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>> No.50735872
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.50735892

>>50735598
Numberbros explain this to me.
Raid messes up the peak so how do you guys make use of the peak correctly?

>> No.50735901

>>50735824
EN3, its obvious that half of myth will be gone affer their current contract. They don't give a shit anymore. Kronii will also probably be gone and Mumei is on life support. They need new girls.

>> No.50735900

>14,311: Ironmouse (Vshojo)
>10,955: Kiara (Hololive)
>7,290: Ina (Hololive)
>6,465: Fauna(Hololive)

PER COMPANY
>0x Hololive
>0x Nijisanji
>1x Vshojo
>0x Mythic
>0x Indie

*EN TWITCH/YOUTUBE TALLY W/ TWITCH DEBUFF [Twitch avg vs YT peak] (06/03)*
>11,134; Ironmouse (Vshojo)
>10,955: Kiara(Hololive)
>7,290:Ina (Hololive)
>6,465: Fauna(Hololive)

PER COMPANY
>0x Hololive
>0x Nijisanji
>1x Vshojo
>0x Mythic
>0x Indie.

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>>50735834
Recent clip numbers
>>50684048
>>50684081
>>50684110
>>50684148
>>50684180

>> No.50735932

People will keep making “my cute shark wife” threads and people will still reply. This proves that Gura is still the top vtuber in all existence.

>> No.50735944

>>50735901
Less girls means more people to watch the boys.

>> No.50735965

That UMP45 1/7 scale figure is so tempting, but I've already so much on discretionary spending. Ah...

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50735967

>Same game

>> No.50735975
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* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>55,592: Chiroru (Indie)
>43,527: ChroNoiR (Nijisanji)
>36,408: Suisei (Hololive)
>35,067: Marine (Hololive)
>26,866: Pekora (Hololive)
>26,438: Koyori (Hololive)
>22,523: Subaru (Hololive)
>20,421: Watame (Hololive)
>20,273: Miko (Hololive)
>17,609: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>16,687: Lui (Hololive)
>16,395: Ito Life (Indie)
>15,776: Okayu (Hololive)
>15,559: Koyori (Hololive)
>15,122: Korone (Hololive)
>14,807: Lize (Nijisanji)
>14,484: Towa (Hololive)
>12,948: Ange (Nijisanji)
>12,261: Nui (Nijisanji)
>12,188: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>11,260: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>11,052: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,867: Ratna (Nijisanji)
>10,769: Botan (Hololive)
>10,512: Yashiro (Nijisanji)

>> No.50736003

>>50735967
I love happy endings

>> No.50736004

>>50735892
Tallyanon simply uses the raid peak if it's highest. Similarly the raspberry tally counts them as it's not beneficial for those who aspire to the much coveted raspberry gold.

>> No.50736017
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>>50735975
>JUNE 2023 GOLDS
1) Aki (Hololive) - 76,042 - Anniversary 3D Live
2) Beni (VSPO) - 74,883 - 3D Debut
3) Chiroru (Indie) - 55,592 - Hanshin Tigers vs Chiba Lotte Marines Watchalong

>PER COMPANY
1x: Hololive, Indie, VSPO

>PER STREAMER
1x: Aki, Beni, Chiroru

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
117x: Hololive
24x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie
4x: Neo Porte
3x: VSPO

>PER STREAMER
42x: Pekora
15x: Miko
13x: Marine
7x: Subaru
6x: Toya
4x: Hal
3x: Chiroru, Hololive, Kuzuha, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Koyori, Towa
2x: Aki, Iroha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Salome
1x: Aqua, Ayame, Beni, Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Hibari, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Korone, Laplus, Lui, Mel, Mito, Mori, Nose, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Roco, Ryushen, Shion, Ui, Watame, Yashiro

>> No.50736032

>>50736003
cuck

>> No.50736055

I have wife, watch gfe vtuber and hate homo, does that make me an incel?

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>>50735944
>more people to watch the boys
I watch Koyo stream and HoloJP clips instead

>> No.50736089

>>50736057
>people would rather watch a girl squeak in a language they don't understand than watch StarsEN.

>> No.50736091
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50736091

*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY*

>6/3 DAILY TALLY
8,010: Fauna (Hololive)
6,367: Enna (Nijisanji)
5,432: Ina (Hololive)
5,406: Baelz (Hololive)

>EN GOLDS FOR JUNE 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 6,456 - Unarchived Karaoke
2) Shu (Nijisanji) - 8,671 - Mojipittan Encore (w/ Petra, Sonny, Oliver)
3) Fauna (Hololive) - 8,010 - Amanda the Adventurer

>PER COMPANY
2x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
1x: Baelz, Fauna, Shu

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
6p: Fauna
5p: Baelz, Shu
4p: Ina
3p: Enna, Kronii

>> No.50736096

>>50736055
No, you're filthy brown seamonkey

>> No.50736097
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50736097

Reminder that these are the new First Army members.

>> No.50736139

>>50735901
Kronii is a lazy piece of shit who by her own admission, can barely hold down a job as a cashier or waitress. You're delusional if you think she's giving up easy money.

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>>50736091
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
113x: Hololive
39x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
16x: Mori
14x: Fauna, IRyS
12x: Baelz
11x: Gura, Mumei
10x: Ina, Kronii
9x: Vox
8x: Amelia
6x: Kiara
5x: Mysta
4x: Selen, Shu
3x: Pomu
2x: Finana, Luca
1x: Alban, Enna, Elira, Flayon, Fulgur, Hololive English, Ike, Luxiem, Millie, Regis, Ren, Rosemi, Sonny

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
148p: Fauna
120p: Ina
117p: IRyS
114p: Mori
105p: Baelz
103p: Mumei
74p: Vox
68p: Kronii
61p: Amelia
60p: Kiara
55p: Gura
53p: Mysta
43p: Luca
32p: Shu
31p: Selen
17p: Pomu
15p: Enna
14p: Ike
13p: Finana
11p: Axel, Sonny, Uki
10p: Elira
9p: Fulgur, Millie
7p: Regis
6p: Ren, Rosemi
5p: Alban, Flayon, Hololive English, Luxiem
4p: Vesper
3p: Bettel, Hakka, Kotoka, Magni
1p: Maria, Meloco, Nina, Shinri, Pippa

>> No.50736148

>>50735944
Surely that's how it'll play out!
I wish I had saved the chart of the homo 3D debuts during the overlap ban

>> No.50736161

>>50736017
I thought this was a video game gun and had to look it up. Apparently real, but only three examples ever made.

>> No.50736169

>>50736089
Yup, it's either Hololive or the streamers I watched before Hololive. (NTA)

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>>50736089
Yes

>> No.50736225

>>50736139
This. None of the ENs will willingly leave even if they hate the job and their fans. The money is just too good and too easy.

>> No.50736226

>>50736089
I'd rather watch gore videos than StarsEN.

>> No.50736241

>>50735944
If we terminated the girls then 100% of holofans will watch the boys.

>> No.50736243

>>50736055
Everyone who's not a sister is an INCEL
What's so hard to understand
Stop watching streams and clips. Read more threads

>> No.50736274

>>50736243
Should I go thank doujin merch producers?

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>>50736089
Yes

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>>50736161
The jackhammer is in so many video games precisely because it looks like a video game gun.

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>>50736097
Demote Subaru

>> No.50736356

>>50735901
au contraire. The ones who don't care are absolutely staying for the money.

>> No.50736403

stars streamed less today but you all still want to shit on them

>> No.50736404

>>50736089
>people would rather watch a girl squeak in a language they don't understand than watch StarsEN.
Still, Cover debuted 8 homos. Professional business decision that defies simple logic.

>> No.50736405

>>50736325
Isn't it the prototype gun that barely even exists?

>> No.50736440

>>50735944
I’ve literally started to go back because EN is that uninteresting nowadays. I even tried watching Tempus for a few weeks because their streams were actually more interesting than HoloEN for a brief moment after debut.
I literally just couldn’t care enough to keep it up more than a week or so before I began drifting to small corpos. I’m as close to someone who was open-minded about males as you can get. Most people will straight-up stop watching vtubers entirely before they watch males.

>> No.50736444

>>50736089
Yep cute breaks the language barrier how do you think people had fun before EN existed

>> No.50736448
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50736448

>>50736089
They would rather watch a waiting screen than watching any of the stars

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50736459

the correct standings

>> No.50736465

So two runts from Myth beats a big asmr collab from vox and ike? lol

>> No.50736470

>>50736345
What's with animosity

>> No.50736478

>>50736404
But homos are popular demands

>> No.50736489

>>50736089
if the homos did a playthrough half as entertaining as koyo dog's soulsborne playthroughs I would watch them

>> No.50736498

>>50736405
Yeah all guns produced are hand built and meant for trials. Only one left is now owned by a movie props company.

>> No.50736506

>>50736459
Promote azki

>> No.50736527

>>50736478
also health veggie

>> No.50736529

>>50736459
>no gura
she literally average 100k ccv without en cull retard

>> No.50736537

>>50736403
until EN3 debuts or the concert day comes, the homos will continue to get shit on

>> No.50736541

>>50736089
Yes. Is this supposed to be an own? The males offer so little that that is literally better. Believe it or not, everything the males do offer that’s appealing, fleshtubers already do.
The kind of brotuber I would watch would make content like northernlion or ludwig. Except people who make that kind of content already exist: their names are NorthernLion and Ludwig.

>> No.50736545

I'd rather watch Holostars over VShitshow or Phase

>> No.50736549

>>50735901
Girls people want to leave will never leave, like if a ENhomo graduates I'm going to celebrate right there in the open under the announcement but the chances of it happening are almost zero because fate is a bitch

>> No.50736561
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50736561

list of the graduated/hiatus chuubas post-2023

>Nunki https://twitter.com/nunki_dayo Graduated Febuary 26th
>Lilita LaPlume https://twitter.com/lilitapuff Graduated Febuary 29th
>ProjectHarune https://twitter.com/ProjectHarune Graduated March 20th
>TsunariVtuber https://twitter.com/TsunariVtuber Graduated April 2nd
>Elaine https://twitter.com/Elaine_KoMETA Graduated May 8th
>Wabyuu https://twitter.com/waabyuu Graduated May 20th
>Iekushi Chapipi https://twitter.com/IekushiChapipi Hiatus May 25th
>Blair Labri https://twitter.com/BlairLabri_NS Graduated May 26th
>Natsumi Moe https://twitter.com/vtuber_moe Retired May 30th

upcoming graduation/hiatus chuubas

>Miria https://twitter.com/Miria_KoMETA Graduating June 26th
>Virgil https://twitter.com/Virgil_KoMETA Graduating June 26th
>Ayane Hylo https://twitter.com/ayanehylo Graduating July 16th
>Miori Celesta https://twitter.com/mioricelesta Hiatus in June/July

>> No.50736563

>>50736459
Put Aqua in second army and it would be perfect

>> No.50736583

>>50736545
I just quit for the day and watch nonvtubing content

>> No.50736588
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50736588

Casually mogging holoen for over a year

>> No.50736603

>>50736444
>No, the gaijins are different. They obviously don't have toxic incel culture.

>> No.50736611

>>50736588
Not a Vtuber

>> No.50736628

>>50736563
It's not a smart move to shit on Aqua in June. Aqua will destroy anyone and everything. We all know it

>> No.50736653

>>50736628
Aqua is a hasbeen and I say this as a watamate.

>> No.50736661

>>50736545
I'd sooner watch nothing and do something else than any of those 3.

>> No.50736665

*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY*

>6/3 DAILY TALLY
9,876 Unnämed (Indie)
8,010: Fauna (Hololive)
6,367: Enna (Nijisanji)
5,432: Ina (Hololive)
5,406: Baelz (Hololive)

>EN GOLDS FOR JUNE 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 6,456 - Unarchived Karaoke
2) Shu (Nijisanji) - 8,671 - Mojipittan Encore (w/ Petra, Sonny, Oliver)
3) Unnämed (Indie) - 60,621 - Lore-Based Live Concert: Erased - Unnämed

>PER COMPANY
1x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
1x: Baelz, Shu, Unnämed

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
5p: Baelz, Shu, Unnämed
4p: Ina, Fauna
3p: Kronii
2p: Enna

>> No.50736685

>>50736541
will there ever be a male vtuber as good as northernlion & jerma

>> No.50736723

>>50736225
You’re forgetting something. The girls in question that hate it in EN are also menhera and not that bright. And phoning it in for so long, losing what little enthusiasm they originally had, only intensifies the menhera.
Kronii was dumb enough to own the gachis instead of just…slowing down with the male collabs and giving her fans the benefit of the doubt that they’re not schizos. You think she thinks things through?
I can easily see someone like Kronii quitting once they’ve made enough money, no longer able to take it and deluding themselves that they can make it outside of Hololive now. NotKronii would absolutely regret it and make a bunch of schizo tweets that get baitposted on the catalog, but it’s still very possible

>> No.50736733

>>50736685
It's not impossible, but the issue is those sorts of streamers just become flesh streamers. Why would they opt to be vtubers?

>> No.50736735

>>50736665
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
112x: Hololive
39x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
16x: Mori
14x: Fauna, IRyS
12x: Baelz
11x: Gura, Mumei
10x: Ina, Kronii
9x: Vox
8x: Amelia
6x: Kiara
5x: Mysta
4x: Selen, Shu
3x: Pomu
2x: Finana, Luca
1x: Alban, Enna, Elira, Flayon, Fulgur, Hololive English, Ike, Luxiem, Millie, Regis, Ren, Rosemi, Sonny, Unnämed

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
146p: Fauna
120p: Ina
117p: IRyS
114p: Mori
105p: Baelz
103p: Mumei
74p: Vox
68p: Kronii
61p: Amelia
60p: Kiara
55p: Gura
53p: Mysta
43p: Luca
32p: Shu
31p: Selen
17p: Pomu
14p: Ike
13p: Finana, Enna
11p: Axel, Sonny, Uki
10p: Elira
9p: Fulgur, Millie
7p: Regis
6p: Ren, Rosemi
5p: Alban, Flayon, Hololive English, Luxiem, Unnämed
4p: Vesper
3p: Bettel, Hakka, Kotoka, Magni
1p: Maria, Meloco, Nina, Shinri, Pippa

>> No.50736739

>>50736549
Don't go doom & gloom on us, anon. Join the GRIMgang today.
Enjoy the recline
Watch trainwrecks
Get hyped for next GRIMming

>> No.50736745

>>50736653
nta but what's the purpose of revealing your identity?

>> No.50736748

>>50736685
their old selves.
their older selves are better than who they are currently. especially jerma

>> No.50736757

>>50736603
This was always a cope made by people that want to feel superior, the problem of the EN fanbase was always ego and now everyone is divided while JPs just don't give a shit about not being "normal" and make the JP side more and more successful

>> No.50736773

>>50736745
Longterm plan to get Suisei terminated.

>> No.50736779 [DELETED] 
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My reddit studying of the homoposters continues, and isn't to a point I can post all the data yet since it's largely incomplete, but I'll share the emerging patterns in case anyone's curious. I count a homo poster as someone who's made a POST about or mentioning a Holostar, commenters remain unmarked since going through all the comment sections would be exhaustive but I might take a look at doing that after this study is done. I measure every post or comment made by a "homo poster" tagged person, measuring their engagement rather than how many of them there are.
>Homo posters make up an average of 28.4% of posts made
>In contrast, they are only an average of 17.4% of the posters who made it to "hot". This is regardless of WHAT they post, even if they post about one of the girls their posts are less likely to be upvoted
>They comment very little in average posts, only an average of 4.86% of comments made are theirs
>They don't even comment reliably in their own posts, ones made about the homos, sometimes they're not even present at all
>They are more likely to comment in posts made about "the community", notable "clout" JPs, posts involving ecelebs, and bizarrely to a lesser extent the girls who collab with them, in that order
>They make up a noticeably higher amount of the comments made in official posts, an average of 18.6% of comments made in those comments are theirs
>They are however VASTLY more likely to be present in official birthday and anniversary posts, making up a whopping 28.4% of comments made
>Homo posters often shill the homos streams, art, posts that link the homos with Holos who have not associated with them, and generally just make what I call "hype posts", posts that seem to indicate the poster wanted to talk about them to draw more attention to them but had nothing to actually say
>They also often take the streams done in the past with the homos and do "call backs" where they talk about how funny or interesting they were, even if the stream happened months ago
>The posts they make about the girls are very generally low quality clips, such as "lewd" clips and "clip watcher meme" clips
>They are also very likely to make up a large portion of the comments made in posts where the homos are likely to catch flak, usually running damage control for them and angrily telling others low effort twitter-isms like "touch grass"
>The girls posted do not seem to affect their comment numbers, Baelz has an average of 4.7%, below average, while Irys, someone who has publicly rebuffed them, has 4.5%
This largely confirms they don't care about Hololive, as seen in the difference in contents which they post about the girls vs guys as well as which posts they actively engage in. I only have around 150 posts logged right now but if anyone's curious about anything ask and I'll try to answer while I collect more data.

>> No.50736801 [DELETED] 

>>50736779
>My reddit studying of the homoposters

>> No.50736841

>>50736723
None of them are quitting until they have enough cash to NEET it up for the rest of their lives. Kronii might be dumb but she's not dumb enough to think she can land another 200k+ job in her lifetime

>> No.50736843

>>50736773
Can you teach me some 5d chess in your free time?

>> No.50736857
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50736857

HOLOLIVE BOARD
HOLOLIVE THREAD

>> No.50736886

>14,311: Ironmouse (Vshojo)
>10,955: Kiara (Hololive)
>7,290: Ina (Hololive)
>6,465: Fauna(Hololive)

PER COMPANY
>0x Hololive
>0x Nijisanji
>1x Vshojo
>0x Mythic
>0x Indie

*EN TWITCH/YOUTUBE TALLY W/ TWITCH DEBUFF [Twitch avg vs YT peak] (06/03)*
>11,134; Ironmouse (Vshojo)
>10,955: Kiara(Hololive)
>7,290:Ina (Hololive)
>6,465: Fauna(Hololive)

PER COMPANY
>0x Hololive
>0x Nijisanji
>1x Vshojo
>0x Mythic
>0x Indie.

>> No.50736897 [DELETED] 

>>50736779
>less than 30%
>/#/ claimed they took over the discussion

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50736921

>>50735834
I don't know why there's Umps in the catalog but good taste.

>> No.50736925 [DELETED] 

>>50736779
Keep up the good work

>> No.50736932
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50736932

all of the Nijis are tweeting out gay shit

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>>50736779
while at the same time more productive than most of this thread usually is, i feel like using your time on this aint it chief but you do you man.

>> No.50736964 [DELETED] 

>>50736779
Nothing about this surprises me

>> No.50736966

>>50736685
No, because they’ll all become fleshtubers instead. The only path to becoming a really successful male vtuber that we know of right now is pandering to yumes and fujos. To be a successful male EN vtuber without doing that would require all the same skills needed to be a successful fleshtuber. And going the fleshtuber route would yield a far greater ROI.
By definition, a male vtuber almost certainly lacks the skills to either entertain people or market themselves or both, because if they could do both, they would have succeeded as fleshtubers instead.

>> No.50736975
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>>50736932
>Not a single Holomem has even mentioned Fag month
Huge W for Hololive

>> No.50736978

>>50736089
I rather browse gore thread on gif or b than giving Tempus a view

>> No.50737042

>>50736975
flayon did it

>> No.50737072

We're going to see a lot of holomem break their fastest 1M views record this month.

>> No.50737081 [DELETED] 

Niji
>Celbrating and tweeting pride month
Holo
>trying to ignore and act innocence

Why are we supporting Hololive again? They are proof of scared incel on voicing their opinion

>> No.50737082

>>50737042
honorary niji nta

>> No.50737085

>>50737042
NTA, but Flayon isn't a Holomem

>> No.50737091

>>50737042
Flayon isn't a Holomem he's a homo

>> No.50737102

>>50737042
Flayon tweeted it? I thought he just read a comment from his chat.

>> No.50737158

>Miko P4G waiting room sub1k
>30 minutes away
Miko owakon? sub 20k stream?

>> No.50737164

>>50737042
>Go on his Twitter to check if this is true
>See this
https://twitter.com/machinaxflayon/status/1664028456059912193
I haven't been paying attention to the homos but is Flayon actually a faggot?

>> No.50737174

>>50736975
you say this but >we just had kiara and ame doing homo stuffs on stream

>> No.50737177

>>50737042
Anon clearly said holomem, not homos

>> No.50737187

>>50737042
stars aren't hololive

>> No.50737198

>>50736459
Replace Koyori with AZKi

>> No.50737205

>>50737174
lesbianism_not_as_bad.png

>> No.50737212 [DELETED] 

>>50736779
Holy autism GSH

CHAMMERS...;_;

>> No.50737237

>>50737164
Unironically does HRT. This is the guy Cover wanted to debut so badly they made a second generation for.

>> No.50737239

>>50737205
You can tame lesbians with the cock. Lesbianism in the absence of a male is acceptable.

>> No.50737247

>>50736757
I have a huge ego and want to show that I’m normal too. But that’s because I don’t believe you have to be a NEET or a hikki to enjoy cultured content. You can be a degen and function fine in society as long as you also have other interests and can figure out when to hide your power levels and when to let it all out.
That’s the problem with ENs. They confuse “revealing power levels time” with “containment breaking”.
I don’t care about male collabs when it’s someone like Bae who has a specific Stars member in mind who can add to her stream idea. Fuck, I don’t even mind the squad collabs because they genuinely do have chemistry. But apparently, since I think homobeggars are retards who probably don’t give a shit about the streams at all, apparently I’m a Nazi who thinks women should all be sex slaves.

>> No.50737249
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>>50737174
Yuri is fine

>> No.50737265

>>50737177
holomem
holopro member

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>>50737174

>> No.50737271

jinnytty is extending her taiwan walkathon by not actually walking, but by doing some sort of an event for the past 2 days.
viewership and length is more or less the same, so she might just continue her '80% done' walkathon indefinitely until god knows when

>> No.50737283

>>50737265
No

>> No.50737300

>>50737271
she gets money so why stop

>> No.50737308 [DELETED] 

>>50736779
TO THE CATALOGUE

>> No.50737320

>>50736611
first en vtuber

>> No.50737341

>>50737247
>I’m a Nazi who thinks women should all be sex slaves
FREE THE SLAVES, O' SUPER FREEDOM FIGHTER!!!

>> No.50737363

>>50737271
She should probably organize to walk across some other place

>> No.50737365

>>50736723
You're retarded. 90% of people hate their jobs. But they don't quit and they aren't making the kind of money Kronii is making simply by fucking existing.

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>>50737247
>apparently I’m a Nazi who thinks women should all be sex slaves.
Centrist babies first time dealing with the progressive left I guess. Answer is to become an unironic Nazi, if you're going to be called one you might as well make sure the shoe fits.

>> No.50737393 [DELETED] 

>>50736779
>exposes the faggots so hard he becomes one of them
based

>> No.50737423

Can a /#/bro particularly attuned to merch sales numbers help me narrow down something?

Do we have any estimate of sales numbers on Hololive x Weiss Schwarz packs/boxes? Whether we're talking volume or revenue doesn't really matter, I'm moreso curious what that kind of product even looks like relative to other forms of merch.

>> No.50737449 [DELETED] 

>>50736779
Keep up the autistic work anon. While leddit is only a subset of the holo community, knowing these parasites operate can help in identifying them elsewhere

>> No.50737473 [DELETED] 

>>50736779
Thank you anon, maybe autism isnt so bad.

>> No.50737480
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50737480

en gold 3 days in a row

>> No.50737481

>>50737423
No

>> No.50737486

>>50736948
It doesn't actually take that much time, surprisingly. 30 minutes a day at most, usually less.

>> No.50737496

>>50737423
All I can tell you is Suisei's card is fucking expensive

>> No.50737497 [DELETED] 

>>50736779
>They are however VASTLY more likely to be present in official birthday and anniversary posts, making up a whopping 28.4% of comments made
what did they even post on this kind of thread? like for example on Akirose recent anniversary(?),assuming reddit mod actually made a thread about it

>> No.50737506

>>50737423
I don't believe we have access to those numbers as they weren't sold through Cover's poorly secured online store.

>> No.50737510
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>>50737081
Hololive believes in Abe's legacy. Have sex and reproduce for the prosperity of NIHON!
Not have sex because you're a degenerate and want to mutilate your body to conform your mental illness.

>> No.50737563

>>50737506
And Cover nor Weiss Schwarz have ever touted sales numbers for Hololive cards in past communications or pitches? If so that's a bit of a shame.

>> No.50737567

>>50737497
Probably because it's low effort and requires no knowledge to pretend to care when the event is spelled out for you

>> No.50737585

>>50737496
Suisei holo-merch will be quite the collector's item after she graduates and commits suicide.

>> No.50737587
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50737587

Happy pride <3

>> No.50737610

>>50737497
My bet, they're unironic tourists. They don't watch most streams. They don't care about regular streams at all. A big event or HomoxHolo collab however and they crawl out from the cracks.

>> No.50737611

>>50723419
What does he mean by this?

>> No.50737622

>>50737320
Never has been
Never will be

>> No.50737629

>replying to the doxxnigger
Kill yourself

>> No.50737647

>>50737237
>flayon does HRT
But I heard anons say he's very feminine

>> No.50737649

>>50737423
The closest thing you can get would be to look at the parent company for Weiss Schwarz (BushiRoad) and look at their yearly financials. They do a breakdown of how each part of their businesses have been doing, and from last I saw, the weiss schwarz portion was doing really well.

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>> No.50737655

>>50737629
Who are you talking about?

>> No.50737675

>>50735901
People act like many of the early HoloJP members haven’t gone through long periods of no streaming. Look at gen 1 and 2. No one would be bitching (as much) if Cover had a debut schedule for EN that was similar to the first 6 gens of JP. We’d be sitting pretty at 20-25 girls and people like Gura and Kronii can fuck off for as long as they wish. It didn’t have to be like this, but clearly Cover thought we were really thirsting for da boiz.

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50737702

>>50736089
Yes

>> No.50737706
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50737706

This image still makes me feel things

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>>50737651
>barely grammatical ESL title
>150k views

>> No.50737746

>>50737563
It might be in bushiroad's financials, but I don't know if anyone /here/ has ever bothered to try reading through those as they're likely only available in Japanese. Even then I suspect they won't state how much profit the Hololive Weiss Schwarz collab separate to other profits they make.

>> No.50737747

>>50737706
she's literally dying

>> No.50737749

>>50737675
Just watch JPs.

>> No.50737760

>>50737622
t. seething nijicuck
success breeds jealousy

>> No.50737763 [DELETED] 

>>50736779
I actually forgot this note despite it being the funniest
>An odd amount of the most frequent homo posters have Spanish names
>>50737497
Usually generic and low effort comments "I'm so happy for them" "congratulations" "This is so good" as well as other posts that can be made given little info, though I don't spend much time reading them and usually just log them as I see the tag
>>50736897
30% of all posts made on the subreddit, yes. Considering their incredibly small audience vs the girls, that alone is a staggering number.

>> No.50737768

>>50737610
It is objectively the most efficient way to farm holocred.

>> No.50737796

>>50737629
How do u know he's not replying to a dream revealer?

>> No.50737806

>>50737706
I want to cuddle with mumei

>> No.50737814

>>50737746
Yeah. If anyone is interested they are better off contacting a Japanese toy shop and ask for their sales record.

>> No.50737816

>>50737651
Not even 9 months anon

>> No.50737849

What's the status of Number Bunny

>> No.50737859

>>50737806
cuddle your dog and gf pls

>> No.50737860

>>50736440
I’m sure many Holofans attempted to watch the homos. Only problem is they aren’t very entertaining. Same with the NijiEN males. Plenty of viewers are more open-minded than people think. But if they aren’t charismatic or offer any sort of amusing content, most will fuck off. Male (EN) vtubers offer a poor product. It’s why they’re hurting the most in this western downturn (and the major corpos who pushed so many of them out may be why we’re in a downturn to begin with).

>> No.50737881

>>50737849
She is in her kusoge cycle right now and I want the perm guy fired for enabling her.

>> No.50737901

Vesper is going waaaaaay out of timeslot for I think his first time ever. Any predictions on the zatsu? It'll likely be his first zatsu under 1k.

>> No.50737904

>>50737763
All this numbermancy and autism, wasted on cope. The truth is simple:
>POPULAR DEMAND IS REAL

>> No.50737918

>>50737649
Cards in general have been doing astronomically well since ~2017, and especially when the pandemic bubble came around, so that wouldn't surprise me at all.

What strikes me as curious with something like Weiss Schwarz is that my own experience is moreso in cards that are purely collectibles/merchandise, like sports cards, rather than cards tied to card games. At least in the case of the former, the secondary market has driven prices upwards to an insane degree primarily due to the connections they have with specific athletes (game-worn jersey swatches, on-card autographs, etc.) while what I've seen from TCGs tends to be a hybrid of rarity and demand based on meta usefulness. At least in the case of Hololive's talents being (mostly) real people who actually exist and have personal fans and performances, it feels like the value drivers for their card products would more directly align with sports/entertainment cards than card game cards.

>>50737746
>>50737814
Thanks either way, a lot of this is pure curiosity on my part more than anything.

>> No.50737940

>>50737860
>I’m sure many Holofans attempted to watch the homos. Only problem is they aren’t very entertaining.
This. I think almost all Holofags have given several chances to homos. But they are just not entertaining for male watchers

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>> No.50737962

>>50737860
I know I did. Tried to watch one of their early Hunt: Showdown collab and left shortly after since not much interesting stuff is going on and they barely banter with each other. Also watched Magni's spore streams and wasn't hooked too. The other time I was tempted to watch the blue homo's MRE review too but hesitated to click it due to some perceived problems I read /here/.

>> No.50737967

>>50736897
Yes, fucker. That’s a lot. If a group of people contains 30% people who annoy you, that group becomes annoying and you don’t want to associate with it anymore. The community is a huge part of any fandom, and the community becoming annoying is contributing to its recline.
I truly do not mind the males themselves, unlike a lot of anons /here/. They don’t collab that often with the girls, and I can always skip them. Some of the collabs are even fun, and I’ve watched a few. I just literally can’t stand all the homobeggars who prefer sending a message over just…focusing on the content.

>> No.50738028

>>50737957
I don't think Gura belongs on that image. She is literally telling her fans she will stream whenever she can, while others on that image gave their viewers a lecture.

>> No.50738048

>>50737860
Sort of? It's more that there isn't enough time in the day to watch everything even if I wanted to. While I don't find them entertaining, even if I did it's more like entertainment vs entertainment+cute girls. Obviously I'm gonna choose the latter, why wouldn't I?

>> No.50738058

Kek hes trying so hard to get you's.
Just drop the dox already you pussy.

>> No.50738077

>>50737967
>I just literally can’t stand all the homobeggars
Same. I'd allow any collabs with the homos if it meant every homobeggar was tortured to death.

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>>50737957
Use this BVTM faggot

>> No.50738125

>>50737373
Meh, there’s plenty of left wingers who thinks that Cover should focus on women-only content because the demographic of western streaming is vastly skewed toward men. I’m one of them. If anything, calling people who push cishet males in a woman centric space seems a little right-wing/mra-esque to me.

>> No.50738131

Since /#/ is the land of homo timeloop
All anons have the obligation to vote on this

https://poal.me/n3z7kj
https://poal.me/n3z7kj
https://poal.me/n3z7kj

>> No.50738172

>>50738131
but what if i am fond of homos

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>>50738172

>> No.50738192

>>50737749
Already do. But as an old fan who has enjoyed Hololive since 2018, I want all three branches to succeed.

>> No.50738195

>>50738048
So why do you want EN3 again?
Checkmate, incel
totally natural segue

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>>50738172
can you read?

>> No.50738216

>>50738198
hence the question

>> No.50738219

It's your best chance to get gold, Niji.
Chiroru has noon time stream today.

>> No.50738247

>>50738216
Then don't vote? Anon is asking for those who are not fond of HOLOSTARS EN to vote

>> No.50738263

>>50738077
Based. But this also means Cover will be even more understaffed. May be a good thing considering no management is better than mismanagement.

>> No.50738265

>>50738192
4*

>> No.50738267

>>50737962
I remember watching the early hunter showdown stream and i believe the blue faggot actually said that he wanted them to make it on their own, i guess that aged like piss

>> No.50738275

>>50737860
I regret giving them a chance. Tried to stick with them for a month to see how it'd go after they 'settled in', but I knew they weren't for me within a fortnight. Tempoop is why I regret giving them a chance however. The thought I contributed towards Cover's decision to push out 4 more homos instead of EN3 irritates me. I have doggedly avoided all StarsEN content since.

>> No.50738302

>>50737373
I have most of the same beliefs, faggot. I just happen to think you can be retarded regardless of your political beliefs. These twittards happen to have most of the same beliefs I do, but they’re also morons who have no idea how complicated the world is and who don’t realize how counterproductive their methods are.
Either way, your boogiemen are just as retarded as the twittards’, and trying to pander to people like you would shit up the content just as much as pandering to homobeggars. I don’t base my own political beliefs on retards on the internet, no matter what theirs are.

>> No.50738354

>>50737860
I tried giving them a chance because i fell for the brotuber bait, i regret that decision.

>> No.50738367

>>50737860
>Same with the NijiEN males.
I've tried watching Sonny and Alban, and my issue with them is, they have too many thirsty female fans in the chat.

>> No.50738370 [DELETED] 

>>50736779
them vt screencap channels better put this in their next video

>> No.50738412

>>50737763
>An odd amount of the most frequent homo posters have Spanish names
I suspect that many of them are flips like that Diego dude

>> No.50738418

>>50738275
To be fair I don't think any metric could have prevented StarsEN 2. Even if they were 2views out the gate Cover thought MachaxFlameon was a savior and wanted him in bad.

>> No.50738433

>>50738131
Already looking about how I'd expected

>> No.50738447

>>50738267
>on their own
It's true though.
He meant it the same way Omega "All of the credit" Alpha made the success that is myth again, on xeir own. (They're not the same person. Stop peddling dead rats)

>> No.50738470

>>50738367
That is the issue with all of them
They have to bend the knee constantly on streams to then

>> No.50738477

Where's the Pippa shipping Fauna and Vesper tweet I need to use it on a certain thread to prove that Phasefags are homobeggars

>> No.50738484

7/10 of holoen have been mogged by ironlung for a whole year

>> No.50738517

>>50738048
That’s pretty much what did it for me. I made the mistake of watching Judge Magni in the library and had to stop before I disrupted everyone else. There was some good shit, enough to make me give them a chance for a few weeks.
But…most of their content is shit I’d rather watch a fleshtuber for. I also started migrating to small corpos at this time, and when Tempus and a bunch of 3view girls are on my feed at the same time, whose stream do you think I’m going to click on first?

>> No.50738529

>>50738470
>They have to bend the knee constantly on streams to then
The casual male watcher doesn't pay the bills. These guys need to eat too. I'm sure if given the option to not be a fag and just chill 90% of male vtubers would act like normal guys.

>> No.50738535

>>50738477
Dont come here looking for our help fag.
It wasnt a tweet tough, it was a yt comment.

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>>50738477

>> No.50738598

>>50737860
I agree for the most part, with the exception of Vesper. For whatever reason his style of comedy and zatsu-heavy content is a perfect fit for me and he streams largely in EN dead hours so there isn't an overall conflict in terms of timing.

That being said, Vesper also kind of operates on an island relative to the rest of HomoEN so I can watch his stuff with barely any other mention or collabs of the rest of the group except when they cross over with HoloEN (obvious examples being the Barbie watchalong with Bae and the TTRPG one-off with Kronii and Mori).

I still have not watched a single solo stream from the second Tempus group, including debuts, solely out of lack of interest. I'm sure they're fine like the rest of HomoEN, but I already don't watch the rest of them for a reason.

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>>50738477
Take this as well.

>> No.50738609

>>50738484
>the top 1% of africans has higher IQ than 50% of Americans
same energy

>> No.50738613

>>50738477
It wasn't a shipping tweet. I think it was something about Vesper introducing her to Northernlion (which makes no fucking sense, she mentioned Northernlion in her first few streams, way before Vesper would have even auditioned)

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>>50738477
and this.

>> No.50738673

So how is ironlung doing compared to last year.

>> No.50738711

>>50738125
I’ll be upfront and say the reason I hate Omega is the same as most other anons’: he’s an insufferable shithead that none of the girls actually like. And also that you can tell who’s a tourist based on their opinion of him.
But eventually, it dawned on me that this fuck decided to hype himself up and draw attention away from Council just so…what, he could be a vtweeter? Even tourists and normalfags were disappointed by that. And he pretended to be some sort of troon so he could use an androgynous avatar and pretend to be an anime girl despite being a legit, no-question, cisgender man.
Basically, everyone on all sides of the political spectrum should hate this guy because he’s an insufferable attention whore with a fucking massive ego.

>> No.50738713

Why is he trying to change the topic to ironlung?

>> No.50738730

>>50738598
>I still have not watched a single solo stream from the second Tempus group
Same. I often forget their names and I don't even know what they sound like.

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>>50737763
>An odd amount of the most frequent homo posters have Spanish names
It's the flipcucks, it's always them. They're that assblasted their women become the west's cumdumpsters.

>> No.50738749

>>50737849
Doing fine, still somehow get 34k average last month despite coasting with kusoge

>> No.50738773

>>50738730
The only one I even know of, period, is the clown that hosted the Barbie watchalong. I couldn't even point to a picture of the other two in a lineup, much less give you their names.

>> No.50738790

>>50738713
Im tired of dscusing the failure of tempus
So want to see what other failures are to discuss

>> No.50738817

>>50738773
Funnier still, you forgot there are 3 others.

>> No.50738823

>>50737158
Hey at least she know to balance it in the same day with a buff stream

>> No.50738833 [DELETED] 

>>50736779
Can you do a word cloud for their comments?

>> No.50738855

>>50738817
Christ, for some reason I thought there were only 7 of them total now, not 8. Did they really debut 4 more and I only even know of one existing even months later?

>> No.50738857

>>50738833
Seconding this request

>> No.50738878

>>50736097
Reminder that the nijishitters that post 2x2 without Subaru or Suisei are shitposters trying to stir up drama. Arguing with them or calling out their shit with actual numbers will just cause them to move goalposts endlessly like some sort of ChatGPT AI.

>> No.50738880

>>50738131
what a load of faggots

>> No.50738891

>>50737918
https://ssl4.eir-parts.net/doc/7803/tdnet/2180202/00.pdf
https://bushiroad.co.jp/en/news/information
They actually have their reports in English (Bushiroad)
Tl:dr
Very successful sales for the overseas (english) release of the Hololive set, record sales in TCG department.

>> No.50738899

>>50738855
Yes

>> No.50738908

>>50738790
>So want to see what other failures are to discuss
What about Suisei? I feel like her success is rotten on the inside and she will soon be a runt. People think she is leaving hololive but I think she will never leave since she could not survive without them. She'd be an adult year old working at McDonald's and not even a manager without Hololive.

>> No.50738920
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Unironically what is wrong with him? Is his content that boring?

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>>50738891
You're a godsend, anon.

>> No.50738955

>>50738855
That just means you're very new to /#/ or you have a crippling memory failure issue.

>> No.50738956

>>50738790
>failure of tempus
Tempus is a success compared to the failure that is holostar. See >>50738920

>> No.50738960

>despite just moved his place, Vox managed to set up a sound booth for his ASMR streams for the sisters
>meanwhile Fauna gave multiple excuses for having scuff ASMR
Clearly Vox cares about sisters more than Fauna cares about saplings.

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50738963

>>50738891
>Hololive officially bigger than LoveLive

>> No.50738966

>>50737423
I can only give you the partial numbers from the 3rd holofes on holoshop
https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/hololive_superexpo_b
Weiβ Schwarz Premium Booster : hololive production 23646 $32.00 $756,672.00

>> No.50738968

[Subaru news] She used Wakka's limit break to heal the enemies

>> No.50738970

>>50738855
>Not enough exposure
>Da boiz needs more support
POINT PROVEN
BEGGARCHADS VINDICATED

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>>50738956
>comparing failures to FAILURES

>> No.50738992

>Miko had 12.5k P4G 20 minutes into the hour yesterday
>only 11k today
She's drastically reclining. Any explanation from 35p?

>> No.50739007

>>50738891
Based researcher anon

>> No.50739051

>>50738955
I used to be way more regular in /#/ before Tempus pt. 2 and drifted away mostly because the timeloops were already unbearable enough with just the initial Tempus plus the constant Luxiem-centered shitposting.

>> No.50739092

>>50738730
I only know how the first Tempus members sound like lmao

>> No.50739095

>>50738673
about 75% in terms of viewership. last year she had 9.4M watch hours for the whole month. this time it's trending around 7M, which is around 8.9M for Q2 (she had 1.8M for Apr/May).
Pekora has 5.9M for Apr/May, she needs 3.1M to secure Q2.

>> No.50739097

>>50739051
It bugs me that any discussion about holoEN always ends in deflection to either Tempiss or NijiEN.

>> No.50739099

>>50738960
Vox setup is amateur since is roleplay
He doesnt care that nuch about the quality of sound.

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>>50738966
>$756,672.00
Holy shit

>> No.50739134

Holoen dropped to 5k average last month

>> No.50739165

>>50738992
Not 35p, but JRPG is debuff for most holos. Even Subaru sometimes gets debuffed by them.
Miko's best content are games where she can be creative and engage her audience with her antics. She doesn't do as well comprehending JRPG stories.

>> No.50739175

[Subaru news] She has begun oscillating uncontrollably

>> No.50739178

>>50739099
According to him it can at least block the sound of his fan, clearly better than hearing vehicles passing by outside the house like Fauna.

>> No.50739191

>>50739097
There's nothing new to talk about wrt EN. The girls are either burnt-out, unmotivated or sick, and Connect, while nice, does nothing for everyday streaming.

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>> No.50739212

>>50738730
I'm still really sad about Flay. Mecha fan and fighting game player? Guy's unironically supposed to be made specifically for me...and I can't stand listening to him for more than 5 minutes. I still don't understand how anyone at Cover thought the living embodiment of "bad English dub" would be appealing to an audience that's overwhelmingly millennial weeb subs > dubs types.

>> No.50739213

>>50739134
>no gura
>fauna stagnant
>ina zelda spam
>washed up mumei
>washed up kronii
>the rest are just runts

idk what u expect anon

>> No.50739215

>>50738891
>>50738966
Now my main question circles back around to my original thoughts- just how much of those overall sales actually has anything to do with Weiss Schwarz players or broader Weiss Schwarz collectors, and how much of it is instead attributed solely to Hololive fans collecting a form of Hololive merch? The apparent success of the English-printed version overseas would suggest it's more that second category than anything else, but I may just be underestimating the number of Weiss Schwarz players/collectors in NA. If that scene is large here, I'm certainly not aware of it.

>> No.50739222

>>50738891
Doing god's work, anon.

>> No.50739245

>>50738992
she didn't tweet until an hour before her stream
she's reclining because it's obvious she doesn't care about her fans anymore

>> No.50739254

>>50739175
I tuned in to see what the hell you were talking about.
>Helicopter sword
Kek

>> No.50739252

>>50739191
>The girls are either burnt-out, unmotivated or sick
The thing is that if you point out that they are unmotivated you will be called a nijinigger.

>> No.50739257

>>50739165
Also, there is a very clear 'box' of about 40-50k(max) people who will tune into assorted streams and shit around this time for HoloJP. We saw this when Pekora and Miko were on this time slot, Pekora and Subaru, and now with Subaru and Miko. There simply is only so many people who are going to be at home and willing to tune in at this time.

>> No.50739263

>>50739097
It'd be nice if this thread could reach the point of Japanese Holo fans who don't even bother to talk about StarsJP because they're that insignificant. Somehow I doubt that'll happen. I'm pretty sure it's at least in part the nijiniggers who keep bringing them up honestly. I'd think most Holo fans would just want to talk about the girls.

>> No.50739278

>>50738470
They encouraged it. Don’t beat around the bush, most males, if given the opportunity of having a group of thirsty woman falling all over them, would do the same. But doesn’t change that it hurt vtubing in the west.

>> No.50739284

>Miko has even fewer viewership than yesterday when she was veing overlap by another ~10k P4G stream from NijiJP
So, what's the excuse now? this is some abysmal performance after she had 45k+ median last month. bots?

>> No.50739292

>>50739252
You started this exact same timeloop yesterday. Why do it again?

>> No.50739299

>>50739134
As long as zelda is there is honna dropp like hell. Specially with no gura.

>> No.50739297

>>50736097
this is a bot

>> No.50739307

>>50738920
I am willing to bet that Aruran current audience is 100% homobeggar. The numbers add up

>> No.50739325

>>50739252
Well, most of the time it just spins back into >EN3 WHERE< posting, so regardless it's just a retarded timeloop starter and I'd rather not talk about EN unless something new pops up. Everyone else should get the fact in their head, that we already KNOW all of this and that it just invites homobeggar timeloops and other retarded shitposting and stop worrying about EN for now, since there's nothing to be done until EN3 drops, either within the next month or later in the year.

>> No.50739331

>>50738966
shiny paper that shit wills money into existence

>> No.50739357

>>50739263
EM are too insignificant to talk about which is why homobeggars took over. There were a big 3D stream this morning and 2 of the other EN were streaming, but apparently nothing interesting happened that no content of the streams is posted.

>> No.50739368

>>50738920
>he doesn't know
went from the ojisan darling of jp stars to... well...

>> No.50739372

>>50739284
Stfu schizo with your bot bs,she was spamming buffs last month with multiple single pov collabs in a week.

>> No.50739376

Sora is going to fly

>> No.50739379

>>50739325
I still want to know where the fuck is gura. Is one thing to not stream but literally no twitter activity is just weird specially aince she was still kinda active in april. I woukd expect at least some management tweets

>> No.50739395

>>50739292
It is not just yesterday. This timeloop happens every day which is why you can't really have a genuine discussion about the state of EN.

>> No.50739402

>>50739134
rrat: malmanagement encourages not caring about numbers for the girls so the homos wouldn't look that bad by comparison once they debuted. That's why they told Sana not to mind her 3.5k average.

>> No.50739406

>>50737271
she is specifically told to do it to beat pekora
there is no surprise here
there is a reason she sudenly gained viewerships and pekora is losing

>> No.50739408

>>50739325
>either within the next month or later in the year
More like next year

>> No.50739410

>>50739254
To be honest, by the time I could hit post she had ceased.

>> No.50739435

>>50739284
Hoshiyomi bot Miko so she doesn't look bad as Suisei's friend.

>> No.50739434

>>50739325
Yeah I would rather all EN not talked about here since they are all insignificant.

>> No.50739440

>>50739263
Even if it didn't start off with the homoENs it will devolve to that eventually since the topic around EN nowadays usually comes down to
>why are EN numbers so low now
>how to save EN
>how to get bigger numbers for EN
>how to get the girls motivated again
And they all eventually leads back to discussing homos because if you talk about releasing EN3 as a solution to all these problems, cover's decision to debut 2 gens of tempus is inevitable.

>> No.50739461

>>50739325
It took me longer than I’d like to admit to realize how bad the timeloop was. The falseflaggers and threadshitters made me think I was the only one who understood all the problems with EN.
Anyway, I’ve started thinking about them less and just focusing on getting back into JP. I’m convinced that part of my depression came from watching HoloEN. Which sounds like a shitpost, but if you can believe it, is not.
I spent most of my free time after work not dedicated to normalfag shit on EN, and realized way too late that it was nothing like actual weeb shit anymore. Now I’m having trouble getting back into anime. Which is why I’m trying to get back into JP again first to help me out with that

>> No.50739473

>>50739395
There is nothing to discuss the girls arre on break, burned,busy or sick. And because they are busy they all are just sticking to one or two games.
Collabs are a rarity and the biggest draw of tourist (gura) is MIA

>> No.50739517

>>50739357
/hlgg/ had fun with the collab but since this thread doesn't have much KFP or teamates naturally no one will live post about the stream.

>> No.50739525

Who won raspberry today by the way?

>> No.50739547

>>50737271
The biggest competitor this month is Ironmouse.
She already gets 600K this month.
Though the numbers are different between Twitchtracker and Streams Chart.

>> No.50739556

>>50739461
That's a good mindset to have in general. If you don't like something anymore, don't let it take up your mindspace. Watch the stuff you like and cut the bad stuff out of your life. You'll be much happier that way.

>> No.50739560

>>50739440
>why are EN numbers so low now
They are boring (for various reason, some are the girls' own fault, some are not)
>how to save EN
Do they want to be saved? Every single one of them seems to be comfortable with the current state and numbers.
>how to get bigger numbers for EN
Make them interesting (either by the effort of the girls themselves or with the help of Cover, or both)
>how to get the girls motivated again
Give them less money. Or make them addicted to meth so they need more money.

>> No.50739610

>>50739461
Start with Witch of Mercury and Vinland Saga.

>> No.50739655
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EN3 Next week for sure

>> No.50739684

>>50739556
Nta but good advice. Too bad most anons here choose to seethe about tempus and their insignificant numbers 24/7 instead of enjoying the girls they like to watch.

>> No.50739702

>>50739655
I've been hearing this for like 52 weeks in row...

>> No.50739720

>>50739684
Faunaschizo is really just a good guy that is trying to help saplings to move on from her.

>> No.50739729

Miko lagging behind around ~1.5k compared to her P4G stream 40 minutes into the hour.
Most likely a sub 20k stream unless Subaru funnels into her. Miko has a sponsored stream at 19JST today so funnel from Subaru or Koyori is unlikely

>> No.50739730

>>50739556
i only watch 2/3views, mumei and gura but come here to shitpost anyways

>> No.50739760

>>50739729
Subaru is likely to go for another hour or two.

>> No.50739766

>>50739702
I honestly think the wait is soon to be over. This coming week is going to be it.

>> No.50739783

>>50739730
based whore enjoyer

>> No.50739792

>>50739610
>vinland saga
better off just reading the manga and stopping after the farm arc. S2 isn't that great and the direction is flat as hell. Saying this as someone who actually kept up with Yukimura's bullshit.
Also if that anon really haven't watched anime for so long they are better off watching bocchi in place of VS.

>> No.50739796

>>50739730
I usually listen to vsingers (big and small) and watch JPs. This is the best thread to shitpost.

>> No.50739810

>>50739720
Nah, schizos want you to seethe with them. They are the opposite of good guys in that they want you to seethe at her (or seethe arguing with them, pick your poison).

>> No.50739851

>>50739684
i wonder if they would be as hated here if cover chose to not to shill the fags as hard as they

>> No.50739852

>big numbers on events and collabs
>30k on her last singing stream
>numbers dropped when playing games
>mengen poll shows her audience sees her as a gf the least
35p are females confirmed

>> No.50739863

>>50739792
I actually liked the farm part. I think the hippie shit only started right after the farm part.

>> No.50739874

>>50739766
That also I've been hearing for a long time...

>> No.50739916

>>50739874
T-this time for r-real anon!

>> No.50739926

>>50739473
The JPs are even more busy with their 3Ds and as guests to other's 3D. There is no reason not to stream.
>burnt out
That is a shitty reason.

>> No.50739942

>>50739863
That's the most recent arc after they met the natives
Baltic arc isn't all that great despite the art and action. I like the chapters with Hild before baltic too but unless you really want to continue it's not worth reading the rest. The series' peak so far is at the farmland arc.

>> No.50740044

>>50738833
>>50738857
That would take a lot of god damn time but I might do a small one.

>> No.50740062

>>50739461
>convinced that part of my depression came from watching HoloEN
some of that stems from visiting # probably in some capacity just not entirely. being around mass amounts of negativity over something you like or liked will kill your drive for it over time through wearing you down reading shit day in and day out.

>> No.50740067

>>50739942
Yeah I only read until the moment before your spoiler. I think it is good until the farm parts end. After that the story feels like a wishful thinking of the MC.

>> No.50740089

>>50740044
Up to you anon. I'm just curious if we'll get the Stars' equivalent of "Take your time". My guess is "boys" will top the chart.

>> No.50740128

>>50740062
its called being redpilled. go back to your hugbox globaltard

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>>50736089
I was doing it before I understood Japanese, and it has not changed since then.

>> No.50740156

>>50740089
Unironically you'd get "boys" "bois" "unhinged" and "ayo" mostly, that's mostly what they post form what I've seen. I'll do it but I won't dedicate a load of time to it each day. Just grab maybe a few a day and build it up over time.

>> No.50740168

>>50739852
>>mengen poll shows her audience sees her as a gf the least
Is that why she's ramping up the GFE?

>> No.50740171

>>50740135
what exactly am i looking at here?

>> No.50740196

>>50740153
>shit at English
>shit at Japanese
>shit at Bahasa Indon
What is the point?

>> No.50740211

>>50740171
I assume it's a signed original Weiss Schwartz Suisei card, for auction/sale

>> No.50740212

>>50740135
Couldn't people just counterfiet it

>> No.50740215

>>50738992
cull

>> No.50740217

>>50740128
I was giving my piece on part of the reason he probably got burnt. I myself stopped watching Hololive entirely shortly after holofes for different reasons so global really wouldn't be for me anymore.

>> No.50740239

>>50740062
Oh, trust me, it’s related but not the root cause. I only started visiting /vt/ once I got bored with HoloEN, which was actually months before Tempus was even announced. I didn’t realize the root cause of my depression until recently. My favorite time to visit /#/ lately has been at night, since people tend to talk more about JP.
Sure, I could migrate to the /jp/ Hololive thread, but…I’m used to /here/. Things are getting better though. I’ve finally gotten around to picking the first anime I’m finally going to watch (when I get my fucking computer fixed…). Onimai and Bocchi. One degen pedobait, one mainstream anime. Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.

>> No.50740242
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50740242

>>50736089
Yes
Me and 90,000 others

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50740248

Today is the anniversary of nothing happened in China.

>> No.50740249

>>50740211
i thought it was the curry card

>> No.50740282

>>50740249
It could be, that's why I only assumed

>> No.50740297

>>50740196
Learn, make something of yourself
Ignore kanji if you want, you don't need that shit to enjoy streams.
Listening skills are good enough.
Like any language, immerse yourself for a few hours every day, you'll start to "get it" after a while.
Also try to watch raw streams with full focus and then watch clips of funny moments from that stream, it will expand your vocabulary pretty fast.

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>>50740211
>>50740135
nah it's from her recent curry collab
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000936.000030268.html

>> No.50740333

[Sad news] Subaru failed the command for her limit break

>> No.50740372

>>50736089
If Cover knew that EOPs that like HoloEN would rather watch HoloJP than watch StarsEN and eventually HoloEN would they have pulled the StarsEN trigger? Or would they try to ban foreigners from engaging with JPs?

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>>50737860
> I’m sure many Holofans attempted to watch the homos
Every single one of these pictures was made by a male.
Every. Single. One.
See how many of these type of memes have come out in the past 6 months, it tells the whole story.

>> No.50740412

>>50740239
At least youre starting to feel better there friend. Enjoy the shows.

>> No.50740431

>>50740372
None of anything related to HoloJP or HoloEN was relevant to the decision, frankly. It was 100% the success of Luxiem and the fear of allowing NijiEN to continue with first mover advantage.

>> No.50740458

Baqua apex when?

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>>50740409
/mans/ back in summer last year was insane

>> No.50740489

>>50740458
this year

>> No.50740492

>>50740431
>None of anything related to HoloJP or HoloEN was relevant to the decision
It should have been. Nothing exists in a vacuum.

>> No.50740494

>>50737860
> Only problem is they aren’t very entertaining.
Even IF they weren't entertaining, people were willing to watch them, just like how they are willing to watch low entertainment girls like Mel, Roboco etc. just being "cute", they were willing to watch "the boys" just for the "bro" experience.
But they're not bros. Once that fact was revealed, once that 'mask' came off, male viewers jumped off like a lemmings off a cliff.

>> No.50740508

>>50737901
>1k
DDOOORRRIIIA

>> No.50740534

>>50740215
So "new cull schizo" is 35p because Miko p4g ccv is grim

>> No.50740537

>>50740486
What happened mid to late May that would cause the biggest spike this year?

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>>50740409
I still have some of this shit on my computer because I'm too lazy to go through and delete it.

>> No.50740558

>>50738920
Yes. The only entertaining ones in that group are the only ones inclining (astel, roberu, gamma). The music ones are doing fine with their music (rikka, izuru), the rest are just boring streamers with no niche to fall back on

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>>50740537
Fes

>> No.50740577

fucking newfaggots
JRPGs doesn't buff all chuubas

>> No.50740586

>>50740492
The assumption, much like it appeared to be for NijiEN, was that the audience for English-language male chuubas was a largely new and disconnected audience from the existing pool HoloEN was drawing from.

That assumption was technically correct, just that it probably wasn't immediately clear that audience was made up almost entirely of Chinese and SEA viewers looking for fujobait and would ultimately collapse.

>> No.50740594

>>50740577
retard more than 10k is a buff for chuubas

>> No.50740599

>>50740549
Not even a mori anti, but the top 50 video hasn't really been accurate ever since they decided to remove 1+ year old songs that still get good numbers.

>> No.50740608

>>50740489
thx anon
may the force of homos be with you

>> No.50740629

>>50740594
as opposed to 20K+ playing other kusoge?
LOL
LMAO even

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>>50740557
Me too man, me too.

>> No.50740685

>>50740629
10k is buff for chuubas playing jrpg*
nobody likes jrpg

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>> No.50740699

>>50740639
There was a time you needed 120k to be in the top 30.

>> No.50740736

>>50740688
Will Miko's gacha shill stream take the number 1 spot at all?

>> No.50740755

>>50740688
lui gambling again?

>> No.50740762

>>50740486
>that activity jump from tempus debut until near end of september
>vt stagnation since then outside of holofes spike

>> No.50740763

>>50740586
the funny thing is that in their hubris they had 8 Tempus lined up from day one without even giving time for Tempus 1 dust to settle.

>> No.50740770

>>50740736
95% shill streams are debuff

>> No.50740815

[Happy news] Subaru destroyed a tank

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>>50739263
JP has like 35 members to talk about mate.
Even if one or two of them aren't streaming, someone else always will be.
This means there's always something to talk about when it comes to JP.
EN has 10 holos and 8 homos, already a bad ratio. And the homos + half the ENs that are HATED by this board are also paradoxically the ones who stream the most frequently.
Sooo that ends up being the only thing to talk about... homos or homo collabers...

And like all EN related discussion, this one also ends in the exact same place
> EN3 when?

>> No.50740848

>>50740736
>>50740770
>gacha
>has holo characters
It is super buff. She will get 35k - 40k

>> No.50740862

>>50740763
You don't understand anon! They had to hire FAGon!

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>>50740762
just nothing bringing new people in or grow against the attrition. Big drama events like pikamee graduation and hogwarts only saw tourists posting for a day or two. And the catalog is just timeloops over timeloops. Hell basically the same threads are being posted all the way from September without any "innovation" on the catalogbaiter's part.

>> No.50740903

Suisei got 30k for her shill stream
If Miko fails to get 30k that's undeniable proof she reclined and 35p can't use jrpg debuff as an excuse

>> No.50740940

I see chuubas that no matter what can't incline, even if they are shilled by famous people

>> No.50740985

>>50740940
There's a lot of those. They're called HoloStars, but I expect you already knew that.

>> No.50740986

really funny how miko start at 13 jst yesterday when subaru isnt streaming but start late again when subaru is streaming

>> No.50741007

>Nui kicked Kuzuha out of 11th place
Leechking....

>> No.50741016

>>50740903
Suisei has indeed made Miko weaker....

>> No.50741026

>>50740940
being shilled just gives you an audience to audition for; its up to the chuuba to show them why they should stay around and most dont have anything that makes them special

>> No.50741035

japan really likes their gambling/money stuff, i saw a lot of coin pusher games while searching for the game botan is going to play

>> No.50741036

>>50740763
I am pretty happy they are eating shit. I support Hololive but I don't support Cover. I genuinely think that if Uproar was a success and Tempus was a smash hit they'd start the process of integration much harder. I am not a schizo but they were really planning on integrating the EN branch.

>> No.50741044

>>50740986
Miko is smart. She is avoiding overlap. She also will get funnel if Subaru end her stream

>> No.50741062

>>50741007
I've taken to calling him tinboy recently, but I feel like we may need a less valuable metal to nickname him after

>> No.50741094

>>50741035
Bunch of other Holos have already played it

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>>50741044
>Miko
>smart

>> No.50741169

>>50741062
Lead.

>> No.50741174

>>50741036
>I am not a schizo but
That's always a terrible way to start a sentence anon

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I love Hololive

>> No.50741192

Noon time Chiroru 20K

>> No.50741199

>>50741174
It's true though, most schizos don't know they appear as such.

>> No.50741207

>>50741036
>I am not a schizo but they were really planning on integrating the EN branch.
they're still advancing in that direction wherever possible just being sneaky about it

>> No.50741238
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50741238

https://youtu.be/ZDuoUAAU0ug
Is it just me or does Kanata's voice not suit this song?
or is it because of the mixing?

>> No.50741262

>>50741169
Nice. Low worth. Heavy. I like it. Leadboy he shall be unless he resumes obtaining good numbers.
>>50741192
Is there some major matches over this weekend or something? Any autists here following the goings-on of JP baseball?

>> No.50741278

>>50741165
yeah smart numberfag. or should i call her coward because run away from overlap?

>> No.50741280 [DELETED] 

>>50736779
Compare the comment rate for homoposters to pure holoposters, please - I want to know if the 4.86% are normal simply because almost nobody makes posts rather than comments.

>> No.50741288

I blame Sui leech for Miko's recline

>> No.50741317

>>50741278
she just overlapped with marine and peko yesterday

>> No.50741318

>>50736779
Why was this deleted?

>> No.50741320

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNFioC4vCkc
What a banger

>> No.50741329

>>50740820
How about stop talking about EN when they are not relevant? It is funny that there are people that absolutely refused to watch JP because they don't want to learn JP, while at the same time despise the other corpo because they are not idol-like.

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>> No.50741344

>>50741207
I don't see how that makes sense since it seems pretty obvious the west has rejected the Stars. Not that I trust them to make sense but Cover isn't mercury eating dumb, they should have the corporate machinery to change course.

>> No.50741356

>>50741238
You could at least post how well the song is doing to make it vaugely about numbers you know.

>> No.50741359

>>50741317
with collab? yeah she is coward. her number is bad without collab or relying holobox

>> No.50741361

>>50736779
>>50736801
>>50736897
>>50736925
>>50736948
>>50736964
>>50737212
>>50737308
>>50737393
>>50737449
>>50737473
>>50737497
>>50738370
>>50738833
can't believe the faggot suischizo janny is still here
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>> No.50741365

>>50741238
Yeah this cover makes me feel the full dose of Kanata while there is nothing left from the original vocal. She basically make this her song in a unique way. Not my cup of tea but it is not bad either.

>> No.50741387

>>50741278
Miko always overlap with peko. What are you even saying.

>> No.50741403

>>50741262
The top 2 teams this year+ Henshin has the highest avg audience(40K+per game)

>> No.50741418

>>50741361
the fuck is wrong with the faggot janny?
afraid of getting his faggotry exposed?

>> No.50741427

>>50741387
we are talking about weekend jrpg, miko and subaru

>> No.50741432

>>50741329
>How about stop talking about EN when they are not relevant?
We've asked the ENfags to do this multiple times and they refuse to shut the fuck up about their whores so it's a no go. Face it, unless Gura stops being a lazy cunt then Homo talk and EN talk are inextricably linked because the only ENs who stream are the Tempiss whores.

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