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A thread for 潤羽るしあ, みけねこ and 飴宮なずな
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>> No.50747139
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>Mikeneko
Twitter: https://twitter.com/95rn16
Fanbox: https://mikenekoko.fanbox.cc/
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC54JqsuIbMw_d1Ieb4hjKoQ
Twitcasting: https://twitcasting.tv/95rn16
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikeneko.x/
Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@minyan84
Nekoko Store: https://nekoko.shop/
Booth: https://mikenekoko.booth.pm/
【Original Song】drop/みけねこ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHl2-rH6GnU

>Nazuna Amemiya
Profile: https://www.vshojo.com/talent/nazuna
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5gs8EbpwbfQvrhizJx60TA
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmemiyaNazuna
Shop: https://store.vshojo.com/collections/nazuna

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I love my wife's cute feet!

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>> No.50747247

>>50746097
>>50746299
In the 2 years and 7 months that Rushia was alive for, she only streamed Apex for 22.9 hours. In the 10 months and 19 days Nazuna has been alive she's streamed Apex for 71.7 hours

>> No.50747267

>>50747247
The cancer is spreading...

>> No.50747368

>>50747267
Also thought I should mention that 18% of Nazuna's total stream time has been Apex

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>>50747368
Waaay too much. I would concede maybe 5%

>> No.50747677

Come ooon Nazuna...

>> No.50748086

Missed the stream until now, but at least it was just APEX so it doesn't matter

>> No.50748126

>>50748086
she isn't commentating much either, the cooking portion was just as entertaining and that was just silence.

>> No.50748590

No, please no more, you just ranked up...
Why we only get long streams with this game...

>> No.50748602

>>50748590
That's addiction for you.

>> No.50748738

Nazuna is now very much enjoying voice chatting with Chinese men.

>> No.50748770

APEX HATE

>> No.50748949

MORE APEX MORE APEX MORE APEX

Wake me up inside (save me)
Call my name and save me from the dark (wake me up)
Bid my blood to run (I can't wake up)
Before I come undone (save me)
Save me from the nothing I've become
Bring me to life
I've been living a lie
There's nothing inside
Bring me to life

>> No.50749008

>>50748949
I don't think we'll get a twitcast later

>> No.50749377

[EN] Nazuna: I'm excited to see how far I can go each day.

AAAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH

>> No.50749449

>>50749377 (me)
She said "every day", not "each day" to make matters worse btw.
It starts to annoys me even her talking about how much she had playing this game.

>> No.50749626

I'll literally never like this game. Ever
I don't even mention it on Twitter anymore when she posts about it and I don't retweet her stream announcements if it's going to be Apex.
Is she actually that oblivious to how much most people /here/ are, at the very least, not positive about this shitty game?

>> No.50749790

I just want to talk to her. She's my wife and I want to hang out with her and do nothing and just chat. That's the thing I love to do the most.

>> No.50749974

You got your twitcast

>> No.50750001

>>50749008
well I was wrong, filtered though, hope it goes well

>> No.50750010

The antis who post on 5ch love APEX because they enjoy how it ruins her views, upsets her overseas fans and eventually leads to her breaking her promises.
That's why the fans on 4ch cannot accept APEX

>> No.50750124

>>50747121
She looks taller than me in that picture

>> No.50750132

>>50749974
I'm so happy

>> No.50750602

She's super sweet. Almost making it up for the borefest earlier.

>> No.50750658

Cheaters deserve to die

>> No.50750670

>>50750602
>shitty Nazuna stream followed by a sweet Mike stream
classic

>> No.50750770

APEX is a great game that stabilizes her spirit!

>> No.50750807

This is a terrible mikeneko stream people just can't recognize it because they are blind

>> No.50750833

>>50750807
hey I'm not even watching so I'm taking their word for it

>> No.50750983

>>50750602
>>50750807
Which is it?

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Love

>> No.50751130

>>50750983
It's a good cast if you're one of the people who were angry at her but instantly changed your mind cause she was cute and apologized.

>> No.50751202

>>50751130
I don't even know what this is supposed to be a reference to.
Angry at her for something today? Angry at her for last week? And if that's not the case, it's not a good cast?
What sort of riddling "speaking in tongues" is this snarky response supposed to clarify?

>> No.50751251

>>50751202
The cast is fine, if people are avoiding answering you directly they're making shit up

>> No.50751322

>>50751202
Falseflagger that don't watch stream...
There's a lot of them in vsj+ too

>> No.50751336

>>50751251
Some of the people on this side of the community have personalities so rotten that they'd respond in this exact wishy washy baity snarky and vagueposting way regardless of if a cast is good or not.
To assume everyone here acts on good faith is just fundamentally incorrect.

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>> No.50753404

>>50753329
Too late

>> No.50754268

冷めてる

>> No.50754436

She's doing an ichaicha twitcast tomorrow btw, for those not listening that will likely not want to miss it.

>> No.50754541

>>50754436
What is this?

>> No.50754552

>>50754541
kys

>> No.50754577

>>50754541
More reps needed

>> No.50754639

>>50754577
>>50754541
Doesn't even need reps. Do people not use google nowadays?

>> No.50754731

>>50750001
>getting filtered by a couple of yen

>> No.50754859

>>50754541
gay

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>> No.50755327

I miss Rushia

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>> No.50757265

>>50754436 (me)
She seems to be thinking again (same sudden way she thought of it) and it may not happen tomorrow if she's too busy or tired.

>> No.50757611

Cute twitcast, lovely wife

>> No.50757876

fuck apex btw

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>>50756971

>> No.50758762

>>50758182
Not brave enough to post the last one

>> No.50759779

>>50758762
me neither, just got back from my ban lol

>> No.50759780

>>50758762
why not?

>> No.50760080

>>50759780
ちくび

>> No.50760867

love wife

>> No.50761001

>>50760080
There’s one that shows areola, but it’s walking the line. Not sure how jannies would react to it.

>> No.50762112

Koroyi mentions Mikeneko
https://youtu.be/UfDJK9dQF6M?t=22132

>> No.50762229

>>50762112 (me)
Hardly anyone reacted in the chat but a few "みけではないね"

>> No.50762242

>>50762112
Are you sure she isn't literally just talking about a Calico Cat?

>> No.50762454

>>50762112 (me again)
>>50762229

Nvm, quite many reacted by "みけ", "ミケ", and "三毛" also are wife's names, apparently.
Or she's just talking about the calico cat (?)

>> No.50762512

>>50762242
Guess I'm retarded :(

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>> No.50767149

wife

>> No.50769019

love

>> No.50770147

vshojo hate

>> No.50771805

>>50762112
Not only are you a whore, but your also a dumb eop

>> No.50774170

cyu

>> No.50775941

her viewers have been decreasing ever since she joined VSHOJO.
they stole all her viewers by having her interact with the other girls. It's true!

>> No.50776182

>>50775941
actually it was because of APEX
therefore Nazuna should stop playing APEX to save her remaining viewers
Stop APEX!

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i'll watch whatever my wife wants to play

>> No.50776721

>>50776182
Apex is number poison.

>> No.50776733

>>50776182
vshojo, apex, and twitch all killed her viewership
vshojo hate
apex hate
twitch hate

>> No.50776843

>>50754870
very cute
more art of my wife please

>> No.50776955

God, this woman tortures me so much.
But I can't stop loving her.

>> No.50778099

desu I'm pretty good atm

>> No.50779225

>>50774170
Chu~

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>> No.50781058

You know, sometimes you gotta look at the bright side, at least she doesn't like Valorant.

>> No.50781366

I look forward to her APEX every day!

>> No.50781502

>>50781366
i don't

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>> No.50783014

varium hate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKxfWd79HFI

>> No.50784013

I love APEX. If you don't like APEX you're not her fan

>> No.50784869

Apex is an evil drug. You do not support drug addicts by encouraging their addiction. You get them the help to stop.
We can help Mikeneko overcome her apex addiction. The first step is to get her to play Titanfall 2 instead.

>> No.50784964

Apex and Vshojo are the things holding her back the most right now. Her viewer numbers will improve once she plays less Apex and leaves Vshojo.

>> No.50785083

>>50784964
biggy baggy bootiy simtiy smutity lunticy

>> No.50785516

>>50784964
so true, if she joined varium and had no one to talk to that would be ideal...no collabs and not streaming for weeks at a time is the way to boost her numbers

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>> No.50786426

>>50785516
Nah, Varium wouldn't help anything. The benefit would be shedding the bad reputation Vshojo brings. It would help her recover her western kaigai fans. Many fans left because Vshojo is seen as a bad company by western kaigai viewers. When she leaves, she will recover many of those viewers.

>> No.50786832

>>50785516
unironically she'd have higher numbers if she didn't stream as much
low quality consistent streams decrease numbers for her target audience
Her target audience are people who like 推し活. As soon as it stops being fun and becomes too much and impossible to keep up with, they move on to a different 推し they can follow.

>> No.50786969

>>50786426
Vshojo is always meddling with her streams forcing her to stream apex and literally makes her streams on twitch, and has a corpo mandated friendship with kson. They even made her be nice to henya. What a bunch devils

>> No.50787112

>>50786832
Honestly zero streams would be ideal for those big numbers

>> No.50787385

APEX HATE

>> No.50787541

>>50787112
24/7 silence streams will boost her numbers through the roof, imagine the viewership

>> No.50787634

>>50786969
Nah, they just saddled her with a bad contract. This, in addition to the bad reputation Vshojo has among her western fans, is the reason why she is going to leave. She will improve her viewer numbers when she leaves.

>> No.50787859

>>50787634
It was sabotage from the beginning just to throw dirt in the wound, if it’s not hololive it’s shit. We should all bow down and suck a random japs dick in appreciation.

>> No.50788046

>>50787859
We should definitely get away from Vshojo, which is a bad company that is hated by her core viewers. Many old fans have told me they will return once she leaves. Vshojo is damaging her career.

>> No.50788568

>>50788046
Oh so true vshojo is the worst ever by simply existing it’s like they do everything in their power to ruin her career. They probably just signed her to a contract to laugh while they ruin her career.We should listen to everyone in the west, they seem much smarter than us.

>> No.50788739

>>50788568
The damage comes from the bad contact they gave her, which she complained about shortly after debut and the bad reputation Vshojo has as a company among her fans, which made many of them leave. They will come back once she leaves Vshojo. Vshojo is a very bad company with a poor reputation in the west.

>> No.50788893

remember vshojo employees insult her in this thread, insult her in their private discords, and conspire to harm her relationship with her viewers

>> No.50788965

>>50788739
*has a bad reputation with holofags
The west in general has a neutral to positive opinion of Vshojo, especially the twitch crowd. But it has no barring on her content regardless, and anyone who skips her streams because of a tag are not worth keeping around, because they will always find shit to complain about.

>> No.50789000

Since it's apparently on topic, I wanna say fuck VShojo. Contract expiration when?

>> No.50789059

some of these posts read like they were made by AI
>>50788893
>>50788965
>>50789000
literally the only posts in a while that look like they were made by an actual human being kek

>> No.50789102

>>50788965
Nazuna wants her western fans to come back and they left because Vshojo is a bad company. She is going to leave once her contract expires and those fans will come back. Vshojo is extremely bad for her career.

>> No.50789152

vshojo stole her viewers
the numbers don't lie

>> No.50789170

>>50788739
They gave her the bad contract to laugh at her that’s how evil they are. It’s not like her core audience that left are a bunch of holocucks who are obsessed with tribalism over a corpo.

>> No.50789172

>>50788965
Do you think the fanbase of a former hololive talent might comprise a lot of holofags, anon? It's honestly kind of astonishing that you thought that was a point.

>> No.50789239

I will gladly fight side by side with my AI brothers to say Vshojo is fucking awful and has actively harmed her.

>> No.50789266

>>50789239
AI bears will stop the vshojo menace

>> No.50789337

>>50789172
The problem is that most of those holofags now hate her for doxx rrats, so it's kind of a moot point. They aren't directing her content, so what does it actually matter? About that only thing she's forced to do is stream on twitch, and that's not even a Vshojo mandate.

>> No.50789341

She should leave VShojo and become a full time APEX streamer

>> No.50789356

>>50789170
Vshojo gave Nazuna a bad contract because they are a bad company. Once her contract expires and she leaves Vshojo, Nazuna will recover many viewers who left due to the bad reputation Vshojo suffers from in the west. Vshojo has been very damaging to her career.

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are some retards larping in here right now? shit feels so scripted

>> No.50789362

>>50789337
>that's not even a Vshojo mandate.
kek
lmao even

>> No.50789438

>>50789337
This is a lie. Her core fanbase is still Fandead from when she was in Hololive. Nobody's talking about hako oshi people who turned on her.

>> No.50789489

Am I really watching a /vsj/ retard argue with AI generated posts? What the fuck are you even doing here?

>> No.50789513

Things were going great before VShojo. I especially liked the part where she went from streaming almost every day to ghosting all social media for extended periods until finally everyone gave up and accepted she's only going to appear on rarely and will play Apex offstream instead.

>> No.50789532

>>50789362
She said she had the option to debut on Youtube. The VSJJP president said there was some third-party agreement. Literally no one who has actual knowledge has implied it's a VSJ mandate, and there are talents who stream on Youtube, including Kson who splits her time there.

>> No.50789583

>>50789489(me)
Oh, and let me add a fuck vshojo for good measure. Can't wait to be rid of that shit.

>> No.50789598

It feel like retards just keep repeating the same dumbass dribble with zero evidence to back it up. The thing I don’t like is bad cause reasons??????

>> No.50789746

>>50789489
>Everyone I don’t like is a /vsj/ retard oooowwwooooo

>> No.50789822

VSHOJO stole Mikeneko's overseas viewers and gave her nothing in return. That's why the number of her listeners keep declining. Those overseas people will return once she leaves VSHOJO

>> No.50789880

>>50789598
>zero evidence
the things she's said to us aren't evidence I guess

>> No.50790029

>>50789746
Not a single regular in this thread would argue in favor of Vshojo.

>> No.50790044

>>50789822
Vshojo gave her a bad contract just to laugh at her, they’re just evil. They force her to play apex and keep her away from collabs. Kson drinks a beer every time mikecat loses a viewer.

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>>50789489
Roar! Growl! Huff! Moan! Grunt!

>> No.50790081

>>50789880
Yeah, literally true, because she's insane.

>> No.50790105

lol you guys sure have a hate boner for Vshojo

>> No.50790147

>>50790029
>She couldn't possibly have gained new fans after Nazuna, and if she did we don't want them

>> No.50790155

>>50790081
vsj-kun, you just outed yourself as not a fan
are you sure you wanted to give the game away that quickly?

>> No.50790233

>>50790147
The very real fans who don't listen to what she says about why she is angry at her company and instead tireless defend that company?

>> No.50790342

>>50790105
Vshojo is a bad company. It has a poor reputation in the west. Many western kaigai viewers stopped watching because they dislike Vshojo.

>> No.50790441

>all nekofami have been replaced by AI
it's over

>> No.50790453

>>50790155
OMG those /vsj/ retards are everywhere, obviously not some random catalogfag or holofag

>> No.50790529

>>50790453
why wouldn't I assume someone defending vsj is a vsjfag?

>> No.50790546

>>50790233
The only thing I've heard her complain about is feeling left out because they all post in English and not Japanese. Which is valid, they need more JP talents. Her going indie isn't going to fix that though.

>> No.50790553

>>50790453
I have a sisterly connection to the other thread posters, this thread hates vshojo. It's only /vsj/ employees who shill the company on this thread with our stolen sub money

>> No.50790577

>>50790441
I think they're just trying to gaslight because they know she lurks /here/

>> No.50790607

>>50790453
Bitching about holofags outs you as definitely a vsj poster, though. Btw, VSHOJO IS A BAD COMPANY. IT HAS A POOR REPUTATION IN THE WEST. MANY WESTERN KAIAGAI VIEWERS STOPPED WATCHING BECAUSE THEY DISLIKE VSHOJO.

>> No.50790628

>>50790546
maybe you should watch twitcasts and learn Japanese then

>> No.50790667

I used to work for Vshojo, they never paid well and they sent mobsters to rape and kill my loved ones. They are bad people. Do not Trust the Pink woman. Vshojo is a black company.

>> No.50790750

>>50790667
you still work for them scum
we see through your tricks

>> No.50790774

>>50790342
Vshojo gave nazuna a bad contract on purpose just for the hell of it. Anything the west does or thinks is more important to wife and we should worship their opinions. Their all laughing at us

>> No.50790772

>>50790667
I don't trust any women besides my wife and Vshojo is a bad company. It has a poor reputation in the west. Many western kaigai viewers stopped watching because they dislike Vshojo.

>> No.50790840

>>50790529
Who’s defending Vshojo? Point me to the post?

>> No.50790859

>>50790607
Let me guess, you are hoping that when she reads the thread she will decide to leave and not decide you are just a crazy person? Cute.

>> No.50790895

>>50790577
that's fucked up, they would never

>> No.50790934

>>50790859
No I think most of these are genuine AI posts + the usual antivsj anon.

>> No.50790962

what's with all the tourists

>> No.50790999

>>50790607
So we like hololive now all of a sudden? Also how many time will you write the same exact thing? Maybe you are a AI generated post

>> No.50791025

>>50790859
Vshojo is known to be a bad company among western fans. Examples of negative behavior include exploitative contracts, poor management, and interference with private matters. These reasons have lead to a decline in viewership for western kaigai fans.

>> No.50791044

Vshojo may be a black company but there's nothing worse than the evil pirate whore who betrayed her.

>> No.50791055

vしょじょ is あく
かいがいにき は vしょじょ が きらい です
みけねこ は つま であり だいすき で ございます

>> No.50791076

Don't let the AI nekofami posts distract you from the fact that APEX is the devil's game and she should stop playing it
STOP APEX
APEX HATE

>> No.50791154

>>50790155
Why would any long-time fan take what she says about a contract at face value? She is literally not a credible witness because she misunderstands and misinterprets things. Some of her criticisms sound perfectly reasonable but she's far from a perfectly reasonable person, and this rush to blame all of her problems on the company (which is barely even a company anyway) is extremely pointless.

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What the fuck are you dumbasses doing in here?

>> No.50791267

>>50791154
>muh not a corpo propaganda
She's complained about more than just her contract, tourist.

>> No.50791312

>>50791258
based off-topic koikatsu post

>> No.50791344

>>50791154
Vshojo is a bad company. It has many negative associations among western viewers. Many talents have also noted poor contracts and the company recently saw three departures for this reason. Talents are worried.

>> No.50791354

>>50791258
shut up mouseposter, you're probably AI too

>> No.50791388

>>50791258
One of your genius posters came here to argue with a chat bot.

>> No.50791415

btw the AI poster is probably an ESL from 5ch
doesn't change the fact that she's miserable with vsj

>> No.50791428

>>50791344
They left because they got 6 figure contracts from a fleshtuber streaming group
A group run by their boyfriends

>> No.50791435

>>50791388
imagine getting baited by an ai chatbear kek

>> No.50791476

>>50791267
No shit. It's just an obvious example where you would be insane to take her word for it.

>> No.50791617

>>50791388
Or maybe that genius poster has been here the whole time?

>> No.50791693

>>50791476
If you had a single reason to doubt her understanding of her own contract that she has had for a year, you would provide it. Instead, you're vaguely gesturing at her supposed "unreliability" to shut down criticism of vsj. That's not fan behavior. Go away.

>> No.50791701

>>50791617
Actual Nekofami would not have been so rude to our AI allies in the fight against the bad company with a poor reputation among western kaigai viewers.

>> No.50791783

>>50791701
Spoken like a true AI

>> No.50791918

>>50791693
Do you want me to start listing reasons to doubt her judgment? It wouldn't be very kind but it's also pretty obvious.
There's a weird schizophrenia in this thread where every time she obviously fucks up it's not her fault because she's insane, but when she's criticizing VShojo, WHOA, nothing to be suspicious of here, because that's what people want to believe.

>> No.50792009

>>50791918
Vshojo deserves criticism because it sucks and everything she says about it is 100% verifiable.

>> No.50792168

>>50791918
I mean, her disliking vshojo is reason enough to want her to leave. Her fans love her and want her to be happy, and staying with a company that she dislikes will not make her happy, even if she were mistaken about aspects of her contract which, again, she has actual access to to read and a lawyer to help her interpret. Unlike you.

>> No.50792180

>>50791918
VShojo is a joke of a company who only held onto their talents for so long because they had no competition
Why else are they forcing so many collabs after losing several of their biggest talents?

>> No.50792193

>>50792009
And yet people believe they are taking her sub/donation money despite all of the public information to the contrary

>> No.50792207

>>50792009
So true, now list those 100% verifiable reasons

>> No.50792282

>>50792193
This is a genuinely hilarious post.

>> No.50792307

>>50792168
It's not ever clear to me that she actually dislikes it and it is even less clear to me that she would suddenly become happier alone or joining some Japanese 2view company.

>> No.50792336

>>50792207
You're obviously informed enough to not be reflexively defending a dogshit corporation without even knowing what she said, so after you.

>> No.50792387

>>50792193
What public information? There is no public information on her contract. The only things approaching public information on her contract are the things she says about it.
>>50792307
So you only watch her corpo streams. Got it.

>> No.50792388

>>50792336
So, you have nothing verifiable? So you were talking out of your ass? Got it.

>> No.50792397

>>50792168
I bet her lawyer is a anti too, making her sign that awful contract and not explaining anything. What a shame

>> No.50792415

>>50792388
You're another case of doesn't know Japanese and doesn't watch twitcasts. Got it.

>> No.50792472

>>50792397
She literally talked this month about how her tax attorney scammed her
Listen to more twitcasts /vsj/employee

>> No.50792490

>>50792336
Who’s defending anything? Just list your reasons that’s all

>> No.50792540

>>50792387
Okay if you say so. It's going to be very clear very soon if she's actually going to ditch the company or if it's just complaints, less than a month and a half.

>> No.50792550

>>50792490
This is a /vsj/ employee trying to figure out what the public knows. Whatever you do, do not answer with the truth. Never talk to a cop.

>> No.50792569

>>50792387
>There is no public information on her contract.
There is a lot of public information (from the talents and the company) on the part of both the fact that they don't take a cut of sub/donation money and that they don't own the IPs of any of the talents. Both of which some people still don't believe. Unless they think somehow Mike has the singular contract in the entire company that specifies otherwise, in which case she should stop paying her lawyers so much, they are clearly incompetent.

>> No.50792573

>>50792472
Seems like everyone just wants to scam her or groom her, poor Mikeneko...she should just trust only her AI nekofami...

>> No.50792581

>>50792490
You. You're desperately defending Vshojo and trying to argue against something you don't even know because you've never watched a single one of her twitcasts in your life.

>> No.50792616

>>50792550
This is as bad as when /pol/ thinks everyone disagreeing with them works for the CIA. I get it, anonymous imageboards are confusing, but no not everyone arguing with you is an enemy agent.

>> No.50792697

>>50792616
ok batou whatever you say

>> No.50792747

I for one trust my wife and support her desire to shed her poor work environment.

>> No.50792786

>>50792472
>tax attorney scammed her
kek stop being paranoid, do you actually think they send Vshojo employees to fuck with their own fan base? Come on bro that’s just retarded

>> No.50792914

>eah my wife said something absolutely insane last week on a twitcast 800 people watched, and THAT'S why you should trust her

>> No.50792960 [DELETED] 

>>50792914
Anti behavior.
These are the /vsj/ posters. Actual antis. Never forget vshojo fans are antis. Never forget they call wife a liar.
Vshojo hate

>> No.50792961

>>50792581
Which one of my post is defending Vshojo? Please I’d love to know

>> No.50793014

vsj employees when the fans of a person they're trying to keep scamming trust her more than them

>> No.50793102

Nazuna please don't play APEX again

>> No.50793132

>>50793102
I'd be down for Apex with Kson, though.

>> No.50793152

>>50793132
NO
NO APEX

>> No.50793159

Don't listen to the antis, mikenyan! It's fine to go nuts, sabotage your career and never stream!

>> No.50793164

>>50792961
The ones attacking a point for why Vshojo sucks that you don't even know because you don't watch twitcasts and are reflexively trying to damage control for Vshojo.

>> No.50793201

>>50793132
Those are both things I don't want to see.

>> No.50793438

>>50793164
kek you’re paranoid No one is running damage control

>> No.50793548

>>50793438
Yes, you are. Badly.

>> No.50794075

>>50790553
go back your discord bearfag

>> No.50795547

mikeneko love

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>> No.50795778

>>50790342
She had huge debut numbers so that's not true.
If anything a lack of interactions with other Vshojo members are to blame because we see that Henya is doing fine since she can interact with them. Obviously she's hardly to blame for that because for months only kson could really talk to her but she had to know that's what she's getting into with establishing a new branch.
I do think Vshojo should get some more JP only chuubas and find some way to open up streaming on youtube for Nazuna.

>> No.50795884

>>50795778
I'm curious about why it's been hard to find a replacement editor for the Youtube channel though. They got one for Henya right away (and they translate both ways). Maybe none of them want to work for her because her content isn't great for longform clip summaries? I know some quality editors who will refuse employers unless they think they can make something entertaining from the streams and spamming Apex probably doesn't help.

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Jesus Christ, I take one nap and come back to this fucking mess. I’ll be back tomorrow when the raid’s over and the Japs go back to sleep.

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>>50796133
Take care, be glad you missed this shit show

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>>50795884
Not sure but it's hard to believe that nobody wants to work with her.
A new editor would definitely be a good thing, especially if it includes translations.

>> No.50796563

>>50796258
Well, she does have a rather large audience. That's a double edged sword, because while it can be something good if everything aligns, if they don't think they can do their best work with the content, then it's more likely to damage their career. Also JP memes don't really overlap with EN ones, so it might be hard to appeal to both (since she really wants to appeal to the kaigai bros)

>> No.50797266

>>50796563
It can't be that bad right?
Soju seems to be able to make some decent quality clips.

>> No.50797292

Cover is a black company

>> No.50797352

Hey fellow anons, Bear here, and I just wanted to drop in and share some thoughts about VShojo.

Lately, I've been noticing some concerning trends surrounding VShojo, and it's time we talk about it. For those of you who don't know, VShojo is a talent agency that represents a group of VTubers. While they may seem like a fun and entertaining group at first glance, there's more than meets the eye.

One of the primary issues I have with VShojo is their business practices, which resemble those of a black company. A black company, for those unfamiliar, refers to a company that prioritizes profit over the well-being of its employees, often engaging in exploitative practices. And I believe VShojo falls into this category.

Firstly, let's talk about their contracts. It seems that VShojo imposes strict and unfair terms on their talents. Many reports have surfaced suggesting that the VTubers under their management are tied down with long-term contracts, limiting their freedom and potentially hindering their growth as independent content creators. This sort of control over their talents feels more like an oppressive regime rather than a supportive agency.

Furthermore, there have been numerous allegations of poor working conditions within VShojo. The VTubers are allegedly subjected to excessive hours, grueling schedules, and little to no time off. This kind of overworking can take a severe toll on mental and physical health. It's heartbreaking to think that these entertainers, who bring joy to many, are potentially suffering behind the scenes due to the company's demands.

Moreover, VShojo's revenue sharing model has come under scrutiny. It's been suggested that the company takes a significant cut from the VTubers' earnings, leaving them with a mere fraction of what they actually make. This is yet another indication of the company's exploitative nature, prioritizing profit at the expense of their talents.

Now, I don't want to completely write off VShojo. They do have some talented VTubers who deserve recognition for their hard work and dedication. But it's crucial to acknowledge the concerning aspects of the company and push for change.

So, my fellow anons, let's keep a watchful eye on VShojo and any other talent agency that engages in similar practices. It's important to support content creators directly whenever possible, as this helps them maintain creative control and a fair share of the profits. Remember, we're here to enjoy and appreciate the content they produce, but we must also prioritize their well-being.

Stay vigilant and spread the word. Together, we can encourage positive change and ensure a fair and supportive environment for all VTubers.

#VShojo #BlackCompanyTactics #SupportVTubers

>> No.50797383

>>50797352
Thanks ChatGPT

>> No.50797966

>>50797292
Based

>> No.50798206

>>50795778
Henya has the massive buff of being able to speak English. Henya streams at good American times too, so part of me doubts she's even intending to target a JP audience.
According to a stats website I use to track numbers, there's only 200k Japanese people watching Twitch at a time. Do you understand how tiny that number is?
VShojo is too late on the "getting new members" boat. It's been a year and their JP branch has three members, and one is marketed as a hybrid. VShojo's JP President outright admitted that they're only interested in pouching established talents for the time being.

>> No.50798437

>>50798206
The anon I was talking to specifically pointed out western viewers. I do agree with you that Twitch, as it is right now, is a debuff for Nazuna.
>VShojo is too late on the "getting new members" boat.
1 year is not much imo. They should have had a bigger starting roster but I don't think it's too late.

>> No.50798521

>>50798206
tbf someone like her has the ability to get a good share of that 200k

>> No.50798571

>>50798437
I don't think Nazuna even cares too much about her Twitch CCV either.
I know she occassionally asks us to Retweet the stream (which I don't do if it's Apex) but she doesn't seem very bothered about how she's obviously nerfing herself. And then you see how much effort she puts into Mikeneko stuff and it's pretty clear
>1 year is not much imo.
It's pretty huge. Feels like a year of Nazuna's life wasted on a dead end company. Would have been better just staying indie.
If the Genshin/Pokemon incidents had never happened, we'd probably be enjoying regular fun and varied gaming Mikeneko YouTube streams right about now

>> No.50798596

>>50798521
Junfags, FPS lovers, and other fleshtuber fans aren't going to watch her.

>> No.50799196

Why can’t Nazuna and Henya have a collab? It would be the ultimate CGDCT experience

>> No.50799521

Nazuner maikura is peak content

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She is coming.

>> No.50800063

>>50799720
What is coming?

>> No.50800098

>>50800063
don't ask he is just a coomer

>> No.50800118

>>50800063
Makeship Nazuna plush

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>>50800063

>> No.50800224

>>50800133
I can never help but notice that the stomach is "censored".

>> No.50800530

Yeah, I'm gonna take my bear to the old town road
I'm gonna ride 'til I can't no more
I'm gonna take my bear to the old town road
I'm gonna ride (Kio, Kio) 'til I can't no more
I got the bears in the back
Bear tack is attached
Hat is matte black
Got the boots that's black to match
Riding on a bear, ha
You can whip your Porsche
I been in the valley
You ain't been up off the porch, now

>> No.50800780

>>50798571
>It's pretty huge.
It's really not. For comparison look at Hololive, the last debut they had was in 2021.
Like I said the real issue was that they started out with only two members, which is something they seem to be fixing now.
And it's not like she's a complete failure as Nazuna either, drawing in some western audience and her debut did put her in the spotlight for a while.
Although I do think that she would do much better on Youtube. I really wonder where that restriction could come from

>> No.50800895

>>50800780
>the last debut they had was in 2021.
That's because they already have about 30 JP members alone. They've likely reached a decent saturation whereby adding more members would only start to take away from the other girls
Sure, the very very beginning of Hololive was slow because it was literally uncharted waters. But within the first year of Hololive, they had already debuted 12 members. And keep in mind that there's basically no reason for the Japanese to watch VShojo when there's so much more competition nowadays.

>> No.50801018

>>50800780
one year is a huge amount of time to go from two members to three with only vague promises of more to come
fag

>> No.50801303

>>50800895
7 September 2017 Tokino Sora
4 March 2018 Roboco
13 May 2018 6 new members
That's nearly a year before they picked up steam too. And there was not as much competition then as you say.

>>50801018
I said they should have had more members at the start. Retard.

>> No.50801404

>>50801303
You're missing Gen 2 debuting from August to September 2018.
By the year mark, they had just around 11 members. Meanwhile, VShojoJP will be lucky to have 4 members after a year and a half

>> No.50801770

>>50801404
My point was that it took Hololive nearly a year to get a good start in a less competitive environment, that's why I cut it off there. I don't think Vshojo will grow as large as Hololive but it could still end up as a boon for Nazuna.
>VShojoJP will be lucky to have 4 members after a year and a half
They're about a year old and started to grow now.
I think that's a positive trend if it ends up helping Nazuna too.

>> No.50801815

>>50801404
It’s a bit harder to poach than debut what back then were literal whos. Remember that vsj is more of a union of already established talent than a traditional corpo. I don’t think the right business model would be to employ a group of whos that can stroke Nazuna’s ego and get paid to be her friend

>> No.50801829

>>50801770
VShojo is a massive nerf to Nazuna. The Nazuna only fans don't have any interest with interacting with Mikeneko, which is an issue because that's actually the best way to support her.
Twitch takes 50% from donos. Meanwhile, I think Twitcast only takes 20% and YouTube only takes 30%. Fanbox's rates are also pretty good. Even if Nazuna was growing (she isn't), it's a very inefficient way to support her.
The VShojo brand is also toxic. There's too much of an "anti-gachikoi" reputation around it. Casual fans will assume that Nazuna is also anti-gachikoi and refuse to watch her. The majority of her potential fans are also Hololive fans, who see VShojo as standing against what they want in a Vtuber. Despite her faults, Nazuna is still far closer to a Holo than to the "typical" VShojo girl.

>> No.50801863

>>50801815
Wasn't Froot a literal who when she debuted and now she's a solid 4view?
Besides, anyone with even half a brain has already checked out of VShojo's "situation". The only thing that matters is realising that defending such a retarded company is absolutely pointless and that the best move for her is getting away from it, even if it's just to end up as an indie again. You've already seen how she has no issues handling merch and VShojo gets her 0 sponsors, so there will be basically no difference after leaving besides getting rid of that quota and her general mood likely getting better.

>> No.50801908

>>50801863
I don’t know, I just feel part of the vsj family now. I can’t bring myself to hate them.

>> No.50801945

>>50801908
I'm not saying you should hate them. I'm saying that you should support Nazuna with whatever good decisions she makes or wants to make
>family
They don't speak the same language as her. They don't mean harm, but Nazuna is sort of more like a pet than an actual member of the family. And she barely even interacts with them.
Hell, she barely interacts with us during some of her streams.

>> No.50802045

>>50801945
Well guy from here. They try to include her nowadays a lot. Froot actually said yesterday that Nazuna agreed to do a cover of song with her. It's not gonna be soon though, did not seem like they began yet. From nazuna's streams I also got the impression that nazuna herself tries to slowly get closer to them. so things become better on that front?

>> No.50802062

>>50801945
I would get sad if she left because it would mean burning the bridge with k-chan (her only real friend) and I have hope that the JP branch will work out in the end and that Nazuna will finally be happy streaming as ”Rushia” again which is what she wanted the entire time. She doesn’t want to be Mikeneko. She wants to have the kayfabe wall between her and her audience which allows her to be her best self

>> No.50802066

>>50802045 (me)
guy from vsj+*, my bad

>> No.50802222

>>50802062
you don't know shit tourist-chama

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>>50801829
I don't know the details of Youtube vs Twitch but from a quick google search it seems like Twitch is very competitive to Youtube when you're already a large content creator.
Anyway, from what I know it's not even Vshojo that's restricting her to Twitch. I do wonder if it's possible that this restriction at some point gets removed though.

I can see your point on anti-gachikoi sentimentality but even Hololive EN is plagued by it so I don't think the issue here is really Vshojo,.
I guess it really depends on who VshojoJP gets now and if they can click with Nazuna more than anything.

I think my current opinion is pretty much this
>>50801945
If she stays then fans should hope that VshojoJP thrives and there are some signs it's improving right now so doomposting right now doesn't help her.
And if she quits then we should stay as amicable as she is at least so it doesn't make a bad impression for any future chances she may have.

>> No.50802420

>>50802062
I'd be worried about her burning the bridge with Kson if I thought Kson was a good influence on her at all. But all I see is Kson encouraging mistake
>she doesn't want to be Mikeneko
She hates being Nazuna more. She was talking about wanting to reincarnate several times as Mikeneko after having already debuted as Nazuna.

>> No.50802514 [DELETED] 

Why are people so against her having female friends? Do you all want her to play more apex with her expat boyfriend?

>> No.50802525

>>50802392
>there are some signs it's improving right n
Nazuna's CCV is slowly dropping, she's getting no promotion, she isn't even getting any sponsorships and the only one in recent history fell through for some reason (going off of Nazuna's public Tweets around March)
The JP branch is doing a tiny bit better provided you completely ignore Nazuna.

>> No.50802707

>>50802392
>I guess it really depends on who VshojoJP gets now and if they can click with Nazuna more than anything.
Mirai Akari is basically confirmed and, going off of that English stream that Nazuna missed, is somehow more vulgar than Kson. I don't think they'll be a good fit.

>> No.50802999

>>50802525
>Nazuna's CCV is slowly dropping
Yeah but that may be reversible. She already gained more followers lately than she did before.
I think that could improve more if she would collab with Henya.

>she's getting no promotion
Not enough but at least there's the upcoming maid event.

>she isn't even getting any sponsorships
Vshojo seems to struggle with that in general. I think that's part of why the 3 EN members left.
Hopefully they can improve in that regard somehow.


>The JP branch is doing a tiny bit better provided you completely ignore Nazuna.
For now but I think that grow could help Nazuna too.


>>50802707
I don't know Mirai Akari so dunno.
Henya seems like she could get along with Nazuna in my opinion.
Sometimes the most unlikely people click so only time will tell.

>> No.50803148

>>50802525
>Nazuna's CCV is slowly dropping
Nazuna's CCU has been stable at 2k for a long time now, and that's with no pre-stream announcements. She can hit 2.5k without raids when she is streaming at times when either most of the US or most of EU is awake, and can get 3k+ if she happens to be doing something interesting. Plus she retains raids pretty well from the other VSJ girls (+ Silver). Still a far cry from her Youtube numbers but it's on par with her public twitcasts
>she's getting no promotion
What promotion should she be getting? They still push her clips on main, and do the spotlights about as often as the rest. She barely promoted her own outfit reveal.
No idea about sponsorships, definitely VSJ needs to step that up across the board.
>The JP branch is doing a tiny bit better provided you completely ignore Nazuna.
New members is a good thing, and hers and Kson's Nenderoid should be going into preorders soon, which should be a good paycheck for her assuming it sells well. If she has legit plans for her Anniversary that's also a great opportunity for a buffed second wind.

>> No.50803162

>>50802999
>Not enough but at least there's the upcoming maid event
The photo of that event was taken and Nazuna was the only VShojo not in it. Either as "herself" or as Nazuna.
>Hopefully they can improve in that regard somehow.
Doubt it
>I think that could improve more if she would collab with Henya.
I don't even really agree with her logic, but there's honestly a decent chance that the EOP Nazuna fans would just start watching Henya if they collab.
>Mirai Akari
Her and Kson were talking about that NND meme about fucking your girlfriend up the ass to "discipline" her during that stream. They also had no problem using Taishi as an example of a man to flirt with

>> No.50803240

>>50803148
>Nazuna's CCV has been stable at 2k for a long time now
Meanwhile, Mikeneko's last stream peaked at about 5.3K. Nazuna hasn't hit 3k by herself in months, don't kid yourself.

>> No.50803275

>>50803148
>Nazuna's CCU has been stable at 2k for a long time now
Her average in April was 2.3K, her average in May 2.1K, her average this month 1.9K. This is the former Uruha Rushia, might I need to remind you.

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>>50803162
>The photo of that event was taken and Nazuna was the only VShojo not in it. Either as "herself" or as Nazuna.
I don't know what you're talking about. I meant pic related.

>Doubt it
That's fair.

>I don't even really agree with her logic, but there's honestly a decent chance that the EOP Nazuna fans would just start watching Henya if they collab.
That's very pessimistic and as far as I know it's almost always beneficial for both sides to collab, especially for long term growth.

>> No.50803961

>>50803804
He is talking about this https://twitter.com/ironmouse/status/1658688468657254401.. Not just a photo but they were recording.
It's important to keep in mind that it happened when nazuna isolated herself from everyone. Henya could not reach out to her, neither could kson or zen. Not through messages, manager or her stream

>> No.50804076

>>50803162
>I don't even really agree with her logic, but there's honestly a decent chance that the EOP Nazuna fans would just start watching Henya if they collab.
This doesn't make sense to me. They aren't really similar content at all. If the sole reason they leave her is because Henya speaks better English then why wouldn't they go to one of the other million english speaking streamers. If they have good chemistry, it can only be a net positive for both, especially if Nazuna wants to stream later in the day and Henya keeps streaming 9 to 5 jp time.

>> No.50804150

>>50803961
Nazuna is on the promotional material and maybe she just didn't feel good for that event.

>> No.50804218

>>50804150
I think it's separate events, that just happens to both be maid related. One is for Offkai (which the promos are for), the other is for a video that Hime's grandmother is producing (she like's going to theme cafes and making videos).

>> No.50804247

>>50803804
>I meant pic related.
They're using her to advertise VShojo sponsoring the OffKai Vtuber event. She isn't taking part in it at all. A few of the other VShojo girls are going to that convention, but it's in American and Nazuna 100% has no participation in it.

>> No.50804282

>>50804247
Showing her face and name is promotion, no matter how you try to slice it.

>> No.50804345

>>50804282
I don't see her name on that poster.

>> No.50804403

>>50802707
that dickson shit in the collab was painful to watch

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The thread is shittier than usual.
But that doesn't stop me from loving my wife.

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>>50804345
Look at her chest.

>> No.50804568

>>50804519
>first name only
>barely legible
>at an EN only convention
Yes, I'm sure that will drive viewers to her streams.

>> No.50805046

>>50804568
>they didn't even have to promote her for this event if she doesn't participate but still did it anyway
>her name is visible / readable enough unless you need glasses
Maybe they could have added their full names too but now you're just nitpicking.

Look at twitter comments for instance, they seem to love it. Of course, just that isn't enough and they should do more to promote it but it's not "nothing".

>> No.50805153

>>50805046
>>they didn't even have to promote her for this event if she doesn't participate but still did it anyway
In my eyes, it's moreso that VShojo are taking advantage of her already existing image/fame to market their own sponsorship of an event that has nothing to do with her. If anything, VShojo should be grateful that the former Uruha Rushia is currently stuck with their incompetent asses.

>> No.50805636

>>50805153
Well maybe that's your view but objectively it did promote her.

>> No.50805779

>>50805636
It's not even the event. It's just promo art. We still don't know what the event will look like, though for the Senpai Squad partnerships they hired cosplayers. So perhaps we will see VSJ cosplayers in maid outfits.

>> No.50805989

>>50805636
It really didn't.
And the event is halfway through June, is it? If it was a few weeks later, it would have been kind of funny

>> No.50806204

Nazuna should play more APEX soon

>> No.50806232

>>50806204
No

>> No.50806257

>>50805989
>If it was a few weeks later, it would have been kind of funny
Because she's leaving?

>> No.50806263

>>50806232
Yes, she needs to improve soon, otherwise her nemesis will beat her

>> No.50806290

>>50806204
Nazuna should reduce the amount of Apex she plays and go ahead and announce that she isn't renewing her contract with Vshojo.

>> No.50806421

>>50806290
Nazuna should quit VShojo and celebrate by doing a 24 hours APEX stream

>> No.50806552

>>50806421
I'd prefer her to play literally any other game
I'd even take watching actual paint dry alongside her instead of Apex

>> No.50806610

>>50806552
That's because you still don't understand APEX's appeal
If Nazuna gets better at APEX the stream will be more fun to watch, this will increase her numbers.
Nazuna should practice and stream more APEX.

>> No.50806630

>>50806610
go back to 5ch

>> No.50806709

>>50806630
You have no argument because you know I'm right, the only way for Nazuna to regain her lost glory is by improving at APEX.

>> No.50806796

>>50806610
There is no appeal to Apex.
She stops interacting with chat. She whines about wanting to be carried. It's led her to breaking her promises multiple times.
She nearly lost some of her biggest donators (again) because she was lying so much about Apex. The only people celebrating it are 5ch ironically, or the JP fans who have literally no opinions because they're all affirming cheating whores.

>> No.50806835

>>50806709
Her former glory was Rushia and Rushia barely played Apex. Try again, you cock sucking autistic faggot.

>> No.50806916

>>50806796
>She stops interacting with chat. She whines about wanting to be carried. It's led her to breaking her promises multiple times.
These issues would go away if she became good at APEX.
She wouldn't need to stop interacting with chat because she'd be good enough to juggle both the game and interactions at the same time.
She wouldn't need to be carried because she'd be the one doing the carrying.
She wouldn't need to break her promises because there wouldn't be a need to play with her friends.
Improving at APEX is the only way forward for her.

>> No.50807012

>>50806916
Impossible, she isn't a teenager who can dedicate 8-14 hours a day to reach that level. It's an addiction that brings the worst out of her, regardless of her skill level. So just fuck off already. It

>> No.50807054

>>50807012
She's still young and beautiful, if she tries hard enough she can do definitely do it.

>> No.50807074

>>50806916
She'll never get that good.
She's put hundreds of hours in and she's barely Silver rank
Why bother putting thousands of hours into a game a decent portion of her fans dislike when she could do literally anything else.
There's also no reason to get better when she's already promised to never join a tournament. There's no payoff for all of that effort

>> No.50807154

>>50807054
No, she isn't young enough for a career in FPS and looks have nothing to do with it. If you try hard enough you can stop being your parents' biggest disgrace but here you are.

>> No.50807185

>>50807074
It's sad that you don't believe in her.
She obviously wants to get better at APEX, and yet her fans just spit in her face and tell her to quit.
Even if she doesn't join tournaments, I believe that having a goal to work towards will improve the quality of her streams, becoming good at APEX will make her happy.

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>> No.50807323

>>50807185
>She obviously wants to get better at APEX
If she did, she'd get a female coach or something and actually work on her fundamentals. She'd aim to improve rather than just grinding rank for a few weeks before putting the game down for an entire month and repeating this again and again
>improve the quality of her streams
Not playing APEX would be the first step

>> No.50807419

>>50807323
>If she did, she'd get a female coach or something and actually work on her fundamentals. She'd aim to improve rather than just grinding rank for a few weeks before putting the game down for an entire month and repeating this again and again
and that's why I'm saying she should dedicate herself to improving at APEX, it would be good content, and people love watching a newbie try her hardest to improve and succeeding, APEX will help her channel.

>> No.50807524

>>50807419
Or just not play APEX
Literally just go and watch a different VTuber at this point. Is she even any better than she was back as Rushia when she streamed the game a year and a half ago?

>> No.50807579

>>50807524
>encouraging fans to stop watching Nazuna
that's just anti behavior, please don't do that.

>> No.50807635

>>50807579
At this point, encouraging her to play more APEX is anti behaviour.
The audience who likes APEX are typically not gachikoi

>> No.50807670

Both Apex and Vshojo are number poison.

>> No.50807788

>>50807579
You're not a fan of her. You're just an APEX fan

>> No.50807794

>>50807419
APEX is a dead game and nobody wants to watch a noob, esp. if all they do is cry.

>> No.50807901

Mike would be sad if she saw this thread and how her fans are acting.
I will support her endeavors and will trust her to keep her words.
If she enjoys APEX and wants to play APEX then that's fine.

>> No.50807996

>>50807901
I'm allowed to have an opinion on something and my opinion is Apex sucks my greasy balls and I don't want her to waste time playing that garbage when she could be playing something better. Every Apex stream is a wasted slot.

>> No.50808060

>>50807901
No, it will kill her in the long run. Fans shouldn't encourage self-destruction that's what antis (you) want. She should see the thread. She desperately needs an intervention.

>> No.50808162

APEX is a great game that stabilizes her spirit.
To oppose a game she enjoys so much is as annoying as Daisuke.

>> No.50808169

>>50807901
Apex has contributed to almost every single negative incident in her career.

>> No.50808221

>>50808162
APEX always puts her in a bad mood, it destabilizes her spirit more than anything else.

>> No.50808244

>>50808162
Go back to sucking that schizo's cock on 5chan. You and him should both kill yourselves.

>> No.50808278

>>50808169
Her lying and her shitty "friends" were the reason for her incidents
She has already apologized, why not trust her?

>> No.50808334

>>50808278
APEX is as garbage as her "friends" and only harms her career.

>> No.50808352

>>50808162
She doesn't enjoy it. It's an addiciton. That's like giving alcohol to an alcolohic, or drugs to a drug addict.

>> No.50808426

Reminder that all 5ch posters are poor homosexual losers.

>> No.50808471

Being anti-APEX here is her biggest enemy. Because the more you oppose her, the more she will not quit APEX. Do not be fooled. Wish her to play APEX more, she will feel guilty and reduce. If you guys really hate APEX, use your brains.

>> No.50808480

I trust my wife to keep her word

>> No.50808493

>>50808471
APEX is bad and you are gay.

>> No.50808573

Do you want to deliver APEX or do APEX with a male friend and not deliver?
The APEX antis who want the latter must be NTR lovers.

>> No.50808617

>>50808573
APEX is bad and you are homosexual.

>> No.50808699

>>50808617
You are the true homosexual. If she delivers APEX, you will be tired and will not have time to have APEX with your male friends. If the antagonist disagrees, she will have time to have APEX with her male friends. Be cool and use your head to oppose her.

>> No.50808709

>>50808699
Apex is bad and you have sex with men.

>> No.50808716

>>50808471
>>50808573
Neither, she just needs to quit Apex all together, only then she can begin to heal. All-affirming has lead to no good, wake up and learn to speak your mind.

>> No.50808748

>>50808699
APEX is a bad game and you are gay.

>> No.50808788

>>50808699
>if she drinks alcohol on stream then she wont drink off-stream
You are the one that needs to use your head for once.

>> No.50808821

If she delivers the APEX she loves for a long time, she will have less time to play with her male friends.

If she delivers a game she doesn't like for a short time, she has more time to play with her male friends.

Please think calmly which is better.
Allowing APEX is naturally better.

>> No.50808850

>>50808821
5ch posters are penniless homosexuals.

>> No.50808877

>>50808821
>delivers
At least make it more subtle.

>> No.50808904

>>50808821
Why do you keep ignoring every post that has already crushed your invalid argument?

>> No.50808934

>>50808821
You will die alone in your tiny apartment and will only be discovered when your neighbors complain about the stench, 5ch-san.

>> No.50808958

Minato Aqua's APEX was very popular today.
APEX is a great game.

>> No.50808968

>>50808958
APEX is as shitty and homosexual as 5ch posters.

>> No.50809048

>>50808278
She hasn't gotten rid of all of her shitty friends yet

>> No.50809070

>>50808968
There are no rumors that Minato Aqua is playing APEX with male friends. Please believe Nazona as well.

>> No.50809074

>>50808573
False dichotomy

>> No.50809112

>>50809070
There are confirmed reports of you being fucked by men and having no money or friends.

>> No.50809166

The point of streaming is to play games that your fans want to watch
A large amount of her fans hate APEX and avoid watching those streams

>> No.50809219

She cannot play with her male friends while she is delivering APEX. I will continue to support the ideal and healthy APEX.

>> No.50809254

>>50809219
5ch posters are penniless homosexual losers.

>> No.50809292

>>50809166
There is no significant difference in the number of viewers between APEX and other games. Akihaven and Quicks are also pleased. If you have a problem with them, you should start paying more to her than to them.

>> No.50809356

>>50809292
5chan posters are homosexual retards who cannot spell names correctly.

>> No.50809467

I am very happy to continue to deliver the APEX she loves.

>> No.50809486

>>50809467
You allow men to fuck you.

>> No.50809536

>>50809467
Japanese women prefer foreign men because Japanese men are disgusting.

>> No.50809575

Better to be fucked then not, Mike agrees too

>> No.50809601

>>50809219
Or she can stream any other game

>> No.50809626

>>50809575
Thank you for finally admitting that you have sex with men. It's understandable, since Japanese men are not desired by women.

>> No.50809716

I am more concerned about the hairdresser who is pestering her than APEX. And I also wonder if she really doesn't like it.

>> No.50809758

>>50809716
You are jealous because you want to have sex with that hairdresser.

>> No.50809778

Please wait at least for these retards to go to bed before making a new thread.

>> No.50809797

I'm glad 5ch posters are finally admitting that they are homosexual.

>> No.50809844

>>50809797
All of the good Japanese men died in the wars

>> No.50809846

I have a feeling she doesn't think she dislikes hairdressers that much. I get a different vibe from Daisuke.

>> No.50809874

>>50809846
She's a woman, so she is not interested in Japanese men in the first place.

>> No.50809917

I want Rushia to come back.

>> No.50809958

>>50809917
THE ONLY WAY IS TO BURN COVER DOWN

>> No.50809980

The hairdresser will be 100% interested only in her body.

>> No.50809981

>>50807419
Massive retard. You're doing a bad faith argument because you don't believe anything of what you're saying. APEX haven't help her in channel in a year, it haven't help her career or her mental health or the relation with her fans.

>> No.50810020

>>50809980
Women do not find Japanese men attractive.

>> No.50810249

Anyway, APEX is a great game, and thanks to APEX, VTuber culture has grown a lot. Shibuya Hal is a god.

>> No.50810265

>>50810249
The rate of virginity among Japanese men is embarrassingly high. Women do not want them.

>> No.50810419

I wish you had joined Vsupo instead of Vshojo and had fun playing APEX every day, Vsupo would have had no antis.

>> No.50810498

>>50810419
Japanese men are the cuckolds of the world. Women everywhere laugh at them.

>> No.50810567

5ch fuckheads, i'll make this one simple for you. We don't use delivers or delivered or delivering. We use stream. Fucking use it for god sake.

>> No.50810649

We here on 4ch always use deliver and do not use stream. Please continue using delivery.

>> No.50810695

Why all the jp men gay cuckolds, though?

>> No.50810777

Is her ASMR available yet?

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