/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Phase Connect
They are about to be exposed to being like the black company that they are.
I hope she says everything and exposes the shit that is that company.
Phase stole the model from Yuri
https://twitter.com/Nanobites_/status/1659601560685387776

[Anonymous No.]

The Yuri debacle exposed that Phase Invaders is not like VShojo where you own your IP. It is a fraud and Yuri got taken away of the IP she LEGALLY owned. But then again that's what you expect from the Chinese.

[Anonymous No.]

Phase invaders is a trap for vtubers, you are forced to give your IP to fishman

[Anonymous No.]

Black company

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>>49740290
Please not to make yourself too obivious Henri. We get it "hurr durr phase black company, yuri did nothing wrong". Just kys Henri.

[Anonymous No.]

Please stop using Yuri to wage your autistic shitpost war, you low functioning moron. Thanks.

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>>49740841
>>49740445
>>49740356
>>49740290
Those posts were made by 1 IP

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>>49740356
>Yuri got taken away of the IP she LEGALLY owned.

She sold it to fishman for money. Get over it.

[Anonymous No.]

And yet curiously Lumi still owns her IP.

Maybe you only lose your character when you pawn it to "pay" for a new custom model and rig. Who would have thought that breaking contract after that would leave one with nothing? Truly shocking!

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>>49740846 (me)
Also you better start be loyal to her and watch her stream then if you want to anti Phase so much, Henri.

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Forcing her to sell the IP and also deleting all her content including pre-phase content is a shady move no matter how you spin it, and no matter what she did to get terminated. Even if she didn't want the model, deleting the pre-Phase content is a step too far.

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>>49740981
>Lumi still owns her IP
Source?

[Anonymous No.]

>everyone that says anything against phase is henri
meanwhile half of the board hates them

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>>49740445
Then don't do it? Nobody forced her to join the company. Nobody forced her to break the rules and be terminated either. This was entirely on Yuri.

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>>49741450
Let's be honest, most of the board just hates their fans, and doesn't care about the actual company.

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>>49741332
Would this face lie?

[Anonymous No.]

Watch as the boyfriend connect KEKS try to slide this thread

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>>49741554
Why is her eyelid squishing the pupil in the eye on our right?

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>>49740290
I like Yuri, I want to like Nano. But uh this is her clearly milking the situation for more views on that debut stream coming up. The hot thing to do now is shit on your agency for everyone to see once you graduate, so of course Nano is going to do it. I don't blame her, but I also realize that if she says enough, it will force Phase Connect to make a statement. I don't think everyone should air out all that dirty laundry. For the best of both parties she should just shut up and be the amazing streamer that she already is. She doesn't need to wrestle in the mud for people to watch her. She has so many loyal fans already. It's stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

im gay?

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>>49741780
JWU, QRD on this anon's sexuality?

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>>49741780
Can confirm. Anon is gay.

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>>49740981
That's because Lumi and Sakana are married. She moved to PC when they started dating. She gets extra privileges others don't and that's why all the other talents have to kiss up to her, always feels like they must include her

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>>49741757
She didn't force them to keep her model, that was on them. No one is saying they didn't have the right to kick her to the curb, and if that's all they did she'd only have a limited amount of material to make drama with.

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>>49741450
Tell me one thing that at least half of the board doesn't hate.
>>49740846
See anon that's why you don't post in shit threads. Let their OP samefag all they want, the moment you give him validation it's over.

[Anonymous No.]

Nijisanji deflection thread!

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>>49740981
>And yet curiously Lumi still owns her IP
Yeah she "owns" it until she tries to leave

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>>49741263
She wasn't forced to do anything. Yuri wanted to relaunch thinking it would boost her numbers (titty model for coomers, name change for better searchablity, theaming shift away from hostages, etc) and rather than pay out of pocket agreed to a contract that had the company provide that like she was a normal gen hire with a company owned character. The content deletion started even before any announcement, she did it herself in a fit of menhera after realizing she fucked up.

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>>49740846
Pippa is fucking trash. She's the Lauren Boebert of vtubbing but henri is a huge faggot that needs to be put inside of a cage with rabid dogs see how he likes to be abused.

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>>49741263
Unless Lumi and Fishman conspired against Yuri to force her to sell her model rights, Yuri doesn’t have anyone to blame but herself. She sold the rights of her own volition, she should have known better after just escaping Cyberlive. That means that the Yuri character is now property of Phase, and because they own it they are under no obligation to keep it up when the talent leaves.
She’s probably hoping it’ll be like what happened with Sayu, but Phase isn’t anywhere near a black company as NijiEN. Right now it’s more her own fault for being too menhera enough to not read the contract, and god knows if she’s smart enough to keep any receipts.

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>>49742197
>it is ok to exploit people if they have signed a contract
Is literally the same retarded justification nijifags use to defend their shit

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>>49740290
Godamn, that model looks like an actual Pekora knock off.
Anyways, I don't think this is going to be about the model and IP entirely. It's definitely going to be brought up in there but my current rrat is there will be claims of favoritism/preferential treatment within the company. Maybe even mismanagement but that's low hanging fruit for every small company.
I could be wrong, but didn't Pippa admit she got special treatment a while ago? Feel free to correct me if I am.

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>>49742346
She wasn’t exploited in the same way Sayu was, that’s a massive reach. Yuri at least was able to give a proper farewell and wasn’t thrown to the fans to be doxxed/abused.

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>>49742432
she won't say anything

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>>49742432
>A company gives its biggest money makers special treatment.

How is this shocking exactly?

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>>49742432
>special treatment in a corporation

If she complains about that it just means she has no idea how the business world works.

[Anonymous No.]

Phasefags BTFO

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>>49742660
>>49742724
It's to be expected, but if she really is as surprised about the ip/model thing as some of the retards here are, i don't think it's a stretch to say she could throw in a favoritism claim or two.

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>>49741722
Style effect, to couverts the smugness
Don't think too much about it ,we , artist do that almost on everything to ecaggerate emotion, it's not realistic of course

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>>49740945
At this point I'm convinced he's an anti pretending. He knows it's the wrong wordage.
>>49741554
She actively refused to answer the question, saying shes not going to talk about her contract.
>>49742153
content deletion is not the same as deleting entire accounts. If she wanted them gone it's likely fish would say it was her decision.

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Imagine joining a company and losing your rights

[Anonymous No.]

Phase invaders could only recruit 3 vtubers who don't stream
LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

If you are an independent Vtuber, never join Phase Invaders, you will only lose your IP

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>>49740945
>>49740945
retard
she was forced to sell it if she didn't, fishman wouldn't have let her join the company

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She isn't going to say shit other than vagueposting on social media like >>49740290 to milk her termination for attention. There is a 100% chance fishman has her under an NDA and if she gives any specifics about her contract (like what specifically got her terminated) fishman will probably sue her ass off.

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>>49743060
>>49743537
>>49743605
>>49743663
Totally organic posts from real people btw.

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>>49744099
And so she chose to join the company instead of keeping her IP. In other words she sold it for money. Nobody forced her hand to sign the contract, she willingly accepted it. Stop being a retard hung up on this.

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>>49740290
I take it the Panko anti posting the last few days wasn't working the way you expected?

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>>49740290
>exposed to being like the black company
you think phasefags will care after they applauded phase stealing one of their invader's entire v-tubing history?

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>>49741757
>get terminated and have years of work stolen
>umm actually she is just attention seeking, phase did nothing wrong

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>>49744099
It’s fucking easy for her to say no and grow her brand alongside the other ex CL members. It wouldn’t have harmed her either since there would theoretically be nothing harming her from collabing with Phase as a friend.

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>>49744443
>Sign a contract and sold her stuff for money.
>Umm actually it was stolen from her because I said so and something something black company capitalism bad.

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>>49744099
I didn't know that joining Phase was the only option she had unlike all those other people who went indie instead.

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>It's another Henri is a fucking retard thread

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>>49744358
I guess a retard selling an ip to a company is stealing now

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>>49744696
wait fuck this was meant for >>49744358

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know who to fucking believe anymore

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>>49745143
rrats on vt

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>>49745143
The official info is:
>PC official statement is she was terminated for repeated contract violations.
>Panko and Lumi confirmed that yes she screwed up and there was an attempt to mediate by management and Sakana but they couldn't work it out with Yuri.
>Yuri said nothing for weeks but is now making vague posts on social media without giving any specifics leading up to her indie debut.

Thats it. We have no specifics, no juicy details, just "contract violations" and vague comments. Anyone who claims anything further is pulling it out of their ass.

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>>49745143
1) If Yuri was too stupid to not realize that signing with phase meant that if she got terminated she would lose her model, that's on her for not reading the contract thoroughly or having a lawyer look through it for her.
2) That said, it's a shit contract clause as it is. Termination is a harsh punishment which means the original talent did something that could not have possibly been resolved, but at the same time, the person who paid for the model should get to keep the model. It might suck for the company in the near future in terms of pre-existing company merch and advertising - especially considering Phase are doing a lot of cons right now - but it's still a bullshit clause, and I would urge indie vtubers not to sign with companies who ask you to do so. Either you get a new model and get to keep your indie model as a backup / roommate or don't sign.
>>49745429
I wouldn't trust Lumi or Panko further than the average 15 year old malnourished Indonesian catalogfag could throw them.

[Anonymous No.]

Nothing stays popular forever, right OP?

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>>49745548
To be fair, yuri did rebrand and sakana paid at least in part if not all for her new model.

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>>49742724
Modern ameritards are such fucking cucks when it comes to business and work ethics. Up until 70s, any case of mismanagement was an opportunity to openly tell your boss to go fuck himself and demand him to pay up, but now the corpo is the king.

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Phase Connect is a white company.

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>>49740445
“Forced” maybe take the time to read the contract before you sign it.

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>>49745643
Even if that is the case, I would urge indie vtubers not to sign with companies who ask you to do so. I should have added that if you get a vshojo-esque clause that when you leave you get to take your model with you that's fair, but that's more of a talent agency thing and less a corpo thing. For the chuuba in question, if you're not a wealthy and already popular vshojo-esque streamer that changes designs as much as the sea changes tides, then a model = brand recognition - if you're a 3view, that basically means everything unless you're willing to cause a lot of drama and kick up a stink /here/ to play the victim.

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>>49745743
>t. man who knows all about how things were done pre-70s, and not just someone fantasising about history

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>>49745864
>if you're a 3view, that basically means everything

Yuri was a 2view.

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>>49745962
She paid for her model and became a 3view within phase. I'm not saying she wasn't an idiot for signing if her legit complaint isn't being able to keep her model, but I do think the clause - which essentially takes ownership of the model in exchange for exposure, forget whatever other contract clauses there are - is still bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>read your contracts
>negotiate if the terms are bad
>if you can't get what you want, leverage another job with this offer
Wow. It's so hard to have good contracts! Phase antis are 18 year olds who have never had a real job outside of McDonalds.

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>>49746189
So you're saying nobody should apply for Phase unless they can get a better offer elsewhere to attempt to use as leverage?

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>>49746254
They shouldn't join Phase at all. They should join somewhere like VShojo or Idol which doesn't destroy your life work

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>>49745869
NTA but unions were more of a thing back then.

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>>49742115
>Tell me one thing that at least half of the board doesn't hate.
Korone!

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>>49746254
Other way around. Use what phase connect is offering as leverage to get a better contract at a different corporation.

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>>49746421
Who?

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>>49746379
>Just join VShojo
Fat chance these days if you haven't just left a major Japanese corpo as a 4view and have a fairly sizeable EN fanbase
>Idol
Just stay indie, don't take the shekels.

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>>49746106
She didn't pay for her model, it was company provided, custom designed to her specifications as part of her contract. She went into menhera panic when the redebut hurt her numbers instead of boosting them and started walking back the character changes. When she broke contract she chose not to buy out the model she was already regretting and instead bought a $500 off the shelf Pekora knock off.

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>>49746466
Seems like you don't hate her, so that's a good start.

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>>49744332
Yuri used to look like that? Why did she downgrade from that level of cuteness?

[Anonymous No.]

>Break contract repeatedly
>Refuse to fix your behavior
>Get terminated
OH NO HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME

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>>49746482
700 actually, and she said on her last stream that phase paid her to cover the cost of it

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>>49745143
Believe nothing, stop caring. Watch talents based on their entertainment value.

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>>49740900
they can barely afford proxies in SEA please understand

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>>49746595
Cute and funny twitch streamer rebrands as a big titty whore to attract simps, many such cases.

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>>49746732
You'd think he'd try a little harder though... He must be tired after spending months trying to fuck with the friends section

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>>49746637
So Phase paid for the new Yuri model AND the rabbit model. But Fish is still the bad guy?

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>>49746595
Her chat was like 90% coomers and she thought it would help her get better numbers as big titty models were currently in.

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>>49746917
The new Yuri design was shit, though

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>>49746482
The sales page listed ¥80,000 so whatever that exchanges to, and the wording was something like her last cheque from Phase covered it.

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>>49747004
That's a rude thing to say about a model Yuri designed for herself.

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>>49740290
Being sacked isn't a decision

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>>49747204
>Her initial design is loli
>Her "hand picked re-design" is busty as fuck
>Gets terminated
>Her new design is loli

I don't buy it.

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>>49746917
>So Phase paid for the new Yuri model AND the rabbit model. But Fish is still the bad guy?
Phase management handled this termination so well that dramafags are really having a hard time constructing a narrative here, it is funny to watch them fumble around looking for an angle to play though.

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>>49747243
People who think the grass is greener on the other side often have buyers remose.

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>>49747316
Remorse

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>>49747243
She didn't design the new model, it was a pre-made thing she bought with her severence pay. She probably picked it because its a pekora knock off.

[Anonymous No.]

Phasejannies are on full damage control.Kek

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>>49747242
>Being sacked isn't a decision
No, but her deciding to barely stream and not take her job seriously was definitely a decision she made.

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>>49747407
Yeah, she picked a cheap loli because she realized fucked up with the coomer relaunch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49745864
Yuri never created anything herself it all came from her previous corpo

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>>49740290
henri kys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIC9OYlkM8w&t=2s

[Anonymous No.]

>>49746475
>thinking idol would just let there girls leave
Lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>49747708
Retard, you know they axed half of their hebrew first gen within less than a year right? Even you idol shills seem too dumb to know what the fuck you even support.

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>>49740290
>con fishman out of money
>"It was their fault!"

[Anonymous No.]

Feelio when I like both Phase Connect and Yuri

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>>49741263
They bought it, they paid for the said already made content. I don't like it either but you don't get your cake and eat it too, that old content would actually make them money after firing Yuri, there must be other legal reason for them to delete it, same for other corpos who don't keep old content of retired chuubas unless they make some form of an agreement about it.

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2 more weeks?

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>>49747810
That was before they pumped untold money into the company

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>>49748013
you like a fucking company? anon get a grip. If you like members of phase then like them.

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>>49747526
I'm surprised there isn't more speculation regarding the cause of her termination. Barely streaming alone couldn't have been the sum of it, but if she was soliciting donations under the table those combined may have flown a bit too close to tax evasion?

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>>49740445
1. Nobody is forced. You voluntarily sign it away.
2. We know that the contracts are different depending on the person. So it could be theoretically possible that a bigger streamer be able to negotiate to keep the rights to their character after they leave.

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>>49745143
Don't beleive anyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49748334
kys indieshitter

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>>49746637
Yuri covered it with her store job actually

[Anonymous No.]

>>49749766
how about no

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>>49741263
It's their property, they can do what they want with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49750047
She's either the densest motherfucker or knew exactly what she was doing.

[Anonymous No.]

Yuri lied about being a cat.

>>49740356
Lumi apparently owns her model though, it's Yubi who signed it away like the little retard she is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49744505
>grow her brand
Doesn't Hylo do OF now? Kek, grifting bitches.

[Anonymous No.]

Phase shills acting the same as Mousefags and Nijisisters.

[Anonymous No.]

UH OH DRAMA SISTERS, WHAT IS THIS
https://twitter.com/Nanobites_/status/1659673889864052739
>>49740290
>>49750230
>>49750560

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>>49750700
I guess she never plans on telling what happened either. Not gonna watch her then since I'm not going to support someone that potentially did something really bad and would rather hide her skeletons in the closet than own up to it.

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>>49750700
Destiny? Well at least it's not Apex.

[Anonymous No.]

I am curious if Yuri had the cash for it, if she could have bought the model back.

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>>49740290
Who? Honest inquiry.

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>>49740290
Phase niggers are in the same level as nijinitroons, sucking corpo dick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49751038
Good make sure to keep Phase Connect live rent free in your head desu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49750870
Are you that ass blasted commie?

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>>49750870
I'm sure she cant talk about it due to NDA, and wants to keep supporting her friends still in the company, not cause them drama and risks.

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>>49742158
Boohoo, man say mean thing to poor wittle girl, what an abuser! Bitch got what she deserved>>49742197

[Anonymous No.]

>instead of being reasonable with Yuri, decide to delete everything she ever produced
>instead of hiring the people everyone was hoping for, the new "phase invaders" are a bunch of nepotism people nobody cares about
pippa will abandon the sinking ship at some point

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>>49751829
Yuri an heroed
Slugma Balls
Pippa is literally the ship now

[Anonymous No.]

>>49751829
Lisa doesn't want to join phase connect and neither purin. Kys poachnig.

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>>49746482
Nano said she had to take out a loan to buy her model because she didnt have any money due to the whole situation being sudden.

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>>49752073
So there are three stories now?
>money from her "store job"
>Phase paid / last paycheck
>got a loan for vtuber assets
Lmao

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>>49752316
As far as I knew she had to get a loan but paid it back off her job. So it can be the same story.

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>>49751600
There are a million other vtubers. I'm not going to watch one that was fired for undisclosed reasons.

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>>49752316
why not ask her vaguely for details? shes an indie now, not a corpo

[Anonymous No.]

More phase drama? bvtm gonna be busy this week dredging up old holo yabs and doxes

[Anonymous No.]

>>49752694
I doubt she'll openly admit using part of her 4k new PC fundraiser for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49752316
we knew she had a part time job before termination

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>>49740290
>same decision
If I had a chance to work with Tenma, I would never leave.

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>>49753534
Anon she's a screeching gremlin with anger issues.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49753785
I know, right? She's the most beautiful creature to ever grace this forsaken planet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49753785
Literally perfect, you're only upselling her even more.

[Anonymous No.]

I do not care if she ever tells us the reason.
I do not care if it was legit just an irreconcilable issue over contracts.
I do not care if it was nothing other than normal business.
The fact that Fish faggot couldn't either say she's graduating, or just state what caused the termination in clear, non vague, plain English, makes him a faggot. The other Phase talents then vagueposting about it, means I don't trust a damn thing any of them have to say on the matter, either.
I could accept all of it, if people were fucking out with it. They were not, so excuse me when I say that everyone involved deserves to drink bleach on the matter. That includes Henri, the fucking faggot.

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>>49740290
Got caught about what 4 weeks ago siphoning supas and donos to her alt so she could cut Fishmen out and after a significant amount of time its finally time to dreage up the yab in the hopes that the reason she got shit canned in the first place has been memory holed...

[Anonymous No.]

>>49754084
>I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY FAILED TO CONSULT THEIR INTERNAL AFFAIRS WITH ME, A COMPLETE STRANGER ON THE INTERNET

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>>49754084
Ok Henri.
The details either enter doxing territory or legal liability. Fishman's silence is likely a kindness Yuri doesn't deserve.

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>>49753888
>>49753935
She's been spending the last two days just fighting frogs.

[Anonymous No.]

I AM DISAPPOINTED WITH MOST OF THIS THREAD, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU SUPPORT A TYRANTIC DECISION BY FISHMAN (STEALING YURI'S MODEL), JUST BECAUSE YOU LIKE PHASE CONNECT?
DON'T YOU SEE THE INJUSTICE?
DO YOU JUST LOOK THE OTHER SIDE?

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>>49754496
THEY ARE ALL SLAVES TO THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT ANON, THEY'D RATHER CHOKE ON SAKANA'S BALLS THAN ACTUALLY SIDE WITH THE ACTUAL TALENTS

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>>49754496
>>49754679
Take your meds. Your judas 2view sabotaged herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49754870
Are u a retard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49745429
Didn't Panko say she wouldn't comment on Yuri because if she told the viewers what she did they would end up hating her?

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>>49754401
Retard.
>>49754409
>Ok Henri.
I think you missed him, anon.>>49754496 >>49754679

>>49755500
In the vaguest way that allows her to claim she didn't say that, yes.

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>>49755500
Yep, and Tenma the archetype of radiant perfection, implied the same and joked about the "graduation".

[Anonymous No.]

What I don't get is why exactly Phase would want to keep her model in the first place? I doubt they're going to do anything with it, and everyone who gives a fuck will know she's a different character now.

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>>49755801
I imagine they wanted to keep it because they paid for the new model and it was a termination. No idea if they'd act differently if it was a cleaner break in good terms, but I can see logic of not letting an employee that broke contract just leave with the expensive asset that you funded.

Unless Yuri actually paid for the redebut out of pocket, of course.

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>>49750870
I'm gonna watch her just to spite this gaywad

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>>49750700
>Playing destiny 2 after the massive disappointment that was lightfall
For once im siding with the corpo on this one, for shame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49754409
It's doxxing. Yuri doxxed her friends at Phase Connect to someone she shouldn't have. A common Phase Enemy if you will, someone Henri is very familiar with.

[Anonymous No.]

OMG

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>>49740290
Phase Connect moved on, and she should too.

We're gonna find out a lot about Yuri's IRL character soon.
Unless she has some real whistle blower shit, she needs to remember there are allegedly a lot of her friends still happily in Phase. If she starts going after the company that Pippa, Lia, Tenma, and Uruka built because she is maybe a little bitter that things didn't work out the way she wanted because of some great wrong Sakana did, she risks losing friendships. Friendships she claimed mattered to her not so long ago.
If those mean nothing to her, then that is her call to make.

If Pippa, Lia, Tenma and Uruka thought Sakana acted unfairly, they would've fought hard both against what management wanted + tried to convince Yuri to stay. They already fought against the censorship arc and won last fall.

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Yuri's model was stolen, do you understand or not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49756998
and the record, Pippa, Lia, Tenma and Uruka have all kept Yuri’s name out of their mouth they haven't said shit.
If Yuri wants to throw shots at Lumi or Panko for speaking out of turn and being gossip niggers, the fair enough.

[Anonymous No.]

Phase fans
answer honestly
What did you think of Fishman's decision to steal Yuri's model?
give me your honest opinion

[Anonymous No.]

>>49757314
Sakana is a colonizer. White American at heart I respect it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49757314
I think he should hire Menace and give her the Yuri character.

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>>49757314
I don't really care what she did, I still think it's fucking weird at best, and scummy at worst for taking all her models and taking down her socials. I would understand if they made her give back the new model and take down content made during her time at phase.
I don't care how the IP was signed off to Phase, I don't think you should have an "invaders" branch, advertised the way it is, and be able to take ownership over the full IP of the vtuber, including things that didnt belong to them before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49740290
Hey dramaniggers, friendly reminder that even Yuri doesn't want you throwing shade at Phase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49757552
Yeah I agree, Why keep her old model that she got from leaving cyberlive? Why delete all her content and keep her channel? They could have let her keep her old name and her old model at minimum.

[Anonymous No.]

this thread is just unpaid interns trying to make phase invaders start off on the wrong foot, can't believe you guys are all falling for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>49757264
Didn't Tenma say something about Yuri in the mahjong collab tho?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49757855
Dramafags will try to convince you so. That's all they're good at, taking things out of context.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49757314
I think it was unnecessary. But I'm still not gonna stop watching Pippa and Lumi because of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49754496

[Anonymous No.]

>>49757855
No. She made 3 jokes along the lines
>im gonna graduate guyz!
Lia and Pippa werent amused and said “Too soon”, but it wasn't anything noteworthy

[Anonymous No.]

She could buy back the character but chose not to
she cares less about that character than you retards do

[Anonymous No.]

>>49750700
>>49750870
>she actually left on good terms, as anyone who read the termination notice would see
>catalogsisters who only believe their own headcanon are left completely confused
Good to see. Get fucked dramashitters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49740290
>Out of context screenshot that directly references her debut in the screenshot, and ends up having something to do with her debut.
>Yuri has been openly supporting phase for the last few weeks
>Things aren't black and white, Yuri is still friends with phase members, and wants people to support everyone.
If Yuri wanted to say something bad about Phase, she could do it without breaking an NDA. She hasn't. Until she speaks out, the assumption you can make with what we have is that she's moving on, and still supports her old company no matter what happened during her termination.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49758435
>Terminated for numerous violations
>no graduation send-off
"Good Terms"
>>49758626
Literally anything she could say would self-incriminate her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49759048
>he really refuses to read the termination notice
oh wow

[Anonymous No.]

>>49740445
>sell house
>"wait wtf do u mean i cant live here and u will call the cops??"

[Anonymous No.]

>>49759257
>believes boilerplate
She got Rushia'ed, not Coco'ed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49759740
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>49755801
Collateral.
To not do whatever the fuck she evidently did anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

I will hate on all on Phase Connect al long as Wonton girl part of it.
She needs to graduate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49750047
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>49754084
Who the fuck is this Henri I keep hearin about

[Anonymous No.]

>>49759791
>he really only believes his own headcanon
oh wow

[Anonymous No.]

>>49760248
Who & why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49752073
She knew she was going to be canned I think some weeks in advance. She "joked" about it in a destiny vod.
>>49752316
>"store job"
it was just "job". Also it's not 3 stories. She said she got a loan and paid it of from her "job" whether it's store job or phase is unknown.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49750230
she knows what she is doing, she's baiting people who want drama, and then won't deliver on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49759740
In this analogy an agency is like the Homeowners Association and when you move out they keep all your furniture

[Anonymous No.]

>>49760896
That's likely after negotiations had started. It's known Sakana tried to reconcile the violations with her for some time before the announcement so the only thing sudden was her realization the problem wasn't going to go away and she wasn't going to be able to walk away with everything since she bought the fake pekora literally the night before it became public.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49762863
It's like selling the title to your car to a dealership, then entering into a lease-to-purchase agreement on a new car and you used you old car as downpayment, and then the lease ends and you can't afford to buy it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49760806
I don't want to get b&

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder if Yuri cleans up her act if Phase would ever hire her back as Yuri?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49765827
why would you get banned?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49756505
Destiny 2 was DoA. By the first expansion I dropped that turd of a franchise.

[Anonymous No.]

So, glancing at this thread, it's like the Zaion situation except if the company isnt black?

[Anonymous No.]

I still don't believe that Lia didn't know from the start what was going on.
I believe she knew as early as mid March that Yuri was in danger.
She is a good girl and not a snitch gossip, but she 100% knows where the bodies are buried. Yuri has a big fat mouth and would've talked with her no doubt about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49766857
>Yuri was in danger.
She endangered herself

[Anonymous No.]

>Hololive: good corporate culture, crazy fucking insufferably schizoid fans who are impossible to associate with, company has to chastise them like children for being annoying faggots
>Phase connect and nijisanji: black corpos who treat their talents like shit, but the fans are way more supportive of their oshis and don't spend literally 24/7 of their time fighting each other over nothingburgers
Why the fuck are these my options? This industry is retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

Since Yuri is here, I want you to know I like your new model, and I want to fuck your bunny cunny!
Also please start streaming already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49767065
>Phase connect and nijisanji: black corpos
only one of these gives 1% of the profits to the talents, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>49767316
t. fishman

[Anonymous No.]

>>49765827
Did one of them say something about heckin' controversial wontons in their PL or something?
What the fuck can you even say controversial about wontons?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49767065
Ever heard of indies, retard-chama? Nobody's pointing a gun at you and forcing you to watch only corpos.

[Anonymous No.]

so true sister

[Anonymous No.]

>>49767065
Well anon.
There's always VShojo.

[Anonymous No.]

OMG SISTERS NO WAY

[Anonymous No.]

>>49766857
of course lia knew. I would imagine her, pippa and tenma all knew and were consulted on some level.
those 3 got yuri hired in the first place. firing one of them willy nilly could cause mutiny and destroy the company, especially if pippa was like "fuck that. this isn't right. fire her fire me."

[Anonymous No.]

>>49766275
They managed to turn it around with Forsaken at least, that was a great run. Then it went downhill with Shadowkeep, and while it improved with Witch Queen they fucked up by removing the content you paid for.

>>49765857
I doubt it. Phase made it sound like they tried to patch things up with Yuri, but there were just irreconcilable differences. And even if they felt bad about what they did and thought about rehiring her, I think her recent vaguepost about the situation before clarifying 5 hours later would've been enough to turn them away for good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49767626
Yuri's best friends in the company are all people who are a part of the flagship. It's not like her company friend circle was shitters like Panko or Erina who have no pull and couldn't help her if she was being treated unfairly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49766206
>>49767508
I wouldn't telling but getting a ban for that whore is not worth it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49767548
>Indies: menheras with an average career of 6 months or religious followers of the Twitch meta, also every single last one of their fans is a rabid numberfag due to how numberfagging is intrinsically tied to success as an indie
Woo

[Anonymous No.]

yuri is way too menhera not to leak what happened

[Anonymous No.]

my headcanon is still
>got caught accepting donos under the table
>was told that she would need to delete yuricord and her throne
>she said no
>they fired her
also reminder she essentially got a free $4,000 computer as a parting gift

[Anonymous No.]

>>49768308
>she essentially got a free $4,000 computer
you can't take company property when you're fired from a company

[Anonymous No.]

>>49768497
do you even know the timeline?
>held a fundraiser for 4k for a new computer
>got it
>built it
>was fired days later
>phase let her keep it and then offered refunds to all who donated

[Anonymous No.]

>>49767904
my only thought on the matter is that she sold yuri in an attempt to fund something, maybe with plans to buy it back later

[Anonymous No.]

>>49767913
Then why even bring it up, you colossal faggot?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49768660
I didn't, then why are all these fags saying that PC is a black company when they let her keep the computer and took the 4k loss

[Anonymous No.]

although it would be interesting if she started going after phase.
yuri runs in the same circles as pippa, lia, lumi etc, and if yuri started going scorched earth, i bet the phase girls could get her blacklisted from other indies helping her.

there is only so far yuri can say "hey! remember the time you were a 2view and I made you a squibby? please help me now I need a favor!"

[Anonymous No.]

Yuri fucked around and found out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49769028
because they're weird dramafags or vtweeters

Phase took a loss all around on this so it couldn't just be about money or numbers or stream quantity since others in the company have similar issues/hiatuses/etc.
Something was done and someone was unwilling to redress it. That's the short of it.

[Anonymous No.]

What is it with black company fans and being corpo bootlickers?
Did phasecucks really buy into le sad girl company unironically?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49766275
Red war was destiny at its worst, but forsaken definetly turned the game into something worth playing. Only saving grace of anything post-forsaken was this OST piece.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff0aVynnG9g

[Anonymous No.]

>>49770358
Phase fans are loyal to the brand because it was a start up from nothing and their flagship gen1 is all still around and doing well.

The second one of Pippa, Tenma, Lia or Uruka graduates and goes indy? Then and only then will the bloom be off the rose. They could graduate all of Gen2 tomorrow and nobody would care or bat an eye. They got over Yuri in 2 threads. They don't have any attachment to Lumi she is not a phase girl she is cyberlive.

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>>49743605
>>49740445
And all of them got new names and new models (other than Ember's name). This is handled very differently compared to Yuri and Lumi.
All of them got new YouTube accounts whilst their Twitch accounts are renamed old ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49770358
>>49770781
To pretending to be a homobegger reply to your own post, samefaggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49740445
>forced
Pretty sure the contracts are voluntary. Yeah it would have been better if fishman at least let her retain her pre-Phase model, but she entered the contract of her own free will.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49759740
the real pro move is
>sell your house
>squat in the house """""""""""""""""legally"""""""""""""""""" for the next 3 years
>rent out rooms in the house you're squatting in

[Anonymous No.]

>>49766206
>>49767508
Archive reps, newfriends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49770781
Shut up, Lumi can't leave until we get our lemons back! Though we have sneaking suspicions as to where she's hiding them.

The original talents proved they can work through problems with management and come out on top. Policies got changed and extra support was hired. Many could have walked and been better off than when they joined but stayed on trusting that the changes they were able to implement would bear fruit, and they have. This kind of growth means a lot to fans.

[Anonymous No.]

I find all this "spent years building a character only to have it stolen later" quite funny. Let's first ignore the fact that nobody stole her model, it was a breach of contract, and everything was conducted the appropriate way. Now focus on the "spent years building a character" You do realize that Yuri hasn't been around for that long? It was a CL character? And Yuri has been in phase as Yuri longer than she has been in CL? And she consequently got more shit out of Phase to build her character than she ever did indie or from CL?
Fucking before you dream up some bullshit because you fags watched too many movies, do some basic fact checking. Stop embarrassing yourselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49757014
No, because it wasn't. You should understand how the adult world, contracts, obligations and etc. work before opening your 12 year old mouth again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49759791
Rushia and coco also left for very different reasons. One graduated due to creative differences, one was terminated for breaking the rules. Sound familiar? Stop answering your own question and then pretend you don't know the answer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49773590
retardchama, can you not follow a simple analogy? Please call the hospital I fear you're stroking out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49742158
I knew there was a reason I liked Pippa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49757314
>>49757552
>>49757775
you will never get a job with that aptitud

[Anonymous No.]

>>49767508
https://files.catbox.moe/1di85u.mp4

[Anonymous No.]

>>49741554

Absolutely.

[Anonymous No.]

What do you think Sakana plans to do with the Yuri model? Just vault it, or give it to another invader?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49782213
She was a war criminal. Yuri is being tried at the International Criminal Court as we speak.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49746408
And people cheered when they got taken down for going way overboard, and before that they would send Pinkerton/hire lowerwage people or both

[Anonymous No.]

>>49744799
Time for popcorn

[Anonymous No.]

>>49782465
Then why is Tenma is still not in jail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSGeLuhgRRs

[Anonymous No.]

>>49759791
She got to make a vid

[Anonymous No.]

>>49784328
No prison can hold her, she'd be late to work.

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>>49770781
>They don't have any attachment to Lumi
That's just not true. Lumi is inarguably 1 of the big 3, arguably bigger than Lia. Definitely more relevant than Uruka, and even Tenma, whether they are "OGs" or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49784489
Lumi's hands typed this post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49760633

[Anonymous No.]

>>49757949
Based chinchilla

[Anonymous No.]

>>49756686
My dick?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49766468
Less hostile

[Anonymous No.]

>>49740290
No Nano. I'm not a woman so I'm not dumb enough to make the choices you made.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49767372
But he gives slightly better quality merch and coffee

[Anonymous No.]

>>49784638
Doubt it since they're on my dick

[Anonymous No.]

I don't understand the obsession with Lumi. She has a good model, but is otherwise such a basic bitch with an Gigastacy attitude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49784415
A two minute prepared statement is a far cry from a heartfelt multi-hour farewell party put on by all your friends and coworkers.

[Anonymous No.]

>phasekeks destroying themselves

[Anonymous No.]

>>49740290
lmao what a shitshow

[Anonymous No.]

>>49740445
laughs in moonjelly

[Anonymous No.]

>>49740290
Get in the cage, Henri. It's time for your dick flattening.

[Anonymous No.]

qrd?

[Anonymous No.]

I think most people ignore what company Yubi was terminated from. Phase Connect. The company that is lenient enough that people like Pippa (notorious containment breaker, speaks without stopping to think of future consequences), Tenma (have a hair trigger, always inserting herself into drama due to her hot headedness), Lia (Self-sabotaging menhera zoomer), Uruka (sheltered and young, to the point that she yabs [ie. revealing a suprise way before it was plan to be revealed] without knowing), Nasa (gura at home), not to mention the countless times other talents that are not listed making fun of the company (particularly the merch side) for her to get fired from that kind of environment, it must have been quite the fuck-up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49766857
>>49767626
Lia fired Yuri as a “joke” in February.
https://www.youtube.com/live/RJ-wgkng5Ww?feature=share
3:18:54

[Anonymous No.]

>>49790255
Oddly enough, i think this was the last time Yuri was in Lia’s chat and last time she interacted with Lia. I remember Yuri was upset when chat told Lia to cute Yuri’s salary

[Anonymous No.]

>>49790494
*cut

[Anonymous No.]

>>49790494
Last time was when Lia showed the n-word on screen

[Anonymous No.]

aw sweet, a schizo thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>49790547
That doesn't narrow it down much

[Anonymous No.]

>>49790725
It was a week before Yuri disappeared. Lia showed that furry scale image without realizing it said nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>49790255
She also fired herself and several other talents
OH NO SISTERS, THE COMPANY IS IMPLODING AND EVERYONE WILL BE FIRED
Fucking retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>49740356
If she legally owns the IP then how did PC take it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49790763
Oh yeah that one lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>49740290
I can already see the bait threads in the catalog now kek phaseshitters are scared

[Anonymous No.]

>>49740290
>serious question !
is op a sea-monkey or eurofag? (you) decide !

[Anonymous No.]

>>49740846
Pippa smokes? Dropped. This bitch will die of lung cancer

[Anonymous No.]

Can I have a QRD of who is this Henri?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49778781
Ahhhhhhh ok I've seen that clip, forgot the line that lead into the needle-scratch. Wondered recently what happened to her, actually.
Lia right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49740290
>Yuri
>Stealing
Anon i…

[Anonymous No.]

>>49740290
Kys Henry

[Anonymous No.]

>>49755500
Panko did nothing wrong!

[Anonymous No.]

>>49785208
In Pippa's privated coffee stream, where she tried her own coffee and absolutely hated it, I sent her a sc saying I would still buy the coffee if she got a nice cut. She said something like, "uh, yeeeaaahhh...." So I didn't buy it, because she don't get shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49791107
It’s Henry

[Anonymous No.]

>>49792472
so
> not sea
> not euro
> not even human
just monkey

[Anonymous No.]

>>49740290
who even is this lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>49787970
This is so far from a shit show. Her termination was handled so well that dramafags cant find an angle. Oh wait, you are a dramafag. Put more effort into it

[Anonymous No.]

>>49792841
Pretty sure he isn’t african

[Anonymous No.]

>>49747243
You did not watch Yuri nor Lumi. They designed their models, this is why it took so long to debut them. Lumi had her model done months before debut, but since she needed to debut her new model with Yuri, she had to wait for all the changes Yuri wanted.
Yuri probably got gaslit into thinking that would be a good model based on the overdesigned garbage that Vshojo has.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49740290
Dont care

[Anonymous No.]

>>49740900
kek

[Anonymous No.]

I would give anything for Lia and Yuri to collab again as Lia and Yuri. They were the best duo Phase ever had by far.

Also would pay money to be stuck in an elevator with then after they both pigged out on Taco Bell

[Anonymous No.]

>>49748998
wtf i sub now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49755719
Is Tenma the Fubuki equivalent for Phase Connect?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49796307
You definitely do not watch. Lumi's redebut was delayed by 3 months because her artist got COVID.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49791883
No

[Anonymous No.]

>>49797276
neon is just slow as fuck in general

[Anonymous No.]

>>49791883
Shiina

[Anonymous No.]

>>49740981
Give away her old good model for that new shit?
And then quit, giving up both?
What a retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>49796736
If Fubuki was an alcoholic grandma. But as far as being a barometer for the company? She puts in the hours and does a lot of extra work to polish her streams so is definitely one of the more traditionally "professional" members that could easily manage without Phase if the environment soured. Combine that with being bluntly vocal with her opinions and we'd know pretty quickly if things sucked internally.

[Anonymous No.]

are phasefags the most retarded group of people on the board? this is borderline clinically diagnosed retard level of stupid

[Anonymous No.]

>>49740981
>And yet curiously Lumi still owns her IP.
You don't know that.
Hopefully Lumi gets fired soon so we know who really owns Kaneko Lumi

[Anonymous No.]

>>49799053
And this matters because?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49799053
When this first broke and chat asked Lumi about that she simply responded that their contracts were different.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49746595
Because she's retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>49799188
BECAUSE if she gets fired and is back on the indies as Kaneko Lumi, then it shows she owns her ip.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49799358
saying contracts are different does not mean she owns her ip. that is skating the question.
the only way we will know is if she leaves phase connect and is still using her name/model.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49751017
You cannot buy something that isn't for sale. Why would Phase just re-sell the model? What if she didn't want it anyway?
A lot of people assume she wanted it, with no proof.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49799472
>>49799358
the only way Lumi owns Kaneko Lumi is if Sakana is taking something retarded like 40% cut of her earnings to make up for the fact that he doesn't own it.
Negotiations are give and take. If you want to keep something, then you have to give something somewhere else. He is a shrewd chinese businessman and people need to wake up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49799630
Found the winner of today's stupidest post award.

It's the other way around, moron, if the company isn't giving you anything they get less of a take, not more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49754444
Yes, she has. In fact, if I could fill her aging womb to the brim with my semen my life's purpose would be complete. Alas...

[Anonymous No.]

>>49799630
also Lumi and Yuri weren't coming from a point of real leverage when they initially signed, either. Lumi was like 150 twitch, 200 on a great day when signed. Yuri was about 100.

Regardless, Lumi made the most of her time in Phase and inclined using the platform and resources they gave her + she put the work in, so even if she doesn't own the IP the move was still worth it for her because she got mega returns in growth, growth she would not have gotten being an indie. Yuri didn't do shit with her opportunity in Phase Connect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>49740290
If you are a newbie, remember that these threads are just bait, and started by dramafaggots that just want to start shit. Don't get attached.

[Anonymous No.]

how different would phase connect be if they never hired yumi -vs- how different would yumi be if they stayed indie after quitting cyberlive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>49799472
It does heavily imply it while still respecting the fact that she most likely isn't supposed to talk about the details of her contract in public.

>>49799630
Sometimes saying no is all that it takes to change something in your favor.

>>49799890
>also Lumi and Yuri weren't coming from a point of real leverage when they initially signed
Phase was much smaller at that time.