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>You're an up and coming Vtuber
>You've just been scouted by these agencies
>You've met each of their CEOs in person
Which way do you go ?

>> No.51423115

>>51423103
From left to right
Niji Sanji, Idol, Phase, Holo, Vshoujo

>> No.51423163

>>51423103
Why is Yagoo so sad compared to the others?

>> No.51423164

>>51423103
you forgot Mythic with Assmonbald

>> No.51423185

>>51423163
He carries the weight of the entire industry on his shoulders.

>> No.51423191

I would go into hololive so that even if I don't stream for weeks I can still collect my checks.

>> No.51423203

>>51423164
They're a talent agency not really a vtuber agency tho

>> No.51423222
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51423222

>>51423163
It's lonely at the top

>> No.51423236
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>>51423103
1st choice - Hololive
2nd choice - Mossadcorp
34d choice - Fishman
4th choice - Vshitjo
5th choice - Suicide
6th choice - Nijisanji

Anyone claiming otherwise is dishonest.

>> No.51423253

>>51423163
holoEN is a sinking ship

>> No.51423280

>>51423103
>asking this on what's basically hololive's reddit colony

>> No.51423308

>>51423280
>>51423253
Holoboard
Holothread
Seethe about it

>> No.51423314

>>51423222
Trips of truth
>>51423236
Based ranking

>> No.51423342

Either vshojo or hololive. One offers ownership of your already growing IP and some support in activities and the other offers free success, because blue dorito. Dunno about idol and phase. Would not join niji. Management seems kinda more retarded than hololive and the fans seem even more rabid as well. With hololive the ratio of schizos to non-schizos seems a lot smaller. I compare holo to niji because that's the most common comp.

>> No.51423364

>>51423236
this

>> No.51423367

Hello Sirs, why so much hate for Niji Sanji. Tell me why you wont join, they are number 2.

>> No.51423373

>>51423103
I don't like any of them, but assuming I had magically turned into a cute girl, the gold digging nature of a woman would force me to pick Hololive.

>> No.51423378

>>51423103
How would you not pick hololive the paycheck alone is enough to get anyone hooked let alone the brand name

>> No.51423394

>>51423103
hmmm why do so many EN vtubers stay indie

>> No.51423409

>>51423367
You know what else has the number 2? Their cut to the talents. 2%

>> No.51423434

>>51423103
1. Phase connect
The talent is going to fuck me for drama
2. Idolcorp
I am going to fuck the talent for drama
3. Cover
I will stay in my lane as a Homostar
4. Vshoujo
I will keep my mouth shut when there is drama
5. Nijisanji
2% is not worth it

>> No.51423449

>>51423163
You’re not auditioning for hololive, but holostars.

>> No.51423461

You're all forgetting if you join Holo makes you sing and dance at least twice a year. Are you willing to do that just for a chance to sniff the seat cushion filled with your oshi's loin juices?

>> No.51423489

>>51423236
Pretty much.

>> No.51423531

>>51423236
I am not a girl so my ranking is
1st choice - Holostars
2nd choice - Mossadcorp
3d choice - Nijisanji 1% is still good in manjisanji
4th choice - vShitjo
5th choice - Fishman I might be a nepohire in this agency KEK

>> No.51423620

>>51423367
China also is the second biggest economy in the world, yet your people still commit human rights violations against their own left and right. Seems logical that Niji isn't all that great when pandering to such a "people".

>> No.51423630

>>51423253
Lemme guess, because of Tempus? Come on, I know you're itching to say it lol

>> No.51423858

I KNOW YOU ARE HERE RIKU
GRADUATE SELEN

>> No.51423860
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>>51423630
>still claiming Tempus are responsible for Gura not streaming after almost a year

>> No.51423880

>>51423103
Also who's the most successful from their starting position?

>> No.51424033

>>51423103
>sakana clearly taking more space than the others
>also using a meme that most often depicts yagoo
>meanwhile chooses the yagoo sad pic instead of any relevant ones like the other corp CEOs
I'm not saying you have an agenda, but next time make it less obvious

>> No.51424075

>>51424033
Oh no Fishman will deduct my pay it's over.

>> No.51424099

>>51423236
That seems about right, well done.

>> No.51424162

>>51423103
>>51423236
I'm not sold on jewcorp. Until Vei and Silver left we knew jack shit about vshitshow contracts, and niji's been around for forever and we just recently confirmed the dire state of management. Anyone getting too high on Idol right now is suffering from recency bias.

>> No.51424209

>>51423236
Holo/Mossad are both first place, you choose one depending on how much you are willing to sacrifice for more money and visibility. Suicide should be one place higher.

>> No.51424240

>>51424162
Talents in Idol are very open about basically everything that happens in the company, down to exactly what projects were vetoed by management and why.

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>>51423236
Based haglover.

>> No.51424344

>>51423103
Anyone not saying Hololive or Vshojo as 1st and 2nd are lying to themselves. Hololive gives you instant success and vshojo lets you keep your IP and instant clout.

>> No.51424347

>>51424162
I don't trust idol because they keep parading how good EN has it while ignoring the mismanagement of their Hebrew branch. You don't see them tweeting about those girls.

>> No.51424378

>>51424347
That hebrew branch was destined to fail. They basically did a 100% Uturn knowing that they couldn't manage it like they did. It should be admirable that they decided to keep with the company rather than start from ground zero.

>> No.51424613

>>51423103
That doesn't look like the vshojo guy on the right

>> No.51424642

>>51424378
If they really are as good as they claim they are, let's see if they can revive that dead gen with that "redebut" BS. I doubt people would care about a two-person gen.

>> No.51424657

>>51423163
Pekora bought a fucking monkey

>> No.51424694

I'll meet my homie in the synagogue.

>> No.51424696

>>51424347
Who is "they"? Aviel tweets about Origin too.

>> No.51424701
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>>51423103
Who the fuck is the guy on the right?

>> No.51424759

>>51424613
>>51424701
What? All flipniggers look the same anyway.

>> No.51424770

>>51423103
Assuming I know nothing about corpos the first two look like sexual predators. Fishman is an unknown then we have a regular looking guy and a dumb ass looking zoom-zoom.
I'll take the fishman or the regular guy

>> No.51424815

>>51423103
Hololive, of course. I can be a lazy fuck and success is guaranteed.

>> No.51424859

>>51424815
Why does everyone think that Hololive is lazy? Gura is lazy, but all the other talents put in so much effort. They have to do a lot of training, do design work and much more

>> No.51425412

>>51424696
Origin who? I only know idol HE.

>> No.51425841

>>51423115
that's not vshojo. that's the guy who baits with holo stuff for views. i didn't know he was on 4ch also.

>> No.51426164

>>51423103
You literally only have Stars and Nijisanji as options as a male.
No I will not larp as a female to answer your question and Stars are basically second-hand citizens, so answer is Niji first and Stars second.

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>>51423103

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>>51424657
>Pekora bought a fucking monkey
LMAO

>> No.51426392

>>51424859
Like Sana?

>> No.51426488

>>51423236
BASED BASED BASED GODCHAMA.

>> No.51426574

>>51424859
>They have to do a lot
No they don't. They're not required to do anything other than streaming.

>> No.51426646

>>51423461
>Holo makes you sing and dance at least twice a year
nigga that's the main appeal i wanna be a pretty singing anime boy on the big stage while my cult-legion of yumejos chants my name like they're summoning yaldabaoth himself

>> No.51426663

>>51426306
who

>> No.51426702

>>51426574
>learn to dance
>learn to sing
>Voice act for collabs
>apply for permissions
>monitor their feed
>Meetings with their managers
>create collab ideas and stream ideas

There's a lot more anon

>> No.51426715

>>51426574
Or be a merchandizable mascot. Gura sure is a lucky bitch, isn't she?

>> No.51426744

>>51426715
Chumbuds are back broken

>> No.51426963

Why is the 2% thing such an issue again? It's free money for literally doing nothing apart from a retweet to the merch sale. Apparently the nijis earn more elsewhere which is why their talents are able to pay off student loans/fly to a different country every month/eat caviar/buy land and houses.

>> No.51427019

>>51423163
OP choose that picture, so I don't know

>> No.51427037

>>51423103
>holo
>idol
>phase
>vshojo
>niji

>> No.51427104

>>51423253
yeah, a cruiser sinking in a puddle

>> No.51427459

>>51426702
>Meetings with their managers
I'll give you that, but that doesn't take much effort. All the other shit you mentioned is optional. They can do all those things if they want to, but it isn't forced on them.
>>51426715
Even Gura streamed regularly in the beginning. Now she can take breaks all she wants and Cover can't do anything about it.

>> No.51427685

>>51424642
Those two women have too thick accents to make it anywhere with English and there seems to be little to no market for Hebrew speaking chuubas. They're doomed.

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>>51426663
He owns Mythic Talent, it's a talent agency that many of the Twitch indies are a part of. They offered a better contract than Vshojo which is why vei, nyanners, and silvervale left. Shylily, filian, and a bunch of other chuubas are also signed with them.

>> No.51427818

>>51424759
I assure you, they dont.

t. Flip

Code: phax8
lol

>> No.51427860

>>51426646
>spoiler

Had me a laugh there. I admire your aspirations.

>> No.51427927

>>51423103
The rightmost three are the only good answers.

>> No.51428078

>>51427459
Gura reached the peak of VTubing, which means she is profitable enough to not stream anymore. I wonder if she is enjoying her success, or if she feels pressured by it. People usually work hard to get to the top, but her success is due being in the right place at the right time. No hate towards Gura. I just watch VTubers who are more entertaining than her.

>> No.51428431

>>51424347
They have a Hebrew branch? Are they nigger shitters then en? I mean it's probably yes but how shitter?

>> No.51428442

>>51427816
Yes but he's not a sole vutber company so disregarded

>> No.51428494

>>51423163
He's being extorted by Pekora behind the scenes. Do you reps

>> No.51428518

>>51426574
Lmao no streming is something they have to do the bare minimum of there is a lot more backlog stuff, unless you are gura who can sowan money without streming every member has to delever something to get money holo isn't going to pay you if you don't bring any money.

>> No.51429452

>>51427816
Which of these brands have sponsored the ex-vshojo girls so far?

>> No.51429557

>>51428518
They become profitable as soon as they get monetized, retard. Streaming is more than enough for Cover to keep you around and they're not going to force you to do anything you have no interest in doing. All the extra work they do is because they WANT to do it, not because they have to.

>> No.51429861

>>51429557
not really true, you can throw in some figures to see that it's not that clear via profit. Without being a number fag, there is a lot of money going between platforms, users, company profits and artists.

>> No.51429875

>>51429557
where is your proof anon?

>> No.51429888

>>51424347
Funny you say that, their next move is to give these founder members another chance by having them redebut with upgraded models and probably another ad campaign

>> No.51429942

>>51424770
Fishman hides his face because he's a chink, you've played yourself

>> No.51430109

>>51423103
First am I a boy or a girl?
Second. Am I a Japanese, Seanig or Westernoid?

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51430121

>>51424033
>uses a photo of a person not even remotely related to vshojo instead of the actual ceo
Here's the actual CEO

>> No.51430250

>>51430109
>Easy
Japanese Girl who can speak English
>hard
SEANIG Boy

>> No.51430326

>>51423103
>Japanese Retard
>Jew
>Chink
>Japanese Saviourfag
>Flip
Not even a choice, get into holo and no matter how bad you do you have a stable income + job security forever

>> No.51430334

Why would you pick hololive if ur male? Thats just career suicide

>> No.51430461

>>51429452
None yet, but Nyan and Silver are gonna get a FF16 sponsor (that Mouse is also getting). VShojo has gotten sponsors from multiple companies on that list

>> No.51430742

>>51430250
>Easy.
Nijisanji. So I can form a gang with Utako raping Shota like Masaru or femboy like Mashiro. Also they have huge permission database for a legit corpo.
>hard
.....Nijisanji En I guess.

>> No.51430987

>>51429861
The money Cover puts into making new generations is peanuts compared to the profits each previous gen brings in.
Hololive would've never taken off if streaming wasn't enough to cover their expenses, and most smaller corpos would've died out a long time ago if that was true.
>>51429875
The original argument was that they don't bring in enough money with just streaming alone. Why aren't you asking for proof of that?

>> No.51431039
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51431039

If girl
holo > idol > phase > vshojo > (rest of small corpos here) > nijisanji

if dude
nijisanji > holo > (any small corpo dumb enough to hire males)

>> No.51431166

>>51430334
Because holo is safest choice among these.
Niji is at a point of diminishing returns with talents cannibalizing each others numbers + 2% merch cut.
Idol and Phase girls are usually 3 views so debuting there as a male has a good chance of falling down to 2 view status.
Vshojo could be good since their fans don't mind males, but vshojo is nepo hires only so getting in is unlikely,
You could go indie if you strike it big then it's the best option, but the chance of that is very low.
Holo is the best choice because even if you go down to low 3 view status the salary and merch cut is still good. Also Yagoo will never fire or ignore you so that's a plus.

>> No.51431678

>>51423163
he knows what he brought on to the world.

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>>51423103
>not just passed the auditions, but actually scouted
>by all of these companies
I must be some properly hot shit, and that affects my motivations. If I was just some mediocre woman with a cutesy voice, obviously I'd go Hololive. Instant big subs, 5view CCV, loadsamoney, all courtesy of the company. Channel, audience and income all grow passively even if I took weeks-long breaks from streaming. Easy life.

In this case, however, to get scouted by all the biggest movers, I must be some of the brightest, most motivated indie talent in the industry. I'm tempted to say I'd prefer to just remain indie and reap the rewards of my own blood and sweat. That not being an option here, I'd probably want to join one of the smaller companies and put in the hours helping drag it into the limelight. Imagine how good it'd feel to join Nijisanji at their lowest point and start approaching and surpassing holomem numbers, knowing it's your skill and effort, not the company brand, at work. The quintessential idol success story, which you can't actually get at Hololive anymore.

>> No.51432314

>>51432250
wait isn't scouting just inviting you to the auditions with a tiny bit of extra caveats

>> No.51432423

NijiEN so I can groom rosemi. Nothing else is worth

>> No.51432614

>>51429452
Filian seems to get all the cool sponsors
she's sponsored by Gamestop and they'll be a sponsor for the vtuber awards

>> No.51432655

>>51432423
Be careful there Icarus. Some things are better left unknown

>> No.51432897

he's a retard and a faggot but even still I'd go with Yagoo

>> No.51433588

>>51426306
>Be rich
>Look like this
Why?

>> No.51434793

>>51426306
i think this guy repaired my laptop at best buy.

>> No.51434887

>>51423163
He’s got Bell’s palsy from his 7th covid vaccine.

>> No.51434911

>>51423163
we're all worried about haachama.

>> No.51435398

>>51434887
>Bell's palsy
Zoomer learned a new falseflag term from Twitter I see.

>> No.51435428

I remember that Phase Connect used to have quite a good reputation on /vt/. Most probably still does, but it seems they have garnered quite an amount of antis, for some reason. The complaints never made much sense to me.

Idolcorp seems to be the new favorite but perhaps it's just the honeymoon phase until they have their own legion of antis.

>> No.51435647

>>51435428
you've seen the money idol spend on the debut. their gift cards are next level. also, phase donothon connect.

>> No.51435677

>>51423103
Hololive so I can fuck my oshi just like the other Stars

>> No.51435869

>>51433588
>Be rich
>Don't care what others think
Why ?

>> No.51435906

>>51435428
The only reasons anons hate Phase are because of Pippa and Lumi. Cancerous girls with cancerous fans. The Rin numberfags are annoying but mostly harmless, but with that new gen? Time will tell.

>> No.51435944

I'm still mad Blue Frog is stuck in sony's maw.

>> No.51435956

>>51423236
yup. end thread

>> No.51435975

>>51435428
It's all cos of the Lumi drama and like anon >>51435906 said Rin fags are harmless they're all basically normies. For being such a normie she hasn't shit up her company which is surprising
Also someone tell me why Eien never had a honey moon phase that lasted long? It lasted for 2 weeks tops

>> No.51436174

>>51423103
The only one I know is Holo. I can assumed who the other people are. Anyway, I'd pick Holo because I know everyone on here would hate me before I even start, because I'm a man. My mission would be to collab with all of their oshis, making them cute-laugh a lot and after 7 months I would leak everything about the company, then graduate and flee to Mexico so they couldn't sue me.

>> No.51436263

>>51435975
They attracted the coomer fanbase. Riifu being terminated and Kiki's Donothon yab tarnished the corpo's potential. Good thing Kilia and Skye had lesser schizo fans. Maybe a new gen can redeem them.

>> No.51438020

>>51436263
>Kilia
Nobody tell him

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>>51423103
Sakana has a picture of himself.

>> No.51439176

>>51423163
Cuz Gura doesn't stream

>> No.51439715

>>51423434
unfathomably based

>> No.51439765

>>51423103
As a male there's no money for me in cover so I'd go to nijisanji and fuck over vox and hex and take all of their chink fujoshis.

>> No.51440168

>>51423103
None. I'm a dude. If I ever were to take the shitty eceleb path I'd just do my own thing.
Imagine having to hide behind a gay anime avatar and be forced to collab with faggy manchildren just to entertain 500 mentally ill sisters. I'd rather work as a wagie.

>> No.51440594

Yagoo lip isn't like that because of a stroke his lip deformed because of all the dick sucking he's been doing to Fagxel and Fagnis while wanking the other six which would also explain his weight loss.

>> No.51445255

>>51438020
The bar is incredibly low, but she most definitely has less schizo fans than Riifu and Kiki.

>> No.51445791

>>51432614
She deserves all the sponsors. I legit have never seen someone put so much effort willing to be cringe and fuckable for entertainment

>> No.51445892

>>51423103
Nijisanji easily

>> No.51446006

>>51423236
I like being dishonest. It makes me happy.

>> No.51446261

meh, i'd go for hololive if you got a singing voice, go to Niji if you have general streaming/ entertainment skills, Phase if your mental, Idol if you wanna try something new and engaging. Vshojo if your already well versed into twitch's asshole
Me personally id go to hololive, regardless of EN's state, they are given opportunity's and good exposure.

>> No.51446511

>>51423236
>Hololive is so good, it's why Sana quit and Gura is hiding
Mossad seems to have the happiest girls, but i'd sooner go with Mythic because at least they're so inept you could get away with cooked books for months then just leave

>> No.51446683

>>51440168
>take the shitty eceleb path I'd just do my own thing
There's a reason Shoto leeched so hard in t he early NijiEN days and why this is the first time you've heard his name this year

>> No.51446778

>>51423103
Whichever one fucked my ass the best

>> No.51446954

>>51446261
"Idol if you wanna try something new and engaging" seems like a coded message for "Enjoy your reserved hour of Yuko"

>> No.51447682

>>51423164
The only company where the owner is more menhera than the idols could ever be

>> No.51447922

>>51423103
>holo
Opportunity to learn singing, dancing, opportunity to net professional voice acting gigs, professional music deals, act in custom anime. Opportunity to grow as an entertainer and as a person; to make good money; acting like a decent human being is encouraged rather than mocked. If feeling like a lazy piece of shit, can go months without streaming and still be relevant.
>niji
Opportunity to collab with a variety of entertaining vtubers.
>idol, phase, vshojo
Opportunity to openly have a boyfriend without being judged for it. Opportunity to get groomed by several paypiggies at once, aka reverse harem. Chance to get stabbed in the back by my fellow genmates. Could make bank with a donothon and then just pick with which rewards I feel like delivering.
Yeah I think I'm sticking with Hololive.
>monkey paw
Join Hololive. Get thrown in the EN gulag. Still better than the alternative.

>> No.51448040

>>51424378
agreed. I wouldn't be surprised if the last two graduate just to do english reps and join EN4 or some shit.

>> No.51448126

>>51423103
Holo or Vshojo, everything else is irrelevant or slavery.

>> No.51448174

>>51446683
I mean I wouldn't even try to be a Vtuber. Just your normal Youtuber making videos about shit I like or trying to become an internet artist.
I don't see a single good thing about being a male Vtuber.

>> No.51448376

>>51423103
What the fuck? Denki's starting an agency?

>> No.51448687

>>51448376
we went this far without giving the free ad you fucktard.

>> No.51448766

>>51448687
So you're telling me he's not starting an agency?

>> No.51449855

>>51447922
>Get thrown in the EN gulag
>carry the entire branch

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