

>>54966807
I think the idea is they want to get a feel for the real numbers and to have subs be given by people who genuinely want to watch and not be a dead sub. Could possibly be an algorithm technique? A more dedicated sub that isn't inundated with streams of various girls may also be more willing to open their wallets for a single girl instead of wavering around only thinking of who to do it to, so its a psychological technique too. Crazy people who multistream are the minority, most do not want four different voices in their head at the same time.

The dogs are probably there because that's the time they are comfortable with.

>> No.54984413

>>54971905
BUT I LIKE THE FUCKING DOGS AND GEM TOO!
They need to stop streaming at the same time because I'm not a zoomer so I can't watch two streams at once

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54984578

Indiechads, we're safe!

>> No.54984579

>>54966807
OverlapEN
Don't worry it will be less of a problem once half of the new girls stop streaming regularly

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>>54966807

Worth noting is that the first "Fuwamoco Morning" stream took place at 4:00 P.M. UTC+0, so the title made sense only to people in PDT (9:00 A.M.), UTC+8 (midnight), or UTC+9 (1:00 A.M.).

What did Fuwamoco mean by this?

>> No.54984840

>>54982706
the dogs got almost 40k CCV during EU hours, more than double of what they got in Americlap time, dumbfuck

>> No.54984984

>>54972522
https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/459535-ytbetter

>> No.54985117

>>54984840
KFP sisters are afraid

>> No.54985126

>>54966807
It means eurofags aren't the target audience.

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>>54984984
Anon thank you so much

>> No.54985298

>>54984794
You're wrong, it was 9 AM MST which means 8 AM PST

>> No.54985413

>>54985241
You're welcome :)

>> No.54985418

>>54984794
Your times are wrong, their first stream was at 00:00 for me, and my time zone is UTC+9.
>What did Fuwamoco mean by this?
They meant that it's morning for them, because they're in Canada and it was 08:00.

>> No.54985575

>>54985298
*MDT and PDT, I keep forgetting about that

>> No.54986057

>>54985126
Bitch. There are 24 hours in a day and all EN streams are scattered in that 6hours gap. It's not even about Europe, pick ANY time from the rest 18 hours of day.

>> No.54986617

>>54986057
Some of those hours are worthless hours.

>> No.54986772

PDT CHAD WE KEEP WINNING
kind ashame for real though because I actually have a lot of girls whom I already watch in pdt time slot so I can't check out advent that much

>> No.54987022

this hour is dead till jp night

>> No.54987097

>>54967401
it's the advent time slot now

>> No.54987191

>>54986617
>Some
Yes. But non got the streams. Look at JP on the other hand when stream times are much more evenly distributed. Meanwhile EN:
>morning
No streams
>afternoon
No streams
>late night
No streams
It's like it's mandatory to start streaming at 6pm and end midnight.

>> No.54987309

>>54966807
Bau bau

>> No.54987334

>>54987191
I really wish we had a late night streamer

>> No.54987395

>>54980610
>exile the other corpos to the EUTZ ghettos
based

>> No.54987530

>>54967602
Why does HoloEN pander to pacific coast so much anyways? Is that where the most money comes from?

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>>54966807
i'm here to laugh at yuros again

>> No.54987900

>>54967602
People get asspained but geographically speaking you're going to be hard pressed to find a better area in America. A dipshit in central California has access to pretty much every sort of general climate within a 2-3 hour drive, hard to get that in most other states.

>> No.54987983

>>54968342
Honestly pretty smart if it was intentional.
I originally planned to check out all of them over the next week to see which I liked best, but the overlaps made come to the decision I'd rather watch Bijou first and foremost.

>> No.54987992

>>54987530
cuz sleeping late but getting 8 hours is bad? idk

>> No.54988142

>>54968342
>>54987983
Why is it smart to make your audience latch on to only ONE oshi, though?

>> No.54988279

>>54988142
I guess they would want a viewer to get into the habit of watching a hololive stream at a certain timeslot. Whenever their oshi takes a day off, they'll be left craving more hololive content, thus causing them to try watching another member. I have no experience with anything like this but it sounds like a better plan than just doing nothing.

>> No.54988371

>>54987191
Yep, the reason I wanted en3 was less dead hours. Now we have everyone fighting for the same limited audience instead of casting the net wider. However, this is early days and I suspect this schedule won't last.

>> No.54988393

>>54987530
General tech mecca of the country, but also the last of the 4 American timezones and you want to find a time slot where they're also off of work. Wagecucking is fine with you staying up, not so fine with you leaving early, so it's preferable to have a 6-9pm PST time slot even though EST gets a late night.

>> No.54988451

>>54988142
Because for the average joe, it means that the more invested you are in a single talent, the more likely you are to spend your paycheck on them.
Sure, there are oil barons that don't watch streams and just splurge their money on all the b'day merch anyway, but they aren't the target audience for this strategy since it's already guaranteed they're going to spend money.

>> No.54988551

I listen to Phase Connect and Olivia Monroe all day at work and now Bijou and the rest of EN3 have replaced Pippa after work. Get rekt nerds.

>> No.54988727

Bless the twins
And bless the rock cunny if she plans to start earlier sometimes.

>> No.54988753

>>54971709
lol. Give it a month when the honeymoon phase wears off. 18K a couple days after debut? Pretty weak. In 2021 during Gura's 2nd Super Metroid stream, she peaked at 10K. 2+ years later she gets 13K playing some kusoge with all the new whores streaming

>> No.54988861

>>54983384
>>54983636
>"they are competing one another!"
Holoan do not represent /vt/

>> No.54989160

>>54985117
I want Kiara to have competition in the timeslot just to shut you faggots up. They're on their first week and are also good at appealing to the JP audience because they like to speak Japanese frequently in their streams. The JOP only have one real option out of the new girls to pick from to try and join in on the hype.
The faggiest thing about you is that even if someone like FuwaMoco chose that timeslot and their numbers leveled out in a month or two to be pretty close to Kiaras, you'd still say "OH IT'S BECAUSE (x bullshit reason about their personality)". Own up, no one wants to watch in the EU timeslot so no one streams during it.

>> No.54989536

>>54989160
>The JOP only have one real option out of the new girls to pick from to try and join in on the hype.
Funny thing about that is the rock already has a dedicated JP translator in chat and you'll occasionally see jp bros chiming when she does something particularly cute. Apparently they call her "Ishi Luna" over there.

>> No.54989667

>>54989536
Bro, a few vs FuwaMoco having a crazy amount of Japanese in their chat all stream?

>> No.54989705

>>54987334
Irys?

>> No.54990040

>>54989667
Does it matter how many there are? I'm just pointing out that jps will watch whoever they want, Japanese-speaking or not.
And for the record, I don't care about your feud with the schizo up top. I'm only relaying what I saw in Bijou's chat.

>> No.54990180

>>54988142
because they dont care about you watching everyone one person regularly donating to one girl is worth more then a person who watches everyone but doesnt donate because he feels no attachment

>> No.54990399

>>54967401
>Gura's timeslots
Seeing as she stopped streaming for how ever long, it's not her timeslot

>> No.54990630

>>54989536
Why Ishi Luna?

>> No.54990716

>>54989667
I wish they stream at JST-friendly time, because my time zone is GMT+9 (basically JST).
Also I hope they will not listen to retards (I already saw some in chat) who don't want them to speak Japanese.
>>54990630
石 [ishi] means "stone".

>> No.54991057

>>54967602
Cuckifornia hands wrote this post

>> No.54991571

>>54988142
Hololive strong point was always a big community with a lot of mini communities with their own different people, but in the end all united by the same company and by the same "big hololive dream". Most people can't keep up with all the girls, it's literally impossible, that's why if a fan invest in 1 or 2 3 4 talents, then the business is running. I don't mean it as an attack nijisisters, but the COLLAB COLLAB solo cont.... COLLAB AGAIN 6 PEOPLE OUT OF NOWHERE, It's a good strat to keep people interested and the group content is always something fun, but it leads to many of the talents ending up almost like 3views if they don't have 5 people next to them and if they don't belong to a clique, unless you REALLY REALLY stand out. Who do you invest in that situation? Of course to the one that makes you laugh more when they are in the group, while the others eat shit. Even Sana was living the life of her dreams (economically) because she had a lot of people invested in her and that's why the collab ban is one of the best ideas in hololive. Each talent should feel like its own identity with its own community behind it, not like someone else's toy

>> No.54991720

>>54991571
Big brain take.

>> No.54991723

>>54991571
Try again in non-schizo talk.

>> No.54991886

>>54988753
In a month gura will ghost again for 6.

>> No.54991955

>>54991886
For 6 days, right?

Not 6 months?

>> No.54992018

>>54989536
>Funny thing about that is the rock already has a dedicated JP translator in chat
Such is the power of cunny holy shit.

>> No.54992460

>>54967602
Have you considered that like 4-5pm pdt is actually too early for a lot of people who work? Fine for students sure but not everyone. However, those hours are more like 7-8pm eastern, where a lot of people have finished work and gotten back home from their commutes.

Pacific time is actually only partially for Pacific, but is because it is the sweet spot that also starts to be very-accessible for central and unless you are Amish or something and 8pm is too late, it's actually best for Eastern. Which would make sense as the Eastern seaboard has the majority of the US population.

The Pacific slot IS the Eastern too dumbasses. Thing is yes, putting like 7 overlapping streams all in one go sucks. It would have all sucked just as much if they all started at noon Pacific, 5pm or 10pm.

I think, holoEN is not used to this much overlap happening because it is big-enough in count of streams for this to actually be pretty easy to bump into now. Maybe they can sort things out, but you have to look at holoJP with like 35 girls and often there is a ton of overlap daily. That is the future we are starting to already be in, you cannot keep up with all of it.

>> No.54992733

>>54968342
>The mega overlap will make the new viewers oshi them
I don't understand this point.
Why do you think that more overlap will make more viewers likely to oshi someone?
For me it just means one strike and you're out. I didn't immediately click with Nerissa on her first stream, so on the next day I didn't even bother switching to her when both Gura and Bijou were on in parallel. And I'm sure there are plenty of people who didn't even bother checking out one of the new girls actually streaming a game, because she was overlapping their oshi.

>Mega expansion
I'm pretty sure the Advent girls have lower CCV on their post-debut streams than Council did, with the exception of Sana.
Of course, what matters is long-term viewership, but I really don't think more overlap is particularly helpful in that regard either.

>> No.54992752

>Couldn't follow Vesper because he started streaming 90 minutes before I'd get up each day
>No one else actually starting streams in between then and ~6 hours later
>Couldn't follow most of those because I'd go to work and most of EN wouldn't be streaming after I got home and before I went to bed
>New batch of ENs happen
>Both of those gaps still remain completely unfilled

>> No.54993130

>>54992752
Time to look for other corpos or some indies. Cover is blatantly saying they don't want you to watch.

>> No.54993505 [DELETED] 

>>54968088
Almost like the majority of the viewers of HoloEN (Both hardcore and casuals) are in a timezone that is within reasonable stream watching time

Also Honeymoon period

>> No.54994862

>>54982213
This is the dumbest argument. Just reverse the situation. Everyone streams between 12pm to 6am and the only one at NA primetime is Kiara. You really think people watch someone they don't like/find interesting just because they are the only one streaming? Doesn't help that Kiaras jrpg part 12 streams are super first-time-viewer unfriendly.

>> No.54996231

>>54992733
>what do you mean it encourages oshis
>I switched to the streamers I liked more when they were overlapping

>> No.54996953

>Only option for aryans is to watch the insufferable lesbian whore Kiara
Youd think the japs would hate amerimutts but here we are

>> No.54997262

>>54996231
How would you even know if you like someone if you're unable to even watch them. All this does it make me stick to the one's I already know until there's a vod or non-overlap stream that might look interesting to me. It's not going to help those that are new since it takes exposure and traction from the debut from them.

>> No.54998706

>>54966807
Its all yours Idol, Phase, Prism and VShojo

>> No.54999884

>>54998706
I wouldn't watch Vshitshow if they were the last vtubers alive

>> No.55001298

>>54966807
well bijou has been asking chat what are good eu times to stream on for next week

>> No.55002101

>>54967602
you will never be white

>> No.55002177

>>54966807
That europe is a timezone worth less than latam. Even IdolEN knows this and decided to make IdolES than IddolEU

>> No.55003384

>>55002177
Except EU is not a language, and Idol has Roca, Rin, Fuyo, Riro, Katta, Nikki, Poko and Kai, all of which stream at least partially at EU-compatible times.

>> No.55003488

>>55002177
wait till you find out what continent spain is located in

>> No.55004039

>>54992752
Yep, the whole point of EN3, i thought, was to fill the dead air. Instead, we have everyone fighting for the same viewership in that 6 hour slot which was already pretty well catered for. Even Mori who used to vary her schedule to accomodate other timezones has stuck to that PDT slot recently too.

>> No.55004281

>>54987191
I thought EN getting new gens would mean more varied timeslots. like I could open YouTube and find a EN stream at any hour of the day. I want streams in the morning when I'm getting ready to go to work. I want streams on my lunch break. I want streams on my way home. Why must every stream always at night?

>> No.55004390

>>54967623
Give the 4am eastern time to every chuubas I don't watch including tempiss. Because I'll be asleep to give a fuck.

>> No.55006303

>>54966807
West Coast Asians are the only real audience for EN

>> No.55007687

>>54966807
>guaranteed three-views
Hololive doesnt want it

>> No.55007837

>>55004390
i would be awake waiting on faunas streams then Nerissa, god damit why do mumei and gura stream the same time slots.

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