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Why did It flop?

>> No.52674642

>IMG_

>> No.52674672

>>52674590
burger weebs are too poor unlike their jalapeño freinds over the western pond

>> No.52674684

Do you have evidence it flopped?

>> No.52674716

Look, I'm not even into hololive on an individual level, I'm not into their talents and I just watch their concerts and shows because it's a good time waster.
The only valid complaint was the horrid camera work.

>> No.52674763

>>52674590
Seethe, nijisister

>> No.52674978
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>>52674590
Bvtm it ogre

>> No.52675035

>>52674590
By what measure did it "flop"?

>> No.52675238
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>>52674590
Sisters...I'm sure nijien will get a concert in 2030...

>> No.52675290

poor connection

>> No.52675777

>>52674590
It was better than JP concerts

>> No.52676865
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>>52674590
No, it didn't flop, nijisis, unlike a certain other concert.

>> No.52677179

>>52674590
>Sold out in 2 minutes
>More people wanted to go
>Hype crowd
>Flop
What did OP mean by that?
>

>> No.52677967

>>52677179
OP is the brownest nijikek

>> No.52678102

>>52674716
>The only valid complaint was the horrid camera work.

Not at all, the quality of the performances, the lack of variety and no memorable or unique moments are also issues that should be addressed in future concerts, camera work was awful but it was not the only issue of it.

>> No.52678542

>>52678102
Post concert ticket.

>> No.52679135

>>52674590
Not hyped enough.

>> No.52679268
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52679268

ITT jealous nijis coping

>> No.52680738

>>52674978
KEK

>> No.52681364

The concert was pretty shit but it still mogged the shit out of Nijicopes tiny little 20 minute fiesta. At least they had chairs this time lmao

>> No.52681411

>>52674590
roru rumao

>> No.52681449

People were expecting the good shit like holofes. Just got early hatsune miku on a screen like any random anime con had.

>> No.52681561

I'm just glad gura can get back to streaming now that her project is finished

>> No.52681611

>>52678542
nta but I stopped buying tickets after bloom, because I don't like the way they do concerts. Some of them have better performances at other concerts such as TubeOut.

>> No.52684738

>>52674590
>trusting EN

>> No.52684797

>>52674590
All the production side got outsourced for cheap

>> No.52684874

>>52674590
We get it you're still seething that the NijiEN Concert was cancelled stop trying to bring down HoloEN

>> No.52684882

Ollie and hachama have yet to be defeated

>> No.52684914

the camera sucked, they wasted the JP and ID on a group sound and it was short but other than that it was pretty good

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>>52674590
>>52679135
Crowd dead silent:
>Mori: Everyone is SO hyped today.
Crowd is dead silent:
>Kiara: Calm Down Calm Down
>Mori: Chill chill chill, IT'S OVER
yeah, I'd say. lmao. my fucking sides.

>> No.52688121

>>52688051
Yeah that was a little awkward. They should have done the talking MC parts live.

>> No.52688134

whoever mocapped for Bae did a good job.
But I felt bad when she tried to hype the audience, "Now let me hear you scream!"
And it was murmers.

>> No.52688244

>>52688121
Is the problem actually the fans, or is JP idolism something that cannot be exported wholesale to the west? Maybe it needs to be adapted for western audiences?

>> No.52688875

>>52688134
>mumbles
>Moom: I love your screams!

>> No.52689038

>>52688875
I tried to suspend my disbelief, but it was hard when these moments kept popping up.
The songs were good, and the production behind them was good, but anytime the camera panned out over the audience, or worse, focused on the audience, it took me out of it.

>> No.52689222

>>52681561
lol
If you're grey, enjoy your one stream every 3 weeks chumbro

>> No.52690314

>>52677179
Nijikeks grasping at any sliver of relevancy again.

>> No.52690359

Why do people attack Nijisanji fans for these threads when its confirmed its bvtm spamming them with his goons

>> No.52690466

>>52690359
nijisisters should make it their top priority to not be associated with them then.

>> No.52690492

>>52690359
you act like this concert is immune to criticism. That hololive fans cannot be disappointed with it.

>> No.52690501

>>52674716
I think the camera and the generic presentations were bad. Group songs made everything feel short and lazy

>> No.52691003

>>52688051
>>52688121
I was fine until the SNOT MC, I was physically cringing, managed to laugh it off by the end but still

>> No.52691030

>>52688051
The section I was in was definitely going ballistic. I have no idea if there were sound issues for people watching it online but people around me were popping off so hard that it was infectious. I was exhausted afterwards and my throat is dying.

>> No.52691078

>>52674590
No torrent? How long until the concert get rips

>> No.52691094
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>overused songs
>guests didn't even trouble to sing in english
>guests that weren't actually guests at all
>Kirameki Rider two fucking times
>"important annoucement" starts with yet another Mori song like she don't throw several in a year
>the only teaser that might hint EN3 can be literally everything, even another tempus
One song or another were okay like Ina singing Ghost, but fuck this shit. I guess it's my fault for having FES level expectations

>> No.52691147

>>52691094(me)
>literally anything*
Fixed.

>> No.52691177

>>52691030
Well, I wasn't there in person, so if that's the case, they may have mixed the audio in a way that muted the crowd. Which makes sense when the talents are on stage singing (you want to hear them over the crowd), but during the MC sections, when the point is to hear the crowd riled up?
It's dead silent in the VOD.

>> No.52691551

>>52691094
holostars isnt hololive

>> No.52691604
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>>52691177
VOD is up? How long until it get rip?

>> No.52691710

>>52691177
No that was loud af, especially during Psycho. I am genuinely surprised when I hear people describe Calli telling us to chill and we werent making any sound, again this was the section I was in though.
I will add that I was also at the Lazulight performance and crowd energy was also high but the wota chants were far more unified.
At the fan meetup before the Hololive thing I clearly remember learning wota chants for Hinotori but Kiara sang Sparks lol. I think I was one of the few who knew double clapping for SSS was a thing.

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>>52691604
I'm pretty sure he's referring to the Free part of the concert, though "dead silent" is a bit of an exaggeration. You can clearly hear rumblings from the crowd during the MC Segments in spite of the audio repression, while most of the crowd audio seems sourced from around the first floor at least.
https://www.youtube.com/live/-2H-WjJBWsA?feature=share&t=4584

>> No.52692614

nijibro here, how the fuck did it fail? Didn’t it sell out within a day? At least make decent bait to distract from our bullshit, we don’t need to shit on holofans actually having fun.

>> No.52692661

>>52692614
based nijibro

>> No.52692991

>>52688244
>is JP idolism something that cannot be exported wholesale to the west?
i feel like "cannot" is a big word, it just takes time and the japs didn't put as much effort into exporting their shit as the koreans did with kpoop.
more people are starting to get into it through vtubers but it's still new. it's better than it used to be though, and seems like it's going better for vtubers than it did for irl idols as i've attended j-idol concerts in the west with much worse audiences.

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>>52674590

>> No.52694435

>>52675777
No it fucking wasn't. It was decent, maybe somewhere around Holofes 1 level. Recent JP concerts are miles better.

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>>52674590

>> No.52694672

>>52694330
Uhhh actually I see a couple of empty seats
Guaranteed flop

>> No.52694924

>>52694330
The covid excuse still baffles me to this very day. With a lot of people vacc'd up it isnt that bad anymore.

>> No.52695582

>>52688244
>Is the problem actually the fans, or is JP idolism something that cannot be exported wholesale to the west?
Japanese idols are supported by a culture that has developed over decades. Most ironic weebs don't care for idols and they will get a mixed response in the western market. That only becomes more of an issue when at least half of the holoEN talents don't want to be idols.

>> No.52695882

Set in LA, Im really surprised no-one went ape shit and started culling the new church Uzi's at the ready

Would've been something to see or hear about

>> No.52695950 [DELETED] 

>>52674590
None of the EN girls have any heart or passion, they are all grifting whores who laugh at their viewers with their bf behind closed doors

>> No.52696049

>>52695950
This.

Expect the conveyor belt meat zealots to pull out the cheat sheet or babble more recycled bullshit then Biden at a public address

>> No.52696098

Torrent on NYAA yet?

>> No.52700662

>>52679268
Was it a good show?

>> No.52701607

>>52688051
That was just on the production side of things. They completely muted the audience unless they specifically wanted the stream to hear it. The crowd went nuts during basically every MC section. I took a video of the SNOT MC section so maybe I'll see if I can figure it how to upload it

>> No.52701827

>>52675035
It sold out in minutes. Cover going bankrupt next week.

>> No.52701966

>>52674590
>sold out the arena
>flop
Connect the World is literally the opposite of a flop

>> No.52702024

>>52691094
I love Ina but she was trembling during the entire performance

>> No.52702085

>>52674590
Burgers take up 2 seats worth of space but pay 1 seat price

>> No.52702128

>>52691094
>guests didn’t even trouble to
Learn English monkey

>> No.52702137

Niji concert was full too btw

>> No.52702213

>>52691094
>Kirameki Rider two fucking times
Am I retarded or didn't they only do this once? When did they sing it aside from the encore

>> No.52702701

>>52702213
Its bait you dumbass

>> No.52702759

>>52688121
it was probably actually live but latency issues due to being in Japan. Hard to say really, but not making MC parts live while adding that in is just a dumb decision.

>> No.52704230

>>52674590
Because there where better concerts right before them with actual sovl.

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52704345

Next year in the Madison Square Garden in New York, New York, brothers. We'll take over the big Apple.

>> No.52704457

>>52702759
Bro most of the girls were all in different countries. Cope.

>> No.52704508

>>52696098
Not yet. I've been checking every few hours.

>> No.52704527

>>52704345
I wish. East Coast bros always get shafted

>> No.52704710

>>52704527
One day they'll remember we are 45% of the country...

>> No.52705548

Mid to bad setlist. Terrible idea to do songs people don't expect or have never heard before to a live crowd for the first time.

I have a friend that went to the live concert. When he got back, I asked if he wanted to watch the SPWN broadcast and there was nothing he wanted to see again.

If their objective was to leave me wanting more and going to youtube to listen to the stuff I ACTUALLY wanted to hear, it worked.

>> No.52705645

>>52688051
The crowd was hyped until songs they didn't want to hear started playing

>> No.52707634

It didn't flop but it wasn't good either, it's supposed to be holoEn concert yet they were all singing jp songs. Only like 4 or 5 En songs

>> No.52709156

>>52695582
I don't think idols will ever garner the sort of attention in the West that they do in Japan, and feel as though the company is out of touch if they think they can force it down westerners throats.
Unrelated, but their merchandise model is terribly flawed. There are plenty of people, myself included, that would like to buy merch, but they make it all limited. Why would they cap the amount of money that they could potentially make? Things like T-shirts are very easily made-to-order, and they could sell them for $20 and make bank, but they don't.

>> No.52710365

>>52675035
I don't think he knows. He just wanted to make a anti thread.

>> No.52712087

>>52702024
She was likely nervous. Her personality seems... exactly the opposite of what would be required to do a 'live' show effortlessly. I'm both happy for her, and proud of her.

>> No.52712403

>>52674590
>Why did It flop?
Talentless "talents"

>> No.52712405

anyone got a link for an full vod?

wasnt able to watch it earlier

>> No.52712749

>>52674590
>Why did It flop?
because you and your fellow brainrot vermin brain discord troons regularly browse bvtm

>> No.52713009

>>52712403
mmm. tasty bait, anon
talent is literally the last thing you need to be an idol. as an idol, you are a face to sell merch.
The only incredible singers in HoloEN are Bae and Mori.(and Mori would rather 'rap' than sing.) Kiara is okay, but a far better dancer than a singer. They all have skills/talents, but not all of those talents are within the performing arts.

>> No.52713087

>>52713009
>>>>>>>Bae and Mori

>> No.52713142

>>52713009
>They all have skills/talents
blowing yagoo doesnt count

>> No.52713637

>>52713087
Bae reminds me a lot of Senchou. Marine and Bae have impressive vocal range. Mori has a unique timbre that is vastly underutilized with rap.

>> No.52713671

>>52689038
Westoids can't read the atmosphere unfortunately

>> No.52716161

>>52702137
Yup, full of Vshitshow fans that took up the seats meant for Nijisisters lmao

>> No.52716538

>>52688134
Bae said she did her own choreography and mocap

>> No.52716792

>>52716538
What? No way...
If that's true, I'm thoroughly impressed.
Major props, then, to her and the work she put in.

>> No.52721275

>>52701827
damn

>> No.52722313

>>52674590
>first branch-wide concert, hyped for weeks
>32k viewers
>subaru playing yet another old ass jrpg
>45k viewers
just graduate these failures

>> No.52722400

>>52722313
How about you just graduate instead?

>> No.52722576

>>52713142
Kys

>> No.52722640

>>52722313
Numberfags should hang themselves

>> No.52723783

>>52722313
>numberfagging the free preview
Utter desperation.

>> No.52724041

>>52691177
Does your device have audio problems or something? It definitely wasn’t quiet during the stream, just poorly timed due to latency for most MC segments, and prerecorded for SNOT.

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>>52674590
sure nijikek

>> No.52724576

Why does this board eat up the laziest baits

>> No.52724581

>>52723783
>>free preview
>where both poorfags and people that paid can watch
>with no poorfags the actual concert would be even lower
Holy shit...

>> No.52724809

>>52724581
Why the fuck would I watch the youtube free preview when I'm watching the concert stream already dumbass.

>> No.52724854

>>52722313
>Nijisanji
>first branch-wide concert, hyped for weeks
>cancelled 0k viewers

>> No.52724911

>>52724854
KWAB

>> No.52724929

Completely unrelated but I want to cum in my oshi’s hair

>> No.52725305

>>52674590
I don't watch females

>> No.52725796

>>52674590
They needed a bigger venue. Way too small. Sold out in minutes.

Meanwhile, AR was canceled due to 'covid' after dismal ticket sales. Why it's canceled and not 'postponed.' Small venues only.

>> No.52725837

>>52702024
I'd be trembling if I sang Ghost in a concert where Suisei is around too.

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