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49507440 No.49507440 [Reply] [Original]

Thoughts on Nazuna distancing herself from Vshojo?

>> No.49507502

who?

>> No.49507556

>>49507440
she's being smart for once

>> No.49507615

wish she would just announce her graduation already

>> No.49507702

>>49507440
They either need to get more JP members or she should just leave. Or just do collabs with Henya and Kson and see how it goes.

>> No.49507728

shondo tf you smokin dude

>> No.49507761

>>49507556
Elaborate

>> No.49507813
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>>49507440
Don't use my wife for your bait threads.

>> No.49507835

She's the only person in the company that speaks only Japanese, and it's pretty alienating to be in a group of people when they start talking a different language. It's not really "distancing" so much as it's being distanced. It'd be nice if the JP branch hired other people that only streamed in Japanese or at least primarily in Japanese for her to actually collab with and bond with.

>> No.49507886

>shondo being a dramafag concernfag

>> No.49507892

>>49507440
At a certain point these people need to stop with the cognitive dissonance and accept that maybe, just maybe, this oshi has severe mental illness and her behaviour towards others is her own fault

If you’re more worried about your oshi and not happy and entertained you need a new oshi

>> No.49507954

>>49507761
Kson would have to choose between losing chat and losing Nazuna.

>> No.49507960

>>49507440
Here's my thoughts about it. I know that Nazuna might be the only JP in Vsojo, but, taking all things into consideration and carefuly analysing the content that she put out so far, I honestly just need to point out that I jerked off 5 times in a row to her Mikeneko card unpacking stream.

>> No.49508161

>>49507813
Shondo is a pandering /here/fag. She reaps what she sows.

>> No.49508272

>>49507440
Can't speak english and clearly had different vision of what VShojo will be. I suspect her leaving VShojo in 2024 when her contract will be over, assuming that it was for 2 years like for western side.
Would be funny is Cuckson in her greatness made VShojoJP girls sign contract for longer, making her into horrible boss and VShojo plus a black company.

>> No.49508271

>>49507440
Who's this fucktard

>> No.49508340

>>49508161
Retard. It is easy to tell that you don't watch streams.

>> No.49508346

>>49507440
TLDR

>> No.49508451

>>49507702
they need more HoloJP members to leave first for that to happen

>> No.49508549

>>49507440
>Be Nazuna
>Maybe I’ll stream on miguel cat today to check on my fans
>Nani!?? what is this numbers and supports, My fans..:3 both JP and kaigainiki are still here after all
>Wait…..If Nyanner,Silver,Vei senpai can become indie that easily and got to keep the model….
>Then maybe… just maybe… If I graduate now, I got to keep my free model!! and I also can return to youtube and stream more for my fans and double the money!!
HOURIISHITTO!!!!

>> No.49508631

>>49508346
vShojo JP doesnt work

>> No.49508642

>>49507440
Maybe she just wants to do solo shit, like her entire career previously

>> No.49508686

>>49507440
Two bilinguals make her feel left out. Mirai Akari when?

>> No.49508832
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>>49508642
>maybe she wants to do solo shit
>joins corpo

>> No.49508949

Haachama will be the next vshojo hire nazuna won't be alone anymore

>> No.49508989

>>49508832
look at HoloEN. half of them are solo streamers

>> No.49509099

>>49507440
Her funeral

>> No.49509295

Henya and kson just need to plan something with nazuna and I'm sure she would jump for it.

>> No.49509361

>everyone in vshojo invited to collab
>nazuna ignores it and does a twitcast
>oh no she's so excluded

>> No.49509407

>>49509295
Nazuna is too busy with her gfe role to do any of that.

>> No.49509438
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49509438

Why are you using my wife and my wife's wife for bait threads

>>49508161
>>49507886
Noooo she isn't allowed to ramble about her oshi on her alt account nooooo

>> No.49509446

>>49507440
Yeah I really wish they'd hire Nazuna an actual JP friend to play with. I don't get why Nazuna doesn't try and get more involved with JP indies though. I guess it's very awkward.

I can understand why she wouldn't want to be in this kind of collab where she would feel like KSon or Henya were translating everything for her.

Hopefully there's more JP to come. I really want Nazuna to find happiness and success.

>> No.49509511

She shouldn't collab with western niggers unless they speak Japanese.

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>>49508832

>> No.49509643

>>49509438
Noooo we aren't allowed to bait with your oshi's ramblings nooooo

>> No.49509725

>>49507440
Why does someone make a bait thread every time Shondo dares tweet literally anything from her alt account
She rambles about being worried about her oshi and this means literally anything? The girl is actually schizophrenic, and hates this place, which says a lot for all of you.

>> No.49509827

I can see her feeling left out since this collab with her too would still be 99% in English.

>>49509438
I understand her concern but it would have been nice to keep it for herself instead of airing it in public because while it still isn't drama per se yet, it's fuel for retards like OP and other dramafags and catalogfags to try to start shit despite not understanding any context.

>> No.49509948

>>49509827
Shondo doesn't give a shit about this board and hates drama, she's just rambling in a place she views as private about her feelings, which is what she always do.
Unfortunately everything has to be bait /here/.

>> No.49509966

>>49507954
She already lost a rather significant sum of her old fanbase after what she pulled at the end of last month, and has already achieved Her Dream™.
She really has nothing to lose at this point other than to keep poaching graduated and busted JP chuubas into her clique.

>> No.49510099

I think yagoo should give her one final chance. Everyone deserves one. She's obviously suffering in vshitjo.

>> No.49510136

>>49507440
Shondo's biggest problem is that she forgets she is now a big vtuber herself, since she's been a vtuber watcher for so long. She makes rambly posts like this because it's just what she's thinking about and venting this stuff out is good for her mentally, she doesn't know or realize some schizo is going to screenshot it and manipulate it into this week's drama
That kind of mindset is what I wish I could still have

>> No.49510167

>>49510099
She's not coming back you fucking retard.

>> No.49510252

>>49509643
yes. improve yourself

>> No.49510290

>>49510167
Shut it imbecile, I'm reaching out to adults here, go eat your cookies and drink your milk and go to sleep child.

>> No.49510293

>>49509438
>doesn't even censor the name
If she wants to rant, at least do it right, but then as an EN indie vtuber, her desire for drama and clout is probably stronger.

>> No.49510349

>>49509966
you tell them, vtsister

>> No.49510377

>>49510293
So true oomfie

>> No.49510433

Shondo was Pippa and Fauna before it was cool and both of them are herefags who only know about here because of Shondo, who is the original. Fuck that bitch Nyanners.

>> No.49510497

>>49510293
Except Shondo only posts this stuff because she thinks there is 0 chance anyone she's talking about has any clue she exists
She thinks she is legitimately a 2view or something. All of her friends are actual 2views and she's terrified of interacting with anyone bigger than her
She does not understand that there is a real possibility that the talents she's talking about know she exists or might even read it

>> No.49510659

>>49507440
Maybe Nazuna is just antisocial or doesn't fit in with the clique.

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>>49509966
>She already lost a rather significant sum of her old fanbase
>source
>the voices in my head

>> No.49510798

Why is so much of this thread hyperventilating about Shondo instead of what she's talking about?

>> No.49510833

>>49510497
So she is dense and obtuse, no wonder her oshi was Rushia.

>> No.49510867

She's the only member who can't speak engrishu

>> No.49510931

>>49509438
Is she actually a follower of rumina? and if so for how long?

>> No.49510993

>>49510659
>the clique
>literally everyone else

>> No.49511082

>>49510931
Rushia has been her oshi since late 2019 or early 2020

>> No.49511105

>>49507440
>a fucking menhera
well yeah, good luck trying to reason with her

>> No.49511214

>>49507440
who? that is not nazuna she doesn't even speak english

>> No.49512031

>>49508451
Just wait two months for Nazuna's contract to run out

>> No.49512042

>>49510931
That's interesting that she may unironically lurk/post on rumina, since up to this point there has literally been no mention of this possible brewing tension on Twitter. On the rumina thread, there have been on and off discussions about Nazuna's future with Vshojo, and with Henya's debut, that only seems to complicate things further.

I was the anon who recently posited some questions concerning whether she's initiating a mini protest of Vshojo by indirectly snubbing Henya.
>>49416719

I'm hoping for the best that I (or Shondo) are just overreading things, but there are signs that, on the surface, just don't look optimistic. idk. I'll guess we'll see what happens in the coming days.

>> No.49512121

>>49507440
As Kson said there isn't really a con to joining Vshojo. They'll deal with whatever management stuff and she can just be with her chat like she wants. Do you think kson doesn't invite her?
>>49507702
>she should just leave
What reason does she have to leave, though? If the problem is being alone that isn't going to be fixed. If she wants collabs with JP vtubers nothing in vshojo is stopping her.
>>49508832
>joins corpo
Vshojo is far less corpo than most other vtuber corpos. They seem more like an agency but not completely. You aren't unpersoned if contracts break through.

>> No.49512187

>>49512121
>doesn't invite her
She literally said that she was invited 6min into the collab

>> No.49512207

>>49512042
she probably does lurk るみな
...just like Mikeneko does, who has literally mentioned るみな by name in order to praise it, and thus made it so the entire rest of the fanbase lurks there too
God please kill me

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>>49509966
I don't follow Vshojo or Kson. What did she do? I can't imagine there's much left that she hasn't done. Did she just tell her fans to fuck off? Vshojo fans are mostly cucks so if something happened it would likely have to be bad.

>> No.49512272

>>49510290
Even as a fan of hers, you gotta accept that she's not coming back. It would look really bad for cover, and even if she did she wouldn't be the same Rushia.
t. Fandead since 2019

>> No.49512415

>>49507440
Well in rushias defence Kson only dragged her along to try and take shots at hololive and blow smoke up Vshojos ass. Poor rushia was just a tool to wave around on a flag saying "we have rushia now lol" Vshojo don't give a rats ass about her after the fact.
She's isolated, being the only full jp only streamer in the JP branch which is laughable. Kson may as well be an En member and now pikamee further sedimates rushia being this weird oddity that can't talk to everyone in big collabs because she doesn't fit in.
She was used, reclined and is now stuck in her position, she can't afford to go indie and lose what little backing they're giving her. She can't go corpo again after her incident, it's limbo for Vtubing.
I feel bad for her, I really do because Vshojo are a bunch of cunts but she brought it on herself by using her work account to dm Ecelebs for private gaming sessions so she's stuck sith her circumstances.

>> No.49512452

>literally 2 stream after debut
>starts concern/dramafagging
Holy shit shut the fuck up let her breathe she already said multiple times she wants to collab with nazuna, if anything it's nazuna that's ignoring her not even following her on socials.
Also what's up with this vtuber commenting on every ficking thing vahojo does lately? Nobody cares just stfu

>> No.49512554

>>49512207
Did she really kek. Someone post clip

>> No.49512687

>>49512207
friendly reminder that you can't post michael scott/angel archives here on this board since she egosa's here constantly and will most likely report it once she sees it

>> No.49513321

>>49511214
shondo/fallenshadow

>> No.49513403

>>49512452
Yet here you are commenting on something, curious

>> No.49513474

>>49509966
I meant losing as in "You're losing me" like you just did with your post

>> No.49513482

>>49512042
Regarding not responding to henya's response, I'm willing to give to nazuna benefit of the doubt because she hasn't touched twitter since that tweet and that she's half retarded.

>> No.49513829

>>49512687
>scott/angel
wat

>> No.49513841

>>49512042
idk why she's being so tense, just wait for Mirai Akari's inevitable debut and she'll have another JP only girl to play with

>> No.49513886

>>49513841
she's been asking for like a year

>> No.49514037

>>49507440
Completely unnecessary drama? That's my dear wife whom I love very much.

>> No.49514173

>>49512121
Has anyone in vshojo broken their contracts? No so you don’t know what you’re talking about.

>> No.49514436

>>49512187
That was rhetorical question. Kson is very friendly. But thanks for the confirmation.
>>49514173
It would be beyond retarded to have a clause that says they own their IP but if they break your contract they transfer ownership of it to vshojo. Kson would almost certainly not be there if that was the case.

>> No.49514466

>>49512121
>VsHoJO iS FaR LeSs CoRPoo~

Holy flying fuck of a cope. When you STUPID SIMPS will realize that the "We are just bunch of friends!" and "Talent freedom teehee~" talk is just shitty advertisement.
It's a corpo as every other. We already know that they have management and contracts and are struggling with budget. You can stop kissing their asses, none of them care about your tier 3 subscriptions.

>> No.49514655

>>49514466
>We already know that they have management and contracts
The anon literally just said that they are "less" corporate than others. He didn't say that they weren't at all

>> No.49514853

>>49509438
>her oshi
That explains a lot

>> No.49514890

>>49514466
t. someone who doesn't know what an agency is.

>> No.49514894

Mikeneko got scammed into vshojo, of course she hates it.

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>>49507440
>Kson poaches Pikamee
>accidentally makes Nazuna have another menhera attack and potentially makes her consider leaving just like half of the EN side
Oh no!

>> No.49515650

God, imagine if Nazuna goes after Shondo and they have a menhera face-off

>> No.49515907

>>49514894
My favorite part was her doing the mental breakdown stream after the 3 left so that she can shill her fanbox
She doesnt give a shit about vshojo

>> No.49516489

>>49507892
Pretty difficult to do, considering the person rambling also suffers from mental illness.

>> No.49516771

Mike is being a menhera because pikamee is a high voiced loli and unlike mike she can actually speak English and maintain her audience. It is not a mystery why she feels theatened by pikamee’s enters into vshojo. Hopefully Keon can bring her bath to earth but I’m not holding my breath.

>> No.49516856

>>49516771
Pikamee/Henya is actually an Ojisan in a loli body like Tanya Degurechaff

>> No.49516952

>>49515907
>Mental breakdown
That happened only in your head since you don't watch streams nor know japanese

>> No.49516981

>>49507892
I can save her.

>> No.49517170

>>49507440
>streaming over it
so vtubers do think about these things...

>> No.49517428

>>49507440
I don't see why she should care about a company that took a year to add an english focused v tuber to their jp branch. it now has three members

>> No.49517515

>>49517170
Just /here/ pickme panderers.

>> No.49517582

>>49512415
>Kson may as well be an En member
She speaks japanese at least 90% of the time you fucking retarded tourist.
The truth is the menhera is isolating herself by choice just like she did in Hololive where she only had around 2 friends at most, when she should use the new hires as a growth opportunity. But no, the menhera will now view the new hires as her enemies and blame them for her own shitty numbers.

>> No.49518095

>>49517582
So basically the Rushia experience again.

>> No.49518317

>>49508340
NTA but i've been on a shondo binge for the past two weeks and I sort of agree, I wouldn't say she explicitly panders to here... but the way she talks and the things she says makes it pretty damn obvious that she is totally /here/

>> No.49519013

>>49508631
Vshojo (not jp) doesn't work either. I'll said it again, it's not a viable buisness strategy at all.

>> No.49519293

>>49507440
love her love her love her always have always will

>> No.49519715

>>49517582
>But no, the menhera will now view the new hires as her enemies and blame them for her own shitty numbers.
so maybe that's why she had a beef with delu? she doesn't want her ex-holo watchers watch another ex-holo.

>> No.49519872

>>49508832
Joins a corpo that's effectively just a talent management agency and where it's members mostly have separate fanbases and do their own shit with no managerial oversight. Presumably for a nice signing bonus and the ability to farm out backend merch shit to someone else. She's always been a solo streamer and it seems that's what she prefers.

>> No.49520086

>>49519013
Vshojoo doesn't work because whoever manages this shit doesn't even try.

>> No.49520089

>>49507440
this is some indie trying to leech clout not nazuna op

>> No.49520154

>>49508549
Is she really not allowed to stream on YouTube as Nazuna?

>> No.49520294

>>49508949
She will finally get the rice...

>> No.49520298

>>49519013
Most tech-adjacent companies don't follow viable business strategies, and will never post any profit.
They exist by taking VC money and grants before either selling off enough that they don't have to care and eventually dissolving into a bigger company or declaring bankruptcy and starting again.
If you want an example, look at Machinima's trajectory.

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>>49507440
>unironically reading or listening to anything this lying pickme says

>> No.49520461

>>49507728
her chair

>> No.49520487

>>49519715
youse are schizo lmao
Also defending yourself from delu's false accusations isn't beef anon

>> No.49520609

>>49507440
>another random person tweets as a source for the thread's image
Okay.

>> No.49520669

I really hope Nazuna reaches out more.
She doesn't need to suffer alone.

>> No.49520704

>>49520154
Isnt that a twitch partner issue not vshojo side

>> No.49521473

>>49520669
maybe v shojo should do something with their jp branch but then they did fake auditions and just hire the autistic reindeer

>> No.49521778

>>49520669
Kson has been trying to set up collabs with her but her fans keep having meltdowns whenever she accepts.

It's quite tragic

>> No.49521842

>>49521778
Maybe Kson should stop inviting males to those collabs. For someone who claims to care about freedom she really doesn't respect Nazuna's freedom to cultivate a certain image.

>> No.49521910

>>49520487
mike said that her source is narukami, the same person who said that it's all bullshit. how can I believe her shit?
she can just make up with delu and said that it's all a misunderstanding, but for some reason she doesn't.

>> No.49521974

Come back home where you belong Rutyan... You should have never listened to that whore Kson..

>> No.49521977

>>49521910
because narukami said something that gives his "bullshit" credibility. He's deflecting now to not get in trouble with the blue dorito.

>> No.49522034

>>49521977
>delta
>blue dorito
you ain't the brightest crayon in the shed....

>> No.49522248

>>49522034
mikeneko did not trust delta nor wanted it to go public precisely because the drama goes back to blue dorito days and involves other talents
narukami already lost a court case against them. hes not gonna fuck around with them again

>> No.49522303

>>49521977
Narukami was just spouting bullshit, even Yasuyuki sensei confirmed that it was bullshit.
But for some reason Mike believed him that said bullshit was made by someone else.
>>49522248
>mikeneko did not trust delta
>trust narukami instead
Menhera retard

>> No.49522414

>>49522303
>Narukami was just spouting bullshit, even Yasuyuki sensei confirmed that it was bullshit.
it's not the rumor you are thinking of
>trust narukami instead
>Menhera retard
1+1=2 is still true even narukami says it.. he mentioned things that gave it undisputable credibility

>> No.49522570

>>49507440
Didn't some of no-longershoujo's claim nobody in that group is interested in talking to each other and doing collabs? I mean, most women I know don't talk to other people, unless you call them yourself.

>> No.49522573

She's not "distancing herself" or "having a mental episode". She looked at the invited people, saw it's 6 people who speak English, and decided not to butt in and not understand a word or be able to participate in any conversation for hours. It would be very awkward. She already tried it once.

>> No.49522580

>>49521910
I wouldn't be quick to forgive the person who provoked a torch & pitchfork mob against me for no reason, either.

>> No.49522587

>>49508549
The Mikeneko model is better than Nazuna anyway desu

>> No.49522601

>>49522414
>it's not the rumor you are thinking of
I know. It's the pink hair thing.
>1+1=2 is still true even narukami says it
ok sure. I'll believe him. In his latest update about this matter, he said that mike was full of shit and delu is the victim. So, I'll believe that too.

>> No.49522665

>>49522601
Don't believe dramatubers. Narukami is an entity of hate, spreading misery for his own benefit. Mike's mission is to spread love throughout the world to all her fans.

>> No.49523011

>>49522665
Never forget the time Mito posted random bullshit on 5ch and got Narukami to bite the bait and run with it as fact.

>> No.49523152

>>49522580
>for no reason
lol.
she thought that spouting shit behind a non-archived paywalled content is safe.
>>49522665
I don't, but that other anon does.
I'm just showing him the paradox.
Mike also shouldn't have believed him in the first place.

>> No.49523900

>>49507440
coco & ru-tan are friends don't worry I'm sure they still are close .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBh2zOaaZqM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7d20-_9v8Y

>> No.49523950

>>49507440
There are signs that Nazuna will leave vshojo as soon as possible anyways.

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>>49523900
too bad coco loves money more than friends

>> No.49524112

I love my wife mikeneko. Today and forever and ever. And ever ever.

>> No.49524187

>>49524076
Get up to date.
Kanata has outgrew Coco so much it's embarrassing (for kson). Kanata is the Queen of Purity now. She attained the perfect idol image.

>> No.49524222

>>49524076
Imagine being Henya and seeing the person that baited you into a shit company saying that the moment she gets a better offer she is bailing.

>> No.49524307

>>49524187
nono i know kanata is doing way better, im very happy for the tenshi, but that doesnt take from the fact that coco chose "more %" over sticking with the people she said are her friends... i hope she seethed a lot when the fiscal year income of hololive was released, all the money she could have made.

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>>49507813
>>49508161
Shondo and Nazuna are both peak menhera idols! It's an important role! I love them!

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>>49508832
People don't always know what they really want or--worse--need until the hole's already been dug. I'm hardly the most loyal watcher of Kson or Nazuna but both kinda irradiate "I might've made a bad choice" vibes.
These ladies may not in fact be very competent businessmen. They may not put due care into making decisions with lasting complications, they may not have paid close attention to contracts they signed. They may have even made some choices driven by emotions at a time of weakness, like women. And it's honestly better that way, "shrewd businesswoman idol" would be a hell of a niche. That's why they need a good and supportive staff to guide them. With Mikeneko in particular, I really feel she just wanted a place to belong, the thing that probably drove her to Hololive in the first place.

>> No.49525023

>>49524307
monkey fanfiction is so bizarre to read

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>>49524307
or instead of it being about money, they're all just flying by the seat of their pants

>> No.49525689

>>49524307
>> " If I choose money, I would stay in Hololive"

Coco loves Hololive anon but chinks random harrassment her friends and sponserships.

She must die for end cycle of hatred

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>>49524307
This pic will end your rrat

>> No.49525903

>>49512121
>There are no cons to joining VShojo
>3 people get up and leave

>> No.49526012

>>49525736
I know I'm weird for being one of 4chan's few true optimists--I've outgrown our signature nihilistic morass as I've gotten older--but I truly believe this. It's why one of my hopes for Hololive's greater story arc is the dragon returning triumphant, the necromancer getting a second chance... and considering Henya joined VShojo, I guess I may as well throw her into the pot as well, but that's not necessary to my vision.

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>VShojo
Thought you guys would've learn after the first time but history sure loves to repeat itself.

>> No.49526148

>>49526012
What if Hololive collab with VshojoJP?

>> No.49526394

>>49526148
Would be a nice nostalgia bait, but it's kinda a stretch to imagine. The Ironmouse-Kiara thing was already unexpected for me. Hololive barely collabs with Holostars or Nijisanji, let alone a group that is more reincarnated Hololive than not. To be honest, I'd say even the 2 getting new Cover contracts seems more likely.
It wouldn't be the same anyways, that's not a story with any greatness to it. It minimizes the seriousness of their departure into mere drama, it would be like building up to the climax only for the author to develop dementia and forget what was in the previous chapter. Unprofessional, to say the least

>> No.49526437

>>49526012
You've grown so older you've gained alzheimer. There is no way in hell they are returning.

>> No.49526472

>>49507440
I don't really hate shondo or anything but this is still just the ramblings of a literal schizo

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>>49526437
I didn't say they will, ADHD zoomie
>hopes
It's what I want to happen, not what will. Stop reading so fast you skip words

>> No.49526509

Nazuna shouldn't have ever existed.
I will never forgive kson for roping her into joining that shitty swamp. It's not a place for a girl like her. Everyone there is openly anti-GFE, it's all about acting like degenerate Twitch sluts and streaming with dudes, eceleb circles or even your outright public bfs.
The audience is a bunch of frog spamming twitch meme lords who probably come here to spam "incel" at others too.

>> No.49526766

>>49526509
>>Kson
>> Anti GFE

What the fuck are you drinking?

>> No.49526839

>>49524409
>>49524951
>>49525173
>>49526478
Avatarfagging nigger

>> No.49526910

>>49526766
Watch her menhera speech from a while ago about """toxic weebs"""

>> No.49526947

>>49526478
>>49525173
>>49524951
>>49524409
nice reaction images buddy

>> No.49526998

>>49526910
i did
you evidently did not

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>>49526947
thanks!

>> No.49527108

>>49507440
I though shondo likes her fans and won't betray them? Why is she feeling sorry for Rushia?

>> No.49527161

>>49507440
>;v;
>;---;
Why people who use these emotes are always the most obnoxious cunts? It just makes me want to break their skull in with a crowbar.

>> No.49527266

>>49527108
the fact someone would sympathize with one of their biggest inspirations is the least surprising thing on Earth

>> No.49527341

>>49527266
Their biggest inspiration just cucked all of her fans im the biggest vtuber drama of 2022. She can still ve sorry for that when her whole shtick is her intense love for her fans?

>> No.49527415

>>49527341
You're a retard and don't know anything about Rushia, she even torpedo'd her own career to prove that she didn't betray her fans

>> No.49527459

>>49510665
Look at the CCV change between her old identity and her new one.

>> No.49527489

>>49527415
She chased after mafu2 and even stayed together in the same place. Not to mention playing games together and calling each other sweetly. Which part od that isn't betraying her fans?

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>>49527415
Is there a QRD on this? I'm a newfag to /vt/, I never really paid attention to drama since the only agency I watched was Hololive and it's pretty rare. All I know is something something boyfriend

>> No.49527653

>>49526910
Jesus
She means freaks who want wars among their fan and she was right about it.

>> No.49527675 [DELETED] 

>>49527547
>discord yab
>bf dumps her
>threaten suicide
>give secret holo intel to dramatuber so not all her fans leave her
>graduates
>go indie
>join vshojo

>> No.49527701

>>49527415
That was just her trying to damage control and she didn't prove shit beyond her being a liar. She went out to dinner with MAfu and talked to him/played games with him regularly, despite her claims of being unable to speak with men, and even confessed to him (as per mafu's own words) which mafu didn't reciprocate.
I can't believe cucks are still coping this hard.

>> No.49527708

Why is she like thid? Isn’t it basic knowledge that Nazuna is completely English dekinai? It should be easy enough to put two and two together and see why she didn’t join in on the stream.

>> No.49527897

>>49527675
>>>give secret holo intel to dramatuber so not all her fans leave her

Wrong, she just show her manager name and others in discord which she leaked to KRKR. She didn't doxx anyone.

>graduates
>go indie
>join vshojo

Wrong
>> Termination
>> PNGtuber and camtuber
>> join VshojoJP
Now

>> No.49528023

>>49527701
>>despite her claims of being unable to speak with men.

......retard
Rushia never claim this. She can speak male and want to open sweet shop

>>and even confessed to him (as per mafu's own words)

MfMF need excuess or else his fujoshis will kill him instead

>> No.49528213

>>49528023
>Rushia never claim this. She can speak male and want to open sweet shop
She has literally said before that she is afraid of men, retarded newfag. Do your reps.
>MfMF need excuess or else his fujoshis will kill him instead
I see no reason to not believe him considering Rushia lied.

>> No.49528324

>>49528023
she did actually, she said she can't speak with men and that she is afraid of them, which is how she appeased her gachikois/unicorns and to reassure them she would never collab with a male, despite her "collabing" with a male off-stream plenty of times
just stop this pathetic damage control man, it's pathetic

>> No.49528588

>>49527547
>QRD
>I only watch Hololive
it was Hololive.
And you won't get any accurate info here lmao. People here still think they lived together or were dating when that was disproven in a day.

>> No.49528719

>>49528588
They weren't dating. They were just fuckbuddies.

>> No.49528998

>>49528588
It wasn't disaproven. Like literally it wasn't. It's all a lie. Like people literally need to believe Rushia just to prove that Rushia wasn't lying.

>> No.49529421

Cancer thread
Mikeneko has never done anything wrong and you will never change my mind, because you do not need to change the mind of someone who is right.
She was only ever friends with mfmf
Krkr got her sacked so he could profit off of the drama
There are no vods of her criticising Delu, and no reference to it on any website before Delu's false accusations, because she never said anything against her.

>> No.49529705

>>49529421
How is krkr still alive?
Are you guys not mad with him?

>> No.49530820

>>49529705
I have been plotting to kill him for over a year. The biggest hurdle is that he's in Japan and I'm in Australia.

>> No.49530901

>>49528998
Every single possible proof was debunked as just cherry picking similar popular objects in different times to make it sound that way the same way some antis manipulated twitter DMs (also proven false) to make it sound like she was sending private messages to fans.

>> No.49530970

>>49527701
He never said that, retard

>> No.49531097

>>49525903
Being able to leave with no downside (and maybe for a better deal at another agency), is considered a pro, anon. Unlike other corpos where they can't leave without giving up their entire IP and accounts related.

>> No.49533728 [DELETED] 

AND HERE WE GO AGAIN,ANOTHER RUSHIA DEFLECTION

>> No.49536135

>>49520704
Twitch partners have been allowed to stream on Youtube for almost a year now.

>> No.49536314

>>49527701
>and even confessed to him (as per mafu's own words)
Mafu never said this.
Put it this way: if he said this, his own fans would hate him even more. He said the opposite: that she didn't have feelings for him.
Only source I can think of with this "info" in it was a literal mistranslation of a clip.

>> No.49536510

>>49528213
>I see no reason to not believe him considering Rushia lied.
Except he literally never claimed that she confessed to him, so I don't know where this rrat is originating from

>> No.49536620

>>49528213
My nigga I see no reason to believe you considered you pulled the "Mafu said" shit out of thin air, he never said anything of the sort. Why are you trying to turn this thread into a Feb time loop?

>> No.49536776

>>49527701
>(as per mafu's own words)
You can at least learn Japanese and do reps before you try this shit anon. He never said any of that.

>> No.49536990

>>49514436
Kson is friendly lmao try approaching her to say hi to her and watch her call the police on you

>> No.49537065

>>49515028
So uh. Kson is the reason troons were attacked they used the harry Potter game as smoke and mirrors based kson. Might sub to her now.

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>>49507440
>Vshojo orbiter

>> No.49537615

Apparently henya tried to chat with her multiple times on Nazunas apex stream and got ignored

>> No.49537731

>>49537615
She tends to ignore chat when she's stressed out or while playing something like APEX, so she probably just didn't notice.

>> No.49537922

>>49537731
I mean, possibly, but she's so menhera it's hard to know whether it's accidental or deliberate.

>> No.49538935

>>49507440
She's next on the chopping block. Watch the vshoujo tranny army veterans from the pikame war attack her so she "graduates".

>> No.49540655

>>49510833
Kek

>> No.49540849

>>49507440
>>49507702
Rushia was primarily a loner even within hololive. If there's something she misses from those days, it's probably the live events - not the regular collabs

>> No.49540942

>>49507440
i still think it's hilarious that shondo's oshi is nazuna. she embodies everything that shondo claims to be against

>> No.49541025

>>49507702
She thrived doing concerts and sponsored events that required her to be a MC. Vshoujo does none of that.

>> No.49541061

>>49507440
if she is getting deprogrammed good for her, her fans are more than enough 2bh, is not like she actually needs a company.

>> No.49541901

>>49540942
The main prerequisites to being a fandead are being intense and somewhat delusional, which certainly describes shondo.

>> No.49542042

>>49540942
>she embodies everything that shondo claims to be against
Meaning...?

>> No.49542633

>>49507835
Mirai Akari 90% coming…. But idk if she will communicate more with Nazuna or just be with Kson and Hyona

>> No.49542855

>>49542633
Nazuna previously refused to participate in a kson x Mirai Akari collab she had initially planned on coming to.

>> No.49542878

>>49542855
The
>how to pick up men
collab? Yeah, I wonder why she avoided that stream.

>> No.49544043

>>49542878
It's because her fans go schizo over literally everything and she didn't want to take any chances. In fact, her self-isolation has become much worse after several incidents of her so-called fans going apeshit over collabs she participated in.

>> No.49544423

>>49544043
They only went schizo over 2 to my knowledge anon.

>> No.49544639

>>49540942
>she embodies everything that shondo claims to be against
only in your headcanon

>> No.49544821

>>49544043
>several collabs with kson
>collabs with tamaki
>no schizo freakout
hmmmmmmmm
almost like her fans hold her to her own standards

>> No.49545009

>>49544043
interesting how the only collabs anyone has ever gone apeshit over are ones she's promised not to do
interesting how that works
interesting

>> No.49545041

>>49544821
>>49545009
This is genuine anti behavior but you are too delusional to realize it

>> No.49545118

>>49545041
>trusting her and being hurt when she breaks her promises is "anti behavior"
ogey
glad she doesn't agree with you, 全肯定

>> No.49545273

>>49545118
Who knows what she thinks at this point? She's been completely been beaten to submission by the combination of dwindling numbers and her remaining so-called fans constantly harassing her over the most inane shit imaginable. You can't expect a genuine opinion out of her anymore. Even if she did tell you to fuck off, you'd call it a "manic episode" or her VShojo manager somehow MK-Ultraing her to hate you. You are a complete lost cause.

>> No.49545359

>>49545273
Actually, I know she despises people like you with a fiery passion because she told me.

>> No.49545420

>>49545273
No one is harassing her. She, and her JP cuck fanbase, literally come /here/ and run what we say through DeepL and get mad at it. There's at best a handful of people who complain on twitter when they're mad and they don't even direct it at her, she egosearches it or doesn't see it at all.

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>>49545420
>No one is harassing her.
Sure

>> No.49545723

>>49545273
do you even watch her? it's hard to believe someone could watch her and say such laughable shit as
>She's been completely been beaten to submission
and
>You can't expect a genuine opinion out of her anymore. Even if she did tell you to fuck off,
like, you have to not even watch her public streams to think that
or you're just intensely EOP
>>49545590
oh hey look a DM she got literal months ago from the autist who used to link her our thread
what of it?

>> No.49545775

>>49545590
also don't post her nonpublic shit to bait threads you stupid faggot

>> No.49545816

>>49545775
>noo you can't just post proof that directly contradicts our laughable claims about how we never harassed her

>> No.49545829

>>49545590
Your evidence is antis DMing her links to a 4chan thread they were actively shitting up 4 months ago? Okay, you're right. She has antis that are harassing her. Yourself, for instance.

>> No.49545877

>>49545816
>she begs her audience constantly not to share her private posts
>I'll do it anyway and that's helping her
ok, faggot

>> No.49545973

>>49545420
>No one is harassing her.
There's no such thing as a vtuber who doesnt get harassed

>> No.49546106

>>49545590
This is ancient history and literally everyone told this guy to fuck off.

>> No.49546408

>>49546106
He certainly wasn't the only person who was told to fuck off, yet they still fester in her fanbase

>> No.49546446

>>49521778
>her fans keep having meltdowns whenever she accepts
...Why?

>> No.49546574

>>49546446
Because the evil reddit dragon is trying to corrupt the sweet and innocent Mikeneko or something, like when she convinced her to join VShojo.

>> No.49546628

>>49526910
She specifically meant faggots like (You).
Understandable mistake.

>> No.49546736

>>49546408
who else did she tell to fuck off besides a literal random anti DMing her?
come on anon fess up

>> No.49546846

>>49545273
Her current opinions line up with what she said as Rushia for 2.5 years and as Mikeneko for 1.5 years pre-termination
You are the only imbecile who believes that the girl actually wants to reject everything she stood and stands for

>> No.49546948

It's incredibly amusing to me that an EOP who doesn't even watch her twitcasts has the audacity to speak for her and what she is like

>> No.49547044

>>49546574
Nazuna sure does love being in Vshojo currently, right?

>> No.49547160

>>49545041
日本語勉強しろ糖質すぎるきっしょ

>> No.49547189

>>49546948
What else would you expect from a self-harming attention whore?

>> No.49547312

>>49546948
The weirdest thing is I recognise this faggot's typing style.
He's a /vsj/fag and an anti-unicorn (because of course he is). Absolute schizo who has been mad at us for months
He simulatenously claims that she's desperate to keep unicorns around while also claiming that she only has about 5 or 10 schizo unicorns who are powerless. What can you do with these types of lunatics?

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>>49507440
why should she be with those creeps?

>> No.49547357

It's kind of amazing seeing some /vsj/ fag ignore Mikeneko absolutely loathing being in Vshojo to try accusing her fans of sabotage or some shit. Why the fuck do you think she's streaming for her fans as Mikeneko every day and only putting in her TALENT FREEDOM company mandated by contract minimum stream hours on Nazuna?

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>>49546574
I thought we were talking about her as Nazuna, not her as Mikeneko.
Why the fuck would people who willingly watch her VSHOJO streams under her VSHOJO persona throw melties over her... being in Vshojo collabs? I'd sort-of understand if we were talking about Mike-only viewers showing some weird schizo integrity, but Nazuna watchers outright OWE Kson for the content they're enjoying.

>> No.49547532

I don't know if you noticed, but the meltie is for her not joining Vshojo collabs and it's not coming from her fans.

>> No.49547539

I remember that I used to be afraid of this anti-Unicorn faggot being VShojo staff since he'd only start this arguments in /vsj/ (people in the thread repeatedly pointing out that staff had browsed it before)
Glad to see he's just off his meds.

>> No.49547559

>>49547312
>The weirdest thing is I recognise this faggot's typing style
Same
He leans on Ksons words too(as if those are the end-all-be-all in the first place) but he most definitely doesn't understand Japanese well enough to actually be justified in doing so
I'd rather not insult ksongumi but referring to him as one so frankly I'd rather just call him what he is; a massive thread-reading EOP faggot

>> No.49547677

>>49547532
"Her fans keep having meltdowns whenever she accepts" is the part I was asking about and implies the exact opposite.

>> No.49547723

>>49547189
>self-harming
I was referring to the faggot currently shitting up this thread on his anti-unicorn shitposting spree claiming that he knows best and that what Mike actually says is not how she feels while what he says about her is, not fallenshadow
at least fallenshadow gives a fuck about her oshi

>> No.49547742

I feel bad for Nazuna.
Seems like she took going from a 5vu to a 4vu the hardest

>> No.49547978

>>49547399
Nazuna and Mikeneko viewers are basically overlapping circles anon
Also, nobody complains about Vshojo collabs. People complain when Kson tried to push her into a collab with RPR, or talked to her about the Gartic Phone collab that had 2 guys in it that she later joined, and so on. The only time people got any amount of angry was when Kson planned on having her in a English learning stream, and that was because it was literally an entire stream discussing picking up guys. And even then, nobody said shit to her, it was just some mildly irritated anons worried about how far it'd go. She canceled for personal reasons, which the one faggot ITT would know if he actually listened to twitcasts.

>> No.49548195

>>49517582
>But no, the menhera will now view the new hires as her enemies and blame them for her own shitty numbers.
Does she actually?
Rumao.

>> No.49548288

>schizos have now deluded themselves into thinking that any distaste to their constant freakouts and tantrums come from one person
Seek therapy please

>> No.49548300

>>49547978
>Nazuna and Mikeneko viewers are basically overlapping circles anon
Sort of. A lot of Nazuna only fans (mostly EOPs) refuse to interact with Mikeneko in any way, which is rather annoying when they start making dumb takes about her without knowing anything about what she's actually said to her fans, considering about 70% of her streams are on Mikeneko.

>> No.49548338

>>49548288
>constant
lie more, faganon

>> No.49548359

>>49548288
You're probably one of those people who deny that Marineschizo exists.

>> No.49548461

>>49548288
When it's the same arguments, same prose and same terms being used in every anti post, coupled with the same disinformation? It's pretty obvious to realise it's a single poster.

>> No.49548557

>>49548461
The exact same "arguments and disinformation" that her entire "JP cuck fanbase" believes for some reason, right? Strange how that works

>> No.49548919

>>49548557
stop arguing from the popularity of the delusion, faganon, and cite some facts
also respond to more than one person at a time, you bad-faith sanctimonious piece of shit

>> No.49548972

>>49548557
The same JP cuck fanbase who had a massive breakdown when they realised that they were wrong about her.
And if you've been browsing 5ch recently, you'd realise that the pro-unicorn and pro-gachikoi side is actually beginning to grow. Part of the reason for this is that she's being more supportive of this side of her fanbase, so even the cuck side are taking notice
That is, the ones who haven't already oshihened to a different VTuber after she broke their image of her completely.

>> No.49549008

Reminder that the mikefags sneering at "EOPs" are themselves mostly N5s at best whose expertise includes barely being able to read kana and about two weeks of Anki. They literally beg "translatoranon" for quickly scribbled pastebins to figure out what she actually says in her Twitcasts. The image they have of Mikeneko is basically all imagined and filtered through the eyes of some other schizo.

>> No.49549129

>>49549008
Nice projection, faggot. TLanon has been gone for ages.

>> No.49549322

>>49549129
So now you're down to complete threadreading? No wonder things have gotten this bad

>> No.49549337

>>49549008
The funniest thing is that you don't even understand what it requires to be qualified as "N5 Japanese" and that your understanding of her seems to come entirely from thread reading.
I don't even know what you're gaining out of this. If anyone wants to know something about her, they'll either ask her fans or they'll be left ignorant. Some schizo like you isn't changing anyone's opinion.

>> No.49549409

>>49549337
>The funniest thing is that you don't even understand what it requires to be qualified as "N5 Japanese"
I'm sure you're very proud of your qualification but I don't think you're getting anything out of a Twitcast at that level, sorry

>> No.49549576

>>49549409
Where did I imply that I was N5? I was simply pointing out that you've been talking out of your ass for the entire thread.
Your entire understanding of her boils down to >this is what she thinks, even if she says and acts the exact opposite
which is literal schizo shit. Who are you, anyways? Some /vsj/fag I'm assuming. There's no chance you were a Rushia fan, and I doubt you even watch Mikeneko, so why are you so invested in arguing for the perspective of a Vtuber you don't watch?

>> No.49549619

>>49549409
I'm sure you're very convinced of the superiority of your position, but you're probably not even N5, and if you think the sum total of our Japanese comprehension rests in the vessel of one schizo, you're more uncoupled from reality than I thought.

>> No.49549690

>>49549322
Miles and miles above your salty EOP ass, stay seething. Nobody's sharing with you no matter how much you beg.

>> No.49550406

>>49549576
>>49549619
I have mad respect for keychads because they have to endure dedicated schizos like the one above and yet they remain strong.

Know that there are not only antischizos here, anons. Stand your ground and keep going.

>> No.49550544

Alright, which mikecord was this thread linked in? You can stop the raid now.

>> No.49550599

>>49550544
Why do you just add random words at the end of "Mike" and think this makes your sentences less retarded?
Why do you assume that people calling you out on obvious bullshit have to be part of some clandestine raid? It's just that anyone with two brain cells knows you're a retard with no real arguments

>> No.49550628

>>49550544
>mike thread on the 'log
>mike fans respond
>IEEEEEEEE, WERE GETTING RAIDED BY DISCORD
Faggot

>> No.49550664

>>49550599
>>49550628
Stop replying to posts twice.

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>>49550664
Faggot.

>> No.49550797

>>49550734
>you can literally see where the (You) is shoddily removed
Work harder on your Paint skills

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>>49550797
Faggot

>> No.49551329

>>49520298
Machinima made money for 2 decades retard

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>>49507440
pedoshadow aside, man, what is with women and complaining like a retarded child.
there are few solutions
>learn some English and stop bitching
>just collab with Kson and Henya, they now Japanese
>no one is forcing her to be "vshojo exclusive" just reach out to Japanese indies and collab
it's easy, but bitch do love complaining in the most annoying way, the passive aggressive one.

>> No.49552264

>>49507440
I mean... shondo...
kson, nazuna and henya all speak japanese
so its not like shes excluded, plus she has that weird translation thing

>> No.49554984

>>49507440
retardation...

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