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Ones where you're not mad or you might not even dislike them but just sad on how things turned out?

>> No.50052563

>>50052543
Hololive EN was a mistake.

>> No.50053142

>>50052563
EN shit was gonna happen with or without them anyways.

>> No.50053191
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>>50052543
I still like Koopa tbdesu

>> No.50053206

Futakuchi Mana

>> No.50053469

>>50053191
I don't dislike her just wish she stay how she was at the start how she acts now feels a lot different and didn't change models so much...original the best, how do they keep getting worst?

>> No.50053523

>>50052543
Aqua ... I wish she would be back to her old self but the internet did her dirty too many times.

>> No.50053576

>>50053191
cuck

>> No.50053612

>>50052543
Artemis of the Blue
She (with a penis) is just too bland of a streamer to be engaging.

>> No.50053616

>>50052543
Gura could have the world if she just hit the go live button...

>> No.50053631

>>50052543
Sava
I followed her when she debut in Kawaii and was a day 1 member for her. I ignored and defend her against shitty /wvt/ anti and rrats from day 1 because I am somewhat aware of certain /wvt/ clique being against her. I was looking past a lot of her flaws and just saw it as the result of a bit of menhera (which I don't mind that much)
She really let me down in the end.

>> No.50053762

>>50052543
this board. holy fuck it went to shit real fast

>> No.50053763

>>50053576
Obsessed

>> No.50053787

>>50053612
Couldn't come up with anything at first, but now that you mentioned it, the Artemis debut was a collective disappointment.
It did coincide with Africat's nth redebut, so that was something atleast

>> No.50053808

>>50052543
Kiki.

>> No.50053826

>>50052543
-I wish Koopa wasn't so sick, but it is what it is.
-holoEN is just too vanilla and boring
-Haachama's problems and hiatuses
-Pomu stuck on nijiEN and losing the OG Lazulight days
-Bea graduating
Everything else is going well for the ones I'm interested in.

>> No.50053863

>>50052543
Tsukumo Sana. Nice girl, but when I saw her model for the first time, I thought Hololive was finally getting a gyaru. Obviously I couldn't have been further from the truth.

>> No.50053871

>>50053762
It was doomed from the start:
>social media intertwined with the hobby
>explosive raise in popularity, not enough time for newfags to assimilate
>e-celeb and woman oriented (either the talents or the fans)
>draconian moderation in other places making retards come here for drama and edgyness
>taking the unicorn and idol larp from JP culture without understanding said idol culture
>SEA
>tribalism

>> No.50053887

>>50053762
It's always been shit, newfag we bitch about cartoon streamers for god's sake.

>> No.50053889

>>50053808
She's still trying her best anon...

>> No.50053964

>>50053889
nta but Kiki... I know

>> No.50054025

>>50053871
Sometimes I think we should have just stayed in /jp/.

>> No.50054090

>>50053191
I think you meant Cuckpa

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>>50052543
Holy fuck, way too many to count. I've been a regular in almost every general on this board.
My biggest disappointment is the absolute state of current NijiEN after the god-tier 6 months of lazusidya.
There's also a very personal one: there was a tomboy 2view I followed that graduated, she loved jrpgs, was a nice singer and artist. Decided to follow her roommate and she was a very different person, a nonbinary nijisister. I was very upset that I didn't realize sooner.. It soured that half a year she was my oshi.

>> No.50054149

>>50052543
I like Koopa and her legendary origin story, but I feel like she's kind of dated. There's so many EN vtubers now, and many are /here/ to some extent.

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>>50052543
IRyS, she did not live up to my expectations for a vsinger so I ended up watching more JP and EN indies that sing and churn out covers. To be fair to her, I'd primarily blame omega for how she was managed and produced, and also what kind of opportunities she was given to be a vsinger. She herself seems content with her trajectory now, which is good.

>>50053787
Oh yeah I was in that africat trash thread, kino MC content, too. The concernfagging was a little annoying.

>>50053631
pkg warned you

>> No.50055235

>>50054733
Pkg was flooded with /wvt/ schizo and tourists when gen 3 debut so I don't know who to listen to. She was the only vtuber that I was proven wrong about.

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>>50052543
These 3 when they left vshojo

>> No.50055460

>>50053889
nta but before her debut I was expecting her to be a an educational vtuber who focuses on biology/animal stuff so I was disappointed when she went down the gfe route
I watch her and like her, I think she's doing good, it's just not what I was expecting

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>>50052543
This mother fucker had everything going for him
Great model
Massive hype leached from gura
Turned out to be the worst streamer to ever grace western vtubing literal bottom of the barrel

>> No.50055638

>>50052543
Coco/Kson

>> No.50055671

>>50053469
mommyfags ruin everything

>> No.50055744

>>50053191
Ok koopa go back to self posting in wvt

>> No.50055768

>>50053469
You know how some women buy shitloads of shoes or purses, and then only use them once or twice? Well, women like Koopa or Ironmouse are like that, but with Live2D models.

>> No.50055829

>>50052563
FPBP
Sad that it was Ame who brought most of the western woman baggage.

>> No.50055883

>>50054025
if the vtuber threads had stuck to generals we might have. the problem is that it started to get spammed the way the /vt/ catalog does now and /qa/ raids were becoming more frequent. it's no surprise everyone got pissed off
that said, if /vt/ was never created then the only place to discuss en vtubers would be /wvt/ in /trash/

>> No.50056252

>>50052563
forgive them

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>>50052543
Charolette Van Halen.
She's talented but self sabotages a lot of her own stuff without realizing it. Back when I followed her she complained about having low CCV but I would wake up to find out she streamed at like 12-4am for no reason other than shitty sleep schedule. She would also freak out in her discord over stuff most people wouldn't notice if she didn't bring it up like discord drama or get into beefs with literal who's in her discord. Eventually I just stopped discord hopping to her newer severs. She has an incredible knack for art and can obviously put out with models, art, and commissions but I can't stand to watch someone throw a wrench in their own spokes so hard.

>> No.50057867

>>50055671
Yeah Koopa was better before they got to her.
>>50055768
Never thought of it that way.

>> No.50057903

>>50057241
>Joining a vtuber Discord.
that's a mistake you should no better.

>> No.50057916

>>50052543
Watson obviously. Tempiss changed her. I improved myself, watch someone else, but still sad when thinking about who she used to be

>> No.50058013

>>50053762
Why would you have hope? A lot of the trash that was flushed out by the speed of the /jp/ threads was given a nice and slow space to survive and spread.

>> No.50058024

>>50057916
I get you might be an unicorn and shit but did she really change? seems the same to me aside from hanging with dudes.

>> No.50058077
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>>50052543
HoloEN

>> No.50058262

>>50053808
Which one? lol

>> No.50058291

AZKi not being a twintailed loli is my biggest disappointment. She was so cute. I want the twintails back.

>> No.50058303

>>50054149
>I feel like she's kind of dated
Besides the cuck story and boneitis this is her biggest problem. Why would I watch her when there's hundreds of other /here/ EN vtubers who fill the same role better?

>> No.50058357

>>50055599
Nice dubs but yeah that was the issue. It was a red flag off the back when he came out around the same time as Gura. It seemed too coincidental on trannyshark's debut when Holomyth rolled around.

>> No.50058369

>>50052543
mori. could you imagine how big she could be if she didnt think fumble so hard?

>> No.50058448

>>50053871
You forget Jannies killing any native culture taking root to turbo charge tribalism.

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>>50052543
She could have stayed as a well known name and be seen as the most known OG out there. Instead she stopped streaming regularly without any fanfare and faded into obscurity with the rest of her associates. She deserved so much better than what she got...

>> No.50058470

>>50058303
Her appeal use to be she was like the cool retrofag with anime and games kinda like a weeb version of Vinny but she seem to completely drop that for some reason and just became kinda generic HAHA FUNNY SEX JOKES AND MEMES bullshit and here's a trash indie game or same shit everyone else plays.

>> No.50058532

>>50052543
Project Kawaii in general. It's supposed to be a company specifically dedicated to being unicorn-friendly. And Nene and Oceane in particular were god-tier for GFE and ASMR. But they all turned out to be shitlib Tumblrinas, and many of them awful, catty, vindictive people behind the scenes as well.

>> No.50058608

>>50052543
All of western vtubing

>> No.50058661

>>50058369
She's an awkward mess, it was always going to happen.

>> No.50058690

>>50058532
Still the most unicorn friendly corpo out there, none of what you said changes that.

>> No.50058750

>>50058532
>Project Kawaii
There is no project Kawaii, retard. it's Production Kawaii, you tourist faggot, probably one of the ex-gen3 traitors gay viewers.

>> No.50058754

>>50058369
>could you imagine how big she could be if she didnt think fumble so hard?
No the success she had was already far more than I could've imagine for her

>> No.50058768

>>50058690
True. I didn't mean to imply they aren't. It's just that the other things ruined it for me, personally.

>> No.50058788

>>50058750
Hi Nene

>> No.50058798

>>50058464
I never understood how she managed to fuck up that hard
Literal godfather of vtubing and all she does with it is create 8 new youtube channels and become a nobody

>> No.50058831

>>50058661
>>50058754
Yeah her being a mess kinda lead to her success...ha rhymes.

>> No.50058833

>>50058750
>Minor typo
>tourist faggot newfag nigger cunt seething femanon afklkjslkdjfkjklalejsn
ogey

>> No.50058866

>>50058833
That's not what typo means.

>> No.50058873

>>50058788
Actually Nene was the one who kept calling it Project Kawaii in her first months at the company.

>> No.50058929

>>50058866
It *was* a typo actually, because I knew it was Production, not Project, but momentarily got it mixed up since so many other companies/talents use Project. It's also been a while since I've watched anyone in Kawaii.

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>>50052543
Kotoka
Loved her hag laugh, loved her model, loved her stench gimmick and her singing voice.
But she's so.. boring. She keeps talking to herself. She streams for long ass hours but she kind of sucks at it. Her dead air is genuinely worse than Mori's because of how she kind of fades into it. She had this thing where she would talk about something, but just kind of retreated to herself. It's really cute, but it got really boring. I truly did want her to be my oshi.

>> No.50058942

>>50056252
I have, but bridges have been burnt.

>> No.50058982

>>50058939 (Me)
Granted, I stopped watching her around month 3. maybe things have changed and she's gotten better.

>> No.50058991

>>50058833
>Phase Link
>Prism Production
>EIEN Task
>Idol Company
kek

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Pikamee betraying VOMS

>> No.50059019

>>50052543
NijiEN lazusydia days were so good. its sad to see what they have become, and now I am their anti

>> No.50059036

>>50058750
cut him some slack, those small corpos are all alike

>> No.50059041

I still enjoy Koopa. I do miss the day streams and I think she's said before she does too, but her life is too busy in the day for them now. Sucks her immune system is shit.
Also I don't really agree with >>5005567. She's definitely not a mommyfag vtuber like Milky. Mommy in the way of being your mother who's brain was ruined from having kids.

>> No.50059061

>>50058991
There has to have been at least one person who unironically typed Prism Connect

>> No.50059073

>>50059018
Oh shit same...poor Tomoshika, bless her heart.

>> No.50059115

>>50059061
>AkioAETHER
>VTräumerei
it goes on

>> No.50059153

>>50059018
Pikamee was VOMS. Can't blame her for not wanting to prop them up anymore

>> No.50059172

>>50058532
Kawaii fucked up so hard with gen 3 it's honestly impressive

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>>50052543
I am one of those who actually wanted history/strategy streamers.
It took a year or even two for them to finally appear.
Mumei is just the most average girl existing and I'm tired of pretending that those faggots who astroturf about her to this very day aren't newfags.

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>>50052543
This retard for letting the secret discord club ruin her vtubing experience.

>> No.50059431

>>50059172
The whole thing was so fucked up and complicated that I still don't even know who was in the wrong between Oceane, the rest of Gen 3, and the remaining talents--or if they all were.

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>>50052543
For me it's Milky

>https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1779277549?t=00h24m55s
>https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1779277549?t=0h35m52s
>https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1779277549?t=0h49m3s
>https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1779277549?t=1h21m27s
Actual NTR content with a male sex pest from a GFE mommy vtuber. They went on flirting live for 3+ hours.
How does a /here/chuba with 3 years of experience fuck up this bad?

>> No.50059501

>>50052563
Yeah... I had such high hopes in the beginning for them too. The loss of Coco (and what she later morphed into) also stung pretty hard.

>> No.50059570

>>50052543
If you are all into schizo shit and fanfic writing trash is trying to fix the timelines

Can you save bea and turn her into Holo?
Come and find out >>>trash/.56737441

>> No.50059572

Like 80% of western btubing.

>> No.50059755

>>50059501
Coco was never good....I understand why Mori cringed when she was on her stream (funny they're friends though and Mori might be worst) but yeah I never understood the appeal of Mickey Mouse ass voice HAHA FUNNY SEX JOKES REDDIT MEMES shit, if anything she started it.

>> No.50059921

>>50059186
Man imagine if EN2 kept their stuff thematic to their 'element'.

>> No.50059948
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The absolute state of Gawr Gura right now. No streams, no tweets, no community posts, no transparency, only ghosting and inactivity. I'm glad Kiara is trying to get her to do stuff with the collabs they had, but it's not enough for me.

>> No.50059979

>>50059921
None of them are good enough to do that

>> No.50060164

>>50059445
Who actually donates to these whores? The amount of lack of self confidence to give your money to an online e-whore who cucks you in realtime.
>b-b-but muh entertainment
Cope and seethe

>> No.50060238

>>50060164
Just don't donate to anyone, no matter how much you may trust them, and you'll never run into this problem.

>> No.50060330

>>50060164
>Give money to anyone online and not getting something physical in return.
Rather pointless and retarded in my opinion, you should get something for your money.

>> No.50060369

>>50060238
this

>> No.50060561

>>50053631
After I dropped Ame because of her spamming homo collabs I got recommended Sava in /here/. I tried watching her but I never got into her.

I dodged a bullet lmao.

>> No.50060632

>>50053523
qrd?

>> No.50060729

>>50053612
Didn’t follow that after her (male) debut. What happened? Just stopped streaming?

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>>50052543
Enna, unironically.
I used to watch holo + indies only, I've only ever heard of niji when their 3rd gen was announced. I checked out the designs and I immediately liked Enna's, mainly because it's a loli and it's cute.
Fast forward to their debut, I was highly anticipating greatness. The voice reveal did throw me off at first but I pushed through and gave her a chance. I liked the extremely crude humor, to me it's quite unheard of in terms of vtubers. At this point I got used to the voice. I also loved the singing, I checked PL leaks and was pleasantly surprised to discover that I've already been following her long ago. Definitely made me like her more. I liked the anti-social jokes, I liked the virgin jokes, I liked the kill myself jokes, all because it was funnily relatable.
It all went downhill when she started collabing with people. Sure, some of her best moments were in those streams, but one collab partner soured me in particular. It's yellow pogman. To me, this is where the flirting began. And I didn't like that. I watched her less and less until I found myself clicking on the unsubscribe button.
When I saw the collab where she and the wigger held hands, I felt pissed off and convinced myself to not care only a few minutes after. Now I totally don't give a fuck anymore and even want her gone after knowing she's genuinely a shitty person beyond the realm of jokes.
I'd like to say wasted potential, but she was fated to go down this path with the kind of person she is. I even sometimes rewatch some of her older streams when I find myself doing nothing in my free time.
>inb4 post your membership
I didn't have any, never had any. But I have watched every single one of her streams until I decided not to.
P.S. I'm not the Ennaschizo but I legit wish I had an ounce of his dedication.

>> No.50060860

>>50055599
>Tranny wants to ride off of Gura hype
>voice
>doesn’t use cunny model
>voice
>doesn’t even focus on her blue aesthetic
>voice
>literally just shark teeth and lore to relate to gura
>voice that is such a massive filter that it could filter clean water out of straight sewage

>> No.50060887

>>50060795
>Never had any.
Don't ever have one, don't be a dirty pay pig anon.

>> No.50061114

>>50059186
To be fair she was explicitly blocked from doing that for long-ass time

>> No.50061787

>>50052543
Kizuna Ai. My first. Sad it turned out this way.

>> No.50061870

>>50052543
kson, she managed to become an e-celleb but I couldn't care any less about that

>> No.50061979

>>50053871
>taking the unicorn and idol larp from JP culture without understanding said idol culture
Nice one sis, tell them who run this board!

>> No.50062091

>>50060632
apex happened

>> No.50062199

>>50052543
Chloe, amazing design with the mask and couldn't bother to play the Character that was in the profile or keep the mask on

>> No.50062243

>>50060632
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYNtyzqsLdU
Aqua was always a shit gamer blessed with INSANE luck that would create insanely hype pop-offs moments on stream. Her Apex tourney arc except for the final was a good showcase of this.

>> No.50062259

>>50052543
Coco, she became something

>> No.50062293

>>50053808
>>50053889
>>50053964
why are there so many fucking kikis. I know three kiki vtubers, are there any more?

>> No.50062345

>>50061979
He's not saying idol culture bad, he's saying that this board has a very weird idea of what idol culture is.

>> No.50062383

>>50052543
Coco/Kson
I thought she had far more creative ideas than.. whatever she had been doing for the last couple years. Maybe she really did need the hologirls to bounce off of to make her schtick work.

>> No.50062410

>>50060795
So many new vtuber girls look up to enna because of her singing but she's such a shitty person it's crazy.
What a disaster

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>>50052543
I loved NijiKRs members and dynamics as a group. Seeing it implode, the reincarnations, how people tried to stay in touch after but drifted away, peoples changes to their streaming style... even if all of the ones that graduated are still streaming except Mia... and all the ones that stayed are still streaming, it's not and will never be the same. It makes me look back with a sadness tinged nostalgia watching them.

>> No.50062503

>>50061979
retard

>> No.50062724

>>50059445
>How does a /here/chuba with 3 years of experience fuck up this bad?
By being a dumb bimbo. Also, no female is spared from having woman moments.

>> No.50062855

>>50062293
yeah there's a finnish kiki too

>> No.50062880

>>50062724
its crazy, having a male collab? not good but it can be forgiven in the right circumstances
being a gfe streamer flirting with a sex pest man for 3-4 hours and doing an ntr fellatio behind curtain "joke" ... milky...

>> No.50062914

>>50059445
>>/vt/?task=search&ghost=yes&search_text=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.twitch.tv%2Fvideos%2F1779277549
Why is this getting spammed? I guess she rubbed a SEA schizo numberfag the wrong way.

>> No.50062931

>>50062855
Jesus fucking christ
its all just kiki

>> No.50062972

>>50052543
/wvt/ and western vtubing in general

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>>50052543
At least she's happy right? :(

>> No.50063215

>>50052543
HoloEN. No contest.

>> No.50063320

>>50052543
Man, Koopa seemed so interesting but her stuff is just kinda bland when she actually does stream

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>>50052543
Elira. Plays lots of JRPGs but doesn't care about the story. Every stream i watched of her was mid. The cake takes her saying "last night... OMG last night i was... talking to ike" 2 minutes into the stream. Not even the bigges JP APEX whore would say that, they say something like "recent" or "last time" but not "last night" normaly i have to pay for my NTR voice works.

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>>50058798
Because Eilene burned her like every other thing they did and she got really pissed off at how Comdost "managed" her. She made a new YouTube but nobody knows about it because it doesn't mention her name - https://www.youtube.com/ravenmanor

I think the whole streaming on bilibili thing likely fucked over what was left because for a long time she prioritised that over Twitch which probably soured a lot of people. She had a group with a few other names and none of them are really relevant now. Harune graduated earlier in the year and Yuikai is only getting views on twitter because she puts up cosplay gravure now. Once you do bilibili you never regain what you lost.

It sucks because regardless of her effectively turning herself into a 2view she still had a regular following but eventually so many people gave up and unsubscribed / unfollowed / whatever.

>> No.50063641

>>50059445
Hot

>> No.50063674

>>50058448
This is what killed /vt/.
>deleted friendly, constructive threads like /meat/, /ag/, and /become/ because they were """off-topic"""
>let /#/ survive even though numberfaggotry was regularly punished on /jp/
>intentionally let the catalog be filled with tribalfaggotry and numberfaggotry 24/7

>> No.50063692

>>50063396
Boobies

>> No.50063740

>>50063449
... wait I thought she IS eilene? She was working on producing the videos and she certainly wasnt IN them?
>She made a new YouTube but nobody knows about it because it doesn't mention her name - https://www.youtube.com/ravenmanor
Yeah I know thats what I meant by 8 accounts
She uploaded one video announcing the new channel on her moe channel that was already small lmao
>It sucks because regardless of her effectively turning herself into a 2view she still had a regular following but eventually so many people gave up and unsubscribed / unfollowed / whatever.
Its hard to follow her when she just jumps ship every year

>> No.50063936

>>50063674
Modniggers also killed all boardculture across the site
Newfriend dont know but we used to have fun events like the 4chan ball and they made it bannable to crossboard and invite other boards to "dance" and such.
SO much fun every year destroyed like it was nothing.

>> No.50063985

>>50063740
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMjU6bJP38Q
Eilene was a character in a visual novel its creator, ICETEA, repurposed for use in sketch style scripted youtube videos. Mirai Akari, Natsumi Moe, Moemi & Yomemi spawned from there.
Not a babiniku and not a tranny. It's a character like Angry Videogame Nerd

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>>50063740
my understanding based on watching her stream was that she never had full access to the Moe account and that was causing problems, without the full access there were other people who had the keys and could have done some bad stuff with it - she's been pretty clear she wants to do stuff on her own and she certainly doesn't have a lot of good to say about comdost, who still streams on Twitch fairly regularly to their own crowd

Moe sure has a lot of subscribers but most of them are dead and likely watching hololive these days. All I'm saying is she certainly deserved better but just got fucked over so much, but at the same time, she also sabotaged herself. I will give her credit on one thing - she didn't resort to desperation and orbit vshojo to stay relevant unlike others. I don't think she was a fan of that group anyway, she did like one collab with those girls early on and then stopped doing stuff with them.

>> No.50064114

>>50059445
based NTR vtuber

>> No.50064116

>>50059318
What happened?

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>>50052543
>decent British streamer
>varied content, was doing decent numbers
>did a 180 and got a lewdtuber model that was ill fitting along with putting on a crappy voice filter to sound slutty
>said she did it because nobody would clip her as a panda loli (was not however a loli tuber and told people to watch fallenshadow for that content)
>loses views as results, doesn't get clipped, effectively turned into a joke and a great example of why model changes backfire hard
>seems to imply a return of the panda model again: https://twitter.com/Shizukougames/status/1660994356768112641
Like if she actually is going to return as the panda and admits she fucked up then good on her but the damage is already done. She might as well just try going corpo on a new identity instead.

>> No.50064335

>>50064264
Glad to see that it backfired

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Not the fault of Nene herself, but management and japanese autism keeps forcing her hand to stop doing things her way. Changed her thumbnail style, forced her to stop doodling like a maniac too.

>> No.50064579

>>50063674
>/meat/, /ag/, and /become/
too weird and offensive for normalfags
>/#/
it's the most active thread so it's good for the site
>catalog be filled with tribalfaggotry and numberfaggotry
dramafagging increases site activity so it's good for the site
4chan isnt a fun image board anymore, it exists to make money

>> No.50064834

>>50063674
I'll tell you a secret. # often goes off topic in friendly discussions since no one will bother us there.

>> No.50064842

>>50062914
she apologized a couple days for something that happened two months ago and then deleted it. it's her fault for pushing it into the forefront

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>>50052543
Don't know if this counts since i think it was supposed to be a late april fool's thing but i wish the Ghost-chan streams were still a thing. I'm still dissapointed it all ended in a silent indefinite hiatus.

>> No.50066599

>>50059445
I just caught up with this. I only listen to her asmrs which I love but that seems like an incredibly dumb move, no idea what was she thinking
>>50064842
>happened two months
>pushing it into the forefront
Maybe some of her old fans unsubbed and left after it or something and she noticed it now

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>>50052543
I thought Koopa had graduated by now, or at the very least died from her health complications.

>Clown/jester vtuber
>makes sexy art
>premise is cute
>variety type streamer
>gets into petty bitch fits and uses her twitter to go on a moral highhorse bringing up political or other topics {like currently throwing a fit about the use of retard}

The minute she first started about about shit and would keep going, including getting in on the hogwarts legacy shit and now the retard shit, I wasn't shocked at all that she would remain a single digit number streamer.

Focus on just making content instead of bitching and "preaching". Fuck, girl.

>> No.50066669

>>50066599
The current rrat was that the money was lacking this month, she checked, saw paypiggies left and went to twitter, we picked it up, talked about the situation and she is actively here so she saw it and apologized and deleted and apologized and deleted etc

>> No.50066724

>>50066655
anon sorry but Kiryu is NOT a vtuber

>> No.50066748

>>50066669
Yeah that was my guess as well. Hopefully she learns from this and both she and her fans can move on

>> No.50066826

>>50066748
I guess it just depends on whether you believe in second chances or not

>> No.50066845

>>50064000
She was big because she was the first but she got boring and stopped caring. The asmr vids were good but she hated doing asmr apparently.

I remember she made fun of africa in one vid and even sang the pomf pomf nyanners thing, but then started collabing with her lame male friends and stopped putting effort. I have no clue why she started streaming on twitch when she was big on youtube already.

>> No.50066897

>>50053469
The newest model is literally an updated redraw of the original concept, though.
Do newfags really just come on the board and make up shit to sound important?

>> No.50066916

>>50066897
Newest model looks like shit.

>> No.50066964

>>50065275
I was never a fan of the "le ironic right-wing" joke, but she seems like a cool gal (the character, at least.)
>>50066655 (checked)
Koopa aside, what's with chuubas going sperg on twitter with their "opinions"? it is not difficult at all to just shut up and avoid drama, but most of the time it feels like they're doing it on purpose.
>inb4 they do
why?

>> No.50066989

>>50059153
lmao not true

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>>50066724

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>>50058750
Meh, I always get Production Kawaii and Project Kavvaii mixed up.

>> No.50067267

>>50052543
Fubuki. She impressed me with her immaculate moral compass, but there is nothing we have in common. I either don't care or outright despise things she's into, like gacha, speedruns or marvel.

>> No.50067280

>>50058982
Give her another try then, you won't die from it

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>>50066964
>"le ironic right-wing" joke
It's the complete opposite to that tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjJpJaYoqgA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cOONiHfSiQ

>> No.50067389

>>50059445
I genuinely think she is sorry...but man, 4 hours of that stream, it's hard to accept that kind of apology, if I were her viewer that is. And I saw people say she was uncomfortable, come on, who would sit in uncomfort for 4 hours, considering she constantly reschedule and cancel her streams, she probably enjoyed it like a stupid bimbo she is.

>> No.50067436

>>50067147
don't worry, everyone does

>> No.50067477

>>50060795
I don't really get this "POST YOUR MEMBERSHIP", why do I have to pay someone to be their fan or long time viewer? I have fleshtubers that I watch almost for 10 years and I've never donated or subbed/membered to them.

>> No.50067909

>>50063143
Qrd

>> No.50068367

>>50066964
>>inb4 they do
>why?
They are fishing for the retweets and clout. This gives them more pull on the twitter algorithm and make their tweets reach more people.

>> No.50068400

>>50058532
>>50059172
They deleted channels and memoryholed 2 girls who leave company on good terms.
They made talents shittalk terminated ones. Neena's case was plausible, but then it became a massive shitshow.

>> No.50068528

>>50052543
Kronii. Even if we put male collabs aside, she had the potential to be one of the biggest EN chuubas and she blew it before males even existed on EN side.

>> No.50068572

I'm so disappointed by Kronii, there was so much possibility for her voice acting shorts, doing script readings, voice acting for games etc

Fauna has done more VA than her, BAE has done more VA than her. Kronii has brought nothing to vtubing but twitter scum attacking people

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>>50066845
>the pomf pomf nyanners thing
I looked for that recently and seemingly it got made private. Shame since she actually did it better than nyanners.
>>50066845
>I have no clue why she started streaming on twitch
Because Eilene had nothing to do with her Twitch.

>> No.50068743

>>50068586
Did she ever mention what exactly was the horrible thing Eilene did? Did he grope her tiddy?
The only interaction I remember is Eilene giving her a big dono on twitch and some mobile game video.

>> No.50068895

>>50066845
>her lame male friends
At least she wasn't after unicorns and said she had boyfriends in the past.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaD49ycwrGQ
As for the male friends, even Pending doesn't get many watching him now. Big drop in numbers the last time I saw he was live, and he was one of the better Moe friends.
>>50068743
According to a stream, Eilene was going to offer Moe a big project on the condition that she stopped uploading to MaliceDiary, her original account. That account wasn't allowed to be called a vtuber, yet Comdost was allowed to be referred to one. You can understand the bitterness already. The big project never happened. She gave up stuff for nothing.

I think she did try to get full access of the account but Eilene either wouldn't do it or didn't respond.

>> No.50068909

>>50053863
She never reminded me of a gyaru

>> No.50068929

Kronii. A model by one of the biggest artists in Japan. The opportunities that Hololive offers. She just never did anything with either. Even before male collabs, she was constantly lackluster.

>> No.50069006

>>50054124
It doesn’t sound like she was a different person because you didn’t say anything about her personality but she liked things you didn’t and that was the issue

>> No.50069022

>>50068528
>"Guys, I may stream for an hour or so because I get a headache if I play for too long"
>*Then proceeds to play minecraft 27 hours a day, and make sure to not stream a bit of it*

I don't know Cover's screening process but holy shit, either they are incompetent as fuck or have bad luck by hiring streamers that doesn't like streaming (gura, kronii, sana)

>> No.50069224

>>50052543
KOOPA LOVE!

>> No.50069270

My only disappointment with Koops is her health problems prevent her from streaming often.

>> No.50069310

>>50069270
This
Understandable but fuck I wish she streamed more

>> No.50069416

>>50069310
Good thing is streaming tonight and friday

>> No.50069551

>>50069416
Is she really or is she gonna delay it again?

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I wish she leaned more on being a creative gremlin rather than trying to force JP collabs all the time. It's boring when your entire content is bringing other people together.

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Every generation of Prism Project since their third one. They all looked at points to be the generation to propulse the corpo to consistent 3views. But eventually they fail some sooner than later.
Gen3 had shiki blow past 100k subs in a record time for a small corpo and she dropped that advantage due to her health and throat hurt. Nia almost got swayed to graduate and team up with some whoretuber indies. Yura started collabing with males.
Their 4th gen lost a member in 2 months and had Sara, the woman with the sexiest /choc/ model in the west, meltdown over parasocial freaks.
Their 5th gen hurts the most, cause I don't know what they did wrong. AmiAmi's stream yesterday could only break 100 ccv thanks to one of her senpai raiding her.
I literally don't know how they can be saved.

>> No.50070174

>>50068929
imagine if she was someone fun like Marine, buying her own doujins and having fun with her design, talking about Fate shit. but no, she has zero interest in ANYTHING

>> No.50070217

>>50062243
What is this retarded take?
Aqua is unironically the best gamer in hololive, maybe even in vtubing.
The fuck are you smoking retard?

>> No.50070248

>>50070037
>I don't know what they did wrong
Joined Prism Project.

>> No.50070300

>>50069270
What if she actually not sick and she just bullshits it for pity points and actually doing something else?

>> No.50070409

>>50052543
Beatani, I liked her contendi but she only listened to the same assholes.

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>>50052563
all those early collabs were a lot of fun, even with gen 2. Now it feels like nothing is happening 90% of the time

>> No.50070848

>>50067477
It's the only way some fags here can feel important
>I've been a paid member for 2 years I'm a true fan unlike you you gray threadreader hurrrrrr

>> No.50070894

>>50052563
I like Mumei. The rest I either don't like or am indifferent about.

>> No.50070899

>>50070409
>Beatani
I haven't seen her thread for a long time, what happened to it?

>> No.50071021

>>50070899
Quit vtubing

>> No.50071028

>>50070899
she graduated like a year ago anon

>> No.50071030

>>50062345
Then explain specifically what western VTuber fans get wrong about Japanese idol culture.

>> No.50071095

>>50071030
You style in character till you're away from everything (aka in Vtuber case not streaming.)

>> No.50071140

>>50071021
>>50071028
why? not enough donations?

>> No.50071234

>>50059431
I think Oceane was obviously at fault for her particular shit - even old indie friends and people like Neena who had their own beef with Kawaii didn't stand up for her.
The rest of it, fuck knows. Kinda cripples everyone though, for an explicitly cgdct type group that kind of drama is poison.

>> No.50071245

>>50071140
She never planned on doing it for long as far as I can tell. She was just curious about it and wanted to try it out

>> No.50071488

>>50071140
Had to quit and get a real job because her fanbase was all poors.

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She let the dogs get to her

>> No.50071518

>>50070300
She has said during streams that her health isn't that bad anymore, but she is really busy with IRL. She does seem to have a really bad immune system though.

>> No.50071621

>>50052563
Ehhh, kronii is kinda funny and Mumei is a memelord. Gura and Fianna is meh. The rest is trash desu desu.

>> No.50071643

>>50058532
When has kawaii ever called themselves dedicated to being unicorn friendly?
And what makes you think you know what they are like behind the scenes? Aside from all of the graduated gen3 and some of the other graduates, but they aren't really vindictive and catty behind the scenes, they are like that pretty openly

>> No.50071731

>>50059318
que?

>> No.50071777

>>50071488
That's what happened? the few streams I saw of her only talk about her work and japanese ads.

>> No.50071786

>>50062931
Always has been

>> No.50071815

>>50059318
I thought she enjoyed the bickering and drama among the Dads

>> No.50071919

>>50071621
>kronii is kinda funny and Mumei is a memelord
lol

>> No.50071925

>>50071815
she enjoyed it but because of that she lost several fans.

>> No.50072105

>>50071777
No, she got an extreme amount of donations for someone of her size and practically ignored a thousand dollar donation because she thought it was only a hundred. What really got her is boredom. She doesn't personally care for watching vtubers or streamers that much and isn't big on games either. She ran out of things she wanted to do and decided to bow out and focus on the rest of her life

>> No.50072208

>>50070037
stop numberfagging

>> No.50072251

>>50062383
I mean yea. Her entire shtick was "Oh man the idol is doing/saying crude things".
Hard to do that when you're in a company filled with crude people.

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>>50071643
>When has kawaii ever called themselves dedicated to being unicorn friendly?
They say the no-males policy pretty often, that's all you need to be unicorn friendly

>> No.50072305

>>50071140
she started DMing Lumi and Lumi brainwashed her into hating her fans and vtubing

>> No.50072323

>>50072105
sounds depressing, what happened to her fans when she told them she no longer wanted to stream because she was bored?

>> No.50072406

>>50072305
And what did lumi get out of doing that?

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The trend of graduations followed by big debuts.
I can understand it in regards to smaller indies, but when its a huge chuuba, I don't like it.
The big graduations are huge spectacles, streams leading up to it, the event itself, hell Coco's graduation was massive, and for what?
Same with Pika, just to show up a few months down the road.

What was the point then? Give me my tears back.

>> No.50072423

>people still seething about Kronii while Wada continues to dote the fuck out of her
lmao

>> No.50072453

>>50052543
Pippa. She began as an unique chuuba who always had interesting and fun streams based on her personality but utterly degenerated into react content and has begun to collab with male fleshtubers. She became a skinwalker in a completely roundabout way (not by being a e-thot) but her new content and direction has nothing to do with vtubing or anything weeb related.

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>>50052543
Gura. I used to be a big fan, but she just seems completely lazy these days. Given that streaming is just sitting down and talking for an hour, I find it baffling that whatever condition she has prevents her from doing even that once a week. She just seems to be taking everyone for a ride.

I don't know what amazing project she's allegedly working on behind the scenes, but it would have to be "first vtuber on the moon" tier to justify this, and even then, most people would prefer actual streams.

I find all her "but she doesn't have to stream" supporters baffling too. Yes she does, it's literally her job and she's being paid millions.

Pic: evidence of lapsed Gura membership

>> No.50072466

>>50072406
she's a woman, she enjoys hurting others

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>> No.50072579

>>50072323
It made me pretty sad to be honest but the writing had been on the wall for a long time. After that everyone went their separate ways but some still hang out

>> No.50072594

>>50072535
fuck zia

>> No.50072643

>>50055599
Even if he was a real woman he'd still be boring and repetitive and derivative and annoying.

>> No.50072647

>>50072460
You're under the impression that Cover in the streamer management business
Cover is, in fact, in the ad, merch and sponsorship revenue business
As long as Gura makes the company money, she's doing her job and keeping her job. As multiple JPs can attest

>> No.50072680

>>50072419
I don't disagree with your sentiment but the idea in their minds is that the character is graduating, which is a separate thing from the voice behind it. It does have a nasty artificial aftertaste but it is what it is

>> No.50072733

>>50072460
holo girls arent streamers, they're idols and mascots. They don't have to do anything, it's okay as long as they exist. They're like touhou or vocaloid characters

>> No.50072802

>>50058754
Emphasis on had

>> No.50072913

>>50052543
Probably Koopa for me too. That was pretty early into english vtubing popping off too, so maybe I'm just looking back with rose tinted glasses, but those early days had so much promise.

>> No.50072972

>>50072579
sad for you, what are they doing now?

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>>50052543
This vtuber

>> No.50073034

>>50058929


NTA, but 'typo' is a contraction of 'typographical error'; IE, like ypu are typing a word with O in it, but accidentally hit the P key instead. Things that can go wrong while typing even though the intended result is correct. Wrong spellings or whole ass different words or other grammatical impoverishments are another matter.

>> No.50073134 [DELETED] 

all the 2vu that have rejected me when to fly to japan and meet up with them irl

>> No.50073188

all the 2vu that have rejected me when i ask to fly to japan and meet up with them irl

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>>50052543
you don't have to be so mean bro

>> No.50073658

>>50052543
miko going full "i'm baby" flanderization

>> No.50074064

>>50072453
>Pippa
she was never special

>> No.50074081

>no one saying Fauna
I knew that shit was just a larp and no one actually cared.
Anyway, Gura. With a bit more effort she could legit be Pewdiepie big (well maybe not but you get the idea). But instead she just squandered the opportunity of a lifetime and has ended up a glorified mascot.

>> No.50074214

>>50074081
Technically Fauna didn't really do anything wrong, she was just retarded. Not like she fucked a fan or had a male collab. Everyone knows that she and her viewers aren't friends in a real sense. But she could say I can't be friends with you on individual level, but you saplings my community as a whole is my friend. That's literally all she had to say.

>> No.50074319

>>50072535
Adult woman pretending to be 13 pretending to be 16, top tier menhera content

>> No.50074340

>>50058532
>PROJECT Kawaii
>DEDICATED TO BEING UNICORN FRIENDLY
All headcannon by SEA shitter dramafaggots.
Kawaii was never unicorn friendly. And only 2 girls do GFE. Do you have any other hallucinations that you wanna talk about?

>> No.50074423

>>50072453
Krampus you are the second most retarded Pippa anti and that's only after Chase

>> No.50074448

>>50058833
>>50058929
ESL imbecile doesn't know what typo means. Pottery.

>> No.50074827

>>50060729
Still streams to a 3 view audience who are somewhat dedicated paypigs but it's rarely above an hour and half and is usually something pretty boring. Rarely reads comments from chat, rarely says or does anything memorable or funny, just kinda there 2-3 times a week.
Would probably be a massive hit in HoloEn unironically

>> No.50074890

>>50071234
What can they do if gen 3 practiced their predatory western vtuber griefing on them? Just ignore it and congratulate them for stepping all over them? Gen 1/2 girls are supposed to just quietly take it despite being hurt and having their own vtuber career set back by it?
Kson encouraged this kind of practice because small corpo doesn't deserve to exist and only should serve as a stepping stone. Hey it's just business after all and it's free to exploit things to maximize benefit to you.

>> No.50074969

>>50072733
that really only applies to gura, ayame and aqua. everyone else either does shit to different degrees or is falling into irrelevance.

>> No.50075149

>>50074423
Pippa had the potential to become one of the most influential and significant people in vtubing, and especially in western vtubing. She threw that away and took the easy and uninspired route into becoming a generic streamer. My own person doesn't factor in on anything beyond that. Her numbers won't decline, but she threw away her chance at becoming a legend. Back in the old days I compared her with Gura (pre-hiatuses), which everyone took as a joke including her. But I truly and honestly saw that amount of potential and creativity in her, that sort of quality, that sort of significance. For a considerable time she was fulfilling that potential and even exceeding my expectations in her growth as a chuuba and as a person. I incorrectly assumed that with obvious success and obvious payoff her childish notions about dogshit people (fleshstreamers of various sorts) would naturally atrophy and die, and that she will embrace the challenge - the challenge of becoming the first truly and completely western vtuber legend of the highest order, in the same league as Pekora or Korone, though obviously in different style. This did not happen because of stuff I talked about previously, and it constitutes a fatal error on her part, and a cowards way out. She failed, fundamentally.

But fuck you for calling me an anti. I am not. I'm simply posting on topic opinions. I have no desire or inclination to harm her or shitpost randomly about her. I am simply sad with what has happened and find the whole situation depressing. A part of me will always like her and I think of this whole thing as a tremendous loss and a waste of a talented person. Antis hate, I do not hate her.

>> No.50075375

>>50075149
Henri stop larping as a medicated person

>> No.50075431

>>50052563
You'll never be Japanese. Gatekeeping faggot

>> No.50075489

>>50071621
>Kronii and Mumei
lol, what a faggot. Kronii is not funny and Mumei is fucking boring.

>> No.50075598

>>50075149
Nta but she probably will start to see a decline within the next year or so. I could be wrong and I'll fully admit if I am but from what I've heard she's stopped pandering as heavily to the kiwifags and /pol/tards, she now basically just commits fully to the
>LOUD = FUNNY!!!!!
type of humor zoomers like, but truthfully speaking each time she does something that isn't reaction she loses 1k viewers minimum. React content is pretty much what keeps her channel alive

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>>50075149
What are you even talking about? Pekora and Korone also collab and interact with jp fleshstreamers/celebrities all the time you dumb fuck. Next time pick better examples or watch more streams instead of trying to take a whiff of my wifes buttcrack Henri.

>> No.50075963

>>50075149
Henri kill yourself

>> No.50075993

>>50075902
>Henri
who the fuck is he? i remember him talking about bea and kiki not being traitors, doesn't he know that they both have secret DMs with fans?

>> No.50076106

>>50075598
I've been membered to her for exactly a year and seven months before I pulled the plug yesterday due to male fleshtuber collabs. Those were the cherry on top of about two months of react content. She pivoted hard from vtubing into a bland copy of generic streamers whom she holds in inexplicable high regard. Me and the rest of her original audience have been effectively purged and drowned out by legions of people who came to watch her due to that react content and who are watchers of e-celebs, not vtubers. Kiwi and /pol/ have nothing to do with anything in this case, it's just that she abandoned all the promise she held and reduced herself to lazy non-content that's unrelated to the culture of vtubing, weebery or even her own proclivities. Simply put she became a generic streamer wearing an anime skin but had the ability, talent and personality to become a legendary vtuber. And that is incredibly sad and depressing.

Her numbers won't decline. But she's effectively a bland face in a sea of other bland faces now. She rejected the call to greatness.

>> No.50076266

Watame

>> No.50076294

>>50052563
Looking now from a outsider perspective rather than a fan, yeah.
A great disappointment and a massive mismanagement in something that could have been great and be even a main force for Hololive in general.

>> No.50076561

>>50052563
Tempus and the subsequent lack of attention to the EN girls combined to just make them get boring over time and greatly-increase the odds of them saying/doing things that turn fans off.

So really Tempus was a mistake, imagine if it never existed and we had the actual EN3, or even an EN4 by now. We could have had double the number of girls, and because the freshest newest ones tend to stream the most (unless they pull a sana) there would be enough of a ball rolling between the new girls and the old ones chilling out to get a lot of events/collabs together that current myth/councilrys literally doesn't have the (wo)manpower to get together easily.

>> No.50076605

>>50075902
>Henri
I'm not him you imbecile, and that tells me all I need to know about how new you are. You probably came about after her outfit reveal.

And we both know neither Pekora nor Korone collab with JP fleshstreamers whose entire "content" is complaining about Japanese politics and whatever the fuck. The situation is incomparable. And I have no idea, desire or interest to know who the faggot in your picture is supposed to be. I don't watch fleshstreamers and never will. That garbage is inferior and unrelated to vtubing. Her whole everything is now held hostage and intrinsically linked to the US fleshtuber culture of pure undiluted shit that has zero quality or is of any interest to anyone with even a hint of standards. Pippa could've been the first true American vtuber of the highest grade, she chose to drown herself in these irrelevant, derivative nobodies who have nothing to say or do beyond "based" takes about your equally irrelevant culture war bullshit and similar. In other words, normalfaggot pseudo-content that is in endless suppy.

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From based indie to corpo stooge. So sad.

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>>50077359
poor /b/tard

>> No.50077528

>>50076106
Tenma also does male collabs since forever and has no problem. It's not that Pippa does male collabs, is that she's drifting towards trying to be Asmongold-lite and it makes her also surround herself with fleshtubers.

>> No.50079284

>>50072453
>>50075149
>an unique chuuba
>My own person doesn't factor in on anything beyond that.
Holy fucking ESL

>> No.50079441

>>50067385
pippa ditched ghost for colres damn

>> No.50079469

>>50059018
>Gets harassed into crying on stream
>Management doesn't do shit about it.
There is a lot to be disappointed about in her reincarnation, but her leaving the company was the right move.

>> No.50079766

>>50072985
I hope someday she lets her fans know wtf happened

>> No.50079865

>Who are your biggest vtubing disappointments
Everything about Mumei. PL, content, growth, moral fiber, you name it.

>> No.50080107

>>50079865
not cussing you yet but, are you perhaps a beggar?

>> No.50080344

Gura could have been the biggest vtuber in history and consolidate the market for the EN audience, but she showed that vtubers in the west was just a joke.

>> No.50080716

>>50079865
Homosexual hands typed this post

>> No.50081488

>>50074214
It's a pretty complex idea to articulate and she had about 30 seconds to compose her answer while she was in another train of thought.
Chill, and if saplings can think through it, all is fine.

>> No.50081509

>>50077528
Exactly, she really doesn't have much of a personality of her own anymore It's literally just whatever twitch streamer she's in love with at the moment.

>> No.50082381

>>50076561
HoloEN had become boring as fuck well before Tempus was even a thing.

>> No.50082483

>>50071095
You got it sis, they are free to do everything they want! I love Oshi no ko too!

>> No.50083083

>>50059445
Jesus Christ. I usually think people are are overeacting about collabs with males but this is a legit NTR stream.

>> No.50083226

>>50059755
Coco was always great at interaction.
Interacting with her genmates, interacting with her seniors, interacting with the EN fanbase.
On her own she was alright but it was always collabs where she shone.
She also had lots of behind the scenes positive interactions with the other girls.
You can bitch about reddit, but for interaction with the fanbase it was either that or Twitter.
The memes were almost universally shit, but it was a way to show off the JP girls to a worldwide audience.

>> No.50083366

>>50052543
EIEN is pretty sad, they seemed like decent girls
You know what else is kind of sad? Hololive having shit models compared to indies

>> No.50084096

>>50075149
Korone and Pekora didn't have hot takes on the Japanese government, didn't touch topics like the Sarin attack and imply it was an inside job.
Pippa should never have actually touched politics. A few jokes is fine, but she went too deep, too far, started to talk the talk but not walk the walk.
I cannot comprehend what was going on that retard's head.
Why would you make joke about harry potter mixed wizard people with the wording 4chan uses against mixed race people, and then be shocked people used the same joke against an asian-white friend of hers?
Why would she make edgy jokes and then be mad someone drew her as the buffalo Walmart shooter.
It seems impossible to me anyone can be so dumb as to not realize what she was getting involved.

>> No.50084442

>>50084096
Libertarians are retards.They try to play 4D chess and lose at 2D Tic Tac Toe. The rabbit in particular is the very retarded type who think all evil comes from a single source, and that edgelords are just joking.
Same thing happened with PewDiePie.

>> No.50084550

>>50084442
Blaming all evil on a single source is just people's way to cope with the fact that humans aren't rational and are prone to doing dumb shit. Everything has to be a conspiracy from one source because they refuse to accept the chaotic nature of life and the universe

>> No.50086816

bump

>> No.50087007

>>50075431
Every person that is against gatekeing is a bad person you need gates to keep out.

>> No.50087243

>>50054090
>>50053576
qrd?

>> No.50088097

>>50052543
NijiEN, in particular every wave after Obsydia.

>> No.50090456

>>50062410
>but she's such a shitty person it's crazy.
They also look up to her for that reason

>> No.50090702

>>50055460
what part of kiki is GFE? be specific

>> No.50090951

>>50063985
I do wonder how eilene shit the bed so hard. One of yomemi and moemi is dead, the other streams to like 50 people once a week. Etra was stagnant but had the smart idea to join another company and has been streaming more. looking forward to her NN+ content

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>>50074340
Ogey Nene

>> No.50091115

>>50090702
what not

>> No.50091200

>>50080344
She still makes bank and seems content with being less popular

>> No.50091313

>>50053206
Totally her. She has a great voice and i still enjoys her covers, but i can't stand her on twitter and streams. Woke culture is a cancer, a japanese woke vtuber is a full on metastasis

>> No.50091335

>>50079766
Sold into sex trafficking by lostpause

>> No.50092011

>>50091115
Which of her streams are "GFE"? She didn't have a Valentine's stream this year, just a regular casual zatsu stream. If you think she's not doing educational streams because she mentions her "husband" once a month or gives the chat a kiss at the end of most streams, then you don't really watch her much. Personally, I wish she embraced those aspects more, but anonymous commenters made her self-conscious. I don't know if it was your intention, but you make it sound like she's not doing content you personally want because she's doing all this GFE content instead, she's just a cute rabbit that plays lots of retro games and is a little more sweet to her audience than the average vtuber. I could point to a dozen streamers in this thread who would be more "GFE" than Kiki.

>> No.50093428

>>50076605
Keep in mind, to Pippafags, anyone who insults her is magically Henri. It's like /wvt/ but somehow more paranoid

>> No.50093531

>>50052543
Council as a whole

>> No.50094085

>>50053762
I have no idea why they haven't added post IDs to this board yet

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Finana. She was my first favorite nijien girl when the branch first debuted. I loved her design and voice and just found her entertaining. Her retardation used to be a cute trait but it's ended up ruining her. Really feels like she doesn't respect her fans

>> No.50094375

>>50052543
Tsunderia's amazing talent pool getting squandered by the most ineffectual CEO in all the smallcorpos

>> No.50094442

>>50052563
Everytime I've tried watching one of them they all sound like they don't know how to interact with people, and not in a fun way to watch. It's not fake or anything, it's just fucking boring.

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Not a "who" but rather a "what": The progression of UmiSea.

>Assembled a group of aquatic Holomem from JP and EN who have been wanting to collab for a long time
>Split them into Umisea JP and EN and then promptly the EN part into bit players

>> No.50096293

>>50052563
fpbp
/jp/ was right when they said don't support Hololive when Myth got announced, popularizing vtubing in the west unironically killed the soulful fun of vtubing

>> No.50098379

>>50062914
not him but i think people should know about it, she's trying to hide it under the rug

>> No.50100041

>>50062199
BEEBS!

>> No.50100992

>>50053762
anon it's a containment board. It's doing its job.

>> No.50101275

>>50071777
Cool trips.

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>>50093428
He isn't Henry, not esl and grandiose enough

>> No.50103609

>>50077528
Tenma mostly collabs with nagz who gets bullied by his chat and bullies them(similar to pippa) so her fans are probably already cool with him, but I'm not sure how they feel about koe

>> No.50103833

>>50093428
This one isn't Henri but Henri has a very distinct writing style and also is compulsively racist against the Chinese so it's really easy to tell.
They thought this one was Henri because he's also schizophrenic.

>> No.50103873

I didn't think this thread would still be going but man vtubing kinda sucks and I don't know why I still look at all this shit when I don't really care, I should just like remove myself from this shit and do something else.

>> No.50103893

>>50091335
Rrat is either sponsor man or Joey

>> No.50103931

>>50103873
I think I'm addicted to looking at all the madness and different girls, getting old though, I'm tired.

>> No.50103983

>>50079469
What are you supposed to retard? Tell the trannies to kill themselves lmao?

Captcha: vt4 JP

>> No.50104168

>>50053762
4chan was never good

>> No.50104964

Vtubing kinda lost it chatm when it became streaming before that just simple haha funny anime girl who breaking the 4th wall kinda neat but since streaming just like eh more streamers but they're playing dress up, it would basically be the same if they on camera or on just mic.

>> No.50105177

>>50104964
>Sees streams of girls roommates
>It's literally the same shit.

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