/fig/ - Fighting Idols Global

[Anonymous No.]

Ransom list to developers by spics- Edition

>What is /fig/?
/fig/ is a thread for viewers to find, share, and discuss idol vtubers who play fighting games, either from large companies, small ones, or indies, as well as to discuss fighting games about Hololive and other vtubers in general.

>So is this thread about fighting games or Idol showdown?
Neither: this is a thread about idols and fighting games.

>But what is an idol?
An idol is something unobtainable and moe that makes your kokoro go doki doki (WIP)

>Idol Showdown wiki
https://wiki.gbl.gg/w/Idol_Showdown

>IS patch notes & Beta builds
https://steamdb.info/app/1742020/patchnotes/
https://twitter.com/IdolShowdown/status/1660016297164390405

>Glossary of Fighting Terms
https://glossary.infil.net/

>Hololive Smash Clone fangame
https://twitter.com/AoiSora_3D

>Fighting Idols
Coyote
https://www.youtube.com/@Coyote_KemoV
Coyo from Kemono Friends, likes Tekken.
Shimada Tiger
www.twitch.tv/shimadatiger (embed) (tiger) (tiger) (tiger uppercut) (tiger)
Genki Tiger who likes SFV, SFVI and Guilty Gear
Nade chama
twitch.tv/nadechama (embed)
Comfy witch with an obsession over GBVS and other anime fighters
Rie Himemiya
youtube.com/@HimemiyaRie
Cute princess who recently picked up Strive, has played Idol Showdown on stream

>But....What the hell is an idol?
[Definition Pending]

>are non idols ok?
As long as they are playing idol Showdown yes I guess? We need to figure that one out

>"FT10 NOOB!" "My oshi can beat your oshi!"
Take that somewhere else, this thread is full of newbies who just want to play the funny idol game. Be nice.

>How do I git gud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm9IECEnKHQ [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R0hbe8HZj0 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2wX4EiD5tg [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtoDCmvN_5M [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]

>Twitter Hashtags for Character Tech
https://pastebin.com/XQtD5D1y

>Discord alternative for hosting tournament only (DO NOT USE UNLESS YOU PLAN TO HOST):
https://y99.in/r/1061387

>News for May 19 2023

-Collab patch implemented https://twitter.com/IdolShowdown/status/1659433734175637505
-Street Fighter VI beta is officially live!
- Mori is preparing an Idol Showdown tournament ANY MOMENT SOON
- First /vt/ tournament in two weeks! Assuming we can find a host!
- /fi/ggers explore discord alternatives not to end like /fgg/:
Discord was a mistake, says /fgg/ survivor.
- Coyodachis seen refunding SFVI after Coyo did not touch the beta, some say they will stay play it if only for Chun li MILF hips
-Shimadatachis sleeping now due to ASMR free feel to steal their wallets
- Nadetachis have no general so they live here now
- Will the new Phase connect gen have a dedicated fighter games player? Polls predict no with 100% results
- Opinion: Forecasters predict a day will come when there will be intense OP wars. Experts recommend making six other threads too when it happens in order to kill all the bait threads as well
-No one reads the OP so bakers can literally write anything here
-HEY GUYS
-Today confidence status: Lots of confidence!

>Tiermaker of characters
https://tiermaker.com/create/idol-showdown-characters-86484

>tigers
>https://www.twitch.tv/zoolifetiger (install) (install) (install) (install) (yubi) (yubi) (install) (install) (install)

And remember: No discords, no names, no fighting. Only idols and love.

Other useful threads
>>>/vt/hfz/
>>>/vt/ybc/
>>>/vt/fps
>>>/vt/tsunx/
>>>/vt/kemoV/
>>>/doog/
>>>/pcg/
>>>/vt/tekken/ Tuesdays/ (only on Tuesdays)

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>>49911845
Are you talking about coco or Suisei?
Aki isn't really "easy" to play but she's just really strong in every way once players are good enough to use her and make her effective.

[Anonymous No.]

Was Botan grab into Ame 214S removed from the game?
I'm not sure when to time it but it currently feels like my opponent is invuln after grab

[Anonymous No.]

>>49913105
Botan sex

[Anonymous No.]

>>49912840
I think I made it obvious who I was talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49911998

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>>49914250
I'm a milia/ky player in gg and suisei player in idol
She would hate me too.
>>49914186
I'm guessing it's coco then even when your comment can somewhat apply to both.
The deal with coco is that while her mix up is very good and oppressive with very high reward, there is a risk involved for her, especially when the opponent jump put of her command grab and turn the table on her. Many of the top tier characters such as suisei, Aki, fubuki, etc... can have 50/50 mix up with almost no risk. Coco doesn't have strong neutral neither. Coco has some defensive option that punish opponents being reckless but most good players don't play recklessly against her. Coco is really oppressive in low level but at higher level, she has difficult against the bad match up

[Anonymous No.]

>>49911845
Aki snowballs and mixes in a billion different ways. In neutral, off a knockdown, in so many different ways. It doesn't help that she's a zoner so she automatically controls neutral, and Muki can break your combos. People don't complain about Coco because the majority of Coco players suck balls, and I mean that relative to even new players of other characters. Even besides that she's a lot harder to play than she seems. Her combo meter gain sucks without meter, her higher damage tends to require setup or are sort of gimmicky. Her neutral is weird because she's insanely good around max poke range and close to you, but is weaker in-between that area due to other characters having faster pokes. And long range, it's obvious she's not good there. Some of her combos require two frame or one frame links, this also applies to her blockstrings which have a slightly different timing if you don't want someone to mash out before you grab them.

Most complaints about Coco anyone would have are general grappler complaints except maybe her pokes which are on the upper end of the cast's. She's still a competitive character partially because she does have the grappler effect as well as an insanely good sweep, but most of her stuff isn't really bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

Every match online is a slideshow now. It never used to be like this for me. I think it's because of the update. Until they fix it I'll just have to completely give up on this game, it's legitimately unplayable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49911998
>Discord alternative for hosting tournament only
>Room invite has expired
OPchama?

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>49917761
Tell me something fun lately

[Anonymous No.]

>>49919173
I don't know

[Anonymous No.]

Watame collab will make the opponent lag in your favor.

[Anonymous No.]

Bumping like a monster truck

[Anonymous No.]

>>49919282
Have what you been playing as? What has been fun? Have you watched any interesting streams about IS lately?

[Anonymous No.]

AYAME MY BOTTOM TIER WIFE

[Anonymous No.]

my game is running incredibly slow
is there anything I can do to fix it ?
CPU usage is going through the roof

[Anonymous No.]

>>49911998
>-Today confidence status: Lots of confidence!
Woah! What happened?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>49923869
It is related to how much I had been shat upon on the previous thread for making the op

Also good morning /fig/!

this one already not going so well
>>49915748 I just pasted the link but there is no room now because there is no tournament but perhaps it would be better if I put just the chat rooms
Just be careful with the people hitting on you because those are sex bots

[Anonymous No.]

>>49922057
The hell you mean bottom tier Ayame?

[Anonymous No.]

Predictions for future collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>49928840
vesper

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>>49924843
Hey, I'm the anon who tested the chat room. I'm currently writing the guide on how to use Y99 chat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49928840
Me and your oshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>49930790
you and me

[Anonymous No.]

>>49931499
But thats forbidden love!

[Anonymous No.]

>>49931499

[Anonymous No.]

>>49924843
>>49911998
You didnt fix the mistakes from last time

[Anonymous No.]

bumpus

[Anonymous No.]

>>49924843
Test anon here, just find out that you can actually do watchalong AND listenalong in the pajeet video call. Yes, streams work too.

[Anonymous No.]

Are the updates up? I only checked training mode and the collab changes don't seem to be there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49935095
cool

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>>49936739
The only change I seen is that it's slow as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>49940261
what is? the thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>Improved input buffering system: now restricts infinitely holding diagonal inputs, allowing smooth execution of motion inputs by only accepting continuous inputs of back, down, or forward inputs.
nani

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>>49941119
I think it's trying to say your 214 shouldnt register as 211 anymore, but in a very retarded way

[Anonymous No.]

if these faggots don't want their crashes publicized they can fuck off and go race in private, why do they think they're getting millions of dollars for this pointless shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>49941400
are you talking about nascar

[Anonymous No.]

>>49941440
He's talking about the HoloEn amongus discord yab, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>49940625
The game but this thread too

[Anonymous No.]

GIVE ME BACK SF6 AHHHHH

[Anonymous No.]

>>49944696
Come back to idols

[Anonymous No.]

>>49944843
Ok you convinced me

[Anonymous No.]

>>49911998
Doog and pcg links are broken

[Anonymous No.]

>>49947115
OP fucked up because he didnt add /vt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>49922057
At least they are making her air flip to be safe on block (which they said that it was a a blockstun glitch causing it to be unsafe). I thought it was ridiculous that the move isn't even an overhead and it can be easily punished on standing block

[Anonymous No.]

>>49947795
I think it was specifically the heavy version that was supposed to be safe. The rest are still unsafe.

[Anonymous No.]

>loved idol showdown
>played SF6 all weekend
>go back to idol showdown
>hate how it feels
it's an abstract feeling right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>49926830
She's too honest compared to everyone in the cast. Fubuki has a meterless instant overhead, Suisei has j.s and her insane oki, Koro has that block string at the corner, Aki is aki, Botan is botan, Sora lightsabers and A-chan, etc. Compared to the rest of the cast, Ayame has 0 bullshit and is strictly carried by your fundies. She also carries big risks and is reliant on meter for her special cancels which means that she has less resources to use for an assist. Her meter build is also quite trash because all of her specials are unsafe and easily punishable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49951649
>She's too honest
Bad bait is bad.

[Anonymous No.]

Every one who plays anything but Ayame is a whore

[Anonymous No.]

I really miss the beta man...

[Anonymous No.]

>>49950210
This but with Skullgirls

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>>49951649
>>49952135
She is truly the most "honest" of the whole roster. Maybe korone is the same but korone is probably worse than ayame.
Ayame's biggest threat is probably her ex dp due to how much damage you can covert off a dp hit and force the dishonest ccharacters to respect her and play more safe. However, some characters can OS out of the dp anyway. I don't think she's bottom tier though, just mid. She still have a strong neutral and ex dp to fall back on. I think ayame's meta will evolve to using assist to get some sort of mix up or somehow use the ex ghost thing for some degree of mix up.

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>>49951649
Fuck off, she's not honest. Her stagger pressure is the best in the game, sure it's unsafe her rekka but you don't know if the rekka will continue, if she chooses to do it as a frame trap or if she will just cancel the rekka into another fucking rekka. She can confirm from far as fuck with her 236M that comboes with meter into a fuckload of damage (almost 500dmg) and can build meter with relative ease. She has the fastest buttons and walk/running speed. She will chip you out easily due to her stagger pressure being as it is.
The only problem Ayame has is that she lacks a proper anti air, 22H should not be blockable in the air, neither 2H, neither 22L but they can be blocked. The same that Ayame is currently bugged with some of her superchat cancels, consuming meter for no canceling to appear.

I would dare say that her worst match up is, funny enough, Coco. Coco struggles with any character because she can't get in, but Ayame has to get in so god damn close that Coco gets command grabs for free in the middle of Ayame's rekkas.

t. Ayame main.

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>>49957348
22M is air unblockable. I don't think her anti-air are bad at all. It's very risky trying to get into the air near her.
Frame trap is solid, especially with rekka, but it's the most basic kind of pressure anyone can do, especially with the gatling/delay gatling system. Ayame also lacks a command grab to make her Frame trap really threatening (but at least her normal grab gives her decent position for Frame advantage). Of course, if someone guess right and mash out of the gap, then the table is turned on her. Frame trap is strong, but it is behind what many characters can do in their mix up/pressure option.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49955285
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45Ynt0mNSwo

[Anonymous No.]

>>49958044
To be fair, I get what he means by her antiairs being bad. They have good reach and beat attacks, but most of her AA options don't beat chickenblock. Her only air unblockable is 22M and you need superchat meter to confirm from it. She can't just 2H and pick up a big damage combo from her AA like most of the rest of the cast. To be fair, bad is probably not a good word for her AA but it does have more obvious limitations compared to other characters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49958672
I think chicken block is really weak in the game. The game lacks double jump/air dash, so you gain little even if you successfully jump out sometimes. There has to be some frame to jump as well because I consistently get hit by coco low on frame trap when I try to chicken block her pressure. Even if her normal get block midair, it basically force the opponent into a very negative situation and reset the pressure again. If they jump and try to land an air normal on her, she usually has time to 22M on reaction for a guaranteed punish. I think Ayame's pressure naturally can lock out many jump out attempt.

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>>49959751
For jumping out, it's not really a big weakness. Anyone can deal with it. Maybe chicken blocking was the wrong word. But jump-in block for example is something Ayame would struggle with more compared to other characters since her only real AA options are the 22 buttons, her other moves are very horizontal. 22M is pretty consistent but only resets the situation to neutral without superchat meter. And 22L and 22H lead to big damage, but are horribly punishable on block. So perhaps the best thing to say would be that she has the worst AA risk to reward ratio.

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>>49960566
I see. 22M is still a good option and even if you don't have a meter to convert into big damage (the game is generous with meter anyway), it still lead to an advantageous situation for ayame. I don't think many players would blindly jump into an ayame just to hold block and hope the ayame use 22L instead of 22L. Even if 2H hit slightly horizontal, it will still beat many jump in option as well due to its big disjoint hitbox.

[Anonymous No.]

Ok I have an hour to get good before the match with Shimada https://twitter.com/ShimadaTiger/status/1660797891076845568?s=20 touched the game for the first time an hour ago tell me how to get good with aki and a combo that starts with 5L

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>>49961555
https://youtu.be/1ZEo9Qbxbls?t=41

[Anonymous No.]

>>49961555
>Aki

[Anonymous No.]

>>49961310
The problem with 2H I'd say is both the lack of air unblockable property and how late the more vertical hitbox comes into play. If someone wants to hit you with a jumping move, they're more likely to beat out 2H than 2H is likely to beat them out since you have to do it early to catch them. Certain jump angles are hard for 2H to deal with as well, like neutral jump near Ayame which is where the 22 series comes in. That doesn't mean jumping into her like you're playing an airdasher is a good idea, but it's just something to keep in mind when playing against her.

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>>49962543
True, but 2H is opponent in the air that are kinda far infront of her. 2H will also catch many jump when opponent are pretty far out and think they can jump out. 2H is a pretty good as a part of the blockstring as the result. I think both 22M and 2H cover the air space around her well enough that not many opponents will readily go into air against her.

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>>49963665
For example, I think 2 H is pretty good for covering "dive kick" like air move air chain saw, air Tatsu, suisei's air axe, and ayame's flip kick due to its diagonal hitbox and double active hitbox nature.

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>>49953190

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.twitch.tv/shimadatiger
Shimada with Idol showdown starting now

[Anonymous No.]

>>49969161
We need some tigerbros in here to bump this thread

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/IdolShowdown/status/1660839926676566020
Game update is now live, details here

[Anonymous No.]

>>49973822
It's just hotfixes thou

[Anonymous No.]

>>49976667
Hotfixes + the previously removed collab update yeah

[Anonymous No.]

>>49978567
and yet, no aki nerfs

[Anonymous No.]

Bumping like my dick when I get good boyed

[Anonymous No.]

Aki is mega AIDs. I can't believe this is the only character in the entire game thats devoting more of my time & effort in the lab against her bs

[Anonymous No.]

Finally fought against a Sora doing Kazunoko style pressure. That shit's fucking horrifying, jesus christ. I still got some wins but it's not an easy matchup. Main issue is that Sora has the best pokes in the game so she just gets to 5M for free at round start against everyone.

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>>49985187
Yea it's really tough. You basically HAVE to do something on orange note l, like forcing a trade or block blue note and then do something. She will chain you all the way to corner then activate robocco if you don't mash out somehow because she build collab meter like crazy.

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What is the Idol Showdown tier list at the moment?
>Individual match-ups matter more.
Sure, but I am still wondering.

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>>49985615
No one can quite agree yet. It's probably like Aki at the very top, Botan a tier below, then everyone mixes and matches between who's on the second and third tier. The only universal thing aside from that is Coco and Korone being definitively in the third tier, but no one agrees on who else is down there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49985615
Aki
Then everybody else

[Anonymous No.]

>>49973822
>Voicelines - New Aki voicelines
>Voicelines - New Fubuki Voicelines
>Soundtrack - New Song for Gangtown stage
>Soundtrack - New Song for Main Stage stage

[Anonymous No.]

>>49985187
Sora will pop off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49989880
Yea, I think Sora might actually be the 2nd strongest character or even as good or almost as good as Aki. It's very tough to deal with her unless the dev nerf projectile and air unblockable attacks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49990187
Even if projectiles and air unblockables were nerfed she’d be hard to deal with. A-chan pressure in ridiculous, her corner blockstrings have very few holes, she forces everyone to block at round start, she has easy instant overhead setups and some of the best buttons in the game. Her only real weakness is she has the absolute worst defense in the game, but Burst in this game favors her extremely well. Because of how well she builds momentum, you’re likely to be the one to burst first. Then when you finally get momentum, she can burst back and regain it. Sometimes it feels like the only way to win against her is to get a knockdown before she slowly but surely forces you into the corner, then don’t let up on the brakes. If you can force her to burst first, you’re at a huge advantage, but if you can’t then you’ve likely lost the round.

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>>49990518
Her 22m has like 1f startup l. She has the best defense in the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49990518
The projectiles in the game need to disappear when the user get hit. It's one of my main gripe with the game. Air unblockable is another. I don't think air unblockable should exist. Sora is really tough because her recovery on the projectile special are ridiculous. Even if you jump as she throw the "slow" orange projectile, she can recover and 2H. Imagine if I- Meanwhile, the fast blue projectile will hit you mid jump. She can auto dial both blue/orange off block string and automatically beat jump option, which shouldn't be possible for jump in to lose that badly to projectile. If she get orange out, you have to block because even if you jump anywhere and get a guaranteed 2H on you and cancel into another projectile. She basically can end the match if she even force you to block a 5M or 5H unless you take huge risk to get out of the note pressure loop that push you all the way to the corner into a a-chan+note pressure loop

[Anonymous No.]

>>49990518
She has an invincible reversal so she's still solid defensively

[Anonymous No.]

>>49990749
It’s not applicable when it comes to blockstrings though. Trying to 22M through a gap in pressure is ridiculously hard and leaves you subject to getting punished. On wake-up it’s more usable, but how usable it is depends on who you’re facing. Most don’t really need to worry about it.

>>49991024
Her super is weaker as a reversal compared to other reversal options. It’s not unusable, but it’s slower at frame 13 so it’s easier to bait out compared to other super reversals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49985615
Chou Kawaii
>Aki
Kawaii
>Suisei
>Botan
>Fubuki
Ganbatteru
>Sora
>Ayame
>Korone
>Coco

[Anonymous No.]

>>49991024
She can still use 22M as a non invincible meterless reversal that will completely come out even on hit. Meaning that you can ignore oki if you want to trade for the meaty it's coming your way and to get out of stagger pressure since if you guess wrong you just trade one hit instead of getting combo'd.

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>>49983597
Is it really? What does make her so strong? I am having more problems with Suiseis

[Anonymous No.]

>>49991644
You have players being able to buffer invincible reversal input in small ass opening in block string. There will be players being able to input 22M in blockstring opening with ease.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49990518
>burst favors Sora because I'm losing
You might be retarded anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>49994072
> really strong projectile
> really strong teleport that is actually invincible
> really strong oki/pressure
> combo that does okay damage, but build a shit load of meter/collab meter
Kazunoko really focus on aki/sora so I'm pretty sure those 2 characters are top 2 because that guy is always focused on the most broken characters. I think Suisei a close 3rd and she only fall slightly behind she has no invincible reversal at all unlike aki and sora.

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>>49994747
I think he meant burst resetting to neutral favors sora more than other characters because she out-neutral almost all other characters in the game. It takes a lot more effort for other characters to get in on her. Meanwhile, if she force any character to block her big ass 5M or 5H, or give her space to get any note out, she already won neutral and will cornering you. Honestly, maybe only aki and botan can match Sora's neutral.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49995087
Opps, I mean 5m and 6m

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>>49994526
Maybe they made it more comfortable, I'm not sure. I just remember that certain things are ridiculously obnoxious to punish out of block despite being pretty minus. A-chan range isn't the best too so any blockstring that's not tight, but not close will get you punished.

>>49994747
It's not because of losing, but because she inherently starts with momentum at round start and just pushes you to the corner with ease unless you're Aki or something. Then she does degenerate corner blockstrings that last forever that you almost need to burst out of. Essentially, burst in this game is an anti-comeback mechanic due to how it's designed. If you're losing, you pop burst to turn the tables on the opponent. But then once you're trying to press your advantage, the opponent gets burst meter, then they do the same thing to you and you die that round. Of course, you can still mount a comeback even if your burst first, but it varies greatly depending on who you play against. Against someone like Suisei or Sora, you can bet your ass you probably won't make a comeback.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49995839
Not to mention the rate sora build the collab gauge off her pressure is ridiculous. I've seen kazunoko getting 2 robocco collab, which is a 3 bar collab, off in one round with sora.

[Anonymous No.]

Coyo doing a Leos only imposter stream. Come see what characters Coyodachi have dressed their Leo's up as.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBpcnDsKfuQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>49996734
>dressed their Leo's up as.
I'm stupid. I meant what characters they have dressed up as Leo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49996763
I was wondering what the fuck you meant and I still do
also post some screenshots we need the bumps

[Anonymous No.]

>>49996799
>I was wondering what the fuck you meant and I still do
Coyo and Coyodachi are using the character customization to make other Tekken characters look like Leo. Then they will fight Coyo and show off what they made.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49997166
Leo from Resident evil?
Either way sounds fun

[Anonymous No.]

This is the last fig thread...

[Anonymous No.]

>>49999310
SF6 will come in a little over a week, stay strong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49999454
Can we even make it till then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>50000755
Judging by this very thread probably not

[Anonymous No.]

>>49995839
No anon you actually are dumb, bursting early is better because you get burst back sooner, that's the same as Guilty Gear. It's only working against you because you're getting hit more, it's not pro-comeback or anti-comeback, the only advantage is who avoids the most damage by bursting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>50000755
Of course

[Anonymous No.]

Blue rabbit when