/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>could give us kino Holosummer with individual swimsuits and funny skits
>instead gives us an MV about holomems going at a slut party with 3DPDs
>btw even those holomems hated that MV but they didn't have a say about it
Honestly I just hope this get memoryholed and they never hire this guy again.

[Anonymous No.]

>btw even those holomems hated that MV but they didn't have a say about it
Seems believable, but is there any evidence for this rrat?

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537540
>>54532893

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>>54537540
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFc5qtWS7wQ&t=396s
>holomen had no input on MV
>holomen were only shown the completed MV 2 weeks prior to today
>management didn't even ask if the holos were comfortable with the MV, Marine was worried about what Towa thought of it
Also Towa had a menhera attack two weeks ago on her roommate

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537418
Your post isn't very supportive, anon. Please read through the guidelines again.
https://hololivepro.com/en/news/20230517-01-8/

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537585
>>54537694
Naruhodo. That was a bad idea. Hopefully they can learn from it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537694
You can't have 2 drivers. Someone makes the call and the rest follow. You don't ask your hired idol for permission. If they have objections they raise it later (2 weeks before) but management isn't obligated to agree.
Cover was trying to contest both a cute and sexy idol sectors. Its not like there's men in there. I know of unicorns being angry at men but I don't know of seiso-fans who get upset at fanservice.

[Anonymous No.]

>homos eliminated
>girls being whored out instead
this is the ultimate monkeys paw

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537418
No wonder this HoloSummer was pretty spicy. The girls had no input and that is a good thing. Most of them already collab with males, so don't give a shit if they feel humiliated or not. Especially Towa who's an e-celeb dickrider. Fuck her. And Kronii too.

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>>54537540

>>54533536
>>/jp/44162135

[Anonymous No.]

>>54538555
What was said? Paraphrase it need be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54538386
I just think it's a shitty thing to do when they use your image for something you didn't approve, especially when it makes you look so out of character. Sure, Cover has all the right to do that, but historically they always seemed to explicitly ask the talents if they wanted to participate in something, telling them exactly what they were up to. Regardless of whether fans would still like it, I think the talents should've had the say to opt in or out.

[Anonymous No.]

>NOOO u cant stop me from collabing with males!!!! I want to suck dick and be a whore!!?!??!!!
>NOOO u cant show me as a whore in MV?!?!?! i am pure and seiso!?!!!!

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>>54538696
It's not their image. If they leave those models stay with Cover and most people don't know who the fuck they even are.

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>>54537418
So how upset is the community over this really? I've seen pretty mixed opinions on /here/ but we all know /here/ doesn't matter. Any word on the japanese side of the community?

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>>54537418
That they didn't have a say in it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. This was a whole new direction for some of the talents, and the MV was very different from previous ones too.
Having no say on some standard stuff that has been done before, okay. But something like this is a problem.

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>>54538696
Realistically they were told 2 weeks before and they are paid enough to make it hard to opt out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54538712
This falls apart when you're not a room temperature IQ nigger and realize that being slutty and talking to a male has 0 correlation.

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>>54538518
Anon, there is a big difference between playing FPS with dudes and being portrayed as sucking the skin off a cherry while seductively winking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54538633
kanji characters that were vague and could be interpreted in many ways but mostly negative connotations.

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>>54538792
it's literally their image anon what the fuck are you on? they put on that model to present themselves to the world, they gain an audience by giving life to that model and giving it a unique personality. that's literally what constitutes their image. the model itself belongs to cover legally but nobody is talking about that here.

[Anonymous No.]

You know antis are desperate when "too much sex" is the only thing they have left to criticize Hololive Summer.
>I had a boner and it felt awful, I bet that the girls are uncomfortable and Cover should apologize

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>>54538841
>that being slutty and talking to a male has 0 correlation.
KEK good one anon

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>>54538820
Some JP wrote up a message to Cover that looked like some notice announcement that deplored the depiction of the girls and the implications.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537418
It's hot girl summer

[Anonymous No.]

>>54539103
Why are you brown?

[Anonymous No.]

>could give us kino Holosummer with individual swimsuits and funny skits
>NINA GRADUATED AND MYSTA IS GRADUATING, SHU AND SELEN ARE PLANNING HOW TO ESCAPE
>NINA GRADUATED AND MYSTA IS GRADUATING, SHU AND SELEN ARE PLANNING HOW TO ESCAPE

That's my opinion

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>>54538696
>>54538829
The fact that a corpo can use a vtubers image for anything without their say really feels like the dark side of vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

They obviously go to these kinds of parties anyways. They're all rich charismatic women.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54539313
Better cancel merchs and sponsorships then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54539103
>matsuri: homo collaber, slutty
>marine: not homo collaber, slutty
>chloe: not homo collaber, slutty
>mel: homo collaber, slutty
>towa: homo collaber, not slutty
>fubuki: homo collaber, not slutty
>mel: homo collaber, slutty
>aqua: not homo collaber, not slutty
>mio: not homo collaber, not slutty
>flare: not homo collaber, not slutty
what correlation do you see anon?

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>>54539313
That's the entertainment industry as a whole you dumbas

[Anonymous No.]

>>54539395
I mean if the merch or sponsorship is something that the talent feels doesn't coincide with their brand, then yes they should cancel it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54539136
Link?

[Anonymous No.]

>>54539449
>>54539313
That's why I brought up the fact that Cover always asks their talents first to see who voluntarily wants to participate in any given thing. I can't remember the last time they've done something like this, so I'm confused.
>>54539395
Read above. They ask the girls, they don't force them to sponsor anything. They might pressure them but ultimately they have the right to turn it down.

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>>54538386
Yes, and the holos are the drivers of their own brands, doing shit like this is a quick way to leading the whole company into trash

[Anonymous No.]

>>54539098
only an anti would support cover forcing a single chuuba to do something she didn't approve of just because it gives you a boner. we only support boners with consent here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54539572
Dunno the link, saw the image over on /jp/ hlg

[Anonymous No.]

>>54539313
It really depends on the context. There's no reasonable objection to selling some vanilla, inoffensive merch of them at fair prices, but producing something that goes against the image they want to give off makes me uncomfortable.

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>>54537418
Heh i can't wait for orgy fanarts that come out from this mv

[Anonymous No.]

>>54539843
It honestly feels like the homobeggar debacle scared them so badly they went 100% the other way with it, and fucked it up twice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54539103
you're such a faggot that you see dozens of girls in swimsuits and directly think of men with their dick out

get some help

[Anonymous No.]

I know you're reading, Cover interns.

>Swimsuits
Good.
>3DPD
Not good.

Write it down, report to your superiors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54539768
>schizo rambling, Japan

[Anonymous No.]

>>54540103
it's rambling but it's not schizo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54540072
>RTX
Middle ground. Too easy to be uncanny valley. Plus, you absolutely need the right kind of talent to pull it off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54539768
Thank you!

[Anonymous No.]

>>54538518
for fucks sake that image.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54539748
Yeah, they should scrap a project with 10 girls because one feels bad about it.
Sure sounds like how a serious company would be run.
How about burning money straight in front of their investors' faces?

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>>54537418
I just wanted to have vanilla beach scenes...

[Anonymous No.]

>>54540349
dont talk like a redditor.
swimsuits are good. too much cooming in the MV and nobody asked for 3D, though not THAT offensive

[Anonymous No.]

>>54540469
Wait, this is important.
Was the griping girl complaining about the swimsuits or the 3DPD? Important distinction here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54540163
I don't know your definition of schizo, but it's certainly retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54540501
Seriously, having a house party with a bajillion bikini girls and a limousine is not the summer I had in mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54540561
>"don't talk like a redditor"
>immediately talks like a redditor
Are we being raided?

[Anonymous No.]

>>54540577
Why is it retarded? Because his opinion doesn't match yours?

[Anonymous No.]

>>54540618
Me neither, but I don't have the kind of money to even think about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54540072
>interns
Only long term high level staff with sufficient authority can engage in this costly project without seeking approval from their talents

[Anonymous No.]

>>54540746
Even if I was a trillionaire I'd be much happier watching cute girls be cute on a beach

[Anonymous No.]

>>54540762
>thinking they do their own work

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>>54537418
Prude anons should get off /vt/ and go back to church. That video was fucking kino.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537540
Towa is a known hater of males of course.

[Anonymous No.]

qrd?

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537694
Wow

Marine is almost at 2.5 million. When did that happen?

[Anonymous No.]

>>54541005
So kino they regretted doing it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54540700
No, because it basically boils down to "the MV makes them look like high-class prostitutes".

[Anonymous No.]

An MV with the girls playing around in swimsuits is a great idea. But the song wasn't good, the 3D women showing up was completely jarring and the whole vibe was just kinda wrong.
That said it's not the fucking end of the world, just move past it and make the next one better.

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>>54541167
And you think that is retarded because..? Also thinking that MV was too obscene isn't the same as saying they looked like prostitutes in it, you are just exaggerating his words.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54541394
This. Its definitely not the end, but its jarring given how hololive has been.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537418
Welcome to new Cover, now not only incompetent, but also evil. The IPO should've been your hint that there's no turning back anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54538518
>pic
almost got me anon, kek

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>>54537418
i love how the bootlicking faggots are completely forgetting the fact that corpos are still going to corpo in order to appease shareholders even if it's against their talent's wishes. welcome to the real world

[Anonymous No.]

>>54540469
Who said anything about scrapping the entire project retard? Are you faggots entirely incapable of not thinking in extremes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>54541502
I swear it feels like they freaked over the male collabs bombing and went super hard the other direction, too far even.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537418
I don't need another kanauru shitpost but yeah mv was shit

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>>54541166
Anon, they are grown fucking women. They were shown the video, asked if they were okay with it, had 2 weeks to voice any complaints they may have had, and it still went through. That's on them at that point.

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>>54541394
Can someone provide the link? I dont even know what you guys are talking about

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537418
The MV was good until they reached that pool

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>>54537418
I am going to assume that this whole thing was Marine's idea and thats why it got OK'd.
This is my rrat until more info gets out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54540652
point out the word, yours was middle ground - faggot

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>>54541605
Okay? Chances are nobody raised a voice because they felt like they'd ruin 8 other people's MV due to only them being uncomfortable, it's a tough situation for them.

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>>54541394
Yeah pretty much. Some anons are acting like a few of the girls being confused about it and some not liking it means the company's suddenly irreversely going down the shitter. Nobody will remember this thing except to mock it in a few months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54541680
>nobody asked for
If you accuse someone of what you do, you never need to defend yourself, amirite?

[Anonymous No.]

>>54541561
Do you think that shit took a couple of days to produce? You're deluded.

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>>54541570
Well its balance: you have to be lewd, but to a degree

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>>54541651
Marine said they were all shown the project 2 weeks before release retard read the fucking thread you are in

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>>54538386
Cover always advertised itself as a talent agency that allows each talent to develop their own image as they see fit. Just compare this to Bloom which was heavily advertised as a project where the talents were involved in every step of the creative process, from the concept, to the imagery, to the music to the live itself. It's the difference between treating talents as the ones responsible for building the brand and treating them as paid actors executing whatever the company thinks is most marketable. The latter philosophy is the one that propelled hololive into success, the former is the one that's turning it into a another soulless corporate blob indistinguishable from the sea of garbage that tries to surf the vtuber trend and the reason hololive is already virtually dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54541702
Couldn't they have communicated to try and reac an agreement instead of letting it pass based on assuming the others want it to happen?

[Anonymous No.]

>>54541879
that's what happens when you're company goes public

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>>54537418
it was more confusing than anything with the meat girls and the random Marine, if anything I want a towaless version

[Anonymous No.]

>>54541702
Yes because talking about it amongst themselves is not possible, asking how each of them feel is not possible, and asking that they put someone else in your place is impossible in this 50-girl company.

Anon, I get that women don't like taking responsibility for themselves, but yeah.

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>>54541879
>Virtually dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>54541968
Hololive girls? Communicate with eachother?

[Anonymous No.]

>>54542246
pardon the pun

[Anonymous No.]

>>54541851
Exactly! Anybody can look up free porn. But you have to have something extra if you want people to donate to you for a swimsuit.

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>>54539768
wow japanese fans are vocal about the new MV and they are not happy. they're discontented with the way everyone acted and the whole 3DPD. I guess they were holding out hope for a tasteful 2D video. there's even a petition that's garnered thousands of signatures to have the chapter changed. obviously that won't happen but it shows how unhappy they are.

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>>54541651
Holy retard

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>>54542289
I mean, the video has 24K likes and I assume the majority of people who have seen it are Japanese. So, I'm guessing these "Japanese fans" you speak of are basically just 4ch dudes whose opinions are meaningless anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

"About the way the music video for "Avantur Waholic" expresses itself
First of all, I think the song is good. The title "Avanture" means "playing with fire" or "adventure in love" in French, and "Holic" means "infatuation" or "dependence" in English. The title of the song, "Avanture" is French for "playing with fire" or "adventure in love", and "Holic" is English for "passion" or "dependence". I felt that the song was intended to express the atmosphere and sexiness of adults, which is understandable when you look at the selected members. However, I was disappointed in the way the music video was presented. The first is the participation of live-action women. I think this is controversial1; since all the members in charge of singing are wearing swimsuits this time, I think it is unnecessary. The second is the blatant depiction of the members, and this point is the most significant. I can understand the shooting in a night pool to create an adult atmosphere, but the scenes where each member takes off their costumes and the ped scene are unconvincing. Even if the purpose is to express the allure of adults, I think the scenes are too explicit or too direct, and it is not surprising that the scenes could be considered as sexual depictions even if they are intended to be sexy. I felt as if the girls were being gutted for being idols. This explicit expression gave a vulgar impression.
I had enjoyed the show several times before, when it was so flippant that it might be a "sensitive depiction". However, this time, the way of expression seemed to me to have gone too far. Last year, the swimsuits came back and Hololive Summer became a major event of Hololive, which has been selling idols through EXPO, Fes, and LI Kiri San, and has become popular among the public. However, after watching this music video, you may think that they are just selling their bodies. It is a shame that the management produced this music video, but it is important to raise awareness of the members with innovative ideas.
Finally, some of you may think that if you are dissatisfied with the music video, you shouldn't post this kind of comment, and that's a fair opinion, but I'm one of the readers and I thought I would post this kind of comment to give some feedback to the management. I am sorry if I have offended any of you by reading this."
- DeepL

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>>54542289
>there's even a petition that's garnered thousands of signatures to have the chapter changed.
where cause i'll sign that shit? i dont like 3dpd shit getting inserted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54542679
>>54542908
newfags

[Anonymous No.]

>>54542289
Link to petition?

[Anonymous No.]

I bet some, like Towa, would not have agreed if they had know what the MV was gonna be. The dumb idol tricks in the stream was fun. That MV was some nigger mtv shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54542788
He is 'spitting facts', as the kids say.

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>>54537418
>Honestly I just hope this get memoryholed and they never hire this guy again.
Same, it's not a huge deal but it leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Looks like even some of the holos want to forget about it. Also what the fuck is that RTX Marine?
>>54543148
Yeah if anything it's extremely out of place for anything cover related. It didn't feel like I was watching an official hololive thing at all.

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>>54543275
>not a huge deal
Not a huge deal that cover can just do whatever without the talents having a say in it? Fuck that, if this was done without their consent then I hope whomever was responsible for this get his shit shoved in, fired and sued to hell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54543275
>Yeah if anything it's extremely out of place for anything cover related
I hope they get even sluttier, personally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54543442
I don't get how people aren't realising the implications this has for cover going forward, it's fucking abhorrent

[Anonymous No.]

>>54538792
>That's why Miguel Gato just necromanced the fuck out of Rushia some days ago.

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>>54543442
>Not a huge deal that cover can just do whatever without the talents having a say in it?
Yes, because holos are already expressing their discomfort, fans are already complaining, and Cover historically doesn't pull off shit like this. I don't really worry about them suddenly having turned permanently into a black company just because of a random fuck up.

But yes, the director of this shit should be fired.

[Anonymous No.]

Mel instead of Towa, 0 problems and more yuribait

[Anonymous No.]

>>54543652
see >>54541770

[Anonymous No.]

>>54543746
Towa is not the issue, she's already a slut anyway. The problem is every talent is a potential subject to this kind of treatment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54543810
>Towa
>slut
>the holo who holds the most issues with it

[Anonymous No.]

Lots of bootlickers here

[Anonymous No.]

>>54543810
Was this an internal trolling/humiliation ritual?

[Anonymous No.]

>>54543652
>>54543681
Reminder that Mori found out she had a fully modeled something between her legs during one of her MV recordings. Someone at Cover is pulling some fucked up shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54544097
Something is rotten in the state of Cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537418
The MV was definitely not what I think of when it comes to Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

We have to rape everyone its the only way
R a p e
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everywhere i go i must rape

[Anonymous No.]

I can't imagine being a corporate bootlicker

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537418
I just watched this abomination, the actual stream was kino and the right amount of sex but the MV was trashy, the lyrics, the 3DPD the implications of all the holos driving to some resort to have a steamy hookup because they can't hold it in anymore and after all it's summer teehee. What the fuck were they thinking?
The Marine model made me laugh I guess.

I hope they memoryhole this MV but also don't course correct too hard in the other direction, I want holo summer to be sexy. Just not trashy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537418
The beginning of mass graduation

[Anonymous No.]

>>54544509
Why couldn't we just have cute girls with big boobs playing on a beach. What's so wrong with that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537418
mv got fucking weird vibes man but yet again i'm not from erolive era. at least last year erosummer was good though

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537540
>>54537585
Damn, this could become a yab for Cover and hololive members don't normally get that upset. Sounds like they were tricked into this and I wondered how many of them were okay with some of these lewd projects.

>>54538518
>No wonder this HoloSummer was pretty spicy. The girls had no input and that is a good thing.
Anons on /vt/ can make stupid joke about teaching prudes a lesson but even a Japenese corpo should know that making their talents feel degraded is going to cause long term problems. I always figured that sexualized outfits was a major problem with holoEN but it seems like some of the JP talents are getting tired of being promoted on sex appeal. Marine is one of the talents most willing to put up with coomerbait so it's a red flag that even she was angry with management over the MV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54544567
Hopefully that is the direction they go with the rest of this, that MV should be nuked though and never mentioned again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54544179
Honest question, have you seen some of the old 2018-2019 material? Its nothing like this video certainly but there has been some rather raunchy/suggestive moments before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54544786
I would have agreed with it having weird vibes but after finding some deleted video from 2019 where Choco simulated rubbing her feet all over fans but used a watermelon as a stand-in...Erolive had its wild moments back in the day.

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>>54545199
Big difference between that and the seedy escort vibes of this MV though, that was the problem for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54545365
yeah saw a jp comment saying only oldfags wouldn't be surprised by it and i am inclined to agree

[Anonymous No.]

>>54541460
it's ok to be obscene. only ulgy people complaing about it.

[Anonymous No.]

how to tell if you are an oldfag or newfag, does this filter you as badly as the MV today?
https://files.catbox.moe/as27xy.webm

[Anonymous No.]

>>54539768
>>54540700
You need to fucking scroll down for 15 minutes to see the negative Japanese comments on youtube.
The Japs are down voting these guys into oblivion. Basically only 4chan and 5ch shizos are sperging.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537585
>all these EOPs having a melty
someone give me a translation or you’re all exposed for being retarded dramaniggers yet agains

[Anonymous No.]

>>54543275
>Looks like even some of the holos want to forget about it
Which holo said that?

[Anonymous No.]

We are talking about the MV that followed the girls showing off their asses to the camera, right

[Anonymous No.]

>>54545631
No because it's in character. The MV isn't. Everyone is complicating the whole conversation when it can basically just be boiled down to that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54545631
No cause it doesn't have random 3DPD and it's not a shitty MMD

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537418

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>>54545818
Yes nobody had a problem with the actual stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>54545631
oldfag here, you are a retard

[Anonymous No.]

It's cute how they're so small and funny compared to their surroundings. At least the first two minutes are good

[Anonymous No.]

>>54545900
So is this a bit we're doing

[Anonymous No.]

>>54545647 (me)
I just checked a bunch of their accounts and the guys going "this is what Hololive is now about huh" are following fucking kuzuha.
Not sure why I didn't see this coming. Wonder how many people in this thread are nijinogs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54545818
It’s still really bad MV, regardless of the shenanigans before

[Anonymous No.]

Why are we mad about coomerbait? Hasn't Hololive been doing this since the start basically? I remember the being a dopey beach thing last year that I barely paid attention to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537418
Yes they should give us more swimsuit options instead of renting out all that for an mv.

[Anonymous No.]

Mommy is stripping!

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537418
I still don't understand why the inclusion of that Honey Select looking model. Shit felt like a fever dream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54546190
I like that part.

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>>54545946
No I unironically hated the MV but loved the stream. Why is that hard to believe? Cute girls doing fanservice was great, I wanted it to be lewd. The MV hit all the wrong notes for different reasons even if had some decent parts >>54546190

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>>54546190
the only good part of the MV

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>>54546350
So you're mad because it's obvious that they had no real input in what was happening with their models? I highly doubt anybody but the most retarded coomers are gonna talk to them about this, this is just some stupid fanservice. Enjoy your Oshi getting slutty for a minute, and imagine it's for (you).

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>>54546102
Because it's like a woman having ignored you for years suddenly jumping on your lap and trying to force your limp penis in while demanding you give up your credit card.
We already know there's going to be corporate problems down the line if they keep this up, too? Why get hopeful for something we know is going to get hard stopped in the future?

[Anonymous No.]

Chances are they just commissioned something and whoever was in charge of vetting it didn't care and they didn't have time to change it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54542679
>>54542908
>>54543040

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>>54546518
>homobeggars, the loudest about, "talent's choosing," is now defending them being unknowingly turned into sluts
You can NOT make this shit up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54546190
>Implied prostitution
Hot as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54546599
How does anything in my post imply an interest in male/female collabs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>54546190
Nani the fuck is going on with Fauna's left thigh at 0:14?

[Anonymous No.]

>>54545946
That’s what almost everyone has been doing

We are used to Marine, Choco, etc. doing stuff like this. It’s just the MV is really really bad, from the bad movements, the lack of coordination, and the random shit that even distracts from the slutty song

[Anonymous No.]

>>54546190
Goddd its so cringgee ahhh xD

[Anonymous No.]

I honestly would have given zero fucks if not for the weird inclusion of real women towards the end. I mean, there's also a few parts that just look like absolute shit. I'll be happy to listen to what Reine has to say about it.

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>>54546518
Put it this way, lose the limo driving them to some high rent hotel like someone hired a bunch of escorts and have them stripping off to go to the beach or something instead, lose the 3DPD (why??), lose the trashy lyrics about being desperate to hook up and lose the marine model and I probably would have enjoyed it. It was slutty in all the wrong ways for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54546190
the motion was pretty cringe, the movements were weird, it was cringe to watch. they tried but the undressing scene was so horrible. what the fuck is everyone doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537585
This is why letting Cover use skinwalkers because their girls are unfit leads to dark roads like this

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>>54546958
Fair enough. I gave it a full watch past looking at the posts and webms getting posted everywhere. It's pretty fucking weird. Sad part is there's some really sexy Reine and Fauna moments that activate everything in me.

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>>54546984
Well, I appreciate their effort. The issue is it's very OBVIOUSLY a mix of motion capture AND animation, and they're both rushed and/or not fully informed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54547082
Yeah I liked a lot of the moments with the girls but the context of the whole thing just ruined it for me. Maybe I am in the minority but it's how I feel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54546958
>Lose the everything
Based. Sweep this MV under the rug and create a new one where they're enjoying their time at the beach playing in the sea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54542679
>>54542908
>>54543040
Fucking newfags

[Anonymous No.]

>Flirting: OK
>Some Stripping: OK
>Fanservice: VERY OK
>Song Theme of Sex/Romance: OK

>Using real footage of women: WTF
>Using talents who would obviously disagree: WTF

The Marine model needed work, but I like the theory. I hope they explore it a bit more. (Mostly because it'll encourage them to improve the models, too.)

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>>54541830
I'll be honest, yes it does. It's so fucking shitty there is no way this took that long. I have seen better stuff from some rando youtuber.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54547180
No, that's pretty much exactly where I am. Fauna throwing off her top really activates my almonds, but the MV as a whole feels like I wandered into Iwara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54542788
This reads like GPT4

[Anonymous No.]

>>54547508
>>Flirting: OK
>>Some Stripping: OK
>>Fanservice: VERY OK
no, end your life coombrain

[Anonymous No.]

>>54548976
Well, it's translated by DeepL, so...

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>>54549125
Oh look. It's another feminist that adopted puritanical values. Truly a twisted timeline.

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>>54545631
No, this is based and kino

[Anonymous No.]

>>54542289
>JP: we like making porn of the girls
>also JP: no, not like that!
retards

[Anonymous No.]

>>54549217
No, I just dont want softcore porn in an idol music video
I watch hololive to steer clear of this shit

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>>54547096
the whole state of planning felt rushed. If they wanted them to pose sexier they could've done more for it. They look like awkward sardines.

They did try for sure. It's what they've wanted since the original summer song.

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>>54537540
that thread has posts saying Towa had a menhara rant 2 weeks ago on her RM twitter, anyone have the link to that rant?

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>>54544097
source on this?

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>>54550658
https://youtu.be/xwCv9xVY0wE

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>>54550751
Wew fucking lad.

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>>54550751
can't wait for the porn game featuring that model.
and I'm guessing nobody has an image of what it actually looks like, since they obviously kept that scene out of the MV...

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>>54550751
based Yagoo running a VR soapland side huslte

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>>54550172
I don't hate the effort, but it does feel like several people were involved trying to push their own ideas into it and not coordinating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54551145
based

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>>54551145
BASED AF

[Anonymous No.]

This video will definitely be a yab and hopefully a lesson. If you wanna whore out your girls at least do it with taste like the first holo summer. Being whored out like in a cheap uncreative MV gotta feel wrong for the girls

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>>54552506
Its not a yab. The style was just cringe. They dont hire into the next generation in Nippon company. It was an ojisan director.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537418
lmao what a whore company

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>>54552506
end result is the same

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>>54537418
Honnestly, yes it was bad, actually bad. The thema was weird, the 3DPD is a big no no never again thank you, the felshgirl were uneeded. Also the quality was honnestly bad. I personnaly will forgot it ever existed.

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>>54550414
Stop fishing to get someone else banned

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>>54537418
So Fauna just randomly disappearing for a week and a half "to do work" after talking about stream plans makes more sense. This MV was very off brand for her (and Kronii), so I am not surprised she just fucked off without a word as protest

[Anonymous No.]

Actually the MV is ok because it's ok when Hololive does it and all the girls complaining are wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

It's just part of an ongoing tendency to try and "normalize" vtubers, i.e. expand beyond the otaku market and make it more acceptable to normalfag audiences. If you thought it was cool seeing the increased frequency with which they interview or are interviewed by 3DPD personalities, appear on 3DPD tv shows and other media with 3DPD people or collab with 3DPD streamers, then you are also supporting this shit.

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>>54546190
which PS1 game is this

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>>54555287
>It's just part of an ongoing tendency to try and "normalize" vtubers, i.e. expand beyond the otaku market and make it more acceptable to normalfag audiences. If you thought it was cool seeing the increased frequency with which they interview or are interviewed by 3DPD personalities, appear on 3DPD tv shows and other media with 3DPD people or collab with 3DPD streamers, then you are also supporting this shit.
This.
>Make hololive the biggest vtuber agency in the planet
>hololive becomes a publicly traded company
>market focus starts to shift outwards

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>>54555103
like that whore would have a problem with this

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>>54555287
It's just not going to work. Japan is a tapped-out market. Yeah, Hololive is big there, but it's cooling off everywhere else. And how much more can they squeeze the Japanese market?
If they try for a drastic switch like this, they're not only going to lose their loyal fans (who want absolutely NOTHING to do with normies), but they're not going to gain any normies, either. If they manage to, it'll be TwiXter activists who will only stick around for as a long as it takes to break it, then bounce. gwgb
I don't know man. Not looking great.

[Anonymous No.]

Still crazy to me that they did this without all of the girls approving. That's just wrong. These girls have to live with whatever the damage of a video is. They should at least get to see the basic premise and approve or not approve.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54555287
If they want to go bigger, they have to reinitiate their off-stream brands, like VSingers or other artistry like games in Hololive Alternative, and actually hire talents with talent.
They are simply never going to get normies abroad to take in Hololive streaming.

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>>54555591
I don't think we're anywhere near the ceiling for vtubing in japan. It's kind of the perfect thing for most public facing jobs to transition to incorporate some kind of vtubing component.

Given it's an aging populace whose biggest cultural export at this point is anime.

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>>54555720
That's also why they're not going to grow it much more outside of Japan. Their populace is older and can't connect with younger generations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54555649
towa and kronii and fauna should graduate out of protest

[Anonymous No.]

>>54555459
Cry more Unicuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>54555720
Modern anime is trash, though. It's starting to cater to special interests groups, lost a LOT of quality, and the stories are heavily watered down. You don't see shit like Crying Freeman anymore. You get Isekai #3589 and you CONSUME AND LIKE IT, CONSUMER.

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>>54555696
there's a good chance Holocure is about to do a lot of work for them. It hits steam on the 17th of next month, and big name streamers like Asmongold already reacted to the trailer. His impression was basically "this looks really good, I will try it when it comes out, how is this free and not making tons of money". If the big streamers play it, tons of fans of theirs will jump to it, which will get the word about the game out, which will get the whole gaming scene to know about it, and at that point it's just up to people going down the rabbit hole.

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>>54537418
Even for the more lewd holomems it really wasn't the kind of style they usually go forth. It's hard put to the vibe into words, but take someone like Marine, it's usually this tropey anime style of fanservice (often even played off as comedic, like Treasure Box is super lewd but completely different from this), whereas this made them look like random background girls in a western rap video if that makes sense. Hell, none of their characters even fit the scenario in the slightest, there was a complete disconnect between them and the theme of the mv.

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>>54555868
I will consume that pleasantly mind-numbing isekai. Thank you.

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>>54555591
>And how much more can they squeeze the Japanese market?
The irony is that so long as they pander to otakus they can squeeze out as much money as otakus (and just lonely single salarymen in general, let's be real) can feasibly put out and stay comfortably afloat for a long time, but they want to have their cake and eat it, so they'll end up losing both. Call me a pessimist or doomposter if you want, but it's becoming clearer and clearer that they're headed down this path, and the timing with the IPO is no coincidence.

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>>54555868
And don't get me started on video games.

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>>54537418
>hated
it was just more of a schizo dream than anything

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>>54555996
I'm not saying their profits are going to go down, but their growth has a hard ceiling to it.

>>54555896
Yes, but that's Kay Yu's work, a fan. This guy sound like a normie to you?

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>>54555896
>Holocure is literally about saving the fans.
>Hololive is actively trying to sell them out to the normie market.
OH no no no NO.

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>>54544097
I don't like mori by any definition, I'd even say I've anti'd her at times in the past. but that's just not on and way over the line.

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>>54556117
>Yes, but that's Kay Yu's work, a fan. This guy sound like a normie to you?
I have no clue what your point is. If Holocure blows up and becomes known in the public conscience as "one of the best vampire survivors games... and it's free" then it's going to expose millions of new people to Holocure in a setting where they might willingly learn more about Hololive to understand the lore of the game better. The game is unironically one of the best in the genre already and the next update seems to dial that to 11 with the mini stardew valley mode being added on, people eat that shit up.

It doesn't matter that Kay Yu isn't paid to make the game by Cover, he's about to give them a potentially huge boost in exposure in a way less intimidating than "just start watching the anime girl streams".

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>>54556432
I'd say it was a nice thing. With how fat mori is, this was the first time she's been able to see her own vagina, even if it was digital only.

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>>54544097
>>54550751
I mean, MAYBE this happened. MAYBE.
But she also spends more than 3/4 of her streams in her underwear now. It could just be her trying to fanservice or lure people in. Until someone gets fired (because let's be honest, a fully modelled vagina would be firing offense) I have hard doubts.

Like, you're going to sit there and tell me the two illustrators (concept/Live2D), the Live2D base designer, the Live2D dress designer, and the rigger all never noticed it? Her manager (who would presumably be handling the milestone sign offs) never once noticed? Or HER after using it for years and going through the settings on her live Live2D? ("Gee, what's this vagina slider for?")

I mean, come the fuck on.

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>>54555696
They probably realize that, but their latest music project with Universal was a huge flop and their biggest investment is fucking Holoearth.

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>>54556650
No, Holocure is already big and has been out for a year, bud. Exposure =/= normies consuming, anyway.
It's not boosting any further than it has now.

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>>54556768
Holoearth could be a really great thing if they figure out how to do live concerts in it, or integrate YouTube into it so they can stream and meet (hand-selected) fans. Or have general fan interaction with limited abilities (for obvious reasons).
Otherwise what's the point?

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>>54556886
holoearth is a brothel

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>>54556001
I WANT THAT TIFA TO CHOKE ME PLEASE

[Anonymous No.]

>>54556939
I mean, Holos are basically eGeisha as it is. So what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>54556939
More like a hanamachi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54556939
>>54556994
>my dream of getting smothered by the big tits in hololive while getting my ears licked is closer than ever
YES

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>>54556939
>>54557053
>inb4 "what is the diff"
If any of you dumb fucks are wondering what the difference is here, this is why Hololive should not reach out to normies at all.

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>>54556821
You have no clue what you're talking about. Actually read my other comment earlier this chain. Holocure is finally coming to Steam and not just itch.io, which by itself is going to rec the game to millions and millions of people. Asmongold (for the first time ever) saw the game with the version .6 trailer, and said he plans on playing it because it looks good. That also instantly accounts for millions of new people, Asmongold gets 60K-100K concurrent viewers on twitch and then even more when the VOD goes to youtube.

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>>54557127
>Read my previous ANONYMOUS comments
Back to X with you.

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>>54546665
Le homo boogeyman
i honestly dont care for stars but some people are mind broken by them

[Anonymous No.]

>>54557183
I get you're a complete newfag, but 4chan has a feature called "chains" where posts go back and forth in what is colloquially known as a "conversation".

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>>54557127
>Asmongold
Gross.

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>>54556886
That sounds great, but I still don't understand why they're throwing who knows how much time and resources into developing some Ark/Minecraft survival sim gameplay into it, not to mention the snail's pace and disorganized way with which they try to tie in some lore into it, which could have been great on paper if they'd actually kept up with it instead of releasing one random isolated thing per year.

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>>54537418
Shit this MV made me cringe hard instead of getting randy. Fuck. I liked the live stream better with Choco's ass.

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>>54557256
But you can't identify anyone with it, and even pretending you SHOULD means you SHOULD GO BACK.
Make a real argument already. Again, just because you made a game that exposed normies doesn't mean normies are going to jump on. Hell, look at all the forced shit Disney has tried lately, and they literally toppled right into "We have to sell our IPs now" territory.

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>>54555868
you don't watch anime

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>>54557273
Fan-Talent interaction is the future of streaming, honestly. It's why streaming got popular in the first place, because you could respond to comments.
This is actual innovation. Whether or not they pull it off (or know this is what they should do) is another matter entirely.

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>>54557380
I have definitely watched anime for far longer than you. Shit, I still remember when the term Japanimation wasn't slander. Go change your diaper.
>verification not required

[Anonymous No.]

>>54557378
>Can't follow two people talking with some other anons chiming in occasionally

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>>54556821
Untrue, I met with a friend after not seeing him for months and when we sat down to play some vidya he literally said "btw i've been playing this cool free game called holocure, i've no idea what it's about but it's fun as shit". Granted he's a big videogame nerd in the first place so he's not what I'd call part of the "normie audience", but he's never even remotely showed any interest in vtubers until that point and it genuinely caught me by surprise.

He mains Suisei.

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>>54557378
You really need more reading comprehension if you can't understand the concept that obviously "read my previous comment on the subject" refers to the single other comment in the thread about the topic, which is also the same chain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54557378
You are fucking retarded, he specifically said to read the posts in that chain. You need to go back where you came if you don't know what a chain is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54557615
>>54557552
>>54557543
Here comes the samefagging. One of you isn't, the other two are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54557639
>everyone that disagrees with me is samefagging
classic cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>54557639
what are you babbling about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>54557552
Does he work for Nintendo? Is he actually going to watch Suisei or just play the game and move on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>54557691
>>54557679
Can you namefag so I can filter you? Thanks.

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>>54557703
NTA (since some retard in this thread can't understand unless you state that directly) but the bigger the game grows the more likely it will start converting people. The game launching on Steam means there will be forums and reviews and discussions right there, and they will point people to the wiki for the game and the streams.

It's a number's game. Not everyone playing a vampire survivors clone will use the forum or wiki, but many will. Not many that check those places and see the IP is for vtubers and you will understand the game better if you check them out will actually go and check them out, but many will. It filters down, and when you're adding millions of new people to the game (like Steam will do 100%) then you're adding quite a lot to the general fandom even if the conversion rate isn't 1:1.

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>>54557703
Well I was not gonna miss the chance, so considering he's one of my closest friends and we can be weird together I showed him some of her live performances and gave him a rough idea of what hololive's about. I didn't go too in depth because that shit just turns people off, but he really liked her music and was surprised about the existence of this whole subculture. I don't know if he's now a fan or if he just has a good impression of hololive while watching from afar, but at the very least he's now fully aware of what hololive is and moreso after I showed him a bit more.
>>54557770
Stop replying to me already I have 0 interest in whatever you're rambling about.

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>>54557890
The conversion rate won't even be 1:10 or 1:50. Out of those numbers, less than 100 will donate, and less than 1:25 will donate more than $100.

Remmeber, YouTube is a lot bigger than Holocure. They're not going to more exposure than YouTube.

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>DMITRI JAP IS SO FUCKING BASED!!! HE’S SAVING HOLOLIVE BY PUTTING THE HOMOS IN THEIR PLACE!!!
>First piece of bad-looking soulless garbage rolls out, it turns the girls into Vshoujo tier whores and they don’t even like being in it, and it has none of the personality or charm of old Erolive stuff
Be careful what you wish for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54557991
So he's not a fan, which was the point of bringing up the game. Why even bring it up if it doesn't support your actual point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>54558030
you have never watched hololive
go watch the previous holosummers

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>>54558027
There's going to be hundreds of thousands of people playing Holocure day 1 (many will be existing players of course). It will be in Steam's trending tab and it will possibly even end up on the home page for some people.

Do you see the red circle in picrel? Holocure is going to show up there for people playing the other vampire survivors clones, and when people click to see what the game Steam thinks they will like is, they will see the game is free and has insanely positive reviews from holosimps. It's gonna explode in popularity.

>YouTube is a lot bigger than Holocure.

Yeah, and people watching non-vtuber shit don't get recced vtuber shit very often, and won't click it if they don't know what it is in the rare times they are recced it. When Steam says "hey I know you love Vampire Survivors, that hit game that took the world by storm, did you know a free game is doing really well at being better than it", people will listen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54558156
Come on, anon.
These antis will loose their mind if they see erolive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54558156
I have. If you think this MV has any of the soul they did you are delusional.

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>>54558208
Bruh, you are NOT paying attention.
VTubers are a SHRINKING market in the US, not growing. This isn't going to help. People have already been exposed to VTubing since COVID and they're STILL TURNING OFF.
Let it go, man. Even if they were catching the attention of the Western audience, that's NOT A GOOD THING. I would take exactly one day before you get people calling in for "insensitive" shit, demanding bans, changes, and other destructive shit.
Fuck the Western audience in general. They don't watch, and they won't watch unless they can ruin it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54558348
You know Steam exists outside of the US, right?

[Anonymous No.]

Monthly Nijisanji graduation deflection thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>54558406
So what? Are you saying the other western markets aren't just as toxic? Hell, Australia has a war on anime. Europe? LMAO, do I NEED to say anything?

[Anonymous No.]

FUCK THE WESTERN MARKETS
I'M NOT WATCHING HOLOLIVE FOR SHIT WESTERN VALUES

that is all

[Anonymous No.]

>>54558569
doompost all you want but vtubers are doing just fine and are set to do even better in the future.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54558733
Why does Mori say otherwise?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQF6Jm3u70U

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537418
What is the problems, only then whores participated in this.

Pekora, Sakura and Suisei who are seiso weren't there.

Towa who was probably already creampied by RPR was there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54559149
The problem is it looks like shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>54559271
It's got all the hallmarks of hand-crafted animation trying to look like mocap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54559149
>sakura
not now nijinigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537418
I find it funny that everyone is freaking out over the video showing what the girls are actually like. You really think none of them go clubbing? Get real. They are getting drunk and hooking up with random dudes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54559585
yeah me

[Anonymous No.]

>>54559585
I can't tell if this post is parody.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54556737
>>54550751
>>54551012
She said it wasn't actually there when they looked at it. The bending of the rig probably produced a weird crease or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54561338
Actually watch the video and pay attention. She said it wasn't there on her OTHER models. It was on the one in the MV they were working on. She said specifically that it was very detailed, meaning not just a crease but very obviously modeled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537418
This is what happens when you unironically say "it's okay when the japanese do it". They take you seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537418
Who made that MV? That pinoy/indo faggot who dances like a moron?

[Anonymous No.]

>>54566812
isn't that all of them

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537418
I hate myself so much right now. I can't believe how much of a conflicted faggot I'm being about this MV and now call'is model in that video has an actual vagina lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537949
It's funny how we memoryholed this 1984 fan instructions guideline.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537418
Just last year you faggots were complaining that Holosummer wasn't slutty enough. Now that they slut out you don't like it? Fucking retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537418
>>54537585
OP and the original comment is twisting the words.
Marine was just explaining how rushed everything was and joked that she wonders if towa will like the final product.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54569447
>these fries are pretty good but can i get some ketchup with them
>waiter empties three bottles over your head
Fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54542788
fucking based

[Anonymous No.]

>>54539413
Why did you count Mel twice?

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537418
>unicornfags seethe at the mere mention of men
>got a fucking MV of the girls acting like prostitutes seducing old men for money
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>54558648
>FUCK THE WESTERN MARKETS
Their stockholders would tell you otherwise anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54558348
>Fuck the Western audience in general. They don't watch
So all those people in that LA concert were all just from Japan then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>54544097
>Someone at Cover is pulling some fucked up shit.
you should probably ask Mr. Jap no?

[Anonymous No.]

you have pol mind rot if you can't enjoy fanservice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54572782
That old man? Me

[Anonymous No.]

>>54569777
You asked for it dumbfuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54537418
I feel so sorry for those poor women forced to work for an Idol vtuber company against their wills

[Anonymous No.]

>>54574363
I don't think being indie isn't any better, anon. Especially if they go low budget.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54569447
I didn't complain about that. I complained that they were copypasted prude bikinis on everyone and that it was a clear ploy to paywall everything and sell a ton of merch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54574767
I know I was being sarcastic

[Anonymous No.]

Its kind of funny seeing all the Americans seethe at hot girls in swimsuits. What circumcision does to a mf.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54574191
I asked for bikinis and fanservice at the beach not holos being picked up on a dingy street corner and taken to a resort to be fucked by the first guy with the "male hunters instinct" to take her.

[Anonymous No.]

>Erolive happened
>Can't handle Erolive
I'm starting to believe you guys simply like being contrarians

[Anonymous No.]

>>54541541
>even if it's against their talent's wishes
they signed the contract, no crying over spilt semen now

[Anonymous No.]

>>54578739
>I'm starting to believe you guys simply like being contrarians
Could it be a large portion of /vt/ is muslim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>54578739
I think that the way it was executed was retarded is the main reaction, ignoring all the Bait posts