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I just find it really funny that they make a corpo specifically called "Idol", and it's much more like Nijisanji than anything. Don't even try and deny it, I watch both of them and they both act exactly the same. They even both have rainbows in their logos. It's almost as if there's a concerted effort to say "You like idols, huh? FUCK YOU!"
The only difference is the lack of men in Idol, and I'm not even sure about that. Besides, the collab barrier is already down. I wonder how many people came here expecting a rebound from Hololive and it's just like "nope."

>> No.51520390

there is no such thing as a western idol

>> No.51521572

>>51520120
>read blog
Many of you may wonder why we chose the name "idol" for our VTuber agency. Some may have thought it was satire, while others assumed we would follow the strict rules associated with traditional idol culture. However, we see "idol" in a different light, one that represents performers who break through the barriers of entertainment and become true role models that people can look up to.

We admire the discipline, dedication, and hard work that traditional idols exhibit, as well as their strong connection with their fans. Our goal is to take that inspiration and apply it to our talents, while providing them with the freedom to become the entertainers they aspire to be and at their own pace.

>> No.51522252

>>51521572
Imagine believing this load of bullshit that Aviel wrote so that he can pocket some more investor money

>> No.51522428

>>51522252
>I-its a lie, because it is o-ok?
rent free

>> No.51522540

>>51520120
I think they mean Idol in the biblical sense.

>> No.51522566

>>51521572
Lol that is him admitting it is a total grift.

>> No.51522584

Not interesting enough to make bait threads but Im bumping so im not the only one annoyed of what could've been a towa or orange hate post

>> No.51522595

>>51520120
>Uwah...
>I...I...
>I...
>I DON'T WANT TO WATCH STREAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>WAHHH!!!
>DON'T MAKE ME WATCH STREAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.51522700

>>51521572
So they're actually self-aware of how ironic the name is. I respect that.

>> No.51522745

>>51521572
Rin is my idol. My life is in shambles.

>> No.51523104

>>51522252
>Idol corp is a Jewish company so is bad
Do chuds really?

>> No.51523412

>>51520120
Don't see the issue. Remember, vtuber watching losers are meant to be cynically farmed. You're actually the one overstepping boundaries by thinking that you need to be treated with any sort of seriousness or sincerity. Just saying what everyone is thinking.

>> No.51523685

>>51520120
those new debuts really made you pucker your anus, didn't it

>> No.51525348

>>51520390
selamat pagi!

>> No.51525637

Nice. Idol inclining when we get our OWN schizo threads in catalog.

>> No.51525844

Love it when something fresh threatens to break the hegemony and panic ensues
Time to watch even more idol

>> No.51528113

>>51520120
>Niji
Will name streams "girls girls girls girls" and then add a male
>Idol
Won't name streams "girls girls girls girls" and then add a male

Conclusion: Idol is better. Thread over don't bother replying

>> No.51531880

>>51520120
Give it a rest Lumi. You lost. Menace and Chapipi have a higher ccv than you now.

>> No.51532126

>>51520120
I don't even watch much of Idol but I can tell you you comparing them to Niji in any way is the saddest attempt at trolling I've seen lately.

>> No.51532212

They actually stream so they are automatically better than hololive en by default

>> No.51532528
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51532528

>>51520120
Kind of feel bad for this corpo's CEO desu, imagine making the first corpo consisting of chuubas from your native country, only for it to fail completely.

Im honestly convinced that if EN never came out, idol as a company would have retired by last christmas.

>> No.51532842

Invest in kawaii bros. They have an upcoming 3d concert too

>> No.51533093

>>51532842
ew

>> No.51533266

The bible says not to worship idols.

>> No.51533292

>>51532842
kawaii is either cursed or who ever hires the talents is very bad at their job. They have had some many people just randomly quit or fuck them over and then get fired.

>> No.51533504

>>51533266
That's why everyone reads manga.

>> No.51533865

>>51532528
With that said, Nikki is very cute.

>> No.51535112

>>51520120
Idol doesn't have any male streamers. They can't make yaoibait or BFE content, not to mention hetero ships are also out of the question.

>> No.51535119

>>51521572
Seems solid to me

>> No.51536525

>>51522252
Cover has similar copotalk in their about, they are all the same

>> No.51537153

>>51522566
all vtubing is a grift. get over it, and have fun watching the talents.

>> No.51537855

>>51525348
I do find it interesting that Indonesian posters are overly concerned with "idol purity" considering Indonesian VTubers have consistently been some of the least "idol like" I have seen. They wouldn't behave like that if there wasn't a demand for it. So is it just that the Indonesians posting here are contrarians?

>> No.51538441
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51538441

I will now watch your corpo

>> No.51538678

>>51522540
Same. I believe Aviel is the prophesied Zohan and is training "idols" to serve Molech.

>> No.51538799

>>51532528
Katta and Nikki are great idols. Trust the Redebut. Trust the Plan.

>> No.51538876

Idol really has made it, wow. Good for them.

>> No.51539363

>>51537855
>he fell for the flip falseflagger

>> No.51539788

>jews are involved
>still didn't see the subversion coming
ngmi

>> No.51539869

>>51520120
thanks for the ad

>> No.51541358

>>51538799
I hoping that they don’t get the PhaseJP treatment. Idols community has grown so much larger since the IdolHE that adding a new gen might actually salvage them at this point

>> No.51541406

>>51520120
Did (You) also know that North Korea isn't actually a democracy?

>> No.51542095

>>51520120
Nijisanji probably wishes some of its talents were on par with IdolEN at this point. They're already at a point where they're close in viewership despite the massive sub gap, sometimes not even that as shown with Yuko and especially Rin. If the fans of CGDCT arent already running back to Hololive, their probably taking their money and bailing to support other corpos or even indies, so sisters will have to also pick up the slack supporting their male oshis and female talents.

>> No.51543000

>>51539363
The what now?

>> No.51543044

>>51541358
Israel does not have that big of a weeb community. Also remember that most of idol HE's haters are kikes themselves. Hell, even the fans hate the other girls who is not their oshi.

>> No.51546483

Heh.

>> No.51546646

>>51531880
>Higher CCV
>Literally one stream sample size

>> No.51546767

>>51537855
Aren't indogs cucks who doesn't mind their girls collabing with male? It's pagpag eater and other SEAniggers who are parroting idol purity shit

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51547317

>>51537855
>>51546767
>he fell for the "S-S-SEAnogs le bad!!1!" meme
Even the lowest fans (in terms of behavior) in the ID fandom (which resides on Facebook) despise idol culture. Even better, a considerable number of people like it when a male fleshtuber supposedly tries to "hit" on Zeta and other female VTubers. Though, Zeta maintains a distance from him. Not so much for Kobo.

Idol culture is inherently a Japanese thing, at least in my view. Something in their society enables idol culture to flourish as outsiders know.

>> No.51548285

>>51541406
Comparing Idol to North Korea isn't the win you think it is.

>> No.51548424

>>51532528
I'm happy for the guy that he actually managed to find success. I thought the Israeli girls were cute but I could tell they weren't doing well and figured this was going to be one of those many small corpos that quickly failed and vanished, like Cyberlive.
The fact that he was able to pivot and turn that same corpo into one of the biggest EN branches in the industry, legitimately rivaling the top dogs, is seriously impressive. I expected EN to flop just as hard but he made it work. Getting into IdolEN is now any female VTuber's ultimate goal.

>> No.51548565

>>51525348
go back to facebook please

>> No.51548653
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51548653

>>51542095
Not a single member of IdolEN will ever reach Selen's CCVs.

>> No.51548702

>>51548653
They only need to beat Finana.

>> No.51548736

>>51520120
ok enna, i know you guys feel threaten, just let it go

>> No.51548871

>>51548653
2%

>> No.51549170

>>51520120
Just give them time. Being an idol has nothing to do with the content the members produce as shown by Hololive. You can swear, drink, act vulgar, lie to your viewers, or have fun with males both on and off-stream, but once you get your 3D and sing and dance a bit on stage you're an idol.
Idol will get there eventually.

>> No.51549203

>>51549170
Bae's Genital Jousting streaming sure proved that.

>> No.51550956

>>51549203
Is this supposed to counter what he said?

>> No.51550983

>>51550956
No. Why?

>> No.51551034

>>51538678
>He knows about the Jewish connection to Molech
Based. Not many people know about it. Rocked my shit when I found out what the star of Renphan was and why kikes in America are staunch defenders of planned parenthood.

>> No.51551086

>>51550983
It came off as very smug and condescending, which is a weird tone to take when you're agreeing with someone.

>> No.51551245

>>51548736
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub-WAyBIBXI
Here ya go buddy. Whoops, there goes your tribal narrative.

>> No.51551809

Idol Corp
>no males
Holopro
>has males

>> No.51552042

>>51551086
No, I agree with the anon. HoloLive talents are not idol unless they are singing on stage. Whatever they do in their streams is irrelevant. Remember, idol girls played Genital Jousting before Bae made it a thing.

>> No.51552322

>>51548424
>success
Can you call it success when it's not profitable?

>> No.51552332

>>51523104
>Idol corp is a Jewish company so is bad
Yes
go back to memeflaggotry on /pol/ you rancidkike

>> No.51552402

>idol has made it
nice offkai booth jewkeks

>> No.51552613
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51552613

>>51552402
is this real?

>> No.51552616

>>51552042
trad jp fleshidols also do non-relevant things, like appearing in talk shows, tv series, or doing behind the scenes vlogs... it's just that in holo, the ratio is flipped.

>> No.51552665

>>51552613
looks tragic, but they sent Riro too soon imo

>> No.51553936

It's kind of crazy how collabing with males is literally the only thing that matters to /vt/. It was never about purity. No matter how deranged or insane they get, they could say they kill and eat live babies on stream and /vt/ wouldn't give a fuck, but say hi to Roberu? You are dead to /vt/ forever.

>> No.51555363

>>51520120
not really

>> No.51555572

>>51548285
The only comparison I'm making is between OP and retards.

>> No.51555726

>>51521572
This is unironically what holojp did except they don't brag about it

>> No.51555867

>>51542095
>Close in viewership
I mean nijien has some 3views now but there baseline is still above 2k which idol is still very far from.

>> No.51557068

Can someone explain to me why so many of these new corpo vtubers are from the Philippines or SEA in general but they pretend they don't speak that language in their debuts and only write that they speak English and maybe Japanese etc?
Do they hate Filipinos that much?
>To be transparent I'm a white European.

>> No.51557200

>>51557068
They probably don't hate filipinos, but the fact is that they are poor and getting SEA fanbase is worthless.

>> No.51557313

>>51520120
yeah I would prefer it if idolEN was more idol-like
but I've lost all hope in western women, they are worthless whores and can't even pretend otherwise if you pay them for it

>> No.51559179

>>51548653
The funny thing is that they’re already on their way. Selen pretty much made APEX her identity after talking about the pitfalls of making one game your identity so some viewers have left. Rin playing a shovelware Wii game for an hour gets almost as much as Selen playing new releases like Jedi Survivor, especially when looking at VOD counts.

>> No.51559384

>>51520120
>Jew corpo
>explicitly trying to subvert established cultural norms and standard for no reason
What did you expect exactly?

>> No.51559841

>>51557200
Would they flock to the stream if just the language is mentioned offhandedly in the debut stream?

>> No.51559975

>>51557068
They're SEA westerners who did not grow up in SEA

>> No.51560432

>david start inside their logo
They just can't help themselves, huh

>> No.51561061

>>51520120
Yes, you're right. So?
They still mog any other small corpo, just like how nijien mogs holoen

>> No.51561207

>>51521572
>become true role models that people can look up to.
KEK

>> No.51562762

You don't even know what an idol is, you giga newfag.
Your only exposure to idols is fucking Hololive, and that's just sad.
Worse, it's not even Hololive, it's Hololive via clips, that's even sadder.
Don't even pretend, you dumb cunt.
>>51521572
It's funny seeing the responses to this.
Stupid fucks have never seen the shit alt idols get up to. (which includes Hololive, which makes it infinitely funnier)

>> No.51563060

>>51562762
Hololive isn't idol

>> No.51564539

>>51520390
SIKE
https://youtu.be/bitH6NZ_e2Q

>> No.51564773

>>51520120
why are pippigers like this?
you guys are really that mad that Idol got EN gold first?

>> No.51565289

>>51564773
what the fuck is "en gold"

>> No.51565363

>>51565289
the /#/trannies award the top stream of the day gay medal tallies so they can shitpost about them.
guy basically outed himself as a catalog shitter trying to create forced rivalries between corpos

>> No.51565542

>>51565363
???? But top stream can be random as fuck depending on if a girl decides to collorate inflating their view or something like outfits happen. If its something they place real weight in the numberfags are actually mentally ill i hope to god its just for fun

>> No.51565712

>>51565363
>guy basically outed himself as a catalog shitter trying to create forced rivalries between corpos
not really
its well know that pippggers have been doxposting about Idol since EN 1 debuts
the rest of phase is great though

>> No.51566476

>>51521572
>takes something with established meaning and expectation
>uses it anyway and flips it to their own meaning
shameless

>> No.51568959

>>51566476
If anything, jews invented the idols (bible days). Japan change it meaning.

>> No.51572266

>>51520390
Someone like Britney Spears and other female pop stars are the "closest"

>> No.51573542

>>51568959
wow, what a practical way to look at things
yeah, people who enter the vtuber fandom and have familiarity with JP idol culture totally think about that and won't be confused at all from a difference in understanding
as expected from the brainlets that are /vt/ards

>> No.51574887

>>51548424
Cyberlive's failings were completely different. Since the CEO only wanted to please his 17 year old girlfriend Misaki and give her something to powertrip with, they were never going to go anywhere.

>> No.51578183

>>51568959
now THATS retarded

Please notice my akasupa jesuskun

>> No.51581554

>>51552322
But it is though?

>> No.51581842

>>51560432
>Israeli company has the Israeli flag in their logo
Wow, what a shocker. Would you complain if an American company had the American flag in its logo? Somehow, I doubt it.

>> No.51582539

>>51578183
It's true though. The Bible did talk about idols.
https://www.openbible.info/topics/idols
We're talking Old Testament, also known as the Hebrew Bible.

>> No.51582569

>>51520120
Don't care, their talents are cute and funny

>> No.51582616

>>51552616
Japanese idols can appear in talk shows where they interact with the male hosts and nobody gives a fuck. I don't know where this unicorn shit came from for VTubers.

>> No.51582834

>>51582539
It is an entirely different meaning in exodus than what we are discussing here.

>> No.51584377

>>51582834
I don't think so. This is one of those semantic things where people will say "No you don't get it, I didn't SAY I'm worshipping them" even though the way they treat these idols is identical to worship. The behavior is the exact same. For those who actually care about what the Bible says, they are going directly against the Bible.

>> No.51588871

>>51553936
This is what happens when third worlders take a joke from /hlgg/ back in October 2020 seriously and project it all these years later.

>> No.51589862

>>51588871
I blame it all on Love Live. That anime ruined idols forever.

>> No.51590042

>>51520390
Have you ever watched American Idol?

>> No.51591819

Nobody likes idols. It's the most toxic profession that isn't healthy for anyone involved. Just be a streamer, have a good time and ban all coomers so that you don't get killed in the streets for wanting to start a family before you're 35.

>> No.51592273

>>51531880
Which one is Menace?

>> No.51595777

>>51592273
Heh.

>> No.51601680

>>51520120
cool

>> No.51609899

>>51584377
I'm not worshipping them. And neither are most people. It's not the same. Otherwise, every streamer, and every entertainer and every famous person can be categorised as such and at that point who cares? Its clearly lost all meaning.

If anyone here gives a shit what the bible says then god help them.

>> No.51611316

>>51520120
I also find it hilarious that it’s run by Jews yet this board loves them

>> No.51613272

>>51609899
Well you seem sane so I'm not sure why you're arguing about whether or not it's the same because what the Bible says on idols does not even remotely matter. Mind you, anyone who claims to be Christian and watches idols should be ashamed, but anyone who claims to be Christian and posts here is a hypocrite with a very selective devotion to his religion and so he is a complete lost cause that is not worth wasting any effort on. There are unfortunately a lot of those, because religion in general raises people to be hypocrites.

>> No.51613334

>>51611316
We get drive-by /pol/tards in the general every so often but they always get ignored. /pol/ doesn't have as much sway on 4chan as they think.

>> No.51614034

>>51613272
I'm gnostic so that doesn't affect me. Spread the good news.

>> No.51614187

>>51521572
>that people can look up to.
Whoa there, they're just chuubas and not even good ones. I can't understand the sheer fakeness like this, obviously most are a mess and not the most admirable people.

>> No.51614222

why do people who have literally never consumed a single second of actual real japanese idol content act so concerned about it?

>> No.51614278

>>51614222
AKB48, im@s, love live all silly as fuck

>> No.51614322

>>51614278
nomizaka46. did cibo matto count as idol? puffy ami yumi?

>> No.51614426

>>51520390
Western idols are allowed to be whores.
Only japanese idols are supposed to be maidens

>> No.51615150

>>51562762
Stop trying to astroturf you faggot ass homobeggar. YOU don't know what an idol is.

>> No.51615151

>>51614278
>"actual real japanese idol content"
>lists a bunch of anime
Are you serious?

>> No.51615257

>>51572266
>>51614426
half the appeal of people like taylor swift or britney spears in the western hemisphere (and to an extent, celebrities in general) is keeping up to date with who's fucking who, the exact opposite of what's considered normal in japan (i mean, they have paparazzi and tabloids there as well, but they are treated with even more disdain than they are in the us or uk)

>> No.51615346

>>51615257
Taylor Swift unironically makes really good music. She's like the Calliope Mori of America.

>> No.51617098

>>51615150
Oh look, a newfag that thinks Hololive are idols
lmao
By the way, Idols of the opposite sex interact ALL THE FUCKING TIME on TV.
Go back to your shitty anime threads about Love Live and other trash.

>> No.51617136

>>51615151
Yes, yes they are. They actually think that shit is idolshit. This is how embarrassing they are. Actual retards in every sense of the word.
If I could find the image again i would repost it of people ditching and avoiding Love Live fans on dating sites because of how insufferable they are.

>> No.51617600

>>51557068
t. Nig

>> No.51617753

>>51617136
LOL need to see it

>> No.51620280

>>51520120
Is it though?

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51620376

>>51520120
>The only difference is the lack of men in Idol, and I'm not even sure about that

>> No.51620702

>>51620376
https://www.wired.com/2011/06/nintendo-no-plans-to-publish-xenoblade-last-story-in-u-s/

>> No.51623534

>>51520390
I see

>> No.51626435

>>51623534
Said the blind man

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