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49029123 No.49029123 [Reply] [Original]

wait so you're telling me Nijisanji/anykara earns more gazillions dollars money than Hololive, but not single penny of it went to their livers? And nijibros somehow proud of this?

>> No.49029339

The company is their oshi, not the vtubers

>> No.49029420

Brand loyalty

>> No.49029592
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>> No.49029698

If you've heard Riku "short-term hype oriented person" Tazumi talk about business you know this isn't surprising

>> No.49029702

>>49029123
If it's so bad there why do people choose to stay at Niji? Surely the paychecks at these companies can't be that bad.
VShojo on the other hand proved they were lowballing the talents and thus many of them left as soon as their contracts were up.

>> No.49029743

>>49029592
Holy kek
Cheapsanji
Bargain goodsanji

>> No.49029900

>>49029702
>If it's so bad there why do people choose to stay at Niji?
>If you don't like being a fast-food wagie, why don't you just become a lawyer?
>If you don't like the country you live in, why don't you just move to a different one?

>> No.49029943

>>49029702
I have higher chance fucking my niji oshi(selen & rosemi) compared to other agency, so yes staying at niji is worth it for this alone

>> No.49029995

>>49029592
Ouch. That’s suck knowing if you’re a talent.

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>>49029702
>Surely the paychecks at these companies can't be that bad.
Die nanora

>> No.49030153

>>49029702
Unless you have extraordinary talents it's better to stay being a slave.
We are talking >10 years in the future when Nijisanji might still exist but indies gone to dust.

>> No.49030315

>>49029123
I AM PROUD OF RIKU MY OSHI KYS HOLOBRONIES

>> No.49030439

>>49029900
Nice false equivalance. A more accurate comparison would be:
>if you don't like being a lawyer at this company, just be a lawyer someplace else that pays better or start your own office
>>49030153
If so, then they MUST feel like they're getting paid well enough that it beats the alternative of taking your chances as an indie. That just reinforces my argument.

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ONLY NIJI THAT FUCKING MATTERS

>> No.49030965

>>49029123
There's a reason why Cover has higher gross income, but AnyColor has much higher net income.

>> No.49030987

>>49029123
BASED
"talents" need to be put in their place

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>>49030827
sry p[osted wrong image

>> No.49031715

>>49030439
Niji has a shitton of graduations though, more than any current (not black) company

>> No.49032190

>>49030439
NTA, but i'm gonna tell you this as a person who stayed in a kinda shitty job with mid payment for years instead of pursuing something else.
>The people
That's about it, if you meet really cool people you can bond with you are sure to stay longer because you know if you leave your interactions will lesses until they are mostly gone. I stayed at my old job for 4 years because the people working there were really fucking welcoming and we would go out, time flies and I spent that many years with them until the company went broke because our manager was a greedy asshole.
There are many speculations as why they don't leave, including yours.

>> No.49032195

>>49029900
Not him but being indie is worth more than being with an agency.

>> No.49032816

>>49029592
Lol

>> No.49033168

>>49029592
Pomu, don't look.

>> No.49035318

>>49029592
No way

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>>49029592

>> No.49035673

>>49029592
The Niji Dollar Store...

>> No.49035771

>>49029900
They thought being high 3 view and low 4 view was better than being a 2 view even if they only keep 2% of it.

>> No.49035843
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>>49029592

>> No.49038722

>>49029592
Candysanji..

>> No.49039222

>>49029123
Nijinigs are literally the biggest corpo bootlicker out there, they don't care about the talens

>> No.49041503

Pity bump

>> No.49043797

>>49029592
Niji discount

>> No.49043960
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>>49029592
You can always tell which company gives more money and dare I say "freedom" to the talents and which didnt in regards to merch

>> No.49044302
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>>49029123
nijiniggers are truly pathetic

>> No.49044596

>>49044302
Fuck you frogposter
Though you're not wrong

>> No.49044754

>>49043960
Yeesh. That's kind of depressing.

>> No.49044889

>>49043960
the absolute state

>> No.49046078

>>49031715
Sure but there's a significant number of them that believe it's worth staying there. Those that did leave decided that despite a good salary they'd be better off elsewhere for other non-salary based factors and benefits.

>>49032190
Fair enough but even then I'd argue that's a trade off that has non-monetary value. At that point, you're choosing the convenience of a job or the people, as you say, as part of the entirety of the package. Not many companies can offer that and not everyone values that sort of thng but even if you did value those things it would be difficult to believe you would stay despite receiving a pittance.

All this is speculation and rumors about them being lowballed since there is no concrete information anyways. All I'm arguing is that if they did have shit contracts that they would leave in the same way Vshojo lost a lot of their talents. It's posible they are lowballing them but whatever their pay cut is, it's gotta be better than going indie.

>> No.49046757

>>49046078
Here's the thing anon-chama, I would argue that just like Hololive, the fear of losing your model people grew acostume to is there in NIjisanji too and you've seen how the CCV of those who left their personas went in the EN corporate scene, not a pretty good look. Imagine Luxiem losing their iconic designs, they canq't just buy it nor commision something close to it without the risk of being sued.

>> No.49046853

>>49029123
of course, people support the team. Players change all the time.

>> No.49047900

>>49044302
Based, nijiniggers seething itt

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>>49029592
i have below room temp iq, i dont get it??? arent liking the candies a good thing or what

>> No.49048847

>>49029339
This is the sad truth.

>> No.49049241

Many streamers and youtubers have revealed that merchandise trumps all other income sources. DisguisedToast revealed that his very popular friends had merch drops in the millions.

It’s why every agency invents as many birthdays and celebrations as possible to sell merch along side. It trounces superchats and ad money, it’s not even close.

Knowing all this, 2% is fucking criminal. Even if they paid a salary and took no cut of members/ads it would still be crumbs.

>> No.49049666

>>49049241
That's what I've been saying for a long time but you have some numberfags claiming here that those superchats, that's where the real money is at. I'd also say the 2nd form of income they earn more from comes from membership since that is more consistent than ad revenue and superchats. Single digit percent on merch sales just sounds illegal. If not then very greedy on the companies side.

>> No.49049766

>>49048805
The joke is that nijisanji has cheap goods hence why the kid can enjoy cheap ass chinese bootleg candy from nijisanji, my lovely retard.

>> No.49049920

>>49029123
AnyColor nets more than Cover (despite Cover grossing more) precisely BECAUSE they don't share it with their livers.

>> No.49050895

Bump

>> No.49051021

>>49049920
>nijfags unironically think this is a good thing

>> No.49051380

>>49046757
Talents know that going in though. It's what they sign up for. If they develop strong feelings for the model to the point that it becomes the deciding factor on whether or not they should stay and be enslaved (low salary, weak profits) then tough shit. Salary must not be important enough to them.
Regardless, it's in the interest of these companies to keep the talents happy and satisified monetarily. Leaving them out to dry or lowballing them and your risk losing that talent and tens of thousands of dollars creating the model plus unknown amounts more in potential revenue that talent could have brought in.

>> No.49051412

>>49029702
Brand recognition and easier clout
People would do anything for attention even for free

>> No.49051450

>>49029123
hololive = marvel
nijisanji = dc

>> No.49051726

>>49051380
>it's in the interest of these companies
What about vtuber corpo management makes you think that things they do are always good for the companies? Was it HoloEN management prioritizing a side branch for two years, NijiEN being NijiEN ever since Iluna, whatever the fuck happened to Vshojo, or the entire small corpo scene being a giant trash pyre? The circus is being run by fucking clowns.

>> No.49051736

>>49051450
Unironically Nijisanji is closer to Marvel . They shit out a bunch of low quality products and saturate the market, and those loyal to the brand refuse to acknowledge the major issues such as mistreating their workers. Also pozzed as shit.

>> No.49051773

>>49051450
Go back to /co/

>> No.49052217

>>49035771
It IS better. Especially for those that dont vtube for money but for fame.

>> No.49052623

>>49052217
>we are paying you in exposure

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>>49029592
MY SIDES ARE GONE

>> No.49054173

>>49029123
yes, problem?

>> No.49054606

>>49043960
i have never seen something so soulless in a vtubing context goddamn niji get your selves together, its like they're being neglected compared to nijijp

>> No.49055013

>>49029702
Compared to becoming huge on their own? It's not worth it. Compared to what level of success they had before, or can realistically get on their own? Maybe being in nijisanji is worth it.

>> No.49055400

>>49029592
kek

>> No.49055498

>>49029702
>nijifag deflection
Leaving VShojo has no impact on the streamer. They keep all their shit and they can continue to collab with VShojo. It's apples to oranges. Leaving Niji means leaving their IP behind and getting blacklisted from all their Niji "family". You are trapped in Niji. You are free to leave in VShojo.

>> No.49055880

>>49055498
>Leaving Niji means leaving their IP behind and getting blacklisted from all their Niji "family".
So where's Pikamee nowadays? And Rushia too.

>> No.49055916

>>49029123
chinks are brought up to worship the ̶e̶m̶p̶e̶r̶o̶r̶ company. They do not have any individual thoughts and purpose, only the company and it's interest matter

>> No.49056355

>>49055916
No one wants to hear about your fantasies.

>> No.49056562

>>49029123
One of the best ways to make money is to not pay people.

>> No.49058377

>>49029592
wow

>> No.49058658

>>49030439
>quit lawyer company
>no other company hires you
really makes you think

>> No.49059511

>>49029123

pekora is getting more and more retarded

>> No.49061652

>>49029123
Yes

>> No.49062097

>>49043960
>Nijisanji products
this is the type of shit you can buy at a con from a booth artist wtf

>> No.49064678

>>49029123
>nijibros somehow proud of this?
DYRBI?

>> No.49064903

>>49044302
Based department

>> No.49065790

>>49029123
Truth is hard

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>> No.49069232

>>49052217
>Scenario A, indie
>unique smaller brand, full control
>get $100 in merch, keep 90% = $90
>have to manage and tard wrangle yourself
>Scenario B, Niji
>no one cares about your brand, only corpo
>get $1000 in merch, keep 1% = $10
>have to manage and tard wrangle yourself
I genuinely don't see the upside of Niji other than maybe a circle of people to collab with that's semi-trustable because of corpo

>> No.49069806

>>49043960
Oh no no no Nijisisters, your reply?

>> No.49072198

>>49029123
of course

>> No.49073873

>>49029123
record profits, seethe

>> No.49076912

>>49049241
Even an indie like buff can sell 2k figures and earn more than nijis get

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>>49043960
Even HoloID got better merch rumao

>> No.49077499

>>49069232
No indie is turning 90% profit from their merch, not even the ones who produce most of it themselves

>> No.49080864

>>49029592
Sorry but I'm going to need an actual source for this

>> No.49085607

>>49029592
Mass produced in sweatshops too most likely

>> No.49085694

>>49029123

>> No.49085769

>>49029123
um actually they do get exactly a single penny so you're wrong

>> No.49086404

>>49051450
that's the opposite though. dc pays in royalties way better than marvel. i think it was the guy who created rocket racoon said he go less money from rocket appearing in multiple marvel movies than he did a literally who dc character that only appeared in like 10 minutes of 1 movie.

>> No.49086740

>>49029123
Riku's dick won't suck itself

>> No.49086935

>>49069232
The thing compared to indies is they don't have to do anything for that $10

>> No.49087640

>>49064678
Yes.
We're rewarded with steam gift cards as well!

>> No.49087907

>>49077499
I'm an indie and I was selling Keychains and stickers at 80-90% profit

>> No.49091631

>>49043960
Uniformity =/= Unity
wwtl?

>> No.49091682

>>49029123
I don't work for them so I don't care where the money goes lol.

>> No.49091709

>>49091631
Oh wait, China...

>> No.49093324

>>49069232
Why are people citing the 1% as a real number and not just a rumor? Who's the source?

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