/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine this
Hololive fires all of their talents and most of them, including your oshi decide to go indie.
They go on smaller platforms and now have full creative freedom, doing all of the shit you love them for and more.

Would you still support them knowing it's the same person behind the avatar or do you drop them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5293901
>creative freedom
Oh you mean Vshojo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294004
Are you saying you believe your oshi would be a Vshojo whore if she were given creative freedom?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294035
No. What I'm saying is that the reason you watch them in the first place is the lack of "creative freedom"

[Anonymous No.]

>>5293901
They can fire every member except Kiara and Calli. Just burn the other ones down, I don't care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294093
But I'm curious why you associate Vshojo with "creative freedom". What if your oshi were to gain that creative freedom? If you don't think she would become a Vshojo whore had she been granted it, there is no reason to bring up Vshojo in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5293901
OP thinks that dick and pussy jokes is creative freedom

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294140
Unfathomably the opposite of based

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294194
Asacoco
Holostars and Hololive collabs
Banging on desks
Suicide jokes
Any form of "edgy" content
Swimsuit streams
ASMR
All of these things have been banned by Cover at some point (even if the ban has since been lifted) and are not dick and pussy jokes. You are well aware of what he means.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5293901
No, because most of the anons here don't like the holos, they like Hololive™.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294289
What was wrong with Asacoco anyway? Was it just the drug references? They didn't have to get rid of the whole thing for that.

[Anonymous No.]

i'd be more worried that some of the dedicated translators in chat would disappear because while i'm getting better at understanding them, being able to "check my work" as it gets verified in chat is so incredibly nice

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294343
also they would lose the avatar. Nobody watches anime for the VA, it's the same with Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294375
The Kanata hanging incident that pissed off moralists

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294429
>Nobody watches anime for the VA
How new are you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294004
saying sex jokes isn't creative

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294289
Who fucking cares about any of that shit? The only remotely interesting thing on there is ASMR and it's banned because YT will kill their channel for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294583
>Not caring about swimsuit streams
It's okay to be gay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294289
>Holostars and Hololive collabs
literally who cares and they already do this

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294583
nijis never stopped doing ASMR even when hololive banned it lol the youtube thing is nothing more than an excuse

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294004
Anon, stop letting Vshojo live rent free in your head.
We've seen the girls have creative freedom, before the vtuber boom blasted hololive into number 1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294654
>they already do this
Reading reps.
>even if the ban has since been lifted You don't need to like the homos, but limiting the content their talents can produce at times arbitrarily and then removing and implementing bans arbitrarily and then excusing it by saying "w-who cares about that shit anyway!" just makes you sound like a Cover shill.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294612
Fanart is 100x better, why would you care about the paper doll on the screen showing a little more skin

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294736
God damn it, I always fuck up greentexting.
>even if the ban has since been lifted
The cutoff begins here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294657
Well most likely, cover banned it because of the risk, since they barely tried to even fix the monetization problem in the first place.
It took coco begging them to pick up streamlabs and her getting into contact with someone with influence to get monetization back, and then they just dropped the streamlabs idea because youtube monetized them again

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294772
Fanservice should not be censored, simple as.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294657
Lots of ASMRtists have issues with monetization, just because Nijis have such pitiful views even the algorithm doesn't notice them doesn't mean it's not a problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294811
And that is why Cover is incompetent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294866
if your le evil youtube headcanon had any weight cover wouldn't have since unbanned ASMR to begin with, nice try though

[Anonymous No.]

>>5293901
I wanna see mori fuck some guy on stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294429
Uhh

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294906
Every time something gets really big there's a sudden YT demonitization wave, it's how Alphabet saves money. They were keeping their talents from getting fucked by YouTube's cost-saving measures

[Anonymous No.]

>>5293901
Yes, I'd at least give them a try and hope they maintained their confidence and streaming style that they gained through Hololive. They've changed so much that I'd hope that even if Hololive died, the 'spark' it created in them wouldn't die as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294459
>>5294988
Considering manga is a thing, nobody watches anime for the voice actors and that's a fact.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294812
>>>/v/
Retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>5295046
cover is bigger than ever and they're back to doing ASMR, they banned it arbitrarily like how they banned Coco from Asacoco and banned Chammers from making her schizo lore videos, just accept that it's an issue of branding and that cover is retarded and changes what's allowed and what's not like the weather

[Anonymous No.]

>>5295082
People knowingly watch shit because it has their favorite VAs in it all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5295085
If you unironically support the censoring of Japanese media you do not belong on this board. Cover bootlickers are something else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294004
They can't say nigga like Miko and holos can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294736
i'm no cover shill i'm just sick of people begging for girl boy collabs as if that's all the boys need in order to 'succeed' when they're doing fine
btw roberu is collabing with suisei soon. so i hope that shuts all the beggars up

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294004
>vsh*jo
>creative
pick one retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>5295285
I'm not begging for Homo collabs here. I'm saying the talents should've always been allowed to do it if they wanted. Big difference.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5295162
The ASMR demonitization wave is over, Coco is washed up and unoriginal, Haachama's schitzo shit was old and boring. I hope Haato is the next out so I don't need to hear retards defending her garbage content anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>5295169
like 2% of people

[Anonymous No.]

>>5295082
Seiyuu culture is huge in japan, you retarded faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5295325
You're a genius anon, WOW.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5293901
i dont think fubuki will drop or leave hololive its her literal life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294004
Peepee Poopoo SEX Vagina!

[Anonymous No.]

>>5295330
Just because you personally find content boring does not mean the content deserves to be banned outright. It's a horrible precedent and an idiotic mentality. When you support Cover's decision to allow e-celeb and Vshojo collabs and ban Coco's actually unique content that once propelled her to the top of the superchat earners' list you sound like a moron.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5295399
Was the question of OP for the Japanese people on here? NO.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5293901
I'd follow them. It's their content I like, the avatar is secondary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5295330
it begins

[Anonymous No.]

>>5293901
It doesn't work that way
t. unironic artiafag

[Anonymous No.]

>>5295467
Mori and Kiara should have their heads shaved for bringing that garbage around, don't get me wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>5295712
You either agree with Cover's decisions on which content is acceptable or you do not. Pick one and only one. Cover is equally at fault as Mori and Kiara for allowing those collabs to happen despite obvious fan backlash in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5295804
Are you fucking retarded? Mori and Kiara's bullshit is a clear example of shit that happens when you don't restrict your talents enough. Kiara publicly begged for this dumb shit for weeks, management should have held firm

[Anonymous No.]

>>5293901
Going Indie is tough for japanese talent though, isn't it? I'm not deep enough into this shit to imagine.
If the EN girls got fired tho, I'd watch with interest. I think they could each make a better chunk of profit independently, with the English-speaking entertainment industry being such the shitty mess that it currently is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5296098
Are *you* retarded? You're defending Cover banning harmless content while they allow actually dangerous content to go untested. You have to have actual mush for brains if you don't think that shows that Cover management's idea of what content is banworthy is warped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5296213
>*you*
go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>5296632
You're right, sorry. Are (you) retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5296213
Both should be banned, that retarded dice game should be banned. ENMA is a retard for giving into the dumbfuck duo

[Baka No.]

>>5295330
>The ASMR demonitization wave is over, Coco is washed up and unoriginal, Haachama's schitzo shit was old and boring. I hope Haato is the next out so I don't need to hear retards defending her garbage content anymore

what else do you hate about Hololive/ V-Tubers in general? I'm interested to know, please do redpill me on it

[Anonymous No.]

>>5296814
Enjoy your family friendly content from now on I suppose, where anything sexual or edgy in the slightest is banned for maximum advertiserbux. This is why HoloEN has so many SJW fans by the way, and why Matsuri doesn't talk about lolis as much as she used to and why Choco self censored herself after she began to talk about shota in a stream. It's all good censorship until it begins to affect something (you) like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5296902
Fuck all of HoloIN, third-worlders should be picking my coffee for 5 cents an hour not streaming

[Anonymous No.]

>>5297054
Go back to watching your retarded e-girls like you were before Melody brought you in, trash

[Anonymous No.]

>>5295420
Yes I know

[Anonymous No.]

>>5297347
There is nothing wrong with loli and shota. Cope harder, Venti.

[Anonymous No.]

I'd follow Watame anywhere, whether that's to the indie scene, Nijisanji, or into the 3D idol zone

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294375
It was being produced everyday, so management couldn't check everything, which lead to a couple of yabs like using copyrighted material, katnatahangining.gif and eventually the Taiwan situation. Ever since the Taiwan yab, cover checks stream ideas beforehand to prevent these kinds of things from happening again, which made it so that coco had to get permission from cover to air each episode which pretty much meant that she couldn't get away with a lot of things, so she pretty much stopped doing asacoco.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5297445
Of course not, but they don't have to constantly talk about fetish shit on stream. The worst thing about fags and furries is they constantly have to remind you of what they are. It's ok to ask the girls to shut the fuck up and try and be entertaining once in a while

[Anonymous No.]

>>5297747
Unironically the same for most of the current Holos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5293901
Yeah, I would definitely follow her. Avatar is secondary after all, also if they are real friends like they say, collabs would be a normal thing, so after all the only thing what is missing is the avatar

[Anonymous No.]

>>5297979
It's not about constantly being allowed to talk about fetish material. It's about being allowed to talk about it in the first place. Right now Hololive is going in the direction where they clearly discourage talents from talking about it at all which is bad enough. If you think this will only get less censored as Vslutjos like Nyanners continue to be invited to collabs you are delusional. Cover wants the western prude audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5293901
you can go with this hololive, or you can go with that hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>5295634
Artia and her fanbase help anti spam Hololive. Artia is exceptional case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5293901
I don't have a hololive oshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>5298173
Matsuri's fetish shit got really tasteless around the time I stopped watching her stuff, she definitely needed to be reigned in. This slippery slope garbage is stupid, they're correcting the trash that has piled up in their ranks now that they can see where that kind of shit leads

[Anonymous No.]

So, how would you compare the situation right now everyone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5299092
>This slippery slope garbage is stupid
Except that we can see it in action right now. First Trash Taste. Then the IDs collab with Connor in APEX. Then the Mori Gigguk collab. Then the Vshojo collab ban is lifted. Now Kiara is partnering up with an anti-white feminist and talking about reading the handmaiden's tale. Slippery slope is all too real and if you have any fondness for how Hololive used to be a year ago you won't support the banning of sexual content in an effort to appeal to these invaders.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5299388
That's bullshit and you know it. Le funne manko game is something Westerners would love

[Anonymous No.]

>>5299772
If you don't think SJWs will use any chance to bitch about le objectification of women you're out of your mind. You're saying that entertainment that's anti-politics, progressively getting less edgy and progressively limits their talents from talking about lolishota wouldn't appeal to these invaders. That's bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5300044
That's an insane reach, take your pills Nijishill

[Anonymous No.]

>>5301466
Nice job resorting to namecalling because you have no arguments. Just look at the Hololive fans who tried to cancel Mamaloni over her art. This is not a reach, this is reality. This is who Hololive appeals to by censoring this content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5301590
Not him, redpill me on this

[Anonymous No.]

>>5301721
A few months ago some SJW HoloEN fans wrote up a big document trying to cancel Mamaloni for "sexualizing" Gura. The document's since been deleted but you can find people talking about it in the archives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5301910
>Failed so hard he deleted his Twitter account
I see, fuck them

[Gentleman No.]

>>5297236
>Fuck all of HoloIN, third-worlders should be picking my coffee for 5 cents an hour not streaming
Indeed. Totally understandable

[Anonymous No.]

>>5301466
Anon, what you want is to appeal to conservative ideas which often are prudish, well guess what; SJWs are just as prudish and basicly want the same thing but for different reasons.
The only difference now is who businesses now appealing to, the gays and trannys instead of just white old men and Karens.
Censorship is why the fuckers at /pol/ were pushed to 4chan to begin with, the tide of control went against them and the only place left they were allowed was this hell site.
The same applies to hololive, restrict them and they just go to their own thing leaving the rest of hololive with sterile idols who don't do anything worth noting.
There's a reason Idols were never all that popular in the west outside of anime girls compared to other Japanese industries the west picked up, the culture was so sterile while also having a super seedy underbelly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5303381
Holo INdia isn't a holo branch, I think you both mean holo InDonesia

[Anonymous No.]

>>5301590
The fact that shitty people dislike tasteless garbage for shitty reasons doesn't mean it's not tasteless garbage. They haven't stopped talking about lolisho stuff altogether, they told Matsuri to tone down her stupid fetish shit because it's fucking embarrassing. The retarded ironic weebs all loved Haato's stupid grimderp shit, does that mean that Hololive is simultaneously scaring off SJW garbage and attracting them. This narrative is stupid

[Anonymous No.]

>>5303944
>The fact that shitty people dislike tasteless garbage for shitty reasons
So you see lolishota as tasteless garbage. Good job revealing your true thoughts, Venti. Feel free to go back to Twitter now.

[Anonymous No.]

Absolutely, I like Kanatan and her roommate, so I'll follow the roommate to whatever she wanted to do

[Anonymous No.]

>>5303944
>it's fucking embarrassing.
So you're choosing to watch something that embarrasses you and then complain when it embarrasses you?
Anon, just stop watching stuff you're uncomfortable with, you'll save yourself the embarrassment.
>does that mean that Hololive is simultaneously scaring off SJW garbage and attracting them.
The SJWs orbit normies like vultures, waiting for the next big thing to join in on. They're not attracted to the thing because of what it is but because there is a group of people enjoying something and they think they can make themselves a part of.
They're the fat selfish animal that pushes others aside to eat from the feeding troth and then throw a fit when there's something they don't like in it.
So no matter what, SJWs are being attracted by the amount of people in an interest, not hololive itself. All holo can do is filter them by putting stuff they don't like into the troth and hope they'll move on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5303504
Oh no, your lack of reps is showing. He thinks all Japanese idols do is sing and shake people's hands. A year ago, long before you ever started caring about Hololive there was a thing called the Coco line, when Coco would pull dumb gaijin shit the talents all knew they could go no further than that without getting chewed out by management. Coco endured a lot of meetings and arguments with management to push the envelope. The talents have always been on a leash of tastefulness and respectability, and it's best for management to ensure another retard like Coco doesn't pop up to fuck things up again

[Anonymous No.]

>>5304779
It's embarrassing the company, retard. Her senpais laugh at her for this stupid shit, and so do most normal people. She found an audience of retarded redditors to pander to and then cries when management tells her she needs to be actually entertaining, it's pathetic

[Anonymous No.]

>>5305031
>embarrasing the company
And now you're speaking for a company whose culture you're not even orthogonally related to.
Go whine over your sexual hangups over in the confession both. No one here wants to hear it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5296213
>while they allow actually dangerous content to go untested.
>Vshojo collabs pose a danger to Hololive

Jesus FUCKING christ, please overdose on your meds so I don't have to see this stupidity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5304817
I started watching around the time Coco debuted, I know that she was pushing the boundaries, but her pushing brought people in which brought success, this board wouldn't exist without her doing that. Now they're handicapping themselves by undoing what she did to even get them this far.
>>5305031
Anon, what do you care about someone doing embarrassing shit to themselves, could it be you're cringing? Showing empathy unintentionally for another persons plight? Stop caring about how others carry themselves, let them live their lives how they want, if they're not harming anyone and are more so helping people then let them be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5305381
Her senpais started making fun of her in her Haachama cooking days, do you think they stopped when she jumped to retarded chuuni shit? She's a fucking joke in the company which is why they let her go so far before cutting her off

[Anonymous No.]

"creative freedom" is code from "creative sex" and "sex having freedom"
No thanks
Covers cut and rules are the chastity belt fee

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294093
it'll be the guy who wants to go over to the next thread ripping on matsuri for wanting to chill and play apex at 4am

[Anonymous No.]

>>5305971
The embarrassing shit reflects badly on her co-workers, that's why no one has officially collabed with her in nearly 6 months. You can bring a retard around and people will laugh for a while, but eventually people just know you as the guy with the retard. She was locked out of the EN server because management knew she would be fucking insufferable

[Anonymous No.]

>>5305971
Good, maybe with Coco the gaijin bitch gone the normies will fuck off and we can finally enjoy our hobby in peace

[Anonymous No.]

>>5295535
Before this starts i wanna make it known i never liked her and i sure twerking amd i hate for twerking. I was fucking a girl once and she started twerking for me i had to ask her to stop, is just fucking cringy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5306067
>t. expert on japanese matters Ken-sama

[Anonymous No.]

>>5307034
Your hobby is now damaged irreparably thanks to gaijin. Anything fun about Hololive has been neutered in an effort to appeal to westerners and advertisers and kneeling to literal whos getting offended is the norm. You are also one of the offended westerners if you think lolishota talk and le funny dice game are scandalous enough to be necessary censorship, by the way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5307034
>the normies will fuck off
You mean you prude faggots along with all the EN homos?

[レーッツ・セィムプ No.]

No, no, i think you're all wrong, >>5304817 >>5305031 >>5305381 >>5305817 >>5305971 >>5306067 >>5306130 >>5306707

because,

>Imagine if Mr. Hololive made your oshii lose her job, and then,
>she's allowed to have a B.F. so you can support her even better now, and then,
>she wouldn't cally ou a simp but actually give you the most heartfelt thanks you ever heard, and then,
>you actually go on a date with her in tokyo, and then,
>you get married but not until after 2 straight years of constant cardio-intensive sexual fucking (Endurance 100), and then,
>you move into a swankey home together because of being so cool + rich
>And it was all thanks to how much you love and respect your oshii enough to save her from the execs at Hololive's cruel censorship decisions!
>:-D

[Anonymous No.]

>>5307441
>Coco brought in a ton of normies, but it's definitely not normies going nuclear about her fucking off
You're not fitting in, Reddit cunt, go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>5307410
The gajin that Coco pulled into the community with her retarded antics? I never said I was against all lolisho talk, I said that the lesbo has a tendency to go overboard with her fetish shit and it's not a bad thing for management to ask her to reign it in a little. The dice game is the exact kind of dumb shit that westerners would latch onto, I don't know what kind of point you think you're making with that

[Anonymous No.]

>>5307641
>normies
Look, I know you want to fit in so I'll spoonfeed this to you. It's "normalfags". "Normies" is the censored Twitter tranny version of the word, and it's hilariously ironic that you use the word whilst complaining about outsiders. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones and all that. Now carry on kvetching about things you know nothing about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5308011
Coco being censored and done away with is the last relics of Cover's SJW filter being done away with. No more talents saying "faggot" or calling themselves "retarded" or making suicide jokes, no more pressuring kouhai for laughs and insinuating she'll make them pregnant, just family friendly content. The Redditors she brought in were detrimental indeed, but I can't imagine being happy a walking filter such as Coco is being done away with. The ENs are pressured against swearing, even. Anything remotely controversial is being done away with. You excuse every bit of censorship being done, but the truth is it's these acts of censorship that appeal to Vshojo whores and woke types to begin with. Do you think that it's an unlikely scenario that a big westerner refuses a collab until Cover bends to their will? China already did as much. Saying "it's okay that Cover told Matsuri to clean up her act" and "it's okay that Asacoco was banned" and "it's okay that swimsuit streams were banned" just shows your complete and utter inability to look at the greater picture and see how absolutely neutered Hololive is becoming as a whole. And yes, the funny dice game is a filter, the fact that it bothers a westerner advocating for censorship like (you) is proof enough of that, manko isn't spoken in polite company for a good reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5308035
>kvetching
So you're an election tourist? That's way less interesting

[Anonymous No.]

>>5308412
You don't even know the difference between the words normie and normalfag. Don't use words you don't know the meaning of.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5308011
lol
Cocofags goes brrrrr

[Anonymous No.]

>>5308483
5 years is a long time to be on vacation, why don't you finally head back where you belong. Normie has been used on here since Poopoo peepee and GBP were a thing, unfortunately that's before you people got exiled from Reddit and decided to infect our board

[Anonymous No.]

>>5295352
That's why they're so vocal, to get attention and backup anon's shitty point.

Kinda like how 2% of the population makes 95% of the twitter posts, or has 1000% over representation on the supreme court. Life is very unbased in the fine details.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5293901
not sure because she might start talking about her boyfriend and i am not a cuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5295252
They can, they just don't want to, because they understand how bad this word is.
They're just decent people.
You probably don't understand that concept.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5310477
Shut the fuck up nigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294140
>fire everyone except for Kiara and Calli
Dare I say based?
Fuck trinityfags and EOP's who watch vtubers they don't understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5294035
Yeah

[Anonymous No.]

>>5311535
Then your oshis always been a whore, if you can't handle them at their worse, you don't deserve them at their best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5310477

B8

But no, it’s because they’re told not to say it. I don’t think Japanese women have any deep understanding of an English racial slur