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4905057 No.4905057 [Reply] [Original]

i am tired of corpo choking poor talents - there are no variety in games or content - 80% of the time it's apex, minecraft or fucking mario cart. Especially true for the EN and ID.

Give me my fucking MGR:R wave, give me some Worms for good collab, or Mordhau for the memes, give me fucking Witcher (glory to Ame), give Spec Ops: The Line, give Darkest Dungeon, or whatever, just give more fucking different games which are good for streaming and have lots of moments to react to, not that apexminecraftmario kindergarten bullshit, hololive main audience are 30 yo virgins not fucking kids i bet this is one of the reasons the dragon flied away aaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

>> No.4905279
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4905279

>>4905057
anon... just forget about Capcom games

>> No.4905462

How much of it is their own choice? Korone plays a lot of different games

>> No.4905544

>>4905057
Why are there even tied to permissions while anyone on Twitch can stream whatever they want all the time?

>> No.4905627

>>4905544
Because no (japanese) company will bother to sue an individual, while they might think it's worth to sue a company

>> No.4905646

>>4905057
It's mostly their own choice anon

>> No.4905749

Still upset they took Muse Dash from Gura. She was so good at that game.

>> No.4905757

>>4905057
You don't know what you ask for anon. Most of them can't play anything but kusoge. Watching Pegora playing MGS and Gura playing DMC was painful.

>> No.4905792

>>4905057
>>4905544
When you're independent, it's not so much that you're allowed to stream whatever you want, as it is that nobody's going to bother stopping you.

Cover is a company. It would be incredibly easy for e.g. Capcom to bring Cover to court over monetizing Capcom content without Capcom's consent. That's also why none of them use emulators or romhacks for old games, because Nintendo would absolutely fuck their shit up.

>> No.4905941

>>4905462
Korone plays ancient games nobody is going to bother holding permission back for

>> No.4905984

Mio was one strike away from being forcibly graduated by YT, and even if she came back outside of Cover, would have technically been violating YT rules as well.
The only reason other streamers don't get struck as much is because much fewer people are obsessed with wanting them to fail.

>> No.4906004

>>4905757
I want Worms Armageddon collab, it is going to be so full of memery

>> No.4906025

>>4905544
The rules are different in Japan then in the US, in Japan you need corporate permission to stream games

>> No.4906320

>>4905544
Having another company profiting off your IP is a bigger issue than some guy in his mom's attic playing it for donations.

>> No.4906520

>>4905057
>MGR
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Q8f1rRiLOWw
https://youtube.com/watch?v=s8HOrjDqUVQ
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pKtDGfLxjhQ

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1d2KuGf9SKYpBjO63_5fabkD-7m2sJKm

your fault for falling for black company lmao

>> No.4906659

>>4905057
I don't think you understand. Cover's not in control of the permissions. That's why they're permissions.

>> No.4906727
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4906727

Do you want Mio to suffer again?

>> No.4906885

>>4905984
>>4906727
what happened with Mio?

>> No.4906998

>>4906885
anon...

>> No.4907059

>>4905057
Permissions for western games are easily obtainable. Their management is just this incompetent

>> No.4907069

>>4906885
Guess who got hit by purge the worst
(minus Subaru who lost like 90% of her channel)

>> No.4907071

>>4906885
Capcom striked two of her Ghost Trick videos.
Thing is, this wasn't automated because it happened some time after they were up. So it likely wasn't by Capcom of their own initiative. Someone deliberately reported it. So Cover has to assume that there are people out there who have it in their own interests to look up anything that could be a copyright violation on their channels, and have enough numbers and write sufficiently persuasively to induce corporations to take action "just in case".
When you're faced with that, you can't just sit back and pray it doesn't happen to you. The one to three months Youtube wouldn't allow her to stream because of that doesn't even factor into it. It is extremely rare to restore a channel after it has been striked off YT. It's literally permadeath staring Mio in the face.

>> No.4907210

>>4907071
https://www.bengo4.com/c_23/n_11560/

Capcom has admitted that they targetted Hololive/Cover because they want companies to go through them first

>> No.4907318

>>4907210
>>4907071
>>4907059

What about western games? They are not so copyright nazi, most of the time. ESPECIALLY indies (that papers, please wave was fucking good)

>> No.4907326

>>4907069
>>4907071
shit, poor mio mama. thanks for the story anon,
I'll give her a sub.

>> No.4907341

>>4907210
Yes, of course they filed the claim (that's how it works), but I doubt they were themselves actively scanning every single channel for videos or there would have been a lot of other takedowns from other streamers reported before, during and after it. Someone snitched and Capcom saw it and thought it would be profitable to pursue.

>> No.4907360

>>4905057
>he thinks they play APEX because of permissions

>> No.4907503

>>4907360
I can get apex, but... Miifuckingtopia? Really? They think their audience is, like, 5 yo?

>> No.4907539

>>4905749
It's a no punishment rhythm game, it doesn't take a lot to be good at it.

>> No.4907572

>>4907503
>character editor: the game
literally the most entertaining shit in the world for women

>> No.4907575

>>4905627

That shit dont explain why they arent playing more western games, like when pekora streamed mordhau

>> No.4907713

>>4907318
Cover doesn't have enough people that understand the Western market to be confident that companies wouldn't go schizo on them, even though it's common sense to us. Nearly every important job opening they have requires you to at least be living in Tokyo and be able to show up to their office. After shit like that modder raging at the Nijis for using the translation mod he made freely available, the MikoMarine doujin bullshit, and now recently Holobass sperging out over something he explicitly gave rights to, they're even more wary of having something that could blow up their faces even if it doesn't make sense. Kamikaze idiots can still cause damage.

>> No.4907715

>>4907318
They just went full no fun allowed after Capcom instead of trying to feel out individual companies, there's even one that gave them permissions then the stream got hit anyway because of the music. I think Halo is in purgatory for the same reason even though they have blanket microsoft exclusive rights

>> No.4907729

>>4907318
>>4907575
The damage from the copyright armageddon was already done. Antis have demonstrated time and again that they will pounce on anything that can produce drama for a talent as >>4907071 and >>4907341 alluded to.
The talents' managers basically have to act like they're stepping on eggshells for any sort of content, even streaming indie western games made by literal whos.
Management's hands are tied because it really can be just something as innocent as playing some random itch.io game for an anti shitstorm to happen, and they end up looking more incompetent and powerless than they already are.
(Not to say they aren't incompetent, there's enough examples of that.)

>> No.4907730

>>4907575
They need explicit permission to stream things, apparently the blanket permissioning isn't "enough" and given how close they got to fucked by the permission arc it makes some sense.

>> No.4907761

OP is a fucking newfag. Capcom almost sued cover over permissions. Japanese companies are incredibly willing to sue another Japanese company over permissions. Nintendo demands revenue sharing from other companies streaming their games.

>> No.4907880

>>4907318
Also, Korone was literally dislike bombed and bullied by antis out of playing Subnautica back then because they kept harping on that she didn't have permissions to do it. It doesn't actually matter if the company doesn't care about sueing them, the pretext is enough to stir those who hate holos to action.

>> No.4907977

>>4907761
What about west?

>> No.4907994

>>4905544
ShizuRin streams on Twitch for games Ichikara doesn't have permissions for. But it's Hololive they have to turn super chat on in every single stream

>> No.4908062

>>4907713
>wow modder got mad at us on twitter
Just apologize to him and put his name in credits. No big deal. It's not like he can fucking sue you lol

>> No.4908092

>>4907977
Yeah what about the west? They play Western games don't they?
Still doesn't mean management wants to risk another Capcom.
All it takes is one beancounter in the Japanese branch of a western publisher deciding sueing is a good idea.

>> No.4908111

>>4905057
That's not their choice you dumb retard.

>> No.4908156

>>4907994
Yes. This is the real problem that Hololive faced that peoples seem to ignore or forget. Hololive need to turn superchat all the time. While Nijisanji can turn Superchat off whenever they want to play game that have no monetary permissions.

>> No.4908169

>>4905544
Streaming is actually a gray area and games have gotten DMCA over streaming. Nintendo and Atlus aren't streamer friendly for example.

>>4906025
You do in the US too, Nintendo has takem streams down before. Is that most companies don't bother, but more and more companies are asking for some kind of revenue share nowadays.

>> No.4908234

>>4908169
I remember Sasaki Saku quit Nijisanji because she cannot play her favourite Nintendo games. Glad it was solved and Pandabully come back.

>> No.4908262

>>4908156
Holos still played GTA V.

>> No.4908273

>>4905057
thanks to nijinigger

>> No.4908323

>>4908273
maybe don't evade copyright rules every single vtuber company obeys while expecting that no one would find out lmao

>> No.4908405

>>4908273
Holobrony, your dumb rrat has been busted now.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Jfj15hJurZs

>> No.4908448

>>4907994
>>4908156
Holos have turned superchat off before but it's still a risk because suits can argue that they're still losing money due to them showing the whole game to potential buyers. It's fucking stupid but these penny pinchers will go for anything they can.

>> No.4908690

>>4907713
>Holobass sperging out over something he explicitly gave rights to
He sperged out because Cover took down his music from spotify and did not respond to any of his inquiries of "let's try to figure out the conditions, I am literally ready to give you 100% of the profits". This is again a failure of hololive management, who are apparently too fucking lazy to respond to an email.

>> No.4908753

>>4908448
It's astonishing how Cover failed to get any permission despite having millions subs. Meanwhile AnyColor manage to get almost all permission with zero problem. I guess they are busy counting superchat and being a black company.

>> No.4908812

>>4907503
hey fuck you, polka's miitopia is kino

>> No.4908863

>>4908753
Gee, it's almost like Ichikara is backed by Sony and has almost triple the funding and personnel that Cover has.

>> No.4908921

>>4908753
They didn't "fail" they're not as incompetent as you think. They were simply doing it because it was giving them an easy edge over others. There was a time when in JP forums Holo was known as "The company that plays games Nijisanji can't"

>> No.4908937

>>4907503
I am ok with miitopia, but why does everybody need to play the same game at the same time? This is beyond retardation. Have some variety for fucks sake.

>> No.4908987

>>4908863
Sponsored by Sony MUSIC and have nothing to do with the whole Sony.

>> No.4909017

>>4905057
Nigga, how new? Do you even remember the Holocaust?

>> No.4909033

>>4908937
It might be part of the permission deal, to show the game to as many people as possible.

>> No.4909105

>>4908690
The guidline rules are pretty simple tho.
If he cant even bother to read them why would they bother responding to him

My assumption is that Cover doesnt bother copyrights striking people on Ytb but spotify is the limit for them.Since they didnt strike any of his monetized vids on it.

>> No.4909112

>>4909017
The Holocaust is a hoax. You're telling me 6 million videos got deleted in 1 day? Get real, there is no way anyone could do that.

>> No.4909117

>>4905057
Cover doesn't have control over whether or not games publishers give them permission to stream. I do agree that Worms would be a great collab though.

>> No.4909123

>>4907318
Most western games have open streaming permissions + cover already has permissions from EA, Activision, Ubisoft, and Microsoft anyway

>> No.4909131

>>4908987
Yes, a foremost company in the entertainment industry. Cover has no such stamp of legitimacy. In the Vtuber bubble they might be hot shots, but if I receive one email from this random company with a play button for a logo and another from a company with "backed by Sony Music Entertainment" on the first line I know which one I'm dealing with first and which one I'm putting off.

>> No.4909155

>>4908753
I wonder what cover do with their money, do they put all their money in concert & holoalt? I mean with all of those, they still got money to spare. Why not investing that to 3D or buy some game/song licenses.

>> No.4909160

>>4908092


Yeah but what about western indies that dont have japanese offices?

>> No.4909200

>>4908937
it's not hard to understand
>everyone is bored of the current games they have permission for
>new permissions come out
>everyone plays the new hotness to inject variety
>goto start

remember, just because the talents are all under hololive doesn't mean they're not competing with each other and new games are good for viewership

>> No.4909211

>>4909131
I'd deal with the play button, there's lower chance their products install rootkits on my machine.

>> No.4909239

>>4909160
western indies tend to hand out permissions and even game keys like candy as they recognize the value in free publicity

>> No.4909328

>>4909239
What the fuck is even your argument?
>What about western companies
>They play western games
>What about indies?
>They play western indie games
Fubuki and Pekora played fucking Henry Stickman. fucking ports of newgrounds flash games that aren't translated. What the fuck is your argument. Are you just a filthy Zhang trying to cause infighting? That's the only thing I'm getting from your posts.

>> No.4909413

>>4909160
What about em? Have you seen the shit Ame plays? There's at least one weird western indie game a week on her stream schedule, and occasionally the rest of the company will play it too.

>> No.4909611

>>4907977
>>4909160
Read the replies to your earlier posts, retardchama. At this point you're just ignoring people who aren't telling you what you want to hear.
Absolute state of dramafaggotry in this board

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>>4907994
I've just created a new rrat that the girls have to meet certain supachat quotas Cover sets for them and those quotas are high and low based on how many "favors" the girls do for their managers

>> No.4910490

>>4907341
>Pay us to give us free advertising
Greedy fucking japs

>> No.4910561

>>4905057
Would that be a good think? don't you watch them because they are different than the average twitch streamer?

>> No.4910622

>>4910490
Don't think for a second the west won't go in that direction eventually. It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when.

>> No.4910696

>>4905057
Wouldnt mind if some hololive members ditch hololive for V-shojo. But will be sad the models would disappear as in not to get sued digitrexv style by hololive so they would need new models.

>> No.4910716

>>4909200
I wish some of them actually finished the game they start rather than just playing it because it's what everyone is playing atm.

>> No.4910797

>>4909033
What baffled me was when Gura was playing DMC5, when she got asked to play the Vergil DLC, she has to get permission to play it even though she has permission already.
Shit is so arbitrary and complicated for no reason.

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>>4910696

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