/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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Getting fucked by your black company even after you leave it

Just Nijisanji things.

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>>52047660
Based, thats what you get for joining blackedsanji

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I'd just like to take this opportunity to point out that Kotoka was doxxed immediately after Sayu reached out to contact her and was rejected.
Funny coincidence, right?

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>>52047747
Kotoka was doxxed? Based thats you get for being in malesanji

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>company account
>"I've been using this account since 2016"
???????

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>Use your personal accounts for corpo work
>This happens
Honestly the least stupid shit she's done

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>>52048009
Oh is this part of the "nooo i have to use my hecking old-ass RM account I HAVE TO!! MUH GENCHINK!!" thing she did?

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I mean why did she change her personal email address to her Niji one in the first place? User error desu. Doesn't take away that Anykara is black as night.

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>>52047660
She wouldn't say stuff like this if Nijisanji wasn't a black company

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>>52048004
Nijisanji insist you change from your personal email address to their corporate one if you want to stream any game from uit.

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>>52047660
So did this retard unironically and actually use her niji email account for account verification/retrieval for her PERSONAL gaming account?

>>52048148
>Nijisanji is a black company because i tied my personal shit to their email system and i don't want to talk to them
You know, i'm gonna go out on a limb and assume Zaion might just be a little on the "touched" spectrum

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>>52048093
This. I hate that I have to defend Blacksanji on this one
>>52048272
So just make a new account? Or are they FORCING her that the only option is to use her old account?

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>>52048009
she really dont have the money to buy the game again i think?, not like niji gonna shell out some money for her

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>>52047660
>Getting free steam / Epic account from each livers debut
Black company...

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>>52047660
>Epic account
It's better this way

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>>52048053
Something like that, she didn't want to regrind from 0 to max adventurer rank and do all the story, so she used her main account

For reference, Aia did the same thing too, except she actually asked the right people (instead of doing the equivalent of asking random people in the hallway at work and picking the best answer), made sure she thoroughly censored her UID (instead of leaking your UID "on accident" in your PL disc), and did a dry run before starting stream, and scrubbed her friendlist (instead of leaving all 50 simps still available to message/invite you to shit)

Aia received 0 problems while showcasing her account and clearing some dungeons

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>>52048329
she was using her old accounts, it's one of the reasons why she was fired according to nijisanji

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>>52048582
Conflicting info with >>52048545
Which is it?

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>>52048582
So they fired her for it and won't even give the accounts back? Nijisanji just straight up stole a couple hundred dollars worth of games from her?

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>>52048632
it's both

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>numbers recline
>go back to dramabaiting
sasuga grifter hag

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>>52048632
Both, one lead to the other
>Zaion does all the shit Aia didn't
>Niji doesnt like that she is getting primogems and shit on stream from randoms/her PL friends
>Basically holding their breath hoping none of these randoms don't say something fucked up
>"Add it to the list"

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>>52048632
It's not conflicting at all. Do your reading comprehension reps.

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>>52048636
>couple hundred dollars
If your career are known for play genshin, that would be more than few thousand dollar.

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>>52048632
What Aia did is true, she checked in with management after realizing she didn't want to start an acc from zero
Zaion was getting primogems from people right? Aia didn't have that issue

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>>52048671
t. lucub

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isnt this epic fault and not anycolor?

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God she is fucking retarded
>first she is retarded for buying on EGS in the first place
>second she is retarded for not changing the linked email knowing she was bout to get fired
>third "borderlands 3 deluxe edition", what fucking clown

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Any of you defending this might be retarded. Even if she wanted to play genshin it has cross progression and cross save so if she made a new account on her company email all progress could be transferred over or separated.

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>>52048272
>>52048329
>>52048632
>>52048636
The thing is - Nijisanji doesn't buy you games, you have to buy them on your own, so you might be convinced to think it's a good idea to use your private account with all the games you already bought instead of buying them 2nd time.

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>>52048950
Yes but it's always ok to shit on blackcolor. Even if it means making EGS look good.

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>>52049031
>Nijisanji doesn't buy you games
no way that's real

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>>52049031
Lets blow some corpos /here/ that buys games again on a corpo account with this
https://store.steampowered.com/promotion/familysharing

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>>52049168
>>52049031
I'm not aware of a single corpo that does buy you games.

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>>52049168
It is, but once nijiniggers whiff out this thread they'll go full defense force saying it's not true.
Just like they said there's no forced suspensions masked as vacations
Just like they said the "gamers" leak wasn't real
Just like they said their designs aren't real and are AI generated
Just like they said 2% isn't true.

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>>52049168
Can you imagine Niggersanji buying games for all of their liver?
That is enough money to buy some yacht miniature.

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As expected of the company that fires people for baseball jokes and managed to run off a talent PRE DEBUT.

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>>52049319

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>>52049168
its funny how anons really think paying for debuts, buying games or paying for covers is something default in the vtuber industry, they really think only nijisanji is like that kek

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>>52049032
This

>>52049168
It's probably true, how else can Riku get his next yacht? Niji has its reputation as a black company to maintain as well

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>Epic

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>>52049384
Idol seems so well funded and run, it's crazy how they consistently show up a company with like 80 million combined subs across all their talents.

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>>52049323
>>52049352
you need to pay for your games in every single company and thats know for years you retards
>>52049368
>managed to run off a talent PRE DEBUT
a thing that happens all the time in the industry, the difference is how this time this leaked. if you think this isnt a thing on auditions you are delusional.

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>>52049384
Guess I'll finally be able to stream that gollum game if I ever get into a corpo.

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>>52048950
No, ESH
Sayu for supporting Epic
Epic for being retard to their paying customer
Niggersanji for making their talent using company email to their game streaming account.

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>>52049389
Niji is the biggest corpo, they should at the bare minimum support their talents more than 2view companies like >>52049384.

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>>52049438
I guess Yagoo also buys a yatch because thats a thing on hololive since 2016
>>52049468
why are you all acting like hololive doesnt do the same? its hilarious

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>>52049389
>>52049480
>Yes my corpo chuuba's company should not have to support my corpo chuuba at all

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>>52048950
No, Epic is correct here. They shouldn't just hand over an account because someone claimed they lost access to their email.

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>>52049526
>>52049566
hololive is the biggest corpo, dont pay for the same things I mentioned and yet you arent saying anything about that huh lets ignore that fact and just say its nijisanji

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>>52049526
>they should at the bare minimum support their talents more than 2view companies
You're talking about a corpo that steals their talents' Youtube plaques just to spite them.

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>>52049368
>Rag on Niji but brainwipe Cover's shit
>Terminate all of your CN wave
>Still bend the knee to Zhang and lose your cash cow/dragon
>Put the girl who started all this shit in eternal limbo suspension
And we haven't even talked about Aloe or Chris yet

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why are anons talking about nijisanji not buying games for their talents as if the same dont happen to hololive? must be holofags

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>>52049621
>>52049623
So it's ok that Kurosanji doesn't pay for their talents' games then?

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>>52048879
And the thing is, she was getting showered with primogems from the get go which means it could be used as a mean to confirm her PL which is why you can't play with personal account if you had your UID public before but the idiot woman-child took it the wrong way. Her PL fans pretty much doomed her the moment she started her genshin stream.

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>>52049384
Buy a ad you fucking retard

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>>52047747
The same Kotoka who is a backstabber? Nijinigger deflection 101. For someone who got doxxed her info is remarkably hard to get by because I didn't get any info. Sayus on the other hand. Didn't even need to go looking because you Nijiniggers went around trying to convince everyone to dox her and handed out the info like some weird shithead Jehovah's Witness
>>52048545
What kinda madlips shit is this? She asked her manager you dumbfuck. Also the UID didn't get leaked on discord. It was in countless fuckin VODs and clips all around the internet because there was never a reason before to hide it. Also everyone knows Aias UID too. So she failed too? Get some real arguments you fuckin retard.
>>52048810
ESL Seanigger
>>52048950
both

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>>52049168
Why would any corp buy you games?

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>>52049504
>ESH means "Everyone Sucks Here." The abbreviation ESH is widely used on social media with the meaning "Everyone Sucks Here" (i.e., everyone is equally to blame). ESH is particularly popular on reddit.com, where people post their personal dilemmas on the AITA (Am I The Asshole) subreddit and receive feedback from other users as to whether they have behaved badly
This fucking board

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>>52049548
I never mentioned Hololive because we're talking about Nijisanji.

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>>52049621
Thanks for admitting that Nijisanji is a shitty company that can't even match a tiny startup like Idol. No one here is talking about Cover, stop letting them live rent free in your head.

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>>52049685
only idol fans can make that argument, as 99% of the industry has the vtuber paying for the games
>>52049702
why are you ignoring hololive? first you say its only nijisanji who dont pay, then others prove the same happens in the industry and you insist. bro if anything you are the one being a corpo bootlicke and hater when you cant recognize that most agencies do the same

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>>52049623
No no, you're right. Let's talk about Aloe and nijiniggers who bullied her into graduating.

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>>52049737
>The same Kotoka who is a backstabber?
The same Kotoka that Sayu said she was still friends with and that Kotoka just completely flubbed her EN explanation and explained it perfectly in JP.

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>>52049775
>>52049783
You literally said only nijisanji does that, I provided another example of it being a thing and you ignored it. But go on, faggot.

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>>52049623
Fuck china, cover is based for doing that
>>52049797
I didn't say only niji did that, cover wasn't a part of the conversation until you sisters tried to deflect

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>thread related to niji
>but holo tho
everytime with nijinigger defense force

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>>52049620
It's dumb, because Cover has a wall of plaques too. They just buy a second one for the talents.

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>>52049848
also the fact that you think i like niji when both are shitty jp companies with a lot of the same rules is hilarious and just shows how much you faggots are actually ENfags from holo

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>>52049848
No, I said that Idol was showing up Nijisanji, because we're talking about Nijisanji, but they're showing up Hololive too. At least Hololive girls make more than 2% on merch though...

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Oh, another shit thread. Does anyone have chubby art or fat fetish art of any vtubing girls or vtubers in general? I want to see some.

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>>52049737
>A thread reader that didn't read the threads
WOOOOOW
She asked her wave manager (which she already had stated she disliked and didn't trust) about using her Main accout, he said "I don't know", so she asked (we assume to be) Noor, who said "No, but maybe if you do X things", she then asked iluna, finana, and elira, all of which said "It's better if you just make a new account. At that time the untrusted manager updated and said "Yes, you can use your Main account, if you do X things".
Zaion then took untrusted managers half answer of "yes" and just ran with it. Apparently if you were in her old Disc you got the @ telling you she was going to stream on her main account and many a credit card got preloaded

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>>52049905
i thought you couldn't mention cover in a thread about nijisanji? i guess only if it makes them look positive!

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>>52049168
>corpos
>buying games for the talents
lol
lmao

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>>52049912
Except you know, the rules that matter. Like taking all of your money from merch. Or your youtube plaque.

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>>52049935
There's nothing wrong with the low merch split, because livers don't take part in developing merch. It's literally free money for them and I hate holobronies for blowing it out of proportion.

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>>52047747
Hello, based department?

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>>52049621
Nijisanji is technically still bigger.

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>>52049804
>Aloe has a stream of her doing nothing but talking about how great her boyfriend fucks her (literally goes on how she orgasms differently depending how her bf is feeling that day)
>Her mass of seething incels and simps go on the warpath
>N-nijisanji did it!
If it was Niji fans, they'd be asking for ASMR of her being plowed

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>>52050006
Paying your talent 2% for merch that is only selling because they worked to cultivate an audience that wants is is messed up.

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>>52047747
Sayu reached out? How could she have done that when she had no access to her corpo accounts?

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>>52049737
>JP chuuba taking up an EN spot
>streams mostly during JP primetime hours
>is a gyaru so she's allowed to collab with males because they are whores by nature and instinct
Kotoka is a cute and sweet girl. I will not tolerate the slander against my favorite nijiEN(JP) member.

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>>52049168
the mental gymnastic people do to shit on nijisanji, next thing you are going to say is that cover pays for members covers

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>>52050121
>because they worked to cultivate an audience
Corpos are carried by their corpos. They didn't cultivate shit. They were handed numbers on a silver platter.
It's only impressive when they manage to somehow lose those numbers, like Petra, Luxiem, and most of all Iluna.

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>>52047747
>Kotoka's VOD about Sayu is barely over 20 minutes long
>Holo/#/ fags still can not be bothered to actually listen to it and see Kotoka tried the hardest to keep Zaion, but was ultimately overwhelmed by Zaion's shit
>Take her "but i can't wish her well" statement out of context for the umpteenth time
I can see why Meloco and Finana were so quick to burn bridges with Zaion, her fandom instantly canonized her into a Martyr before any information even came out

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>>52049952
All I have

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>>52050270
It's because Kotoka is in the clique and doesn't want to lose her spot, if you lose your spot Enna and Vox treat you like shit.

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>>52049967
The problem is with the manager for not making sure to get the correct answer, otherwise what the fuck is the point of having one?
Jesus Christ you bootlickers are desperate to put the blame on anyone but your beloved company

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>>52050345
jesus christ schizos not only don't read the thread they don't even read to what they reply

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>>52049389
are you turbo retarded? is this really a because someone else gets the shitstick so should you kinda argument?
>>52049599
yikes, stupid takes on 4chan. if you can prove it with very little doubt, whats stopping you?>>52049620
how is the overlord supposed to have a batheroom tiled entirely with youtube plaques if he has to distribute them?
>>52049621
>>52049685
I aint for hololive not just buying the games for their talents and writting it off as business expenses but at least they get a decent share in profits as their talents and also actually get access to a fuckin professional studio and trainers for all kinda shit from dancing to singing and prolly more. whats your nijisanji liver gettin? you dumb fuck dont even love your livers, you like the company you fuckin retard.
>>52049718
You dumb fuck dont realize your black corpo overlord was hiring her to get access to these PL fans like every other fuckin vtuber corpo does? or are you telling me the way the nijishitshow goes is by flipping coins and head means yes?

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>>52050258
What mental gymnastics here? Just stating the fact that niji doesn't pay for games isn't twisting any words or logic

[Anonymous No.]

>women is retarded
>her retardation backfires on her
>its everyones fault but hers!
fools and their wallets

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>>52050121
they are only popular because of the brand. you can only make this kind of argument for 2018-2019 members

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>>52050276
And this is decent even though it’s AI slop. I love fat women.

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>>52050366
>Defends Kotoka and blames managment
>you bootlickers are desperate to put the blame on anyone but your beloved company
reading comprehension is a really high standard apparently

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>>52050496
This board loves to put stupid women on a pedestal, somehow the vt's culture is inverted specifically for /here/

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>>52050420
the point is about buying games which hololive doesn't, stop bringing other subjects irrelevant to the discussion

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>>52050496
Why do people here make up things that were never said and get mad about it, where did she blame anyone but herself?

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>>52050533
You need writing reps retard, where was Kotoka mentioned in the post I replied to?

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>>52050438
don't be retarded, you putted in a way that makes it sound bad as if every other company pays for their talents games which doesn't happen

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>>52050622
she wrote an entire document with a double digit pagecount deflecting blame

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>>52050580
The point is about Niji not buying games for their talents, stop bringing Holo into the discussion

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>>52050121
>Talents did nothing but get selected to fill a role/aesthetic
>Do 0 market research or outreach
>Don't do the months of prototyping and beta-runs
>Do none of the distribution or logistics
>Don't host the site or registry for the orders
>Literally just push the merch in its final state
>Not to mention the initial investment that is probably their best performing talent's yearly gross revenue
I think 2% is low too, but i'll give you all a hint
I would need to see what relevant company's give their talents on merch they themselves make, but if Gura's animated shorts are to go by, having corpo foot the bill and you take 2% for "free", seems alot better than bankrupting yourself for some plushies that might not sell

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>>52050626
the post you replied was replying to someone shitting kotoka for throwing zaion under the bus, if you can't follow the thread just leave

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>>52050653
Someone clearly didn't read the document, she literally admitted to making mistakes

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>>52050196
They obviously would have exchanged information with each other beyond that. That's how all of Iluna got doxxed - because Kyo knew all of their social media.

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>>52050776
>Anti of the month in a nutshell

[Anonymous No.]

It's clearly epic's fault. Even garbage mobage games give you your account back if you show receipts. It takes days, but if you have all the info they give it back.

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>>52050776
So true King plap plap plap fat pussy plap plap plap

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>>52050653
Let me rephrase:
Why do people here make up things that were never said and get mad about it, where did she blame anyone in the tweet about her epic games account but herself?
Because that's the only thing we're talking about here

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>>52050776

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>>52049319

Didn't Hololive buy FFXIV for the EN girls just for them to not even play it? Something around that

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>>52050006
>nothing wrong

your livers complaining tho kek, why nijikek always defend riku

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>>52049737
>Also everyone knows Aias UID too.
You sure like to make shit up.

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>>52050936

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>>52050069
>doxxniggers dig up Aloe shittalking Anycolor’s shitty business practices
>Nijifags look up an alternate excuse to harass her to cover their asses
>use tall tales from a teenager on the internet to masquerade as unicorns

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>>52047660
>connected to an account she no longer owns
Which she couldn't even use at her old company, no less.

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>>52050776
Every single one of her "admissions" is tongue in cheek anon. She's about as genuine and sincere as Enna is when she compliments other girls

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>>52049967
>She asked her wave manager (which she already had stated she disliked and didn't trust) about using her Main accout, he said "I don't know"
He said yes. He didn't say maybe or no, he said yes.
>Apparently if you were in her old Disc you got the @ telling you she was going to stream on her main account and many a credit card got preloaded
Holy shit, get your brain tumor fixed Anon. It is hurting you mentally and physically too.
>>52050366
Without a doubt this manager is just vindictive and used any stupid excuse he can to get her off the team. Anon's too fuckin young and unemployed to have ever let that happened to them.
>>52050270
>Holo/#/ fags still can not be bothered to actually listen to it and see Kotoka tried the hardest to keep Zaion, but was ultimately overwhelmed by Zaion's shit
Anon needs to pretend this is true so he can sleep soundly at night. Don't take it away from him.
>>52050230
I will, backstabbing bitch.
>>52050121
>>52050006
Also the only PR outside of the talents shilling the merch is what? The website. If the talent would be silent about the merch, who would buy it?
Does Nijisanji buy banners at times square now or did I miss something?

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>>52050418
>>52050496
>>52050578
>>52051064
Stick to /nijien/ sisters. You're not ready for the catalog.

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>>52051020
True. All 2 of my brain cells are used to think about fucking fat women.

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>>52049168
Holo or Vshojo don't buy you games either.
Neither do OTK or OTV, etc. unless it's some sponsor and the companies provide keys directly
This isn't some surprise.

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>>52051064
This is either Olympic level mental gymnastics or lack of reading comprehension reps

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>>52050580
cant even talk with you nijifucks. bet the hololiggers when asked would go "yeah, i dont think it would be unreasonable for cover to pay for the games needed to create content".

you just wanna get railed by the company, you dirty lil perv. you lil hoe slut. thats what you like, isnt it?

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>>52051094
TLDR for this schizo post
>No i will not believe what 10 other talents, staff, and a verifiable list of infractions said about my oshi. She is innocent and evil kurosanji let a clique of girls/fags remove her!

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>>52051281
This but unironically, Niji is full of bad people.

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>>52051248
>you just wanna get railed, you dirty lil perv. you lil hoe slut. thats what you like, isnt it?
Yeah, wanna meet up?

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>>52050974
One of the main reasons corpos don't outright buy games anymore
NijiEN girls like Selen and Finana went out of their way to get perms via social media, which then led to getting the games purchased
Other times girls like Ame from HoloEN get a game that is an endurance stream or multi-stream one (her with the gator investigator thing or the obradinn) where the investment of purchase is basically immediately paid back so they comp the talent their purchase

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>>52051281
>Vague bullet points are "verifiable" because you can use whatever you want as proof
>Meanwhile she listed specific instances that she claims Niji uses as the actual reasons
>No response from Niji to refute her claims
Now tell me who should I believe

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>>52049623
>Rag on Niji but brainwipe Cover's shit
Regarding Bugland situation, Cover was at fault for listening to bugmen at the beginning by suspending Coco and Haachama and not siding with their talents right off the bat for something completely insane from bugmen's head. Thankfully they learnt with that and are doing a better job.
>Terminate all of your CN wave
Good. Amazing decision. In fact they literally asked themselves to be removed, both the bug audience and the bug talents.
>Still bend the knee to Zhang and lose your cash cow/dragon
Nice headcanon. Actually by seeing what Kson became to be, I can easily believe Coco wanted herself to be out of Hololive.
>Put the girl who started all this shit in eternal limbo suspension
Now you are just being retarded, but that's standard for a nijinigger.
>And we haven't even talked about Aloe or Chris yet
A slut that slanders japanese man and a thief, lmao. Don't try to start something you're going to lose nijinigger

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>>52051281
What flavor of boot did they let you lick today sis, dogshit or piss?

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>>52051064
So true, sister

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>>52051537
Your cum daddy

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>>52047660
kek

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>>52051508
> defends corpo over vtuber
the hypocrisy is fucking hilarious

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>>52049621
Cover does provide salary though.
They can use it for buying games, unlike a certain black company.

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>>52051639
Is that everything you have to say? Roru
Typical.

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>>52049319
Idol does

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>>52051281
>verifiable list of infractions
What's funny about this is that the things they listed are things other NijiENs are guilty of but not Zaion.

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>>52051721
>doesn't deny it

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>>52051845
Not even zaion herself denied the list and yet the bandwagon dramafags keep pretending it wasn't real

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>>52051851
>don't use logic against me AIEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>52050986
These people don't like their oshis. They just love the company more than anything else and would backstab their own oshis if asked to pick a side.
It is hilarious, the kind of bootlicker corporate america runs off of.
>>52051055
And they think we wouldn't notice. Nijiniggers think they are the IRL Anime Protagonist.
>>52051126
They are hated everywhere, it isn't a catalog issue. Who likes them? /lig/ doesn't. hologeneral?/jdif/ and /psg/ for sure doesnt. /vsj+/? They did it, everyone hates them more than vsluts...
They don't even like themselves most of the times. /HAHA/ is basically PMC Wagner of Nijiland.

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>>52051906
And sisters keep saying she admitted no fault

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>>52049621
atleast they can buy the game from merch income. niji cant do that because 2% cant even buy you food for 1 month

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>>52051915
>mindbroken

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>>52052100
>bouncing on my cock moaning and creaming

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>>52052100
>can't refute his arguments
>resorts to buzzwords and babbling

[Anonymous No.]

Based.
I will enjoy her vanishing into obscurity and becoming another footnote.
God even a shitter like Aster makes enough, Reimu just signed a lease for a new place, even the worst performers do fine and make enough, but queen retard just couldn't contain her autism.
And her re-branding arc wont pay off, nobody gives a fuck about her other than this drama, plus shes a boring ass genshin player, I give it until next year before she just vanishes for good.
Poor anti's, constantly clinging to scraps "its OVER guys, t-this for sure".

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>>52051845
>Still fails to even check back to when Zaion herself ADMITTED to the lsit
>Still tries to compare girls who had 1 off moments in their 1-2+ year stints at Nijisanji, compared to the entire list being zaion's doing in less than 30 days
it's all so tiresome

[Anonymous No.]

>>52051906
ya would be a great fuckin nazi Anon.
nijishitcompany would like
>jaywalking? death sentence.
>but the others also jaywalked.
>doesnt matter, i will send ya to the gallows because i personally dont like ya. manager btw.
nijinigger like you: yes manager-san, you slay!

[Anonymous No.]

>>52052365
Don't forget her friend tried to negotiate more revenue on sales merch and a higher base pay, and Niji asked him "unironically who"
To which he then left and pouted and leaked info in a coping rage

[Anonymous No.]

>>52052551
How far are you into your English learning journey? I could help you out offsite if you’d like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52052365
>Posts that will age like milk
She hasn't even been streaming Genshin that much
Also I'm sure she's enjoying streaming much more now than she did with the black company breathing down her neck. I feel bad for the organs still working there and constantly complaining about something while management does fuck all and take half for free
Hope you enjoy defending this shitshow for the rest of your life lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>52052616
im fine and dandy mate, just the way all the retards around me talk.
are you deflecting your ESL status on me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52052490
Just end it all, it's not worth it sis

[Anonymous No.]

>>52047660
American women moment
Japanese (wo)men just left that part of their life behind and moved on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52052666
How did that happen to you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52047660
So she used her personal account for corpo work? That's unfortunate but wtf did she expect to happen? Fucking unemployed behavior.

[Anonymous No.]

Gacha fucking ruins people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52052551
>Do 1 thing on your opening week
>>Ah hey that's fine, we all mess up, here's how we can improve
>Do 2 things on your opening week
>>We need to remember what to do and who to talk to if we're confused
>Do 3 things on your opening 2 weeks
>>Okay, this is getitng bad, you need to start asking us ahead of your plans
>Do 5 things in 3 weeks
>>We are going to need to have a discussion after your stream
>Do 9 things in 4 weeks
>>We will be setting down ultimatums for you, but for now you are on suspension indefinitely and we need to approach your time with us in a capacity that better reflects your motivation

>Take any of these moments, extrapolate it to "muh jaywalking death sentence no one likes you"

[Anonymous No.]

>>52052759
>becames way more successful and makes way more money
Rumao

[Anonymous No.]

>>52052593
Idk if this is true or not but I choose to believe it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52052779
Remember that dude who pawned off his car just to get Jeanne in FGO? It unironically does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52052945
>Klee banner coming up
I...I have a full dendro core team but i NEED my c4 Klee

[Anonymous No.]

>>52052839
>Asks another manager for help when your current manager is clearly incompetent
>Gets suspended
Nice support system for your talents, Nijinigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>52052365
You're the type of person who thinks brands are your friends, aren't you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52053116
Unironically yes

[Anonymous No.]

I know you're here manager-san, get fucked

[Anonymous No.]

>>52053112
Doing exactly what the final line says like a retard i see
Also
>Ask Incompetent manager, he says i dunno
>Ask Noor, she says no unless you do what Aia's doing to safeguard the account
>"LOL OKAY" As she tells her PL fans when and where
>"Zaion, why are you getting gifts via Genshin Impact?"
>LOL Xsoleil manager said it's okay!
>Finana you believe me right! I would totally not spin this narrative to win even one person over for this argument!

[Anonymous No.]

>>52053093
Anon, the game will probably shut down internationally in next the half year because China. Don’t do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52052365
okay there's no way Aster makes enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52053290
Mihoyo moved out of China earlier this year, their HQ is in some SEA country now but still "Totally swear loyalty to CCP and all that, promise"

[Anonymous No.]

>b-but Cover doesn't buy their talents games either!
Cover pays flat salary on top of all the superchats, yt memberships and merch sales. They essentially do pay for the games holos play on stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52052759
I'm glad Yugo is free and doing great. Are people seething about it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52053172
At least you're honest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52052852
Despite the tranny shit, Yugo has handled it alot better, His/her/apache helicopter is getting better numbers than in nijisanji. Without leeching onto the controversy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52053277
Nijiniggers once again proving they don't argue in good faith, read the fucking document you retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>52052779
I haven't played Gacha in over a month and it makes shit so much less depressing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52053405
Unlike Zaion, Yugo clearly had shit that needed to be resolved, and was after he left. His genmates (Especially fulgur) did everything they could behind the scenes to make Yugo feel loved, and ultimately the call was to leave corporate behind
People actually liked Yugo because he owned his flaws and fuck ups

[Anonymous No.]

>>52053467
Instead he's leeching off of Shoto and vshojo. But sisters like him and Shoto so it's okay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52052761
I finished my degree and got a high paying job that is part remote and part being in the middle of butt fuck nowhere.
everyone here is a retard and worships me like a god for being able to fix their internet issues but it aint sunshine and honey because everything smells like shit starting at 5am from spring to fall.

[Anonymous No.]

Do people still pretend to watch and care about this bitch?
You fags haven't moved on to the newest "drama" yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52053277
>Zaion gets assigned a shit "manager"
>Isn't supposed to get help elsewherebecause she got hit with a suspension for it
With that kind of management I would unironically get executed for jaywalking

[Anonymous No.]

>>52053116
No I just like seeing dipshits like Sayu fail.
Something so simple, such a basic bitch little job, and she couldn't even do that so she lashes out, about the only thing she has any knowledge in is knowing how dramafags work, to bad that sort of thing fizzles out since you cunts are constantly hungry for the latest "yab".
This disingeous cunt and her little sob story documents, shirking all responsibility and just to drive home what a piece of shit grifter she is, a picture of her dying cat, so yea, fuck her. She's a worthless piece of shit.
>>52053317
Except he does and has said so, enough to live comfortably, brain-rotted number monkeys don't seem to understand that the metric for being a successful streamer is very low. Zaion could have lived happily, have billions of genshin pulls, had a part in the star rail thing Niji did, but she tossed it all away, now she keeps lashing out because she's allergic to the concept accountability. The fact that Kotoka mysteriously got doxxed following Sayu bitching her should tell you everything you need to know about what kind of person Sayu is.

So I will repeat my previous statement, I will enjoy watching her fail, and I will enjoy watching Nijisanji not go anywhere while you retards screech into the void.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52053587
Oh wow, want to e-date?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52049319
Cover does. Kiara was talkimg about Jemma giving her steam cards

[Anonymous No.]

Itt: asian teenage fan girls flabbergasted at the fact that an older woman willingly chooses independence and personal liberty over remaining under an oppressive company's boot

[Anonymous No.]

>>52053481
>Read that document Zaion made specifically to make her as good as possible and 1 staff member as bad as possible
Or
>Listen to Finana, Kotoka, Ver, Doppio, Hex and Aia's accounts over Zaion's shit
>Then drink that down with the official statement regarding her list of infractions with just enough info on the title to know what stream it happened on

[Anonymous No.]

>>52049168
This applies to literally every corp

[Anonymous No.]

>>52053530
You forgot to mention the fact Yugo was un-person'd and blatantly phased out of media nearly the exact moment they left.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52053694
>Listen to Finana

[Anonymous No.]

>>52052759
This, but unironically

[Anonymous No.]

>>52049724
Kek, how do you think idol got noticed in the first place?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52053694
>quantity over quality
Classic Nijisanji approach

[Anonymous No.]

>>52052839
>Do 1 thing on your opening week
>Ah hey that's fine, we all mess up, here's how we can improve
Actually improved and fixed the "issues"
>Do 2 things on your opening week
>Gives unclear instructions that do not make any sense
Maybe I just need to ask a senior member
From here on out manager tries to get rid of her forever because he is a pety bitch.
>Do nothing but Nijisisters are reaching
>We will be setting down ultimatums for you, but for now you are on suspension indefinitely and we need to approach your time with us in a capacity that better reflects your motivation
The ultimatum is die or get fired.
>Totally reasonable and normal!

[Anonymous No.]

>>52052759
>Japanese
now flip part of japan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52053537
And Zaion definitely isn't leeching off of support from /here/, right? I'd take networking over making my persona "the victim" over and over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52053619
The suspension wasn't over Genshin, but it was a humongous "we need to talk"
More than likely her suspension was a 4 hit combo of
>Going over her manager to talk to Noor and ignore both inputs to make a 'he said she said' narrative....all while trying to play off her donations in game
>The rape joke
>The ROM hacking rant (about nintendo games no less)
>The PL call backs in FFXIV

[Anonymous No.]

>>52053627
I look forward to seeing people like you seethe as Sayu enjoys streaming more than the slaves at Niji do while their numbers continue to decline

[Anonymous No.]

>>52047660
Anything niji touches turns into shit

[Anonymous No.]

>Become 600 views shitter like in your old indie days
>"LOOK GUYS I STILL HAVE DRAMA PLEASE COME BACK"
Pathetic

[Anonymous No.]

>>52053865
>All of iLuna and xSoleil are either distant, indifferent, or removing themselves from Zaion and xSoleil have made their opinions and BTS History about her known
>Finana, the girl who has literally nothing to gain from even uttering Zaions name or drama in any capacity, gets completely bussed trying to defend her (turns out Zaion lied about the entire story and made the narrative suit her as a woeful child being bullied)
>The Elira Clique even stays quiet apart from Kyo, but has a very accented point about her
>"Nah bro, just trust Zaion, she wouldn't lie....again"

[Anonymous No.]

>>52047660
Hopefully she is able to get something worked out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52054157
The irony is she lost even more viewers than before she was in Niji. She shot both her feet off trying to perpetually play the victim

[Anonymous No.]

>>52053941
What else could she do when she was stuck with a manager who didn't know shit? She clearly didn't want to fuck up more, which is why she tried to talk to someone else
Rape joke wasn't even on management's radar until two weeks after the suspension began, I know this because that's how long the vod stayed
The ROM hacking "rant" was not a rant, she only mentioned it once and it was removed from her vod shortly afterwards
I don't know anything about FFXIV so no comment there

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>>52053627

[Anonymous No.]

>>52053694
>her list of infractions
ILLEGAL JOKES

[Anonymous No.]

>>52053694
Is this the same Finana that joined a discord server to privately play with her favorite fans, got told by management to stop and then joined a more hidden one to keep playing with them? The same one that stuck her fingers in her ears and told the whole world they were wrong when they tried to explain the origin of the word "trap"? The one that makes racist remarks against black people and jokes about HIV? The one that pirates games and uses emulators while streaming? Are you talking about THAT Finana? Because I don't trust that Finana, sorry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52047660
As the OG nijisanji hater from /jp/ this whole mess makes me laugh.
I won.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52054289
You're fucking gaslighting, stop it. Stop it right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>Sisters actually moved from the main thread to here

Damn I thought y'all had streams to watch, there are so many livers and all

[Anonymous No.]

>>52054289
I'm just fucking losing it how someone could type "Listen to Finana" unironically.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52053694
>Listen to Finana, Kotoka, Ver, Doppio, Hex and Aia's accounts

Did Aia even have an account? Did Doppio actually say anything other than "let's move on"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52054318
The nijisanji thread in /jp/ is fucking terrible by the way

[Anonymous No.]

>>52054242
Your bias is showing so strongly I suspect you're involved with NijiEN directly somehow

[Anonymous No.]

>>52054182
>Nothing to gain
There's easy clout right there, just bash on my coworker who is getting flamed by Twitter trannies while she can't fight back, I'll get more followers this way for sure!

[Anonymous No.]

>>52054393
Twitter freaks have got to be inhuman and shameless to try to argue something using fucking Finana, unless it's naming her countless shortcomings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52049319
fishman bought phase girls diablo4 with the stipulation that they play hardcore

[Anonymous No.]

>>52053627
>I will enjoy watching Nijisanji not go anywhere

Damn, you must be having loads of fun with that considering the new wave's numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>52054371
Only the EN girls are streaming right now and you know sisters don't watch them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52054442
qrd?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52054289
Intersting rrat, however
>Zaion verified this story and apologized to finana both in some discord coversation and in her document
You can ad hominem the fish all you want, it and 2 dimes don't make a quarter in terms of discounting her claims against the retarded zaion

[Anonymous No.]

>>52054442
What's that thread like I can barely read moon

Captcha: NSADJP

[Anonymous No.]

>>52054457
It's basically a free 400k+view clip
She has every reason to make shit up especially while Sayu was unable to respond

[Anonymous No.]

>>52054450
>Verifiable fact via twitch analytics
>NAH BRO ITS BIAS

[Anonymous No.]

>>52054433
>Finana "Educate yourselves" Ryugu
>Kotoka "I can't even wish her well" Torahime
>Hex "I'm a SA survivor but I will make you a mother" Haywire

[Anonymous No.]

>>52054532
zaion apologized and Finana took it as gaslighting

[Anonymous No.]

>>52054520
>>52054538
It's in english, just go there and have a look for yourself and form your own opinion

[Anonymous No.]

>>52051281
>verifiable list of infractions
>illegal games
How much do you get per post, mr intern?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52054442
Never went there in the first place.
I'm an oldfag from the times every chuuba were discussed in a single thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52053627
that's good then, I know Aia makes enough but aster doesn't seem to get much in donations or supas so I was a bit worried, guess it helps if you are rooming with others
also it's pretty funny seeing Sayu complain about being fucked over despite doing tons of shit to make herself look like an idiot

[Anonymous No.]

>>52054587
No your so-called 'facts' hinge on a)assuming Zaion is lying with everything she says and b)taking whatever NijiEN side says at face value, that is such clear bias it baffles me how you can pretend otherwise.

[Anonymous No.]

Everyone knows that nijisanji is a black company

[Anonymous No.]

>>52052365

[Anonymous No.]

>>52053694
>Listen to Finana
Lol, kek and even lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52054664
>Zaion got in trouble for liking comments that were from niji antis
>>You can see this with your own eyes
>Using a copyrighted song without getting it approved
>>You can hear it
>Expressing her will to perform streams using illegal games (Aka Pirated games)
>>Her entire rant about ROM hacking and her history of pirating games

I could go on, but you get the point

[Anonymous No.]

She should have changed the thing the instant there was problems.
Even if she had no intentions of leaving in the future.
This goes for the rest of you reading this in corps and re-used accounts.
I know some holos did it. *cough* fartist *cough*. (and she got instantly doxxed on that day.. Loafers...)

[Anonymous No.]

>>52054532
rrat? Everything I posted was true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52052365
I don't understand how you bootlickers are such disgusting shills with Rikus cock so far down your throat.
PLEASE tell me you get paid for this? Because at least then I can say fair.
Shilling for a company is the dumbest subhuman thing you can possibly do in life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52054866
rrat is short for "narrative" you braindead 3rd worlder

[Anonymous No.]

>>52054653
>Hex "likes untagged photos of sicklings" Groomwire
>Hex "CutForMe" Knifewire
>Hex "Pink Candle" Dildowire

[Anonymous No.]

>>52054318
You did indeed win. I salute to you.

Me on the other hand, I got baited by all the shine and glimmer. Until Nijiniggers showed their true face to me and the blackcompany doing more vile things.
I am the bozo with the cone on his head, happy to admit it. Atleast I am trying and learning...
Unlike Nijisisters who totally do not like their Oshis. They simp for the brand which has nothing to offer.

[Anonymous No.]

>it's Nijisanji's fault that I didn't want to make my personal and company account separate
Sorry but get fucked Sayu. Your problem is with Epic anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>Why is Sayu pumping out so much drama recently
The mystery abounds anon...the mystery abounds

[Anonymous No.]

>>52054855
There was no rant, she only mentioned she played romhacks in the past, and never said anything about intending to play them. I watched the debut 2.0 vod so I know this.
Spreading this misinformation is not worth the pennies they pay you, intern-kun

[Anonymous No.]

>>52055181
She did mention wanting to play Pokemon romhacks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52055295
Prove me wrong and give me the timestamp then

[Anonymous No.]

>>52055175
Holy FLOP

[Anonymous No.]

>>52055181
Wanna know how i know you're full of shit?
The 2.0 VOD was privated near instantly, so re-watching it, unless you recorded it yourself, is impossible
>Was such a thing Nintendo was basically on the phone with Anycolor during stream
>>Nah bro it was just a little thing!

[Anonymous No.]

>>52054894
>he thought anycolor and riku being their oshis was a meme
I mean, they say things like picrel. It's just standard behavior from them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52050496
>Nijisanji can never do any wrong its always the talents fault
50+ graduations by the way and that is not counting his brothel house where he graduated 52 of them

[Anonymous No.]

>>52054855
>Based, literally shitting on your corpo on company time
>I don't care
>Oh no, the horror
>Really hard to find something I care less about
>Never happened
>Pirating game is based, too bad it never happened
I really hope they pay you by the post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52055373
And you're the one we should believe because...? Are you Nintendo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52048272
>>52047660
jezas

[Anonymous No.]

>>52055373
>archives don't exist
I've literally seen you people post Ike and Ren karaokes the moment the streams finished.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52053317
They get a base pay and the obvious cut of their membership and superchats
The whole >2% shit is from merch sales cut
And yes, there are unironically retarded people who think Coco's "I wish talents got 50% cut from merch" was her saying she got 50% from Cover

[Anonymous No.]

>>52055389
Holy shit, Niji really did attract the worst of the worst

[Anonymous No.]

>>52055474
>You can't PROVE that list of shit she got fired for
>>Actually, yes you can, here's some examples
>Well, it's BASED that she did them then
>Also, intern
Man, i don't even think you're a holofag, because they at least have logic in their arguments

[Anonymous No.]

>>52055543
There is no evidence Nijis get a base salary, stop bullshitting

[Anonymous No.]

>>52054318
>"I browsed /jp/ in 2019-2020 when it had the biggest tourist infestation since /pol/ in 2016
What an oldfag, We truly are not worthy

[Anonymous No.]

>>52055543
>>52055641
There is, in fact, evidence of the opposite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52054855
>Zaion got in trouble for liking comments that were from niji antis
She was already leaving the company by that point, and the comments weren't from "niji antis" they were from people that hated Kyo for having already publicly attacked Zaion and joined in the harassment she was getting. Adding that to the list as if it had any impact on her leaving was absurd.
>Using a copyrighted song without getting it approved
She watched her coworkers new song, it wasn't something heinous.
>Expressing her will to perform streams using illegal games (Aka Pirated games)
Nice lies, as others have already pointed out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52055373
Not that guy but no, I remember constantly talking about that specific instance the day the graduation was announced because I remember her talking about it during a stream since it was clear she knew that that kind of thing was a no-no and said doing so was not possible, and it got used as a common speaking point anyway. Your gaslighting about it won't change what I watched during that stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>52055707
You are free to post it. There are JPs going back to 2019 even talking about not having a salary they even call themselves "on a contract" and not actual nijisanji employees
Your next post will be "schizo" "cope" etc

[Anonymous No.]

>>52055389
The absolute most subhuman pieces of shit you could ever imagine...
99% of vtuber fans are there to support their beloved chuubas.
Nijinigs are there to... give all their money to a big corporation to make it earn more money and pretend its success is also theirs...
That is incredibly depressing to imagine where everything went wrong in their lives...

[Anonymous No.]

>>52055175
>6k viewers is flopping
>somehow an ex talent STILL being harassed by their old company is her fault and apparently a cry for more numbers.
What is wrong with you nijiniggers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52055814
And yet there's accounts from Mito that they received salaries

[Anonymous No.]

>>52055889
>harsssed because the retard is having problems with a store she chose to use
delusional kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>52055889
>He thinks 6k was post niji
oh no no no anons, one of your own is retarded!

[Anonymous No.]

>>52047660
It's unfortunate, but this is what happens when you join a black company such as anycolor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52055781
>>52055181
Please understand, and I mean this sincerely. The young zoomer Asian girls blindly defending the company know absolutely nothing about the old romhacking scene, or about how games preservation essentially hinges on backing up and maintaining copies of games because companies won't bother to do so. Anything other than outside of playing a video game normally is unironically alien to them.
If anyone told these young sisters about how Toby Fox got his start early on, they'd probably have an aneurysm.

[Anonymous No.]

sayu is on the level of aster rn kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>52055814
>>52055975
Both of you are right. Certain talents get approached with base salary (which staff also receive, but at a far lower paygrade), whereas most (Especially new recruits) are offered cuts from certain things.
Kanae himself said voice packs give the best split at 50/50

[Anonymous No.]

>>52056085
more like you are the one ignorant here if you think romhack is accepted in japanese agencies when they could make them lose sponsors and permissions if they are mentioned like that

[Anonymous No.]

>>52055610
Intern-kun, I listed the things you mentioned that are provably false, meaning the whole pirate games thing that, and I will reiterate for your demented mind, did not happen.
The copyright music stuff is a nothingburger, no one cares, worst case scenario you get a copyright claim. Also literally happened once, as in one (1) time, they really had to scrape the bottom of the barrel for that bullet list, on top of making stuff up.
On liking anti's comments, who cares, she was probably already fired by that point. Still pretty based.
I call you an intern because I hope you are one, otherwise you are just a dude with a shitty company as his oshi, which is pretty sad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52056129
the cuts in nijisanji are 50/50 vp, 35 SC and the rest we dont know, but they focus on merch

[Anonymous No.]

>>52056085
Easy there grandpa, no one gives a shit about you or your ancient ass "influencers"
No one gives a shit if she WAS in the romhacking scene, but AnyColor gives a shit if you are endorsing it in the middle of your stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>52055814
I was agreeing with you, dude.

[Anonymous No.]

damn it's been months and sisters are still making shit up about zaion
fucking kek

[Anonymous No.]

>CCV is everything!!!!!!
Nijisisters and numberfags making the same classic mistake once again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52055389
The group also contains people who spew this retardation

[Anonymous No.]

>>52056167
I mean I get it, but don't look into the companies that people like Toby Fox and Christian Whitehead eventually worked for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52056283
shouldn't nijisisters be seething about the huge ccv drop off from en that anycolor themselves even showed in their last report

[Anonymous No.]

>>52056280
They will make her the next hitler or die trying

[Anonymous No.]

>>52054894
>>52055389
>>52055819
Besides this being a shitpost from the numbers thread you see cult-like behavior from holodrones way more often. And they shit on talents that leave the company too. Coco and Rushia anyone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52056402
>whataboutism

[Anonymous No.]

>>52056173
>It's not a big deal
>It's a nothing burger
>It's literally nothing
>Why did she get fired?
My guess is you have no grasp on reality and think a list of 12 general infractions citing over (up to) 30 instances of said infractions would be "nothing burgers"
It's like being to work late or leaving early once, vs doing both every day for a month and being told to stop every couple of days but still doing it
But then again, we're talking about zaion drones who can not comprehend the fact that she agreed to have a certain set of standards and rules she should abide by, but didn't

[Anonymous No.]

>>52056280
They are on full force, made a shitpost about Gundo and Koshien and it immediately got the classic "good, she was bad for the company", "glory to koshien" replies. They don't even try to hide the interns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52056401
Based, free rent

[Anonymous No.]

>>52056478
mucho texto.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52056478
Your narrative falls apart when multiple other people in NijiEN were breaking a bunch of rules they terminated Zaion for and they got away without even getting suspended

[Anonymous No.]

>>52056550
>suspended
They don't do that over there, they prefer "vacation", "family visit", "covid". Educate yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52056336
Kek. That's funny since the tribalism between holo and niji originated from nijifags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52056550
>less than 30 days with almost 30 infractions
>365 to 730 days with 1 or 2, possibly 5 at most
No the narrative holds up perfectly, it's your lack of work experience and the tolerances of your superior's mercy that is lacking

[Anonymous No.]

you can tell which posters have only ever flipped burgers for minimum wage because they're unfamiliar with the idea of a probationary period

[Anonymous No.]

I am an unironic nijifan that enjoys several JP livers, most of the EN girls, and even some of the EN boys like Doppio and Sonny. And even still, the absolute vitriol and venom the fanbase puts against Sayu is absolutely disgusting and makes me want to go full catalog schizo.

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>>52056674
Anon, it'd be a miracle if any of the zaion drones could say they have a "career" and actually mean it in genuine earnest

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>>52047660
>Getting fucked by your black company
Heh, and here you faggots were telling me that Japs aren't into blacked stuff.
Clearly that's not true, you lying fucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52056694
I too enjoy Doppio's humor. It is sad that Nijisisters are like this but at least they are easily identifiable

[Anonymous No.]

>>52056694
>>52056764
>Sayu could remedy this by just asking for this shit back, since it's well within her rights as a former employee and content creator on record
>Literally doesn't want to and is hoping for a magical fix to manifest (see>>52048148)
>Retards defend her retardation and assume nijisanji is being malicious in this

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> Ironically she has been the only one causing drama recently
>the only one mentioning niji so much more than niji talk about her
> It's niji's fault niji's fault niji's fault
So much for a better streaming life after leaving lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>52056885
Dont forget to buy stocks so daddy Riku can buy his yacht. Blackcolor is NEVER in the wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>52056885
Would you want to talk to your former employer who fucked you over? I didn't think so

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>>52056694
>>52056877
>Zaion
Based and funny streamer, played a nice variety of games and had an interesting group dynamic.
>Sayu
Genshit spammer and menhera drama whore bitch who threw everything away because she couldn't use her Genshin account. Survives by trying to farm more drama now.

It's like the difference between Coco and Kson.

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>>52056941
Jesus dude, go back to summer school or cram school or whatever it is you attend, because just that response alone is proof enough you're not of age to be here

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>>52049384
idol doesnt pay their contractors until they call them out on twitter

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>>52056885
>Rights
>Japanese company
Sure, that would go swimmingly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52056998
>Can't argue so resorts to ad-hominem attacks
It's a sad day for the intern

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>>52057019
Small jewish company, please undastand

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>>52057019
it's ok when jews do it

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>>52056967
Those two have literally the same content, the only difference is the Niji brand

[Anonymous No.]

>>52057019
>didn't even want to pay her with exposure like nijisanji does instead ghosted her for months and didn't pay at all
This is where I act surprised right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52057019
THE GOYIM KNOW
SHUT IT DOWN

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>>52057019
>idol doesnt pay their contractors until they call them out on twitter
>except they got paid two days before making the post
they deserve to be called out for the piss poor communication but come on anon, don't be retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>52057019
Shouldn't have paid, bitch is probably a tax dodger like all the other "comms open" artists.

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>>52057083
How do you want me to respond dipshit? Only the most spineless of cucks would do some Sayu tier shit and be pouty the entire time instead of getting their shit back
I've been let go for shit i had 0 control over because my boss hired his 2 best friends to be admin of programs they had 0 experience in
I STILL got my shit back i donated to the program because it was mine and i walked right back in 2 days later and i got a guaranteed letter/call of recommendation for my next employment by said boss

Sorry your oshi finds more joy posting highly extrapolated nonsensical drama instead of getting shit done, but most people with employment history know 2 things
>you will get fucked over at least once
>you will see them cover their asses and you will get whats yours quickly or with court-assistance

[Anonymous No.]

Bottom line for this thread: company worship is fucking cringe.

Support talents, not companies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52057214
>new ip instantly damage controlling
Thread got linked to their discord? The artist only got paid after they called idol out publicly

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>>52057070
I unironically want to see an anon paint a picture of the hellscape they assume Japanese companies to be

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>>52057299
*goes back to shitting on Kson and Mikeneko/Nazuna in another tab

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>>52057299
I would definitely not call Sayu a "Talent" as she has none to speak of, but she is a "content creator".....sad that is mostly hinges on drama content creation

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>>52057292
Oh, so they pay you by the word. Still not reading that, but congratulations on the rise.

[Anonymous No.]

Another thread exposing nijinigs as subhuman creatures lol
It's almost like they need to convince themselves more then anyone else

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>>52057395
>Words are scary
also
Raise* you SEA tier dipshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>52057292
Nijiseethe lmao
Nobody gives a shit about your life
Also you don't know what she's working on when all you see is one tweet, she's obviously working to get a model for her redebut

[Anonymous No.]

>>52057451
>Also you don't know what she's working on when all you see is one tweet, she's obviously working to get a model for her redebut
Are you....and i say this with sincere concern, genuinely mentally retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52057299
>support talents
Where is your support for her? Why did you abandon her after only one or two streams?

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>>52057431
It's pathetic really, they should just stay in their containment general

[Anonymous No.]

>>52057451
>Zaion drone can't even be asked to read his former oshi's tweet
I expected the drones to be stupid, but not this bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>52057292
Nijiseethe lmao
Sorry your a cuck faggot that is easy to dupe, but you need to know most people in real countries don't have to face that. Hope you have better luck on your next life

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>>52057431
It really makes the cult comparisons to NijiEN that much more fitting in terms of how the fans blindly defend their “god”, the company.

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>>52057497
I may be retarded but at least my oshi isn't Nijisanji

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>>52051281
Unironically this

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>>52057562
Holy ESL, off yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>52057431
>>52057510
>>52057569
>nooooo you're not allowed to say anything negative about Sayu! you're worshipping the corporation!
>Kson and Mikeneko/Nazuna? Fuck them, they're whores
What did holopocrites mean by this

[Anonymous No.]

>>52057562
I expect you to read this first before replying
https://files.catbox.moe/sv7eoh.txt

[Anonymous No.]

>>52057660
I don't watch corporate vtubers, nice try

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>>52057497
What did the sister mean by this?

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>>52057448
I think you are misunderstanding, I'm not reading that because it's on the same tier as a paid ad, not because of its length.
I also find it funny to be corrected for a typo by a guy that can't use proper punctuation, but you do you, and let's not talk about:
>I STILL got my shit back i donated to the program
which is quite a sentence.

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>>52057660
VshojoJP has their own turf war to fight against Cover Drones so you won't really see any of them posting here
Most of the people here are just dramafags hunting for the next (You) or antis that need a new excuse to blame AnyColor

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>>52057857
niji wouldn't be in this position if they stopped being a black company

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>>52057906 (me)
doesnt help that they attracted the worst subhumans to be their fanbase, they made their bed and now they should lie in it

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>>52057857
>Anycolor can never do any wrong its always everyone elses fault
He says this as Anycolor constantly gets exposed for shitty industry practices, stealing merch, being subhumans in general to their vtubers, running a actual chinese sweatshop of vtubing, every single person in the company hates each others and would eat each other alive for 5 viewers

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>>52057660
You can shit on sayu all you want lmao
I am enjoying seeing you nijinigs litterally chimp out and justify going to war on your own former talent for a Deez Nuts jokes, talking about romhacks, playing a genmates song because it is le copyright, and shit talking their own coworkers instead of pretending to like them

It may be bizarre to you nijinigs, but nobody actually cares about corporate infractions unless they are in the corpo itself. As outsiders we giggle at retarded rules

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>>52057906
Probably, but every company is "Black" based on the opinions of others
>Cover with how they treated HoloCN, The early Holostars, Aloe, Chris, Rushia, Coco. Can go a step further with them letting Ina and ENMa "nepo hire" Sana
>Phase leaving the girls to rot for Pippa
>Wactor being Wactor
>Idol not paying a penny until the tweets came out
>Kawaii with Oceane
>Niji with the JP bullying debacle and how they handled "proto" EN to IN talents now with Yugo and Sayu and her friend that wanted more money out the door

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>>52058038
Seriously, Nijisisters should at least try to justify their company's behavior before trying to attack others

[Anonymous No.]

>>52050121
>because they worked to cultivate an audience
that applies to extremely few people

[Anonymous No.]

>>52047747
And nobody seemed to know until you brought it up.

Whoop dee do, here's a (you).

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>>52049468
Getting too obvious, rabbi

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>>52058098
>cherrypicking the parts that make her look good
She couldn't defend herself against a lot of accusations in the doc and straight up lied about not liking comments shitting on her branch mates and calling Anycolor a black company. It's not an unbiased piece. She's trying to make herself look as good as possible and a dindu victim. And I will keep calling her a drama whore because that's what she is. She can't let this shit go unlike Yugo.

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Why the fuck would you switch over your EGS to a corpo account? You can literally switch your name on EGS for free at any time. On top of that what the fuck are you going to play on egs that isn't on steam? Fortnite??? You can't even say genshin or shit like that cuz you can download an individual launcher for that.

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>>52058723
>Gives us more information than Niji did to defend herself
>"She couldn't defend herself and lied"
This is why everyone thinks you Nijikeks are subhuman

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>>52058837
Well the difference is that Anycolor didn't lie about any of it, so they're already more credible than her. Sure, some of the reasons given were stupid but none of it was a false accusation.

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>>52058723
You don't seem to understand nijinigs. Nobody cares about retarded infractions and don't care that she was fired.
How your company handled it was retarded, and watching you contort yourself trying to justify retarded shit is funny.

When I was fired as a kid from McDonald's for wearing white socks instead of the black socks required by the uniform standards I didn't have customers come around screaming it was totally justified because the rules. Everyone involved just had a good laugh because it's a retarded rule and everyone went their way, and I bring up that story because it is amusing to laugh about dumb company rules to other normal people

[Anonymous No.]

>>52055686
Kizuna thread, that later became the vtuber general, ended in /jp/ because I funposted too much on /a/.
Been posting in /jp/ almost since it got created.

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>>52059186
Intentionally posting vague bullet points isn't lying but does not make Niji a credible company, it only serves to make Niji look petty and malicious. Also considering:
>stealth suspensions
>"covid"
and many more, most people would justifiably hesitate to believe Niji on anything

Also where did she lie about that? She straight up admitted to doing it and said she did not excuse herself for it

Stop lying.

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>>52059398
The thing is; there's a lot of stuff in her doc that is indeed worthy of a termination, specially the part she lied about. You can argue that some points are stupid and Anycolor listed them for no reason other than to pad the list of infractions, but that doesn't mean she didn't deserve to be terminated.

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>>52059398
>no argument
>soc posting
rumao

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>>52059573
You literally contradicted yourself in two sentences, impressive.
Instead of vagueposting about "the thing she lied about", why don't you say what she lied about, asshole?

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>>52059688
Point 11:
>“Giving “likes” to comments falling under defamation of NIJISANJI Livers and ANYCOLOR Inc. using social media accounts that she personally operates.”
There's screenshot proof that she did that. I can't find it right now though, so either take my word on it or don't.

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>>52059573
Out of all the points Niji listed for her termination, you chose "liking anti comments" as the one that was "especially worthy of termination"? That's some CCP-tier bullshit lmao

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>>52058723
>comments shitting on her branch mates
Yeah, the single comment that was buried under a long paragraph that ended in "fuck kyo btw" that she could only see by clicking "read more"
everything else liked were just calling her based and glad she was freed from the "black company"

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>>52059573
>A lot of stuff in her doc that's worthy of termination
>Some points are stupid and Anycolor padded their list
Which one is it retard?

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>>52059747
>>52059688
Nta but she literally did claim that she had only ever accidentally liked one tweet from an anti while she was giving hearts to YouTube comments attacking her coworkers, company and etc.
>>52059794
Whether or not you want to argue that it's stupid isn't the current argument at hand. The current argument at hand states that she was honest and anycolor wasn't, but that part alone is one of the parts where you can immediately identify that she was not being honest

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>>52059929
It was probably what caused Anycolor to go scorched earth on her with the billion other bullet listed points too. I mean she literally liked a comment calling them a black company, what do you expect.
>inb4 dipshits reply with "but she's right!"
And Anycolor was also right in terminating her.

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>>52059929
I'm also not arguing about the stupidity of the list, that's already been decided. But when you say one thing and then completely do a 180 like
>>52059870 summarized, your narrative falls apart easily

Also, so what if she liked more than one comment? She said it was accidental and she was already under a lot of stress from the suspension. She was also probably already heading out the door when she liked those comments.
It's also the most stupid point for you to focus on considering how terrible the other points were, now that we're given the context. Unless Niji comes out to explain their side with more details I have to fall back on her explanations since they do line up

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>>52056029
A store she used before niji

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>>52059870
Nice leading the witness retard, it's not a list of terminatable offenses, it's a list of infractions that, after discussion and deliberation, lead to her termination

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>>52059573
Once again nijinigs an employer does not need to justify anything to fire an employee, they can fire an employee because a nigger or if they wore white socks. You just use corpospeak and say "employee was terminated for not adhering to corpo standards and disagreements"
If the employer is retarded enough to put down reasons then the public can now make fun of those reasons no matter how legitimate. Niji is now marred for firing because of a Deez Nuts jokes because they were retarded enough to place that as a reason.

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>>52057214
nope, they only got money AFTER doing the callout, and idolEN offered hush money with extra pay for their work and magically assigned and hired a new position for accounting overnight too.
>teehee I know we were supposed to pay you in May but we requested an invoice 3 days ago hehe, please accept an extra 50% bonus for this "miscommunication"

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>>52060151
It wasn't accidental, she was on her old YouTube account liking any comments that were attacking her coworkers and company. Sorry anon but in this case it's pretty easy to see that she was dishonest about that. I'm not interested in going through everything to see what she did and didn't talk about, but I can say that in my experience if you lie About such an easily disprovable thing, the chances of you being completely honest with everything else is not high. Especially if you lie about only doing it once when you did it multiple times.

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>>52047660
>Using the same email and linking everything together
Fucking retard did this to himself by not creating separate emails for everything. Why didn't you do that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52060151
She probably justifies lying about that with:
>it wasn't me! it was Sayu! Sayu is not me!
Lmao

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that nijisisters now support people like >>52060379 just because they're "based" for being a zaion anti and Kyo fan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52060405
>I'm not gonna read the doc but I'm gonna make shit up to argue as if I did

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>>52060382
This is how an effective corp does it, when caught out, apologize, blame it on a indeterminate difficulty the public cannot scrutinize, and then sweeten the deal so it looks like you are sorry and want to make it up. Public relations solved

[Anonymous No.]

>>52060469
Nijinigger lmao
try rereading

[Anonymous No.]

>>52060554
An expert black company with unpaid 4chan interns to boot

[Anonymous No.]

>>52060549
I read it once. No real reason to go through it again to win an argument on the internet. She did lie about only liking one twitter comment and claimed she immediately removed that like when she found out.
That being said a week+ before her termination was announced she was on the sayu YouTube account liking comments that were shitting on her company. And again,you can criticize the company for firing someone over that but when you lie about something as small as that the chances of you being completely honest throughout the rest of the document are immediately called into question.

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>>52060549
>let's believe the revisionism doc
rumao

[Anonymous No.]

>>52047660
Once you go black, you never go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>52060801
>let's believe the company that makes your oshis lie to you about their breaks and vacations
rumao

[Anonymous No.]

>>52060790
So when the company lies we should just ignore it? Who's to say Niji didn't lie about any of the points on the list, or any of the previous announcements they've made in the past few years?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52060954
>argument coming from the same "trustworthy" source
rumao

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>>52060790
And thus when a corpo lies about suspensions being breaks the corpo likewise completely loses credibility.
Now what happens when a corpo without credibility does the incredibly idiotic thing and hammer down actual infractions the person who was fired can then identify to the public as ammunition for drama?

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>>52047660
Did Coco or Rushia ever complained about loosing their Steam accounts after leaving Hololive?

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>>52061012
Because even she didn't claim that the points on the list were fabricated in any sort of manner. She claimed that the points may have been exceedingly harsh for the actions she did and went out of her way to attempt to justify the behavior behind some of the points listed in her termination but some of her justifications were misleading at best with the liking of comments made by antis being the most obvious and easy to call out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52060790
>Nijitroons are taking to criticizing her actions on her PL account that has nothing to do with Niji.
Amazing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52061209
>nothing to do with Niji.
>she did it while still under contract

[Anonymous No.]

>>52061180
Yes, because Sayu is smart enough to not complain about being fired.
She is smart enough to go, yeah I was fired for retarded shit that is true, here is the infraction they pointed out and here is what I did

[Anonymous No.]

>>52061128
Sure you can argue that lying about suspensions is wrong and I'll fully agree but on the same hand sayu herself didn't deny any of the claims made against her, as I stated above. She attempted to justify them saying
>Well it may be true but it's not what you think because x and y

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>>52061315
Sure, I won't disagree with that but on the same page again you do have the fact that she never claims that the charges against her are false and she does immediately lie about at least one of her justifications. Claiming that it was a one time accident when it was a repeated incident

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>>52061180
>>52061347
Point 11 is the only one she actually tried to refute it with "This is inaccurate in some capacity" and it's a verifiable lie. The meme she liked on twitter had nothing to do with shitting on her branch mates or the company.

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>>52061305
That's when you know her termination was already set in stone, why else would she do it?
At that point there's no reason to hold back

[Anonymous No.]

>>52060790
this
both niji management is retarded and sayu as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>52061347
Great, now imagine if you would Niji was smart and did this
"We regret to inform our nijiniggers that Sayu has been terminated from our niji lineup due to creative differences and managerial conflicts that could not be bridged. We wish her the best in her future endeavors and would like to at least say to our loyal nijiniggers to not harass her for her decision, we know you will still do so but by simply saying this we wipe out hands clean, go at her. She will be missed by her coworkers who remember fun happy good times at nijifamily"
Now you instead have drama and everyone laughing at niji and giving credibility to Sayu because nijis have none

[Anonymous No.]

Sisters. It's time to go on the offensive.
https://twitter.com/SayuOkami/status/1672741141777899520

[Anonymous No.]

>>52061513
Again though it was more than just a meme on Twitter. When you go onto your old account while you're still under contract and start liking comments about how bad your coworkers are and the company you're contracted under is, of course there's going to be some repercussions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52061526
It happened a week before her termination. You can't prove it didn't happen while she was still under contract. Why else would they list it? She tried to misdirect to some other shit that had nothing to do with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52061714
The likes were given on youtube, not twitter. She was using her PL youtube account.

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>>52061623
Sayus credibility is lackluster at best when you take a look at the fact that she was willing to lie about something as easily disprovable as the liking of comments attacking your coworkers. This is not rocket science.

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>>52061834
Meant to quote: >>52061656

[Anonymous No.]

>>52061526
>That's when you know her termination was already set in stone, why else would she do it?
and ?

[Anonymous No.]

I didnt read this thread but you should know sayu has her dms open and is ok with dick pics and tributes.
Send her something nice to cheer her up

[Anonymous No.]

>>52061834
Yes but again anon, she was still under contract. Do you think you can just do whatever you want once you sign up with a corporation so long as it doesn't involve your main account? She doesn't even talk about how she was giving likes to anti comments on YouTube in the document and doesnt specify when she was officially terminated. Why do you think that is anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52061859
Come back after you remove your rainbow tinted glasses, intern

[Anonymous No.]

>>52061526
>I'm PROBABLY going to get terminated, so I'm going to make sure it happens already
>*gets terminated and the company goes scorched earth on her because of it and then lies about not doing it*
Based Sayu. What an honest person. And if this happened after she was ALREADY terminated then she would have no reason to lie about it, she would've just said "yeah I did that but the contract was already over so they have no right to list it as a point"

[Anonymous No.]

>>52062160
I couldn't care less about Niji or Sayu. But I'm not gullible enough to believe that someone who is willing to lie about something that can easily be disproved. I've dealt with enough menhera women in my life, they're never in the wrong and even when they are they're right because of one reason or the other.
Anycolor may be black but sayu is dishonest at best

[Anonymous No.]

>>52062056
Your myopia is betraying your bias, just admit you are a Sayu anti already

[Anonymous No.]

>>52062397
Then why are you here shitting up the thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52062431
Not so much an anti just more interested in pointing out that there's at least one incident in her documents where her justifications are easily disproved. The only excuse you can give is
>Well maybe she wasn't contracted at the time cuz she was already terminated!
but why not bring that up then in the document? Add a footnote saying that you were already terminated when those comments were being liked? Why leave out that part at all?
>>52062499
I didn't realize pointing out that there's at least one large incident of her lying is "shitting up the thread"

[Anonymous No.]

why are you 2020niggers like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>52062632
So you're an intern, got it

[Anonymous No.]

>>52055819
The brand tribalism is real on them.
>>52056402
For being so fuckin culty and shitting on Coco and Rushia, they have surely have not followed them arround and harrased them or doxxed the shit out of them.
Nijisanji and their fans are massivly worse than whatever the fuck is cooking over in Cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52062948
Most intelligent anon