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Question: Who gives a shit about lore? tell me one hololive vtuber that didn't stop giving a shit about the lore after one week? i don't get it

>> No.54303388

fanartists

>> No.54303488

>>54303279
just common place now, and for fanart / memes.

>> No.54303577

>>54303279
the twins are gonna play into their lore forever

>> No.54303687

>>54303279
>Who gives a shit about lore?
Vtubers who stick to their kayfabe and actually play a character without ever dropping it. EOPs don't know what that experience is like so I pity you anon.

>> No.54304131

>>54303577
unfortunately their western fanbase will force them to drop the lore

>> No.54304228

Mori to this day still does her best to talk about underworldian Japan and shit like that.

>> No.54304425

Lore is a good way to keep you going when you're starting I guess
Chuuba will have something to talk about and it's a shield because if you want to hide your true identity you're gonna need an origin story
It helps fan artists too and from a designer perspective having a theme is important

>> No.54304453

>>54303279
Depends on the kind of lore
The stuff that sticks long term is simple stuff that's easy and flexible to play around with. Like for example you have an animal type character, they're usually good with keeping up with that because it's not much effort. Okayu still sticks to being a cat, Korone still remembers she's a dog, etc.
Another way some talents can keep up aspects of their lore is if it's something they actually relate to, identify with, think is worthwhile etc. Most often this happens with organic self-made lore, not the shit that was forced on your character by some outside comittee.
Because the worst kind of lore that usually gets dropped the fastest is when you're burdened with someone else's overwrought chuuni fanfiction setting. Like how Omegatroon had this whole cosmic level elder god universe shit (with him conveniently at the top, lmao) planned out for Council, but no one really did anything with it in the long term and in the end they pretty much all just naturally defaulted to being just another normal vtuber girls who play minecraft and mario kart and shit.

>> No.54304609

>>54303279
Lore is helping hold the line against ethottery

>> No.54304812

>>54303279
Kiara was given a fucked up mishmash joke of a design (like seriously, what was whoever came up with this shit smoking? Idol who's also phoenix who's also part-time warrior who's also a fast food owner?!), and she kind of made the best out of the shit hand she was dealt, leaned heavily into the fast food owner part of the lore and it's now an essential part of her character and the relationship with her fanbase, forming a strong bond between her as the "boss" and KFP as the "employees".

>> No.54305071

>>54303279
Serves as a conversation topic for newbies. Once they get confortable with streaming they drop it

>> No.54305597

>>54303279
Lore can be awesome if the streamer can kayfabe properly. But most EN streamers don’t really do it for some reason

>> No.54305677

Lore is what separates a fleshtuber and a vtuber. A vtuber without lore, so that you can disassociate the actress from her character, is just another egirl riding a fad.

>> No.54305936

>>54304812
It was a fun design anon. Just like most of the vtuber designs were before they became another generic way to sell merch.

>> No.54305955

>>54304812
She also did a revival stream when she got suspended once. It just gets picked up when it presents itself.
Like Watame and Botan playing around with prey and predator.

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>>54303279
People who want vtubers to be anime basically, which is point-blank retarded on its face and belies a fucking poor understanding of the format and/or being stupid faggot kids who literally don't think things through and just blurt out some stupid idea that won't work. Omega was that stupid kid turned into a stupid chuuni manchild and stupidly given power and it's taken a year+ to undo his retardation. Probably everything wrong with Myth was his fault too like Kiara's stupid debuff design etc.

These L2D models can barely fucking talk/emote and can only wiggle their torsos, they are talking heads with no preset plot/connections besides just (online) socializing with each other in public. In terms of what kind of anime you can do with socializing talking cute/comedic heads, that is flat-out gonna be like moe/SoL/iyashikei series, ones with not 1 frame of action sequence or complex plot etc. Vtubing is the way it is because it reflects what is feasible to do without putting in massive effort into extra materials/background staff. Until AI can seamlessly generate it, you can't have animated sequences etc just made for random streams.

You'll never have vtuber Fate or vtuber Naruto with how L2Ds currently work. It's not like the lore is useless, it's more like it just explains a bit about the designs and maybe can give a couple fun gimmicks that may or may not last the test of time. Most of them don't, because a chuuba often evolves into her own thing that usually wasn't related to the lore. Nothing about Rushia, Coco, Korone at all was apparent from or suggested by their lore, those are/were self-made identities. The lore isn't even like a mold for them to fill in, it's just a physical border that technically would get in the way from Korone saying she's a cat vtuber or something because no, she's clearly a dog etc. Or for Peko to look at her char and go "ok so I'm a rabbit. that means put carrots n shit all over the place for my chat BG and animations." That's kind of all it really does and it ain't fucking much. On the other hand, you have pic related, who truly does actually adhere closely to her lore - it's kinda neat but just gets in the way of Luna being more personal/open technically, and she is literally unique in Hololive for it. So if Omega wanted Council to be 5 Lunas, well that was gonna be a tough sell to get all the girls to go along and probably always will be.

>> No.54306601

>>54303279
Chammers took lore in a whole direction of its own. Ollie plays up being a zombie. Luna, Miko, Korone. Basically, all the GOAT chuubas.

>> No.54306834

>>54303279
Luna

>> No.54307268

all i know is I hat lore because when I got into hololive around the time of the azur lane collab I genuinely thought Korone worked in a bakery irl. I may be retarded but it was plausible enough to be true.

>> No.54307513

>>54303279
both watame, Korone and Pekora use their themes and self made kayfabe to be the best v tubers around

>> No.54308309

>>54303279
lore is just flavor text for people to jump off of that attracts people if done right. Even subaru admitted that her duck meme persona gets her more attention and jobs than she ever did as sports team manager.
Seriously why would anyone want to be a niji streamer where the vast majority are normal person or schoolgirl/boy?

>> No.54308344

>>54303279
Bro? Your kino live?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LaDuoHDC_g

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>>54303279
Sana
she stuck to the kayfabe until her graduation
you can say about her what u want, back hurt, dead dog, etc. but at the end of the day, this is the one thing she did better than anyone else

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>>54303279
>tell me one hololive vtuber that didn't stop giving a shit about the lore after one week? i don't get it
Nearly 6 years.

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>>54303279
redditors do

>> No.54317485

The simple lore is the best lore. Don't like the faggots that have to make lore videos or have overly complicated lore like Council.

>> No.54317810

>>54304228
>That one time she used "demons" to refer to black people at her Applebees
That's the kind of lore commitment I need

>> No.54320904

>>54303279
i do it's fun
give me more mecha to draw goddamnit

>> No.54322979

They all care about their lore when they wanna dodge questions:
- My age? I'm 4 billion years old
- What was I doing? Had to take care of my priestess duties.
- My political views? As a concept of chaos I don't care for any of that

>> No.54323696

>>54303279
The lore is just meme fuel, you mix the lore with whatever the talent is doing and it spouts out memery back and forth. Like how Laplus being small but melting for certain dudes unironically makes her character recreate some well known anime tropes or how Ame's time travel/detective background makes her the Holo to point at when events don't match. Or how Towa being a devil does a massive continuous gap moe play because she is everything but menacing.

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