/asp/ Aspiring Vtuber and Startup

[Anonymous No.]

What is /asp/?
A thread where we discuss our vtuber aspirations! Whether it's agency-based or independent, let's help each other grow and make it as entertainers. Indies are welcome to join, but shill responsibly. Share what knowledge, insights, what works/doesn't work for you. Remember to do your research before providing personally identifying information to companies online!

FAQ:
Do I need an expensive, fully rigged Live2D model to be a vtuber?
No! You can always start out as a pngtuber!

Where can I learn how to Live2D rig avatars?
Check out Brian Tsui's (of Iron Vertex) YouTube channel!

Where can I find artists/riggers?
Skeb.jp, ArtStation, DeviantArt, Twitter, Reddit, etc.

Where can I learn how to digital market myself?
https://learndigital.withgoogle.com/digitalgarage

Where can I find some good games to stream?
https://twitchtracker.com/games
https://sullygnome.com/

Twitch or Youtube?
Multistream to both.

RESOURCES:
General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
OpSec Guide: https://pastebin.com/2mkc8x9P

Stay grounded, stay hopeful. Don't kill yourself yet

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[Anonymous No.]

>decide to go live
>internet shits itself
>do a speed test
fuck comcast

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294931
Are you plugged in or on wifi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294950
that's my plugged in ethernet, kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294966
Oof yeah fuck Comcast. I was going to suggest a powerline adaptor but there's no solving that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294931
absolutely fuck comcast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294724
>asp
aspergers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5296291
thats the joke. very observant

[Anonymous No.]

>>5296291
That's the joke

[Anonymous No.]

Asking from the last thread, but does anyone know of a way to allow people to use follows/subs/donations to go towards a poll?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5296816
there is no ready made bot I know of, you're going to have to learn to code or plop down money

[Anonymous No.]

>>5296816
if you're thinking of one like the GDQ streams do, they have a custom developed solution done by SupportClass but they are not cheap and usually just work for big even streamers like GDQ or Overwatch League

[Gael !StRaTUSD32 No.]

Is there a list of you I can check out?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5296906
>>5297778
Right now my plan is to take their choice down and update it, but I was hoping something a bit more elegant would be available. Right now I'm just assigning point values to those actions.

[Anonymous No.]

This is essentially a blog-post, so tell me to fuck off haha.

I'm with a company and I'm waiting to debut.
I have friends in Japan who are successful vtubers but I'm westerner and I will always be that to them even if we are friends. Because of this I've been trying to make friends in western spheres, so I joined an ENVtuber discord server under an alt account to get to know them before I come in as my actual chuuba but so far, they're the biggest bunch of snowflakes I've ever met on the internet and start drama at the drop of the hat. Crying about invalidating pronouns because someone told them "everyone on the internet is a guy" as a joke and being super super sensitive and dislikeable "male moe characters are for pedophiles!", and I just don't know what to do or even where to go to connect with people. If you're starting up, I thought you would try and be likeable or even charismatic to network but these people are just.. the bottom of the barrel.

On Twitter, most indies seem to be about leeching numbers and on discord, they're mainly vtweeters with 0 talent or a likeable personality. I'm not sure what to do here. To be honest, I'm lonely and setting up to do this as a full-time thing is scary. Self-doubt is normal, but I'm reincarnating and I have horror images in my mind of 4 people being there for my debut.

I'm the only one in my generation, but I love my company a lot.

I'm already on a payroll for a company and they care enough to make me want to try my absolute hardest, they have legitimate sponsers and investors and they're really aiming for something high. I know in likelihood we're going to be overlooked because of the market oversaturation and being a start-up, but what is shaking my confidence even more, is that these EN people who are aspiring vtubers are just horrendous and it makes me wonder if I'll be forever alone in the industry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5298925
as least put on a trip so i can filter you out next time, snowflake

[Anonymous No.]

>>5298268
there's this list and if you need names, from left to right its:
>Row 1: Elliott Ambers, GyaruGarou, BALBc_Odette, AkashiTheImmortal, NaoktVT (currently rebranding), GoldenKenji
>Row 2: Bodega_rrat, bucher_geist (teruterubozu), Cadence Harper, Tomakeys, Power Nelson, Callie Calico
>Row 3: Kaji Oniyama, Ah Ringe, IberoCorporis, Cocobungus, Retsubol

[Anonymous No.]

>>5298925
>I'm the only one in my generation
>they have legitimate sponsers and investors
Huh

[Gael !StRaTUSD32 No.]

>>5299089
I was told there was some kind of drama involving Cadence Harper?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294931
I have Comcast, speed's fine. Maybe you live in the middle of nowhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5299811
Drama? Nah she just had a hardcore gosling and he blew a gasket when she collabed with a guy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5299615
most companies aren't paying their talents regularly

[Anonymous No.]

>>5299906
God those people that think a vtuber is "theirs" are sick in the head. Hopefully I'll never have anyone like that. Not going for BFE anyway, but I can't tell anymore if that would even help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5298925
VTubing's a popular right now, trend-chasers and the like are naturally going to be drawn in. I'd recommend looking at /wvt/ and some of the other indie tubers that get attention here and see who they network with. Even if you don't want to interact with anyone from here directly, most probably share your sentiments and already interact with outsiders who might be more your speed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5296816
You might be able to fuck some stuff on mix it up if you try hard enough and can html/css a layout. It can store information in a text file that counts up each time something happens. Though how to get their "poll" input from a follow is kinda impossible. I don't see how "follow and say x" would really work. You could make a command choice that's available only to followers to choose one and make the individual cooldown to forever. Hmm...There are ways but you need to know some programming logic and testing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5300079
Honestly that kind of veracity isn't going to be present for a male vtuber.

[Anonymous No.]

this is kinda why i'm more partial to /asp/ because side from the shit food everyone eats, they don't get their panties in a twist over irrelevant shit like pronouns or getting 'canceled'

[Anonymous No.]

>>5298925

>I'd recommend looking at /wvt/ and some of the other indie tubers that get attention here and see who they network with

If you're part of a company, don't do this. You need to be looking to already established vutbers. they don't need to be big names, but almost no one in /wvt/ has anything of any real quality, it's just some nice soulful niche stuff with most of the viewers outside the big ones being friend groups and other /asp/ies, with the occasional /wvt/ viewer pod. Look to normal already established vtubers. They don't have to be huge, but people who already have an audience. You're wasting your time and threatening your ability to really grow if you're associating what i assume is decent quality assets with these low quality streamers

[Anonymous No.]

>>5300669
At this moment I'm just looking at potentially doing channel points as a redeem and going that way. I'll make it clear that you can also vote with your bits and donations message and I can manually update it with stream labels post stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5300967
i think they said /wvt/ specifically for a reason; you could look at some of the more popular/bigger streamers talked about there like Nina, Maroony, Yozora, Little_S_, Shimada, etc.
most of us /asp/ies are just starting out so i don't think i'd recommend anyone look towards us for what to emulate

[Anonymous No.]

/wvt/ always feels way too cult-ish to me

[Anonymous No.]

>post a while ago about the possibility of applying to Niji
>Niji reopens auditions
I should take it as a sign. Also looking at reddit as much as I hate it, it seems Nijisanji isn't as strict as Cover for their auditions. Wish me luck, anons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5303066
Nice digits and good luck!

[Anonymous No.]

>>5303066
>>5303264
Forgot to ask: the audition form doesn't tell you how long the video must be. Holo's was 3 minutes but no idea on Niji. What do you recommend for introduction in the video? I tried looking for example videos but the few I found were cringe. I will try to act a character like the guidelines specify but I'm not exactly an Oscar winner, I hope my natural personality compensates.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5304656
Fucking forgot again. Should I record audio only or try doing facecam?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5304656
>the audition form doesn't tell you how long the video must be.
?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5304749
Fuck, I swear I didn't see it the first few times I checked the form.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone have the short list of educational vtubers? I thought there was a physicist, a mathematician, and someone who did linguistics as their vtuber selves. I forgot to write their names down and wanted to look them up again and get some pointers on how they set up their videos.

[Gael !StRaTUSD32 No.]

>>5305957
https://www.twitch.tv/woyde_ch
Woyde does linguistics

[Anonymous No.]

>>5305990
Thanks. Any idea on the other two? (I might be misremembering the subject they taught though, sorry.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>5305957
elliott does japanese grammar lessons weekly
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDjSrOdEfpAvaPcYTU_oq_TZ8Is-WL9s_
there was also this group that disbanded recently
https://www.youtube.com/c/SpiritUniversity/videos

[Anonymous No.]

>>5306253
Thanks for the links, anon. Cheers!

[Anonymous No.]

does the Niji introduction mean to introduce the character or yourself?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5298925
>I'm on payroll already
>I have no networking skills
lmao this has to be bait this is such a weird post

[Anonymous No.]

>>5308787
I asume it is meant to introduce your character. Matsuri showed a snipet of her audio audition and it was just her being seizo so I believe you have to introduce your character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294931
>Live in the US
That was your first mistake

[Anonymous No.]

>>5311251
Knew I should have picked a better spawn location. Darnit.

[Anonymous No.]

Seeing the OpSec pastebin made me think about the Niji auditions. Should I still follow some of those steps the moment I submit my application? Particularly the burner email account and whatnot

[Anonymous No.]

>>5313242
don't see why not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5300967
>almost no one in /wvt/ has anything of any real quality
Wtf based

[Anonymous No.]

>>5298925
found the tsunderia male vtuber

[Anonymous No.]

>>5298925
If you're with a company, you'll have the support and eventually be in a position where people will be begging you to network with them. You can pick and choose then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5304656
It's kinda hard to tell what they're looking for now. They've accepted people for doing voices on a blank screen, but they must have raised the bar since then.

I can do a number of voices so I'm not too sure how to approach it. I really enjoy doing my deeper villainess voices but I dunno if it's what they're looking for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294724
Did this guy debut yet? I like his design

[Anonymous No.]

>>5314414
he's still waiting on a png before he starts streaming i believe

[Anonymous No.]

The girls audition is slightly different to the boys one. In this case is it a self intro, not a character intro? Are any of you niji auditioners going to be streaming over a game for the character portion?

[Anonymous No.]

I just can't fucking talk at all. I try to start something long winded but I just end up talking for 1 minute with huge pauses and don't even get all my thoughts across. How the hell do I remedy this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5314964
You either keep at it and power through or you can preplan a topic with cliff notes for yourself where you can readily read them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5314964
the hard truth is that the only way to get better at talking is by practicing

[Anonymous No.]

>>5314988
I did have a few notes ready and I was sure that they could last me for at least one hour-long stream but I kept fumbling over and over, leaving behind a topic too early because I was looking at the game too much.

>>5314999

I know maybe one person that would be somewhat willing to put up with me rambling. Don't suppose that counts as practice does it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5315063
>I know maybe one person that would be somewhat willing to put up with me rambling.
an empty chat is the same thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5315082

You're right. Difference is that my friend will forget about it next morning, but the stream will be archived for anyone to see my shit commentary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5315121
>but the stream will be archived for anyone to see my shit commentary.
delete the VOD?
you're not that important and no one gives a shit. just go all out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5315063
>leaving behind a topic too early because I was looking at the game too much.
unless you're playing at a godlike level it's probably more entertaining that you're throwing in whatever you're playing in order to make the story flow better

[Anonymous No.]

>>5314964
Learn to speak your mind with a decent filter. Whatever you're playing at least narrate it and your thoughts. If there's anything in particular you plan on doing mention it and why, for example if you're playing shit tier games like valorant or apex then stuff like explaining why you chose a certain gun as you're playing is good to start from. Unless you need a breather or just want to have a relaxed moment keep just saying what you're doing an embellish it, tangents will come naturally as you suddenly remember something whilst you're talking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5315214
>>5315142

Noted.

>>5315191

To be frank, I wanted to stream God Hand on Hard Mode but in hindsight it was probably a shit idea at least for now. If I can't even commentate properly, it's just me dying in the same stage for two hours.

[Anonymous No.]

I just kinda want to come online and vent/gush for a bit

I've been thinking about streaming for years, but never did it. There's a multitude of reasons behind why not, but I finally sacked up and spent $35 on a two-set of PNG. Having spent out, even if it's on a cheap model and nothing else, I couldn't back down.

Over the last few days, I've typed up a bio, got socials working, posted on them, and set-up all the streaming works. By no means is it a professional looking set-up, but I'm not just another vtuber using the stock VRoid model.

And so... There was nothing left to do. I knew what I wanted to play for my first set of streams (hunting down a rare achievement), I had everything set-up, and I had a free evening.

So I did it. Three and a half hours later, and I can't believe how little went wrong. It didn't take off, but I wasn't expecting it to, so everything kind of went as hoped.

And then I screwed up the raid. Didn't check their stream as I was setting it up, and they were already rolling end-credits. Felt like such an idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5315453
as far as fuck ups go, that's pretty fucking minor. as soon as you initiate the raid, it's now the raidee's problem to deal with. they need to figure out what to do with the sudden influx of viewers. it's not on you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5315453
>having viewers to raid with
You're gonna make it anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5314964
Don't do something long-winded.

Play a game YOU know in detail, that you can go into the minutia of, and that you can fully explain all your decisions for. Ideally, you want a game that doesn't have deadtime.

Skyrim/Oblivion would be terrible for you - all the travel time you can't narrate through unless you're just talking about your life, which you've said you can't do.

On the other hand, something like EU4 would have constant decision making, even if it isn't massively interesting for people to watch, it'll get your feet wet.

[Anonymous No.]

i want to collab with pic rel
is this a good enough idea for me to audition for Niji males?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5315612
What I meant was that I tried to start a long-winded talk about something but thanks for the advice anyway. I wanted to do God Hand and thought I could do decent commentary but I'm too shit at the game right now to play well and still get my thoughts across in a cohesive manner.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5315761
Ye, part of why I'm joining is to collab with chuubas. I think that's why a lot of people apply. Plus the captain a cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>5315761
I wonder how the company attempts to filter for people that're just trying to meet their oshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>5316035
I thought that too at first and I think a lot of people do, especially when you hear people like Ina talk about how they joined an agency for friends
However, being in the indie scene and meeting so many cool people has made me realize that I didn't need to be in an agency to get that experience. There's still a part of me that would be ecstatic to get into a corpo, but leaving behind the people I've met since I started would also hurt...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5316061
Makes me want to aud just to hang out with people's oshis

[Anonymous No.]

>>5315761
if youre cute like chiho then yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294724
unrelated but what is this art of/the artist for OP pic? kinda rocks desu

[Anonymous No.]

I need to ask: What do you think they want in the 'Self-PR' part of the application?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5316061
I think if they're super obsessive then Niji would filter them, but most people watch niji because they like the streamers. If they cut out everyone who had an oshi there'd be no one left. Pomu loves Mito but she's not weird about it fir example

[Anonymous No.]

>>5316543
Basically a self promotion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5316957
I suppose I just put my skills and the like in it, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5317018
Advertise yourself as best as you can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5316543
It’s a Japanese way of saying “cover letter”
It’s like a short sharp bio about why you’re really cool and good for the job essentially. A chance to sell yourself in a punchy way

[Anonymous No.]

>>5314758
Oh man I introduced my character. Like a short debut almost, I didn’t even realise they might want to know about me.
Maybe I’ll do it again and audition for a different character.

[Anonymous No.]

Alright, sent in an audition for the Kitsune character
I hope I'll do alright; there's probably going to be not very many people auditioning for the pre-prepared characters so my own audition might do well hopefully

[Anonymous No.]

I’ve not seen anyone talk about the bird. That’s the one to audition for.

I did the fox but I’m thinking I’ll try bird too for less competition

[Anonymous No.]

Whoever manages to get the spot for the cat or bird, please, avoid the fuck out of gogon and similar people, their logos are copy-paste and recolor jobs from one previous logo to the next. They have a "style", yes, but it's not necessarily a good fit.

You can argue with me about why or why not this is true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5318361
I'm thinking I'm going to do bird or ghost

[Anonymous No.]

>>5318092
I'm going to email them tonight and hopefully they'll get back to me with some clarifications. I'll post here if they do

[Anonymous No.]

>>5318802
King shit thanks man

[Anonymous No.]

fuck me, the niji auditions have a big hat witch girl just like what my model is. i already comm'd a png which was a lot of $$$ for me. what do i do, i don't want to look like a cheap knockoff

[Anonymous No.]

>>5320629
Unless yours is also a cat you’ll be fine. “Witch with big hat” is just an archetype.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5320629
I'll buy her off your hands

[Anonymous No.]

I'm not an artist but I want to kind visualize what my basic look for my character will be. Should I use games like koikatsu's character creator? or is there something else thats also easy? vroid is hard when it comes to hair

[Anonymous No.]

>>5323059
What I did was find a bunch of images I liked aspects of (hat, coat, general theme, etc), and then sent them and a description to an artist as a commission. I gave them free reign, but stayed in the loop, so I'd be able to request alterations.

I used fiverr, but I know a lot of people use Skeb. You could also try DeviantArt or Twitter, although I'm not familiar with them for searching for artists.

If you find artists willing to give you commercial rights, you also can then use the images in your transition slides or promo materials, rather than having just a single model you need to manipulate for it.

[Anonymous No.]

Whew, application sent.
For those still wondering if they should apply or not, do it. Just do it.
Any shortcomings you can learn from this one can help you in the future.

[Anonymous No.]

my growth has been so bad and I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. i used to have a decent turnout too.
makes me worried.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it better to measure growth from overall viewers, or from the average number of viewers over the course of a stream? With my usual format I get a lot of people who pop in to the stream, get a question answered, then leave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5314758
Now that I see it I realized I can't record a game. I was just going to do some voiceovers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5327056
its kinda not good if they're not staying

[Anonymous No.]

I actually had an idea just now for a stream idea, and was wondering what you all think? I have an air pistol range set up in my basement, and since I have a two-camera set-up for doing crafting and other stuff, it wouldnt be too hard to take that camera and have it down-range pointed at the target. It'd probably be more of a casual chatting and plinking stream, but it'd be pretty unique.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5327782
It's more like their primary reason for visiting is to get a tarot card reading done, and the vtuber aspect is secondary. A decent amount of them subscribe, but it's more for the specific content rather than the whole personality/entertaining aspect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5327796
You could maybe ask other chuubas to reply with their PNGs on Twitter beforehand and then print them out for targets as a fun way to milk the algorithm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5326546
Good luck anon! What did you do for the streaming part?

[Anonymous No.]

So when they say "record yourself streaming in the selected character" they want you to play some game, right? I have no means to record gameplay of anything for the moment so I was thinking in recording myself talking like in a satsudan or reading some story while commenting on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5328448
They probably just want you to talk to a audience. Like prend you doing pre game chat.
Like this shit: https://youtu.be/rGPm0QyeGlo?t=92
1:32 - 6:16
They said
>no Live2D avatar required
So I doubt they want game recording too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5328403
Oh, my twitter skills are like, non-existent. Networking is probably my least developed skill, and quite frankly I'm horrible with making social media work for me. I play it up a bit for my vtubing persona, claiming to be a complete luddite but I'm really not the best at that kind of thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5328409
I pretended I was starting an action game for the first time. Did that for a bit and then did a pretend of ending a stream. Basically, a huge game of pretend to talk to the chat, pretend chat interaction such as memberships, SCs and so on.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyways
Can anyone shit on my desgin please?
He's meant to look like he's from that 2000-2013 era. And he's a dumb monkey.

Any criticism on the colour would be great too, I know jack shit about colour theroy.
I was gonna make he's hair rainbow but I couldn't make it look nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5328409
If you want any ideas, try checking an established VTuber's first stream of a game and see how that VTuber talks and so on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5329538
This is really cute actually it gives me niche late 90s early 2000s rhythm game vibes

[Anonymous No.]

>>5329538
You had the right idea on dropping the rainbow hair. The yellow-green can work well with the red, but consider throwing in some cyan somewhere to make a nice triadic colour scheme. My first thought was on the eyes, but then he'd be giving super saiyan vibes. Whatever the case just make sure to bring the sort of high energy someone would expect from a character like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>for some fucking reason phone doesn't have an audio recording app
>Only option left is phone camera with mic
I will just cover my phone's camera and record audio that way. I actually found a couple of failed vtuber auditions with facecam on YT and I cringed really hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5334573
You don't have a microphone and a PC?

[Anonymous No.]

Do you think there'd be an issue with Twitch or Youtube with doing a crafting stream doing engraving on a flintlock rifle? Art streams seem pretty popular but I'm just not really good with digital art.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5329538
you look a bit like tomakeys

[Anonymous No.]

>>5335785
My laptop chocked last week so it's getting repaired. I hope to get it back before monday. My only mic alternative is the ones from my headset as my laptop's is just shit. Phone's so far sounds the best in my opinion.
I pondered on the facecam thing as they are requesting to introduce yourself as a person, and showing your face should help with that, in theory. I will end up not showing it, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5330138
Thank you. Early 2000s anime was my main reference.

>>5333337
I forgot to mention he's name is Ringo. Hence why the green/red and the hat.
But yeah thank you for the recommendation, I think cyan will work well, I'll see where I can add it.

>>5336133
Oh shit we do kinda look like, were even both monkeys. One of my drafts had earrings, shorts and no shoes on too lol. She seems cool though maybe we can friends or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5334573
I did my very first audition with just an iPhone and recorded inside my car.
Have you tried downloading an audio recording app or is it a potato phone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5336734
If you’re applying for Nijisanji, you don’t really need to do facecam.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5338912
It's a fried potato phone, so no completely potato. I tried downloading recording apps but more often than not the audio quality from them was... Lackluster to say the least. I'm thinking in just putting some tape on my phone camera firl myself to record audio that way.
>>5339026
Now I'm curious, do any other agencies request facecam for auditions? I know for Niji it's not mandatory but it was something I was considering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5340911
>do any other agencies request facecam for auditions?
i don't think i've ever seen an application specify that they want a face cam audition

[Anonymous No.]

>>5340911
Record with it camera down on a flat surface hands off.
That way the table is blocking the camera and the mic is pointed at you speaking.

This tutorial is for iPhone and garage band but https://youtu.be/Mmxg43B9R2c

[Anonymous No.]

how do you guys come up with creative names for your vtuber models? i suck at names

[Anonymous No.]

>>5342216
I picked a topic that I was kinda knowledgeable and wanted to theme myself around and look through a glossary of terms from a textbook and just picked one that didn't seem too cringy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5329538
I like the design and concept. But I would like to make a few suggestions if that's okay?

Like your hat perplexed me abit. Is it an apple bottom? Maybe make it a big billed hat! Those were very instyle and hip around the time you are inspired by as well as bellbottoms.
I would also like to suggest maybe playing around with your colors more.
I think what touched me most was the color yellow/green you chose. It reminds me of bananas that aren't ready yet. Was that your intention? If so it's very good and ignore me. I'm silly.

Honestly if you were thinking of going rainbow color, there's a way TO do it that may work for you. But it's not going to be solid rainbow.

Also what's the microphone for? Are you a singer? Or are you a comedian? Or are you just LOUD.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5342345
that's cute as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>5341921
That's what I was thinking in doing as well. Gonna test it out today.
>>5342216
I have some japanese knowledge so I went with a name according to my thene that, when written in katakana and pronounced in Japanese would be a pun on my theme as well. This in case I debut as an indie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5342216
If your animal themed try something similar to the scientific name of that animal.
But something easy to pronounce and fun to say is best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5342216
My name is a silly pun. To many monkeys. Shortened down. Tomakeys. But a proper name Toma Keys . But it also works if you look up what Toma means on it's own.

You could even think of your favorite media. Like I was so close to weebing out and going by Genki. But like, I realized I'm not energetic and that's a BAD fit for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5342216
I had a previous (non-streaming) identity that I wanted to keep in some way so I made a new one that would somewhat sound like it but also thematically fit the chubba

[Anonymous No.]

>>5342216
along with what everyone's said right now, do a google search for your potential vtuber name and see how many others are using it. i had a few in mind but when i searched for them, it was already taken by a bunch of other vtubers. didn't want to engage in name competition on top of streaming competition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5342380
ALSO, here's the idea I had for rainbow hair. Instead of having a solid rainbow hair. Have a base hair that you can have shift colors. Like an emotive accessory.
Also, I would like to formally suggest changing the hair color from the color that it is to a pale yellow for a few raisins.
1. Pale yellow looks like fruit flesh, like banana insides or apples.
2. it's easy to look at.
3. It will pop more when the emotive hair is activated.

And you wouldn't have to call yourself a dumb monkey. But a emotional mood monkey. Like a mood ring.

by doing this you get a blingee feel. And you can pair it with other toggleable emotes for all sorts of emotions.

[Anonymous No.]

so, i don't want to throw him under the bus, but it looks like elliot's been streaming consistently for a good long while, but almost all of his videos have very little views. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCk1oLEozAKer083vBoL3iLg/videos
is this just a youtube thing? how can i avoid this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5344027
Elliot-chamma....

Networking, vchatting and vtweeting. Make friends with other content creators.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5344027
That's just an archive channel, he streams on twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294724
I don't know about being a Vtuber but I did want to have a live 2d model. I want to try to be just a simple art channel that does my stuff while doing small art requests from chat every now and then.

My question is how important is a Vtube "identity." Do I have to come up with a whole biography and personality for my character or can I just go in casual?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5344708
>My question is how important is a Vtube "identity." Do I have to come up with a whole biography and personality for my character or can I just go in casual?
no one cares about it. don't waste your time. come up with a one sentence throwaway lore if you must but other than that, don't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5344708
Treat it like a tabletop character and write a couple sentences, add to it later as you go with more details

[Anonymous No.]

>>5342345
My god, thank you. Do you mind I take some points from your redesign?

To be honest I didn't know what I was going for with the hat, just that it was some short of cap. I love what you did with it though, making it oversized. it fits the rest of outfit being too big for him.

The colours came from his name "Ringo" meaning Apple in Japanese. Green being the main one because of yeah it is also the colour of ripe fruit.

>>5343886
Yeah I'm thinking I'd drop the rainbow idea. I only had it as a idea because I remember seeing a lot rainbow hair back in the ealry 2000s. The mood ring stuff sounds fun too, but I prefer just dumb monkey. But I'll try out yellow hair.

And the microphone is there because I'll be using a shitty Singstar micophone irl. It's quality fits the time period. But also because I'm loud. (Ringo also wants to sinnger... he's bad it)

[Anonymous No.]

>>5345068
You can start with a shitty mic, but as soon as you can upgrade. It doesnt have to be the best a usb mic is fine.
80% of vtubing is voice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5345068
Of course!

[Anonymous No.]

>>5345233
Oh no lol.
I'm intentionally using a shitty mic. The singstar mic is actually too good, I need software to modify it.
I'm trying to get to this level: https://youtu.be/NqgzOkfzLNU
I already have better mic on me, so if it's unwatchable I'll just that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5345893
please don't. just get a good mic and use that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5345893
I dont care how funny you are I will not watch a livestream like this.
Feel free to make short form content like this.
unironically Tictok is great for vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>5345893
make a youtube cartoon show if you want, but don't use a shitty mic or voice filter like that for live streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5342216
I just picked a name that seemed to fit the overall theme I wanted for my character. The design I have for mine is sort of an elven forest witch, so for the first name I went with part of the scientific name of a plant, and the last name is just something elf-y.

[Anonymous No.]

>waiting for my updated model to be done
>there are enough changes that i don't want to commission new skebs with my old design

[Anonymous No.]

>>5343119
That's quite creative.
>>5342216
Mine's going to be a religious vtuber, so I named him Gospel. But it means more than just that to me.

[Anonymous No.]

I was thinking on applying for niji but I'm still not sure
How much of a buff is having a second language to audition?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5351579
Nobody’s gonna know for sure how much they value it, but I’d guess Japanese/Indonesian is a noticeable buff, and the rest barely move the needle. I’d mention it regardless, you never know when NijiES or NijiUkraine or whatever will debut and suddenly you’re a valuable asset.
Anyway, just /aud/. Either you make it in or you get some good practice. There’s not really a downside unless it’s gonna take up a ton of your time.

[Anonymous No.]

Just did a test stream to get used to everything and OBS. it was really fun, even just chuubin for my friend who was checking on audio and stuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>5342345
your art is really good! do you have an art account anywhere?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5345945 >>5346222 >>5346337
Yeah ok, I tested it out a bit more and it sucked ass.
I was expecting something more nostalgic but it was just annoying.
I still want something to make me sound like my videos/streams are old though, might have put it on the backburner.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5352906
anonchamma....
The signature is a giveaway but i'll link you if you dont guess it

[Anonymous No.]

>>5353024
i saw the signature, i wasn’t able to find who you are from it though

[Anonymous No.]

>>5353214
twitter.com / KeysTomama

I'm not the artist just a friend

[Anonymous No.]

>>5337152
>I forgot to mention he's name is Ringo. Hence why the green/red and the hat.

You are not the only Ringo. There's another one that's been around longer I'm afraid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5352951
>I still want something to make me sound like my videos/streams are old though,
make a scripted youtube cartoon show. don't live stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>live2d rigger i've had my eyes on is closing their window tomorrow
>no word from live2d modeler
looks like i'm back to searching for a rigger again

[Anonymous No.]

Active vtubers, how much do you hate your viewers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5354802
Not at all, they seem pretty nice. Not that I have that many.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5354802
I cherish all my viewers
except the one that always talks about farts

[Anonymous No.]

>>5355026
Honestly I'm just amazed I even have viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5354802
i only hate the ones that treat streamers like some show animal
>hey, if you say [sketchy shit in some language] i'll donate you 5 bits

[Anonymous No.]

>>5351579
No idea, it's not a deal breaker of maker to know japanese

[Anonymous No.]

At what point have you actually "made it" as a chuuba?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5356374
depends on what you think 'making it' means

[Anonymous No.]

>>5356374
Never, even when you make it in other people's eyes nothing changes fundamentally for you
There's never some big moment where you can just coast forever after

[Anonymous No.]

>>5357064
Well not coasting is a given, it's more of the feeling of finally having consistent streams and feeling confident that a least few people will watch them.

[Anonymous No.]

if i can pay for my monthly expenses, then i'll consider myself as having "made it" but that's not realistically happening for me ever

[Anonymous No.]

>>5357236
There is no clicking moment like that
It's a frog in hot water situation, the change is so slow there's no noticeable moment where you sit back and know you made it. You just continue pushing forward and building a little more

[Anonymous No.]

>>5361513
to be fair, that is some extremely high standards

[Anonymous No.]

>>5361513
Streamers have no insurance so that's a high bar
You'd need about 2k to 3k viewers consistently to be able to make as much as an office job

[Anonymous No.]

>>5361513
You can look at the sc earnings of some of the vtubers
It was a surreal moment when I realized Pikamees superchats per month don't clear as much as my day job. Really puts in perspective that the big money is really just concentrated at the top

[Anonymous No.]

>>5362354
How much does Pikamee make monthly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5355116
I seriously hate the ones that come in demanding you say something or want to talk about their "special interest". No, I don't want to talk about shitty mobile games for kids or niche cartoon show characters nobody remembers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5362415
For the period I saw it was somewhere around 6k in a month

[Anonymous No.]

>>5362636
I’ve had a few situations where I just ignore someone going on about their special interest since I have nothing to say, but I also have shit viewership. So clearly that’s not the way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5361513
I'm a disgusting NEET that still can't find a job so whatever comes in I'll take it. I just want to support my parents

[Anonymous No.]

Yuusha is too cute I cant take it

[Anonymous No.]

>>5362354
Keep in mind that advertising, memberships and sponsorships usually represent a larger proportion of revenue than superchats. That said Pikamee probably gets more than the usual.

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like I could become a fairly decent vtuber, but I'm lacking the equipment. Landed a good job recently, so once I get my car fixed up I'll start saving up for a decent pc, and get myself streaming.
I was thinking of mostly doing zatsudans/podcasts with some of my buddies as a start. One of the few things I have confidence in is my voice, and being able to just shoot the shit and blab about things.
>Fucking sucks that one of my favorite topics are firearms, so I run the risk of sjw's throwing hissy fits on twitter
At leask /k/ might tune in for the bullshit I spout

[Anonymous No.]

>>5369619
>so I run the risk of sjw's throwing hissy fits on twitter
why do you think twitter sjws would actively be going around on twitch looking for 2view indie vtubers who talk about a subject they don't even like?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5369685
fuck, you got a good point

[Anonymous No.]

>>5369619
/k/ is a surprisingly attentive audience. First time i saw my stream being posted by someone else was in a /k/ server with someone talking about a new seemingly pro-gun vtuber they found.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5370509
I mean, to clarify I don't want my persona linked with /k/ or 4chan in general, but it was kind of hard not to say "hey, that's literally me."

[Anonymous No.]

fuuuuuck my model cannot come soon enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>5372097
What is it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5375260
my vtuber model

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know how relevant this is for the thread, but the goat man is talking about vtubing as an indie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyfZuELykyU

[Anonymous No.]

>>5375412
i mean... i guess if you can understand japanese

[Anonymous No.]

Morning bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>5342345
i love this

[Anonymous No.]

Streamed yesterday and I managed to get up to the double digits in followers. It’s not much but I’m happy with it. I need to work in talking more but since it was a drawing I was focusing on drawing. It didn’t help that my chat wasn’t super talkative.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5379304
if you have a consistent streaming schedule you'll have regulars coming back

[Anonymous No.]

Is there such a thing as missing out on growth or networking? Can it be done later? I want to make sure I'm having fun first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5379489
there will always be other streamers to "network" with

[Anonymous No.]

>>5379862
Why the scare quotes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5379489
Every second of everyday youre missing out. But every second there is a new chance for you. If your goal is to make it big, fun is secondary. If you’re here to have a good time and make friends then fuck it.

[Anonymous No.]

I really want to have a loli avi, but my voice is naturally deep for a girl. What do I do? & if I don't go for a loli, what kind of character suits a deeper voice? Do I just do voice training reps for a nicer voice in order not to get called a troon?

[Anonymous No.]

Do they give you keys for games?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5383357
Just go for it, could be interesting. A deep-voiced oneechan lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5385940
Who is "they"? If you can find a way to look important enough to be able to push product, you'll probably get some sort of sponsorship opportunities eventually. Very likely never gonna happen as an indie though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5386182
Kek, should've been more specific. I meant agencies like niji and holo.

[Anonymous No.]

How do I discover new/low view vtubers on youtube? I want to show some love. Both JP and EN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5386260
Honestly, from what I've seen of Hololive its likely the talent buy the game themselves, seeing as how they have to do everything else themselves. Though if the agency gets a group sponsorship or something then most likely the game is free for them. No idea on nijisanji, but I'd assume its the same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5383357
I say go for it if that kind of model is what you really want. I've seen so many models with so many voices that some would think "don't fit" but the streamers sounded like they're having fun, so thats a plus for me as a viewer

>>5386260
if you make it big, game purchases will be an afterthought

[Anonymous No.]

>>5382930
Lmao this is an easy 1 way ticket to suicidal depression and burnout

[Anonymous No.]

>>5386619
How so?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5382930
>>5386619
That explains my mental state recently

[Anonymous No.]

>>5386619
Hating something you loved because of the pressure is hell

[Anonymous No.]

>>5386790
Not him but the idea of just pressuring yourself so much to hit this vague "made it" position in life will never do anything but harm you mentally. Slogging away doing a job you hate is for "I have to do this or die" positions like office work/retail/fast food jobs. If you are going to be an entertainer you need to at least enjoy what you are doing or you will either burn out super fast, quit, or both. When you are your own boss, you are also in charge of when you don't work, which is important.

[Anonymous No.]

>Spent the past couple of days recording footage specifically for Nijisanji audition
>Go to use Vegas Pro for the first time
>Realise I've recorded in the wrong file format for not only the Nijisanji footage, but for the 310gb worth of game footage I was going to use for game reviews that I have collected for the past 3 months
Better to have found out now than later I suppose

[Anonymous No.]

>>5388720
sounds like at that point you might actually benefit from one of those paid video format converters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5389297
I considered it but
>good ones are expensive
>will take literal days and maybe even weeks to convert everything
>video and quality could potentially be fucked up because I’m using converters for retro consoles
I’ll just re-record stuff. Losing 28 hours worth of Persona 3 footage and having to replay it all will be the major kick in the balls though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5389881
that's fair, i couldn't sit through a replay of a JRPG like that. way too much dialog and story. i'd need at least like a year gap between play throughs

[Anonymous No.]

>>5389987
Worst part is it isn’t the only JRPG I lost footage for. My entire FF7, Vagrant Story and Omori playthrough are gone. I wouldn’t mind re-recording FF7 or Vagrant Story because at least the gameplay itself is fun.

Persona 3’s gameplay makes me want to neck myself though, so having to redo all that grinding is just so much more worse than losing any other JRPG or FPS footage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5390661
Play p3p instead it has better gameplay

[Anonymous No.]

>>5390661
that's... that's a lot of footage, fuck dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>5388720
what file format?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5390744
I’ll look into it. Been meaning to eventually get that thing for the ps3 that allows you to play psp games on it.
>>5390766
>Omori
>Vagrant Story
>FF7
>Persona 3
>Killsone 1,2 & 3
>System Shock
>Shadow of the Colossus
>Lost Planet
>Ratchet and Clank
>Some DbD and Apex footage
It was a fun couple of months. Never make the same mistake I have friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5390958
Didn’t see your reply. I recorded in mov, but I should have recorded in mp4. I’ve already deleted all the files at this point so conversion isn’t an option anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5391017
Probably could have thrown it at handbrake to see if it works well before deleting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5391168
yeah. plus he could have downscaled it to 720p and retain most of the quality if there was any loss and still have something pretty good. pre-recorded stuff on youtube still do pretty well even at 720p. not everything needs to be 1080p

[Anonymous No.]

How do I find a content niche? Is one specific indie game a niche? How good do I need to be at it? Or do I need to present a hobby?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5391809
make like 3 vods of 2 hours each, then watch them. are you, as a streamer, creating content that you enjoy watching yourself? if yes, you've found your niche, if no, then try something else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5391881
That's actually a great plan. Thanks, I needed something like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5354802
I found some of the vtubers I networked with to be more cringey than any viewer

[Anonymous No.]

>>5392575
Now this is gossip. Are those vtweeters?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5392575
how hard is it to just avoid that shit? i haven't come across any cringy shit all this time.

[Anonymous No.]

i wish there was a way to search for live2d riggers based on price. everything sub $300 looks like absolute shit. you can tell they just spent a weekend messing around and decided they could take advantage of the vtuber bandwagon to make a quick buck. perspectives are all fucked up, angles are horrible, their demo reels are just slapstick anime reactions pasted on top instead of actual animations (you don't even get full range of motion, mouth shapes, and eye tracking)

[Anonymous No.]

>>5386790
if you don't have fun and are in it just for the fame and success you're going to get burnt the fuck out on streaming after about 2 months when you realize you only have 50 followers and 15-20 regular viewers
because building a community is so slow unless you're a god at viral marketing or have a decent money backing, you're never going to have that rocket to the moon type of success, the bigs only get it because they have an org pushing them upwards and dropping 6-7 figures a year on advertising and viral marketing to get there

[Anonymous No.]

How weird would the idea of a vtuber model without visible eyes sound to you ? Could that work ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5395923
you'd better have a really fucking good voice

[Anonymous No.]

>>5395923
it's not entirely weird but it's definitely a big of a debuff
the less of the face you show the more you run into a Hazard Hornet situation where his model had literally no movement in the face since all his face tracked elements would be off screen half the time

[Anonymous No.]

>>5395953
My voice is OK, I'm just not super charismatic and due to being ESL I sound like an American but with less vocab.
I'll keep thinking about it, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5396157
there's a big reason why almost every vtuber out there has a humanoid appearance is because at the end of the day, you're literally just a streamer. you are there to provide entertainment.

with face cam streaming you can be there to create a collective sense of emotion and reaction with the content you're watching (playing a game, watching funny videos, doing a zatsudan,etc.) but the core part is that you're still sharing a relatable experience with the viewers.

if your eyes are hidden, then you've only got your mouth shapes and your voice, nothing else the viewer sees can convey expressions. if you've got peak comedian skills (voice, inflections, timing, wit) you can pull off something like pic related, even if it's just a simple puppet. but that's near professional levels of talent.

don't debuff yourself anymore than you need to, it's already hard enough to be vtuber.

[Anonymous No.]

Is being a male Chuuba that's not a sex pest a buff or debuff?
seems like all the top western guys are all sex pests so it seems like a big debuff to not be creepy and predatorial around women you work with

[Anonymous No.]

>>5400337
the 3rd? 4th? largest male vtuber was me too'd yesterday for sexual abuse, so i guess that's up to you

[Anonymous No.]

>>5400408
that's what I'm referencing, the top 3-4 male western vtubers seem to be consistently getting metooed and caught up in scandals for having sex with fans, sending weird sexual DMs or being creepy around the female vtubers they work with
but these are the ones who get the views, the clout, and the collabs so idk seems to be a winning combination

[Anonymous No.]

>>5400408
Wait who was this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5400487
just don't be a fucking creep and flirt with people in your DMs
>>5400526
kittymcpancakes

[Anonymous No.]

>>5400538
but is being a creep a buff or a debuff?
the ones who are at the top seem to all be creeps, those seem to be the ones who get popular

[Anonymous No.]

>>5400570
being a creep on stream - debuff
being a creep in DMs - they're gonna take screenshots and keep a record of it until they have enough to Me Too you, but neither a buff nor debuff

>the ones who are at the top seem to all be creeps
they're only creeps in DMs, they don't act that way when streaming or in public. what kind of dumb fuck question is this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5400570
>but is being a creep a buff or a debuff?
It's neither. It's a problem that will bite you in your ass eventually.

>the ones who are at the top seem to all be creeps, those seem to be the ones who get popular
Because you're smoothbrained and are confusing what causes what. They're popular because they're going out and networking/collabing more, but in their case they're doing it so they can get more access to be creeps. Just create good content, but also network well. Don't be a creep.

How fucking far gone are some of the people in this thread that this has to be explained? Do any of you interact with humans at all?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5400666
it was a throwaway question because the thread was on page 10 and about to be bumped off calm down

[Anonymous No.]

>>5400538
>kittymcpancakes
That's definitely one of the biggest male vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>5400800
>>5400538
I think I've heard the name before. Though when I think "well known male vtubers" I think Banderas from nijisanji, then a few of the other male niji's, then Roberu and the rest of holostars, then Takahata, then Bungo Taiga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5401107
western male vtubers, the fact that no one has launched a male branch in the west yet definitely hurts the discoverability
Nijisanji is the only one to actually entertain the idea yet despite everyone saying they'll eventually get to it

[Anonymous No.]

>>5401107
none of the JPs are relevant to western male vtubers because the culture and audience is entirely different. Takahata is only popular because of his past fame working with TeamFourStar and BungoTaiga got lucky by debuting early in 2020, around April, before the huge rush of vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>Follower count keeps on fluctuating
What the fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>5394478
I hashtagged an intro post and reading the replies I got it was like I was transported back to a 2009 anime con

[Anonymous No.]

>>5401501
In the short term, both shitty website coding, people misclicking, and some websites condensing multiple account follows into one, can make your follow count jump around a bit. Look once a week or so. The same goes for pretty much all the numbers you want to keep track off, hourly or even daily checking is usually pointless

[Anonymous No.]

well, it happened. live2d rigger closed their slots and my art's still not done yet. once again my search begins anew...

[Anonymous No.]

Either artists are entirely lazy or it's being hyped up how long these commissions take
multiple months to complete when you're charging an arm and a leg seems pretty bad

[Anonymous No.]

hey guys, iim feeling pretty bummed atm. my streams were growing really well consistency two weeks ago, but then my laptop died and i wasnt able to stream for a week. now theyre consistently dropping.

and idk, imma stick with this vtubing thing because honestly i love it to death, but i can't help but compare myself to other indies and feel really guilty. i feel like whenever i look into how to grow on twitch i get the same 10 or so little peices of advice that ive already been doing this whole time. is it just luck, or is there anything besides the usual tips that i can be doing to improve?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5405197
high-quality models should take a month tops if everything goes smoothly, shorter if it's someone just doing the rigging and not the art. the only thing that i would say makes things take longer is if the artist has other commissions going on or if you give them your "model" and it's a png that they have to seperate themselves lol

[Anonymous No.]

I was raided for the first time today and finally managed to get double digits watching at once. Admittedly it was another Tarot streamer, rather than another vtuber, but it's still pretty nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5406315
To quote sodapoppin: leech.
To quote mizkif: leech small categories from big streamers
Next time vshojos do a power wash simulator, stream right after them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5406315
go live right when a big channel is about to wrap up and is just doing chatting/dono reading

[Anonymous No.]

>>5406675
congrats congrats :D!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>5400337
It's not that being a sex pest is a buff, it's that being morally compromised is a buff. Not specifically for vtubers but basically for all entertainment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5408569
damn there's the real answer, the morally grey guys who are just in it for clout and have no problem manipulating to get to the top are the ones who do get there
I wouldn't be surprised if there aren't similar rrats for the larger female vtubers, there just isn't as nice of a platform as the metoo stuff to air it out on

[Anonymous No.]

>>5406675
honestly its good to spread out from just the vtubing community when you're networking
a lot of people interested in the indie vtubing scene at smaller sizes are vtubers themselves so getting noticed by a streamer outside of that circle can be good for growth!
also as a question since i assume you're the person who has been talking about doing tarot streams the past few days, what kind of spreads do you do? i feel like doing long spreads is kind of bad for viewer retention but i feel like the people getting the readings like them a lot so i'm not sure how to balance out the length of a reading with keeping other people in the stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411977
I usually just do 3-card spreads. Often I'll usually keep things pretty vague and open-ended too, to avoid having hard answers that might lead to someone complaining, and if the reading is too negative I'll often switch to giving practical advice.

I don't think I've had anyone say anything negative about a reading yet though, even the ones where there's a negative answer to their question.

[Anonymous No.]

are there l2d artists that are overall liked and recommended by /asp/
I know there's a resource full of them in the OP but I'd like to know people's opinions

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/iron_vertex/status/1406787290039521280

IV is a bit behind on getting back to applicants it seems, due to focusing workload on finishing current projects vs processing the applications internally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5418380
>I post this to /asp/ and literally a minute later get an email from IV saying my application didn't get accepted
Well RIP. Guess after my art is completely finished I'll have to look for a rigger. Guess I jinxed myself. However, this does mean people can expect to explicitly hear from IV even if you've been turned down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5418380
>you have to send in an application to pay money to have your model rigged
are you fucking serious? this is ridiculous

[Anonymous No.]

>>5419114
For a team of talented people, one of whom has been doing Live2d before 2015? Yes. Very serious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5419114
how is it ridiculous? they're some of the best skilled live2d riggers on the market right now

[Gael !StRaTUSD32 No.]

Which /asp/ies did their own live2d and could help me with the one I'm working on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5419589
I just finished mine today but it's pretty scuffed so I'm not sure I could help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5419589
Fuck off Gael

[Gael !StRaTUSD32 No.]

>>5419692
It's not like it needs to be good, just so I have more of an idea of what I'm doing
>>5419696
Love you too friend :^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>5419475
because you're paying them for the work already? it just seems weird
>oh you're not good enough to pay us 5,000 dollars to rig your model ufufufufu

[Anonymous No.]

>>5419728
What's the issue?

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>>5419742
well.. given that they recently received over 350 applications, each from people who could easily afford that $5k rigging cost... makes sense. they're not going take a rigging commission from a no-name who just has cash but stops streaming 2 weeks later. they're looking for high returns on their work, which is why all of their recent rigging has been industry professionals-turned-vtubers like anime/game voice actors and internet personalities.

[Gael !StRaTUSD32 No.]

>>5419814
Well it's more that I don't have much idea what I'm doing. Right now I'm just creating separate parts to add to live2d studio, it's just an experiment in live2d so far

[Anonymous No.]

>>5419882
If you're drawing you'd need it to me symmetrical. The angles come when you put it in live2d. It's gonna be a little weird if it's at an angle. I didn't actually watch this tutorial, I just figured out things I needed from the rigging tutorials I watched first, but here's this from iron vertex. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3sGye8NKCQ-DHy01xNkRLSKlzZ5VPL6z

[Gael !StRaTUSD32 No.]

>>5420083
The example here isn't even symmetrical

[Anonymous No.]

>>5421014
The body is symmetrical. Of course you can have asymmetrical hair and shit, but you need a front facing view of the character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5421289
you can definitely have a non-front facing character, look at pikamee and tomoshika's new designs that look slightly to the left

[Anonymous No.]

>>5422003
Yeah. If you intend it to be that way. But since he's got it at just a slight turn barely I'm assuming he's either shit at drawing or is trying to draw the turn himself. The body isn't at an angle either.

[Gael !StRaTUSD32 No.]

>>5422305
I'm shit at drawing

[Anonymous No.]

>>5422506
Okay, then you're in clip. Put a symmetrical ruler down on a blank layer, then use the object grabber to select it and in the info panel put it to exactly at half the pixels of your width of your canvas. Right click the little ruler icon on the layer and check "Show on all Layers". Body, eyes, if you're keeping with that hoodie should all by symmetrical. Make a general symmetrical guide for the hair shapes, then you can turn off the ruler layer and draw your non-symmetrical objects. It's easier to draw together for most stuff then cut out the right and left pieces or separate layers. Remember to pad out stuff like the neck so when the head eventually moves you have more of the neck showing. Things like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5316625
what if I don't have an oshi, or even watch vtuber clips or streams
what if I want to just see if I can get in?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5423903
>what if I want to just see if I can get in?
at some reductionist level, that's basically the goal of everyone who applies

[Anonymous No.]

>>5408569
>it's that being morally compromised is a buff.
Are there any well known vtubers that aren't? It seems like many of the western ones are and audiences just don't care cause they're either too forgiving or also morally compromised.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5426469
>well known
no. it's the same shit irl. nice guys (or males who pretend to be nice guys) never get the spotlight, it's only the assholes who act brazenly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5423903
No one's stopping you king

[Anonymous No.]

>>5394911
You can find them if you're lucky. I found a guy that was starting out and had a lot of talent, but no commissions. I took a chance and not only got a discount but a good rig.

[Anonymous No.]

How much of a debuff is babiniku in the west?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5426832
do you know any popular western babis?

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>>5426832
The short answer is, large.

The slightly more complicated answer is more 'how deep in the paint are you going'?

1. Are you planning to adopt a feminine voice?
2. Are you planning to be public about the fact your a babi?
3. Is your avatar just another big-titted anime girl?
4. Is this just a fetish avatar or do you have real content in mind that supports your avatar? (or lore if you're into that RP)

[Anonymous No.]

I'm confident in my art skill but separating all this shit into a reasonable amount of layers so I can try to rig it later is making me wanna die, I have like 40 layers of lineart alone and visualizing how much overlap I need to draw to make it move properly is making my head hurt. Be patient with your artists, this is so much more painful than a regular comission

[Anonymous No.]

>>5427371
i assumed my artist was competent enough to set up a workable price. in my case, i'm paying them $1,200 for my live2d. if they don't do the correct calculations to make sure that that's a reasonable amount of money per hour of effort, that's on them.

fuck those poor saps who are selling live2d models for $200 or lower. that sounds like a shit ton of work for basically below minimum wage. artist is going to be pissed, client is going to be pissed, not a good look overall. price your shit appropriately, there will always be some fucking weirdo who has the money to afford it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5426832
>asking the question
>not simply paving the way for X to become accepted in the west
X in this case being babiniku but it's still funny how this same question keeps being asked. It's like raising a 'never gonna make it' flag before you've even gotten to the start line.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5427447
I agree for sure - I'm not willing to take commissions for live2D at all actually, this is for myself. Underpricing your work undermines the market for other artists too so saying you can do it for 200$ is shitty for everyone. More that I wanted to complain than anything really

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>>5427467
Not that anon, but I'm wholeheartedly embracing my babi. No femme voice, no gimmick as to why I'm a man with a female avatar—I'm going to shoot my shot as best I can. I probably won't be the one to break the mold, but I'm going to do my best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5426919
FoxyJoel
Dot_lvl

so no it isnt very popular.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5406712
I never thought I'd see real advice from real streamers here. Listen to the big people, they're big for a reason. Don't stream after them though, stream when they're part way into their stream. People will click the category, believe it or not. It's how I got a good chunk of my viewers when I played Noita. Never went back and some still watchn.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that kayfabe is worthless

[Anonymous No.]

>>5427778
i mean there are "real streamers" (hit partner) who have posted here giving advice
sometimes that advice isn't always actionable but there are people with decently sized audiences here willing to help people out

[Anonymous No.]

>>5427778
Odette, dat you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5428031
odette picked up steam by getting noticed by /here/ chuubas/viewers, it just so happened that she was playing noita while doing so

[Anonymous No.]

How to organize collab? I don't know how to approach people.

[Anonymous No.]

A little off-topic sorry, but if I'm commissioning fan art for someone else on skeb, what permissions should I be requesting, I assume I'd just specify social media use in general? How much extra should I be offering for that?

[Anonymous No.]

>have a good mic smeared with VST plugins
>good pronunciation and enunciation
>have decent streaming, editing and recording experience
>even light 3D modeling/animation skills
>have evergreen content ideas
>completely stumped at the actual Vtubing part because I can't figure out the software and it's too much of a hassle
I genuinely think I ran out of brain storage for new skills lads

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>>5427707
I honestly like it when guys just don't try to even pretend to be a female despite having a female avatar. Itou-life and beatMARIO are some examples that come to mind. Karoru could technically be one as well, but his character is male despite looking female. Just a guy chilling with his big tiddy avatar and the ones I've usually seen are funny as hell.