/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Sodapoppin Thread No.]

New vtuber in town

[Anonymous No.]

>Twitch
pass

[Anonymous No.]

are those gura emotes?

[Sodapoppin Thread No.]

>>5286307
Franker Face Z, a 3rd party tool

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286275
Soulless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286275
>probably trolling with a throwaway l2d
>better than all the vshitjo designs
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>twitch

AWAY

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286344
better rigging/tracking than hololive

[Anonymous No.]

Soda is bored I guess and got a model thats better than 80% of western vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>PEDOS PEDOS PEDOS PEDOS
heh

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286344
thats exactly whats happening

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286380
Having fuck you money to just throw at some good artists and riggers to stream as a vtuber like 2 or three times must feel nice

[Anonymous No.]

Dabbing and burping, this is everything I didn't know I needed in an e-girl(male).

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286326
yea but FFZ is like a third party thing and I don't know...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286400
he's outclassing them with a troll stream, that's great. This is why you pay for a decent artist.

[Anonymous No.]

its face does a good job of matching his laugh

[Anonymous No.]

cute!

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286430
take your meds schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286434
this is the same guy that bought hundreds of pokemon packs just to rip and deface the rare cards

[Anonymous No.]

the fact the mouth moves on both is weird

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286326
Are they monetized? Cover can get very anal about shit like this since it's not on twitter/youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286410
I mean, he's probably going to make back all his expenses back this stream and then some, plus he gets the epin content to rope in new viewers plus he gets to have fun

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286515
they aren't

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286515
donation based probably

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286515
No, they're free to use, and anyone can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286515
no you don't pay for those

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286275
He seem to know how to VA, which is cool. Not as cringe as you'd expect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286515
It's okay, someone was spamming how lolicon is just a legal term for pedophilia. I don't think it's worth it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286478
it's a meme

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286537
>>5286539
Thanks, anons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286275
>Twitch
>furry tag
>depression as a tag
>techwear jacket animegirl #76387426

nope

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286275
Does she make femdom/findom remarks? otherwise i won't bother

[Anonymous No.]

IT IS ACTUALLY BETTER THAN ALL THE VSHOJOS

hahahahahaha

[Anonymous No.]

did soda get bored of wow already also what the fuck this model has effort put in, this shit isnt cheap but neither is soda poor. did he really just do this shit for a 1 stream gag.

[Anonymous No.]

So who loses the most when every esport team turns to vtubing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286574
He is making fun of Twitch with those tags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286275
I want him to collab with Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

remember that sodapoppin played with Artia and is friend of the vshojo girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286579
its a dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286582
that wouldn't be hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286568
I have been outmemed, time to fucking die...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286598
He probably could have gotten it for free if he wanted to but he throws money to all of his creators.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286556
twitch chat for "popular" streamers are cancer as usual.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286602
3DPD w*men.

[Anonymous No.]

imagine being a girl outclassed by a male depressed furry.

[Anonymous No.]

>what about a cute voice changer
>"my voice is already cute bitch"

[Anonymous No.]

Sodas been great since he realized how sweet his gig is and just decided to not take any of it seriously. He had some dude from vrchat acting as a stream mascot for him thanking subs by writing them on a wall as a mute catgirl. Then that catgirl gained like 1600 paid subs for a few months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286434
you're being disingenuous if you think this looks better than froot or vei

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286771
all the vshojos look like deviantart designs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286723
Yeah, holoEN is finished.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286795
this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286771
better than hajime, melody, zen

[Anonymous No.]

men literally do everything better, even vtubing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286739
The streamer having a personal mute fad was 10/10 fap material so long as you didn't think about how very, very gay it was.

[Anonymous No.]

Jesus fucking Christ, I haven't watched this guy in years, is he just a bland variety streamer now? All he's doing is watching game trailers on Steam right now.

[Anonymous No.]

Casually mogs the top vtuber group on twitch

Bahroo and Soda, i guess this is the equivalent of mansanji there, it's all babinikus on top of it. Get btfo vshitshow

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286275
Ugly shit ass nerd dudebro american

Hard pass

[Anonymous No.]

Hopefully he uses it this more often since the model is so nice. Just should use it instead of nocam-streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286854
soda is based you idiot

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286854
does whatever he feels like these days, sounds kind of comfortable. play whatever the fuck you want to a bunch of people and make fuck you levels of money

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286871
I wish, but most probably gets ditched after today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286854
Was streaming wow tbc classic 24/7 for the past weeks. Variety streamer otherwise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286871
this is going to be a 1 and done 99.9% likely if not itll just return on random gagstreams down the line. A shame since the model seems really nice and well made for a shitpost

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286854
he's choosing a game he only has been playing WOW for the past month

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286843
The best part is that it was gay. When Happy revealed his voice Soda seemed so flustered.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286854
That's how he made Among Us popular.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286843
True. Happy shouldn't have done a voice reveal, he had a decent thing going with the speech to text and cameoing on sodas stream whenever he got drunk on vrchat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286854
Soda is more interesting than your boring ass shark.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286854
Once you've established your community and people watch your content for you, you can do whatever the fuck you want

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286857
dawn of a babiniku era? please let it be so

[Anonymous No.]

>Autists in the thread
NOOOO HES ON TWITCH AND MALE AND FROM THE US THAT MEANS HES CRINGE
>People without mental illness
Haha holy shit hes showing up the giants of the industry with a fucking shitpost

[Anonymous No.]

After several years of watching him be a retard I'm amused there's still people that don't know everything soda does is shitposting and are taking this seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286275
Holy fucking kek, Soda, this actual assumed faggot who showed a fuckdoll with a mouth full of 1 week old cum, has a better model and gimmick than the entirety of Vshojo, the supposed vtuber queens of the west.
Actual fucking reality

[Anonymous No.]

it's amazing how a guy shitposting can do a better job than people who make vtubing a career.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286857
>men better at being anime girls than women
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286275
https://mobile.twitter.com/Sodapoppintv/status/1405966201315024897?s=19

Damn this nigga deadass just lump Korone together with those dickheads huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286609
Soda kicked artia from his guild

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286275
Just gonna put this out here:
Watch SquChan with me on Twitch! https://www.twitch.tv/squchan?sr=a
SquChan drew his avatar and she's actually a vtuber. Her friend MrRollingCircle rigged it. If you Soda's avatar and you wanna check a real vtuber give Squ a chance, her avatar has even more animations and rigging is top class. She mostly does drawing streams so that might be downside if you're not into that. She is European and has an accent, which could be positive or negative for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286871
Yeah. Him with a cute avatar somehow works

[Anonymous No.]

>soda just shitposting is already better than shartemis
Can't make this shit up

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286275
>His voice not in synch with his model makes me so fucking angry.

[Anonymous No.]

how can vshitjo compete?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286883
>>5286899
>>5286906
>>5286913
>>5286941
>>5286951
>>5286956
>>5286958
>>5286964
>>5286983
Thanks for the (You)s, my good friends

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287045
>niggerspeak
why do you do this

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286598
He'll just play WoW on his second channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287017
Another streamer with half of sodas concurrent viewers revealed he made 400k in the month of April alone. Soda has been doing this consistently at the top of twitch for almost 10 years, he has fuck you money compared to those vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

This is what 7 months of no WoW updates does to people

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286275
>30k
What the fuck she's getting Gura numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287045
ultra based, mogs on all of the western chuubas with a shitpost

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287083
poggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287070
its essentially gap moe. his vrchat avatar has the same thing going

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287083
Here's another. *kisses you deep and hard* *retracts with a loud and sloppy POP*

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287045
He unironically enjoyed the "water in fire" clip a while back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287105
>el no sabe

[Sodapoppin Thread No.]

>>5287105
>she
it's a dude and he's been streaming for almost 10 years now

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287060
why would anyone be a serious vtuber in the west, its a meme, a joke

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287105
This is pretty good bait, well done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286956
>When Happy revealed his voice Soda seemed so flustered.
Not just flustered, but kinda pissed/confused as to why Happy would want to speak now.
It kinda ruined their relationship, especially considering Soda said there'd be no more Happy cam in the future.

[Anonymous No.]

haha live2d goes brrr
28k viewers just for reacting to youtube vids btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287045
>Obama
Thats quality shitpost

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287060
If you *like Soda's avatar is what I meant to say

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287117
Reminds me of those disney parodies where they all do drugs and shit. This one is tamer with a really cute avatar that can dab in a cute way. I like it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287105
Soda could lay back in a chair getting wasted and call his subs and chat retarded for hours and still pull 30k, not too surprising.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287206
if holos were allowed to react to youtube vids you know they fucking would. its easy content for both parties to enjoy as low effort as it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287173
>why would anyone be a serious vtuber in the west, its a meme, a joke
HoloEN exists and is one of the the most popular vtuber branches

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287206
That's only slightly above his average viewers you dumb newnigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286771
They might look good and clean on the design level but they lack any gimmick that make them memorable.
Hololive designs work this much because they are easily identifiable and have strong color pattern which Vshoujo lacks a fucking lot for every girl except Melody, even Nyanners pink shade is forgettable.
Also they still all looks like complete whores and his model is cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287206
he gets that much grinding on wow

[Anonymous No.]

how did the artist manage to make the dabbing adorable

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286275
wait I heard this name before, isn't it some man?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286344
nijigger: detected

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287105
you suddenly realize how irrelevant chubas outside japan are.

[Anonymous No.]

twitch zoomys at it again with their raid

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287258
thats a japanese company genius

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287316
>hating vshojo
>nijisanji
lmao holofag really loves throwing every shit at niji hahahaha

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287258
holoEN earn fucking nothing compared to Soda and top Twitch streamers.

[Anonymous No.]

This is one of the most well known content creators on Twitch, and in general. You guys aren't into Twitch culture, but he's huge,

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287342
>acting like youtube is somehow any better

[Anonymous No.]

Best thing about this is his viewers will design 20 shirts based on this character design he'll never use again then he'll sell them on his store at the lowest markup possible and somehow still turn a profit on then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287206
It's funny seeing people realize how well actual streamers do. XQC can literally do nothing and get 100k for example.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287418
Soda and XQC are not representative of streamers in general. Not by a longshot. They've also been busting ass for literally a decade

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287448
Even an average popular streamer is making millions on Twitch, with no 50% Cover cut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287381
i don't give a fuck what twitchkiddies and normalfags like desu

[Anonymous No.]

this shitpost avatar doesnt have any right being this cute and good

[Anonymous No.]

Are we being raided?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287372
Neither does HoloJP from what I can tell, spachas seem really rare, though I guess there's more 10K yen donos.
Unless they're normally sent at the end of stream I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

holy fuck that pouty face is pretty cute

[Anonymous No.]

>a shitpost is better than most "professional" L2Ds
love it

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287471
What's your definition of average popular streamer? Isn't that an oxymoron?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287478
Sadly no, this is who you share a board with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287515
Well he hired indies who know what they're doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287448
>Busting ass
Please keep quiet and only resume posting when you've reached 18 years of age.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287418
>>5287448
Xqc is absolutely unwatchable, but AFAIK he streams pretty much every single day for 7+ hours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287478
yea your holobubble is getting penetrated

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287206
>reacting to youtube videos

That's like 80% of twitch content

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287448
The thing is that all these guys and the ones growing now will still be around when the vtuber fad dies down and these girls who have been busting their asses creating "real" content get fewer and fewer viewers, or even stabilize. There's people smaller than him that make tens of thousands of month, and the bigger ones make hundreds of thousands of dollars without even touching their money from twitch payments.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287538
And why aren't the "pro vtubers" doing the same? This guy plays WoW 24/7.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287522
a 5-10k streamer with 1k subs on twitch is pulling in more money than a 20-30k streamer on youtube

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287342
>>5287478
>>5287533
Nah, guy has been a better shitposter than most of you fags for over a decade now.

[Anonymous No.]

Is..... is this what it's really like on the other side?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287478
This board has been reddit/twitch since its' inception, how else do you think a vshojo thread stays alive in here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287615
more coherent than a holoEN chat, and?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287478
A raid would imply that they would fuck off after they've gotten what they wanted. This is an ongoing invasion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287615
You are missing the extension BetterTTV

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287615
those are all emotes you need a 3rd party extension for

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287615
youre in a stadium with 30,000 people at a point saying anything means nothing so it just becomes this. You can see this in really big holostreams aswell it isnt unique to twitch besides the type of emote being spammed

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287615
>not having BTTV
newfag

[Anonymous No.]

Design is plain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287615
quit pretending like holoEN chats are better

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287617
>how else do you think a HoloEN thread stays alive in here?
fix'd ;)

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287615
this is a omega L nerd

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287615
You prefer that dumbass gura emote?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287563
Nepotism probably, same reason why that Gura rigger keeps getting jobs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287478
>Are we being raided?
A lot of people here don't watch exclusively vtubers and on the rare occasion they're not I'd say one of the most likely streamers people here would watch when they watch something else would be soda. You just never knew because it's not relevant normally to the board. He's been streaming for so many years a lot of people have watched him at some point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287617
>t. r/hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287478
yes
enjoy

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287691
Yeah, after seeing Mori's and Kiara's recent collabs I can't refute you on that one kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286275
Kek. Haven't watched this guy in years. Glad to see he is still the same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287615
All chats with large audiences are like that.
Well thought out messages get washed away by the mass of spam, so there's no point in even bothering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287634
>>5287663
>>5287665
>>5287678
>>5287681
>>5287688
>>5287693
>>5287698
GOT EM AGAIN

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287475
Your favourite chuubas wouldn't be playing Among Us (which totally isn't used as a networking tool like Minecraft) without Soda
He may say that he wasn't the first one to have found out about it on Twitch, but he sure helped popularize it a fuckton

[Anonymous No.]

Say what you want about soda but his kusoge streams are kino

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287615
>Is..... is this what it's really like on the other side?
You're missing the extension for any of that to make sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287719
shark doesn't care because she can be boring and still have an army of drones

just hire watame's rigger you lazy fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287759
anon i....

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287586
Jesus this is stupid. Income depends on dozens of factors and live views is one of the least important.

Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo78Gy247ak&t=126s to see how the top streamers have changed over time. A few have managed to stay at or near the top but there's a lot of turnover too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287759
All me

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287615
>dance emotes when music is on
>scared emotes when something scary happens
>serial cheater emotes when ntr happens
i like twitch chats who use bttv better than OMG SAY HI HONEY XD chats or essay writers

[Anonymous No.]

I guess it works because these streamers had to focus on actually providing content noticeably better than other streamers to get ahead, rather than following a "vtubing" standard and coasting on your avatar/inherent worth as a person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287804
outplayed

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286275
This is what Stars EN will look like

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287815
The metrics that make twitch viewers worth more is their lack of apocalypse so far leading to better ad rates and the fact that whale viewers can shotgun blast 50 premium subs to any random viewers which will increase retention.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287815
On Twitch you can do a bounty and get paid $5000 an hour to play league, or another game.

Not even Coco or Rushia on a non-event day can do that.

[Anonymous No.]

he has a better rig than fucking gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287912
pretty sure thats just the larger streamers and we only know that shit because some told us, we dont know what cover/talent get paid out for shit like xbox gamepass shilling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287912
>you can
Streamers with a huge fanbase can. Small channels get like 20 dollars for the same bounty top streamers get four figures for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287904
That and the culture is entirely different. I've a small indie chuuba with 25 viewers on a good day, and I've got guys who are your "average" twitch viewer basically bankrolling my stream with 350+ bucks a month and i stream maybe 3 times a week for a few hours. and I'm not even a girl, nor do I flirt with them. People genuinely like supporting those they like watching even if the overall content is what you can get somewhere else. Twitch streaming is all about personalities, not just stream or game content, unless you're an esports guy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287945
not hard, given the shark looks like a fucking square when they look to the side, but no one cares cause the streamer doesn't care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287945
Who doesn't? I could do a better rig

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287945
Anon, the only holo with a worse rig than Gura is Anya.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287965
even small streamers on Twitch are millionaires. These guys are making even more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286771
>you're being disingenuous if you think this looks better than froot or vei
does anon actually believe this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288015
> even small streamers on Twitch are millionaires
Lol. Examples?

[Anonymous No.]

Will Holostars EN be a thing now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287478
no its the opposite, most regular /vt/ users havent even been to 4chan and dont understand the concequences of being the first /eceleb/ board

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287956
Cover is going to eat a huge chunk of whatever it is and do fuck all for their talent besides, it's kind of impressive really

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288037
probably talking about lotto winners who decide to stream because they have nothing better to do

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287829
At least half of Twitch lingo/emote names originates from 4chan, whether knowingly or not.
So really, it's not THAT different.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288037
no really, even smaller streamers make 6 figures easy, and Twitch also gives you more if you are more successful from sub revenue (better deals). But they make a shitload off donations and don't have the Cover 50% tax and 30% youtube tax.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288054
Imagine if Connor and Gigguk get in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288015
your perception as to what small streamers mean is skewed anon, i watch a 400 viewer twitch streamer and he said he makes about as much as a 20~ streamer who is going to drop streaming once hes done uni and gets into his profession. He showed some stats at 400 average viewers he was in the literal top of the crop streamers .01% basically and was only doing that well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287840
Similar principle to camwhores. They can pull a few thousand easy but breaking those higher thresholds is going to be impossible because it requires more than a hot body. They never had to lay that groundwork to begin with so at the top it's mostly men.
Not that there aren't really good female streamers, but it's rare.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288120
For perspective, this guy is making more than Rushia and Coco. They actually make a lot less after the 30% and 50% superchat taxes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288093
I think "small" here is people in the mid hundreds, low thousands. While it depends on the steamer, this is true but the 6 figures is more likely in the 100,000 range

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288093
Lol. Examples?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288120
20 dollar an hour job* sorry not 20 viewer streamer*

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288054
No

[Anonymous No.]

REMEMBER THA SODAPOPPIN HATE CHINKS AND KICKED OUT ARTIA OF HIS WOW GUILD AFTER THE TAIWAN INCIDENT

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287904
What are you on about? twitch ads are worthless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288151
It's hard to tell bait from retards when twitch is involved. The bar is basically the floor

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288184
Who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288184
Based

[Anonymous No.]

the question here is who did his model/rig

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288151
VShojo also doesn't take money from their talent. The girls get all the money from subs and donations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288211
Me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288184
HOLY FUCKING BASED

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288151
I know soda is a fucking millionaire but the comment i replied to implied small streamers are too, which is blatantly untrue unless your idea of 'small streamer' is like 5000-10000 viewers which is far from the truth

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288054
Both Shien and Rikka said that they won't add new JP talents for a loooong time, so there is no way EN will happen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288184
>>>5288206
He doesn't know

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288204
A hot tub slut is losing a potential 400,000+ in ad revenue because advertisers pulled out and she has an average of maybe 15-20k viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288206
lol any twitch streamer with 10k views makes more money than fucking hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288244
Neck yourself niggerfaggot trannykike normalfag so'yboy furfaggot xcuck so'ychugging chud.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288151
A twitch streamer with an average live viewerbase of 6-10k probably makes more than most of the talents at Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288184
based
>>5288248
there are low view Twitch streamers who make lots. Streamlabs doesn't take 80% of your money like Youtube/Cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288093
Like 99% of Twitch channels are streaming to 0-5 viewers. There's not enough money in the world for each of them to make 6 figures.
https://sullygnome.com/channels/30/metadata

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288241
https://twitter.com/SquChan/

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287127
https://youtu.be/bOHhTixflkw
wtf i love sodapoppin now

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288251
>He doesn't know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288321
I meant to say 95%.

[Anonymous No.]

this hobo makes more than any holo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286275
This reddit alright. Bunch of normalfags in here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288280
A female streamer made more money on OF in 2 months than she would make in 10 years on Twitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288321
Heh that is a depressing graph. For reference for sachi was around 700 peak viewers and growing steadily when she retired, which was already the 99th percentile. Wonder why she gave up on being a millionaire?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288184
uh based

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288184
prove it

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286275
>random Twitch dude jumps into vtubing
>immediately stomps the entirety of vshoujo and hololive in rig quality
>also earns more than all of them combined since he doesn't get double taxed by the company and YouTube

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288387
I don't really play BR games but damn am I jealous of that unique experience someone like forsen can have. I would love to experience that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288396
isnt ame on record saying that before she joined Hololive she was considering quitting detective duties which kind of implies she was about to stop sachi. inb4 i get modded

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288322
thanks anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288389
Yeah. Even the OP is from a touristchama. Just let them be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288037
Have to define small, but 2-4k views are pulling an easy life. Atleast three figures.

Examples. Dansgaming, Itmejp, Strippin, dasmedhi.

Women survive with lower viewers and higher tips.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288387
But he is a holo too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdWfCSvODKo

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288250
So JP talents are more and more enclined to leave with recent events and some now passed the 3 year mark but we will not get any new JP gen for years ? Truly the darkest fucking timeline, let Kiara be in charge I wouldn't even give a fuck anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288426
also lives in a state with no income tax

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288387
>dog tamer

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288465
Six figures... not sure why I put three

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288184
ugh, I don't want to follow a /pol/tard destined to be on the wrong side of history
thanks for the heads up

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287105
the account already has 3m subs so that's not too surprising. just another trend hopper.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288054
if NijiEN is successful then you might see something

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288076
It really is, and the fact that the EN girls barely gets sponsorships especially last year was mind boggling. Streamers that averages 5-10k viewers in twitch gets more sponsors than HoloEN when they were pulling 15-40k viewers per streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288473
He hates sharkfags, he's a nousagi
https://streamable.com/u7jpeu

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288184
More like Artia left his WoW guild after she found out that soda is RAGING HOMOSEXUAL AND LOVES DICKS

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288465
Nigger that isn't anywhere near small, and three figures is one hell of a step down from "millionaires".
I watch a ~500 streamer who's an absolute fucking poorfag, always on the verge of not making rent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286275
I didnt expect this timeline watching this retard prank calling blizzard support years ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288280
Hey guys I have an idea for a new ad campaign, we only have to pay $20-30 per live viewer. Good deal right?

Also note that spending that money on Youtube would net you around 400 million views on average at $1 RPM. Now youtube views and Twitch live views are not the same animal. But DYRB there's a 4 order of magnitude difference?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288465
People forget that Youtube-kun takes 30% of superchat revenue, and then Cover takes FIFTY percent after that. Twitch doesn't have this issue with Streamlabs. And they actually make money off subs. But mostly donos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288321
Actually, there's more than enough dollars. I'm absolutely retarded and can't count.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286275
vtwitchers are gay

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288533

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288465
Then it's not really any different than being an indie on youtube aside from more sponsors maybe

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288543
these people have skewed perspectives on what a small streamer is, if it isnt 20k-40k it must be small

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288523
EN sponsorship have to go through Cover, which complicated things dramatically and takes time. But lately the girls have had a fair number of sponsorships across JP and EN

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288533
He even risked DMCA for the shark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qh6VvpqQGg

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288543
They’re probably just bad with money. I know a lot of streamers at the 500 range that has quit their full time jobs/took a break from college to focus on streaming because of the money/sponsorships they’re getting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286843
It's the Zentraya model. Dudes pretend to be mute girls and make simp bucks off of lonely betas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286771
Vei looks nice, but froot's colours make her model hideous. If it wasn't for the colours, it'd look great.

[Anonymous No.]

Soda is gay, it's his fault Among Us is popular

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288533
>hey guys stop sending me this shit I hate it
>*entire desktop is full of twitch emotes*

This man is mentally unstable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288554
She's losing 500k a year from ad revenue and you have to remember they stream live for upwards of 8 hours a day for the majority of the year. You can look it up her name is Amouranth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288633
>this is the shit sharkfags say is better than Risu or Suisei at singing

[Anonymous No.]

>created among us
>left on the peak because game sucks
>stopped streaming for 3 month when WoW classic came out
>begs to be canceled, too chad for this to happen
>ironically went to japan just to trow his wallet in random river
>has tall long black haired goth bf
>paid for vtuber avatar just to dab with it, never going to use it again because cba opening l2d
The most based vtuber on the internets

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287314
Yeah, guy played feral druid on WoW

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288426
He's also thrown some of that cash at Melody.. Under his friend's name.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCB2DD4xg0A

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288673
>Can we stop linking this
>months later
https://clips.twitch.tv/TriumphantKitschyTeaLitFam-JLIxL-m_H6ZFMVUs

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288691
He started so many of the big game metas, pretty sure phasmaphobia blew up massively off of him too.

[Anonymous No.]

why cant the vslutjos hire a good artist/rigger like soda?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288691
I’m pretty sure AdmiralBulldog made Among Us famous first in the west. Xqc even credits him for finding the game again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288746
Because to get a talented rigga you need a talented fanbase, not just thirsty balding basement dwellers.

[Anonymous No.]

>people still find a way to spin this around into hating vshojo
faggots

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288675
400K a year for a top streamer is perfectly believable. Thought you meant a month which would be ludicrous. Also take people's estimates of their income with a grain of salt. See: asking strippers what they make a night

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288478
They meant Holostars, idk what the fuck is happening in Hololive lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288790
I dont think Bulldog is big or variety enough to make anything meta

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286479
basedcringe

[Anonymous No.]

imagine buying a 2k dollar graphics card for these indie games

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288814
cry about it vnigger, not even the fags raiding from discord like them, they just want to troll /vt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288814
whoresimp

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288465
Jesus Stripping is #500 for English streamers and is in the top 0.01% of all Twitch streamers overall. That's your definition of small? Where do you think cutoff for smaller vtuber is then? Mori? If there are around 10,000 active vtubers it would literally be Rushia!

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288790
some lower viewer streamers introduced it to soda who introduced it to the larger twitch community including xqc and pokimanes house who then introduced it to youtube and zoomers

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287105
>>5288473
>there are some here unironically attempting to dunk on Twitch when the 2 biggest vtubers are also Twitch streamers

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288863
hes a millionaire who lets his friends live rent free, who cares

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288926
Gura and Ai? Or Rushia and Coco? Who are you referring to here?

[Anonymous No.]

Why do Babinikus always get the best models and designs, such a waste

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288901
holobabs have no clue what a big or small streamer is. The truth is if you have 100 regular viewers, you're already on the top percent of streamers (twitch)

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289009
they know what men want because they are men

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine /vt/ when Mr.Slime finally debuts

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289003
He means Soda and Gura(Forsen). Watch 2 minutes of that video.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288814
I mean arguably his design is also better than Aki or Mel in my opinion, this fag has what would be a top sub niji design not even close and the purple cat thing is marketing genius for goods and shit. Vshojo shares the same platform with him but still get mogged by him while they're full time vtuber and he's just a shitposter.
Too bad he's a babiniku, female Soda would literally be a Beatani in terms of not giving a fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289077
By that standard doesn't Pewdiepie take this handily?

[Anonymous No.]

Soda will never use this again and it's still better than any western vtuber. It's amazing.

[Anonymous No.]

based on what he just described he's probably using the same iphone face tracking as snuffy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289190
He'll get a ton of shirt designs from it though

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288857
Oh im pretty sure bulldog's big enough alright

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288533
This site needs an e-celeb board so I can talk about x*c and for*en in peace.

[Anonymous No.]

Sodapoppin is making a art contest? Bahroo also made a art contest and the prize was 50k

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286515
Cover wouldn't do shit to a real company. Twitch is owned by amazon. Nips are pussies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289303
He does one every month, receives like 1000 submissions and goes through them all on stream. Picks like 20 gives them 500 bucks each and sells them on his merch store for 10 dollars with a 40% discount code.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287049
Did he really? I just remember him playing Jackbox with her and raiding in project 30.

[Anonymous No.]

soda is so fucking cringe and poor

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289345
bttv isnt owned by amazon/twitch afaik its its own independent extension for twitch run by NightDev

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287105
That's cause Gura is only small potatoes when it comes to streaming. She has a lot of subs and vod viewers and that is it.

[Anonymous No.]

>people think he'll never use it again
He'll at least drag this out for a while, he even bothered with an art hashtag. When he does shit like this for laughs he always commits to it 200%. Wouldn't be surprised if he even does a collab or two.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't believe he somehow commissioned one of the cutest Vtuber designs I've seen, only for a joke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289482
holy shit that's cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288037
Cutedog streams PoE to 2k viewers, pulls way fewer during the end of the season. He lives in an expensive apartment in a nice part of downtown chicago. Millionaire? Maybe not, but easily well into six figures.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289290
I think he meant to say that his influence over Twitch is not as big as Soda's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288387
Bajs are worse than fucking juicers. Holy shit.

[Anonymous No.]

he actually became a vtuber he's even is playing the vtuber standard game

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289482
WHY DON'T YOU USE A SHOVEL

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289482
>the socks with giraffe town reference
>the druid icon pin
>a fucking shovel
unironically pure soul

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289531
Soda is unique in his influence over twitch. There are streamers that pull twice as many viewers as him, but don't have 1/5 of his power. I would say Forsen and to a lesser degree Moonmoon also have influencing power that outmatches their viewcount.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289566
>he actually became a vtuber he's even is playing the vtuber standard game
I mean his first choice was Mario Kart then DBD. He's really going all out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289482
How does this shitposter mog every VTuber just by existing
https://clips.twitch.tv/BumblingGiftedBadgerHeyGirl-LBs4BUgjC6zcDYdc

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289482
wtf squchan is one of the illustrator to DDLC Plus

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289601
hes been in the game long enough that he doesnt give a shit about his view count, if he tried hed have 50k-100k every stream if he played memeshit like among us and gta rp into the ground but hed rather play wow for 20k because hes already rich

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286275
>buys an excellent tomboy/femboy model just for a one-time joke stream
Jesus Christ, what a fucking waste.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289482
wtf that's cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289601
>forsen
you mean 4chan audience that watches him

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289393
hes also fat bald and ugly

[Anonymous No.]

FORSEN
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[Anonymous No.]

>>5289680
The best streamers are always the ones that just do whatever they want rather than what's popular. Especially when they really take control of their communities and ban people who don't fit in and mercilessly mock them to ensure more aren't attracted. I wish the HoloEN girls would do this with their chats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289508
Cutedog, ranked #667 among English streamers, and in the top 0.02% of Twitch, is a small streamer to you? Where do you think the top 0.02% of vtubers would be, roughly? Also there is a huge difference between a six figure income and being a millionaire. I have friends who lived off the Loop they sure as fuck weren't millionaires, though with inflation they probably would have low six figure incomes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289785
I don't really get why they watch Forsen. He is silent most of the time and isn't particularly good at games. He's radically different from when he used to play hearthstone. They just spam his chat with shit mostly unrelated to what is going on with his stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289835
HoloEN’s chat are one of the worst among english streamers imo. It’s super fast, 90% of it is LOL, or in Gura and Ame’s case the stupid caricatured face of themselves is spammed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289839
Ranking by percent like that doesn't really make sense when there are countless people doing it with 0 - 10 viewers that aren't really trying to make a go of it. It would make more sense to take a percentage of all streamers above 100 average viewers or something. But your point is taken. I was just saying that 2k viewers is seen as shit by the numberfags over here for youtube viewers, but on twitch it certainly isn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289482
>Nyanners if not designed by a deviantart artist
she must be seething

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289874
4chan likes cancer and aids mayhem combined with og memes
his chat allows that plus they can get together with him in game and cause mayhem live

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289874
Forsen is still very popular, but he has declined significantly from his peak. Streamers have a lot of inertia, but track the rankings year on year and a certain percentage are replaced each year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286275
Twitch really cancer sjw central its funny how half his chat is trying to call him out

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289550
20:38

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289965
the D: posting is ironic anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>5290003
Just give up, he will never fit in...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289953
>Nyanners if not designed by a deviantart artist
Holy shit that's so accurate. This is coming from someone that watches her regularly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289874
It’s his community imo. His community and AdmiralBulldog with his megacucks are one of the most loyal and funniest supporters i’ve seen. Some even made fan games for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289940
That's just Holofags having no perspective. 2K on Youtube isn't as good as Twitch but that's still a ton of people and very good money for most people. The real lesson is while you can make a excellent money with even 1K viewers most people never make it to that point, even with talent. You have to somehow break free of the huge pack of 2views. Which is why Hololive is so tempting even though they take half your earnings. It's a slam dunk no doubt road to financial security. I think all the HoloEN girls have talked about this to some extent except for Ina and even she was making enough extra money her Dad was shocked.

[Anonymous No.]

>a literal shitpost
>better than at least 80% of existing vtubers
How does he do it?

[Anonymous No.]

based thread
it's nice to see the entirety of /vt/ kneel for once

[Anonymous No.]

>>5290080
It is absolutely insane that Youtube takes 30% of dono revenue, and Cover takes 50% on top of that. Then they pay taxes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5290046
>swedish
>retarded
>racist
>god gamer
>og memes
who am I talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289965
4chan is furry hate incarnated and "furry" + this emote is just a common twitch meme idk what u're on about, even if Twitch is sjw central this has nothing to do with his chat, his chat is a weeb central for all i know, reddit weebs even

[Anonymous No.]

>>5290148
Me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5290148
pewdiepie

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289965
Normalfags are worse than SJW when it comes to this stuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>5290122
Throwing enough money at a decent artist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289874
At least you have the balls to say it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289965
>half his chat is trying to call him out
What? Is this bait or do you just not understand what's going on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5290148
It's the best channel because it literally influences every other channel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289874
That's what makes it fun. It's the only channel where you can shitpost without a care in the world. He also doesn't get involved in drama and does his own thing. It's the last channel that resembles the old Twitch.
It's hard to get it if you only watch him occasionally or you only watch clips of him but maybe watching one of his streams from the start can help. Participating in a chat war is one of the funniest things ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286275
this dude is just a pro shitposter but it's hilarious that the model is actually cute and well done
he kind of embarrassed most of the western vtuber community which is rather based
wonder if they'll pee and poo their pants like they did when those e-thots got vtuber models

[Anonymous No.]

>>5286479
His friend had the only surviving card graded and it came back as a psa 9. That means that there is a good chance that he burnt and destroyed a couple of psa 10s

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289965
call him out on what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289965
>el no sabe

[Anonymous No.]

>meanwhile on just chatting

[Anonymous No.]

>shows shovel during reveal
>says he's never going to use it again
>2h later shovel is out again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaBPT2j0_l8

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289965
Forsen chat would make Susan and Youtube cry

[Anonymous No.]

>>5290348
>Just end if there's no fart

[Anonymous No.]

Soda x Gura collab when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5290148
But the true god gamer is a fat, bald, shit boomer.
pls no mention tekken

[Anonymous No.]

>>5290080
the "twitch/youtube" thing is all dependent
like generally yes twitch is better because the 10 year old pekora fans have free twitch prime subs to give to their favorite streamer but it also varies from game to game
like mason gets 8k streaming dota and he says most twitch streamers usually have subs about equal to their viewer count but since dota is a game played by peruvians and SEAmonkeys he doesnt get anywhere near that

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289956
Imagine being able to live in absolute comfort knowing that you have a core group of autists that will throw money at your no matter what the fuck you do on stream. Vtubers can only dream of this, they are so beholden to their fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5290368
Stop making me feel old

[Anonymous No.]

https://clips.twitch.tv/LightEnthusiasticSageBigBrother
imagine just casually making 10k that you didn't even want in the first place

[Anonymous No.]

>>5290003
>>5290167
>>5290247
should have been more specific there are comments implying liking this is p*do shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>5290046
>Some even made fan games for them.
There is a twitch streamer that holds a yearly gamejam for fan made games with a $14k prize pool. It's usually a pretty good time and the next one is coming up "soon". The submissions are all done, now he just needs to play them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5290578
his vrchat avatar is a small girl too and he does degen shit on there

[Anonymous No.]

Even reddit is getting in on the cute fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5290170
>>5290173
>>5290437
only one true God Gamer, rest are copycats

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289685
This guy literally burned a $20,000 pokemon card for fun

[Anonymous No.]

>>5290730
Fuck his money, imagine a decent-to-good vtuber with that avatar

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287478
Yes you would know this if you weren't a newfag, there is always a raid happening and not just here, this whole fucking website is spitroasted by multiple parties at all times and so has been for years since SRS feminist set their eyes on it. Shit is fucked annd this random fag and his bootlickers are the least of your problems.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5290429
Soda x Gura x Nyanners x Jerma

[Anonymous No.]

>>5290854
>since SRS feminist
Damn, that feels like a lifetime ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5290861
>first Gura collab announced
>with Soda
Holy shit, the board would be literally unusable for at least a week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5290937
I don't want my oshi to collab with leeches though. My oshi has put in too much time, blood, sweat, and tears to associate with some johnny come lately viral pretender.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5290136
It's not that insane if twitch takes 50%.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5290690
Kinda sad that the true God Gamer has become a relative "who?" in comparison to the usurpers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5291157
Top Twitch streamers can negotiate a better cut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5291157
It depends on how big you are. Larger streamers negotiate for better deals. I know many keep 70% and some keep 100% contingent on running a set number of ads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289190
I can see soda using a lot on his second channel that he plays WoW on with no face cam.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5291157
twitch doesn't touch donations. their subscriptions are 50% for small streamers but the top streamers get a 70-80% cut

[Anonymous No.]

>>5291157
sub revenue is fuck all, their money is from donos/TTS

[Anonymous No.]

>>5291179
he always was, because he mains a dead fucking game
imagine forsen viewerbase if he still played hearthstone or if moonmoon player overwatch

[Anonymous No.]

>>5291225
He doesn't have mic on either so probably not

[Anonymous No.]

>>5290578
In bigger streams there is a rivalry between weebs and nammers (non weebs) and calling weebs that is the new trend.

[Anonymous No.]

Twitchchads, you guys watching quin do wall of flesh hardcore after stalling for like 20+ hours?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5291317
>forsen viewerbase if he still played hearthstone
Possibly not that terrible.
>moonmoon player overwatch
In the absolute dumpster. Granted moonmoon gets away with playing really obscure and unpopular shit and maintaining high numbers. You just can't main a game like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5289965
Sodapoppin can never be canceled. He has intentionally went after the Kpop stans multiple times because he wanted to be canceled for shits and giggles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5291245
Depends who you are. Twitch prime is the reason some people are in the 20-60k subs. Do the simple math of top streamers getting $3.5-4 each and that is a tough number to beat unless you pull a gambling sponsor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5291463
He still says retard doesn't he? Plus there are all those old "racist" videos of stuff with him and his black roommate that have surfaced. Soda is truly untouchable.

[Anonymous No.]

https://clips.twitch.tv/ProtectiveUglyStork4Head-CCZjCd4fUJDgVLnA
pretty good "voice acting"

[Anonymous No.]

>>5291206
>>5291221
Yeah, and 99.9% of streamers aren't those "top streamers" and even among them, many don't bother because they simply don't care about the extra money at that point. If you have less than consistent 10k live viewers twitch won't even talk to you about it.

>>5291241
Twitch takes 50% on bits, which is the equivalent to super chats.

>>5291245
Sub revenue (from prime subs) is literally the reason people stream on twitch instead of YouTube.

[Anonymous No.]

Keep in mind: this thread is a good taste of what an /e-celeb/ board would be like

[Anonymous No.]

>>5290578
twitch chats are full of fake wars, whenever anime shit is on screen half the chat will take the based or cringe side and fight with emotes
welcome to twitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>5291245
I heard Kripp, one of the absolute OGs of twitch, talking about this the other day. He was saying donation money has really dried up over the past two years and now ads and sponsorships are where the real money is coming from. He even mentioned that ads drying up has hurt streamers like Forsen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5291529
Yep, his friends tried to stage and intervention about his use of retard but Soda told them that it is a hill that he will die on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5291544
>Twitch takes 50% on bits, which is the equivalent to super chats.
What about Streamelements/Streamlabs donations? I honestly don't know the the numbers, but I'd imagine that most would choose to donate over one of the third parties instead of bits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5291657
That's kinda irrelevant to the discussion because you can use those on YouTube too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5291657
People would rather do streamlabs than bits but some streams have bit incentives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5291690
Fair point

[Anonymous No.]

I legit won't mind if Gura gets a collab with this faggot. Though half the tourists on the board and the purityfags will probably do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5291544
>Twitch takes 50% on bits, which is the equivalent to super chats.
But you pay the Twitch cut on bits upfront so the amount you give to the streamer actually goes to the streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5291716
His house is a revolving door of e-thots but he never leaves his room, i don't think purityfags have to worry about him cucking them

[Anonymous No.]

it'd be funny if he stuck with it like bahroo

[Anonymous No.]

>>5291544
>Twitch takes 50% on bits, which is the equivalent to super chats.
It's not quite like that. Twitch takes their cut upfront when the bits are purchased, not when they are donated. So it depends on how many bits you buy at a time. It ranges from a 23% cut to 29%.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287482
Top JPs definitely make more in donations then anyone on Twitch, but Twitch streamers have them beat in ad revenue, paid subscriptions/memberships, and sponsorships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5291657
You are correct. When talking about donations they refer to the donations over a third party instead of bits.

[Anonymous No.]

If consoomers were smart they'd keep all these little fuck streamers on a short leash earning 60k a year or something so they'll be practically enslaved to stream forever instead of get rich quick and dip.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5288295
This. Miko is genius for doing Twitch just for watchalongs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5287688
>only greynames
Oh boy how can I tell this was cherrypicked from 8 months ago after debut?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5291884
Well nijisanji did like 20 sponsored streams today so it's probably not exclusive to twitch

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>>5288092
A lot of Twitch culture is or at least was essentially /v/-lite. It used to be especially apparent in game conference streams like e3.

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>>5292292
>A lot of Twitch culture is or at least was essentially /v/-lite
You can thank Forsen for that.

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>>5286275
The top male twitch streamers are basically the kings of the internet

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>>5292253
I have the feeling the JP companies that make up the majority of JP vtuber sponsors aren't paying nearly as much as these Western companies with ridiculously inflated marketing budgets.

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>>5292977
I think it's actually the top youtubers at this point.

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>>5293049
I think it was mostly chinese companies and google play today, but who knows

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>>5288445
>spoiler
Yes. And it's not a secret, she said on stream multiple times during SC readings.
She was going to quit and become and EMT since streaming wasn't working out

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>>5293396
Yeah, no way could she hack it with a real job as an EMT. She would be on OnlyFans now if it weren't for Hololive.

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>>5288054
The problem is most male VTubers are cringe as fuck.
Even in the west, the won't ever be nearly as popular as hololive

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>>5293632
I don't agree. If they follow the formula of those guys from Dream SMP they could explode in popularity. They could leave the girls in the dust in terms of numbers and popularity with the mainstream public.

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>>5289924
Literally the same if not worse in every popular Twitch chat when a game is being played.
If any of the HoloEN girls do SC readings or zatsudan streams then it's different.

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>>5289835
>Especially when they really take control of their communities and ban people who don't fit in and mercilessly mock them to ensure more aren't attracted
When do they ever get "mercilessly mocked"?

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>>5288054
NO MALES

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>>5294050
DreamSMP is not the norm and they all consist of leeches

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>>5294218
Soda and Moonmoon are good examples. They won't just ban someone, they'll take the next 5 minutes to berate that chatter and everyone like them. They'll say shit like "I don't want your views, I don't want your subs, I won't want your money".

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>>5290485
It's funny because VShojo is pretty close to this, as are the adjacent streamers like snuffy. they can literally do whatever and just have thousands of people watching because they've integrated (and come from) a twitch background. They know exactly what viewers like because they were viewers.

Vei follows Summit and Greekgodx, h3, and XQC.

Zentreya a bunch of VRChat streamers from back in his old vrc days, including the big normie streamers who put the game on the map

iron mouse with RajjPatel/austin, kitboga, and the account Takahata uses (formerly a Dnd account) back in 2018

all the top envtubers follow and take notes from normie content, it's part of why they're on top, they make their content easily accessible. people may not like it, but it's how you succeed with a wider EN market outside of just getting signed

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>>5291067
Yeah it'd suck for sodapoppin to get stuck collabing with Gura. you're totally right.

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>>5294835
Artia was connected with Soda's group and Ame used to have connections to Moon and some others.

It sort of hits this difference between what is a vtuber and what is a streamer that uses an anime avatar. The twitch crowd is much closer to the second, but that might insulate them from the vtuber bubble bursting.

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>>5294947
That was the joke, yes.

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>>5291544
Holofags lying or just being retarded again. Twitch takes 50% of subs, and we're not talking about just any streamer, we're talking about he top streamers who get a bigger cut, which HoloEN would be considered just from the traffic they'd draw to the site. And believe me, they all do. The only reason Ludwig didn't is because he blew up while still under an old contract.

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>>5294951
this. im a smaller time en no noname indie and i still make more than another "normal" streamer my size would be making. most dudes don't even see a payout for months, I've literally never missed one in the year ive been doing it aside from my first month when i had just friends watching. Streamers with avatar are forever, but eventually the EN bubble HAS to burst, and the streamers are gonna be the ones winning

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>>5286275
>techwear vtuber nº43240325405
>twitch
yeah nah

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>>5286344
What really baffles me is how this dude managed to commission a model that slaps in the face almost everything from the top dogs in the industry. I guess only niji 3.0 can compete but even then it's shameful.
Yeah, he's probably rich with a lot of disposable income to the point of blowing 50k+ (I'm just assuming values here) on a meme, I get that companies can't do the same (without taking the risks), but cmon guys. Just a while ago Gura got that dog shit outfit, it baffles me that people who are supposedly "pros" can't do a better job than an outsider.

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>>5296202
There is a level of nepotism likely at play too. Companies tend to work with the same people over and over, regardless of the quality of their work. I don't know why they don't shop around or even do bids or something for their designs/models/rigging.