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How do we feel about medium corpos?

>> No.52772897

>>52772822
Idol is cool even if Rin is an annoying numbernigger and all her co-workers hate her
Phase sucks because they front run someone who encourages people to be kiwiniggers and post 4chan links and screenshots on twitter
Tenma Panko and Jelly are cool though

>> No.52772907

>>52772822
>Pickme Plappa and Bin Penisrose
go back

>> No.52772915

>>52772822
Are these the only two corpos that are bigger than small corpos but not big enough to be big corpos?

>> No.52772977

>>52772822
I don't give a fuck

>> No.52773024

>>52772897
>Phase sucks because they front run someone who encourages people to post 4chan links and screenshots on twitter
>Panko is cool
Pick one

>> No.52773030

>>52772915
Technically Vshojo is a big corpo but their is a huuuuuuuuuuge wide disparity between them and Holo/Niji.

>> No.52773087

>>52773024
I dont even dislike Pippa, but the fact they both allow and encourage her to foster dox niggers and antis of other girls is fucking retarded

>> No.52773172

>>52772822
nijisanji is a medium corpo those are still small/indie tier

>> No.52773193

I remember a lot of medium-sized video game companies during the dot com boom that all crashed and died. Only the big triple A, big mobile, and indie 1-man studios survive now.

Maybe the medium corpos will all perish during the vtuber bust too.

>> No.52773270

>>52772822
Idol being this big feels like a fever dream. I was there for the trainwreck hebrew debut.

>> No.52773282
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>>52773172
>nijisanji is a medium
>10 times bigger than Hololive
Are you even trying?

>> No.52773334

>>52773282
NijiJP and NijiEN aren't the same thing bro

>> No.52773380

>>52773282
>he didn’t mention hololive
rent-free

>> No.52773392

>>52773282
>Selen pic
speaking of 10 times bigger…

>> No.52773461

>>52772822
Why are these two such huge numberfags?

>> No.52773464

>>52772822
i think these corpos are good

>> No.52773472

>>52773270
tbf Lia's first debuts were pretty bad too. She had to debut 3 times in 1 week.

>> No.52773505

>>52773193
Vtubing in the west already busted as hard as it ever will, you barely hear about it outside of bubbles like this one out in the wild. A large amount of corpos died between now and say, 2 years ago. These two will probably remain stable. Some more other corpos could blow up in the future though. The thing about vtubing is that small corpos still have a lot of overhead.

>> No.52773575

>>52773282
>nijinigger losing in a small corpo thread
you love to see it

>> No.52773606

>>52772822
If I may quote Pope Benedict XVI for a moment here.
>Demz iz sum hoez mayne!
That is how I feel about them.

>> No.52773727

>>52773505
>stable
Plap connect will get canceled and driven off the internet the moment they get their second pippa, (if they ever do). Nobody bothers them because they are still small. Then idol will be the only medium corpo left.

>> No.52773816

>>52773282
well you guys are losing in average subs to vspo

>> No.52773832

>>52773030
They're pretty big considering they only have 9 talents

>> No.52774139

>>52773832
Every Vshojo talent is worth 2 Rins or 3 Pippas. That's what it means to be big. Big money.

>> No.52774205

>>52772822
medium corpos are 774, vspo, react, noripro, maha5, wactor, neoporte and so on. idol, kawaii, phase and so on are still small.

>> No.52774488

>>52774205
>wactor
we are counting current size of active members
not people who quit without handing in a resignation
or most graduated members

>> No.52775121

>>52772915
I wouldn't even label idol or Phase as "medium." I'd define large as >10% of the market, which is Anycolor and Cover Corp. I would define medium as between 1% and 10%, which would include VShojo among others, and small as being <1%, which definitely includes Phase and idol.

>> No.52775234

>>52775121
If Idol and Phase so small, why do I keep seeing posts about them in the catty?

>> No.52775329

>>52775234
They don’t want to buy ads.

>> No.52775400

>>52772822
Dizzy is really growing on me

>> No.52775776
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>>52775121
>muh percentage of the market
LMAO nerd. A big corpo has 5view streamers.
Medium corpos have at least 1 consistent 4view streamer.
Small corpos are 3views and Microcorps (like your dick) are 2views.

That's why Production Kawaii is a Medium Corp.

>> No.52776228

>>52773270
It’s just shorts subs on one chuuba. Rin has 500k subs but can’t hit 40k views on an edited YouTube video.

>> No.52776407

>>52775776
But Nene only got 4view numbers a couple of times and only for her ASMR. How is that "consistent"?

>> No.52776665

>>52773087
It's cute seeing someone who's never watched a chuuba try to form an opinion about them.

>> No.52776825

>>52776407
Nene does streams that aren't ASMR?
Could've fooled me.

>> No.52777781

>>52776825
you really are missing out if you're not there for the zatsu

>> No.52778393

>>52776665
ok fag she literally does 4chan react content and shills doxfags
stay coping i guess

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>>52778393
You have a source to backup your claim?
That's right you don't. So fuck off.

>> No.52778771

>>52774139
Even Hime?

>> No.52778829

>>52778661
>search pippa 4chan
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3nj4datRV9k
ok kiwinigger cope harded i guess
i see your ilk post links to 4chan threads all the times on twitter and you dont even keep it contained to PC members

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>>52778829
>4chan react content
She's reading. That's different.
>shills doxfags
Can't prove something that doesn't exist.
Too bad seething femanon, I guess Pippa wins again.

>> No.52779309

>>52772822
Only good one is Phase. Panko and Shiina bring me back to the good old times.

>> No.52779784

>>52772822
I filter them out, next thread

>> No.52780653

Rin is a disgusting puzzle-diddling whore

>> No.52781113

>>52772897
>Rin is an annoying numbernigger and all her co-workers hate her
qrd?

>> No.52781235

>>52772822
I like Phase Connect and I'm watching their streams right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if5clcMqbOs

>> No.52781536

>>52781235
"If you lost to a firework it's natural selection."
-Jelly

>> No.52783167

>>52772822
Phase and idol are carried by one (or two) hit wonders. In phase’s case it’s Pippa and in idol it’s yuko/rin. The rest of the company are usually 2views. They’re small.

>> No.52784827

>>52781235
>If you sleep naked bugs will crawl into your vagina which means youre fucking them
What the fuck is phase connect

>> No.52785163

>>52783167
retard

>> No.52787098

>>52775776
By your reasoning a corporation with 100 streamers doing 500ccv is smaller than a corporation with a single streamer doing 100ccv. How does that make sense?

Also, Nene isn't anything like a consistent 4 view. In fact her ccv is 266.

>> No.52787189

>>52775776
>>52787098
> a single streamer doing 100ccv
*a single streamer doing 1000ccv

>> No.52788071

>>52781113
She spammed shorts about how to become vtuber and behind the curtain shit like that, I think a few mentioned gura as well

>> No.52788362

>>52772822
Buy ads

>> No.52788570

>>52788071
short most likly help
yet, is very probable a lot of boting was also at play.
her rise was way faster than any conversation about them
like you can find 1 treath every now and then but that it

>> No.52789750

>>52781113
NTA but
Shes a massive numberfags and says so out loud, she pretty much openly admits she only cares about clout and numbers, she has zero actual fanbase or community and all her fans are just annoying children or numberfags, her fans are so annoying that they are basically getting mass banned in all the other girls channels, all she does is clickbait streams and shorts, she doesnt interact with anyone in her company and constantly is trying to flirt with the Homostars and shes such a prude that in their official discord they have rules just in place to keep Rin happy that are so annoying that every other fanbase has been bitching and demanding changes constantly because not a single talent is like Rin at all and shes the only one who gives a fuck about that sort of shit.

Its incredibly clear that the gap between her and the other girls is only going to grow the more Rin keeps being an annoying cunt.

>> No.52791080

>>52788570
>>52789750
I tired to watch one of her streams after enjoying the shorts and the chat was too fast and there was basically no interactivity

>> No.52792098

>>52772822
I believe competition in any industry is necessary, despite not watching them I'm happy big corpos aren't the only ones getting attention, if these new contenders keep growing I'll push the medium forward quality wise. I might check them in the future who knows

>> No.52792679

>>52776228
She gets 1.7k live viewers in a regular chatting stream on a regular day without any buffs. How is that small, unless you are a holofag or a vshojo cuck?

>> No.52793013

>>52791080
All of the girls have a community except Rin and pretty much all of them interact outside of hers.
The only thing people know about Rincels is that they are annoying cunts

>> No.52793753

>>52772822
I like Phase Connect, it's always nice hearing trailer trash having conversations while I'm doing work.
They make work less stressful.

>> No.52794023

>>52772822
I refuse to watch them just because their shills are so fucking annoying

>> No.52794353

>>52772822

Phase has an unusually deep bench but they're living and dying by Pippa. She's 5-10 times larger than most talents in the company, so she's the main draw to Phase; that said, she's also an anchor. She's not actually that good a streamer, first and foremost. Her reputation as "The 4chan Vtuber" drives away normies but she's honestly not the talent 4chan wants either. She's a self-described progressive, she's just too much of an edgelord for normies (much less SJWs), and her reputation here is fading fast. It's unfortunate that the rest of Phase is stuck in her shadow because they have a fairly strong roster. Tenma is maybe the only "S-Tier" talent they have but they've got an abnormally large percentage of A-Tier and B-Tier talent and I don't think I've seen any D- or F-Tier talents with them at all. That kind of brand consistency is maybe unrivaled in all of vtubing right now.

Idol Corp I don't know if I get the hype yet. Like Pippa at Phase, Idol is in the shadow of their biggest talent. Rin Penrose is kind of a bad streamer; before she blew up she was okay, but she's let the numbers go to her head and now she does nothing but low-effort clip-bait content. In the past MONTH of streaming, she can't be assed to stream for more than like an hour at a time, and has done no game streams except shovelware and gimmick games, aside from ONE Spore stream, ONE Katamari stream, and a fucking collab with Flayon Homostar on Splatoon. Penrose aside, the roster feels shallow to me. Origin is mostly garbage (and 3/5 already graduated barely after a year), E-Sekai is mostly mid-tier. The new gen has some promise but we'll have to see.

>> No.52794592

>>52772822
>trash
>trash
they're the same fucking thing

>> No.52794756

clearly there's a market for a counterprogramming non-holo talent that's also not a twitch whore. nijien is supposed to fill this niche but that's not so clear anymore ever since luxiem. both idol and phase are in a good spot to claim that niche for themselves right now but whether either one actually manages to do so remains to be seen

>> No.52794916

>>52772822
>phaseshill
>jewshill
the more you shill, the more i hate them

>> No.52797206

>>52773030
Not any more, these days vshojo sits squarely between hololive and nijisanji where their lows don't go quite as low as nijisanji but their highs don't go quite as high as hololive

>> No.52797222

They're mid

>> No.52797775

>>52794353
>The new gen has some promise but we'll have to see.
there numbers aren't great but i'm over here reliving the magic.

>> No.52798019

>>52792679
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnOEvfpwV5Y

>> No.52798254

>>52772822
Phase is gay and the Plappajanny's a colossal fag
Don't know much about Idol

>> No.52798682
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I like Lia

>> No.52798746

>>52789750
I actually enjoyed the contrast Rin brought in their group collabs when they still did those, playing off the chaos cunnies etc. Her clickbait gimmick streams were sometimes fun, but she really oversaturates it and doesn't have a "standard" stream.
I'm not a discordfag so don't care about that side of things.

>> No.52798829

>>52789750
>Shes a massive numberfags and says so out loud, she pretty much openly admits she only cares about clout and numbers
Part of British humour is to say terrible things in as dry and deadpan fashion as possible, Rin does this a lot and you can see where she got it from when she streams with her mother
As for the other points, her fanbase is pretty annoying but I've never seen them banned from the other girls chats, similarly whenever I've heard the other girls mention her it's always been positive. If you're able to provide examples though I'd appreciate it

>> No.52798884

>>52789750
She brings the numbers. That’s all that matters . Just cause she hurt your feels or something is irrelevant

>> No.52799255

>>52788570
probably no bots involved, shorts just work like that though they only translate to subs really rin as a vtuber could atleast get 1k ccv if she does something semi big, i have seen shorts creators that get a million views in every short hundreds of thousand of like and nearly a million subs get sub 200 viewers when they stream short clout dosent really mean much as it only gives you more recognition.

>> No.52799520

>>52772822
idol seems okay but all ive seen from them is just the members leeching off hololive.
like spamming shorts with gura or other holos name in them for some fucking reason
phase is just shit. pippa is the only reason people care for it and shes literally a redditors rendition of 4chan, not to mention shes an outright liar.

>> No.52799762

>>52799255
It has worked for her viewer numbers too - she had a 3.5k solo stream this week doing a sporcle quiz.
The conversion rate is very low vs the subs increase, but her shorts have done so well even that has been enough for a big viewer boost.

>> No.52799789

>>52799520
Nigga, not going to defend Idol, but Plappa literally got big only because of holocure, shorts and leeching hololive. Only after that she got enough viewers to snowball and get known as le incel 4chan rabbit with husbando for normies to laugh at

>> No.52799866

>>52799520
>Does one (1) short that mentions gura and how she doesn't like chat spamming guras name when she talks about IKEA shark
>OMG sisters she's totally leaching hololive by shitting out a million gura shorts

>> No.52800088

>>52799866
In all likelihood it was the early catalyst that got her stuff picked up by the algorithm originally (although deciphering how that thing works is anybody's guess), but it never would have worked had she not put in a lot of work on all the non-Gura shit that followed. Her shorts are well done.
She's far from the first or last vtuber to mention Gura in a short. The snowball is her own doing.
But when you're on /vt/ shitting on someone that doesn't matter.

>> No.52800470

>>52781113
>It's me Rin the british guy haha
>Did you know my 7 inch cock wasn't always that big?
>If you're gonna make fanart of me please make a backgroundless versions so I can just copy paste to my thumbnails
>Did I mentioned I'm british? Lmao blahaj
I like her though.

>> No.52800667

>>52800470
Now that I think about it, it's a little weird how much she talks about dick sizes. Like when she collabed with flaygon all she could talk about was how much bigger her dick was and how she was gonna stomp on his balls and turn him into a real girl

>> No.52800837

>>52778829
That link shows nothing at all of what you said, you really just clicked the first link that showed up, huh?

>> No.52801219

>>52772822
buy the fucking ad, bvtm

>> No.52801229

>>52772822
Both of those companies are literally just that one person with the others being 3views at the very best
These are pseudo indies

>> No.52802587

>>52772822
>medium corpos

>> No.52803223

>>52772822
Nothing

>> No.52804716

>>52794916
Seethe more, fagget

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