They have to play their cards right its a must, if not, well, antis would have all the reason in the world to call them a black company

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Anonymous Sat Jun 3 01:45:06 2023 No.50663979 [Reply] [Original]

They have to play their cards right its a must, if not, well, antis would have all the reason in the world to call them a black company

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 01:50:51 2023 No.50664274 Kronii is such a snake lmao >i understand kronies, I won't initiate male collabs anymore I promise >AKSHUALLY I DECIDED I'M GONNA DO WHATEVER I WANT AND I'M GONNA RUN TO COVER TO GET THEM TO SCOLD YOU INCEL FUCKS

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 01:52:39 2023 No.50664358 >>50664274 I watched the unarchived members stream someone linked and it's so much worse than that. She really is a cruel bitch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 01:53:55 2023 No.50664426 >>50664358 QRD?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 02:02:21 2023 No.50664809 >>50664358 Her Gook side took over I guess

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 02:03:59 2023 No.50664888

>>50664426
It was a super nice and intimate stream. She seemed to really be concerned about her fans and their worries, even if she didn't necessarily understand or agree with them. The whiplash between that and then changing her mind must have been insane.

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 02:10:15 2023 No.50665197 [DELETED]

>>50664274
It’s your fault for expecting a Korean, let alone a Korean female, to be anything other than two-faced, wretched, and spiteful. There’s a grand total of ONE female Korean VTuber who isn’t a complete cunt - and before even asks, no, I’m not going to post her here so you can shitpost at her.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 02:12:00 2023 No.50665279 >>50665197 everyone already knows bae's wife

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 02:13:56 2023 No.50665379 >>50665197 worse Canadian Korean

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 02:22:54 2023 No.50665784 Yea chumkeks stop attacking Goomba for not streaming.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 02:25:09 2023 No.50665888 >>50664358 I thought she was sensible. But then I have friends

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 02:29:56 2023 No.50666112 >>50665197 everybody knows its ina anon

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 02:32:00 2023 No.50666201 Is there anyone who'd stop attack them just because they're told? Like no one seriously thinks you could tell people to stop committing murder and it would have an affect

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 02:32:31 2023 No.50666225 >>50665197 Ayame was right.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 02:32:49 2023 No.50666242 ITT: shitposters who don't watch streams making mountains out of molehills.

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 02:34:02 2023 No.50666294

>>50664274
As much as a snake of her, that's actually one thing she did right. Don't engage too much with people who hate you and let your management's wage cucks deal with them. If only Mori has that much common sense. You don't 'own the incels' picking fight with those people since half of those people probably aren't even your fans or viewers and now your actual fans and viewers got caught in the crossfire

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 02:35:00 2023 No.50666339 >>50663979 Ah yes the day EN died

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 02:36:42 2023 No.50666413 >>50666242 I watched the whole stream. Here. https://gofile.io/d/mwV447

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 02:36:44 2023 No.50666414 >>50666242 Watching that stream just made people want to shitpost harder, though. Maybe you're the one who doesn't watch streams.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 02:37:04 2023 No.50666428 >>50663979 What a two-faced cunt. Ayame was right, never trust a Korean.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 02:38:40 2023 No.50666506 >>50664809 Gook spitefulness and Mori being in her ear about how she should "own her haters". A terrible combo.

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 02:40:52 2023 No.50666601

>>50666414
"You don't watch streams" is classic globalfag cope to try and deflect criticism. The implication being if you watched every hour of Kroniis content you'd think she isn't that bad when the opposite is true and everything bad about her is on full display the more you watch her.

It's such a reflex for them that I've been told "watch streams" when talking about how Gura doesn't stream. They're not using their brain it's just a coping mechanism when people bring criticism against EN they have no answer for.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 02:45:38 2023 No.50666834 File: 210 KB, 1420x2048, 1677979039410188.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>50665379 Dear God. Also >Please refrain from attacking our talents Heh.

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 02:48:19 2023 No.50666948

>>50664274
As someone who watches stars, I blame Kronii for all the Tempus schizos.
Not only did she ferment one of the weirdest fanbases, but then she ping pong'd her words and opinions to make them even more unhinged.
Doing a membership stream to cater to them, then blaming shipping, blaming "idol culture", don't you guys have phones female friends, I promise I won't upload male collabs to my channel.

None of this shit happened with Mori's or Bae's fanbase, because you knew what you were getting from the very start.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 02:48:42 2023 No.50666970 >>50663979 >Meanwhile nijiniggers get the opposite of this with the company encouraging people to dox and harass their talents kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 02:50:57 2023 No.50667067 >>50666948 Mori and Bae are both tumors because they drag other members into their shit. Remember when Baelz got Mumei to join a Gartic Phone with the JP homos for literally no reason?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 02:52:01 2023 No.50667118 >>50666242 I wish I didn't. Ignorance was sweet bliss.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 02:52:29 2023 No.50667139 >>50666413 LMFAO KRONII RENT FREE

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 02:53:16 2023 No.50667170
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>>50666601
I watched literally every single hour of Kronii content up until she spit on the fans and I can tell you she is a heartless cunt. Of course now, fags will say you watched too much and can't be objective. It's just goalpost moving.

Also
>Global

That place is ground zero for homobeggars and Redditors now. They actually like Mori there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 02:53:59 2023 No.50667194 Stealth NijiDeflect or nah? Black company being mentioned.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 02:55:21 2023 No.50667253 >>50666948 I think Kronii is the only EN that truly hates their fanbase. You don't see her level of spite and resentfulness in any other EN. Why did she even apply if she despises 'idol culture' so much?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 02:57:11 2023 No.50667324 File: 100 KB, 667x539, Kroniifixed.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>50667170 Kronii is a total snake Get it? Because...nevermind.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:02:37 2023 No.50667572 >>50663979 >antis would have all the reason in the world to call them a black company Even though it wouldn't make any sense and everyone would call them retards, so I guess it wouldn't matter, now would it?

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:04:28 2023 No.50667672

>>50664888
She was considerate until she realized how crazy they were. She made one little comment on Vesper's twitter and the idiots immediately threw a tantrum. They did it to themselves by being little bitches like this anon >>50667170
>SHE'S HEARTLESS WAAAAAHHHH

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:05:35 2023 No.50667734 File: 178 KB, 1080x907, EC1461B3-68D3-412D-A60A-D07DEAA18789.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>50667672 Those unichud virgins are like - SO - immature compared to us.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:08:59 2023 No.50667924 >>50664274 >anymore what are you even saying you retard?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:14:39 2023 No.50668254 >>50667734 >Post an example of the same bullshit you do >Ha! gottem! What are you trying to prove here?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:17:54 2023 No.50668433 File: 150 KB, 375x275, 98612AE4-95A1-4ACD-8606-27DEEC649AB0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>50668254 Sister, our Milord is going to impregnate us tonight! Are you excited?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:17:57 2023 No.50668436 >>50668254 >since we're pretending to be dumb bro he's agreeing with you tho haha

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:18:48 2023 No.50668483 Why are hololive fans so toxic and mentally ill? No other corpo has to repeatedly chastise their own fans like children in this manner.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:19:28 2023 No.50668520 File: 240 KB, 1198x900, 6E8F9F14-F057-4D6B-97E5-009D04C91933.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>50668483 So true sis!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:21:19 2023 No.50668591 >>50667672 Wrong. Stop with this revisionist bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:21:21 2023 No.50668592 File: 267 KB, 2048x1690, 05B6817F-B7B4-4DBB-84D2-905904472133.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>50668483 Yeah the fans love it in Niji

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:21:40 2023 No.50668602 This post was made by male troonicorn hands btw >>50668433

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:24:42 2023 No.50668753 >months old tweet what triggered you faggots this time?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:25:43 2023 No.50668800 >>50667672 >Make a promise >Break promise not 12 hours later >"wtf why are you chuds getting mad at me!?" Extreme woman moment

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:26:51 2023 No.50668847 File: 560 KB, 891x891, 157714DF-D23B-49FF-BC77-E90A7963FF09.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>50668602 Sister, what made you stop supporting “The Cause”?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:27:37 2023 No.50668878 >>50666413 after watching the this stream, ive come to the conclusion that kronii loves collabing with tempus, thinks her unicorns are creeps, and is successfully mori-washed

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:30:35 2023 No.50668997 >>50668592 enna is probably the worst example, her viewers literally told her to find someone

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:30:46 2023 No.50669008 >>50668753 A day ending in Y.

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:31:09 2023 No.50669027

>>50667067
>>50667734
>>50668520

Fragile, fragile...heh. Whasamatta, hit a nerve through that thin skin of yours!

Eyes so weak you only see one pixel of a male not you and you go into smithereens
Nose so weak you only smell an inkling of a coed collab you frothe in impotent anger.
Ears so weak you easily believe propaganda and are easily manipulated into turning on who you claimed you like
Mouth so weak you parrot everything your "allies" believe without a second thought.
Skin so weak just one hostile touch and you resort to ad hom.

Code: mx2wk

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:32:27 2023 No.50669083 >>50669027 uh what? what kind of faggot type like this?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:36:55 2023 No.50669281 >>50668878 Nah that stream she was understanding and kind. Then she went on a break, Mori visited her, and she came back a huge cunt.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:37:57 2023 No.50669326 >>50663979 You've been calling them a black company since Chris was fired and it's done nothing to hurt them. Showing the fanbase at large that you're a schizo unicorn will not change anything.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:40:40 2023 No.50669450 >>50668997 I meant it unironically you cuckold

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:47:18 2023 No.50669731 File: 153 KB, 595x553, 1685711509212948.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>50668483

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:48:24 2023 No.50669779 File: 42 KB, 500x300, 1546046709933.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>50664274 >I won't initiate male collabs anymore I promise

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:50:42 2023 No.50669908 >>50663979 Please tell the talents to stop attacking us too then Unicorns just want lebensraum

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:51:23 2023 No.50669943 >>50669731 >bringing up old shit no one cares about yep definitely an asshurt holofag

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:52:10 2023 No.50669977 File: 242 KB, 564x444, 1683441885515478.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>50669943 >t.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:52:24 2023 No.50669988 >>50669908 >stop attacking us Why would anyone give fuck about any of you sorry asses?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:54:40 2023 No.50670107 >>50669988 You'll come crawling back once you start slipping back into 3view status but by then it's too late

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:54:52 2023 No.50670123 >>50669988 >Rules for thee, but not for me

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:57:09 2023 No.50670231 >>50670107 >>50670123 >You'll come crawling back >you'll be sorry if you abandon us! >you need us!! Question: Do you like your "oshi", or do you see them as someone to control with money?

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:57:24 2023 No.50670241

>>50668483
Other vtuber corpos treat their fans like adults. If you don't like their content they'll just tell you to fuckoff.
Hololive built a community by absorbing all those dregs and brainlets and have now put themselves in a position where they have to apologize constantly and baby their community of adult toddlers. It's really mentally exhausting, no wonder Gura doesn't stream anymore. All of EN are totally burnt out on roleplaying adult daycare.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:58:32 2023 No.50670295 >>50669281 Nah, Mori taught her to stand up for herself. And you just cant handle it. Beside money, can you offer anything? Thought so.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:59:18 2023 No.50670328 >>50670231 That doesn’t really address the substance of my post, though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 04:00:13 2023 No.50670383 >>50670231 Bro are you my brain? Exactly what I waa thinking myself!

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 04:00:39 2023 No.50670407

>>50670231
You don't need to oshi someone to watch them, the same way not every female character in an anime is your waifu. But that small interest will fade very fast if you get shit on just for existing. Show your best side and try to win people over or you'll never succeed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 04:01:57 2023 No.50670475 >>50670328 >>50670383 >dodging the question You fucks really got a abusive side to you. No wonder no one wants to deal with you schizos.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 04:04:16 2023 No.50670579 >>50670407 >shit on just for existing That isn't the issue and you know it. If you feel offended if your oshi calls out freaks and schizos, then you need so soul searching to do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 04:04:48 2023 No.50670607 >>50663979 What the fuck happened now??

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 04:05:58 2023 No.50670660

Kronies really trying to defense force Kronii saying she deals with freaks and schizos when Rice, Atlas, and all the rest of those faggots still talk about spreadsheets and getting read by her. I mean has anyone fucking seen Infinity? Go back to jerking off about Name and thinking you can groom her.

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 04:06:47 2023 No.50670695

>>50670579
Not my oshi, not my problem. If I were to catch a stream with them one time and got berated instead of entertained I would not visit their channel again. Nor would I watch collabs with them, so they ruin their colleagues work as well. Very short sighted and foolish.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 04:12:32 2023 No.50671000 >>50670579 Ame shit on her viewers most of the time, even if she's trying to do it jokingly. Look at her numbers now...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 04:14:15 2023 No.50671080 >>50670231 textbook strawman brother. fix your argument

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 04:16:45 2023 No.50671218 >>50670660 Weren’t they the same people who got upset that it was decided in a members only poll that her asmr stream was to be restricted to members so they hopped on vpns and mass bought memberships with ARS to #ownleparasocialfucks?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 04:16:51 2023 No.50671223 >cover needs to ask holokeks not to harass their own chuubas omegalul

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 04:17:52 2023 No.50671288 >>50670579 There's a saying in Pilipino that I can't quite translate to EN. It involves throwing stones to the skies. "Bato-bato sa langit, tamaan wag magalit."

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 04:18:52 2023 No.50671337 >>50670660 I dont even know who she is. I just only recently knew even that was a she.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 04:19:09 2023 No.50671357 >>50664274 Based

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 04:19:33 2023 No.50671383 >>50670241 >Other vtuber corpos treat their fans like adults HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 04:19:53 2023 No.50671401 >>50671223 Embarassing really, as a Holo main myself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 04:23:29 2023 No.50671581 >>50669731 LMAOOOOOOOO How the fuck this keeps happening with NijiEN? They are so retarded with this parasocial shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 04:25:57 2023 No.50671734 >>50664274 Oh no, she didn't let some autistic unicorns walk all over her, how awful.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 04:30:20 2023 No.50672000 >>50663979 People do realize that this rule is also meant to protect the chuubas who do not want anything to do with the dudes?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 04:35:06 2023 No.50672285 I'M RUNNING OUT OF EN GIRLS THAT GFE FOR ME GUYS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE please tell me some that will not collab with a male

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 04:35:14 2023 No.50672297
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Why are you idiots talking about *checks notes* shit that happened almost a whole year ago?
Do you just like to argue about pointless shit, is that it?
Or is it "who wants to be the biggest drooling retard" day again, and I somehow missed the memo,?

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 04:38:16 2023 No.50672462

>>50664274
Man, you must have been really obsessed with Kronii to still be this broken up about something that happened over 8 months ago. I can only imagine how you'd react if your gf cheated on you if this is how you're reacting to this. My condolences, hopefully you find someone to help you forget the pain.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 04:39:13 2023 No.50672502 >>50663979 Ok im gonna admit i have no idea what this is referring to, what happened now?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 04:39:19 2023 No.50672506 >>50663979 >Black company Wrong company. You're looking for Any1%

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 04:41:52 2023 No.50672638

>>50664274
>>50664358
>>50667170
Fucks sake you faggots are delusional. She was harassed into accepting an unrealistic position she obviously didn't want because some autistic faggots through an absolute shit fit she played DBD with some homos and one of them made her laugh her ass off over a self depricating gay joke. She at least had enough sense to pick herself back up and not cave into you possessive faggots.

>>50668602
trannies don't watch male vtubers, they fucking hate them, they only want to watch CGDCT and maintain their delusional fantasy of being a cute anime girl.

>>50672502
I impregnated kronii, people weren't to happy about that, especially vesper.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 04:42:26 2023 No.50672672 >>50664888 Kronii out here giving her Kronies Rizz classes to help them with their social skills. Oh how I miss the good old gldays when she cared about her fans. What a Bitch!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 04:43:32 2023 No.50672726 >>50669083 oof ESL faggot detected

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 04:50:05 2023 No.50673042 >>50672638 ironic. last i checked it was the same trannies posting about pride month with pronouns and lgbt flags in their bio who were supporting kronii own the unichuds and advocating for "unity"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 04:50:07 2023 No.50673044 >>50672638 >I impregnated Kronii Not after the last pregnancy test. That was all me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 04:52:26 2023 No.50673146 >>50672638 Shut the fuck ESL faggot you have no idea what's even being said here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 04:55:30 2023 No.50673313 >>50669027 what fkin chink sister is this ? go back to ur Chinatown, chinks fker. taiwan is a country and u should acknowledge it first before blabbering nonsense

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 05:07:20 2023 No.50673875 >>50668847 tf are you on about?? what cause?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 05:11:17 2023 No.50674065 >>50673875 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deIu9IyuZRI&t=4875s

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 05:11:51 2023 No.50674093 what even is this thread what's with seamonkeys and their obsession in calling each other ESL and faggots

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 05:13:04 2023 No.50674149 >ESL thread >months old shitpost What riled up the trannies this time? any yabs today?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 05:21:51 2023 No.50674543 >>50666225 Always has been

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 05:30:01 2023 No.50674883
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>>50663979
OOOOH is the starfags anniversary. I get it now why the schizos are seething.
Also, based nijisister deceiving the twitter faggots. (now trending btw)
https://twitter.com/MLPMeetsMC/status/1664842612560531456
>Liver
Innocent oopsie :3

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 05:32:01 2023 No.50674969 >>50673313 Neither Chink nor sister. Try again. I hate them, in fact.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 05:32:39 2023 No.50675001 >>50664274 Kronii >followed homos on twitter >replied to homos on twitter >talked about homos on stream >talked to homos in their chats all prior to collabing with them

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 05:34:24 2023 No.50675077 Kronii is Gru and Kronies are the minions. Anyone who doesn't know this is a fake Kronie. Know your place Kronies. Even Kronii prays to the Ward Time. Get on your knees fuckers! Long Live the Warden of Time! Long Live!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 05:35:06 2023 No.50675108 >>50667170 You can't just cope with your mental illness by calling everyone who thinks you're a schizo asshole reddit

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 05:36:33 2023 No.50675183 >>50675077 yeah what he said

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 05:37:54 2023 No.50675239 >>50675108 Shouldn't you be seething about gift memberships to anyone who will listen? You're parasocial as fuck, just in denial about it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 05:43:01 2023 No.50675457 >>50667170 >That place is ground zero for homobeggars and Redditors now. I also like that they think everything is doxxing. You're aware she's a woman? DOXX!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 05:43:30 2023 No.50675482 >>50667170 >quality of thread measured by how hard they're sperging out about manufactured boogeyman of the week ishygddt

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 05:44:05 2023 No.50675500 >>50665197 Wolfgirl with fat tits.

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 05:44:18 2023 No.50675510

>>50670231
You can't "oshi" an EN girl. "Idol culture" doesn't exist in the west.
Hence, the only interaction between an EN streamer and their fans is transactional. And if people don't get their money's worth, they will rightfully complain, and/or take their money elsewhere.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 05:44:31 2023 No.50675519 >>50675457 Go back

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 05:46:28 2023 No.50675596

>>50668520
I'm reminded most of these types of women reject most men until they end up alone though, like the 28yo femcel who cried she had never held a man's hand. Rather than point out there's a million incels in china who would fuck her, people 'felt bad for her'. Women dig their own graves and then cry that no one cares.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 05:47:22 2023 No.50675629 >>50672297 Holo concert is one month away. Nothing else to talk about in the EN sphere until then.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 05:47:29 2023 No.50675634 >>50675519 Did you know that most of Holoen speaks english?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 05:47:31 2023 No.50675640 >>50675510 So any time now? Cuz they are taking their sweet time going elsewhere

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 05:50:15 2023 No.50675747 >>50675640 > thinking I watch EN enjoy your slop if you want, I'm simply explaining the cultural difference in terms of why the western fanbase behaves as it does.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 05:51:40 2023 No.50675811 >>50675510 It could exist but every time they try they revolt against it, but then complain about people also not giving them free money. w*stoid women were never great but the last 6-9 years have broken them utterly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 05:54:15 2023 No.50675934 >>50675747 Then why even respons if you don't watch EN? This thread clearly discussing about them though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 06:05:40 2023 No.50676460 >>50670295 so brave they should go at it alone, and make it big i believe in them just do it graduate !

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 06:13:38 2023 No.50676825 >>50675934 EOPs using JP terms willy nilly without understanding context has poisoned the well of discussion, and I'm simply doing my part in correcting what little I can.

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 06:18:00 2023 No.50677011

>>50675811
Who was the last western "idol" anyway? Miley Cyrus was the last one I remember, and she was specifically engineered to be a bad influence on young folks by being wholesome enough to allow parents to have their kids watch her unsupervised, and then whoring her out once enough kids had been caught.
Pretty sure since then there has not been ANY idol from the west.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 06:20:40 2023 No.50677149 File: 2 KB, 120x120, pill_1f48a.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>50668591 >>50668800

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 06:21:15 2023 No.50677179

>>50676825
Holy cringe. Nothing is more of a waste of time than some retard that thinks he's Japanese because he understands 5 Japanese words. You wouldn't be here, a board that couldn't give less of a shit about subpar JP vtubers, if you could actually speak Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 06:30:19 2023 No.50677544 >>50677179 > newfag doesn't know that the JP thread is one of the fastest on the board. figures

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 06:33:36 2023 No.50677675 >>50664274 >Girl doesn't shut up and let's cover handle it >NOOOO YOU'RE GOING TO END UP LIKE RUSHIA >Girl decides to shut up and let cover handle it >NOOOOO SHE'S RUNNING TO COVER AND GETTING THEM TO SCOLD YOU INCEL FUCKS There's just no winning huh.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 06:35:29 2023 No.50677741 >>50664274 >AKSHUALLY I DECIDED I'M GONNA DO WHATEVER I WANT Based. Fuck you guys

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 06:42:52 2023 No.50678016 >>50667672 >She made one little comment on Vesper's twitter She literally replied to an image of his underwear.

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 06:53:13 2023 No.50678328

>>50677675
The sensible thing would've been to, in another stream, tell her viewers herself what she intended to do and that she'd changed her mind and that's final. But she didn't do that. She got management to do it for her like a coward.
Hilarious because none of the others have ever needed management to do anything of the sort for them ever. Just the girl that insists that she's "non binary" or whatever made up bullshit tranny buzzword she called herself who rails against her own femininity; she went running to management like a little girl lmao
Ironic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 06:57:12 2023 No.50678471 >>50677544 >Literally dead even during Pekora hours You know archives are a thing right?

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 07:04:38 2023 No.50678730
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>>50677011
What? Future trad wife Taylor Swift that started as a le strong independent woman example until she dared talking bad about the powers that be and now is the designated cumpdumpster for some autistic nazi brit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 07:23:23 2023 No.50679285 Minors are sharing selfies in hex haywire tags deflection thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 07:30:05 2023 No.50679452 File: 197 KB, 1644x834, 1685723334103306.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ACCELERATE

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 07:35:46 2023 No.50679587 What even happened? What are we even talking about here? I've read all the posts in this thread and have zero clue, other than the fact that it involves Kronii

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 07:37:43 2023 No.50679645

>>50670231
I like my oshi and I like my oshi's relationship with her fanbase and I like my oshi specifically because she was able to create that kind of relationship and is the type of person who desires to maintain it.
Two-way prasocial relationships are neat, incredibly enjoyable and fun(more fun than any stream in existence at least, streamers are the bottom of the barrel for entertainment)
Being able to feel a person have emotions for "you" in situations where it is incredibly unlikely is generally what all of my hobbies revolve around. Emotions are also neat, and should.be ramped up to 11 in all human beings at all times.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 09:18:29 2023 No.50682446 >>50666201 No but it means there's precedent for taking action.

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 10:43:05 2023 No.50684747
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>>50664274
>>50664358
Westerners: "Japan's idol culture is horrible! We are better than them because we're not parasocial!"
Also westerners: "REEEEEE WHY ARE YOU TALKING TO MEN!"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 10:47:21 2023 No.50684855 >>50678730 Isn't she also daughter of a very rich guy that also part of the power? She got everything delivered on a silver plate

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 10:49:18 2023 No.50684901 >>50684747 >People aren't hive minds What's your angle here?

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 10:52:29 2023 No.50684975

>>50678328
That's fucking dumb. Your solution is Rushia tier dumb.
>"Ah yes, let her talk to crazy unicorns expecting them to react like normal well adjusted people"
There's a reason when a celebrity is under scrutiny they always have PR and lawyer on their side. Better to shut the fuck up than taken out of context.

You sound like that youtuber Grade a under a. he can't keep his mouth shut and pretty much turned into a clown.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 10:54:27 2023 No.50685017 >>50678016 >Man replying to lingerie post Haha, that's funny. Moving on..... >Woman replying to an underwear post >REEEEEEEE WHY SHE TALK ABOUT MEN UNDERWEAR! UNCLEAN! UNCLEAAAAAAAN!!! Go back to your monastery, friar Tuck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 10:55:45 2023 No.50685051 what did kronii do to upset you now

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 10:59:10 2023 No.50685134 >>50685051 Schizos have run out of """yabs""" to bitch about so they're basically rerunning old ones again to keep the giftcord economy moving or something.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 10:59:48 2023 No.50685155 >>50663979 Déjà vu. I've seen in this thread before.

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 11:00:23 2023 No.50685181

>>50666201
I stopped harassing chuubas and sending death threats directed towards their entire families (including pets) ever since the fan guidelines update. Instead, I started to cheer them on with phrases like "Do your best!" or "You'll get 'em next time!".

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 11:01:18 2023 No.50685208 >>50684747 Those reeing are not representative of West gang.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 11:05:07 2023 No.50685321 >>50667253 money

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 11:14:21 2023 No.50685575
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>>50667734
lmao how delusional are unicorns to think it's fujos that hate them?
hint, fujos are exactly like you except for the guys. They don't want collabs either.

Unicorns will keep losing. At least they don't know jp or they would flip their shit over here too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 11:37:40 2023 No.50686108 What are the nijinigs upset about this time? The catalog is full of holoEN seethe today.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 11:40:34 2023 No.50686173 >>50685208 Remember that singer Vtuber who got shot dead by a parasocial fan? Or John Lennon killer? Or that stalker guy who killed a podcaster that he stalked for months? Or many more cases about parasocialism in the western world?

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 11:42:28 2023 No.50686205

>>50666201
Is this nijifag cope because Anycolor official accounts refuse to come out and say not to harrass the Livers lol no matter what? Also to answer your question yes it is proven to work on the more braindead part of any fanbase which is usually the loudest one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 11:43:13 2023 No.50686226 >>50663979 Holos having yab after yab lately kek. This is karma talking shit on other groups.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 11:46:58 2023 No.50686309 >>50686226 The only ones talking shit about people behind their backs are Nijisanji Livers

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 13:06:06 2023 No.50688580 >>50686226 Where's the fucking current yab nijiSEAnjikek/phasekek, this was an ancient tweet from last year

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 13:08:08 2023 No.50688644 >>50684747 Name one person that has said both of those things unironically.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 13:12:46 2023 No.50688802 >>50667253 She applied, not thinking she would be accepted.

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 13:12:54 2023 No.50688804

>>50686173
I think the only difference between the West and the East in that regard is that in the East it's the femoids who are more dangerous. I don't think any clock fans are looking to vandalize Vesper's stuff, whereas we all saw what happened to Rushia's bus.

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 13:24:46 2023 No.50689265

>>50684975
>ur dumb
Nigger.
The kronifags screeched because she didn't talk to them directly and instead reneged on what she said without telling them and got someone else to do it. There would've always been schizos seething but this way of telling them direct there would've been less. They either accept what their oshi tells them or they fuck off. Instead faceless management told them.
People are less likely to rage if they're prepared for it beforehand, not having it sprung on them as they feel disrespected. Grow up, go out and talk with more people and you'll figure this out instead of staying a neet incel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 13:55:15 2023 No.50690291 >>50666201 They see (you) as a "person" it would work on. Consider this

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 14:01:09 2023 No.50690533

I think this is hilarious, /a/ use to shit on JP otaku who would sperg out over idol culture, and now it has become full circle for the Western audience.
You may think, 'as long as we don't get revealed from behind a computer' you aren't a sperg, but your safe fallacy of coping logic is a laugh and a half.
Good on Kronii for doing her best to filter you betas from existence, just watch her if she delivers entertainment value.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 14:03:41 2023 No.50690646 >>50667170 >hides the currency

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 15:23:38 2023 No.50693674

I'll say the same thing I always say about these topics. The livers can do whatever the fuck they want, but they can't complain about poor performance if they actively decide to do something they know will push away their core audience, or otherwise negatively affect their earnings.
The thing is, I can absolute respect those who hate the idea of being a slave to their audience, but on the other hand, for those who consider this their main job, I respect if they decide to go all in on the unicorn shit for financial gain. What I absolutely don't respect is anyone trying to play both sides.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 15:40:12 2023 No.50694337 File: 58 KB, 1637x965, 1663769441301.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] lol lmao

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 16:03:05 2023 No.50695336 >>50694337 are there Kronii gachis left on her channel at this point?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 16:05:26 2023 No.50695428 >>50686226 Wow it's fucking nothing

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 16:12:18 2023 No.50695715 >>50685575 Soon, all will be free. Soon, numbers wont revolve around THEM anymore.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 16:18:27 2023 No.50696009 >>50695715 nta, why sisters act like they are the main public or something like that?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 16:42:58 2023 No.50697154 beggars = well adjusted people, want to see kino interaction between hololivers unicorns = the worst of the worst, lunatics that get mad when a girl talks to a boy, want to hurt hololivers That's enough for me to know who's on the wrong side of history

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 16:48:18 2023 No.50697364 >>50667734 >>50668520 >Unicorn :) >Unicorn (f) :(

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 16:49:27 2023 No.50697402

>>50697154
>beggars = well adjusted people, want to see kino interaction between hololivers
I'd respect this point if they actually watched the streams they begged for. Instead, they beg for streams that unicorns hate, which in some cases may give them an initial boost in views from beggars who want to le own the unicorns. But in many of those cases the initial boost is incredibly short-lived, and these people move back to being clipniggers. Unfortunately, now the unicorns have also gone and now the streamer has essentially crippled themselves, because the audience they built their core audience on have fucked off.
Again, I'd respect beggars if they actually watched streams, and were a feasible replacement for unicorns, but they're not.

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 16:55:45 2023 No.50697634
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>>50697154
>well adjusted
Haha, no. When beggars don't get their way, instead of respecting the talent's decision they resort to passive aggression, guilt tripping the girls for "ignoring" a part of hololive. This isn't a good vs. evil battle

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 16:56:46 2023 No.50697678 >>50696009 Now I dont even know if you're lambasting me or them...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 16:57:29 2023 No.50697696 >>50697364 It's funny how jap unicorns are united, but the west is so retarded men and women who share the exact same opinion against mixed streams will fight each other.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 16:57:59 2023 No.50697708 >>50663979 this is actually for the homobeggars, not the unicorns.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 16:58:13 2023 No.50697723 >>50697634 It is, to you it isnt because inevitably, youd be outed as the evil. Necessary, maybe, but evil still.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 17:03:23 2023 No.50697950 File: 176 KB, 1146x1051, tumblr_f5b877b64bd37ba8075423faa6bebe2c_f9ff3730_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>50697708

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 17:04:09 2023 No.50697980

>>50697723
What both sides do is essentially try to dictate how the talent should conduct themselves. With unicorns it's very obvious that there's a demented side to them. As such, it's easier to recognise and deal with them. But beggars act as if what they're doing is for the god of the talent, operating under the guise that the talent should have the choice to collab with whoever they want. But at the same time, they're not respecting the talent's choice to not collab with people they don't want to collab with.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 17:15:00 2023 No.50698473 >>50667672 Yeah she did the one thing she said she wasn’t going to do, and she did it not even 24 hours after promising not to tweet at tbem

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 17:19:25 2023 No.50698643

>>50672638
>one of them made her laugh her ass off over a self deprecating gay joke
That is actually not what happened at all retard…

also why tf do you think not collabing with guys is an unrealistic request? She literally never collabed with guys until homostars english showed up, it was an incredibly realistic request, most of
Hololive avoids the homos like the plague, clearly it wouldn’t have been that hard to do

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 18:43:24 2023 No.50702133 >>50664274 hot

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 19:56:18 2023 No.50705266 >>50697723 lmao imagine destroying something that isn't harming anyone while gaslighting as the good guy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 20:07:12 2023 No.50705734 >>50664274 I still think Kronii is a coward. She said "unfortunately idol culture is a thing" and then took that statement right back. We all know that's what you really think

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 20:08:25 2023 No.50705781 >>50705734 I mean we know she's a coward she had Cover issue that statement so she could hide behind them immediately when she came back. That was the first interaction she had with her fans after that heart to heart in >>50666413

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 20:08:30 2023 No.50705790 >>50667734 lol, why do men use pictures of females as their profile pic? I've never understood this

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 20:10:03 2023 No.50705879 They tweeted this months ago. Why did you tweet it again to make it seem like it's new? This is old news by now

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 20:11:14 2023 No.50705942 File: 96 KB, 1280x720, 19578321.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>50663979 Cover has literally bullied their talents to suicide-attempts.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 20:16:28 2023 No.50706184 >>50705942 Whomst?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 20:16:35 2023 No.50706194 >>50667734 Fucking bug people who can't understand human emotions. Why are they like this? disregarding life as nothing but nutrients for them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 20:17:25 2023 No.50706231 >>50705942 Cute pink haired girl

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 20:20:11 2023 No.50706369 >>50705942 >She got bullied by antis >Cover allowed her to take hiatus >She decided to graduate >Cover actually let the spot open if she wants to rejoin Hololive Meanwhile schizos: "cOvEr BaD DurRrrRrrrRrr"

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 20:21:05 2023 No.50706417
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>>50668997
>Enna please we want you to find happiness with your special someone... please go find him... someone that makes love to you and makes you feel safe forever... Aloupeeps support you.........

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 20:26:10 2023 No.50706675 >>50663979 You wouldn't know what a black company is if you worked for one, you demented basement goblin

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 20:27:02 2023 No.50706712

>>50705734
>>50705781
lol you two are the proof why she said that.
Years ago westerners talk about how they're better than Japan for not treating their celebrities like Idol culture.
They conveniently sweep under the rug stuff like
>Stalkers literally attacking celebrities
>Or worse, killing them
>Talk shit about their supposed to be their "oshi" the best example is Britney Spear's mental breakdown
>Believing gossips and fan the flame
Fucking hypocrites all of you

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 20:27:24 2023 No.50706736

>>50705942
nice rewriting of history but it was nijiniggers the ones that harassed her for her for her comments on her PL calling Niji a black company... it took time but now it's widely know they are black.
Cover could have handled the matter better by not suspending her for the test video but knowing nijiniggers vehavior they would have harassed her some more had she come back to stream, iirc they even send death threats to her house.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 20:30:27 2023 No.50706867 File: 162 KB, 673x609, IMG_3059.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>50697950 >tumblr filename

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 20:41:50 2023 No.50707320 >>50705942 She's a habitual liar. A chronic liar. Everything she says is nonsense with zero proof. Most of her sob stories were hidden behind a paywall (shocker). Yeah I'm sure she really tried to commit suicide. Totally.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 20:48:09 2023 No.50707534 >>50667253 Money so shes a whore, but not whoring for you members but will use the money to whore for the holostar fuckers irl

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 20:54:03 2023 No.50707782 >>50663979 I think this is a response to the Fauna doxx

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 20:55:31 2023 No.50707830 >>50706712 >homobeggar conveniently rewriting history and strawmanning Name me one person who said “idol culture bad” while doing any of the things you listed

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 20:59:53 2023 No.50708032
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>>50697723
I don't know about that. Beggars don't beg with consideration for what the talent wants. They just don't want to be like those "evil" unicorns, so they insiduously pressure the girls in ways such as picrel. Kinda like a "nice guy" with an ulterior motive

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 21:02:28 2023 No.50708138 >>50666413 tl;dw

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 21:09:16 2023 No.50708447 >>50667170 >SEETHING over a girl he doesn't even know. LMAO Kizuna-Ai-San Bless us

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 21:15:57 2023 No.50708706 >>50685134 They should switch to fleshtubers, so many yabs that will last a lifetime

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 21:16:09 2023 No.50708718 don't you retards have anything better to do than be mad about a woman interacting with men you are utterly fucked as a male if you are intimidated by her interacting with vesper lmao

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 21:17:53 2023 No.50708789 File: 5 KB, 591x176, 7BF06C02-E906-405E-A89E-F1231EC215E9.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>50708718 so true sis!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 21:18:58 2023 No.50708834 >>50708789 pic must be unrelated cause literally who?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 21:19:35 2023 No.50708852 >>50664274 Based, Kronii is fucking TRASH. Also Kronies are the biggest pieces of shit in the entire vtubing sphere, I'll never forgive them for hating on Mumei.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 21:21:23 2023 No.50708924 >>50708834 point is that it's fine when WE rightfully feel resentment over milord betraying us to interact with that spic whore but those unicorns shouldn't feel upset because their oshi talked to a member of the opposite sex

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 21:28:19 2023 No.50709200
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>>50664274
I touched more grass and ended up getting Laid as a result, if only people believed in themselves more you wouldn't even give a single fuck about Incel/pretender beta women exchanging kisses for simp dollars

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 21:28:48 2023 No.50709223 File: 434 KB, 821x543, 1635797804194.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>50708924 whatever you're projecting I'll pretend to understand I guess

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 21:38:21 2023 No.50709641 >>50666413 is this stream recent or is the one that happened back when the collabs first started rolling in? I don't come to the catalog often

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 21:42:01 2023 No.50709802

>>50709200
I understand that while not all of them deserve the hate, this is effectively the Solution.

Get out more, get better hobbies, preferably something that can also increase your skill-set or whatever have you, waiting on death and the atomic sliver of "happiness" you'd get off watching streamers isn't going to cut shit

No to mention, they "love" viewers one day then decide to piss on them the next

What are you possibly doing/gaining other then supplementing their income?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 21:58:42 2023 No.50710567 >>50674883 >made by MLPmeetsMC kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 21:59:49 2023 No.50710618 >>50707782 ??? Recently? What happened? I know shit that was dug up from around her debut.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 22:06:01 2023 No.50710974 >>50707830 You mean like trying to doxx those girls hoping for some swating? It still happen, and retards like you trying to deflect it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 22:45:01 2023 No.50713081 >>50666413 what a fucking bitch, this kronii snake

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 23:21:24 2023 No.50714988 >>50670295 Mori taught Kronii to tank her numbers and supa numbers like Mori had done already given she needs to constantly leech to claw up from being a low 4 view. Brilliant marketing move.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 23:24:43 2023 No.50715155 >>50714988 You speak as if being a "low 4 view" still isn't being in the top 1% of streamers and she still mogs a solid chunk of Niji EN

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 00:35:04 2023 No.50719109 ITT: parasocial fucks

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 00:38:59 2023 No.50719350 File: 846 KB, 1024x973, 1613168523116.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] NO WAY SISTERS LOOK WHAT I FOUND

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 00:49:09 2023 No.50719958 >>50719350 i enjoy this wata

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 00:50:52 2023 No.50720073 >>50719109 Knock it off finana. Wouldnt wanna recline even more than you already have

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 00:53:41 2023 No.50720260 >>50664274 I love Kronii for helping kickstart the new era of HoloEN and helping cement the Tempus boys as kino legends

Anonymous Sun Jun 4 01:10:54 2023 No.50721421

>>50670231
The voice actresses behind the vtuber model can do whatever they want with their life, but the vtuber model, the kayfabe and the content is all shit we, the audience, the fans, control or we leave.

If you don't accept this agreement, you will never be able to garner any fans that would be willing to give you any money.
It's parasocial on the streamers part to expect fans to just accept whatever they do = worthwhile content.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 01:12:06 2023 No.50721494 >>50684747 Every vtuber fan proudly says they are parasocial? Are you retarded?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 01:14:11 2023 No.50721638 >>50695336 Not really, hololive had to extend kronies merch sales because they didn't sell enough of the back stock, no one is actually supporting kronii financially anymore, which is why some people are assuming she won't renew her contract next month

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 01:15:03 2023 No.50721705 >>50663979 Oh no ENcels

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 01:15:12 2023 No.50721719 >>50705942 Delta is a literal menhera landmine, there was zero the company could do to save a woman who just wants to self-destruct

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 01:19:25 2023 No.50722012 >>50668878 Mori washed? Kronii joined just to promote her VA activities, when she is streaming 3 days/week is usually because she is recording something outside holo.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 01:35:43 2023 No.50723027 Why does anyone care about Kronii? She didn't even know Weather Hackers or Ahoy. She doesn't care about her job or coworkers, so why spare thought for her?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 01:43:00 2023 No.50723462 >>50686173 i didn't know Shinzo Abe was a vtuber

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 02:11:41 2023 No.50725133 >>50723027 because she's a force of corruption and a bad influence for hololive. It wouldn't surprise me if she's a niji plant

Anonymous Sun Jun 4 02:18:43 2023 No.50725569

>>50685017
the difference is that vesper isn't leveraging his sex to exploit a vulnerable group of people into giving him money. men and women do not operate along the same paradigms in this space and you're a disingenuous faggot for pretending they do.

Anonymous Sun Jun 4 02:23:25 2023 No.50725906
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>>50664426
First of all, when people ask "What did Kronii do?" there will always be a bunch of trolls eager to jump in with responses like "SHE COLLABED WITH MEN" "SHE SAID UNFORTUNATELY IDOL CULTURE IS A THING" and "SHE PROMISED TO STOP COLLABING WITH MEN AND THEN DIDN'T." These answers are all wrong and everyone who posts them is a faggot. It doesn't even matter why they post them. Some of them are trolls just trying to stir the shit. Some of them honestly think that's what happened because they didn't follow Kronii and just listened to whatever troll post or dramatuber vid told them. Some are actual Kronies trying to make the Kronies that left look like unreasonable schizos. Whatever the case, every single answer that is along those three lines is wrong and can be discarded immediately.

What actually happened with Kronii was a little more complicated. Basically she first attempted to understand where her fans were coming from, and then abruptly did an about face and sided with the people calling them incels. It was a betrayal of trust on the deepest level, and whether or not she meant it this way is irrelevant, the effect was the same.

Basically Kronii did not have a lot of things going for her as a streamer early on. She had the Wada model and a nice voice. But she wasn't great at zatsudan, she wasn't great at games, and she wasn't great at singing, she also did karaoke pretty rarely. Which is fine, part of the joy of the Hololive experience is watching your streamer develop over time. Thus people had to find something else to latch onto and they did so by becoming parasocial with her. This wasn't helped by her choosing to watch a lot of "Gosling" movies in member streams like The Truman Show, and of course Ryan Gosling himself in Blade Runner and La La Land.

The male collab thing was not well received by this portion of the fanbase and they made their discontent known through long and lengthy posts in her community, trying to explain themselves as best they could. Whether they were CGDCTfags or just plain unicorns, or people who didn't like the drama that male collabs inevitably bring, they spelled out their grievances, for the most part as composed as they could be. I'd say the only person that came off close to being a unicorn was Aliaga Ayin's post and even that wasn't that deranged. Some of these posts were from long time members, people Kronii would actually talk and react to in chat, Kronies refer to such people as being on the "spreadsheet' which is an alleged list of her "favorite" members. The most notorious of this would be Gabe who was mentally ill and attention seeking from Day 1, but even his post wasn't that crazy.

The point is during a special unarchived member stream, Kronii took the time to read these posts, out loud on stream, in an effort to better understand what these people were unhappy about. And for a brief moment, that won her a lot of love and respect. While Reddit and Twitter were calling these people unicorns and incels, she actually took the time to read them, addressed their concerns, and even defended them, saying she didn't want people attacking her fans. She stated clearly, that while she would NOT stop doing male collabs, she would not initiate them, probably not tweet to them that much, and she would not stream her POV to them. This satisfied all but the most die hard unicorns, and again, even Aliaga Ayin was pacified. The point is, the Kronies that felt this way felt HEARD. She didn't just dismiss them out of hand, like others were doing.

Then less than a day later, she did this tweet, disappeared for a week, and when she came back said she would collab with whoever, whenever, and that was the end of it. There was no further discussion and at the same time the Hololive account made that proclamation against harassing the talents.

So in the eyes of the Kronies who felt betrayed, she had gone from understanding them and defending them, to siding with the people who mocked them and disparaged them, while running and hiding behind the skirts of the company from the inevitable backlash she had to know would follow. Honestly it would have been better if she had never done that unarchived members stream. She gave them hope that she understood, if not fully agreeing with where they came from, and then dashed it violently. That's why they hate her so much. It's not as simple as "male collabs" or "unfortunately idol culture is a thing" it is a real long standing feeling of betrayal and loss from people who watched her for over a year and thought they had a deeper understanding of their oshi and she them

>>41710038

>>	Meru Love 3 Sun Jun 4 02:33:24 2023 No.50726639 >>50725906 point and laugh at the unironic schizo

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 02:33:26 2023 No.50726642 >>50723027 Having to hear and remember every single hololive original song just to please fans seems like a drag.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 02:39:16 2023 No.50727067 >>50726639 congrats, you proved him right

Anonymous Sun Jun 4 02:41:41 2023 No.50727237

>>50709641
This stream happened right after the first collab. Contrary to homobeggar revisionism, Kronies were pretty collected about the whole thing and posted their concerns in her community. She took the time to read them and address them in this stream. Then she went away, tweeted Vesper, came back and had Cover issue that statement and went full on Homocollaber.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 02:47:49 2023 No.50727664 >>50725906 /vt/ posters always pretend to be such hardass tough guys on the internet but holy fucking shit you guys can be as fragile as any given twitter troon

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 02:48:13 2023 No.50727693 >>50664274 Good, put the retards in their place lmao

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 02:58:20 2023 No.50728401 >>50725906 >Then less than a day later, she did this tweet, disappeared for a week, and when she came back said she would collab with whoever, whenever, and that was the end of it. just a reminder that she was with Mori during that week-long break

Anonymous Sun Jun 4 03:04:44 2023 No.50728861

>>50725906
>The point is during a special unarchived member stream, Kronii took the time to read these posts, out loud on stream, in an effort to better understand what these people were unhappy about. And for a brief moment, that won her a lot of love and respect.

why did she even did this? KEK

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 03:05:45 2023 No.50728940 File: 53 KB, 1280x150, Untitled.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5072590 >>50728401 picrel is the end result

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 03:07:28 2023 No.50729075 File: 18 KB, 112x112, 1664840837229903.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Every time I see faggots argue about anything on this board I read each post in a woman's voice, isn't that weird.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 03:09:03 2023 No.50729176 >>50726642 And that is why you will never be accepted into Hololive, keep sending your shitty audition vods in vain

Anonymous Sun Jun 4 03:09:51 2023 No.50729227

>>50725906
This is unironically the most sane description of the problem I've read yet. The issue is not even being parasocial or not, it's about trust and being able to take a decision and face its consequences. What Kronii did was take a direction, then do a full 180 without a stated reason and with no explanation nor taking any questions. The topic was closed and never opened again, even if what she chose was completely denying what Kronii took hours trying to understand in that members stream.

That's, honestly, cowardly. And a blatant betrayal. If she didn't want to feel constricted by parasocialism she should ve just told the truth. Stuff would've been ugly for a bit, yes, but part of her fanbase - me included - would've appreciated the honesty. The courage to state your opinion. Because she is the streamer. She decides. She can of course ask for suggestions or help, but the ultimate decision is hers.

She should've just took a decision and stick to it. Not spend hours trying to understand only to backtrack onto her words a day later with a dry 2 lines tweet.
That's what made me go away, not the parasocial shit. The real problem is that she can't be trusted, and she clearly has no regards for owning her own words.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 03:10:09 2023 No.50729254 kronies are fucking retards who were too blinded by a model with big tits to see several very obvious red flags. ever thus to coomers

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 03:22:09 2023 No.50730082 All of this to say antis living rent free in the clocks head Stay black Kronii

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 03:30:19 2023 No.50730658 very entertaining thread

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 03:43:58 2023 No.50731536 >>50729176 Doesn't it contradict the previous statement, since Kronie doesn't know and made it? Mori lack of Hololive knowledge too.

Anonymous Sun Jun 4 03:53:46 2023 No.50732221

>>50725906
> Basically Kronii did not have a lot of things going for her as a streamer early on. She had the Wada model and a nice voice. But she wasn't great at zatsudan, she wasn't great at games, and she wasn't great at singing, she also did karaoke pretty rarely.
I was one of the people who checked her out first when Council debuted. Sure, Wada model and voice were buffs, but like most people, that stuff is only a good draw. Eventually, you stay for the content.
Her zatsus were really quiet, and she gave off that doomer vibe early. At first I thought “ok, it’s just a character”, and then after a few weeks “well, she was probably genuinely depressed before getting into HoloEN. Here’s hoping being in Council and making new friends helps her depression.”
After several months, I went “nothing personal, I’m just not into her content” and drifted away not out of animosity, but because I just didn’t find her streams compelling enough to click on.
The reason I said all this was that the whole time, I was giving her and everyone else the benefit of the doubt. To me, I thought that surely, everyone who got into HoloEN wanted to be there since there were so many applicants to choose from. Yes, I was naive and didn’t understand the full extent of Omega and EN management’s retardation.
When the whole Tempus shitstorm started up, I thought her response was kind of stupid, but I still assumed she knew what she was doing.
Now that I’m more familiar with the situation and with what Kronii’s content became after I stopped watching her, it’s pretty clear she never knew what she was doing. That’s the only way whoever it was (whether Mori or twitter homobeggars or someone else) managed to convince her that her own fans were schizos or something.
So of course she’s getting such shit numbers and still a doomer even though she finally managed to make enough money to move away from her abusive home situation. There is not a single hire in EN worse than Kronii. Not even Sana, because at least she had the self-awareness to fuck off when it became clear she had no intention of committing to Hololive.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 03:55:20 2023 No.50732339 >>50671383 imagine coping this hard

Anonymous Sun Jun 4 04:05:04 2023 No.50733010

>>50708718
I'm honestly just confused why anyone is still having issues coping with this. Like we're halfway through 2023 and this was 2022 shit. Just move on already and if you can't then you're beyond help and should take a long walk off a short bridge.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 04:17:07 2023 No.50733904 >>50730082 >antis living rent free in the clocks head anon Kronii didn't make this thread

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 04:29:35 2023 No.50734536 >>50664274 wtf she's so based for that

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 04:30:56 2023 No.50734607 kronii betrayed me. I told her to stop collaabing with men she said okay and then told me i change my mind i collab with whoever i want

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 04:37:19 2023 No.50734928 Kronii betrayed me. She put the worst personality to the absolute sex that is Wada Arco's design.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 04:41:05 2023 No.50735084 >>50725906 tldr

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 04:42:38 2023 No.50735145 >>50715155 Given what Hololive is and where Mori was, she should have maintained being a 5 view like Gura. If she were in Ninjisanji, she'd be a low 3 view. Any where else, a 2 view.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 04:44:32 2023 No.50735215 File: 130 KB, 499x499, 9c850c9922f8ac4106abd672843fcf92eff6208c9018afc01f1fc0fe6116a0f4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>50719350 Lemme guess, you want to be in the next Parrot4chan video

Anonymous Sun Jun 4 04:45:19 2023 No.50735242

>>50721421
>the vtuber model, the kayfabe and the content is all shit we, the audience, the fans, control or we leave.
>If you don't accept this agreement, you will never be able to garner any fans that would be willing to give you any money.
Nice of you for putting your derangement out in the open for everyone to see. So that anyone with a brain won't cater to you without a second thought.

Anonymous Sun Jun 4 04:45:46 2023 No.50735263

>>50735084
>complaints about Tempus happened
>Kronii did a members unarchived karaoke where she read most of the reasonable complaints live on stream
>console them and made an agreement
>the next day she already broke one the agreement
>a week later she takes it all back and decided to do what she wants paired with the HoloEN ''please dont harass'' tweet

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 04:47:58 2023 No.50735356 >>50735263 Maybe she came to her sense that you fucks are lunatics and aren't worth keeping around.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 04:48:41 2023 No.50735384 >>50735356 >you I only made the TLDR, you retard

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 04:49:32 2023 No.50735419 >>50735384 Whatever. My point still stands.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 04:50:24 2023 No.50735445 >>50664274 It's funny because starmins also hate her not only for initiating drama with Tempus but also for stealing Shien's monologue and not crediting him until his fans called her out on it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 04:51:57 2023 No.50735512 >>50735445 >until his fans called her out on it when did this happen?

Anonymous Sun Jun 4 04:52:04 2023 No.50735518
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>>50721421
WWF (Before it's WWE) put up kayfabe tightly up until 1989 when McMahon finally talk about Kayfabe concept in court. After that a lot of wrestlers break Kayfabe and no one blink an eye.

You must be a literal naive child or a total moron if you think kayfabe is unbreakable.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 04:53:31 2023 No.50735571 >>50723462 Ironically Abe's shooter said that he did it because his family became too parasocial with a cult that's been backed up by Abe for decades.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 04:53:47 2023 No.50735585 >>50663979 >>50664274 >>50664358 >>50666413 Maybe, just maybe, you are part of the problem. Ever think of that?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 04:55:17 2023 No.50735650 >>50725569 Holy shit man it's a underwear post after they lost a batsu game. It's pretty much a fucking banter, a nothingburger. You're the type who got offended at every joke.

Anonymous Sun Jun 4 04:55:39 2023 No.50735665

>>50735512
>Shien made a Mafia cover back in 2021
>He came up with a monologue alongside his EN fans on a membership stream
>Kronii makes a Mafia cover and uses his monologue, his name is not in the MV or in the description.
>His fans call her out
>Shien has to quote her cover to specify that's his monologue
>"Ohhh well actually I wanted to credit him properly but my manager didn't give me the ok so I didn't. I just saw it and include it because I thought It was edgy and funny."
>She ends up putting his name on the 5th line of the description

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 04:58:47 2023 No.50735791 >>50735665 >"Ohhh well actually I wanted to credit him properly but my manager didn't give me the ok so I didn't'' This is 100% a lie hahaha what a fucking bitch

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 05:01:09 2023 No.50735888 File: 580 KB, 2300x1900, 1640273841192.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>50725906 This is you

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 05:04:15 2023 No.50736016 >>50735791 She probably didn't know who Shien was and discovered the cover because of Bae.

Anonymous Sun Jun 4 05:04:36 2023 No.50736038

>>50677011
>>50678730
Taytay was le cute girl, then she was le hot 1989 zoomer, now she is le fat no ass 34yo boomer.

Damn she really 34 that's cray tay I remember her being 28 and thinking she should hurry up and marry some rich guy. And look at her now.

Anonymous Sun Jun 4 05:07:35 2023 No.50736163

>>50735585
>Bae collabed with males and did fine
>Mori collabed with males and did fine
Gee, anon, it seems like for the most part, people who actually have a problem with the males just fuck off quietly. And it’s only when the vtuber acts like an asshole that people vent about it /here/.
>muh containment breakers
You know what I do when I see people praising Kronii, Mori, Ame, Ina, or Gura (the HoloEN members I can’t stand the most)? I keep my mouth shut and maybe roll my eyes. Like the vast majority of anons. Of course with so many people annoyed by their shit you’re going to see containment breakers. What do you want to do about it, change the laws of statistics or invent mind control so we all magically love their mediocre content and downright annoying behavior? I don’t really care about them, they can do whatever they want. What I hate are faggots like you who think this is some proxy for the culture wars and that all of us are somehow siding with the fascists just because we don’t like a vtuber.

Anonymous Sun Jun 4 05:08:01 2023 No.50736185

It's just amazing to see these unicorns don't have self awareness
They keep claiming that they're above Japanese regarding this matter
But now it's just the same repeat of "SHE STILL COLLABING WITH MEN! I'M SO ANGREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEH! ad nauseum
>>50735888
lol Baalbuddy is on point again.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 05:10:18 2023 No.50736270 What really matters here is that every single problem with EN, literally every single fucking problem with EN, absolutely every problem with EN would never have happened if Holostars EN was never created. No matter how deep in denial you may be.

Anonymous Sun Jun 4 05:11:33 2023 No.50736316

>>50736016
I find a lot of anons in here to be hyperbolic with their descriptions of Kronii. I genuinely think most of her shitty behavior is down to ignorance and stupidity, not malice. I still shit on her for it, because to me it doesn’t make a difference. I just think she’s a moron, not a snake or a bitch.
Being ignorant enough about how vtubing works to be so easily convinced that thousands of kronies pouring their hearts out to her are all secretly malicious schizos is still shitty. You don’t have to ascribe that to malice to think it’s deplorable behavior. I’ve never been parasocial with a vtuber to that extent and can’t empathize with that at all, but I would also never go out of my way to antagonize them when there’s no real reason to.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 05:11:57 2023 No.50736329 >>50736270 I hate ENStars but really, the girls being lazy entitled western cunts is not the fault of Stars.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 05:13:40 2023 No.50736391 >>50663979 Do they also support their talents inactivities? Asking for some chumcucks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 05:14:04 2023 No.50736400 >>50736329 >Gura had a billion projects and plans >OOPS! homotime >loses all motivation after seeing how hard Cover was forcing them and favoring everything they did Everything is as clear as day as long as you aren't blind.

Anonymous Sun Jun 4 05:15:53 2023 No.50736469

>>50736329
if they debuted EN3 and 4 instead of Tempus1 and 2, the lazy cunt effects will not be as bad, as t here will 8 or 10 more girls who will be taking their place. Literally the same thing with HoloJP, nowadays no one bats an eye on Ayame, Aqua, Shion etc etc because there's a ton more options for JP fans to watch

Anonymous Sun Jun 4 05:17:11 2023 No.50736505

What I don't understand is how some of these kronies can claim to have loved Kronii, yet they don't want her to have fun and do whatever she wants. The way I see it, I'd rather my oshi does that, than pretend to be happy while doing something they hate, leading to them growing depressed or suffering from imposter syndrome leading up to their premature graduation. I respect tubers that play their favourite games even if said games may filter a lot of people.

Perhaps Holo Vtubers should have a limited shelf life. The people behind the tubers should be able to go on to get married and have a family. They better not stream that shit though.

Anonymous Sun Jun 4 05:27:42 2023 No.50736937

>>50736505
>claim to have loved Kronii, yet they don't want her to have fun and do whatever she wants. The way I see it, I'd rather my oshi does that, than pretend to be happy while doing something they hate
if she did not do that unarchived karaoke, I would've just fuck off and change oshis. She's a manipulative bitch, this is why I hate her with passion. The difference with her and Gura, Gura is lazy and never communicates, that's it. Kornii manipulated her fans, then hide behind the management tweet for the expected backlash for what she did. This is why although some chumbuds is disappointed with Gura, they never hated her and still watch her once a month stream, you can't say the same with Kronii.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 05:56:09 2023 No.50738033 >>50710974 The ones who keep bringing up doxx material were homobeggars, just look at any Gura thread. Fucking retard.

Anonymous Sun Jun 4 05:58:52 2023 No.50738129

>>50725906
i'm not an unicorn, in fact i think you guys are really fucking retarded most of the time. but all of these replies only proves your point. a chuuba should never do something like that to their audience, that's just evil. she should have made her boundaries clear from the start like bae.
also what the fuck happened? i remember half a year ago or so when unicorns were the majority, i'd shit on you niggers with no end in sight, but it seems like the sisters have taken over this site recently, did the doxsite shut down or something? i'd much rather have you faggots than these chink sisters, show yourselves more and scare off these bug people please. then we can go back to calling each other cucks and schizos in peace like we used to.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 06:03:04 2023 No.50738296 >>50738129 >but it seems like the sisters have taken over this site recently we watch streams, sisters would never

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 06:18:44 2023 No.50738898 >>50667734 >If you make fun of unicorns, you must be a fujo! Do unicorns really?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 06:28:47 2023 No.50739261 >>50729075 Probably. I picture greasy fat child-men and stick-thin men gathering together over this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 06:31:28 2023 No.50739364 >>50725133 Bad influence because you lot cant influence and subjugate her. You fool no one.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 06:41:49 2023 No.50739699 >>50708032 I only dislike "homobeggars" because it gives unicorns ammo, that good? Most would say to not fall to any extremes and I agree with that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 06:52:27 2023 No.50740040 >>50728401 Mori is unironically the snake in the garden of hololive

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 07:13:20 2023 No.50740748 >>50740040 Reminder that still crying about pink woman outs you as a tourist that hasn't watched a steam since 2021 and only checks in here for the drama.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 07:23:09 2023 No.50741077 File: 118 KB, 1024x999, judai_yuki.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>50663979 >They have to play their cards right ALL RIGHT ANON LETS GET OUR GAME ON~ SHOW ME JUST HOW WELL YOU CAN PLAY THOSE CARDS

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 07:24:13 2023 No.50741118 >>50740748 Quaso

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 07:25:00 2023 No.50741154 >>50725906 >>50729227 that’s nice and all, but you used reddit spacing

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 07:36:09 2023 No.50741486 File: 4 KB, 389x94, chrome_Hs8jY6hhsi.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>50741154 I never reply to myself

Anonymous Sun Jun 4 07:41:54 2023 No.50741644
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>>50706184
Late reply, but she was called Mano Aloe back then you can just google her name and you'll find her story. Bulletpoints:
> she debuted with Lamy, Botan, Nene, and Polka
>tried (with managerial permission) an alternate outfit on a personal account
>someone hacked her password on said account and doxxed her
>she started getting stalked/harassed
>Cover, which really doesn't give a flying fuck about the girls, does absolutely nothing to protect her and instead publicly blame her for the situation, making her issue a public apology before a 2-week penalty ban
>right as the ban is about to end, they decide to just outright graduate her
>her genmates (who had no idea this was coming either) livestream minutes after the termination is announced; most of them start crying before the video is over
>terminated, but still getting harassed/stalked
>decides she can't take it anymore and tries to end her life by jumping, but gets snagged on a tree on the way down and winds up badly injured but alive
>hospitalized
>meanwhile, her fans (who, at this point, only know about her termination and not her suicide attempt) are sending her letters of support and encouraging her to try again
>after being released, decides to try out again as an indie
I'm sure the Coverdrones are going to call me a Nijiliarwhatever, so do your own google search if you're unsure. The incident's pretty well documented and in offers a look into how HoloLive actually thinks of the girls off camera.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 07:43:54 2023 No.50741682 >50741644 ogey

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 07:47:36 2023 No.50741789 >>50705942 >Nijisis dox Aloe from her accidentally posting a vid on her socials. >Nijisis bully Aloe into near suicide for her past life talking about their members. >"It was totally Cover I swear!" Why are Nijisis like this?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 07:51:15 2023 No.50741885 >>50741077 Holo YGO perms...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 07:52:45 2023 No.50741925 >>50663979 cute larp

Anonymous Sun Jun 4 07:55:31 2023 No.50742009

>>50741644
>decides she can't take it anymore and tries to end her life by jumping, but gets snagged on a tree on the way down and winds up badly injured but alive
>hospitalized
>meanwhile, her fans (who, at this point, only know about her termination and not her suicide attempt) are sending her letters of support and encouraging her to try again
>after being released, decides to try out again
This reads like a scene from a black comedy.

Anonymous Sun Jun 4 08:01:57 2023 No.50742180

Kronii was not fit for Hololive it's bizarre that they'd pick her but to be honest all of HoloEN is full of terrible choices maybe that's why they refuse to debut EN3 they just know it's going to be a shit show too until hey can solve their internal issue with casting.
Seriously how can the biggest vtuber company have such a terrible hiring process for their international branch?
They've hired 11 talents and besides the one that straight up quit just count how many of them are on constant breaks, or have given up streaming under their Holo character, or have burned out or picked up fights with their audience.
They're lazy, entitled, lack ethics, have no common sense or any sense of gratitude for the amazing job they have.

Anonymous Sun Jun 4 08:05:27 2023 No.50742282

>>50741644
nice revisionism, nijisis. i see you glossed the fact it was primarily nijifans flinging shit at her and of course you make it seem like cover forced her to graduate. i know you're used to niji standards but cover isn't like nijisanji (cough cough yugo), it was her own decision

Anonymous Sun Jun 4 08:13:53 2023 No.50742493

>>50741644
Oh cute, a nijinigger who's still trying to shift the blame on holofans for 3 years. JP nijinignogs are formed by the old underground NND and 2ch folks, who already have proven history of bullying people they don't like to their hanging ropes. Why is it so hard to believe they're responsible for Aloe's rm offhand comment when they had done worse shit before?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 08:14:16 2023 No.50742504 >>50742180 Kronii is moderately successful. I'm not sure what makes you think she's not fit when she's very average. Cover doesn't give a fuck about pleasing our schizo asses.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 08:15:41 2023 No.50742540 Everyone, MEDS. NOW!

Anonymous Sun Jun 4 08:18:40 2023 No.50742638

>>50742504
Kronii has lost over 50% of her audience and caused PR disasters so bad the company had to get involved and take a bullet for her, her numbers are still big compared to small corpo but they are shit compared to HoloJP and a fucking joke compared to her debut numbers.
Saying she's successful is like calling the new starwars trilogy a success. Yeah, it sold tickets. But the IP has value, the product itself has only been a disappointed and devalued the brand's legacy.
Before Kronii people could trust the Hololive brand more, she has actually done damage to it.
They could have gotten any average indie to play the big titty wada character and she would have done better.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 08:21:52 2023 No.50742711 >>50742638 Wow, I guess they should literally execute Kiara, Bae, Ame, and Mori for being even bigger failures then. Also, >PR Disasters I am laughing.

Anonymous Sun Jun 4 08:27:22 2023 No.50742870

>>50742711
Bae has always been low, Kiara has actually gotten bigger and does more than just stream, Mori still pulls through with her music career even though yes her stream numbers have taken a huge hit as well, Ame is definitely a fuck up too at this point but she at least was essential to the early success of HoloEN because she was behind many of the cool special events they had since Cover does nothing to support the branch.
Kronii has never offered anything of value. She merely exists. She got numbers early because of her models, she never managed to grow because she's boring and she lost them because she's a bitch.
And yeah that is a PR disaster, at least for Hololive standards. I know "streamer is a whore, shits on her fans, lies and loses most of her audience" is not as juicy as everything NijiEN does any given month but it's still one of the most discussed and polarizing subjects that has come out of HoloEN and that's not a good thing.
The fact that people have to defend her is just proof that she fucked up otherwise this would not be an issue at all. No one has to rush and be Ina's defense force because nothing she has done has been this bad, or Mumei, or Irys, etc.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 08:28:20 2023 No.50742890 >>50663979 if this is vshoju?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 08:33:19 2023 No.50743012 >>50742870 Ina did arguably worse, disappearing for 3 months and the lame health hort and internet hort excuses(She was in Japan and just didn't want to tell anyone)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 08:35:33 2023 No.50743082 >>50743012 Those were just long breaks not actual fuckups. Her numbers and her community are still the same as before and things pretty much just went back to normal after her return.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 08:36:55 2023 No.50743121 >>50743082 It's not normal to say "internet hort sorry" for 3 months as if she doesn't have phone service and ghost everyone.

Anonymous Sun Jun 4 08:41:51 2023 No.50743252

>>50743121
She just had a long vacation which is fine sometimes, lying sucks but it's not out of the norm among vtubers.
I agree it would be nice if vtubers were better at communicating with their community openly but some vtubers just prefer to ghost people sometimes. HoloEN as a whole has a bad problem with breaks but that can be blamed on the fact that they only have 10 fucking members.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 09:00:52 2023 No.50743812 >>50741644 >after being released from prison?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 09:03:31 2023 No.50743902 >>50743812 Mental ward, which aren't a fun place in Japan

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