Numbers Thread

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E3 Edition

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>>5133380
Birthday streams this week:
>Tomorrow: Coco's birthday, with a graduation boost
>Sunday: Gura's birthday, with possibly a new song boost
bets on who wins this week?

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Yesterday's superchats

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>>5133673
fushimi gaku

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>>5133673
I wish we could see Yuya's Twitch earnings on her last stream there.

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>>5133613
Gura should get between 45k - 70k.
60k based of last thread's consensus.

Coco got 45k for her last birthday, and her live audience number has been stagnant since then. She gained as many viewers as she lost them. Therefore, 45k is a good baseline. Not sure about upper limit, 80k maybe?

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How about VOD views?
Gura may have the most birthday stream views.

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>>5134512
1M within a week.

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Gura has the most viewed VOD among all vtubers, right?
Her debut stream.

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>turn off adblock to support the girls
>black bitch from Ghostbusters constantly
>turn on adblock

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But no one gives a fuck about VODs here cumbuckets, try again later.

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Only count vtuber starts with brand new channel

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>>5134570
LOL, is that the "republican has been..." fucking ad? I also keep getting "League of Legend is free!"

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>>5134644
No it's for one of the food delivery services

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Do japs only care about nintendo?

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>>5134716
yes

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>>5134644
How long is the ads that you got?
I keep getting Genshin ads and their ad is an entire wiki of a character

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>>5134716
Sony isn't going to E3 this year, right?
They'll do their own show, IIRC, we'll see by then if their numbers would be good

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HOLY FUCK CHUMKEKS STOP SHITTING UP THE THREAD AND FUCKING KILL YOURSELVES !!!!!!!!!

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>>5133380
What is there to say about Bahroo consistently being in these charts?

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>>5134887
Only thing to say is that vnuma is retarded for including him but there's not much we can do about that

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>>5134887
No one cares fag. He sc’d Gura $100 to beg for a collab and she thanked him for the money without acknowledging what he said. Get fucked

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>>5134887
does Bahroo lurks here?

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>>5134716
Yeah, mostly Nintendo with a bit of Sony thanks to the extended live of the PS4

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>>5134974
I'm just trying to change the subject instead of having the same 5 people speculate Gura's numbers.

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>>5134998
You try to unsubtly mention that retarded generic asshole Bahroo in EVERY. SINGLE. NUMBERS THREAD. Fucking kill yourself

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>>5134998
Just ignore the chums numberfagging, even Gura doesn't like numberfagging so it's weird that they do this

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>>5133380
nyanners in the top 10

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>>5134957
That wasn't him. It was some fan.

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>>5133380
TOKO LOVE

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Uh-oh

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>>5135855
What does that mean? Things like bot accounts that only subscribe and never watch and multiple accounts with the same IP?

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for the anon who asked for a comparison between the last live 3Ds in last thread:
Nenes Max viewers : 49.318 SC: 20.015$
Aquas Max viewers : 100.436 SC: 24,463$
Suisei Max viewers : 67.055 SC: 28.405$
AZKI Max viewers : 9.002 SC: 1.177$
those are the ones i remembered. if i missed any lives feel free to add to it

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>>5136275
>multiple accounts with the same IP?
That sounds stupid cause that would mean everyone that live in an apartment complex and share a wifi or college campus would be purged.

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>>5134928
this.

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>>5135855
chikin...

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>>5136507
Based nenechi and sui-chan running a cult

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>>5134928
Why shouldn't they include him? Are you just mad that he consistantly performs better than your precious Manjisanji males?

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>>5136982
when these two are dancing and singing my wallet just kind of opens all on its own. they are also the only two holos that i have merch from with Nene now being my oshi

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>>5137039
He's just a trendhopper, Vshojo is still the king of Twitch vtubbing

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>>5137299
How did she do it? Nene went from the lowest runner from the entirety of Gen 5 to top superchat in a matter of a few months. What is her secret? How was it possible? What drugs or hypnosis spell did she use and why is she so fuckin’ cute?

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>>5137635
all I can remember is her changing away from her chinese-inspired model

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>>5137635
she litteraly never was doing as bad as people make it out to be. even early on she was head to head with Polka in sc and both of them were ahead of Botan. her live views were always second best in her gen besides Botans. the only metric she was low on(and still is) is subs

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>>5137765
>moving away from chinks
>becomes successful
Delicious

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>>5133673
And Yuya was "forced" to turn off superchats after a while, kind of a bittersweet ending

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>>5133380
Friendly reminder Pekora rules the vtuber world, and Cover should giver her whatever she asks

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>>5137765
>>5137834
could you fags not rewrite my oshis history for your political shit?

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>>5137039
It's like including Pewdiepie if he kept using the vtuber model, he already had a big fanbase before that wasn't gained as a vtuber unlike 99% of chuubas who start their channels from scratch

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>>5138424
Retarded take, Gura also had a big fanbase before. You take one out for this reason, you take the other one out as well
>in b4 b-but she was a vtuber before it's different
irrelevant to the point you're raising.

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>>5139066
Gura made a new account, he did not. She had high chances of simply losing most of her old dead subs, but her meme power was too strong.

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>>5137939
> Cover should giver her whatever she asks
Her latest greeting is really bad. Why won't Cover filter this shit?

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>>5139066
>roommate posting
Gura started her account from zero subs. That's the point that >>5137039
is making. Pewdiepie, Pokimane and this Bahroo person didn't start as VTubers, just like Nyaaners didnt start as a VTuber (the only reason she is included is likely because of VShojo).

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>>5139460
It's a joke, EOPtard
The greeting sucks on purpose to get a reaction out of chat. That setup of "boasting/doing something dumb intentionally to then getting bashed by chat" is how Pekora does comedy, and you would know that if you actually watched her streams

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>>5139543
What the heck? That second quote was the wrong one. I was trying to point to >>5137385

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>>5137299
I hope you are ready for the 25th when they do a 3D karaoke stream together.

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>>5140197
hell yeah i am! and we got a NenePolka Cinderela live on 26th as well. already bought my tickets

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>>5139066
Nigga, get him to create a new account first then it's a deal.

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>>5133673
What happened to niji kr?

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>>5134974
>copium sold separately
Yes.

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>>5144577
not really people there think forsen invented the copium meme

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>>5144491
It was her graduation stream

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>>5144678
and that mowtedoo invented gachi/MADs

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numbers love
words hate

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>>5149614
words deceive, never trust them anon

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>>5133380
Vod and subs are still the best indicator

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>>5133380
>/our/ girl on top 10
nice

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>>5153401
>>/our/
kys

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>>5133380
NINTENDO WON

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>>5133673
>Uto
Whoa, that’s a surprise. I haven’t seen Uto on the list for a long time since before her yab. I was also expecting her new outfit to have been on the list but before was top 13 so too bad. Still, that makes me happy she’s doing well.

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>graduation buff
>still cant beat the rabbit

June median views(Median views last month)
Pekora 36,652(28,852)
Marine 29,029(24,333)
Coco 27,081(7,592)
Aqua 25,584(28,214)
Miko 17,634(15,273)
Rushia 17,349(15,718)
Subaru 17,119(17,599)
Korone 16,664(13,088)
Suisei 15,393(13,502)
Kanata 15,010(12,112)
Botan 13,654(11,309)

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>>5134584
>But no one gives a fuck about VODs here cumbuckets
It’s a number. More numbers: Gura has the most subs, the most members, and the record for most live viewers, as well as most VOD views.

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>>5164601
Pekora has more VOD views

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>>5164942
This is true, if only because she streams so often.

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>>5164601
Views number
Gura is all the way down in 26th. Not even top 10 kek

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>>5166971
ChronoirHAL on top...

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>>5166971
Isn't that pretty good? Calli and Gura have the youngest accounts on that list.

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>>5164942
>>5167181
And?
Chumkeks, I don't think your argument of VOD views can really hold ground even if you post in this thread everyday when you can barely get top 10 in weekly views.

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>>5167181
>>5167617
So this is how you silence chumkeks, heh

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>>5167617
doesnt it take a day before it takes the current stream?
she hasnt streamed on her channel since 3 days ago and the latest vod is 400k

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>>5167617
Nta, and you are arguing on a bad faith, but I'll humor you since I'm bored. Gura's videos have more views than Pekora's. You can argue under the "total" VOD views, and I can argue under the VOD views "per video".

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>>5167617
Last 7 days?

So I assume 9-15 June? You're proud about beating Gura in VOD views when she's only had 2 streams on her channel in that period?

Are you retarded?

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>>5168295
man Gura really is lazy isn't she...

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>>5168216
So anon, I'm seeing there that pekora can gain more views in the same time frame than gura. Gura's fans can watch/rewatch their favourite videos of whatever they so desire on that week, But pekora's fans, which you can really see on live views on how hardcore they are, has way more options. I won't even talk about who's making more bank at that.

>>5168295
Anon, do me a favor and sort it by monthly views. maybe you can get a better place for gura. The link is holo.poi.cat. Maybe you can use another one. Just don't sort by daily views.

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>>5168436

She had collabs with Calli and Amelia on their channels and a Member's stream before her break iirc.

She usually only does 5 streams per week. That's all the streams for the past week accounted for.

If anything, the fact that she's 8th in Over-all Views despite only streaming 5 days a week and with no short videos/MVs to boost that number says a lot.

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>>5168295
>You're proud about beating Gura in VOD views when she's only had 2 streams on her channel in that period?
I had to check out of sheer curiosity. She actually only had three streams, not two. But you're right. That's less than half of her usual streaming content amount.

>>5167617
Ironically, even with all this, she is still in the top 5 Holos for the entire 30-day period. And that doesn't even include the outfit reveal or the videos for that week.

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>>5168515
She's in 5th despite only having 15 streams in that 30 day period (17 May - 15 June)

For comparison, Pekora had 40 streams in that same period.

Pekora = 19,925,045 (overall views) /40 streams = 498,126~ views per vod

Gura = 12,236,056 / 15 = 815, 737~ views per vod

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>>5137385
Bahroo is one of the most well-known and well-established streamers on Twitch and publicly stated he spent over $5000 on his design/model, but yeah he's just a trendhopper. Kill yourself

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>the nyanners incline over the past few months
No wonder Hololive is desperate for a collab

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>>5164942
>>5167181
I thought the argument was that Gura had the most VOD views. Not "it's pretty good"
26th in total doesn't sound like the most to me but maybe numbers work different for you

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>>5169082
Just because you're famous/popular doesn't mean that you are otherwise an authentic person or even original in your ability to create content. Following that same logic, just because you spend thousands of dollars on a VTuber model doesn't mean that you are not a trend hopper. The real question is: when did he commission and start using said VTuber model?

If this happened:
>within the last six months, then he is a trend-hopper for sure.>more then six months ago, but less than a year ago, then he is a clout-chaser, thus a trend-hopper.
>more than a year ago, but still during the Hololive/VTuber boom within 2020, then he is an early adopter trend hopper.
>before 2020, then he has plausible deniability given that's a western steamer who just got familiar with VTubing while it was an obscure phenomenon.

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Yesterday's superchats

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>>5172043
PPP in the top 3, what a time to be alive

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>>5172043
10k for a normal stream? rushia is something else

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>>5172543
She's gotten >$10k on 6 of her last 12 streams it's insane, and her only competitor at the top is leaving in 2 weeks

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>>5172623
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

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>>5133819
Anon, Coco will get a graduation boost.

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>>5172043
Is the column on the right how many people gave superchats? The girl in 3rd place got $3572 from 94 ppl only?

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>>5174187
pretty sure its just the amount of super chats itself, so 94 sc that all add up to 3572$ a person can send more than one sc

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>>5172043
I've always been curious about this question, but how much does a twitch streamer earn in a stream if you compare them to a holo with 10-20k live viewers in a stream? Does Bahroo earn more than the Holos?

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Holy shit. Duck beat the Rabbit

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>>5174965
The Minecraft buff is strong

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>>5174635
Doesn’t twitch take a higher cut of the donations? Or is it youtube that takes higher? I remember they said that B2 takes 50% or something as well as NND who also take a bigger cut.

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>>5176477
Twitch has variable cuts depending on your exact relationship with them. As a partner it's like 12% or something but your base cut is 50%

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>>5176477
Twitch takes 50% even if you are partnered, you need a special deal for a different cut. Youtube takes 30%, plus pays much better in terms of ads per each view.

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>>5176539
pretty sure you have to only stream on twitch and have some amazing numbers to get that 12% deal

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Doggo had no mercy today

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>>5174965
kinda surprised Gura got 24k on her dbd stream

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>>5174965
Normal stream winning against Nintendo buff, damn..

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>>5181224
Most Japs watch on their phones so couldn't watch both the direct and Peko at the same time

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>>5176645
All monetized platforms give their top performers better cuts.

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>>5181523
Not youtube, youtube is run by bots so I'm pretty sure they couldn't give you a bigger cut even if Susan wanted to

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>>5181961
That's just a PR excuse. HoloJP and HoloEN don't do streamlabs since they generate enough from SC to get better cuts and/or deals. If HoloID has streamlabs, why won't the other branches do the same unless there's an incentive to avoid doing so?

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>>5182736
NijiEN just showed how viewers donate way more in superchats than with streamlabs.

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>>5181961
Verified accounts are handled by human staff.

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>>5182797
Isn't it easier to Superchat instead of streamlabs because of googlepay? Almost everyone has a google account linked with their bank account.

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>>5183380
It’s psychology.
YouTube has made it as easy as possible and makes the donate button flash when a SC train is happening to entice you to donate. The SC show up in chat and are nice bright colors. A lot of impulse SC (like flushing).
Streamlabs requires you to go into the description and click a link which immediately kills some people’s desire to donate.

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>>5179341
Korone mogging, this early in the morning, is very delicious.

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Are they called "numbers" because they make you feel numb?

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>>5183943
badum tsss

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>>5164942
>Pekora has more VOD views
I don’t mean who streams the most. I mean average VOD views. Otherwise it would be like you adding up all the total live views together into one pile to give credit to the person who streamed the most.

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>Gura has the most live views
Ooops not anymore.
>Gura has the most VOD views
Ooops not anymore.
>Gura has the most hmmm...Median VOD views by stream? Yeah, that works
You are here.

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>>5184933
>Gura has the most live views
For the record? Yes.
>Gura has the most VOD views
For the average? Yes.
>Gura has the most hmmm...Median VOD views by stream? Yeah, that works
Obviously, because no one counts who streams the most as a meaningful reward. Otherwise the daily live views would be meaningless because we would have to add them all together over a month to see what number was highest in total, to thereby declare a winner based on who streamer the most.

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>>5184939

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>>5184939
>Pekora has more views playing the same game than Gura.
Quick, hide, chumkeks will start to spam very soon.

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>>5184864
>Otherwise it would be like you adding up all the total live views together into one pile to give credit to the person who streamed the most.
why is gura so lazy

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>>5184939
I know it's just a countdown but that's underwhelming considering she's going to graduate soon. Also holy shit Subaru is killing it, no gimmick, no special buff, just raw power.

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>>5184939
what was Korone doing anyway why she got that big of a number?

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>>5185097
Anon, would it kill you to not spend a day without bait posting?

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>>5185157
At this rate, shionkko and ayamefriend would be converted into subatomo by the time they came back

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>>5185244
penalty game

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Another first 1M am i correct ?

LETS GOOOOO

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>>5185134
Idk, maybe researching and practicing different set of karaoke songs takes a lot of time?

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>>5185244
penalty reverse totsu. was pretty fun honestly. recomend to give it a watch

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Predictions for tomorrow's Asacoco? Can it break 100k?

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>>5185157
>no gimmick, no special buff

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>>5133380
>>5184939
Do the whole list, faggot.

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>>5185457
Too high, Asacoco usual number is 20k.

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>>5185157
"Going to check out what everybody's been doing in minecraft lately" is a pretty decent buff normally, and that's right on her title.

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>>5185385
>Another first 1M, am I correct?
I guess so?
Lets go over everything (yes this is sort of a troll):
1. Gura has the most subscribers.
2. Gura has the most subscriber growth.
3. Gura has the most members.
4. Gura has the most VOD views by the average.
5. Gura has the record for highest live views.
6. Gura has the most Twitter followers.
7. Gura is a number machine.

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>>5185541
Usual, sure, but this is the first Asacoco in ages, probably the last Asacoco ever and also her birthday stream. Plus the graduation buff and the fact that it's running on JP prime time.

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>>5185633
don't want to be a doomer but, I seriously doubt it'll reach 100k

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>>5185620
>1. Gura has the most subscribers.
did she beat Ai already?

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>>5185457
doubt it very much, I give it 30-40k unless she announces special guests beforehand

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>>5185084
Kizuna AI was relevant once too and faded away just like your meme shark.

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>>5185620
except Rushia makes a shitload more money in the numbers that matter: dollars

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>>5185620
8. Gura has the most antis on this thread

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>>5185795
>I know you’re referring to Hololive but I need to nitpick to feel better.
Anon, I understand completely.
>>5185949
Here: >>5185620

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>>5185979
Kizuna AI has 3 million subs and makes less than indies

you really dont understand how this works, do you? what good are dead subs?

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>>5185971
>dollars
Gura does okay in dollars too, based on her member numbers (in pic). I suppose doing member-only karaoke and avoiding reading superchat, contributed to it.

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>>5183120
And despite all that Coco couldn't get youtube to respond to her request for aid without literally spamming the YouTube bot account on twitter

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>>5185979
>I know you’re referring to Hololive but I need to nitpick to feel better.
i didn't actualy but hey whatever helps you feel better

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>>5186071
>members with ARS and other worthless currencies
Rushia shits all over her, anon.

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>>5185385
>Gura 997K on Twitter
I know that Gura is first place in followers from all holos.
But has another chuuba reached 1M followers in Twitter btw?

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>>5186098
>Members are of no dollar value
Anon, whatever gets to to sleep at night is fine by me.

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>>5186072
Do pajeets even understand english.

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>>5186202
Rushia made 10k today doing nothing. One day.

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>>5186222
>If Gura has 20k members made up of both $5 and $10 members, combined with her SC dollars, it’s if no real value.
If it makes you feel better, I will agree.

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>>5186126
Does Kizuna Ai have a twitter?
If she does, wouldn't it already over 1M followers?

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>>5186335
https://twitter.com/aichan_nel
Not even 600k

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>>5185977
It's an everyday occurrence in numbers treads the desperate attempt of:
>if Gura is not #1 in every single metric she is a failure and a fake #1

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>>5186335
>Does Kizuna Ai have a twitter?
>If she does, wouldn't it already over 1M followers?
Kizuna has 600k on Twitter.

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>>5184864
Why would average matter more when Gura doesn't stream that much in the first place? What's wrong with giving credit to the one who has the most total?

As an example, it's like having Resto A and Resto B
Resto A has 1 branch with 1000 sales. Resto B has 3 branches with 800 sales each but 2400 in total.
In the end, resto B would still have more sales over resto A.

The higher average would still result in less total VOD views if she doesn't stream much in the end. Somebody else put in more effort with more streams so they would have higher total.

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actually Nyanners just got 1M followers on twitter before gura:
https://twitter.com/NyanNyanners/status/1334017308809981953

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>>5186219
They can, they just dont get paid enough to care. Its in the name jewtube.

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>>5186542
The problem is when people take the raw numbers and go "SEE? THE SHARK FUCKING SUCKS! IRRELEVANT BITCH"
That's when people explain why she has lower total views

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>>5186542
Both average and total have their value in numbers, don't underestimate either.

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>>5137039
He is a vtuber, but he's pretty different from the rest. He's not really into anime or japanese culture or at least doesn't talk about it on stream if he is. He's just a regular twitch streamer who uses a rigged avatar as a replacement for face cam.

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>>5186428
>if Gura is not #1 in every single metric she is a failure
That’s why posting numbers for Gura can be funny. If people didn’t get mad over it, it would be boring and probably not worth posting.
>>5186542
>Why does average VOD views mean more than just counting the total VOD views of all the streams since they started streaming?
Depends on if you want to know who streams the most, or who does the best when they do actually stream. Same can be said for live views. Do you want to add the total of live views together in a giant pile at the end of the month to see who streams the most? Probably not.

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>>5186542
If you wanna compare with Pekora that's fine, but some idiot is gonna end up finding some chuuba who has barely over her total views but had to stream 30x more hours/videos.

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>>5186631
>@NyanNyanners 240,9 followers
What am I missing?

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>>5186764
wrong account, follow the link

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>>5186761
Yeah but earlier ppl were discounting Pekora only having the most VOD views just because she streams more
>>5165666

Should it be counted against her that she's hardworking?

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>>5186428
>>5186752
need our wumao friend to come back to tell us some random chink got 200k viewers and $75k on bilibili

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>>5186761
Good luck finding that

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>>5187198
Bilibili numbers are made out of pixie dust and creative counting so those are automatically disqualified

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>>5187192
Both metrics are valuable in their context, no need to hold one number against the other on no one. Just as cold hard number analysis.

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>>5186752
>If people didn’t get mad over it, it would be boring and probably not worth posting
It's pretty obvious the manjisanji sperg switched to Gura

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>>5185971
>>5186098
>currency meme
Anon, assuming that her audience is even only 50% USA based, that's still around 9,000 US members. In case you're wondering, Rushia, Ina and Ame are neck and neck with each other at around 9,000 members all counted. Again going by that list, Rushia needs to double her user-base to even come close to Gura's total membership.

I will assume, that the vast majority of members belongs to the anglospehere, because of course it makes sense to assume such. So 2/3 (66%, or around 12,000 from about 18,300) will likely be Americans, Canadians a Yuroops that speak English. Most of those currencies are within earshot of the dollar value.
12,000 x 5 = $60,000
12,000 x 10 = $120,000
Accounting for error, Gura's revenue baseline at the absolute lowest is between $50,000 and $100,000 every month off of memberships alone. This is only 2/3 of her baseline indicated on >>5186071

Rushia's membership is only $5. She also has a baseline less than 50% of Gura's (around 9000).
9,000 x 5 = $45000
Assuming that 100% of Rushia's members are first worlders and accounting for error, Rushia's absolute baseline is somewhere around $40,000

I don't know about you but $50,000 is at least 15% greater than $40,000, and that gap increases significantly the higher you go on the Gura scale. This adds up ridiculously and stretched out to a year ($600,000 ~ $1,200,000 vs $480,000), even if we remove 1/3 off of Gura's measured subs. In reality Gura is likely making somewhere between $1,250,000 and $2,500,000 in membership revenue.

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>>5189372
none of these numbers are real

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>>5189563
>none of these numbers are real
If I were him, just saying Gura has the most members is enough of a win, rather than trying to know the exact $ range. I’m sure it’s a lot, but it’s not really necessary IMO.

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>>5186542
Anon, this thread praises the blue autists everyday.

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>>5189563
>none of these numbers are real
>literally all the membership totals were taken from the table that had all the info gathered
>the numbers for Gura were modified to give as much of an advantage to Rushia's income numbers for the calculations
>Rushia and Gura's membership costs are commonly known quantities (at least in JPY and USD)
Anon?

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>>5189842
you dont know how many members they have. vote rate on polls isn't 100%. i'm not arguing for either side, but we've had this song and dance before on the numbers thread dozens of times

[Anonymous No.]

>>5186764
Check the link, anon. It's real.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5186071
Mori's members video that she has just unprivatized had around 18k views on release, earlier today. So the real numbers might be more than double those counts.

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>>5189895
That wasn't gathered by vote rate, but by unique posters. Even with the numbers not being 100% accurate, it doesn't make them any less real unless you want to go into heavy assumptions about the nature of the viewership in chat (which is what I did to illustrate how retarded the idea of the ARS meme is in the first place).

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>>5190090
>the real numbers might be more than double those counts.
That’s what the Japanese were saying when they viewed those numbers. The truth is we don’t know by how much. So it’s best to just assume a little higher to be safe, rather than too much higher and be off the mark.

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>>5190090
assuming it is the same ratio: 18/7 x gura's 18k counted = ~46k members, damn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5189051
Wanna try summoning them?
>>5185514
>Kuzuha all the way down to 15k on his signature APEX stream,
What happened there?

[Anonymous No.]

Im betting KiaraxNyanners won't beat InaxPikamee collab numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>5190811
that's his normal numbers, in fact they're a bit high because he switched to SFV again and is being trained.

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>>5190849
What's your estimation for the peak number? I'm thinking 12k because both of them are streaming.

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>>5191059
I thought only Kiara was streaming it. Do you have the link to nyanner's one?

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>>5191259
I don't have the link for nyanner's.
The collab is in her schedule, so I assume that nyanner would stream, too.

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>>5191059
I think it would be around ~17k on both twitch and youtube. But since Clubhouse 51 is kinda a debuff game so the realistic number could be 8-13k

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>>5184939
Top 10 sheep, hell yeah

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>>5190849
What's the number for InaxPikamee again? I forgot

[Anonymous No.]

>>5193707
27.5k

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>>5193016
Sheep's been getting a big minecraft buff recently, seemingly much bigger than others like botan and kanata, no?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5194408
hmm seems unlikely for kiara to beat that number imo

[Anonymous No.]

>>5194408
I'm not sure why but in terms of streamers, I think twitch has higher highs while Youtube has bigger streams that are below 100k if that makes any sense? Like the top twitch streams would mog youtube streamers in views but the mid to low level (where vtubers belong) usually gets way higher viewership in youtube. Is that right or is my impression outdated/incorrect?

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>>5196202
It's to do with how Twitch and YouTube handle streaming and trending around them. Twitch also has the raid feature, which has greater impact in views at the higher end than it does at the lower end of the viewership spectrum.

Finally, Twitch is built from the ground up for streaming, while YouTube isn't, so their algorithms prioritize different things altogether.

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>>5194670
More likely that she and flare isn't overlapping that much anymore. And it is subjective but she is more likable than flare(not too high of a bar) so the JPs go to her for their post-midnight stream fix.

[Anonymous No.]

Nyanners on the list

[Anonymous No.]

uhh KFPkeks care to explain this one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5198062
It means Hololive would do well on Twitch and should start HoloTwitch branch

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>>5197856
That's all? Pretty shit numbers for such a "controversial" collab

[Anonymous No.]

>>5199607
22k for Nyanners is a success.

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>>5199607
Higher numbers collabing with the lowest of the HoloEN barrel than with her own birthday stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5201878
>>5202057
Maybe I am too used to big numbers that I kind of see 20k as the bare minimum.
Hololive really warps your perception of things

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>>5202540
You're insane if you think 20k is normal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5202753
For Kiara it's probably her most successful stream to date

For everyone else, it's Tuesday

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>>5202540
So only Pekora and Gura? Marine relies on the type of content.

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>>5199607
>Pretty shit numbers for such a "controversial" collab
Nyanners usually averages 7-10k viewers recently. Which is actually extremely high compared to most non high-end hololive vtubers. Successful vtubers that have made it usually average 1.5-4k viewership.
22k is a crazy metric for a twitch-based vtuber. She also held 20kish until she ended stream after the collab too which is also impressive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5202925
he's a falseflagger, he's already posted this shit phrase
>hololive really warps your perception of things
a million times on the previous threads

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>>5202878
It's not even her most successful stream in the last month, now fuck off back to your newfag containment zone globalfag, nobody here cares about how much you hate Kiara so post numbers or shut up

[Anonymous No.]

>>5202540
20k is top class even for hololive retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5202540
I bet you're also one of those retards that only looks at the top 10 and think that's how the industry fares on average nowadays.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5202995
3k, anon. The proverbial "wall" is at around 3k. After that you become a high tier chuuba numbers wise. The chuuba gods all float above 10k on average.

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>>5203600
Not him but I kinda do. Anyone with averages below 10k views is pretty much irrelevant to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>5202997
Anon, those were different people all having discussions over what constitutes as being "successful". The conversation is interesting at least, but largely irrelevant to the charts.

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>>5202540
It’s higher than her birthday charity stream

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>>5203848
Damn

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>>5202753
>You're insane if you think 20k is normal
He didn’t say it was normal, he said it was “shit”

[Anonymous No.]

Is she the only ES pandering jp chuuba with good numbers?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzgncbjIlJc

[Anonymous No.]

>>5203948
It's pretty shit for an anticipated collab.
That's what Korone and Okayu get in a random unnanounced stream together. Anticipated collabs like Pekomoona got 100k (on Pekora, and 30k for Moona's stream)

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>>5204003
Legit yes. I follow her numbers as a matter of research and everything about her is over performing compared to her peer group. She's such an anomaly it's not even fair to compare her to other chuubas (if you don't count Holos doing Duolingo).

>Wactor girls average around 500 live viewers
>Misora drags in the numbers at over 1000 at the lowest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5203848
Can that site just not take images from twitch or is it because her twitch channel is flagged as mature content?

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>>5204130
>PekoMoona
Anon, that particular collab has a history to it and everyone was anticipating it due to the emotional investment from both Moona and Pekora, as well as the viewers. It was one of the few moments in Hololive where friendship was built organically and on stream.

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>>5204130
>20k is pretty shit. That’s what Korone…
Your IQ is too low to be posting in a number thread. Nyanners is not Korone. For her, 20k is pretty good. What world do we live in for it being “shit” anyway. To be honest, it’s not shit no matter who gets it. It’s actually more than decent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5204483
Twitch vods sometimes don't show thumbnails, it's some rendering issue

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>>5204527
Anon, just say its pekora+minecraft+one-on-one collab+a fair amount of advertisement and we'll know it's an amazing event number-wise. You don't need to say all that embarrassing stuff.

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>>5204591
>brag about being near the top
>gets surprised when compared to the top
Ogey

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>>5203600
I mean to be fair to the other anon, if you only watch Hololive then 20k for a hyped stream between two chuubas belonging to the top 2 companies in the west would be below expectations. Ina and Pikamee had at least 27k and as much as I like Pika, she doesn't have nearly as much clout as the pink cat. Hell, I'm fucking guilty of it too. I knew NijiEn wasn't going to set the world on fire but I was at least expecting 7-5k for at least the first 3 months to mirror HoloEn's trajectory. Nowadays, those 3 can barely manage to get 3k. Sometimes they don't even get to 2k.

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>>5204925
I never said she was top. I said it was decent for her. You’re just retarded.

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>>5204996
>I knew NijiEn wasn't going to set the world on fire but I was at least expecting 7-5k for at least the first 3 months to mirror HoloEn's trajectory.
If Niji EN did pull off a 22k stream, and you thought that was pretty decent, someone would still say it’s shit anyway, so what’s the difference? Just being real.

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>>5203848
How Nyanners subcount growth? Did it get a boost?

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>>5204996
Ina and Gura were streaming at the same time.
Ina is doing a sponsored draw stream and Gura was doing a members only.

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>>5205080
>Backpedaling

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>>5205183
The problem is they haven't so we can't even start arguing whether those numbers are shit or not. Hell, outside of their debut, they have yet to pull 5 digit viewerships. I'm actually wondering how many times they've gotten past 5k since debut.

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>>5205222
I think Kiara being the least popular HoloEn might have more to do with it than stream overlap. I'm almost certain that Calli and Mousey's upcoming stream breaks 30k at least

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>>5205318
>I cannot post any example
Right.

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>>5205598
HoloEN has over 1mil subs each, and yet many of their recent streams don't break 5 digits. (Gura the only real exception)

[Anonymous No.]

>>5205933
That's the price of having your fan base spread out in every timezone. They make it up in VOD views.

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>>5205933
Fair point though I brought this up simply because we're suppose to be still in the honeymoon phase for NijiEn. HoloEn's numbers (except Kiara) were easily 5 digits more often than not for the first 2-3 months. If we assume the same trajectory for NijiEn, we could see them getting Anya-levels of engagement after the honeymoon period, especially once EN2 debuts which I'm pretty sure will be a month after Coco's graduation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5202540
You and many other holofags literally are.

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>>5206234
Piggybacking on this. Is there a site that someone could use to track NijiEn and HoloEn's average live viewerships and VOD Views weekly for the first 3 months? I wanna compare their growth pattern once NijiEn hits 3 months so we can determine if they follow the same behavior or if NijiEn has a slower/steeper decline rate.

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>>5206513
>I wanna compare their growth pattern once NijiEn hits 3 months so we can determine if they follow the same behavior or if NijiEn has a slower/steeper decline rate.

Gura was an anomaly amongst anomalies. Her honeymoon period just would not end. Gura's ridiculous growth also helped HoloEN as a whole for months on end.

Meanwhile, NijiEN has already massively slowed down and Pomu still hasn't hit 100k.

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>>5206734
In that case would it be better to remove Kiara and Gura (the lowest and highest) to get a better comparison? Again, my main goal isn't to analyze the raw numbers but the pattern of how much they decline relative to the previous month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5206944
The problem is that Gura biased the entire group already. It's not just HoloMyth either, but all of Hololive since HoloEN got announced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5202925
Marine crossed 20k more than gura did this month

[Anonymous No.]

>>5206944
Gura stil bolstered all of HoloEN, keeping the debut momentum going for months. So the numbers would still be in their favor even if you don't count Gura.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5137635

Marrying all of her fans.

For real though, she's one of the smartest HoloJPs.

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>>5206977
Okay, I think I understand where your coming from now. If Gura has in fact brought in a ton of new viewers to Hololive as we suspect she has then I can see why that'll skew the data even if we remove her from the equation. Is there anyway we can better predict NijiEn's possible growth pattern though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5134543
Are you forgetting music VODs?

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>>5207171
NijiEN came late enough to not have been affected by the VTuber boom of 2020. Right now, this could be a good marker for how the market will react to VTubers in the future. On the other hand, we might have to compare their growth against maybe HoloEN2 to see if there is a pattern between them.

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>>5133380
Pekora is so based

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>>5207171
Well when someone finds and subscribes to Gura, many will end up finding and subscribing to her friends. It’s a network. If Hololive EN was just Kiara for example, she would probably be at 150k subs right now, if even. Without all the other Holo ENs to network with, she couldn’t succeed. So one very successful Holo EN raises the entire group. So who is driving the growth? Two of the bigger ones are Gura (obviously) and Mori. Even if people don’t like Mori, she pulls in new viewers. Her music uploads likely help too. It’s just a reality.

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>>5207584
Niji EN is not a marker for the performance of Holo EN Gen 2.

[Anonymous No.]

Gura being in Holo EN Gen 1, actually helps Holo EN Gen 2. It’s a network. Gura can even collab with them. And if Gen 2 gets their own Gura (another big name), then the shows over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5196202
>>5197526

Actually the biggest stream ever is Felix Baumgartner's skydive in 2012, with 8 million live viewers on YouTube.

If something that big happened today it could break 50 million.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5207988
Anon, the pattern. Patterns are not the same as raw numbers.

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>>5208348
The reason Niji EN is not a marker for Holo EN Gen 2, is because it’s a network. Meaning that Gen 2 with be streaming with Gen 1. They are not starting from the ground up. Also Hololive captured a bigger part of the Western market.

[Anonymous No.]

Sum of vod views/ hours streamed

[Anonymous No.]

that was close

[Anonymous No.]

>>5213811
Wake up call for the bunny to drop that franchise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5208244
An event so big I remember watching it live even though it had nothing to do with my interests at all. Red Bull's marketing team were so good at their job back then. It's crazy that this was almost 9 years ago. A full decade without something as hype as Red Bull Stratos. What do we have to do, livestream the next moon landing?

As far as individual streamers go I think it's still TheGrefg's Fortnite skin reveal with 2.4 million on Twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

Yesterday's superchats

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>>5220020
ange love!

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>>5220020
Did you cut out to just include vtuber

[Anonymous No.]

>>5220020
Tatsunokos getting milked hard but I'm sure they still have enough to make the graduation stream a ridiculous total

[Anonymous No.]

>>5216098
kpop shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>5202878
Anon are you literally retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5205751
>>5204996
Are you just retarded or do you literally ignore that this one was streamed on both channels while the Pika collab was only on Ina's?
Also yes, overlap does matter, not much but it does.

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>>5206234
>HoloEn's numbers (except Kiara) were easily 5 digits more often than not for the first 2-3 months
Anon your memory is shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>5185882
>>5185767
See? I wasn't too far off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5223086
why are they donating to the people who bullied their oshi out of vtubing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5229424
Go bait people in some other thread about it. Numbers is what's important here.

[Anonymous No.]

Ina showing us that she can reach the same numbers on an early morning as her usual afternoons

[Anonymous No.]

>>5226739
did it reach over 100k?
because I was late and only got ther bear the end and the numbers were 90k

[Anonymous No.]

>>5229624
Ina has quite consistent numbers recently

[Anonymous No.]

>>5229624
Unsurprising. Ina has been consitently pulling over 10k for several months now, and that can't just be the timeslot. People just kinda wanna watch Ina do anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>5226739
>90k
>not too far off 30-40k

[Anonymous No.]

>>5224982
What a failure Kiara is.
She had the chance, the massive buff of HoloEN, and decided to just squander it as soon as possible

[Anonymous No.]

>>5229975
She's just not a numberfag and streams what she likes.

[Anonymous No.]

Brand new, meaningless numbers
>fanart on pixiv
Nijisanji: 96,666
Hololive: 113,610

[Anonymous No.]

>>5229975
I'm sure she's wiping away her tears ~700k in Superchats and the second most promotions.
You genuinely have no sense of scale and I wonder why retards keep calling her a numberfag when she does basically everything in her power to supress her live viewership.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5230049
She was down because she was last to reach 1M even though she reached it only 2 days after Ina. She is a numberfag. She rants a lot about it on her member streams. She even said before to watch her MVs or else she won't break even on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5230036
Kiara? Not a numberfag?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5230143
Jesus Christ have you actually tried watching that segment in context or do you get all info from clips?
>She even said before to watch her MVs or else she won't break even on it.
That's not what she said at all
> She rants a lot about it on her member streams.
No she doesn't

[Anonymous No.]

>>5230181
She was insecure about her numbers. Thus she is a numberfag. She's insecure about her viewership numbers. No matter how you sugarcoat it. She's a numberfag. It's not exactly a bad thing to be aware.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5230036
>Kiara
>not a numberfag
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>5230257
Yes she is insecure about her numbers, however being a numberfag would imply that she'd change what she does in order to get better numbers.
Now you could argue that going from 2 longrunning JRPGs per week to 1 at a time (sometimes with 2 stream) is such a move but I'd argue against that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5230583
why do you think she's made all those "Am [animal]" shitty videos?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5230583
A numberfag is someone who keeps bringing up their subscriber count/live views anon. Which is the very definition of Kiara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5230650
To upload something while she's on an extended break.
Also for some reason she genuinely thinks they are funny and that that's actually how frogs sound

[Anonymous No.]

>>5230583
She is a numberfag, but also incredibly arrogant, and feels like she has to "prove a point"

[Anonymous No.]

>>5230665
This. If being worried about numbers or letting numbers influence what they do makes them numberfags, then nearly every single vtuber is a numberfag and the word becomes pointless for talking about them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5230973
If only Kiara had the patience of a Tako, she may not be good at drawing but at least she could deliver fun zatsudan streams or JP collabs. Reine would've been a better fit in Kiara or Mori's spot.

[Anonymous No.]

15
136.5
1112
0.4926004
7

[Anonymous No.]

>>5232561
I just came

[Anonymous No.]

>>5224476
the mcdonalds buff is real

[Anonymous No.]

>>5229625
Asacoco usually brings 20k.
Her last birthday had 45k.
Graduation boost is very strong, but very hard to predict accurately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5235661
do we have the scs from that stream as well?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5230036
Kiara numberfags the most in EN. Next is Mori, but the numberfags in the JP branch put both of them in shame.

[Anonymous No.]

>raiding
another reason why you should trust the twitch max live viewers numbers even less

[Anonymous No.]

>>5235807
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCS9uQI-jC3DE0L4IpXyvr6w

$20k
but if you include the birthday countdown stream ($37k), then she makes close to $60k from her birthday streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5236063
Coco was showing off actual merch on AsaCoco right? I'd imagine many would save their money for an actual product. But no way to quantify

[Anonymous No.]

>>5236227
some people played out the bit of sending a SC in the same amount as merch price but i guess those are the hardcore tatsunokus who will also buy it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5235909
Huh in what way does Mori numberfag?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5236989
The literal superchat hoe? pppsh

[Anonymous No.]

>>5235661

Probably running out of money and need to save the rest for the graduation stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5236989
Mori mentions her viewership numbers a lot more than Kiara recently.

[Anonymous No.]

bump limit, new thread
>>5238283

[Anonymous No.]

The poi.cat website hasn't updated in over 24 hours and it's starting to irk me