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>> No.49016170
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.49016171

2%

>> No.49016179
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2%
>2%
2%
>2%
2%
>2%
2%
>2%
2%
>2%

>> No.49016181

I mean 1-3% probably makes up for lot of money

>> No.49016203

>>49016171
>>49016179
>>49015971
>>49015976
>>49015989
DAMN

That's double what i expected!

>> No.49016204

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCaLhceXrmg

>> No.49016212

the Niji thread is freaking out because apparently they only get a small percent of the merch sales. How much do they actually get?

>> No.49016218
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49016218

From the merch leaks from anniversary sales only.
Selen the top girl vs Aia the bottom girl.

>> No.49016222

I'm pretty sure Mysta has mentioned getting like 1% for merch before and everyone just thought he was exaggerating how bad it was.

>> No.49016229
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>vacation until may 22
MOMMYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>> No.49016242

Clip it faster, retards.

>> No.49016240

>>49016181
It's way more than 0 when you think about it!

>> No.49016258

>>49016204
Keep begging, sisters! Keep fighting the good fight! HURRAH!

>> No.49016271

Any idea how much Cover takes from merch?

>>49016218
>at most not even 100 bucks for the bottom
Jesus fucking Christ

>> No.49016281

so, kiara was a bitch for making the poor nijigirls pay for her meal?
they don't even make half of what she does

>> No.49016286

>>49015899
TimeRys would get smashed by Faunmei

>> No.49016298

This False guy has awful live presentation skills. He reads his script like it's being live updated via telegraph. Ought to stick with prerecorded content.

>> No.49016321

>>49016218
Where does the percentage came from?

>> No.49016318

>>49016218
Aia...

>> No.49016322

>>49016271
We don't know, we will probably never know. Unlikely it is that low since it's custom merch, though. Might be like 25% or something.

>> No.49016323

>>49016163

>> No.49016336

>2%
LMAO
HOLOS PROBABLY GET MORE THAN THAT ON MERCH THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH SHILLING

>> No.49016341
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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>53,933: Marine (Hololive)
>49,722: Pekora (Hololive)
>28,584: Koyori (Hololive)
>24,420: Botan (Hololive)
>20,987: Korone (Hololive)
>15,731: Kanata (Hololive)
>15,590: Mio (Hololive)
>14,708: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>13,781: Haneru (774 inc)
>12,862: Nene (Hololive)
>12,506: Fubuki (Hololive)
>11,744: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,035: Fuwa (Nijisanji)

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Is THIS the numbers thread?

>> No.49016347

1% Mysta merch rrat, CONFIRMED! Does this include birthday merch?

>> No.49016349

>>49016218
Selen can probably afford 1 month rent with her anniv right??

>> No.49016350

>>49016218
Does Aia make up for it anywhere else?

>> No.49016354

>>49016271
We only know that it's the best way to support them and they can self fund all of it if they want.

>> No.49016358

>>49016218
...
.....

I can't even shitpost, making 27 dollars while being part of the #2 vtuber corpo in the world is just sad.

Reminder, no salaries btw.

>> No.49016370

>>49016271
Depends on the type. Custom merch depends on how much of the cost the talents cover, with the standard merch like acrylics who knows.

>> No.49016383

2%
Damn,that explain why Reimu had problems to pay her rent

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>>49016229
Worry not. Our brother will keep her safe for the week.

>> No.49016418
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>>49016341
>MAY 2023 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 58,764 - Clubhouse 51 w/ Nene
2) Miko (Hololive) - 117,536 - Collab w/ Suisei, Aqua, Towa, Subaru, Botan
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 82,868 - Reverse Totsumachi Endurance (w/ Marine)
4) Koyori (Hololive) - 63,666 - 24 Hour Stream
5) Marine (Hololive) - 80,623 - Fashion Showdown (w/ Aqua, Okayu, Mio, Lamy)
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 110,996 - Mario Maker Tournament
7) Marine (Hololive) - 51,152 - Super Mario Maker 2
8) Marine (Hololive) - 53,933 - Idol Showdown

>PER COMPANY
8x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
3x: Marine
2x: Miko, Pekora
1x: Koyori

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
97x: Hololive
22x: Nijisanji
4x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: VSPO

>PER STREAMER
37x: Pekora
13x: Marine
10x: Miko
6x: Toya
4x: Hal, Subaru
3x: Hololive, Kuzuha, Mio, Okayu, Suisei, Koyori
2x: Chiroru, Iroha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Salome, Towa
1x: Aqua, Ayame, Choco, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Kanata, Kiara, Korone, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Roco, Ryushen, Shion, Watame, Yashiro

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>>49016350
SCs, which they probably skim off the top.

>> No.49016428

>>49016218
3% isn't even minimum wage for a month...

>> No.49016438

So are we ignoring the existence of voice packs, superchat and everything else that makes money? or are you guys thinking the only money they make is from merchandise? lol

>> No.49016440

How do nijis even survive like this?

>> No.49016456

>>49016323
>SC
already only 30% and they dont get many anyway
>VP
no sales numbers
>other things
what other things??

>> No.49016467

2%434

>> No.49016477

The important thing really is that Cover, at least they used to idk if they still do, offer salaries for talents until they become popular enough to not need them.

Niji, meanwhile, doesn't offer any salary AND you have to pay for shit out of pocket from debut till you graduate.

So, yeah, 2% is just the cherry on top.

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>>49016218
>$27
$27
>$27
$27
>$27
$27
>$27
$27
>$27
$27

>> No.49016479

>2%
I gotta need a source for that you fucking fagets.

>> No.49016492

>2%

>> No.49016500

>laugh uncontrollably
>hitting the table multiple times while laughing at the bois
So far, only Pekora has reacted the best to holostars. She deserves the gold for that alone.
https://youtu.be/Ah2KVUIeLqg?t=3828

>> No.49016505

>>49016438
>B-BUT THEY GET MONEY FROM SCs
That they're also skimming off the top. Sure they make money but don't pretend this also isn't fucking ridiculous. 1% is actually insane when you have to put in most of the fucking work.

>> No.49016511

>>49016271
Custom Merch gives them the lion's share, but they get a good amount for all the other type of merch

>> No.49016512

JESAS. I would rather risk and fund my own merch but get most of the profit, than this 1-3% cut shit. Yeah, it's risk-free and all, but I'll get 3k USD for every 100k worth of merch? NO WAY

>> No.49016521

>>49016479
It's double the amount Mysta said they got, you can run with that angle sisters.

>> No.49016527

>guy makes a hololive fangame
>/#/ and streamers goes apeshit because roberu is in it
You people hate effort eh

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REMINDER

>> No.49016536

>nijis probably take loans from Anycolor themselves to pay for their finances
imagine if that was the case.

>> No.49016545

>present an image without source
># eat it wholesale
Yeah drooling retards here never ask for source.

>> No.49016552
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*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY*

>5/8 DAILY TALLY
7,622: Fauna (Hololive)
6,416: Mumei (Hololive)
6,374: Kiara (Hololive)
6,224: IRyS (Hololive)
5,365: Mori (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR MAY 2023
1) IRyS (Hololive) - 9,139 - Super Mario Maker
2) Fauna (Hololive) - 13,573 - ASMR Offcollab (w/ Kronii)
3) Luca (Nijisanji) - 9,264 - NijiEN Dating Show (w/ Uki, Alban, Vox, Ren, Kyo)
4) IRyS (Hololive) - 7,445 - Super Smash Bros.
5) Gura (Hololive) - 13,811 - Bramble The Mountain King
6) Mumei (Hololive) - 17,981 - Council Uno Collab
7) Amelia (Hololive) - 8,418 - Unarchived Karaoke
8) Fauna (Hololive) - 7,622 - Super Mario Maker 2

>PER COMPANY
7x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
2x: IRyS, Fauna
1x: Luca, Gura, Mumei, Amelia

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
13p: IRyS
10p: Fauna
8p: Mumei
7p: Mori
5p: Luca, Gura, Amelia, Baelz
4p: Shu, Ina
1p: Kiara

>> No.49016567

Number thread, as in a singular number

>> No.49016575
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49016575

From all the merch data that could be scraped from the store regarding anniversary sales.
This is how much Anycolor paid out.

>> No.49016574

>>49016421
after cuts from YT and Niji, thats less than paid as a waiter

>> No.49016585

>>49016505
I have no horse in this race, but what work is put into merch? I thought they just submit the idea / design and let everyone else handle it?

>> No.49016587

>>49016438
>or are you guys thinking the only money they make is from merchandise?
obviously no one thinks that because they don't make any money from merchandise.

>> No.49016600

>>49016204
>T-They just don't know the references
>T-They don't have the time to watch the stars
Why is it so hard to admit that some girls just don't care about the homos? these people act like the homos are the most refined content in all vtubing that no one can resist

>> No.49016603

>>49016552
Fauna Sweep

>> No.49016602

>>49016218
I missed it, what's the source for 1-3%? We knew merch was the worst but this is so bad it would be unbelievable from anywhere other than the "former" black company

>> No.49016610

>>49016271
As >>49016370 mentioned, they likely have different splits for the different types of merch they offer

>> No.49016614

I feel like anycolor has to have some livers in debt

>> No.49016617

>>49016438
Unless it's BJ or handjob ASMR, who the hell would buy cringy voice packs?

>> No.49016638

>>49016438
>>49016456

>> No.49016641
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>>49016552
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
91x: Hololive
35x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
12x: Mori
11x: IRyS, Fauna
10x: Gura
9x: Baelz, Mumei
8x: Ina, Amelia
7x: Kronii, Vox
5x: Kiara, Mysta
4x: Selen
3x: Pomu, Shu
2x: Luca
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Ren, Sonny, Fulgur

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
122p: Fauna
90p: Mori, IRyS
87p: Ina
86p: Mumei
84p: Baelz
64p: Vox
60p: Amelia
53p: Mysta
50p: Gura
49p: Kiara
47p: Kronii
43p: Luca
31p: Selen
22p: Shu
16p: Pomu
11p: Uki, Axel, Sonny
10p: Ike
9p: Millie, Enna, Fulgur
8p: Finana
7p: Regis, Elira
6p: Rosemi, Ren
5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English
4p: Vesper
3p: Hakka, Magni, Kotoka
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Maria, Pippa, Nina

>> No.49016643

>>49016521
I know what Mysta said. CrookedEyeD didn't give a source and is just running with what we already had but you guys are eating his shit up. Has some standard please.

>> No.49016650

>>49016602
Mysta supposedly said it a while ago. Kuzuha said it 3 years ago.

>> No.49016655

>>49016545
Why would anyone /here/ lie?

>> No.49016667

>>49016529
Finana genuinely believed that Cover operated in the same way as Anycolor with donations being their main income source.

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Deploy the spell cards sisters!

>> No.49016675

did he clarify if it's 1-3% on voice packs ONLY, or on all their merch including birthdays?

>> No.49016677
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>> No.49016687

TWO
PERCENT

>> No.49016694

>>49016574
Yeah, ~20k a year after taxes isn't great in Canada. (it's actually 1/3rd the average salary)

>> No.49016702

>>49016536
read Zaion doc, she literally did and still paying off the debt

>> No.49016713

>>49016505
They don't put any work on merch anon, thats entirely produced by the company
they get 50/50 on voice packs because of that very reason, as they participate on it

>> No.49016718

>>49016421
Is that for the year?2j0k I make more than that working 3 days a week with just my GED

>> No.49016721

2% is fucking garbage.
Now the real question as usual is how will this affect hololive?
Japanese are probably not gonna be affected by the news but the people oversea are a lot more distrustful so it wouldnt surprise that because of anycolor shitty action they get more reluctant in buying merch and the fucking clipwatchers who dont even consume 1% of hololive stream will gladly spread their misinformation and spread it as gospel.

>> No.49016723

>>49016675
Voice packs is 50%, livers themselves have said this, it's the other type of merch which is 1-3%

>> No.49016724

>>49016527
Dude, that drama is soooo a couple of hours ago, we're talking about 2% now. Stick with the program.

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>>49016552
>>49016603

>> No.49016737

>>49016650
Thanks I might give dumpster diving a try later today

>> No.49016748

>>49016600
Because, CLEARLY, it's only because of the unicorns that we don't get streams of Fauna and Kronii slobbing on homo cock daily. If it weren't for those damn unicorns, my cuck fantasies would be catered to.

>> No.49016759

QUICK SISTERS, DEFLECT!

>> No.49016760

>>49016675
he did not say voice packs only. He implied it was their general merch split
He also segued immediately into niji's recent merch announcement for lazulight so you can assume it applies to stuff like that

>> No.49016772

>>49016617
voice packs make most of the money in the company alongside merchandise

>> No.49016775

>>49016675
Voice packs have been said multiple times, even by JP side to be the best way to support them. Only EN gets streamlabs iirc which is even better.

>> No.49016778

>>49016675
voice packs = big money
whenever the livers need money they start shitting out voicepacks

>> No.49016787

>>49016500
Oboretai got his big clip with this one

>> No.49016792

>>49016687
>>49016721
Source? From the voices in his head?

>> No.49016816

>>49016667
I think Finana was just exclusively talking about SCs, which at the time Luxiem (well, Vox) were competitive even with the top JPs like Chloe. That's the only publicly available information.

>> No.49016847

>>49016675
He used a Pomu doll as an example of merch, so I'm thinking all merch

>> No.49016851

>>49016792
Yes and he'll probably get sued if he's wrong.

>> No.49016862

AAAIIIIIEEEE HE'S SHOWING THE KYO TWITLONGER CLIP

>> No.49016865

>>49016721
source?

>> No.49016869

>>49016792
he simply said that and "verified", and everyone will buy it withot any proof whatsoever

>> No.49016872

>>49016600
Bro it's just a clip

>> No.49016877

OH NONONO THE FUCKING PART WITH HEX AND KYO TRASHTALKING THE GOOGLE DOC,
SISTERS WHAT DO WE DO

>> No.49016892

So does anyone have a timestamp ? i don't even mind it being behind a membership, i will pay for it.

>> No.49016928

HOW THE FUCK IS 2% EVEN REAL?

>> No.49016931

>>49016792
From Zaion probably
But as mentioned people like Kuzuha and Mysta have mentioned something along those lines before so he must not be that wrong

>> No.49016934

>>49016792
he also didn't refer to nijisanji explicitly

>> No.49016937

>>49016600
They don't want to accept really. The moment they do, they will go full anti-Hololive

>> No.49016941

>>49016872
Yep. A clip.
The only things homobeggars watch lol.

>> No.49016947

>>49016723
give us the sales numbers of those 4$ VP... cmon Nijifags, defend properly

>> No.49016951

Sayu with a pretty smart move here. Instead of her running her mouth and risk a lawsuit, she just handed the gun to False, which she knows Anykara can't do nothing about + he is well known and trusted by majority of the EN normies. She gets his revenge to Kyo and Co, somewhat by revealing how trash their finances are KEK, using False and his platform. Nice move

>> No.49016966

>>49016862
>THE KYO TWITLONGER CLIP
?????

>> No.49016981

>Kuzuha said
>mysta said it
>pomu said it
>everyone already assumed the cut was minuscule

Disbelieving just because False also says it is just cope at this point.

>> No.49016984

>>49016877
>>49016928
wtf are you watching? post the link

>> No.49016991

>>49016941
Okay?

>> No.49016992

>>49016869
Exactly. I can't believe I am sharing thread with lobotomized morons. I won't be surprised if no one in his chat demanding evidence.

>> No.49017022

>>49016981
Now the question is how much they take from other sources.

>> No.49017054

What are we shitting on today /#/?
Yesterday was idol showdown

>> No.49017065

NDF is in overdrive kek

>> No.49017066

>>49017022
A shit ton. Anykara is greedy as fuck

>> No.49017068

>>49016984
False confirmed they get 1%-3% from a "trusted source". This was already knowledge floating around. Mysta explicitly said 1% and people thought he was joking.

>> No.49017071

Kronii still has not opened her chat by the way

>> No.49017083

>>49017022
50% from voice packs and that's their highest cut.
Streamlabs is prob 30-40 but no source on that one compared to voice packs.

>> No.49017084

>>49016892
He starts talking about it here
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1814912209?t=00h58m56s

>> No.49017086

>>49016928
It is not until we see some evidence.

>>49016931
We watched Zaion's stream yesterday. She drafted the document and reviewed by her lawyer. She didn't disclose any information anywhere else.

>> No.49017116

>>49016951
Reminder that the first person she followed on her twitch when she debut was false

>> No.49017121

>>49017071
It's gonna be a repeat of Ame yesterday. I swear anyone but Ina and Fauna streaming at this slot just oversleeps half the time.

>> No.49017124

>>49017054
McDonald's part-time burgeflippers make more money than Nijien

>> No.49017158

>>49016981
That is not the point. The point is that we know it but need evidence. Zaion's document gave evidence about stealth suspension. This dramatuber's stream gave us 0 shits. He just spew shits we already know but hey, it is on a stream so everyone should get excited, right?

>> No.49017160

>>49017084
Why is there so much dead air lol ?

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Remember when an anon here was really insistent that there was ABSOLUTELY NO WAY Holos get a share of profit from merch sales?

>I WONDER WHO COULD HAVE BEEN

>> No.49017181

>>49017083
And how much from SCs and memberships? Also source on the voice packs?

>> No.49017187

>>49017116
And Hasan....

>> No.49017202

>>49017160
He’s recording for his video. Makes it easier to edit later.

>> No.49017205

>believing dramatuber
The state of /#/keks

>> No.49017220

Sorry Nijifags for always shitting on you and your talents.... they are not even doing better than MacD employees

>> No.49017221

>>49016934
This coward is trying to avoid getting sue despite living in the US. I respect Korekore more as he actually mentioned Nijisanji by name just now even though he lives in Japan.

>> No.49017222

>>49017160
I think it's some retarded thing he does for his editor

>> No.49017225

>>49017066
we already know for years its 50/50 voice packs, 33% SC/memberships, and so on. their "salary" is the sum of all of the revenue avenues

>> No.49017245

>>49017181
SC 33%, VP and Streamlabs 50%

>> No.49017251

>>49016760
>>49016847
RIP NijiEN ''''''livers'''''' KEK, especially the girls considering streamlabs is their best money-maker, but the faggots hold much of the chink gachis. Hell, from the last time I went over Playboard, majority of them still hasn't broke 100k in SC money, as of course you can't expect anyone of them to have more streamlabs than YT donations

>> No.49017255

>>49017205
TWITTER THREAD
TWITTER BOARD

>> No.49017275

>>49017166
>2%
I gotta need source for that, CrookEyeD's underling.

>> No.49017277

Nijipoors...

>> No.49017281

>>49017181
voice packs is said by livers for years, tomoe was the one who said it. its the best cut

>> No.49017313

>>49016614
you think?
it's probably goes like this
>Riku - "Ah hello, what brings you here
>NijiLiver - *im going through some financial problems. the pay isn't enough. ...can you lend me some money?"
>Riku - "Ahhh i see... well, let's do this."
>Slides new contract towards liver
>Riku - "if you sign this, you will get at least 500,000 yen right now. but you'll have to work with us for at least... 5 years at least to pay it all back. also, we will be taking all the merch money and you won't get any from it. 100% of it will go towards 'paying off your debt'."

>> No.49017314

Should I beleeb False? Sus...

>> No.49017333

>>49017281
That dog vtuber was told by management to sell some voice packs when she needed money iirc

>> No.49017340

>>49017275
Nijipoorseethe

>> No.49017352

NDF! NDF! NDF!

>> No.49017381

>>49016575
>30k
Damn, they’re totally jewing the NijiEN blokes.
Fucking vallets get more than 2% off the parking revenue on tips alone

>> No.49017383

>>49017245
>>49017281
I wonder if someone is calculating how much some of the Nijis make in a month to compare the upper echelon with the runts.

>> No.49017384

One thing no one in any company has ever talked about or leaked is ad rev stuff, as far as I know? People act like it's pennies but when you're putting away 20-100k+ VOD 5 days a week it's not pennies. Some of these streams, if you watch them on mobile, have like a half dozen ads in an hour.

>> No.49017395

>watching dramatubers
drooling retard
>believing shits without evidence
absolutely baffling

At least you guys demand evidence from him, right? Right?

>> No.49017399

>>49016614
NijiID...

>> No.49017408

My nigga Aster better have fallback plan....

>> No.49017432

>>49016500
THE FAMILY IS COMING BACK. ROBERU CAN COME BACK HOME.

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>>49016600
Jej

>> No.49017455

>>49017384
you can try for many excuses, doesnt change the fact they might be better off as indies than working for this cancer

>> No.49017478

Mythic killing NijiCN swiftly. Watch out anon, NDF might start posting CP very soon.

>> No.49017483

>nijiEN use this "drama" as an opportunity to get more pay
imagine.

>> No.49017484

>41 posters only
>already spammed entire thread about the 2%
>none of them posted any proof
Give me the proof, now!

>> No.49017511

>>49017166
I think that one is an ex tatsunoko seething at corpos. He always pops up when people shittalk Kson.

>> No.49017536

Hololive is winning again.... this time just being fair

>> No.49017539

>>49017452
lmao, get fucked homobeggars

>> No.49017547

>>49017083
No, Pomu said streamlabs and voice packs (1st), superchats (2nd), then merch (3rd). Just by using logic, it's 50% from voice packs and streamlabs (since streamlabs doesn't take a cut), 35% from superchats (since YT takes 30% cut, then 35/35 split for the talent and Nijisanji), then merch 1-3%.

>> No.49017572

>>49017383
We know Mille made something like 13k from Youtube because she leaked her analytics page. That's adrev, SCs, and memberships, after Youtube's cut but before Anycolor's. So that's like $6,500 for her. Then Streamlabs, any nominal income from merch, and any sponsorships. Kobo leaked hers too and it was like $10k which makes sense given how worthless Indo donations are and how crappy their CPM is

>> No.49017581

>>49017452
They should be mad they fell for clickbait

>> No.49017585

>wasted 1 hour talking nothing
>saying stuff we already know without presenting evidences

>> No.49017599

OH NO NO NO NIJIBROS
https://youtu.be/LlbakAXOe9U

>> No.49017604
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le 2% face

>> No.49017622

>>49016271
No, but considering Holo members say it's the best way to support them along with voice packs and they at least go 50/50 on super chats you can get an idea.

>> No.49017624

>>49017547
>/#/ in charge of numbers...

>> No.49017635

>>49017484
anon, calm down... you will need meds for the head pain... not sure if you or your oshi can afford it

>> No.49017636

>Fauna starting
Finally I can relax and be happy

>> No.49017655

>>49017599
Zaion is black????

>> No.49017665

>>49017547
>>49017604
I just want to know whether if he has any exclusive or just spouting things we already talked to death.

>> No.49017673

>>49017547
Pomu said Voicepacks and Streamlabs are the best (50/50 split), then Superchats (35/35/30-YT), then merch (no percentage given). Memberships probably handled the same as Superchats.

>> No.49017691

>>49017483
If NijiJP ever found out they got better pay there would be hell to pay.

>> No.49017700

>>49017455
and yet the members renew their contracts and quit their job for it...

>> No.49017714

I do wonder if the custom merch some members do (like ID) also gets the 1-3% cut or if it is akin to voicepacks

>> No.49017725

I wonder how the main branch management feel about all these infos leaking from their EN branch. Infos like the interview process to merch cuts.

>> No.49017758

>>49017636
5 3 4 3 6 3, 5 3 3 8 3 4 5.
Numbers

>> No.49017763

>>49017599
>Zaion and Chris brown are on the same level

>> No.49017786

Oh, Kronii woke up and delayed by 5 minutes.

>> No.49017789

what the fuck happened? i swear we were still on the "hologirls are talking about roberu" part. WHAT THE FUCK DID MISS. FUCK BEING A WAGIE

>> No.49017788

>>49017700
ofcourse they need to pay their debts to Riku before leaving

>> No.49017796

>>49017725
they will shut down that branch sooner than later

>> No.49017837

>Fauna had a lazy Saturday
>I had a lazy Saturday
We are

>> No.49017840
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>>49017700
It's still easier than working a real job.

>> No.49017850

>>49017725
Interview process we knew from Zaion's document, Earning we know from Kanae, Kuzuha, Pomu and Mysta. Did this dramatuber gave us any new info?

>> No.49017858

>>49017788
they dont need to go in debt retard. Zaion went on debt because she did a super expensive debut. 90% of the nijis debut is simple as fuck and very cheap, including all lazusydia

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>>49016792
>>49016869
>>49016992
>>49017086
>>49017314
>>49017484

>> No.49017874

>>49017158
>we know it but need evidence.
kek, you’re lost kiddo. Both in the “we” part
>always the telltale of an outsider trying his best to blend in, in an anonymous forum without any sort of permanent individual identity, let alone collective
and the “need evidence” part

>> No.49017903

>These Niji girls manage to "survive" with these pathetic numbers
holy shit, holo girls are rich af

>> No.49017910
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Why ID like this

>> No.49017915

>>49017837
Eh, Definitely Do Your best to be relaxing then.

>> No.49017925

>>49017903
water is wet

>> No.49017928

>>49017840
Plus sponsorship money, participation on events, voice packs, etc
the merch percentage sucks, which is in general very common to jp industry (idols get 2% shares, mangaka gets 1.75% share for adaptations) but the rest is normal

>> No.49017942

>>49017858
They need to make a good first impression. The acceleration kinda forces them to do something bigger after every wave

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The recline...

>> No.49017995

Reminder that in NijiEN
>You only get 2% of your merch sales
>Any commission is full paid by the streamer, that mean 3D chibi models, covers, music rights, etc.
>You don't get paid for streaming or extra hours, views on VODs or ads on your channel
>You have to pay for you vacations
>You have to pay for your business trips
>Any deal or collab with a brand pay you extra, but it doesn't cover the work hours and if you can't stream you don't get paid
>You have no health insurance
>Any paperwork need to fill for taxes is your own problem
>Any paperwork for a working visa, is your own problem
>if you can't get to japan you need to pay a penalty fee

>> No.49018000

>>49017874
Do you also think we don't have evidence for the holo's merch sales figure and are just bullshiting? Who is the one that is trying to blend in right now?

>> No.49018012

>>49017942
No, they do not anon. You can count your hands what members had a super production and most were in EN. Even in EN you have Shu, Nina and others not spending much

>> No.49018015

>>49017858
and they are getting the deserved numbers for it... should you start tipping them with every SC now Nijifag?? They might need it, every small bits help

>> No.49018017

>>49017910
Chist, isn't it like 5 am in ID?

>> No.49018019

>>49017903
just by looking at # of hours streamed proves that. Gura can fuck off for months then do a once a month merch shilling stream and be set for another 3 months

>> No.49018029

>>49017910
They are beating NIJIen while overlapping with the same game

>> No.49018048

>>49017903
Well, I guess this kinda hints as to why Gura does not feel too compelled to stream or anything.

She's probably making doctor-level money through merch and sponsorships alone lmao.

>> No.49018061

Didn't King mention something like this before? It kinda corroborates this

>> No.49018072

Nijisanji sounds like a south african companies now

>> No.49018080

>>49017840
I have seen posts saying that their superchat income is pretty close to their take-home pay.
So someone with $100k in superchats probably took home about $100k once you add it all up. Merch isn't even a factor in their earnings, this is pretty common wisdom. I guess the general public doesn't know that though.

>> No.49018082

>>49017995
Source: it was revealed to me by a schizo

>> No.49018094

>>49017995
>You have to pay for your business trips
false, we know anycolor paid for that on nijifes and on events
>You have to pay for you vacations
If its not business related, yes, you have to pay
most of the things you said arent true anon, and in fact, they are the same in hololive

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>>49017840
For some of them, some of the new hires ain't doing as hot

>> No.49018103
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Question Holobros. Would you defend cover if they did this to their talent?

>> No.49018142

>>49018012
Shu and Nina where from early waves. GAMERS and the next 5 EN Waves need something to keep themselves in people's minds

>> No.49018144

Koyo god
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1vs7nNttKg

>> No.49018150

>>49018094
>Unironically replying to a shitpost

>> No.49018162

MONSEIUR TAZUMI ACTIVATE ZE DEFLECTOBOTS

>> No.49018178

>>49017995
don't forget the collab fees

>> No.49018201

>>49018103
I am not a bootlicker, would not support this

>> No.49018202

>>49017995
Wasn't it always obvious since Any Colors financials were revealed? They don't distribute as much of their revenue back to the talents as Cover does

>> No.49018206

>>49018103
I have attacked Cover for less

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Tempissfags are just one bad day away from being unironic holo antis

>> No.49018227

>collab fees
You're making that one up

>> No.49018229

>>49018103
Absolutely not. Any money I would spend would go straight to their roommates.

>> No.49018230

>>49018142
Shu was from the 4th and Nina from the 3rd.

>> No.49018234

Just letting you Nijifags from NDF know that - # thread is the worst place to defend your organs... we hate Niji with passion and no excuses will change that. Might wanna go to twitter and discord to help your fellow fags

>> No.49018235

>comfy Fauna hours ruined because nijisanji is a greedy black company
Niji Hate

>> No.49018255

>>49018103
I'm honestly expecting the cookie cutter merch like valentine's acrylic stands and such aren't much better, but the Holo girls make bank off custom merch they self-fund, which Niji's don't have, so it honestly doesn't matter.

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now you know why KEK

>> No.49018276

>>49018103
Man I shit on cover all the time cause my oshi had to stay up till 2am for a meeting. If they were a shitty black company like kurosanji I'd be calling for her to quit

>> No.49018279

>>49018235
Go back to hlgg retard

>> No.49018288

>>49018103
Fuck no, that would be theft at the amounts of merch they move.

>> No.49018294

>>49018271
Guess they really are immune to yabs

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>>49017599
>talk about niji
>go out there and work and make that money

>> No.49018318

Kronii today was a really fucking bad day for you to be sitting in this timeslot.

>> No.49018351

>>49018222
Aren't they already unironic holo antis? The comment section of that Kanata clip talking about male collabs was pretty much antis shitting on her for not doing what they want.

>> No.49018371

>>49018103
As much i hate RM shit, i'd probably have to go with this >>49018229
Perhaps thats why RM's are banned for Nijisanji, but Cover has no problem with active RM's.

>> No.49018398

>>49017995
>You only get 2% of your merch sales
We got 1% from Mysta's claim. No evidence provided by FalseEye for this claim.
>Any commission is full paid by the streamer, that mean 3D chibi models, covers, music rights, etc.
We got it from Zaion for the anycolor part, from various holos for Cover part.
>You don't get paid for streaming or extra hours, views on VODs or ads on your channel
Afaik streaming by itself doesn't pay the talents in anyway, no source on claim that they don't give cuts for ads view
>You have to pay for you vacations
....yes?
>You have to pay for your business trips
No source, not even from Hana, definitely no source by FalseEye
>Any deal or collab with a brand pay you extra, but it doesn't cover the work hours and if you can't stream you don't get paid
Are you expecting to get paid if you don't do the sponsor stream. Did FalseEye really made this point?
>You have no health insurance
Source?
>Any paperwork need to fill for taxes is your own problem
Source? From Mori and other JP holos, doing taxes is personal problem.
>Any paperwork for a working visa, is your own problem
Again no evidence from FalseEye. I don't even see this from Hana.
>if you can't get to japan you need to pay a penalty fee
Did Hana paid a penalty fee? Did FalseEye really make this claim?

>> No.49018403

>>49018230
3rd/4th out of currently 7 waves. How many do you think they will have by the end of this year? Gamers and they opened up auditions for the next wave(s) already

>> No.49018408

>>49018279
Fuck off nijinigger

>> No.49018430

>>49018103
The holo shitmerch (i.e. acrylics) probably have the same cuts. The difference is that they're also allowed to make custom, high quality merch with obviously better cuts. Someone post that image of niji's copypaste merch already.

>> No.49018462

So like
A indie selling 100 shirts is equal to niji getting 5k sales?

>> No.49018468

>>49018000
There is no “we”. Anons posted both the numbers and the method to verify said numbers (same for CCV), anyone can do it, there is no collective identity doing anything.
That’s the “there is no we” part.

The other part is: there is no way to prove beyond any shadow of doubt the 2% cut without getting your hands on the actual private documents by anycolor discriminating the revenue and the paid cut.
The second best thing in this case is one of the two parties in the arrangement leaking the nature of the deal. It is not definitive proof but lends a lot of credence to the claim.
In the absence of hard proof you have to weight the claim and make a judgement call.
I’m this case, based on what was already known, there is no reason to doubt the 2% number (actually, the 1-3%)

>> No.49018469

>>49018103
>no source
Yeah imagine think Aia can Survive with $54. Dramatuber watchers don't even have brain cell.

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>>49018430

>> No.49018482

>>49017599
Wasn't he a smash bros nigga? When did he start covering vtuber news

>> No.49018495

Is someone leaking info to False? If so, who is it?

>> No.49018497

>>49018080
Extremely rough guess, but I imagine SC is more than 1/3rd of their income. Pomu has said she has about 5k members which in theory is $8,000 take home a month, but some of those are gifts that can be variable and some in in meme currencies. I doubt any of the girls other than Selen has that many members. Luxiem probably all has 5k+.

>> No.49018499

G-guys, did you know Pekora said Roberu's name on stream? Why aren't we talking about that?

>> No.49018518

>>49018499
Niji deflection

>> No.49018546

>>49016203
Good lord no wonder that one Niji said to go to Hololive if you want to make money

>> No.49018554

>>49018271
Helps to explain why their financials seemed so strong compared to Cover's when most externally visible metrics show Cover as being more successful.

>> No.49018556

>>49018499
the family rrat is real. no one really cares

>> No.49018572

>>49018497
>I doubt any of the girls other than Selen has that many members
Enna unlocked all the emote slots and was bragging about it

>> No.49018575

>>49018398
NDF is gonna be busy for the next few days

>> No.49018587

>>49018495
he said multiple sources

>> No.49018589

>>49018318
>going against EN minecraft without minecraft
>and also Kaela is streaming a buff game
Oh jesus she might not even cripple tally.

>> No.49018594

>>49018472
lmao thank you anon

>> No.49018611

>>49018103
If my oshi was pulling that much and wanted me to buy the merch anyway I would.

>> No.49018624

>>49018403
gamers dont exist anymore anon its obviously cancelled

>> No.49018637

Fauna wants to play Skyrim geoguesser

>> No.49018651

>>49018103
Depends on the merch. For acrylic stands and crap? 2% is kind of shit but not the end of the world, I expect it to be about 5%. For Birthday merch that they go through the trouble to design and promote? Absolutely I'd be pissed. Especially when they outright said during their IPO interviews that talents get a big cut of merch.

>> No.49018655

>>49018371
Wasn’t the whole Zaion doc basically saying that Anycolor saw Zaion wasn’t all in on being a Niji and saw it as a threat?

>> No.49018691

Why is NDF trying to do damage control here? We have known FOR YEARS everything Kurosanji does and everything Zaion and False said, this was just a confirmation for all the people that refused to believe the truth
You are not going to change anyone's mind here, try somewhere else

>> No.49018694

>>49018495
Yugo, Zion and I would guess Rosemi. Bitch is a known backstabber

>> No.49018701

>>49018430
>The holo shitmerch (i.e. acrylics) probably have the same cuts
why?

>> No.49018703

>>49018495
It's holospy

>> No.49018723

>>49018468
The thing I am pointing out is that we already know all of these and he doesn't provide more info, while anons here, watching that vulture, claimed that 2% is definitive and act like it is beyond reasonable doubt that it is true. First point is that the fucker is just wasting our time with things we already know and the second point is that our resident posters are actually imbeciles for eating his words up.

Back to the point about holomerch - we had a way to check the figures to see whether it is true or not.

>> No.49018727

>>49018472
Should edit it to say 1-3% on the Niji side

>> No.49018730

I wonder if Roboco makes more than Kuzuha in the end.
I'd bet she does.

>> No.49018763

>>49018730
if you think merch is everything i guess

>> No.49018780

>>49018691
Cope. NijiJP doesn't exist. Only Nijien

>> No.49018792

>>49018495
It is the voices in anon's head.

>> No.49018814

>>49016600
I swear staying in this thread as shown me how vile and desperate holostars fans are bloody hell, they outright lie,invent strange cope or throw shade on the hologirls.

Tempus debuting has lit a fire in them and now they dont stop.How could a part of the holocommunity be this cancerous.

>> No.49018819

>nijisisters want false to reveal his sources so they can harass and dox them
Not so fast sisters.

>> No.49018830

>>49018462
Only if you believe a dramatuber with no proof

>> No.49018857

>>49018730
considering noone knows what and who kuzuha is outside of his own circle... she probably is

>> No.49018867

>No salary
>No debut budget
>2%
The blackest of companies holy SHIT

>> No.49018872

>>49018572
That was at her peak, and then she lost the slots. Lots of gifts that expired most likely.

>> No.49018876

>>49018691
I trust things that niji organs said including Zaion but False ain't shit. Get out of here with your 2%. I will stick with Mysta's 1%.

>> No.49018880

Sisters so desperate to protect the company that is fucking their guys raw, it’s funny.

>> No.49018902

Don't look at kronii and fauna's #'s right now

>> No.49018906

>BVTM cares more about Pekora saying Roberu's name over Niji getting just 2% cut on merch
Priorities man

>> No.49018916

>False talking about more niji dark dealings

>> No.49018919

>>49018876
Shouldn't you go for the info that is more generous than what mysta said? Lmao

>> No.49018920

Wouldn't it be better to run defense in the catalog instead of here? This pretty much just confirms what this thread already deduced.

>> No.49018944

>>49018830
Yeah, I should use the better source
https://twitter.com/Vamp_Kuzu/status/1130702535147188224?

>> No.49018946

>>49018872
nah she got them back, it was a big drama over her "losing her slots" and then she got dumped a shitload of gifts to get her emote slots back.
I think it was because one of her notorious chatters was dumping lots of ARS gifts, and when ARS was shut down her gifts stopped flowing.

>> No.49018959

why are Nijifags here asking for info.... shouldnt you be all over twitter and discord or maybe other threads.... you are not helping your case here

>> No.49018960

>>49018867
>No salary
Confirmed by Zaion.
>No debut budget
Confirmed by Zaion.
>2%
How does eating the feces coming from the anus of FalseEye feel like?

>> No.49018972

It sometimes seems like Cover is literally the good guy corpo. I know in the past they had yabs and stuff in the past but these days they seem like almost a charity compared to the rest of the industry

>> No.49018990

>>49018906
Just wait until the false uploads the video on YouTube

>> No.49019007

>>49018919
Primary source VS secondary source

>> No.49019011

So, ignoring the bait that'll appear due to this, did 5mm disown Nene or something? I haven't seen anything from her about Nene in a long time, amd I follow her on Twitter.

>> No.49019017

Yup, this is a terrible timeslot for Kronii. She needs her west coast and Korean viewers.

>> No.49019023

On the plus side for Kronii, she only has Ina to worry about and she'll probably get a funnel on Wednesday since Fauna is doing her 1AM ASMR

>> No.49019024
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49019024

oof

>> No.49019025

>>49018919
Because I don't believe things based on my convenience.

>> No.49019037

low numbers for EN today
not as low as fucking 2% tough LOL

>> No.49019077

>>49018944
ELON DELETE THIS

>> No.49019087

>>49018701
Because you're just making pieces of plastic with the default character image on them, for what reason would you give the talent say 25% or something? Kadokawa isn't giving Megumin's voice actress that much on every figure they sell, her contract is probably 1-5% royalties.

>> No.49019111

Imagine being one of the serious shitters in Nijisanji with like low 3view CCV.
They probably sell in the low four figures of merch and then get fucking 1-3%. Should just get a job at Home Depot.

>> No.49019118

>>49019023
most of kronii audience is at night
not sure what she is doing here, outside making faun nmbers lower.

>> No.49019120

>>49016271
>Any idea how much Cover takes from merch?
Its cant be that much if Holos can pay for constant covers, new outfits and 100k animations

>> No.49019121

>>49019024
Why would you overlap Fauna MC?

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niggersanjifags coping right now

>> No.49019139

>>49018920
Niji interns are convinced this is the most influential thread

>> No.49019150

>>49018902
Fauna's numbers are fine, her streams always grow steadily. Kronii's are shit though, good example of why you should never drastically change timeslots.

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>> No.49019174

>>49019111
Read what you wrote again and you should wonder why you believe this 2% shit.

>> No.49019178

>>49018880
for sisters, black company harassing their oshi is okay and tolerable as long as they beat the other company

>> No.49019198

>>49018920
yeah, they should also go after that guy that was a former editor and claimed he knew some shit to drag vshojo into the shitstorm

>> No.49019213
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>>49018730

>> No.49019215

i hate niji EN but i kinda feel bad because nijiJP doesn’t deserve the humiliation…

>> No.49019223

>>49019155
>Gura collab
I'm happy for her

>> No.49019230

>>49019155
>pikuniku
>that early
gura in japan already?

>> No.49019229

Homobeggars are worst then nijiniggers. There I said it. At least nijiniggers are openly holo-antis.

>> No.49019228

>>49018723
>while anons here, watching that vulture, claimed that 2% is definitive and act like it is beyond reasonable doubt that it is true.
Anon, you’re holding what’s arguably one the most retarded group of people gathered in the same place to the same standard of a court of law.
Here is the thing:
>nobody cares.
It could have been that retarded that showed up on Korekore claiming Matsuri and Coco were harassing him telepathically and through coded tweets and, if it was possible to use it to stick a stick in Nijisanji’s eyes, people would do it all the same.

The core of your argument is
>p-please only spread rrats that can be proven beyond any reasonable double
The answer to that will always be
>rrats machine goes brrrrrrr

>> No.49019242

>>49019155
>2 days off
Lazy.

>> No.49019257

>>49019087
2% is unacceptable, 5% would be the default. Megumin's Seiyu can work on other projects and make her 5% royalties on multiple characters

>> No.49019269

That 2% revelation, Nijifags? Karma for mocking the HoloJP COVID outbreak. Ain't it great?

>> No.49019270

>>49016271
We know it’s more than they get from supers and Mori reconfirmed the 50/50 split after youtubes cut a couple months back so over 25 times the Niji cut.

>> No.49019273

>>49018867
Is this the part time contract or full time contract?

>> No.49019276

>>49019174
So you people are both defending the practice, and saying it isn't happening at the same time.

>> No.49019282

>>49019174
Wasnt one of your organs posting on twitter that she cant pay her taxes?? You should have given her more SC, anon you disappoint us

>> No.49019280

>>49018920
this is markedly worse than I thought, personally.

>> No.49019289

>>49019118
Her absolutely almost non existent Euro audience is happy.

>> No.49019304

>kroni is playing the story
oh that explains

>> No.49019308

>>49018960
Except Mysta said the same thing (worse, in fact, since he said he got “like, 1%”), but anons were (reasonably, I suppose) trying to defend Niji with “He was probably exaggerating”, “That was just a figure of speech” and such.
Now there are two different sources saying similar things, the creditability naturally jump up.
(I didn’t know that Kuzuha might have said so as well, too?)

>> No.49019316

>>49019011
She's probably just busy. She just started a new serialization with Aka

>> No.49019327

>>49019011
She barely uses Twitter, the last bebe post she retweeted was the nendo announcement in March, and the last thing she liked was a marine tweet about a collab with her. She's probably been very busy with the akasaka manga

>> No.49019342

Faumei collab is gonna be on Mumei's channel.

>> No.49019346

>>49019178
>as long as they beat the other company
not happened since 2020 btw

>> No.49019352

>>49019024
Maybe... this is how she wants it?

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>>49019024

>> No.49019366
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>>49018902

>> No.49019367

TWO PERCENT
>TWO PERCENT
TWO PERCENT
>TWO PERCENT
TWO PERCENT
>TWO PERCENT
TWO PERCENT
>TWO PERCENT
TWO PERCENT
>TWO PERCENT
TWO PERCENT

>> No.49019381

>>49019230
>4am JST
anon...

>> No.49019393

>>49019155
>Gura collab
I thought she's in Japan?

>> No.49019424

>>49019289
the coping never ends. It's late night on a workday here

>> No.49019428

>>49019308
>Except Mysta said the same thing (worse, in fact, since he said he got “like, 1%”), but anons were (reasonably, I suppose) trying to defend Niji with “He was probably exaggerating”, “That was just a figure of speech” and such.
That is the thing. FalseEye got the same info that we have and ran with it. Anon here treated it like it was written in the bible.

>> No.49019435

>>49019213
using SC cope against a Holo girl.... kek

>> No.49019455

>>49019213
So 666k lifetime SC earnings after all the cuts, assuming Nijisanji gives the same cuts as Cover.
And Roboco has 151k. But she gets bigger cuts of merch (apparently).

>> No.49019465

>>49019393
She was in the Myth D&D the other day.

>> No.49019484

>>49019230
You think Gura’d stay up to 4AM to collab with Kiara it she is in Japan?

>> No.49019485

>>49019381
ah my bad read the one above

>> No.49019489

come on son, play the fucking fighting game. get those numbers.

>> No.49019493
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49019493

OH NO NO NO NO NO NIJIBROS!
>a competitor from the biggest North American talent agency is spreading rrats about us!
HOW DO YOU RESPOND?

>> No.49019509

>>49019350
That's about 2% of an average Pekora stream

>> No.49019512

>>49019424
I'm just saying what I saw in her split thread. People were arguing about the timeslot but the euros were happy

>> No.49019515

It's not 2%, because it's advertising the talents

>>49019234

>> No.49019522

>>49019242
>Lazy
please she's going to stream Zelda for like 9 hours each stream while working on her album.

>> No.49019523

>>49018944
DELETE DELETE DELETE

>> No.49019548

>>49019024
Well, she cares more about feeding the homos and her mod friends, I bet she doesn't mind if she is going even lower than that

>> No.49019562

>>49019515
>wear paying you in exposure

>> No.49019563

>>49019493
Ask him where Gundou is.

>> No.49019580

>>49019428
>FalseEye got the same info that we have and ran with it.
You don't know this. He could have easily gotten the info from any English speaking Niji liver

>> No.49019590

>>49019512
oh I'm sure they were, but she's not in the shitter because her timeslot

>> No.49019597

people don't go to nijisanji for money.
it's the brand name they want.
you fags won't understand.

>> No.49019602

>>49018944
There he's saying he's not getting a single cent, so it's worse then 1-3%. Maybe it will increase next year, hahaha...

>> No.49019612

>>49017384
>ad revenue
>when their viewers are SEA

>> No.49019627

>>49019597
can i pay rent with a brand name?

>> No.49019638 [DELETED] 

So every single Vtuber corpo just takes all the fucking merch money.
Like, wasn't that the arrangement for VOMS, Vshojo, and now apparently Nijisanji? And it's all coming to a head because people are finally making friends with Holos through the cracks in the walled garden and probably talking shop and realizing what a huge contract gulf there is

>> No.49019641

>>49019228
For me this is exactly as retarded as someone believing "Korekore claiming Matsuri and Coco were harassing him telepathically and through coded tweets".

I am not talking about spreading rrat right here. Spreading rrat always had no real evidence, but have some basis in reality. FalseEye is doing just that - spreading rrats. I am having problems with anon here spreading rrats but think it is as true as what we've got from Zaion's document. They cannot differentiate what is a rrat and what is real insider information.

>> No.49019651

>>49019515
KEK

>> No.49019667

>>49018944
>Goods seem to be supplied
Lmfao based king. He didn't even know he had merch kek

>> No.49019669
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49019669

So will the SF6 Open bring good numbers?

>> No.49019688

Nothingbuger.

>> No.49019704

>>49019590
im entirely sure it is becasue of the timeslot. PLaying a jap game at euro ultra late night when you are most a night time streamer for NA.

>> No.49019716

>>49019597
>people don't go to nijisanji for money.

PAGING THE NIJICOEP ANON!
>NEW COEP DROPPED!
<NEW COEP DROPPED!

>> No.49019732

>>49019393
Soon TM

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>>49016218
>aia

>> No.49019742

>>49019580
That is nice of it but he didn't say that. Do you think dramatuber like him would not be so excited to tell the viewers every 5 minutes if he really has some insiders from the organs themselves?

>> No.49019745

>>49019641
Why is it an issue now? It's kinda suspicious to care at just this moment

>> No.49019759

the only question I have Holochads-
Do we do anything or just sit in the corner in silence and again see Niji burn...??

>> No.49019765
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Does someone have the image for the new year stream that shows Hololive side reaching 200k while Holostars only getting 9k

>> No.49019766

>>49019515
>Exposure cope

>> No.49019769

>>49019638
vshojo's deal was they took all the merch cut but didn't take anything else
And no you retards keep saying this but the vshojo girls probably found out their contracts were shit from their twitch boyfriends.

>> No.49019799

>>49016218
that's like... holoid tier income. probably even worse

>> No.49019805

>>49019638
So that’s why Cover ok’d the collabs…
“Go ahead, but you have to accidentally leak our cuts”

>> No.49019814

>>49019563
Gitmo

>> No.49019824

>>49019742
trying to fit in as notNiji fan are we??

>> No.49019828

Most nijis are partimers, I guess

>> No.49019840

>>49019759
I'm chilling watching Fauna

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>>49018703

>> No.49019903

>>49019597
Can I buy food with brand name?

>> No.49019922
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49019922

imagine still defending kurosanji

>> No.49019936

>>49019742
He already said he got it from multiple sources and you don't really repeat stuff in videos

>> No.49019946

>>49019638
I think for VOMS, the guy had control over the character IPs an took a share for merch sales, while the talents got a free model and SC revenue. It's ran more like a glorified doujin/artist circle than a corpo structure iirc

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>>49019765

>> No.49019971

>>49019597
I just want the prestige of being Nijisanij liver #437 dropped in wave #47, the sixth this year! I want the clout of being yet another piece of meat for the 3view grinder

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>>49019704
I know it's bait but I just wanted to post it

>> No.49020023

>>49019638
.>We actually don't have any evidence for any of it. But if you think logically, Streamlabs and SCs are basically free moneys, but YT takes a huge cut from SCs compared to streamlabs. Voicepacks agurable need some work to produce so there is some incurring cost on it. But in the end it is digitally distributed so the cost to profit ratio is high. For merch though, because they are physical objects that are produced by third parties, the profit margin is already lower than the other 3 that I mentioned, so naturally the cut for talents would be the lowest for merch.

>> No.49020027

I hope NIjiID speak up after this, they got screwed a big time by niggersanji

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>>49019922

>> No.49020072

>>49019769
sponsors they hook the girls up with as well

>> No.49020083

>>49019745
>Why is it an issue now?
It is always an issue. If you cannot differentiate rrat from real information that is on you.

>> No.49020082

>>49019989
i still dont know how this shit is 90k views.
others 5k streams end up being 40-60k for that lenght

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>>49019954
Sankyuu

>> No.49020127

>>49020027
Remember NijiIN? I felt bad for those guys, as much as I hate their accent

>> No.49020134

>>49016171
Finally. Something to run in the catalog

>> No.49020147

>>49018103
I shit on Cover for far less, I would go nuclear for something like this.

>> No.49020157

>>49019946
With VOMS the guy took all merch money in exchange for them getting to keep their donation money. It was their justification for being able to call themselves "indie".

>> No.49020159

>>49019936
>multiple sources
So no sources then? I got from multiple sources that your are a bastard and your dad is not your biological dad doesn't mean it is true. At least when I say my source is one of your uncle that would be more believable.

>> No.49020183

>>49019641
>For me this is exactly as retarded as someone believing
There you go again. People here don’t believe the cut is 2% because some retard said. They do because of a lot of previous clues that it was the case.

What they have now is a third party saying the same.
>Spreading rrat always had no real evidence, but have some basis in reality.
>I am having problems with anon here spreading rrats
You’re either one of the biggest idealists seeing the goodness in the hearts of people battling a console wars or the biggest retard in this thread outranking even the “Mori loses money by selling a venue out” because there is no truthfulness requirement to spread rrats, and most of the times there is no basis in reality at all, just desire to spread chaos and malice.

>> No.49020187

>>49020127
Two of them are management in NijiEN anon..

>> No.49020197

>>49020127
>feeling sorry for Noor

>> No.49020205

I still would join though, I can pretend to be gay and play Genshin Impact and make low six figures just fine even if I could make 7 figures if I only was born a cute girl with a good personality who loves Minecraft.

>> No.49020251

>>49020183
falseEyed reads 4chan all the time, he could pick that up and call it a day

>> No.49020288

>>49020159
Why are you damage controlling here sis? You aren't changing anyone's mind. It's obvious he can't say who they are. That's all.

>> No.49020290

Calling BS on the whole 2% shit. There's just no possible way.

>> No.49020306

fauna like 1K behind her rpevious MC stream
even tough is only kroni overlapping her with 2k rather than ina 7k
maybe more sharing of viewership with council.

>> No.49020328

>>49019228
Let me write a better cope for you,hebcall the company as Colorful so it might not be Anycolor/Rainbow,We didn't heard any mentioning of Liver so it might other company.Is this good enough now?

>> No.49020350

>>49020127
The ones who got into management probably got paid more money than many of the newer NijiEN
Which comes from their merch and shit

>> No.49020351

>Fauna begging for another e-celeb interaction

why is she like this?

>> No.49020384

>>49020306
The IDs might have some viewers as well. They're usually not streaming at this time.

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>People where saying Kronii was going to "teach Fauna a lesson" today
So... any viable copes for the homo beggar faction?

>> No.49020420

>>49020027
They could be the sources. Most of them speak English

>> No.49020474

>>49020407
muh timeslot

>> No.49020477

>>49020351
What the fuck are you smoking

>> No.49020484

>>49020351
>nearing 1hr and just hitting 7k
probably to bump those number

>> No.49020498

>>49020083
The only time people get this defensive is when it's Nijisanji.

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IRyS getting more JP box exposure. Really important for the peak 3D showcase number

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>mfw mysta confirmed the 1% ages ago but it was so unbelievable everyone thought he was joking

>> No.49020560

>False knows the numbers for VSPO, Holo JP growing, HoloEN and NijiEN declining, NijiJP stagnating
Yeah 100% this faggot is here on this thread

>> No.49020568

>even False is saying where the fuck is EN3

>> No.49020594

>>49020183
>they have now is a third party saying the same
I am a fucking third party if I publish an article mentioning the 2% too.
>Mori loses money by selling a venue out
And you know how ridiculous it sounds right?

I have no idea why people fell for dramatuber's nonsense here so easily. Usually if something is true, it will have receipts. Korekore got exclusive dms from Rushia and showed as much as possible except for those that will get him in legal trouble. Other than that he always just get random tweets and randos from streets for his drama, which resulted in nothing of value except for high numbers for his channel. This time FalseEye didn't give us shit but some anon here ate it up. At this point I am kinda disappointed in the quality of the posters here.

>> No.49020611

>>49016144
why does Zeta, who is in HoloID and has about 8 less months in Hololive, has more subs than Fauna? What is this travesty?

>> No.49020660

>>49018103
Fuck no

>> No.49020663

>>49020568
literally everyone is saying where the fuck is EN3, except those who want to see holoEN fail

>> No.49020670

>>49018080
>I have seen posts saying that their superchat income is pretty close to their take-home pay.
You have seen complete delusions anon, what the fuck are you talking about?

>> No.49020672

>>49020568
Just wait nigger, its probably after EN concert

>> No.49020679

>>49020568
There will never be EN3. Cover is happy with the current 10 members and don't care about what they(Mori, Fauna, Kiara) or fans want.

>> No.49020693

>>49020498
I am pretty sure people ask for evidence if something happens. Did you really think fandead just took it in their asses when people spreading rrats about Rushia and mfmf?

>> No.49020710

>>49020611
Kobo coattails seems most likely for the ID3 sub growth, similar to Myth and Gura.

>> No.49020719
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49020719

>>49020328
No, 2% is catchy, numbers related and ties in with the previous Niji yabe, the Zaion thing. It also ties in with the other charge against Niji, the shitty cookie cutter low quality merch to which the usual cope was “people buy it to support the livers, not for the quality”

Think about it, it’s the perfect killshot
>have you heard, Niji livers only get a 2% cut on merch?
>no way, does that mean that those 40 bucks overpriced low quality acrylic plates only net the liver 8 buck and Niji pockets the rest!?
>yeah, they surely messed up by firing that chick that way. She deserved it but the way they did was mean and she did well by whistleblowing

It’s a three hit combo

>> No.49020772

>>49020568
There is no EN3. Anycolor took all of the remaining good talent in the west.

>> No.49020779

>>49020351
Jessie what the fuck are you talking about

>> No.49020780

>>49020594
Did you defend Niji this hard when we started talking about the stealth suspension? We already knew that Niji are greedy fucks, we don't need dramatubers to tell us that

>> No.49020794

>>49020719
>40 bucks overpriced low quality acrylic plates only net the liver 8 buck
.02*40 = .8
80 cents

>> No.49020840

>>49020328
>he call the company as Colorful
Did he really do that? Is he afraid?

>> No.49020839

>>49020780
>stealth suspension
Like what Holo has right now with "muh COVID" retard?

>> No.49020846

Idol Showdown is really making the rounds with the FGC. Could be the next poverty fighter king

>> No.49020863
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>>49020594
>I have no idea why people fell for dramatuber's nonsense here so easily
>anon here ate it up
Most didn’t. See >>49020719, they’ll just use it as a tool to stick to Nijisanji. Welcome to the console wars, 2020s version.

Don’t attribute to stupidity what can be explained as plain calculated malice

>> No.49020867

>>49020780
>the stealth suspension
I recall this thread predicting that all the weird short notice breaks were actually suspensions far before Zaion ever confirmed it

>> No.49020879

>some anons make more money than vtubers aka nijisanji

>> No.49020886

>>49020772
So you are saying that Cover took all of the remaining good talent in the west with Council?

>> No.49020891

>>49020772
>Good talent
Plus, most of Myth were barely streamers other than Ame, just because you're not known as a streamer or indie vtuber doesn't mean you can't make it in Hololive.

>> No.49020903

My favorite part of the 2% reveal is that the original nijicope when they got passed by hololive was that they made up for the money with merch sales

>> No.49020957

>>49020867
It got pretty obvious when Enna and Millie wanted to do a joke tweet together while Millie was on a sudden break and used her RM account for it.

>> No.49020967

What would any EN vtuber audition to NijiEN instead of Idol, Holo or Phase now?
>Management is shit and they are more important than the talents
>Luxiem gets all the shilling while the rest get crumbs
>2/3 of Lazulight, 2/3 of Obsydia, 3/4 of Ethyria and all the Iluna and Xsoleil are 3view or low 1k at most
>Shit merch deal
>Deluded fanbase because of so many members in such a little span of time

>> No.49021000

>>49020867
Exactly Holo has a 3 stealth suspension right now but no one willing to talk about it because Holoniggers are blind

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49021001

imagine joining the far less popular side branches in hololive still much better than joining the most prestigious branch in nijisanji

>> No.49021025

someone needs to update the Nijicope list

>> No.49021035

>>49020772
>Flopluna
>Flopsoleil
>Good talent
Lol

>> No.49021046

>>49020794
Wait, no way! All this time I was mentally assuming it was 20%, 80 cents over 40 bucks is unbelievably low!

Funnily enough, Nijis are going to be on the receiving side of one of their old tricks
>hey, did you know not all of your superchat money goes to the girls?
>YouTube takes 30% then COVER takes half

This used to be a common line for niji blokes to try to dissuade holo fans from
Superchat

>> No.49021061

>>49020967
>NijiEN instead of Idol, Holo or Phase now
>Idol
Probably a decent choice if you're a girl. Useless if you're a man.
>Holo
They aren't hiring and you can't get in even if they are.
>Phase
You'd make more in Niji, you're not gonna be Pippa 2.0

>> No.49021066

To find people for EN3, instead of sorting through thousands of submissions, what if they just asked their talents if they know anybody? Or if anybody they know knows anybody? Like I'm sure Fauna would know where to start looking for new girls.
Ask someone, they point you to 2 other people, ask those people, they point you to some more people....etc.

Before you know it, you have several dozen good applicants to choose from.

>> No.49021070

>>49020780
I didn't defend any of that shit. Initially it is a rrat so why not just go with it, and with Zaion confirming it I feel kinda sad for her first suspension. This vulture however provided nothing of value and if people eat up all his shit he will taste the money from it and will make even more fucked up claims and I don't want him to do that to hololive when something happens in the future. Never trust dramatuber. We already lost one to dramatubers. 3 if you count the niji side too.

>> No.49021075

Holo has 3 stealth suspension (COVID is not real) but no one talk about it WHY?

>> No.49021087

>>49020867
You don't need to predict everything. Gwelu saying he was going on vacation and then two months late anykara releasing a return notice saying he was actually suspended confirmed it. I don't know why they did it like that but shit's retarded.

>> No.49021100

>>49021000
What is this retarded cope?

>> No.49021110

>our company is doing shitty practices so yours must be doing the same thing too
LMAO

>> No.49021111

>>49019155
is she gonna be the first EN to stream TOTK?
I know Mumei is on saturday and Amelia mentioned streaming it

>> No.49021148

>>49021100
Do your reps. "COVID" is stealth suspension according to Sayu word

>> No.49021162

>>49020863
My problem is that people are using dramatuber to stick it to nijisanji. Anything goes except for that. I don't want to see the dramatubers getting big and fuck up the whole scene.

>> No.49021178

>>49021110
funny they said the same thing when all out war leaked

>> No.49021189
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>>49021066
>mfw they asked Mori and Kronii
NGMI

>> No.49021202

>>49021148
I didn't know Sayu was in Hololive, retard

>> No.49021212

>>49021110
Why do Holonigger pretend other wise ? ? Do you forget Haato and Pekora suspension in early 2021 ? ? Why memory hole ? ? ?

>> No.49021213

>>49021111
Probably, she jumps on new releases pretty quick if they interest her. She was the first to play Elden Ring too.

>> No.49021215

>>49021110
>Our livers are shit talking Holo in their discord so theirs must be as well
Sound familiar?

>> No.49021231

>>49018222
What is with their fucking collab obsession?

>> No.49021238

>>49021066
becasue the talent has no friends
the only one still with real firends are already vtubers (ame,fauna,bae) or have no interest (kroni,kiara, mori,ina)

>> No.49021253

>>49021000
>b-b-but holo did this!!!

>> No.49021262

>>49021189
Yeah? Milky is cute and the green haired Kronii indie friend is cool

>> No.49021274

>>49021202
Holo Niji same shit retard

>> No.49021277

>>49021100
niji trying the I'M RUBBER YOU'RE GLUE strat

>> No.49021287

>>49021231
They believe that the only reason "da boiz" aren't doing well is because Holo isn't spotlighting them by doing collabs.

>> No.49021297

All this merch cut talk makes me think about Gura's nendo since it was supposed to be her 1m wish.
If this was the case I can see her getting more % out of it which became a best seller.
Maybe this is the reason why Mori also want nendo for her 1m but cover/goodsmile didn't give her the same deal.
Honestly with Dino Gura last year and if Cover can manage to do the crocs for her birthday I can safely say Gura is a smarter than what people think.

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Why aren't you watching the saviour of your boys, sisters?

>> No.49021308
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I love YAGOO the terminal saviorfag

>> No.49021310
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DARKNESS
INHIBITING ME
ALL THAT I SEE

>> No.49021318

>>49020867
we knew that because zaion termination mentioned it, retard. only the most idiots, so most, didnt notice that nijien management mentioned it
millie was the most obvious example because she didnt tweet at all for weeks. If they are on break and tweeting? they arent suspended. its easy to see
>>49020967
Luxiem dont get all the shilling for ages anon. For more than 6 months its more divided from merch to voice pack illustrations to opportunities

>> No.49021317

>>49021110
they always say this but never have proof, remember the discord leak

>> No.49021332

>>49021212
That never happened, keep coping

>> No.49021343

>>49021253
Yes Holo and Niji same shit
Retard are you dens ? ? ? Same nidustry same counrey same fuckiong shit

>> No.49021382

>>49021310
>elira jrpg
>4view
incline.

>> No.49021383

>>49021262
What's the point if they're going to get "take it easy"-d anyway

>> No.49021388

>>49021274
Now THIS is a very retarded comment

>> No.49021399

>>49021332
Do your reps

>> No.49021402

>>49021343
actually seething so hard he's lost typing capability, lmao

>> No.49021404

I would love to see a leak for what holo gets. I dont think its as big as they say.

>> No.49021408
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>>49021110
a common deflection
when pic happened one of the most common retorts was that the holo girls must shit talking nijis too

>> No.49021425

>>49018222
>there's rules against mentioning them but some holos don't follow the rules
so there's no rules

>> No.49021423

>>49021162
>Anything goes except for that.
kek
>I don't want to see the dramatubers getting big and fuck up the whole scene.
They’re already “big”, as big they’ll ever get.

Remembers Wohoolad, the original “vtuber dramatuber” that latched like a tick on the Coco drama?
If not, that’s my exact point. People that live by drama ALWAYS ends up at the wrong side of one and disappears.

I’m rooting for False to go as strong against Nijis as he can, while at the same time rooting for Nijisanji to sue him and Mythic as well for harboring him, and Khyo as well for good measure.

>> No.49021442

>>49021297
For crocs I think Gura can make a better profit as it is just regular crocs slapping an image of Gura on there with a high markup.

>> No.49021447

>>49021404
We got Mio's pube shaving leak

>> No.49021448

>>49021298
>playing the isngleplayer
should have done online matches but she doesnt understan puyopuyo

>> No.49021455

>>49020351
Retard.

>> No.49021460

>Oh shit our image is crumbling what do
>Oh right let's paint the others the same shit
Top fucking kek
Literal children behavior

>> No.49021459

>>49021075
Nigga did you hear La+'s last video her throat is fucking gone

>> No.49021475

I really don't think the new Zelda will be a buff game

>> No.49021485

>>49021297
>since it was supposed to be her 1m wish.
Just some bullshit you read on /vt/ anon, she's never implied it
t.Chumbie

>> No.49021511

>>49021070
If you believe dramatubers lurk and get their info from here. Shouldn't you be defending Niji and Holi from every single rrat?

>> No.49021509

>>49021298
Why are you deflecting the fact that your nijinigger EN branch is dying? Why are you deflecting that fucking HoloID gets more viewers than 70% of NijiEN? Why are you not mentioning that these Kronii numbers are very close to your golden boys from Luxiem nowadays?

>> No.49021553

>>49021509
I'm shitting on both nijikeks and homobeggars, don't worry.

>> No.49021567

>>49021459
>retard dont know what kayfabe is
Just like u belive Hato not suspended RIGHT???

>> No.49021575

>>49021404
anon, funny thing is, even if Cover comes out saying they give only 2%, many of us would be happy its not more because that means they will be more lazy

>> No.49021578

>>49021511
falseEyed literally said on stream that NijiJP is stagnating, HoloEN and NijiEN are declining and Vspo and HoloJP are growing. He lurks this thread 100% and gets information from here including what i just said. this info isnt something you see outside of here

>> No.49021590

>>49021423
Oh definitely. I will call him a coward until he actually mention nijisanji and anycolor by name. But I disagree on you on how big you can get as a dramatuber. It actually depends on the fanbase. If the fanbase of the entire vtuber scene as a whole is dumb, then they can get big. The dumber the fanbase is, the bigger they can get.

>> No.49021610

>>49021509
>deflecting
NTA but hating on homos and their enablers doesn't mean they're a nijinig, beggar idiot

>> No.49021611

Sorry Fauna, 8k is for people who don't overlap their genmates

>> No.49021624

>>49018222
kek Some of these retarded faggots would be so lost without their precious unicorn bogeyman.

>> No.49021636

>>49021442
She can make a sandal in the approx same format but not Crocs, which is a registered trademark, and not too close to the design of the original, lest it happens the same of when Nokia were ripping off clothing companies.
It’s not as prestigious tho, it’s similar to making your own “Louise Vittan” handbag because you don’t have clout to get a LVHM deal

>> No.49021658

>>49021578
Holo JP stagnating and Niji JP growing
Only VSPO rising if anything

>> No.49021669

>>49021318
>we knew that because zaion termination mentioned it, retard
OK whatever, I meant that we knew they were doing it before it was ever officially confirmed.
I did some archive reps and it appears the NijiEN thread sussed it out before we ever did though. Someone was guessing that short-notice two week breaks were stealth suspensions back in December 2021.

>> No.49021685

>>49021511
He is lurking in this thread as we speak. That guy is creatively bankrupt and can't get new rrat of his own. Instead he just took whatever is in the thread and run with it.

>> No.49021711

>>49021669
Can you agree Holo has 3 stealth suspension right now? COVID is over and they get punished for no delivery

>> No.49021734

>>49021475
Might be for the first week or so, but after then it will probably crater yea.
But then again I thought the same would kinda happen with ER before release and that shit was buff pretty much for months.

>> No.49021739

>>49021636
What I mean is an official partnership with Crocs.

>> No.49021774

>>49021711
>COVID is over
That's like saying flu is over.

>> No.49021814

>>49021636
>It’s not as prestigious tho
Anon crocs are a meme

>> No.49021822

>>49021774
Right Holonigger is 3 stealth suspension happening now in Hololive but NO ONE is willing to talk about it

>> No.49021833

I wonder if Kronii will raid Fauna if she ends before her. Don't remember her ever using it.

>> No.49021838

Unless I'm mistaken, there's hololive talents that have made.....MILLIONS....off their merch. In fact for many of them the great majority of their income is from merch.
So for Nijisanji to not have those opportunities is really shocking. Riku takes 98% of the money. Couldn't he be satisfied with 85% or 90%? Why 98%?

>> No.49021850

>>49021475
is a zelda game, of course fucking not
it will be a buff for the first week only.

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>>49021553
>>49021610
Sure thing sisters, take a look at this and cry me a river

>> No.49021880

>>49021711
Can you kill yourself? You can't even come up with a reason why they'd be suspended, this isn't even a rrat

>> No.49021889

>>49021610
>nijikek underfire with 2%
>suddenly shitting on holos
nice try nijinig, we know when to shit on homos

>> No.49021890

>>49021590
>If the fanbase of the entire vtuber scene as a whole is dumb, then they can get big.
If the original “peace and love” no conflict no politics no drama Hololive fanbase gets swamped by this dumb audience you mention
>and the rest of the western vtuber audience, from indies to small corpos to NijiEN to EN homos already was
then it won’t be dramatubers killing Holo in the west.

>> No.49021901

Why no one wanna talk a bout Holo 3 stealth suspension?
>COVID
do u really believe???

>> No.49021910

did this nigga really expect people to believe him if he keeps repeating the same shit over and over again

>> No.49021919

NijiJP is growing so hard that their that the fastest growing liver only got 50k when she hosted a fucking POKEMON event in golden fucking week

>> No.49021931

>>49021822
This deflection tactic is pretty sad.

>> No.49021957

>>49021890
It will be, mark my words.

>> No.49021960

>>49021880
No stream quota fufilled they use "COVID" as excuse. Ayame Gura next.
You say Niji does this but Holo does it too retard

>> No.49021974

>>49021822
Do you have any proof to back your claim other than
>Blackjisanji is doing it so Holo must be doing it too!

>> No.49021989

>>49021838
>there's hololive talents that have made.....MILLIONS....off their merch
Not unless Cover takes less than 50% on merch, like 20% or something. We know Suisei/Pekora/Miko sold worth of 1-1.4 million but that's not counting production and cover cut. Some anon was peddling that Gura sold 1.8 mil for his birthday but frankly I never got whether he was bullshitting or just had access to some site bug (he kept posting other merch data too so idk)

>> No.49021990

>>49021838
Because it looks great on the revenue reports.

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suspension nigga lookin real desperate trying to deflect

>> No.49022019

>>49021974
Use logic and do your reps newfag

>> No.49022027

>>49021910
But seriously though, do you really believe? I personally believe it is milliemage instead.

>> No.49022052

>>49021298
>Why aren't you watching the saviour of your boys, sisters?
They don't even watch the homos. They'd rather spend their time acting like Holo antis while they homobeg elsewhere.

>> No.49022057

>>49021960
This desperate attempt to deflect is getting pretty sad

>> No.49022067

>>49021910
NDF is extremely active right now
>T-this is a nothing burger! Everyone knew they were only getting 1%! Why should they get more money for doing none of the work???

>> No.49022081

>>49021998
/hlg/ agrees it is stealth suspension retard you can take to them

>> No.49022086

>>49021874
are u retarded or do you seriously not consider that there could be people that dislike male-female collabing regardless of which company they're in

>> No.49022115

>>49022019
>No proof
Ogey

>> No.49022143

>>49022067
>no evidence
Yeah go swallow his excrement wholesale and fill up your stomach. You don't need to eat your next meal after this.

>> No.49022144 [DELETED] 

>>49022057
Cope harder Holonigger
Holo isnt any different from Niji and anyone who knows industry can tell u that

>> No.49022159

>>49021874
Seeing nijishitters struggling to be 4views brings me nothing but joy, I assure you. Same thing for the homos.

>> No.49022174

>>49022144
So true sis

>> No.49022197

>>49022115
Check /jp/ and 5ch retard
All agree it is stealth suspension because it is

>> No.49022224

>>49022081
>/hlg/ agrees
roru

>> No.49022235

NDF sisters your resources are better spent on the catalog.

>> No.49022249

wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, man the desperation is just hilarious

>> No.49022264 [DELETED] 

>>49022224
Yes you post there and aks and they agree it is stealth suspension

Get fucked Globalnigger

>> No.49022267

This nijinig is so desperate in painting others the same lmao
Go to sleep, intern

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>>49022144

>> No.49022281

Nigger doing this shit on cooldown, from 1 to 10 how desperate do you think he is

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>>49022197
>/jp/ and 5ch

>> No.49022294

>>49021399
Actual retard.

>> No.49022301

>>49021989
that only might be real on the custom merch the own girls are financing. if it comes fro mcover, their merch cut is much higher

>> No.49022304

>>49022081
Kill yourself dumbass

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>>49018103
>>49018229
>>49018371
based

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Spamming this thread won't raise that 2% anon, give it a rest already

>> No.49022331

>>49022286
People who insider to industey yes they know better than foreign pig who simp for trash whore

>> No.49022333

>>49017384
>talked about or leaked is ad rev stuff, as far as I know?
didn't Millie leaker her YT analytics page? Somebody has that screenshot? I can't recall what her ad revenue was, either 7k or 12k USD monthly? That's saying a lot considering most of her views comes from SEA. HoloEN would thwart that easily, significantly more views + majority comes for NA

>> No.49022348

>this desperation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3Ko2-guMvI

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>c-cover does it too

>> No.49022393

>>49022320
Sorry it is 1%. Mysta said so. CrookEyeD ain't shit with no proof.

>> No.49022392

No wonder Manjisanji always tops the SC chart. They have terrible merch cuts.

>> No.49022415

>>49022333
Pretty sure the analytics page is all youtube revenue, so it includes SC and Membership revenue.

>> No.49022433

Keep posting on cooldown nijinig, surely one day it will become true pfffthahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahah

>> No.49022461

>>49022197
rumao. Thanks for the laugh, retard.

>> No.49022470

>>49022331
Nice meltdown 2persister. Now fuck off.

>> No.49022472

>>49022392
that, and just fujos like to do a SC burst

>> No.49022488

>>49022331
Like a Vtuber that specializes in Drama and connections in the industry?

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>>49022197
>j-just check the /hlg/ they agree
Even ignoring that it could just be your dumbass posting there, seems like that's not the case

>>>43435241
>>>43432182
>>>43427631
Ctrl+F suspension and...nothing. Zilch. Nada.

Do you feel better now, having made me waste 2 minutes checking?

>> No.49022499

why do I feel a CP is coming.... he is getting clowned on, at some point he is going to break

>> No.49022498

>>49016737 (me)
After-the-fact posts like >>39317506 suggest the Mysta 1% quote was from his 1m sub video
I scraped youtube live chat for both of mysta's 1m sub videos (of course there's two) for about 220k chat messages but nothing came up for keywords like
>1% merch cut
which would surely get some reaction even as a joke. There are some hits for "1%" but it's referring to some 1% salt shit idk what they were talking about
All that to say, I can't find a timestamp sadly and only a schizo could grudge watch this guy for 9 hours. Hopefully someone has it saved somewhere

>> No.49022520

What turned one person to be this desperate?

>> No.49022525

>>49022331
>ESL
Hi, Nijisis.

>> No.49022530

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Gawr-Gura-Plush-Doll-Toys-Anime-Hololive-VTuber-Shark-Girl-Dino-Gura-Apexs-Predator-Figure-Cosplay-Clothing-Pillow-Plush-Gift-Toy/3060070603
the fuck

>> No.49022547

>>49022415
True, it was already discussed back then whe the leak happened. But seeing the CPM from SEA countries vs. NA last thread, no way in hell Millie's 100k views would be comparable to Fauna's 100k

>> No.49022550

ALL OUT WAR AMIRITE?

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Me

>> No.49022570

>>49019011
Blame Aka

>> No.49022608

>>49022498
That is the thing. This thing has no real basis on. He is just running the rrats we passed around here. Funny to see how people eating them up.

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No one cares about your fake dramatubers leaks. Look at this shit, this is a bigger deal

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>Hololive winning without doing anything, again

>> No.49022637

>>49022530
im sure some one posted a bae bag on twitter from wlamart
dont know if those are even legal

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>>49022550

>> No.49022643

>>49022331
The ESL is off the fucking charts.

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>>49022618

>> No.49022655

>Fauna talking about Barbie movie
You just know she was watching Bettel and chatted with Bae about it

>> No.49022660

jesas christ, so Cover is the paradise, the garden of Eden of vtubing even more than we thought...

>> No.49022704

>>49022530
report to Cover.

>> No.49022712

>>49022617
>ID slut gets a homo in chat
woah what a big deal
IDs were HOMOED.com, each and every last one. Even the ones that barely interacted with them participated in some homo group collabs.

>> No.49022718

>>49022617
they are so cute bros....

>> No.49022719

>>49022608
You don't know that. I bet some NijiID would share some details with him or maybe that NijiKR liver that got stealth graduated

>> No.49022724

>>49022655
She literally had a whole ass conversation that led up to her mentioning the Barbie movie based on her childhood and you decided to make this retarded post.

>> No.49022728

>>49022641
>words words words
>both sides are nijis
fitting

>>49022655
remember that gosling is ken

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