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>> No.49498325

5 times a week at minimum. Most people work 8 hour days 5 times a week, these fucking lazy whores can't do 5 streams of maybe 3 hours each?

>> No.49498413
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49498413

How those projects going?

>> No.49498440

>stream at least 3 days a week
was the requirements

>> No.49498475

>>49498325
Let's start something reasonable, like once a week. Since some of them don't do that yet.

>> No.49498703

>>49498240
They probably do now with the whole new management and all.

Picrel is above the law, though. Management tells her anything and all she has to do is go "okay, I'll graduate and pop up at VShojo" and all Yagoo can do is hold the L.

>> No.49498749

just stop caring about gura
she was shit before, shes shit now, she will be shit in the future

>> No.49498881

>>49498703 (Me)
I mean, think about it. The fact that this bitch can stream 3 times a month and have no repercussions at all is probably a testament to how much merch and sponsor money her name and face alone bring in.

>> No.49499177

>>49498703
>>49498881
Why did they fire Rushia and banishment room Coco but let Gura do whatever the fuck despite bringing less money *AND* being more bratty?

>> No.49499221

>>49498240
Reminder that this job is not so difficult as to need breaks, especially considering that your working time is probably only a couple hours and a few hours more of production.

>> No.49499248

>>49498413
Her project dedicated to doing nothing is coming along great.

>> No.49499334

>>49498240
She's kiara powered now. So if you want to see her you have to listen to the chicken lady also. Best to just let her be a ghost.

>> No.49499337

>>49499177
Because one broke NDA which was legitimate grounds for firing them, and the other cost them the Chinese market but didn't actually break any rules in doing so.

>> No.49499478
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49499478

>>49498240

>> No.49499551

>>49499177
Simple.

Because Rushia and Coco both had replacements. Marine and Pekora have already filled the holes that they left behind. And, if those two start acting up, they still have Suisei to carry Hololive on her back.

The question is: if Gura leaves, who the fuck can fill the hole she leaves behind in EN? Fauna? Mumei? Mori? Not happening. She's genuinely irreplaceable in EN at the moment.

>> No.49499585

>>49499478
>videos tab instead of live tab
holy newfag retard

>> No.49499591

>>49498413
Single with suisei will drop @ connect the world

>> No.49499689

>>49498240
Hey a Gura seethe thread, it's been a while since i saw one
And it's still the same "people" somehow, guess they also miss the fucking r*dd*t shark

>> No.49499763

>>49499337
>Chinese market
>they infiltrate everything and mandate changes that interfere with free expression of ideas
Their money is not worth it, and the sooner they collapse the happier we'll be.

>> No.49499765
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49499765

Whatever happened to "Movie May"

>> No.49499816

>>49498240
2%

>> No.49499823

Gura literally streamed 2 days ago. The fags making these threads don't watch or even keep up with Gura anyway

>> No.49499864

>>49498240
Wasn't there already a rule that talents have to deliver content at least 3 times a week, whether its videos or streams. Gura can just ignore that rule anyway because she's Gura.

>> No.49499892

>>49499765
Deadbeat dad never watches their child when he's suppose to.

>> No.49500029

>>49499864
I could see that for newer talent, but many have already broken that rule before gura. Probably just need a good enough excuse and that's it.

>> No.49500181

>>49500029
Cover has a "self room" at their new studio. The well being of their talent is more important than number of streams.

>> No.49500375

>>49499551
The only purpose that Gura serves anymore is being the company mascot and keeping the chumbud cash flowing. The company can clearly function without her since they literally do function without her except for 2 or 3 days a month.

>> No.49500664

>>49500375
>they literally do function without her except for 2 or 3 days a month.
Not really, because she doesn't need to stream to sell merch and sponsorships. Her name *is* that big.

>> No.49500926

>>49498881
>! mean
>>>/reddit/

>> No.49500965

They should take 90% of all their ways of incomes for the next 6 months if they don't do any kind of interaction for more than 2 days + at least 2 streams per week. You will see how burnouts don't exist anymore, how all of them love using social media and how there are more collabs between the lazy fucks just to keep their income floating, is really that easy to make people "like" their works

>> No.49501260

>>49500375
>The company can clearly function without her
The implication that Cover couldn't survive without Gura is really retarded. It was retarded in 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, and it's still retarded now.

>> No.49501282

>>49500965
So basically just turn into nijisanji?

>> No.49501403
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49501403

Hololive girls don't have to stream if they don't want to. They're idols, not streamers.

>> No.49501525

>>49501282
No, because no one will actually sacrifice their millionaire salary over a fucking 1 hour stream 2 random days and some stupid tweets. Nijisanji does that for default

>> No.49501563

>>49499765
It is right there: may or may not

>> No.49501723

Double edged sword OP.
What if they forced them to stream, but they didn't feel like it, and that caused them to go more menhera and quit?
Or did shitty low quality streams and grew miserable.
I've seen it happen in other corpos.

>> No.49501996

You can't force zoomers to do anything. No matter how easy it may be. They will pull out the mental health card.

>> No.49502120

>>49498240
they should force talents to suck my dick at least once a week

>> No.49503004

>>49498703
Gura is not the only one with that kind of power.
Hell, she isn't even the only EN with that kind of power, not even looking at the JP talents.
Its Mori btw

>> No.49503477

>>49498240
>They really should force talents to stream at least once a week

get 1%

>> No.49503797

>>49502120
this post? me

>> No.49507664

>>49498240
Gura recently streamed. Not that it matters to the poster.
Gura is not in Nijisanji. Their rules don't apply here.
These shitpost threads just make me feel grateful that she is not in a black corpo. Gura has done worse than Zaion. But we see them as what they are, nothing burgers. Gura can openly say it's just not worth playing HL. Consistently dishes on games that she's sponsored with. Talks about mods on rhythm Games. Laughs when the black guy punches a white girl out. Says Fauna is the man, because she is the smartest. Consistently makes Twitter seethe with her loli shenanigans. The list goes on.
Follow Gura's life advice: "Stop giving a damn what others think. You are living for you, not for them."
"and buy a towel warmer."

>> No.49509990

>>49498240
I think they still have it in the application page, but they do say you need to provide at least 3 days of streaming a week or maybe it was a certain number of hours a week. Point is, whatever it was, it was laughably low and not that much at all and yet Gura does EVEN LESS than that. And she isn't the only one, Ayame is notorious for that too. Risu also fucks off for long periods of time and even some of the holostarsJP just vanish. The problem isn't the rule, it's the fact that Cover doesn't enforce it in any way at all so they keep ghosting and not streaming. Gura is just the most famous because of her big numbers, but a lot of others in the company just fuck off.

>> No.49515701

>>49498413
I always find that reply interesting, JPs could have projects going on in the background and it doesn't prevent them from streaming.

>> No.49515752

>>49499585
there is bot live stream LMAO!

>> No.49515785

>>49498240
they used too then EN happened and now we are here at this point

>> No.49516307

>>49509990
Contracts are renewed every two years. We don't know what is in their latest contract. Just shows that Gura is a shrewed business woman and able to get what she wants.

>> No.49516389

>>49516307
yeah i suspect they ease up on streaming requirements once youve completed your first year. But then it begs the question why Sana didnt ride it out a bit longer and then go ghost for that passive income

>> No.49516518

If you didn't turn up to work for two weeks straight you'd be fired. Period. The reasons don't matter.

>> No.49516789

>>49516389
Don't know about Sana. Maybe she does have real back problems, and doing idol work is out of the question. Plus many, even Coco, didn't know how good they had it with Hololive. It's the recent Nijisanji Ls that showed the huge contrast between corpos. As most, just assumed they were the same. Now considered a golden ticket.

Last words from Fauna before her vacation was saying how thankful she was in Hololive.

>> No.49516851

>>49516518
>If you didn't turn up to work for two weeks straight you'd be fired. Period. The reasons don't matter.
please stop relating your wage-slave jobs to content creators of the entertainment industry. Even though it does with Nijisanji.

>> No.49517057

>>49498240
if that gets some of them to graduate I'm happy

>> No.49519179

>>49498240
no but gura tummyhurt

>> No.49519462
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49519462

Gura is basically Hello Kitty, MyMelody or Snoopy. Just buy her goods because she is cute. No need for content.

>> No.49520678

>>49519462
Gura's dream is to get bought out by Sanrio.

>> No.49520792
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49520792

>>49501403
They aren't idols

Those whore will never be outside of Kiara and IRyS

>> No.49520911

>>49499823
That’s not good enough. We’re not going to stop calling her a lazy cunt just because she streamed once. Gura has to go at least a whole month with twelve streams total, with at least two streams each week (NOT including members’ streams) to be considered anything other than a lazy fuck.
At this point I’m not even convinced she can do that for the month before her graduation.

>> No.49520942

>>49498325
So in your mind when they aren't streaming they are literally doing nothing. All those covers they do should be recorded in a single day on the days they aren't streaming.

>> No.49520978

>>49516389
Sana crippled her momentum early and was a clear shitter. She probably had a lot less room to get away with things and was probably so unenthusiastic by the end she would have preferred streaming less.
Remember, all the time planning for streams could be used on doing art. She probably made enough from that that she didn’t care anymore.

>> No.49521066

>>49520942
That poster is a retard. Everyone who says streamers should be treated like normal workers is a retard. They get special treatment because those rules don’t apply. That’s all fine.
But to bring this back to Gura, there’s no fucking way she’s recording covers or doing anything other than not working whatsoever. There is plenty of legitimate off-stream work to be done, but we all know Gura isn’t doing that since she has some of the lowest output of non-stream content in the whole fucking branch.

>> No.49521572

>>49520942
JP members, especially the top ones, work similar hours to what >>49498325 suggested *and* they dish out projects regularly. Gura is not streaming and neither is she producing any projects.
>but she isn't/wasn't in Japan so she couldn't do everything she wanted
Exactly. What has she been doing during the months she wasn't in Japan? She spent every day for months "planning projects"? And when she was in Japan, she literally had no time to stream, despite other EN members not having that problem to the same degree? Give us a break, we're not retarded. We can all see she's become lazy and/or disinterested in streaming.
I was a member, and I still like Gura's content whenever she streams, but her inconsistency and laziness have made me disappointed in her and caused me to drop my membership. Other fans have been doing the same. At some point you should seek to get disillusioned with her antics.

>> No.49521926

I get the sentiment, but forcing someone to work in a creative or an entertainment field is always going to deliver a sub-par product. I'm a firm believer in that if a streamer is in a bad mood, depressed or doesn't feel like they can entertain, they absolutely shouldn't go live. A bad stream will alienate more viewers than no stream at all.

>> No.49521994

>>49521572
And guess what, spending time watching vtubers in 2023 is a one-way ticket to becoming a failed human being, chumbuds are the luckiest fanbase you just haven't realized that yet.

I just know you will come back here to seethe again after she releases those projects from the stockpile and reminds everyone why quality is all that matters. To hell with parasocial vtuber watchers, she doesn't owe you fuckers anything.

>> No.49522173

>>49521994
> I just know you will come back here to seethe again after she releases those projects from the stockpile and reminds everyone why quality is all that matters.
>To hell with parasocial vtuber watchers, she doesn’t owe you fuckers anything.
These two statements don’t make sense together. To believe Gura’s excuses, you have to be parasocial with her. You can’t believe her that she has a shitton of projects and not be parasocial. Any neutral observer would see all the stuff the other ENs have released and the single original song by Gura and conclude that those are vague excuses. Especially if they know that Gura started saying this shit after even reddit got fed up with her absences.

>> No.49522544

>HUR DUR, GUR NO STRIM
kys

>> No.49523714

>>49521994
>chumbuds are the lyckiest streamer fanbase because their streamer doesn't stream, tweet, make any sort of content and generally doesn't communicate with them
Uh-huh, I see, totally makes sense
>>49521994
>you will come back here to seethe again after she releases those projects
Quite the opposite, I'll likely enjoy her projects. As I said, I used to watch and like Gura, and I know if she puts in the effort for a project, she will produce at least something decent. I'm just disappointed in her behaviour the past year is all.
>from the stockpile
Dyrbi?
>A bad stream will alienate more viewers than no stream at all
Where tf did this even come from? Also this >>49522173

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>>49499823
No she fucking didn't retard. And don't tell me membership stream counts.

>> No.49524597

>>49498240
If you take one quick look at her channel, you'll see a very simple and obvious pattern:
>1. Gura gets permissions for a new game she wanted to play
>2. She streams it
I can only wonder if a fucking competent management who lets her play the things she wants would make her stream more. Like, maybe, that pizza game she mentioned more than once? Nah no way

>> No.49525854

>>49501723
She an adult working under a company. She should know that Cover would not take kindly if she decide to behave like this in their company. Stop treating her like a child.

>> No.49525900

>>49507664

>>49523839

>> No.49526058
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49526058

>>49498240
900 days since last stream

>> No.49526294

>>49525900
>>49523839
retard

>> No.49526333

>>49498240
Force the legendary EN pillar Gura to stream? Cover would beg her just to stay without doing anything.

>> No.49526534

>>49501403
The JP girls are idols who do idol things constantly and still manage to stream more than the EN girls who maybe do one concert a year.

>> No.49527346

I just wish I knew wtf she was doing all this time
I hope she really just has been busy with her idol dreams doing ??? whatever shit idols do recording things and singing practice or something idk
And not that she is burnt out.
And then the worst option that I really dont want is health issues

>> No.49527384

>>49498325
fpbp

>> No.49527392

>>49498440
they probably do stream but it's counted as zoom meetings with corporate

>> No.49529099

>>49498240
no

>> No.49529834

>>49498240
I feel like the reason Gura streamed so much in her first year is because she was contractually obligated to meet a quota. Now that we're over 2 years in, there's a good chance they renegotiated so she would stay. Doesn't make much sense otherwise why they're okay with so many lapses between streams.

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49532835

Old voice love

>> No.49534114

>>49498240
I'm doing what I can, when I can

>> No.49534156

>>49498240
And male collabs too.

>> No.49535316

>>49498240
Is she doing her membership streams? That's the only thing I can imagine worth caring about, membership obligations. Why would Cover ever bother to force her to stream? The whole raison d'etre of the business model is cross-promotion and mixing of communities. I have a friend who isn't interested in any otaku shit (unless you count gun otaku). No anime, certainly no vtubers. Gura is the ONLY vtuber he has ever shown an interest in and even then he doesn't really respect the spirit of vtubers in that he still considers her Senzawa first. Yet when Gura streams slowed down, he started watching Calli. Hololive lives rent free in everyone's heads, one mem takes a break another retains that audience. If some people can't stand their one true love not being live every hour of every day on demand, that's their problem.

>> No.49535482

>>49498240
i don't think she especially wants to graduate, but she would definitely rather graduate than stream on any kind of predictable schedule

>> No.49535581

>>49498240
At this point I definitely agree, I don't mind sacrificing any streamer or any fan base to achieve this, do you fucking job or at least address why you can't properly,

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49535878

Even if they did streamed more, none of you would watch them so why should it matter? All you losers ever do is complain about every HoloEN girls doing this or that or not doing this or that enough. I'm surprised there isn't a dedicated HoloEN hate thread yet.

>> No.49536845

>>49498413
Awesome! She just contributed 10 whole words to the hit new song UMISEA no SACHIHAPPY!

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49537480

>>49498240
EN Holo- and Nijiwhores will never put in effort. Stop enabling this behavior. 5 days of streaming at least 3 hours should be the bare minimum.

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>>49525854
He's treating her how Cover already treats her, She's been refusing to stream for almost a year at this point, If cover hasn't done anything yet they'll probably never do anything.

>> No.49538764

>>49526534
That more of a fault of management than them though, imo. EN management is some of the worst I've ever seen.

>> No.49539034

>>49535581
>do you fucking job or at least address why you can't properly,
Gura is employed by Cover, not by you. You need to remind yourself of that.
>>49521572
>And when she was in Japan, she literally had no time to stream, despite other EN members not having that problem to the same degree?
Easy to tell who did not buy HoloFes tickets, and falsely claim that they are her fan. Name the Holos that had as many performances as her. Her 'Meru Meru Fire' was arguably the most cheered performance..the crowd was hyped. It was Gura's idea to add the pyrotechnics and Cover obliged. Gura didn't disappoint and showed she still is a main attraction. I'm sure Yagoo was proud of the shork putting that much effort into the Fes, as much as the true chumbuds that actually watched her. Silly to put value of some streams over the paid event such as HoloFes.
The delayed 3D showcase for HoloEN wasn't hyped as it should be, since they've been using their models for a while now. Then Gura comes out with #GuraTV....while choosing the worst timeslot of the branch and still gets over a million well-deserved views.

Let's face it. Call it mascot or whatever, but Gura has hit Star status. Numbers don't show it well, but Gura is not only popular in EN, she is popular in all the branches. She's doing what Yagoo wants, pushing his Idol dream. Using her own money and time in doing so. It's optional and she's doing it on her own free will.
Why is it only Gura with 3D Lives in HoloEN? And she did two...while Niji cancels theirs because of 'covid'. Gura not doing her job? Yagoo disagrees. He encourages talents to re-invest in themselves. Otherwise, Cover would just be another Niji.

>> No.49539184

>>49503004
Mori uses work as a shield from her mental issues, these two will never be comparable

>> No.49539457

>>49535878
>I'm surprised there isn't a dedicated HoloEN hate thread yet.
it's called /#/

>> No.49539542

>>49539034
>Name the Holos that had as many performances as her.
Mori and Kiara, the leaders in stream hours for EN

>> No.49539805

>>49515701
>EN
Most of their time is spent streaming, maybe they commission some art here and there, prepare backgrounds, "work" on songs."
Have trouble keeping up with streaming.
>JP
Stream, dance practice, goes to the office, records, does press, some do radio shows, hang out with each other.
Do not stream unless on vacation or actually ill.
What the fuck?

>> No.49541746

>>49498240


schrodingers hololive

>> No.49543258

>>49498240
You haven't given up on Gura yet? lol

>> No.49544302

penis

>> No.49544667

>>49498240
If a vtuber (or any form of entertainment) doesn't fit your consumption habits, find other things that do. There's an endless supply if you look. Whining about something when you have no power to change it is a poor use of your resources.

For example, instead of arguing that someone should be forced to stream, you can find someone who streams everyday voluntarily. Or enjoy multiple streamers who combined output a satisfying quantity and quality of content for you.

Also, with vtubers (and many other kinds of entertainers), more attention usually means more success, so threads like these are most often counterproductive.

>> No.49545187

>>49544667
laziness is more of a motivation killer than hard work

>> No.49545408

>>49544667
Vtubers aren't all the same. He just wants more Gura, he doesn't want more from just anyone.

>> No.49545456

So this pretty much confirms the pregnancy/bf rrats right? No one is that busy

>> No.49545493

>>49539805
Classic Western women laziness vs hard working Japanese

>> No.49545645

>>49539805
>>49545493
explain ayame's weird hiatuses not defending gura, just curious

>> No.49545707

>>49498240
I don't know about you, but I would prefer Gura not to graduate.

>> No.49545839

>>49516789
I think with Sauna it was just her realizing she didn’t like streaming very much and wanted to focus on her art job.

>> No.49546654

>>49498240
I think she oshi no ko'd the fucking chumbuds. Giving birth is the only logical shit for any woman to be away from work for this long.

>> No.49546712

>>49545645
>what about this outlier though?
who cares, his point still stands and you know it

>> No.49546822

>>49546712
not saying otherwise, just asking for explanation, why so defensive?

>> No.49546976

>>49545645
The only justification for her is that she is good if she actually tries, like she was one of the better gamers in Holos, arguably even better than Aqua unless its Apex.

>> No.49547719

>>49545645
There's always exceptions to the rule like Mori/Kiara and Ayame

>> No.49550846

>>49498240
Just move on. There are plenty other chubas that stream more than just a couple times a week but has no numbers.

It's like a bunch of bored housewives that keep "complaining" about their deadbeat, but rich aka has numbers, chuuba.

>> No.49550929

>>49498240
Dude, she literally invented vtubing. Cut her some slack.

>> No.49553979

>>49500375
>2 or 3 days a month
Wow she's really upping her game!!

>> No.49555329

>>49520792
>>49526534
>idols
They're all too yabai

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